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TSA Out. ICE In. | Episode 33 · Propaganda

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for tuning in.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: You're listening to another episode of Propaganda with Mick and Jacob.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the show.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: If you didn't think airports could get any worse, you were, of course, wrong because they can always get worse, apparently.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: There's a partial government shutdown, and TSA is affected by that.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: They're under the Department of Homeland Security.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: So since TSA falls under this department, they're considered essential workers and they have to work even though they're not getting paid.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: You can imagine people aren't very happy about that.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't be.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: So TSA workers are not showing up for the job, they're quitting, they're calling out, and there is a shortage of TSA workers.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, if I was them, I'd call out too.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: But because the call-out rates have literally skyrocketed across the U.S.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: airports, there are lines that are lasting.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're talking hours upon hours.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: People are getting there eight hours before their flight, like your dad told you to, and they're still not making it through security.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: They're missing their flights.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: Security's down.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: There's checkpoint closures.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: There's reports saying that the lines are reaching parking lots.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: Parking lots.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's insane.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then if they missed their flight, they have to get a new one, and it's another three three-day delay.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: So the airports are an absolute mess.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: There are, I mean, there's videos of it's just, it's like, it looks like there's a concert.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's there's thousands of people crammed in there trying to get their baggage through.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's a nightmare.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's already a nightmare, and then add on a shortage of TSA employees.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even want to imagine.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: But to compensate for this, ICE was called in for backup and to help their TSA brothers and sisters.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Because ICE budget's budget, I guess, was already approved and they're ready for the bigger.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: They had a previous budget approval.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: And also ICE isn't doing anything because they told them to stop uh making deportations and arrests.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, I'm like all day every day, apparently.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: What do you mean they had don't what do you mean we have ICE agents free to just go to the airports?
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: I thought they were busy deporting the illegals.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: We're not supporting anyone anymore, so they're open eight hours a day, they got their shifts.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: They're open to go to the airports, guys.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: But when word got out that ICE would be at the airports filling in for TSA.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: Something shocking happened.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: The lines vanished.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: There's no more lines anymore.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: Weird.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: Why would why would that be, Jacob?
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: I guess everyone in this country is illegal.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: It surprises, it surprised me too.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_02: But like ice shows up and the lines are gone.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: The people are gone.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's still there's still plenty of people flying.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_02: There's still airport lines.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: The normal, yeah.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, you know.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_02: For some reason, there's this like mass gathering of people.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone wants a flight, everyone needs a flight, and then they hear ice is showing up, and everyone stops going to the airport.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: How is that?
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: Can illegals fly on the planes?
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: I thought they couldn't.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: God, I don't know.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: You can though, because you're in the country.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_02: You got here.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_02: You got here, so you should be able to fly, right?
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: Ice shows up and all the people start leaving.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_02: Makes you question how many illegal immigrants, how many illegal aliens are in the country?
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's a disgusting amount.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the estimates for Biden when he was president is like 15 million.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's like 10 to 20, somewhere around there.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: Way over that.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: Way over that.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: How many do we have before that?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_02: How many are gataways in Trump's first administration, and then in Obama's, and then Bush's, and then way back for when uh Reagan gave everyone mass amnesty, and after that, when they opened, opened the borders and let a lot more people come in here unchecked.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, what else?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: What else is happening?
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_02: How many illegals are in the country?
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: And that's assuming Biden's numbers were right.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: True.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's assuming that they know like weren't like Fudged down a little bit.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's either that or people have been that people have been that brainwashed and they're that scared of ice.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they think it's a few.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: They think that if they're brown, they're gonna get exactly light or something.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: And be I've heard people say that.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: They genuinely, they're an American citizen, fully.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: They're fully fine.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: And they'll be like, oh no, they're gonna get me on the streets.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, are you legal?
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: Then you're fine.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: So it's either people are that brainwashed where they think, oh no, ICE is there.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna, I'm gonna be the next Renee Good because of my skin color.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: Or there are that many illegals here where they're causing our airports to back up that much.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then, yeah, of course, when they hear federal law enforcement will be there, okay.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: Look at that.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: The problem solved.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: And what's funny is it's in these large cities.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that's where airports are, obviously.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_02: But it's in these large cities, it's in these immigration havens, these cities that are welcoming to everyone.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, a lot of them are international airports too.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: And everyone stops showing up, apparently.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, yeah, you take a city in a state, in a place, in a country that has a lot of illegals and lets them live there and lets them whatever get away with everything, and then they go to the airport to get their flight, they find out ice is there, and no one shows up anymore.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: So kind of a win-win in my book.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I know now's the time to fly when ice is there.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: But I I've heard some airports are better than others.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's been different delays.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, it's just it all stems from the partial government shutdown and DHS not getting their their funding.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'd rather have ICE back out on the streets arresting and deporting these illegal citizens.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, sorry, whoa.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: Illegal citizens.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_02: They got you.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: They got me.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: And if you disagree with that, I mean, I'm sorry.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sorry, but I'm sorry for you.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's a that's a privileged take to think that we don't need ice.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: That means that you don't need it, that you don't face the consequences of not having that kind of protection.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because we do need that protection.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely we do.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: And if you don't think so, you're privileged.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: That is a very privileged take.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: Recently, just over the last weekend, a Chicago college student was shot and killed by an illegal alien.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what ICE should be out on the streets doing, not at airports clearing lines.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: And this is Chicago.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're not talking down by the border, we're not talking Arizona, New Mexico, California.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking Chicago.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: That is up north.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_01: So this 25-year-old, 25, first of all, that's young, okay?
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're not talking some 45-year-old creep.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: He's 25.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: Jose Medina.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: He's Venezuelan.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: And he was arrested last weekend after allegedly killing Sheridan Gorman.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: And she was 18.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: She was a freshman at Leola University in Chicago.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: She had her whole life ahead of her.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: And he had a previous criminal record, shoplifting.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: And he had actually come here under the Biden administration, of course.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: No surprise there, right?
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, Gorman, she was out with a group of friends at 1 a.m.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: on a weekend night, right?
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: Totally normal for college.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: You're a freshman, you're doing your thing.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: And they were out um by Toby Prince Beach.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: And this group of friends, while they were walking and hanging out, they were ambushed by this illegal alien.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was reported he was wearing a mask.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: And when they tried to run away, he shot at them and he ended up shooting Gorman in the head, and she died at the scene.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: The friends say that it didn't seem like it was an attack, like a, like a it didn't seem like a targeted assault.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like he wasn't there waiting for them in particular, but it seemed like they were just kind of in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it was unfortunate that he saw them and no, it sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: He shouldn't have been here.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: As always, oh, another example.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: Someone who shouldn't be here did something they shouldn't have done, and now people that are living here, people that have their lives ahead of them, people that are most likely good taxpaying Americans that are going to college, pursuing their degree, getting a good education, whatever you want to say, those people are the ones that are getting screwed over.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: Those people are the ones hurting.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: Those people are the ones that need ice.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: They need ice there.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: We need ice in Chicago, in LA, in Austin.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: We need them in these big cities, in Minneapolis.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: So people like Sheridan Gorman uh might have a second chance at life, might have the right that they have to live out their life as an American citizen.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: Go to college and have fun.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: So, of course, a third-world illegal alien who shouldn't be here in the first place brought with him his crime-ridden cultural problems from a hellhole of a country, brought them to here, to our country, to America, and he just thinks everything's fine and dandy, it's gonna go the exact same way as where he was.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's what he's used to.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't understand America, he doesn't understand our laws, probably doesn't speak English, he doesn't look like you and I, he doesn't act like you and I.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_02: But he thinks he has the right, the obligation, the ability, the freedom to go around Chicago at one in the morning shooting random groups of young college kids that he comes across.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: Is he sick?
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: Is he messed up?
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: Is he just a bad person?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: Who knows?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't matter, I don't care.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_02: He shouldn't have been here, he needs to go home.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: Him and everyone like him.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: Anyone that's here illegally.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: And it sounds so stupid to say.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds like, oh, like they're yeah, they shouldn't be here, they're illegal, but it's not.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: The amount of people that would have this guy's back, the amount of people that would set up blockades in the street of Minneapolis to protect a man like this, you would be shocked.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_02: We saw it.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: We saw it in January, we saw it in February.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know what people are saying?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: They were they were saying What's she doing out at one in the morning?
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: What's she doing out at one in the morning?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, of course, you're walking in Chicago at night.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Of course that's gonna happen.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: That shouldn't happen at any time during any hour of the day.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: I thought we weren't allowed to say that about victims.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: Chicago has a lot of crime problems in and of themselves.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: We don't need to add on third world pieces of trash that don't know what they're doing and don't have any respect for us or our culture or our people here.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_02: We don't need them running around too.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: Chicago's got enough problems.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: We don't need to add in another ingredient.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's disgusting.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy that that happens.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_02: And hey, the the media doesn't cover it.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: This is this is I've heard this for a few different outlets from a few like small, smaller accounts, but this is not some mass media blitz about this poor girl that was shot down in her prime.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Renee Good was everywhere.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: You could not get away from that name.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, I didn't even hear about Sheridan Gorman.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: I had a I was I had to really dig for this information and for these articles.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's buried by everything else.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: And this poor girl, her family, they sent her to college in Chicago.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: Chicago's danger, but like you said, we shouldn't be adding on to it.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: But she's just she's 18.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_01: She's finally getting to experience, experience college life, have fun, do her thing.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: She literally has the rest of her life ahead of her.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: And it is cut short for no reason whatsoever.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: No reason.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't even targeted.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like it wasn't even some creep that was trying to attack her.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a random act of violence.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: It was just random, it's just, what do you mean?
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: You can't be letting people in this country that just think it's okay to carry around a gun and shoot up people because I don't know, they they surprised him, they he wasn't expecting them.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's his answer.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: He felt threatened, he felt entitled to, yeah.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, these poor parents, and then to hear everyone say, well, that's what happens when you watch Chicago at 1 a.m.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's what happens.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what's interesting here is um whenever someone dies, there's a problem, right?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: And the left-wing narrative, there's no problem with them pointing that out.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_02: When someone dies, it's racism, it's homophobia, it's gun violence, it's Republican right-wing extremism.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_02: There's always there's always a root cause.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what's the cause of her death?
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: Is it gun violence?
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_02: Is it because it was a gun?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Would he have stabbed her like they do in other countries?
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: Is it because he's illegal?
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: Is it because he's Venezuelan?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: What's the cause of of of this this mystery murder here?
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: Something went wrong.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: Is it the fact that he's illegal and shouldn't be here in the first place and was allowed in and committed a crime and they knew about it and still let him stay?
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: She didn't just die.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: She didn't just go out one night and then that's it.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: No, something happened here.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: What happened?
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: What are they gonna say?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: They don't even want to talk about it in the first place.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like she wasn't involved in drugs or cartel or you know what I mean?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like she's literally she's literally just a college student, just a girl doing her thing.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's what hits so hard too, because that's around our age.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: We were college students, and I can't fathom that.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: Not not really doing anything wrong.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: You could say that, yeah, walking around at 1 a.m.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: in the morning in Chicago isn't the smartest move, but she shouldn't have to fear being attacked by a person that shouldn't have been there in the first place.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_02: The reason for her death is unchecked illegal immigration, mass open border policies under Biden administration, failure to deport them under Trump's administration, and now she, her college, her her friends, the people of Chicago, the people of this country, we are stuck with it.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: We have to live with the consequences.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: We have to deal with people like Jose Medina the rest of our lives because they're here.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_02: And apparently we're not supporting them, so get used to it.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: But really, I do if you hear that story, I really do want you to check yourself.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: And if you think, well, but no, no, no, no.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: They need to get out, and you're privileged and you're narcissistic for thinking that because you don't experience that problem, there isn't the problem.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, did you see this?
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: Did you oh my gosh, did you see the robot at the White House Summit?
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_02: No, I have not.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my Lord have mercy on us.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're done for.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: If it's not the illegals that kill us, it'll be the robots.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: So Melania whoa, Melania Trump, she was joined by a humanoid robot at the White House summit, and this is where she addressed AI and education to 45 other uh female world leaders.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: There's 45 other female world leaders.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: And what about it?
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Are they like are they like the leaders of that country, or they're like second ladies, like that's a good point.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, some like other position.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure it's a mix.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good question.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: We should we should see how many are actually like like you know, like the president position, the prime minister position, the chancellor position, you know.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder, yeah.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good question.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: World leaders.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: So we got a little female pow wow, and then we're joined by this robot.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: And the topic of this summit was like the potential benefits of AI and new tech in the lives of the young people and how it can help us.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: And they even touched on like AI home educators, like these robots being home educators and helping out in the home.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's weird, it's crazy, it's weird.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: Our public school is so bad that we have to send AI robots to your home and teach your kids because they'll give you better education.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: So are you homeschooled then?
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Is that just like robots being like homeschooling your kids?
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what's the point?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_02: They just stay at home, yeah.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: But it's crazy because this robot it addresses the world leaders, it addresses the room, and it's talking to everybody, and it's speaking, and it's walking, and it's it's waving, and it's like, and they're just like treating it like it's this normal thing.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh yeah, hey, cool.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: It just blows my mind that we're at that point where a humanoid robot is joining this important conference of these world leaders, normal, and it's trying to be pushed on us as this new cool AI emerging tech that we gotta accept and we gotta promote and pour billions of dollars into.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's a little freaky.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how I feel about it.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: So they meet at the summit to address AI and what does that mean?
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're just gonna say it's good, or are they gonna say, like, oh, these are the potential threats and dangers and negative consequences of having AI involved in everything?
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, what does that mean?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: I would hope.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: I would I would think that that would be part of it, but I think having the robot there was to show, hey, hey, look at how far it's advanced and look at how well a human robot is.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: It can teach your kids.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, it has it has sensors, so it can like recognize faces and it addresses you by your name.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, it's like, wow, wow, okay.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's impressive.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's great.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: But then what's really funny is that everyone's comparing this robot's walk.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: So we see it walk out into the room, and everyone's like, oh, that looks really familiar.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: We've seen this, we've seen this walk before, and everyone's comparing it to Joe Biden.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: And if you watch the video side by side, if you watch this robot walk and you watch Joe Biden walk, I mean it's identical.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it's I'm not saying he's a robot, but allegedly.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: All right, yeah.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: But it is funny.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen that video where they're like, it's like walking straight and like stumbling kind of, and it's like lined up next to him.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's the exact same.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's so, it's so funny.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, because we said this, we're like Joe Biden, he doesn't walk elderly.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: He's not like you know how your grandpa walks, you know how your grandma walks.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: It like he's not this elderly, slow, like leaned over, like he's like up straight and like awkwardly.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's like awkward and stiff.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so everyone's like, okay, what's why is it like what?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Who taught who?
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_02: Did the robot get his like programming from Joe Biden's walking, or the other way?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: Or did Joe Biden forget how to walk and that's them teaching him how to walk again?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: I did see that video though.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: We should we should put in a clip.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's pretty funny.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like it's a little uncanny.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, okay, like it's a little too real to be funny.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, you're like, wait.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember the clip of Joe Biden falling off the bike?
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's it is sad to see an old man get hurt, like it is, but it's also like he just like leans off it and falls.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: It looks like a robot that was riding a bike, and then immediately like everything stops working and it just falls flat on the side.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: He lets it happen.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy to me.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Or yeah, have you seen the videos of those little humanoid robots and they're like playing ball and it gets mad at the other person that takes the ball?
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it goes up to it and hits it.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: And everyone's like, pause.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: So the robot can feel anger.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: The robot can feel like wronged or and then it reacts in violence.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, my point is like it falls afterwards, and then it just it also kind of looks like Joe falling off the bike.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, who programmed who, who knows, but it is really interesting and kind of not funny because it's too real, it's too close.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that these robots are a good thing?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: What do you mean by these robots?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: The the humanoids, I I you know, are these like I'm not I'm not 1000% against AI.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's something that we should shun and never use.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: But I also don't think that we should be creating uh this artificial intelligence in the form of a human.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of CEOs and leaders of like AI companies, they've even like admitted and spoke out to like, hey, we should probably like chill out a little bit or put some regulation or you know, slow it down, figure out what we're working with.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: They also don't stop.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: They're the same people that say that, but then they don't stop doing what they're doing.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, you should probably like put AI in check and put some regulations on it, see what's happening before we get too advanced.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I'm not saying like they're gonna take over, but it's very quickly taking over every part of our lives.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's like I mean, driving, schooling, like any form of educational content, our our medias, the bots, that all the comments and videos and ads and movies and you know, every anything animated, like it's very quickly becoming a part of life in every aspect of our lives.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: So it is like, well, what's going on here?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: What are what are its uses for?
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: What should we not let it be used for, you know?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's the conversation that needs to be had.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I don't think it's happened.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: What should we not be using AI for?
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: And what should these humanoid robots not be used for?
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we talked about um we talked about that robot Neo a couple months ago.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you want a robot in your house, like making you coffee or doing the dishes, that's fine.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: If you want a robot in your house that's being controlled by some Indian guy overseas, like with a camera on the robot marching around your house to fold laundry, that's like that's a weird.
• 21:41
  unknown: Yeah.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's weird.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's a little extra.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, when when Teslas first came out, everyone was like, self-driving.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: What like that's are you kidding me?
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like automatic automatic.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: And now it's like every modern car has like stop stop assist braking, they have lane.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Departure warnings, they have automatic lane, like you know, a lot of them can follow the curves of the roads and the highways, if not full self-driving, like a lot of the electric cars.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: You have Way modes riding around cities, driving everyone by themselves, not a driver in the car.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: It runs totally fine for the most part, you know.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas 10 years ago that was shocking, now it's normal, you know.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: So you have like small advances in technology, they just like they move like people's expectations.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like so.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think AI will do the same thing, and it already is doing the same thing.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: But you need to be careful and I think talk about and figure out what you can do, you know, to prevent negative consequences that AI will bring.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I but I also think the robots are a completely different story.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like the self-driving cars, whatever, you know, it's but it's like it's already a task that's been simplified and taken human use out of.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like driving was already a thing, you know what I mean?
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it just kind of simplified it.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: But now I feel like having this AI put into the image of a human.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, but it's the same argument, is driving is already a thing now, it's simplified.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, teaching was already a thing.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: Why can't we send robots to your home and teach you?
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: No, I know, I know, I know you're saying that.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: It just feels weird to me because we're almost like playing creator, we're almost playing God because now we're creating something in our image, and we're trying to be the above.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it just feels a little funky.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it it is something, it is something weird that it it is a human with human physical attributes.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like it has hands, it has feet, it runs, it'll it'll have it laugh and tell a joke to you.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it becomes your friend.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: So okay, it's the same thing that with Neo.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like the problem I have is like, okay, you're gonna pay a guy in India slave wages to fold laundry in your home.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like they literally said that Neo, especially at the launch, is gonna be like human-assisted, human-controlled, human-steered.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: Until Neo can learn itself.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: That might be a while, but it's like you're gonna pay some overseas third world person pennies on the dollar as like payment, as wages, as salary, to fold your laundry and do your dishes.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's I thought we didn't like that.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like that's crazy.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was wrong.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: So that's like a another another problem you could talk about as well.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: But we're just gonna get into really deep waters really quickly, and the law's gonna take a long time to catch up.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: And there's just gonna be so many issues because now these are like, do they have rights?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: Think of all people are gonna want them to have rights.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Think of all the internet and regulations and rules and restrictions and laws that took forever to catch up to where things were.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's like it's like now this is AI and this is even crazier of a leap.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, right.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: But it's just it's it is a huge leap.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: It is a crazy leap into technology.
• 25:12
  unknown: Yeah.
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