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Stop Blaming Feminism! Blame Men Instead! | Rantzerker 197 · Honey Badger Radio

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Coming to you live from deep within a Borki radioactive lace land. We are
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the survivors of the alt right bork Apocalypse. The few, the brave,
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the bitchy, once more waiting into battle against the lobster zombie hordes. Will
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stop blaming feminism, play with the dog instead, ran Zerker number one nine
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seven. I don't know, can you guys hear him bark? Just I
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just heard the last one? Okay, very quietly. So in lieu of
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Jojo Cam, we have Scipio caam. Skipio's a little feistier, though we
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don't have Kevin Cam because she would probably knock over the cam. Yeah and
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uh and then she'd get into trouble. But hopefully, well my attention is
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averted, she will sneak into the kitchen and eat food off the counter.
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Up turn look, see the job. Okay, why do you have the
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good dog? I spent a lot of time teaching him stuff. See every
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day I spend a lot of time teaching mine stuff. All she learns is
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how to thwart me right like it's it's like you're not allowed in the kitchen.
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So now she knows that if my back is turned for ten seconds,
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right, she can get in there, and she'll go in there quietly,
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no toenails clacking or nothing right. And then I come come into the living
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room after making the bed and she's not there, and I'm like, gosh,
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she's in the kitchen. And then she's like, what, I wouldn't
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do nothing? Well, she's licking her chops. Look. Yeah, well,
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I mean this one had to be trained, otherwise he'd be a menace,
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more of a menace. Okay, so let's get into it before we
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get two sides tripped with the dogg Os. I do have to unfortunately,
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I do have to babysit him because Jonathan is fixing some stuff up at the
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instruct my dog to shut his horrormouth. All right, Okay, let's see
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what happens. So I got a couple of super child wild we were like
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you know, when we were not live, so I thought I would read
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those First, that's good, just because we did get the super childs and
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I should read them. Brian is on the ball, huh on it is
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on it? Yeah, whatever it is. Somebody's got like a monkey on
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a cupcake, all right, So I don't even know. I want to
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know what that means. So I got to super chowdschmho, so chim ho.
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I guess I'm just gonna pronounce it that way. I don't know if
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that was what the intention is, gives us five dollars through superchowd, Thank
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you, chim ho, and says annoyed about the amount of time given to
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a troll, and then puts in parentheses Sergio on Christmas stream, I skipped
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a lot of it. Can he prove his premise or even demonstrate it?
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It is a weird premise at that all men need to become experts at manipulating
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women. Can he demonstrate it without using anecdotes or exception into the rule?
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The guy is poison? Thank you for that? Well, you know,
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I think it was. It was constructive insofar as people got to see that
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this kind of like ten year old blue pilled sentiment still exists amongst people that
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would consider themselves, uh, you know, red pilled or whatever. So
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I thought it was useful for that, But thank you, chim Ho.
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I know, you know, the thing is is like sometimes you're just gonna
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have to deal with people that you don't agree with, and I'm okay with
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that. I think that you know, the best thing to do is let
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them talk, so so you hear what they believe and then you're just like,
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okay, Like that's what I did. I was like, oh,
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I've heard all this before, years and years and years and years ago,
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you know, so I may well and I think I think really like every
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every single ideology right has some explanatory value, right. Yeah. So it's
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like, you know, there there are some things that men can learn from
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pick up artists and stuff like that, and some things that men and women
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can learn from traditionalism, and you know, but you have to acknowledge that
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there are certain things about you know, sort of the more modern ways of
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looking at things that actually are explanatory. You know that this is the way
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things are because of this, right. And so I mean like you're looking
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at a situation where you know the whole conversation is multifaceted, and that that's
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a healthy thing, and then you pick the things that are true out of
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each person, right, and and then you put something coherent together. That's
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what I did. That's how I came to this. I listen to like
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everyone, No, I agree, I mean, I agree, I don't
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want to get to because that's like a separate discussion. But my problem ultimately
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is not that they're because I acknowledge that there are there are, like you
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said, useful like lessons or talking points from all of all over the spectrum.
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The issue comes when you know people want to ignore the fact that the
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largest obstacles are not you know, social or well, they're ultimately they're legal
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and political. That's where you know, ultimately it doesn't matter how much game
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you have if she can just accuse you of rape and take all your money,
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you know whatever, destroy your life. Basically none, none of it
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matters. And you can't be like, well, if you read all the
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evo psych books and know all the keyboard shortcuts, then you can win.
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Like that doesn't it doesn't matter, dude, Like yeah, yeah, no,
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not modern women especially Yeah, I mean it might work with someone who's
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middle aged, but yeah, or or forty or whatever, right, but
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yeah, you know, to fix a broken marriage or a marriage his part.
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But yes, but it's not it's not going to work with these out
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of control young women. It's just not mm hmm. All right, Well,
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anyway, thank you for the super Child. I'm gonna read the next
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one. Uh oh no, not The Stairs from Men gives us five dollars
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and says there was a screenshot from some video of a gym thought who admitted
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that she spent hundreds of dollars on a cute gym outfit to attract a boyfriend,
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only for her to utterly fail after going to the gym for six months
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just to walk on the treadmill for thirty minutes at a time. Well,
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she got something out of it. Uh No approaches from any men. I
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don't know if the story is true or not, but I hope this story
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was at least funny or for whoever reads this super Child. I mean,
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I think it's she's got exercise, So, yeah, she got exercise out
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of it. And also, I mean, this is the climate that you
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know, we've created, Like why would guys approach women at the gym?
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Yeah, when every single woman out there on Instagram or whatever is filming guys
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watching them at the gym and going and posting it online and like saying,
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you what a creep, right, like he's sexually harassing me, And this
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is not okay exactly. Yeah, No, nobody's gonna approach you. Nobody's
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even gonna like you try and bench something and you you it lands on your
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chest, like men aren't even going to get up and help you mm hmm
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anymore because they're worried. Right. When I watched this video of this,
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he was like I think he was Korean or something. He was a mixed
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martial arts guy fighter and he he when he won, the ring girl comes
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up to him and he puts his gloved hand on her waist, right like
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I do when when I take selfies with people, like everybody does, right,
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you just put your hand around the person's waist. And he's like cheering
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himself on and stuff. Nothing intended, right and h and he almost lost
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his career and he was just Lamb based. He was accused of sexual harassment
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and Lamb based it in the papers and and in the media. And so
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now when he avoids the ring girls and he and they come at they come
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towards him when he wins and he runs away, and they think it's the
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ring. Girls think it's funny. Yeah, and I'm like, oh it's
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funny, is it. Yeah, Like that's like saying, oh, like
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a real life Peppy leapew right coming after you. Oh we should all just
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laugh. Oh look at her, she's unwilling, you know, Oh what
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a whimp. Yeah. How unlucky people are today that they don't get to
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enjoy a few cartoons in the Lord. There is no way, there is
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no way on earth that is ever going to be aired again, at least
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not in my lifetime. Remember saying that, go ahead, Yes, I
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also miss Mitchna, miss Pepe the Philip, you I miss I miss the
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Gorilla couple. Okay that you know they accidentally the stork gets drunk and accidentally
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delivers bugs money instead of their gorilla baby. And oh yes, wife just
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keeps hitting her husband with like a rolling pin and yeah no, and it's
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just like, you know, it's domestic violence. Okay, it's funny.
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I'm okay with I'm okay with like stuff like that, as long as it's
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you know, like there's no I mean, as long as there's no double
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standard. I don't care like I think Pepoli. He is funny. A
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lot of it has to do with the misunderstanding. Really, that's why it's
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funny. Usually there's like episodes where you know, like the cat that he's
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always going after because he thinks it's a skunk, the pepe loses his stripe
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and then the cat is suddenly attracted and jumps his bones, and then you
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have a inversion because it's supposed to be funny. It's like maybe it's cold
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outside. If you ever watched that video from the actual film, it's two
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couples singing the song to each other, right, one of them it's the
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man pushing the woman to stay the night, and the other it's the woman
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pushing the man to stay the night. Mm hmmm. So look, okay,
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let her stay the night. Let's thank you for the super child.
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Let's get into this the video. So what I got today is a woman
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named Maria McLaughlin uh, and she is a feminist of the classic second wave
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sort that believes or is it. Basically, she is refuting the notion that
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trends and gender ideology and gender fluidity and all these things. She is denying
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that they are feminist and that they are in fact conservative. What. Yeah,
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that's what she says. The reason for this patriarchy, Yeah, it's
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patriarchy. Yeah, it's men's fault. That's what it is. That's what
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she's saying. She's saying that gender ideology is not feminist. This whole trend
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thing is not feminist and that, you know. And I saw some of
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this and I was like, holy shit, we have to we have to
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look at this. So she starts, just so you know the context this
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video is called feminists didn't do this reacting to Matt Walsh's rant against Helen Joyce
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and this this came out. I was around the time that Matt wallsh released
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his movie What Is a Woman? Yeah, where he was trying to find
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woman, And I just want to say, at the outset, Matt Wolfs
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did nothing wrong, even if he doesn't have the whole story. This woman
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is demonic. That's what I think. Okay, seriously, Okay, but
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let's watch it then. Okay, let's so we're starting at the beginning.
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This is this is uh you see, I have the transcript here, so
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she's basically just gonna set the stage here. Okay, so I'm gonna play
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this bit. You guys are watching. Oh, I gotta share my screen?
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What am I doing? Yeah? Sorry, hold on, I knew
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something was missing. It is all right, she'd still be Scipio and let
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me put the thing back up here. That's okay, all right, So
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now you guys are looking, I'm gonna play the video. Hi. Everyone.
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Some of the comments I get about feminism and feminists are ridiculous, and
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I'd already decided it was high time I addressed them. And I was busy
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making notes for a video when my attention was drawn to a rant by Matt
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Walsh in response to Helen Joyce, You've just seen a tiny bit of it.
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And what Matt said happened to be the main claim I wanted to focus
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on anyway, because it is a claim that comes up time and again beneath
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my videos and all over the web, which is that feminists are to blame
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for the phenomenon of transgenderism. Just pausing it there so just so we you
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know, the bananas. Feminists are not to blame for the for the transgenderism,
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because transgenderism existed before feminism, will exist after feminism. It's just something
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that it has occurred in almost every culture. So what feminism. What second
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wave feminism did was open a Pandora's box of Marxist lenses through which transgenderism could
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be justified as not an aberration, not something that's like super rare, not
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something that's you know, and I don't I don't know whether transgenderism has existed
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for you know, thousands and thousands of years. I mean maybe in a
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tiny, tiny, tiny minority of people. But even if you look at
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the leftist defense of it, ooh, ten thousand years ago in North America,
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the indigenous people's had two spirit people. Yeah, that was about jobs,
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that wasn't That wasn't about gender identity, right, That wasn't about men
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claiming to be women or women claiming to be men. That was about female
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mechanics and male seamstresses. That's what that was about. Okay, but just
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let me let me get into this for a bit, because I have looked
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at this quite a bit. There was the most in most cultures that I've
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studied, there is sort of a bit of cross gender stuff happening. So,
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for example, in Norse culture, you would see male practitioners of magic
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engaging in kind of cross dressing stuff like that, and uh, and then
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in North America you have the beard egges. I'm probably saying the word wrong,
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So there's always been sort of like and in in Thailand you also have
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the like the male cross dressers and stuff like. There's there's there's this this
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phenomenon across a lot of different cultural contexts. And it's not just like the
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the jobs that men and women do. It's also the the the behavior and
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the the dress and stuff. So that it has happened. And I don't
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think that feminine essentially. I don't think feminists invented it. However, in
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cultures I'm thinking specifically, like Little Eastern cultures, if a woman wanted to
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have the role of a man, like if she wanted to do the work
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of a man, she'd have to live like a man and forego the privileges
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of her sex. Yeah, and I know that seems like it's that probably
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is a that probably is just shocking to people who don't realize that women have
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significant privileges. For example, she would have to she would have to forego
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financial support by her her male relatives, and she could live like she could
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live that way and be referred to as he. Not A lot of women
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did that, which you would think would be surprising in a culture that's horribly
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oppressive to women. But they did have this cultural tradition. But what's interesting
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to me is that women did have to, at least in this cultural tradition,
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they did have to live as a man, forego the privileges of being
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a woman, the privileges of protection and privination, and in order to take
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on men's jobs. What feminism did is and this is something that's that that
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it did do, and it's also something that in like in Western cultures,
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cross genderism between between men and women was actually punished pretty harshly in like Christian
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cultures, I think that it was much more punished for men. In fact,
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I know for sure that it was much more punished for Yeah, woen
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could get generally get away with it unless they actually married to another woman under
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false pretenses, which did happen, and then they would be severely punished or
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fairly severely punished. And they also were not really punished for lesbianism, but
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were definitely punished if they if they existed as a man. What feminism did
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it's in its various incarnations, is it removed all of the barriers for women
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and occupy every aspect of the male role in society. Yeah, so you
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know, before they're all well retaining their right to protection and provision. Yeah,
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for protection and provision and also protection of their role, not just the
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physical aspects of their role, but I would even argue the psychological aspects,
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because if feminism does anything, it appropriates the concept of vulnerability and victimhood for
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women and women alone. So, you know, like feminism did challenge this
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idea of generals. And the other thing that feminism does, and I guess
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we should probably listen to her before to you know, before we get too
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far into it, because we don't have a lot of time today. But
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the other thing, that really big thing that feminism does is that it denies
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gender roles in order to assert that differences in history different situations for men and
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women weren't a result of actual sex differences that aren't just reflected in human society,
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but primate society, most social mammal society, aside from like hyenas.
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They're the exception that proves the rule that those sex roles that we see in
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every advanced mammal species with any kind of social cohesion and every culture is not
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a result of biology, but of oppression of men by women, in order
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of females by females by males. Yeah, in order to assert that,
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you have to say that sex is not biological, it's gender, its socialization.
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So in order for the very foundational belief of feminism to work, because
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you can simply look at history as I do and say, well that you
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know the fact that men are generally in positions of greater responsibility and risk taking,
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so sort of an expression of sex roles is sort of evolved among mammals
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various reasons, you know, like that that's just an expression of how we
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do, right, It's just what we do. They look at that and
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they say that is oppression, and they can only say that's oppression when they
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deny that it's biology. So that, in order the very basis of female
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or feminist conjecture requires a denial of biology. Yep. So yeah, this
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is on you. But let's see, let's see how she says it's not
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on her. I want to add though, to that. I mean,
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I know that there have always been people who didn't fit neatly into a male
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or female box. And I don't even like to say that because that sounds
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like commye talk, but I don't. I think that it's interesting that we
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used to know the difference between a man who did a woman's job and vice
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versa, which is a two spirit thing. Cross dressing, transvestites, drag
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queens, an actual people suffering from gender dysphoria that have to live in the
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opposite as the opposite sex in order to feel normal, and that that used
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to be those were clear cut or at least somewhat clear categories, right that
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we could look at. But today I think the only acceptable version of that
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is the last one that I mentioned, And that so like just because men
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did women's work, or just because some men cross dressed, or just because
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you know, guys in the Philippines are dressed up like women does not mean
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that they want to castrate themselves and live as women. So like these are
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very this is very, very different, and I think that and especially when
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you look at the scale at this that this is happening at I mean,
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we did that Twitter spaces and there were two trans men in the chat,
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and I was like, what are the odds? Like, I mean that
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this should be like it's like rolling, you know, like triple sixes on
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a dice, like it should be very very rare, and yet that there
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was, and I was like, okay, wait a minute, wait a
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minute. First of all, it's it's just, you know, I think
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that there is and this has to I think this has to be acknowledged.
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There is a serious push to confuse young people sexually and it's not in it
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And I think it comes from queer theory, which comes from feminism. Yes,
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yeah, absolutely, And can I just get in here? And in
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terms of having two trends, and again we probably really should get to what
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she has to say. In terms of having two trends, men, we
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are weirdos Brian And yeah, no, it's it's true. It's it's like
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saying I can't believe like twenty percent of the men at the ICM I nineteen,
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you know, a claim they'd been you know, falsely accused. It's
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like, and that's like, no, I mean I get that, I
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get that weird. But I do think that I especially agree when we're talking
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not talking about transmen or trans women who who are interested in masculine issues,
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but definitely when you see the ones who are steeped in feminist thought, you
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have to ask Okay, is this is this something that's genuine? There is?
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There is a lot of mysagy in the transgender is there is there is
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this something? But in terms of the trans people who are necessarily part of
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the men's rights movement because of the way that we frame stuff, I would
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say that there's a higher probability that they genuinely have gender dysmorphia, or in
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the case of maybe trans some trans men, they might have experienced some severe
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abuse by women. Yeah. So, I mean, but that's like a
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you know, that's a different discussion, and I think we should just get
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a little bit into Yeah, I did get another I did get another super
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chow. I'm sorry, Wow, while you were talking it was good.
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It's a twenty five dollars super chow from shadow Wolf, and he says,
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I always appreciate Allison's history lessons. It gives a lot of insight as to
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where we came from, as well as an idea of where we're going.
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Thank you, shadow Wolf, appreciate it. Okay, let's play some more
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in the video. We'll show you what Helen Joyce had said, as well
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as plenty more from that during the course of this video. But before we
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go there. Let me just state at the outset for those who don't realize
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it, that feminism is by definition for female human beings. Cool, thank
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you for formitting that te between people of all genders. Isn't feminism, It
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is postmodernist drivel. Feminism is please blame me postmodernism. That's the entire basis
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of second wave feminist thought. Where is that? Guy? Oh? Good
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lord, look lady, Okay, if you want to appeal to biology,
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I'm afraid that you lose everything in feminism. I know that feminists, as
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some sort of scientific academics and good standing, never really assert their conjecture,
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which is astounding if you think about it. I don't know any other scientific
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endeavor that isn't doesn't even assert what it's asserting. It doesn't even Yeah,
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this is what we're asserting. This is what we're testing. No, feminism
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doesn't even do that. But let's assume that. Let me make let me
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make an informed judgment of what feminist conjecture is. History isn't a result of
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biological sex roles. It's a result of the completely arbitrary oppression of women by
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men. All Right, you're gonna have to say goodbye to that You're gonna
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have to say goodbye bye to that if you want to put all the all
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the little gremlins back in Pandora's box. Their FRIENDO, yeah, of a
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feminists that said, I think she admits to being a biological determinist. Well,
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yeah, they all are ever since the trans thing came up, like
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Julie Bindle and you know, all of these second wave freaking lesbian separatist women
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who who basically said, you know, well women are and it's it's literally
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the Norway shit with you know from here in vasque that you know, like,
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oh, everything below the neck is biological, everything above the neck is
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social right, And I'm like, are you are you fucking kidding me?
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Right? And and they're like, because otherwise, why would you have disparities
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in uh workplace, in vocational choices? Right? Why would you have disparities
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in what people prefer in how they behave? Right? You wouldn't because,
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uh you, you wouldn't have disparities if everything above the neck was just socialized,
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you know. And ooh, it's all about you know, telling the
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little boy, you know, the baby boy. Oh you're you're such a
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tough little man, you know, and telling the baby, You're oh,
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you're so precious and fragile. Right, No, no, any any like
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As Stephen Pinker said right in one of his TED talks, right, there
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are people who know that children are born not blank slates with their own dispositions,
30:45
personalities, all of that, with all of that kind of laid out
30:49
right, and we call those people parents. And I have had three kids,
31:02
and they were all drastically different right from the freaking get go there you
31:08
go. All right, let's play some more because it gets better. This
31:15
is like, I'm so happy for this find I gotta tell you. Okay,
31:18
let's play some more. It is not for those men who think they
31:21
are some kind of woman or wish they were. The point of feminism is
31:29
to make things better for women and girls. I'm trying to put it as
31:33
simply as possible. And there has never been unity amongst feminists or on just
31:41
about anything on what exactly would make things better and why and how to achieve
31:48
it, and on the nature of men and of women and how we are
31:52
similar and how we are different. I mean, so there's no agreement.
31:57
But for sure, this queer stuff is not feminism. Okay, were everything
32:04
else except we need men to exist as men. Otherwise we don't have a
32:08
movement, yeah right, yeah yeah, or or we we agree on nothing
32:15
except that we should inform public policy. Yeah yeah, Lord, what a
32:23
bunch like this whole thing is the just it's just opened up the whole chest
32:30
a crap. That is, it's literally like they're just all of their chickens
32:37
are coming home to roost right now with this bullshit that's going on, you
32:42
know, with trans women in women's bathrooms, trans women competing in women's sports,
32:50
trans women freaking uh usurping title nine right, trans women, uh,
32:58
trans everything, you know, And I'm looking at it, and it's like,
33:02
where do you think this came from? This came from a bunch of
33:07
freaking retarded women who thought they were way smarter than they were, who applied
33:13
postmodernism to a bunch of gibberish papers in academia forty years ago. Okay,
33:22
and now everybody's basing jurisprudence and public policy on what was easily extrapolatable from all
33:32
of that gobbledygook. Right, So don't blame feminism, don't blame feminism.
33:40
Yeah, they're just about a quality, Karen. That was all it was.
33:49
Yeah, you know what, you know what equality is. No more
33:52
alimony, no more child support, no more hocking welfare access, you know,
33:57
preferential welfare access. No more women's domestic violence shelters. They're all unisex
34:04
now, right, No more women's homeless shelters, they're all unisex. Now,
34:08
how about that? Right? How about that? Right? This is
34:14
the classic case of we want cake, we want to eat it, and
34:17
then we want to still have it, right, and then society to like,
34:23
freaking twenty the twenty fourth century invent replicators and maybe you can have that.
34:32
Well, they don't. They want society to live under this cognitive dissonance
34:38
that they themselves constructed. Yes, And the thing is that what I've realized
34:45
about feminism is it is not an academic study. It is not a philosophy.
34:50
It's not even a political position. It is just a way for women
34:53
to extract things from men by manipulating men's identity. What's it? What has
35:00
happened women in history? They used to use oh, you're not a real
35:07
man to manipulate men into doing stuff, or you need to avenge this family's
35:12
honor in order to manipulate men to doing stuff, and feminists just do that.
35:16
They're just an extension of the same thing. You know, it's funny.
35:22
I think that what this woman, because she does go on and on
35:27
for a while about another word. She talks about John Money and and Kinsey
35:35
as the guys that you know, sort of started the whole gender theory thing,
35:42
and she claims that they're not feminists there because they were embraced. They
35:45
were embraced by feminists exactly when there were men. How could they be feminists?
35:50
They were, they were embraced by feminists back when feminists thought it proved
35:57
what they wanted the world to know, which is, there shouldn't be any
36:00
disparities in the workplace, There shouldn't be any disparities in earnings. There shouldn't
36:06
be because there really is no difference between men and women. Yeah, difference,
36:12
no difference whatsoever, of course. But but here's the thing that I
36:15
think. You know, feminists like this woman, this trans thing is scaring
36:21
the shit out of them. But in a way it scares me too,
36:25
but for different reasons. Different scaring them because they're afraid they're going to lose
36:30
all of that power that they have, all of that stranglehold they've had on
36:37
on, you know, like politicians and money and media control and all the
36:43
other things. And I'm afraid that all the people who are transitioning because they
36:46
don't have any other outlet, are going to kill themselves. And that's my
36:51
concern. That's not their concern. Their concerned is their power. My concern
36:54
is the mental health of the people that are that are essentially engaging in this.
36:59
I mean, yes, there are actors, but they've made it to
37:00
where it's impossible to make the distinction and you can't even call it out.
37:04
So you're just going to end up with a lot of super I'm sorry,
37:07
but that's what's going to happen. It's not going to be pretty. They're
37:10
playing chess with people's lives. Yes. The other thing I would like to
37:15
ask is what does she say to all of the feminists who identify as feminists
37:19
and support trends, right, Okay, well, they they work for their
37:24
their their their closet conservatives. There's never been agreement, there's never been agreement
37:30
you see, within the feminist movement as to what is best, what is
37:36
best, what best serves women's equality, you see. So that's what she'd
37:44
say, mm hmm. Well, that's those feminists over there, that's what
37:49
we've we've we've dealt with this for a decade now more those feminists. That's
37:55
not us feminists over here. You realize is that if society and it does
38:02
look like society does basically run on the feminist input, shall we say,
38:09
then we have a situation where feminists are inputting two completely contrary opposition oppositional things
38:19
which will most likely end up tearing society apart as we try to maintain this
38:23
cognitive dissonance. Was we try to accommodate both because both represent women, because
38:31
they're feminists. Yes, And I guess that's I guess that's the peak ginocentrism,
38:37
isn't it Two completely opposing movements who both think that they are advocating for
38:44
their women. All right, Yeah, no, well there's three. There's
38:47
three movements now, right, because the traditional traditionalist movement is seeing us resurgence
38:57
of okay, can we get back to saying here? Right? You know,
39:00
And and because the push has been so far in the wrong direction by
39:07
the other two movements, they're pushing back real hard. They're like women need
39:10
to submit to their husbands, and you know, and all of this,
39:15
and it's like, no, women don't necessarily need to submit to their husbands,
39:19
not in every little thing. Right. You know, you can negotiate
39:22
with your husband. He has his areas of expertise. You have your areas
39:25
of expertise. Each have your strengths and weaknesses. You should be filling in
39:30
the empty spots on each other's spreadsheets, right, and where you're the expert,
39:36
you should have the you know, the greater say, maybe not the
39:40
unequivocal say, but the greater say. Right, And same with him in
39:45
areas where he's the expert, and you talk about it, you discuss it,
39:50
you negotiate it, you come to a decision. Right now, we
39:53
have this movement of you know, submissive wives who are like, well I'm
39:58
just gonna do it my husband who tells me. And it's like, well,
40:00
that's not necessarily the best thing, honey, because men aren't always responsible,
40:06
right, They don't always behave responsibly. They don't always manage money,
40:09
well, they don't always you know, uh, look after themselves. They
40:16
don't always take care of business perfectly. Right. You can't just defer to
40:22
him on every little thing. Sometimes you do need to have a discussion,
40:28
right, but well it's not it's not really I don't know if it's really
40:34
like, uh, but that's what marriage used to be. Okay, let
40:37
me let me put it this way. I think that the in my opinion,
40:40
my interpretation of the admonition is more recognizing that men have women's best interests
40:49
at heart, even if they are irresponsible. Faith it's a leap of faith,
40:55
right, So you you recognize that even if you have to step in
41:00
and say no, you are going to go to that dentalist appointment, dental
41:05
appointment, or no, you're not going to buy that new gadget. Yeah,
41:09
yeah, even if you have, but you still recognize at the end
41:13
of the day that men have your best interests at heart and they deserve a
41:19
fucking break. Feminism has never given men a break on this ever, it
41:23
ever since its inception. So I mean, and it's really difficult if you're
41:29
a woman and you realize, Okay, first of all, you get what
41:32
you get, right, you're not settling unless you think that your entire life
41:38
is settling. You get a life, you get a partner, and that's
41:42
what you get. Get busy living it. And then the other thing is
41:46
that recognize that your partner is trying the best he can, right, and
41:52
it's really hard. And also start recognizing, start letting yourself be informed by
42:01
not just that he's trying the best that he can, but maybe make it
42:05
easier for him in that process, you know, recognize it, appreciate him
42:10
for the respect him for that, maybe make it a bit easier. And
42:15
then you're starting to get in the mindset of companion, companionate and loyal.
42:19
If you're a more submissive woman, maybe you do prefer to always always be
42:23
the one who's differring. But take responsibility for that too. Yeah, when
42:29
when when a gigantic fuck up happens because of that, If it does,
42:34
that's also your responsibility for having allowed it, having deferred against your better judgment.
42:42
Okay, so it's it's like this is this is what I would say.
42:45
It's more that that admonition Brian calls it a leap of faith. I
42:50
would say it's an aspect of trust, and it's a way of managing a
42:53
relationship that is healthy and ultimately is going to help both both partners grow,
43:00
I think. And yeah, so that's the way I interpret it, not
43:06
in terms of you know, blind obedience. Yeah, No, No,
43:09
I don't think it's Yeah, I don't think it's that. I think it's
43:13
basically like, okay, it's it's so that you're not engaging in a constant
43:17
power struggle and you just kind of like let the man make a call and
43:23
if you have a better idea, you offer it up. It doesn't mean
43:28
anything, it's not we're not talking about Islam, so but anyway, but
43:34
no, I mean, like I mean Islam meaning it means submission. That's
43:37
what I mean. I'm not talking about the women. I think ultimately that
43:40
whole admonition is just to give them a break from being Honestly, the early
43:50
church fathers were like, just ladies, can you give them a break?
43:52
They're doing their best, you know, like just that's that's I think that's
43:58
basically what it is. And unfortunately, when it's interpreted in its most I
44:02
don't think superficial and way, it actually gives a hell of a lot of
44:07
hand to a woman in a relationship. Because again, when we were talking
44:13
to Sergio or whatever the hell his name is, he was basically saying that
44:16
if a man does his role right, the woman falls in line. And
44:20
I'm like, do you realize that gives the woman all the control in the
44:25
relationship. Yeah, because she can if she is a hysterical and then he's
44:31
in control. Uh, if he's she's a hysterical wild beast, that's all
44:36
your fault. So she can be as much of a wild to beast as
44:39
she wants and it's still your fault. Good luck with that, luck with
44:44
those terms, like making them work for you if you're a dude and it's
44:50
like, I don't think that works. I think that's a really superficial analysis
44:54
of that of that statement. And from what I can see, what what
45:00
has happened is we've lost a lot of our wisdom about men and women.
45:02
We had what I watch, for example, movies from like sixty years ago.
45:09
First of all, the female characters are far more interesting. They're really
45:14
compelling. Like I what I noticed is that in many of these movies,
45:20
you are you are hanging on what the women do or say, yeah,
45:24
because you know that it's gonna have a huge impact on the plot. That's
45:29
not the case in movies today. They they may have like a superficial like
45:35
Captain Marvel inflam quality, but it doesn't doesn't resonate on an emotional level.
45:42
Like you know, Katherine or Audrey Hepburn and Lion of Winter. I dare
45:46
you to watch that, Katherine Heppern, Yeah, Katherine Heppern and Lion of
45:52
Winter. I dare you to watch that and not just be like hanging off
45:55
of everything she says. Even though she does nothing physical in the entire or
46:00
movie, she's basically orchestrating all of the activities and she's the power behind the
46:08
phone. Yeah, Lady Galadriel and the Lord of the Rings movies, like
46:15
what like there there are so many iconic women in you know, in history
46:23
that uh uh were basically they they didn't rail against their role, right,
46:31
they knew what their role was. They knew that it was to counsel their
46:37
husband. Well, Eleanor of Aquitaine was was some okay that that this is
46:45
really getting historical. Eleanor of Aquitaine was herself sort of a how how to
46:51
describe it, a force of nature and uh so uh and this actually is
46:57
true about a lot of uh midi Renaissance history, Like if you actually read
47:02
it, it is it's completely different than what feminists presented as completely the reason
47:12
one of the reasons I think that they actually gave inheritance rights to men is
47:16
so that men could occasionally actually have control over the country, because otherwise it
47:23
would be endless dowager queen steward. Yeah, well, not just desurping,
47:30
but legitimately carrying it, carrying the power. Because he's the king is dead,
47:36
she has to be the steward for the children, you know, because
47:38
women lived longer, and they live longer, not just because they generally live
47:43
longer, sometimes because they committed petty treason. Yeah, sometimes because they committed
47:49
that, but also because they weren't outfighting wars. All right. You actually,
47:53
if you think that feminists will write about history, go read some sometime
48:00
there. It is rife with women who are power brokers, even in the
48:04
Roman era. And it's also rife with women who are shield rattlers, who
48:10
are weaving the course of history by manipulating men's identities. And wherever women are
48:19
restricted in any kind of way, they always gain more power to manipulate men's
48:23
identities to do it for them. Women's limitations become men's obligations in history.
48:30
Yeah, oh yeah, let's play some more of the video because we don't
48:35
have a lot of time left. Yeah, I know, that's why I'm
48:37
saying we play some more of the video, So, yep, we go.
48:39
If we go back to the campaign for women's suffrage, there were those
48:45
who argued that women needed political representation as women are different from men and have
48:52
very specific needs that were not being addressed by male politicians and the laws they
48:58
were making. And there were those who argued that women should have political representation
49:04
because actually women are not that different from men, and they were just as
49:08
capable as men of contributing to the greater good of society, and indeed,
49:14
as waged a say in who represented them. Yeah. No's she's making the
49:22
argument that even during the suffrage era, feminism was not unified in why Well,
49:30
it wasn't unified in why they should have power, but it was certainly
49:34
unified in wanting power. Yeah. Is this accurate, Karen, Yeah,
49:40
well there was. There definitely was the argument that women required the vote because
49:50
they had specific needs that weren't being adequately addressed I guess with the changing times
49:58
or whatever. And there were feminists who argued that that it was it was
50:04
because women were out in the workforce more and more earning, like doing wage
50:09
labor, and they deserved the vote because they were paying taxes. The only
50:15
problem with that argument is they weren't paying taxes. Yeah, human kind of
50:22
a social political pincer attack. Yeah, Like, you have to choose between
50:28
one of these things, but both of them lead to the same thing,
50:31
giving women more power, more power specifically, And it doesn't really matter at
50:38
the end of the day because the branch that won out was the one that
50:45
was like, no women. Well you know what, actually both branches want
50:50
to have it, have their cake and eat it too. Yes, she's
50:53
not talking about men the condition for men in this at all. She's saying
50:59
the suffrage move men women. This, these women and these women. But
51:01
what about the men. What was their situation? Did they just have the
51:06
vote? Situation is to is to is to do whatever is necessary to provide
51:09
and protect for women in whatever contacts. Women say they want to be provided
51:14
and protected, which is throughout history. But what I was trying to get
51:17
at is that they had it both ways. Feminism had it both ways.
51:22
Until the trans movement, women were both special and equal. This is that,
51:28
This is what she's saying, Well, femin you see, feminists are
51:30
different because they wanted women to be one branch of feminism wanted women to be
51:35
special and the other branch of feminism wanted them to be equal. Well,
51:37
guess what you've you've basically had it both ways until now yep, and now
51:45
the the now the bill has come due, and now you're you're no longer
51:51
special. You're saying, well, we're equal to that that person with a
51:55
penis using the lady's bathroom. Now okay, And now that the bill has
52:04
come due, you are saying, well, because one half of feminism wanted
52:07
to be special and the other half wanted to be equal, well, then
52:12
we're not responsible for wanting to be special and equal. No, that's not
52:17
the way it works. You have had an unbelievable run of influence and benefit
52:25
with this special but equal but also equal bullshit, with this cognitive dissonance,
52:32
and now it has come due because you have fractured the very foundation of society.
52:37
That's what we're seeing right now. This bullshit has fractured our foundation the
52:45
end. Do you see the necklace she's got on, It's like a it's
52:49
a feminist pendant. You see that. It reminds me of those nineteen seventies
52:55
like afrocentric, like power fist, you know, black power fists medallions.
53:00
But she's got a feminous symbol on there. It's a pink one. He's
53:05
a real one. No, it's it's gold. It's like, well not
53:08
gold, but like a metal. It's right right around her neck. It's
53:13
a it's a feminist logo. It looks the female signed with the fist,
53:15
you know. Yeah, I know that Black Lives Matter modeled there, and
53:20
you know, like the feminist symbol, the the the female symbol with the
53:27
fist is it's been iconic for decades. Yeah, I know, she's wearing
53:30
it around her neck, like I'm saying, like she's like one of those
53:35
you know, black power people from the seventies, like Angela Davis. But
53:38
it's the feminist thing because she's she's from the sixties. That's what she says
53:44
in the UH later on her talisman. Yes, it's a talisman to protect
53:50
her from some magical power. I'm fairly certain she's a lesbian separatist too,
53:55
but I don't know for sure. So should play one more clip or it's
54:00
one more clip if we can. Okay, let's just do a little bit
54:02
more. And those differences of opinion amongst feminists, both of which are perfectly
54:08
legitimate points of view while we're working things out. They have been apparent in
54:15
feminist discourse ever since, right up to the present day. Okay, so
54:20
she really is going with, Oh, one half of us wanted to be
54:24
special, one half of us wanted to be equal. We ended up getting
54:30
both, therefore were responsible for neither. Yeah, god, damn, this
54:35
is some serious woman logic. Yeah, no offense, none taken. Again,
54:44
it's okay, she's saying, this is interesting. We'll have to come
54:46
back to this later. But she's saying, look, there's all these different
54:51
kinds of feminism. But then she's going to land on but none of them
54:57
include trans women. So and and and that is and that is ultimately,
55:01
by the way, her concern. It's not trans men, because trans men
55:06
they're gener traders whatever, like they're they're over there. She's her concern is
55:10
men trying to live as women. And and according to her logic, feminism
55:15
covers like there's like a million flavors of feminism, but that is not one
55:21
of them. No. Yeah, I did notice that she was only seemed
55:25
to be concerned about trans women. So mm hmmm mm hmm. And of
55:31
course that's because to her. They're men, and ye's they're doing a thing
55:37
they're not supposed to be doing. Yeah, no, they're usurping. Okay,
55:40
well, if it sucks so much to be a woman, okay,
55:46
why would you accuse trans women of usurping women's special status? Right? Because
55:58
that's it, Like this whole thing with oh, you know women, girls
56:01
are gonna get raped in the bathroom and stuff. I mean there is a
56:04
concern over that for sure, Right. I don't think that concern is something
56:10
that's gonna, you know, be just like gonna happen with actual trans women,
56:16
with actual people who have gender dysphoria. I don't. I don't think.
56:21
No, it's gonna come from the impostors, right, the ones who
56:25
are like, well, if I wear a dress and pretend to be trends
56:29
and nobody can question me, right, you know, then then I can
56:32
go in sexually assault women and girls in the bathroom. Can I just put
56:37
something out really quickly? There was a woman who I believe sexually assaulted girls
56:43
by pretending to be a boy or a man. Ye, so yeah,
56:46
yeah, yeah, women are not like and I'm pretty sure there would also
56:52
be women who would use the opportunity to have access to men to sexually assault
56:58
them too. I know, anybody remember does anybody remember that case that rape
57:02
case in in I think it was in the UK, right, where these
57:09
two women met on a dating app or something or a dating site and one
57:15
was posing as a man and they met and in person and then when they
57:23
went to retire to the bedroom on their after their first date, the one
57:32
blindfolded the other right said you know this is this is you know this will
57:37
be really sexy, and then raped her with a dildo. And when the
57:45
victim realized that it was a woman not a man, right, she claimed
57:52
that she was raped, and I believe she won her case. Okay,
57:59
rape by deception, Yeah, that that that actually was one of the things
58:04
that women who dressed as men in like the Middle Ages would get. Yeah,
58:07
that they would deceive women into marrying them. And then I don't know
58:13
if it was rape by deception, but it was like some kind of uh
58:16
unique form of big bigamy. I don't know, but it wasn't. It
58:20
was frowned upon, shall we say. So, It's like, yeah,
58:22
there's gonna be unsavory people doing in savory things. But then again, like
58:27
there are unsavorable unsavorably unsavory lesbians or presumably bisexual women, or maybe just opportunistic
58:35
straight women doing unsavory things in women's prisons forever now, and nobody can I
58:40
mean honestly, yeah, they're there. There. There may be some trans
58:45
women rapists who end up in women's prisons, or or there may be some
58:51
uh men claiming to be trans women, yeah, who end up in women's
58:55
prisons. I would not think that that would be the best thing for them
58:59
to do, because women in women's prisons don't tend to be very nice,
59:04
so you know, might might be the case of not putting a fox in
59:07
the henhouse, but a hen in the fox house. Yeah, But except
59:12
for that, the women in women's prisons tend to like get up to a
59:20
whole bunch of nasty shit because they have a lot more leeway. They're they're
59:24
not guarded as strictly right, Like you know, you look at you look
59:30
at women's prisons in Canada versus men's prisons in Canada, and the difference is
59:37
like one is like a condo complex, right, and the other is you
59:45
know, an actual prison. Oh, I was muted. Are we finished
59:53
that clip? That's yeah? Do we have a Brian. Have have we
1:00:00
lost you? Brian? Uh? Oh, I think we've lost Brian.
1:00:07
Maybe do we have a brand or Bryant flee Bryant, Bryant, flee Bryant.
1:00:20
No, no, I just I'm here. I'm here for a second.
1:00:24
Okay, Oh, well, we were, we were, we were
1:00:28
uncharacteristically finished speaking. I wasn't expecting that that was a plot twist. I
1:00:36
didn't see coming stopped talking. You did not see that? Cook? Oh
1:00:45
no, I'm not viswami. No. Okay, do you remember do you
1:00:51
remember? Uh? Who framed Roger Rabbit? Only when it's funny like we're
1:00:55
only going to stop talking lead to a technical difficulty? Yeah, all right,
1:01:02
where somebody says your frame Roger Rabbit? I gotta do my favorite quote.
1:01:06
Get out of that chair. That's my brother's chair. Okay, are
1:01:14
we are we doing anymore? Or are we a little bit more? One
1:01:17
tiny bit more more? I gotta go in five minutes. Any One feminist
1:01:22
speaks for all feminists is wrong. God, feminism as monolithic is also wrong
1:01:30
and another Okay, if it's not monolithic, cook, cook, all right?
1:01:37
If you are not monolithic, as you say, if there's no one
1:01:42
conjecture, then you are not scientific and what are you? Yeah? No,
1:01:47
If it's not monolithic, then why does feminism take the credit for all
1:01:54
progress one aspect her? Right? Yeah, yeah, it's monolithic. When
1:02:06
we are crediting feminists with something supposedly positive for women who can't credit to women
1:02:13
themselves, we have to credit feminism because feminism is suddenly a monolith when it
1:02:16
comes to credit, but an accountability and feminism disappears into a fart of particles
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and you're expected to sword fight it. Yeah. And here's the other thing,
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Like, if feminism is supposed to be some kind of reflection of reality
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insofar as it makes a causal statement about reality, and I think you know,
1:02:42
in my many many years of observing feminism, I would say that causal
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statement as men in charge equals women oppressed. Okay, But if if you're
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supposed to be a descriptive statement about reality, a causal relationship in reality,
1:03:00
which is what science is creating causal relationships, then you are by definition a
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monolith. Right, Physics is a monolith. I mean it changes, it
1:03:13
evolves based on people's understanding, but it is a series of statements that don't
1:03:17
go anywhere you know, physicists don't go out and say, well, you
1:03:22
know there are multiple physics forms of you know. Wait, you can't hit
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us down. No, if you're science, you can be pinned down.
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And if you're not science, then you have no claim to objective reality.
1:03:39
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It's okay. I have I have made some arrangements, all right. So
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say, Brian. I figured that's good. Okay, all right, I
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got your approval. I guess, yeah, sure, Like I don't think
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the thing is that we're going to start. She definitely is a gem,
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Brian. This is a gem, isn't it. She's a gem. She
1:06:58
is like the rough. It's like we opened a crypt and that that frog
1:07:03
came out. Hello, my baby, Hello, my god. It's just
1:07:08
like a blash from the past, this one it is. I know.
1:07:11
These arguments are so twenty fourteen. Oh, but they're being dusted off because
1:07:15
of the trans right. Yeah, because of the trans thing. She like
1:07:18
went into the old trunk in the attic and they're like, oh, I
1:07:20
have this. I'll just tell them there are lots of feminisms and really like,
1:07:27
you can't let's readcap here. I swear to god. I feel like
1:07:30
this is like the there's like a larger plot where you know, they this
1:07:34
trans thing happens. You have these people that are essentially chemically altering their chemistry.
1:07:42
They're being told by their instructors and by the media and everything that this
1:07:45
is all reversible, it's totally okay, just go for it, and they're
1:07:48
doing it, and then you have the feminists that are pushing that on them,
1:07:51
and then you have the feminists that are opposing it, and at the
1:07:54
end of the day, there'll be fewer men Like like that's I mean,
1:07:59
I feel like and they'll win no matter what. Right, Like, they're
1:08:00
you're either gonna go with the intersectional side or you're gonna go with the turf
1:08:04
side. And you know, either way, the feminists still win and they
1:08:09
remain relevant and they maintain their power and they stay rich. So I feel
1:08:13
like that's what's going on in my You know, it might be a situation
1:08:16
where this is just something that the the snake eating its own tail has got
1:08:21
to the base of its own skull. But I don't know that it's going
1:08:26
Like I'm telling you, like feminism is like cockroaches. It's gonna survive,
1:08:29
like it's gonna it's gonna reinvent itself again. It's gonna come back and be
1:08:33
like, oh, you see, you need us, And it doesn't matter
1:08:35
how things pan out, they will That's what they're gonna do, because that's
1:08:40
what in any science. It's just people that want power and will say whatever
1:08:45
they have to say to get it. We we gotta then we got to
1:08:48
just keep the fires have gone to or a leg because yeah, conservatives feet
1:08:54
to the fire about this chef. They're constantly like conservatives are like, oh
1:09:00
no, they're look at the second way. The radical feminists though, they'ren't
1:09:04
write we gotta fold them back in. No, No, they created this
1:09:10
mess. They'll do it again. Okay, don't don't bring them back in.
1:09:15
They need they need to lose their allies, they need to lose the
1:09:19
the whatever platform they have because this is nonsense. This is just spinning our
1:09:25
wheels in the dirt and not going forward anyway. What I wanted to point
1:09:29
out specifically about what this woman has said so far is basically she said feminists
1:09:34
disagreed, not really about Actually, what I would say is it wasn't a
1:09:39
disagreement of kind, it was a disagreement of emphasis. I'm pretty sure the
1:09:45
disagreement was really Group A feminists wanted women to be seen as special first.
1:09:51
Group B feminists wanted women to be seen as equal first, and they were
1:09:56
arguing over where in the where in the list of demands equal versus special should
1:10:01
be? But they both want it both. And now she's saying, because
1:10:06
there is an argument over how we should wait special versus equal, we're not
1:10:12
responsible for either, even though you want it both. You got both,
1:10:15
and now you're dealing with the consequences. Right, that's one thing she said.
1:10:20
And now she's saying, oh, yeah, feminism is not a monolith
1:10:24
except when it comes to praise and taking responsibility for all progress. Right.
1:10:29
No, if you're not a monolith. In other words, if there are
1:10:32
multiple feminism, there's no such thing as multiple physics. Okay, if you
1:10:38
want to have multiple feminisms, then you are not. You have no claim
1:10:44
on being a science of objective reality that reflects some kind of causal relationship objective
1:10:53
causal relationship and reality. There are no multiple physics. There are no multiple
1:10:58
forms of any other scientific agenda or endeavor. There may it may evolve,
1:11:04
it may change, you know, the state of the knowledge may change,
1:11:08
but there are you know, like I said, physics isn't is. There's
1:11:12
not multiple physics. So that you either have multiple feminisms so you can evade
1:11:17
all accountability, or you are a scientific you're presenting a causal relationship about reality
1:11:29
in a scientific context. And if you're not, then nothing in feminism.
1:11:33
No feminist assertion is at all an assertion about reality. You are not revealing
1:11:42
reality. You are manufacturing a consensus about fake reality. That's what you're doing.
1:11:48
So it's like, at the very heart all of this that she's saying
1:11:53
is about evading responsibility while retaining the authority of being being about objective reality.
1:12:00
This is, to its core, this entire thought sphere, if you won't
1:12:05
even want to call it thought, is bullshit from stem to stern, from
1:12:12
the moment of its inception, feminism was bullshit. Now, if feminism had
1:12:18
kept itself to Hey, this is how women experience reality. We're not making
1:12:23
any objective or causal statements about reality. We're just saying our subjective experience it
1:12:29
would have validity. But that's not what they did. That's not what they
1:12:31
did. They claim to have objective scientific knowledge about reality at the same time
1:12:41
as they refuse to be held accountable to even stating their conjecture, even stating
1:12:45
the causal relationship that they say, you know is as an objective is an
1:12:51
observation of reality or what they're going to test about reality? Okay, bullshit
1:12:56
from the moment of its inception. You do not get the authority of science
1:13:00
while having the lack of accountability of a woman. Okay, oh man,
1:13:10
I'm such a freaking misogynist, but you know, ultimately, you're just so
1:13:15
you're just on team Red. You should be on you should be on team
1:13:17
Red versus team Blue. Anyway, this just freaking disgusts me. And it's
1:13:24
true. Women just don't aren't held to the same level of accountability as men.
1:13:28
They aren't just and one of the reasons why is because they're identity like
1:13:31
men. Identity is found seems to be founded on providing and protecting women,
1:13:38
right, which means that they are accountable to women in a way that women
1:13:42
are never accountable to men. And there's a whole because there isn't that accountability,
1:13:47
there's a whole realm of growth that's completely cut off from women. Hey,
1:13:53
hey, man, hey bro, if she drugs you and cuts off
1:13:55
your penis while you're unconscious, it's your fault. You didn't game her hard
1:13:59
enough, good lord, So stop being a pussy anyway, let's uh,
1:14:03
let's wrap it up here. Sure she won't go to jail, and they'll
1:14:08
laugh at you on the view, but it's, uh, it's it doesn't
1:14:11
mean that she has like more power. Come on, guy, just you
1:14:14
know, just maintain frame. And how how are you supposed to maintain frame
1:14:19
without acknowledging reality? Yeah? Like that? And this is the funny thing
1:14:25
Like this, this, Sergio, is a good argument for men being as
1:14:30
incapable of rational thought as Women's the status quo. It's not he's less than
1:14:36
the status quo. Like this is there's nothing, there's nothing unique there at
1:14:41
all. It's the same ship. Tell that to Johnny Depp. Tell tell
1:14:45
Johnny Depp to like, you know, man, harder. He's like the
1:14:48
most he was the most sought off the dude in the world, or at
1:14:51
least way up there, and he still got his life destroyed. He'll give
1:14:56
you this ship. Yeah, it's And that's the thing. How do you
1:15:00
maintain frame without acknowledging the power that women have, like and having them hold
1:15:05
holding them to accountable to it. And it really comes down to that,
1:15:09
do you have the guts and the fearlessness the whole women accountable and not let
1:15:15
them, you know, retreat into their their shell of Oh but I'm just
1:15:19
no, you're not. You're not a little victim, You're not a little
1:15:23
helpless anything, you know. And to be honest, that's uh. I
1:15:29
was actually thinking about that. I think that one of the things that I
1:15:32
respect and admire about my husband Jonathan most is that he is completely fearless when
1:15:39
it comes to being honest with the women in his life. I have seen
1:15:44
him shut down the bullshit that both his mother and his sister and you know,
1:15:47
and to some degree me and some of my female relatives have thrown at
1:15:50
him like he's just like, have you seen that waffle house fight with the
1:15:55
woman who just plucks the the the out of the air. Do you remember
1:16:00
that one? I vaguely remember that, but I don't. Waffle House fights
1:16:04
are not my prefer genre of video. Yeah, I can understand that,
1:16:09
but people might know what I'm talking about. She just like plucks it out
1:16:13
of the air, sets it down on the ground or throws it or something,
1:16:15
and then just does it come at me bro gesture. Yeah, that's
1:16:18
that's my husband. When it comes to women's bullshit, just complete neutralization.
1:16:25
And I respect that. I've never met a man, maybe aside from Brian
1:16:30
who in maybe Mike and a few other men's rights activists, I've never met
1:16:35
someone who's so fearlessly truthful to women. And uh, yeah, that's really
1:16:42
admirable. And there's not a lot of guys like that. They hide in
1:16:47
this high coverage. Yeah, it requires a lot of courage, and most
1:16:53
men either hide in feminism or they hide in this real red pill. Just
1:16:57
bro, just game harder bro. Yeah, bullshit which is hiding it's cowardice,
1:17:01
doesn't bother me. I'm not a pussy. As the police drag him
1:17:05
off after kicking his ass because the woman said she didn't feel safe, so
1:17:11
anyway we should close it out. Then we'll do some Sunday. Yeah,
1:17:15
we're gonna we'll pick this up. Maybe we can do like a beat Saber
1:17:19
plus weird blash from the past woman she's not weird, but okay, yeah,
1:17:29
I don't know. Yeah, but we've opened up the crypt and she
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