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IS CANCEL CULTURE FAIR ? · Blind But Now I See

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  Speaker 1: When you put a girl in the cat, y'all have sex,
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  Speaker 1: you bought food and all that.
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  Speaker 2: That's really like trafficking. Can you pay traffic? Damn, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's I guess it becomes a slippery slow because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. I'm like, my money finances are
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  Speaker 3: involved with with trafficking. Huh, finances running right. But it's
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  Speaker 3: like it's like trafficking is like like.
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  Speaker 2: The intention to solicit sex, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So, but in the way they're like, she came over,
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  Speaker 1: you put in the game, come over with you have sex,
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  Speaker 1: you pay for now here, here's money for your head.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, you pay for it, igree what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like that we all trafficking. It's like we
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  Speaker 2: all trafficking.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, this this ship is fucked up, but
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get into this.
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  Speaker 2: This is the block. But I see you podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, fob c Up the Hood, Ray Charles Blinde,
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  Speaker 1: Poppy if you Nasty, the Voice of the Disables, the
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  Speaker 1: official Blonde Stupper. And today we don't got Wolf behind
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  Speaker 1: the camera. We got Wolf in front of the camera
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  Speaker 1: because people kept asking about this. We got wolf Tailor
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  Speaker 1: has especially. I guess today, Man, you got that crazy
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  Speaker 1: inter crazy interesting episode today, We're gonna make it big
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  Speaker 1: today because for sure, it's like current events.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I never touched current events. We're talking about current
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  Speaker 2: events here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I try not to, but you know, yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: they do what they're supposed to do though, one thousand
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  Speaker 3: per you know, so.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all know this. The producer, the engineer, he sent me
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  Speaker 1: an idea. Yes, you know, I said, we had a
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  Speaker 1: run with this one, because I mean, I've been debating
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  Speaker 1: with this ship for two weeks now, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: say names or we're just gonna give scenarios.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck it, let's let's walk. You know we're here. Let's
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: Puffy take that, take that, Let's let's let's get into
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  Speaker 1: this this this puffy whole situation. You feel me like
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  Speaker 1: I'm on both sides of the court. I look at
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  Speaker 1: this situation and what you mean you're on both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the court guilty and not guilty.
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  Speaker 3: See, the thing is, like you we don't we don't
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  Speaker 3: know all the information. But I guess that's why you're
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  Speaker 3: on both sides.
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  Speaker 1: Look, we don't know the information, right, But right now
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  Speaker 1: Puffy is guilty and to prove innocent, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know, man.
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  Speaker 3: Once that video came out about him beating the ship
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  Speaker 3: out of Cassie, I was like, I don't know, bro,
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  Speaker 3: He's not on traff Cassidy though, which is not they
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  Speaker 3: settled for that situation. He's not on traffic Cassie, right,
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that that situation even happened, because you
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  Speaker 3: see the problem is it's way beyond rumors. The video
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  Speaker 3: came out, and once that, once that video came out
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  Speaker 3: and I seen what this big ass nigga was capable of,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: Like, if he could do this.
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  Speaker 3: He guilty, wrong and everything else for that right, If
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  Speaker 3: he could do this, it's like he could do a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot of shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But then, like I said, it ain't a fair trial,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not defending Diddy. It's not a fair it's
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  Speaker 1: given defend. It's not defending. It's just like it's like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like me should I wish it's not defending Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I feel like it's he's being more beaten
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  Speaker 1: down because he's a superstar.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he is, bro, of course he is and
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  Speaker 3: on top of that, he's a black man, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so it's like, of course they want to make an
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  Speaker 3: example of him in public, because that's what they do
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  Speaker 3: to all our billionaires that are black, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean. But unfortunately, our black billionaires be into some
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  Speaker 3: freaky ship and they put they can really compromise ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: Now, look, the freaky ship. I can't speak on that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't speak on the freaky ship. The beating of Cassidy, Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: he's guilty for that, But the freaky shit, we don't
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  Speaker 1: know where these people was at, like they probably.
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  Speaker 2: Was with it. Well, this is the thing when I
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  Speaker 2: say freaky ship.
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  Speaker 3: So like, for example, you know, Diddy was close to
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  Speaker 3: Justin Bieber, so he was doing well.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying he was close.
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  Speaker 3: To Justin Justin Bieber, and there's speculation that Diddy was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, having an inappropriate relationship with Justin Ber. And
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  Speaker 3: so that's what I mean when I say, like that
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  Speaker 3: freaky ship. It's like, all right, bro, like some of
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  Speaker 3: that ship. Like if you want to listen, you want
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  Speaker 3: to get Buck Wilde and Crazy do that. You got
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  Speaker 3: a mansion, you got thousands of bottles of lubrication, or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: That's really your business for real, you know, once you
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  Speaker 3: involve like the little white children like Justin Bieber.
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  Speaker 2: All right, now look let me just say it was
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  Speaker 2: speculated that, yeah, something going on with Justin Bieber speculated? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: all right?
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  Speaker 1: Is it proof out there because you say he was
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  Speaker 1: you say you say he was some freaky ship, he
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  Speaker 1: into some freaky ship. It's speculations, so which means it's
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  Speaker 1: not no facts, none of that.
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  Speaker 2: It ain't It wasn't proven true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's true, and you know what, to be
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  Speaker 3: honest with you, I don't know if anything to be
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  Speaker 3: proven true. But the same way Bill Cosby came down,
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  Speaker 3: it's same way he went down. It's seeming very similar.
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  Speaker 3: People coming out the woodworks, people telling their.
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  Speaker 2: Stories, and it's given the same story. Bro. You know.
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  Speaker 3: So if honestly, I don't want to see a black
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  Speaker 3: man go down, just a freaky ass nigga here sixty
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  Speaker 3: nine guy, You know what I mean, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to I don't want to see him go now just
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  Speaker 3: because of that, like he like nasty shit.
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  Speaker 2: That's really a billionaire. He can do whatever the fuck
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  Speaker 2: you want to do. But if you you got money,
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  Speaker 2: you don't got to do it like that.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, but exactly, and if you're abusing your power and
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  Speaker 3: you're doing things you're not supposed to be doing, you
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  Speaker 3: gotta go down for that game.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and but but the question is is that now
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  Speaker 3: if he's guilty, right, let's get into it while we're
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  Speaker 3: here in the first place. Like, if he's guilty, then
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  Speaker 3: he deserves to everything everything that comes with that, right,
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  Speaker 3: But it's just this idea of like cancel culture. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: how do you feel about cancel culture?
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  Speaker 2: Cancel culture? I feel like.
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  Speaker 1: It's needed, But I feel like we shouldn't cancel a
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  Speaker 1: person until.
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  Speaker 2: They are proven guilty. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like right now he's on trial, he's taking
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  Speaker 1: the trial. I feel like he's guilty before proven innocence.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like the court system, the social media,
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  Speaker 1: the world already got him as guilty. Like I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't a fear, It ain't a fear hearingund feel
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  Speaker 1: shot one. He got no bell. You got people like
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  Speaker 1: Harvey Winstein and everything else that I had proof he's right.
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  Speaker 1: Gave me over seventy people. Yeah, and got a bell.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the difference from puff and then it's like,
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  Speaker 1: so I was watching and I mean, like seen on
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  Speaker 1: social media, it's like I pay no mind. But then
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  Speaker 1: when somebody was really breaking it down, it's like the
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  Speaker 1: way the Feds work. If they got to come get you,
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  Speaker 1: it's no bell, but if you turn yourself in, it's
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  Speaker 1: a bell. Puffy was in New York to turn itself
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  Speaker 1: in the next day before they came and got him.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the thing, it's like you turning yourself in.
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  Speaker 3: Why he had to turn itself in? Why because from
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  Speaker 3: the chargers you you know what I'm saying, It's like
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  Speaker 3: you're turning yourself in.
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  Speaker 2: It's like that's given. That's given. Shifty behavior, bro, not like.
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  Speaker 1: When you like people be having to turn yourself in
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  Speaker 1: and then you gotta fight.
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  Speaker 3: It to prove your innocense. If I'm manager sent, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not turning ship. I'm not turning myself in.
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  Speaker 1: But then that's you running running from somebody did do
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  Speaker 1: and that's what they that's what they want you to do.
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  Speaker 2: So now they look at you.
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  Speaker 1: When you don't turn yourself in, it's you're a flight risk.
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  Speaker 1: Puff was not a flight risk. He was running to
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  Speaker 1: turnhimself in the next day the FEDS came and ran
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  Speaker 1: in it to make it seem like he was a
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  Speaker 1: flight risk.
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  Speaker 3: The reason why he got to turn himself in is
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  Speaker 3: because he got to negotiate a deal.
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  Speaker 2: Now you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It's like I don't got to grotiate. You're fighting for yet,
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  Speaker 4: sense that don't.
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  Speaker 2: Sound like fighting for you. It's the facts, listen.
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  Speaker 3: That don't sound like fighting for your answers to me.
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  Speaker 3: But my question to you is do you think cancel
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  Speaker 3: culture is fair? And I asked that because it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, human beings do bad things sometimes all the time, right,
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  Speaker 3: but how much what you know?
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if we're ready.
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  Speaker 3: To have the conversation of like forgiveness and allowing people
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  Speaker 3: to have time. It's not a forgiveness, it's not about forgiveness.
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  Speaker 3: It's not enough forgiveness. You don't have enough grace on people.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like people also changing, Yo, come in. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know who that was. People don't have enough grace,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they don't.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's like I just want to I wonder
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  Speaker 3: and this is my question to people, like can somebody
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  Speaker 3: fuck up and then have some time to like to
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  Speaker 3: make those changes? So they could be a regular person
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  Speaker 3: again one thousand anfl So, well, it don't seem like
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  Speaker 3: it's the world.
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  Speaker 1: It depends what your fuck up was. Exactly great, pedophile,
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  Speaker 1: I can't forgive you for that. I agree, Like that's
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  Speaker 1: you're a whole different bonster.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: But putting your hands on a woman, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we should have more grace because we don't know where
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  Speaker 1: his state he was in. And I ain't making no
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  Speaker 1: no excuses. I'm just saying some people be on drugs.
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  Speaker 3: So you think the offense of putting touching children inappropriately
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  Speaker 3: is uh higher?
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  Speaker 1: There's everything above everything taking like taking a woman, innocense
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  Speaker 1: and all that shit.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: It's no coming back. You're a cancel right. I agree
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  Speaker 2: with that. Get them out of here. And if it
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  Speaker 2: comes out to say puff did it, you're canceled out
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  Speaker 2: of here. I agree with that. You're out of here.
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  Speaker 4: You you you You just took a way a kid
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  Speaker 4: or a woman.
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  Speaker 2: It ain't no coma. You're canceled. But what if it's
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: not that though? Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like, what if it's not? Because I agree with you,
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  Speaker 3: like if you put your hands on the kid. This
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: is kind of like my thing with Kanye West. Right,
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  Speaker 3: like what I've always said about Kanye. He just said
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  Speaker 3: some really wild shit, no fucking lie. But at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, can't cancel Kanye because to me, it's like, listen,
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  Speaker 3: you ain't put your hands on no kids.
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  Speaker 2: You can't put your hands on no women.
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  Speaker 3: It's his opinion, it is, and it might be bugged
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  Speaker 3: out y'all got to agree with it. But once again,
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  Speaker 3: he ain't put his hands on no kids because these
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  Speaker 3: are like the unforgivables, you know. And so if Diddy
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  Speaker 3: is not proving guilty for putting his hands on children
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  Speaker 3: or putting his hands on women, then we right, exactly exactly,
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  Speaker 3: how can you cancel exactly? And that's that's my question, Like,
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: then how can we cancel? And who decides who gets
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  Speaker 3: to be canceled and who decides what's offensive.
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  Speaker 1: People listen to the internet, That's what I feel. So
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: you feel like it's a majority rules kind of thing
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  Speaker 1: on one train go. I feel like anybody like, once
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: we introduce the idea, oh he's dead it he guilt, see,
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  Speaker 1: oh cancel him. We canceled, cancel him and he can't.
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  Speaker 1: My thing is this, you cancel puff, you gonna stop
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: listen to Biggie, You're gonna stop listening to Faith Evans,
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  Speaker 1: Carl Thomas, Mary j Blige, Jodysy. He's behind a lot
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: of people career, some of Usher. You wanna stop listening
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: to them? See the Biggie one that that's that's the one.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Nigga's not gonna stop listening to
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  Speaker 1: Big Popper all about the Benjamin's Bro Ready to Die
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  Speaker 1: Bro the album?
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  Speaker 4: Like, come on, who stopped? Who stopped listening to Mary Jodysy?
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  Speaker 2: Ship Bro?
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking like I'm an usher. It's some it's some
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  Speaker 3: serious history behind come on his hands?
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  Speaker 2: But is that?
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: But if we canceled it, it does that mean we
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: got to cancel his catalog? To see and that's what
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: people do because that's what they did to Kelly, That's
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: But how can you really cancel on Kelly? And if
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: you cancel his catalog?
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: Right, what about mister Biggs Casey and Jojo Michael Jackson.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: He wrote a lot of ship.
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  Speaker 3: But you know the thing is, I guess it's a
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: conversation about when you when we cancel people, do we
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: leave space for separating the art from the artists?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I do. I don't.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to socialize the art with the art.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: I meant the artists with the art.
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: See sometimes I do, though sometimes to me they wanted
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: the same. It gets like I've heard like certain artists
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  Speaker 3: that people really really like, and then I heard about
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  Speaker 3: some ship that they did, and I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: can't support his music.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: You start listening to I mean, you start watching different
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: world fat out the Cosby's.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: Because of who because of Cosby. I ain't gonna lie
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  Speaker 3: to you, Bro, I'm gonna just keep it honest. Like
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: Bill the Cosby Show in general, I'm I'm never gonna
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: not watch that show because of who he grew to be,
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  Speaker 3: because I genuinely feel like that contribution, that gift that
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: he gave to the world.
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  Speaker 2: Is so much more important than his fuck up.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: Like, but I can't say that for everybody, Like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if everybody's like contribution to the world is as.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's as like important.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: Especials gonna be there, you could he fat Albut that's cool,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: different world going to be there. Yeah, that one we
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: definitely Kelly, are you gonna stop listen to? My mind
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  Speaker 1: is telling me no, Kelly, I ain't gonna lie.
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  Speaker 2: I can't. I can. I can live without it because
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  Speaker 2: I don't really listen to R.
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  Speaker 3: Kelly's to be one hundred percent, and I know he's
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  Speaker 3: like a legendary, amazing artist.
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: And it's like you might not listen to R. Kelly himself,
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: but you listen to Ship he wrote.
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  Speaker 3: With no doubt because let me tell you something, Leah's
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: first album, Slap Slap Listen mister.
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  Speaker 4: Biggs, R Kelly, how May Michael Jackson, Casey and Joe George.
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  Speaker 1: I was just on TikTok and they just running through
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: R Kelly Ship that he wrote and produced. I said, damn,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't know he fuck with this song. I ain't
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: know he did this song, Kelly Price. I never knew
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: he did this song. Tell the true R Kelly, the
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: king of R and B. It wouldn't be no R
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: and B without R Kelly, it wasn't he wrote for
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, I know. So I guess the question is
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: you can cancel the artists. I don't think you cancel
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  Speaker 2: the Well, who's the real judge these days?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: And I wonder if I wonder if the influence from
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  Speaker 3: social media affects the decisions made in the courtrooms.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: I wonder. I feel like, if it is, it shouldn't
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: because like.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: Even like the Tory Lane situation, right, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: really understand that court case, like super well, so maybe
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't maybe I shouldn't be speaking on it. But
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  Speaker 3: I do think that he was proven guilty to people
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  Speaker 3: before the evidence.
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  Speaker 2: Even came out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I feel so. I mean, and he's
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: in jail, so I guess he was. He was proven guilty.
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  Speaker 3: I guess there was enough evidence to you know.
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  Speaker 1: But even with that, they say he had no gunpowder.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, it's it's yeah, it's weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird. It's like and that's what I'm saying, like
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  Speaker 2: he didn't do it. I don't know. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: I mean when I say like that.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if the Internet has the power to like
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  Speaker 3: influence what happens in the courtroom, because when you it's
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  Speaker 3: like who decides what's canceled canceled? And if it's the Internet,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: when it's like, well, who validated the internet? Like, but
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: then I guess the internet is the people, right, So
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: at the end, of the day. Like, nobody's supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be bigger than the people.
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  Speaker 1: So if the people have spoken, see, I disagree, though
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's people on the other side of
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  Speaker 1: that phone that's going way worse than these shits in.
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  Speaker 4: The Superstars is just the Superstars in front of a camera.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, what about that man that's putting that put
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: his hand on a woman, but he got something to
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  Speaker 1: say about Diddy? Yeah, but we can't have grace. We
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: don't know that man with drugs. We don't know nothing.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: Like I when he did the Cassidy it was wrong.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: But then at the end of the day, I can't
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: tell the man how to react he getting hit or
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: something different, right, Like, so I can't sit and say
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: that because if it's like that, ain't a lot See,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: no would be canceled, right Like I put my hands
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: on women when I was in a bad state in
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: my life.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: I was fucked up. I was on drugs, fucked up.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: So it's like I'm not the man to judge it
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: because it's like I asked for grace, but the ones
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: I put my hands on, I don't care about nobody. Yeah,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: so how do you feel about me? But the ones
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: I put my hands on. I asked for grace why
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I was in a bad space in my life.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: You asked for grace from who? The from them? From them?
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: But the ones I put my hands on, I don't
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: care about it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: And they forgave you, They forgive me, So I guess
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: the real question is is like I wonder if the
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Internet is capable of forgiving somebody if the victim is I'll.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Tell you, I don't care how the Internet feel, how
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: long as I make peace with that person, R cool,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: what everything else.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: It's easy for you to say that, though, but if
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: you was in a position like your power, and you
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: had like platforms that could be you could be deplatformed from,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: you might feel differently from it. And like my question
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: to the Internet is, it's like if we out here
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: canceling people, right, were so ready to cancel people because
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: it's the people's decision, right, But if the victim forgave
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: that person, I wonder if the Internet is going to
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: decide like, all right, cool, let me like lay off
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Probably not, though, but then you can.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Say say, alright, cool, the Internet the people, but you
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: gotta think about it. Right, Kelly did what he did right. Anybody,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Oh he fucked up, he did this, he did this, this,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: this right? How many people was outside that R Kelly
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: did the jails screaming free R Kelly. So it's like
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna lose people and they want to have
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that hall core fan base that's going to fuck with you.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Because same thing with Michael Jackson. I mean, all the
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: things that he was accused of. You know what I'm saying,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: people still believe. Come on, people crying and passing out.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: So it's like, oh God, and when this nigga died,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: the whole world cried.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Bro, That's what I'm saying. The whole world reigned and
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: it wasn't. It didn't come from the sky.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. And this is a person
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: that's supposed to been sleeping with boys and everything else.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: That's a fact for some ship to come out to
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: say and say the guy that was on trial that
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: say he did it, the little boy said it was
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: a lie.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: So maybe the real truth is cancer culture is really
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: not that power is not as powerful as we we
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: just give it too much attention. Maybe, yeah, you know,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: because like you're bringing up a really good point. It's
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: like when Michael Jackson was going through all that, people
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: still supported him. When r Kelly was going through that ship,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: people still supported him.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And everything else.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Like I'm saying, in the clubs, r Kelly still get
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: played in the clubs, Puffy still get play.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: So maybe cancel culture is just more so about like
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: which voice we choose to listen to cancel coasters on
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: social media, that's it.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And the people that's doing the canceling the people that
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: need to be canceled.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: The people that's doing the canceling is the people that
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: need to be canceled. Break that down for me real quick,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: because I don't think people are gonna agree with you
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: on that one.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Not everybody that's that's doing the canceling need to be cancel.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of people play apart because it's like
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: what are you doing in your personal life?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Like we can't see what you're doing. You're doing a
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: lot of shit.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Because it's like this person doing bad this then the third.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: But you could be a person that's selling cracking, coking
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and communities that's killing the community, or even worse, like
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: you could be somebody who touches somebody exactly putting your
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: hands on a woman, this then and the third. So
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it's like, exactly, you don't know what you're doing in
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: your personal life, right, so who is you?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: The sense say this person is canceled? So do you
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: think it's right for anybody to judge anybody? I don't
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: think so.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: No, unless it's rape and ship like that. I agree, bro,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like rape pediphi, it's no coming back.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: For I agree. I agree like I feel like a mother,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I got.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: A sister, I got, I got nieces, I gotta child,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: my child mother like and that man you can't.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Even shake hands after that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. Let's paint up a
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Let's paint an imaginary scenario. Let's say a man put
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: his hands on a woman, right, because I agree, like
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I think when it comes to the to the kids.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Like we all drawing that hard line, it's amits.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: But let's say a nigga just beat the dog ship
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: out of a woman like crazy, crazy crazy, like she
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: fucked up face, need to be never looked the same
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: again on some ship. But she get to a place
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: in her heart where she can forgive him.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Though do we do?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Can we get to a place where we can forgive
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: him too? I believe so, yes, because we don't know
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: what that man was going through.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: M there's a situation where he just beating on he's
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: a woman beat he that's something different opposed to a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: man that put his hands on a woman one time.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know you said, you said, we don't know
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: what he was going through, in the sense of like maybe.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if that.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say no names, but on somebody that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: took a mushroom and beat the ship out of his girl.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Damn, muster's supposed to make a nigga.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Chill out like this ain't this ain't known me him.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: So it's like he had a bad trip. I would say,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that's very okay.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Let's think of something that's a little bit more like
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: closer to reality though, because I would say that would
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: be like a uh not the majority like where he
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: beat ask.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Or whatever, because he just the angry piece of ship.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: That's something different, and that's in you, right, That's what
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: But let's say like you're going to do it again, right,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: But let's say he don't though. Let's say he like, man,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I really flipped out or I was drunk, really flipped out.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I was angry at you.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: You did some ship, but it's like, but you got
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: to a place where you forgave me, And then it's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: like the question is will the world forgive you? Because
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the thing is, it's like when the world decided to
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: cancel people, they do it out of support for the victim, right,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: but what if the victim decide that they okay to
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: let it go. So it's if the victim forgive you,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: why then we got to ask ourselves, then why are
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: we still canceling that person that they forgive that person?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: So like, what what is the cancel really about? Is
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the cancel truly about the support of the person?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Ding pictures, they smiling, they doing all of this ship.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: And they made it through that Because Chris Brown, I'm
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: still mad at him.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Chris Brown perfect example. It's like, how bro niggas would
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: not let Chris live.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Bro, He's still suffering from me, He's.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Still suffering from that situation.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Rihanna passed that. That's what I'm saying. They did a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: whole song together. Bro.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: People really be looking at Chris like, Bro, it was
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: forever ago.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: He was a kid, no matter what situation that always
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: gonna come back up. Damn, people, people can't make mistakes
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: in life. Damn, I'm people can't make mistakes in life.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And let me ask you this, speaking of Chris Brown,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: do you think reputations Do you think reputations can be
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: redeemed after somebody's been canceled? No, because Chris Brown is
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: a great example, and I think it could.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Be redeemed once the person got of you and they
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: had they're gonna stick.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: With that ship. Yeah.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if people are as committed to cancel
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: people for the right reasons or they are like they
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: like jumping on the bandwagon of being upset. I think
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: they jumping on the bandwagon like it's like I just
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: want to be upset with somebody, or it's like I
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: think sometimes respectfully, like you know, there's like misogynists out
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: here and then there's massandris out here, and I think
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: it goes both ways. But I think some like let's
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: we're talking about Chris Brown for example, right, I think
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: some of those women maybe they come from an abusive
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: household so it hit a little different for them, and
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: then something like that, and then some women just probably
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: just don't really fuck with niggas because they didn't have
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: bad experiences with men. So when they say Chris Brown,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: it's like, I can never forgive him. But it's like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: but Rihanna forgave him.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: He was young. Why can't you forgive him?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You work at Walmart, he was a kid, and work
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: at Target and not the shame nobody. But what about
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: your man that's home put like his hands inside your head?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Right? Did you cancel him? Did you leave him?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Or you just how I'm saying, he's gonna do He's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: not gonna do this no more at the time. At
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the time he keep playing his hand on you. You're
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: not gonna said, you're not gonna do this normal because
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: he loved me.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: But you know, that's the thing about women who go
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: through abutive relationships. And I think for all of us
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: that know some woman that goes through that, sometimes those
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: women they they like you said, they stay in the relationship,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: you know, they stay in it, and maybe they want
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: to cancel somebody like Chris Brown because they they see that,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: they see a situation that they wish they would have did.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of people home that can never I
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: went and took him back. I went and did this.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: But you look in the mirror, like, damn, that's me.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: This man just gave me a black eyed last week,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: right speaking on people that I don't.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Know that should be happening too. I remember, I never
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: forget I was talking to this girl. I was talking
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: to this girl and her and her nigga was like
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: going through it at the time, and she would pull
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: up on me every now and then. She was just like, hey,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: where you at, Like I'm gonna pull up on you.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I meet her in the parking lot or something like that,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: and we would just talk and now y'all rock with
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: this girl so heavy, and she was telling me about
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: all this fucked up shit that be happening to her
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: or her relationship.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Bro, she was so fine.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: And she would like show me her arms and show
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: me these bruises, and she was telling me she shoes.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Shoot, she drove a G wagon, Bro. She had told me,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: not a g wagon, but like a Mercedes that you being.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: She had told me that Like this nigga like poured
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: her out the driver's seat and she hit the back
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: of her head on the concrete.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking, like, so, why are you still
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: with this nigga cause she the bro.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: She went right back to that nigga because I'm thinking,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: this is my time, because she was fine, she was
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: fine as hell. I'm thinking, all yeah, I'm thinking you're
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: fucking with her. Yeah, come fuck with a real one nigga.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: She went back to that nigga. And don't get a twisted.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Men get abused too, of course, like they we just
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: highlight the We just highlight old women abuse.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: We never highlight the men abuse because they feel like
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: we more masculine, we're supposed to like like come on,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: like nah, it's really is that's bullshit. It's really bullshit.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Like I said, Like like I said before, you can't
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: tell the person how to react. It's men out here
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that women take it to a level where they want
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to put hands on the man and this and the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: third Sometimes men breaking hit his breaking point and then
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: that's when.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: He attacked back. It is not right by the end
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: of the day.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It's like a man calling nine one one, not now nowadays,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: cops coming to look at it like.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Like looking down on the man.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: You call nine one one for this, Oh well, trust
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and believe as soon as you call the police, regardless
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: of the scenario. You're the You're the person that's in question,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: even if you called them as a man, you know
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, I think on a subconscious level,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the police are never gonna pull up and.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Be like they're still gonna question. It's like, what's wrong
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: with her? You do? Like we're here to save her?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: She hate you?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Did you did you respond back? Did you hear miss
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: did he hate you? Like I'm the one that called
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that's true? So it's like, like, why are you asking
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that I hear or missed? What did he the You mean,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I'm the first one that got nine one one?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: But let her call?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: It's no question, y'all coming there, gloves on, ready to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: drag me the funk out or worse. See it's worse.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's bullshit. So you don't think
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a reputation can be redeemed?
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: No, do we know anybody who say who's redeemed their
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: reputation after they fucked up heavy? I mean, we could
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: look at Chris Brown like he even his reputation, but
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: but but we.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Know it's not what it once was.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like it ain't really redeemed because the tabloid
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: is always bringing it up o Chris Brown, when you hit,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: when you put his hand on pop star Rihanna, it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: not redeemed. It's gonna keep coming out.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Has anybody has a man ever redeemed his reputation after
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: like putting his hands on a woman.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Like the perfect is the me shout out to jay Z.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Look at it. Look at the elevator situation where jay
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Z and Salon? What about it when she was hitting
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: him and everything else. That's true, it wasn't bad, but
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that jay Z would have swung back much to and everything.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what it would jay Z put his hands
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: on Salon. They'll never forget it would have different, never forgiven.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You seen the whole video, this man blocking from getting hit, right,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: they make a big deal, like what they said Solon
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: is hands.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: But you know what though, let's let's let's break this
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: down real quick too, because it's interesting when you think
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: about that uh elevator footage that got leaked we and
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: then you you bring in context that Beyonce throughout the
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: album Lemonade, you kind of already assume, or you're made
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: to be believed to assume, that jay Z cheated and
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: that was the reason why Solange was taken up. Let's
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: that's what you run away, right, That's what they running
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: with because you gotta think that the Lemonade album came
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: out around this time, so then this is what they're
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: trying to This is the perception that they're trying to
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: give to people. But we never really think to ourselves, right,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: because we think, oh, jay Z cheated, he's a monster.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Solange had to defend Beyonce in her honor, this is
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: her sister.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: But we don't consider what did Beyonce do or didn't do.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying cheating is right, but what did Beyonce
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: do or didn't do that would inspire man like jay
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Z to cheat? Like, because are we just gonna just
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: believe that all he's just a dog? He an ancient nigga?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: He cheated, then could maybe it's not that simple. But
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: take it even further than that. She put her hands
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: on him, and we've seen it on video. I didn't
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: see no police come and say, oh, be picking up
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: this and taking charge of course, because he's not pressing
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: charges for one. That's what I'm saying.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: But you know, in the state, the men don't do
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: if the person, don't do it, the state can pick
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, nothing. Nobody came out and say, oh
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the cops looking for so long? She had a warrying
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: off for a rest of under that right, Jonathan Johnathan Ajors.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Look what happened in him? Yeah? True?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Everything, that's true. Though, So what's the difference between men
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and females.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: The difference is men are automatically guilty until proving innocent. Yeah,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: without trying. That's the difference. Because you like the giantan major.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: But see, the thing is like black men, I can't
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: speak for no other niggas, you know what I mean.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: So like black men, it's like they always putting themselves bro,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Not always, but these people that we speaking of, they
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: put themselves in these compromising situations, bro. Like you being
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: with this white woman, red flag number one. You know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: just to be honest with you. You you know what
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, come on, snow bunnies, you know what I mean, unite.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: But that's that's problem number one. And then too, like
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: you're telling her like you're supposed to be my corretit
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Scott King and ship like that.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, dang, that's you fucked the funk out. Bro
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: bugged the funk out for that ship. But losing everything
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: behind that ship was Corney. Nigga lost like million billion
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: dollar movie deals. Marvel dropped him, fucked up. That's just
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the biggest deal that you're probably ever gonna get. And
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want that to be true. Since then, it's like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: what's what's his next movie?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Bro, He's gonna have to becoming. He's
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: gonna have to get into independent films, got.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: To build his reputation over it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Will it ever come back? Is crazy? Will it ever
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: come back? Is crazy?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So long do a concert right now. I bet you
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: she's gonna be sold up.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I mean niggas, so I just had a whole run
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: after that. I think like she got all these albums,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: all this music, you know what I mean.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: So long you got hands That's what they say. But
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Major got canceled. He did, Bro, he showed on
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that he's running from her.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, canceled. Yeah, it's true.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Chris Brown and Rihanna was fighting.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Why O Rihanna should have kept his hands up, rob
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Rihanna put his hands on her.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they say that.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: They said Chris Brown beat the shit out all yeah,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and that's not they don't supposed to share that fifty fifty.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: So what do you think is the alternative to canceling people?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: The turning?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the alternative to canceling people? I don't feel
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: like it's nice and can't just go cancel coaches. Ship
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be going.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: So do you think that if we're not canceling people,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: do you think that we should just kind of like,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like what do we do?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: We just?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we personally, I feel like us
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: as the people put ourselves in these people problems, put
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: ourselves in these people relationships.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: So you think we too invested too invested when we
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: cancel people, we being way too invested in to investing.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: We make exception assumptions of ship that we don't fucking
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: know about, right, Like okay, cool TMC and all that
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: they caught a little footage or something, but you don't
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: know what they're working out behind closed doors.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: So like when we think about the baby, I don't
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: know why I said the baby, but the baby the
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: artist the rapper, and he got canceled because he was
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: on the stage and he said something about the LGBTQ community.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Do you think because he got.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah when he said that said, oh, we're not
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting had in the parking lot from a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: gay person.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: And I don't even remember what he said. I think
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: he mentioned something about AIDS or something like.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, I'm not somebody, I'm not catching I'm not
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: getting head in the parking line from a.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Man or something like that. I don't know. I don't know.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I remember that ship that was like rolling loud, right,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: I remember that ship.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: It's like, was that the right thing to do? Like
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: should we have canceled him? Because I guess I don't.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Feel like he should got canceled, but I felt like they,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: like his team and other people should like, nah, you
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: should never said that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: You was wrong for saying that one.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And I felt like somebody from that LGBT culture should
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: have educated him on like this, because you're gay doesn't
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: mean gonna catch it he's or nothing like that, right,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: honestly feel And on top of that, we don't know
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: what because back in the days, people say, oh, two
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: men have sex you cause.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: You know, I guess cancel when you think about the
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: power is supposed to be in the people's hands, right,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: which is why like we having all these problems with
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: the government, Like when we think about COVID and we
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: think about how the government pretty much just forced people
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: to get these vaccination shots, right, the biggest problem with
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: that is, like, the government not supposed to be bigger
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: than the people.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: So if the people, if the people.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Are saying something, you know, we not want to do it,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: you're not supposed to force us to do it. So
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: when you think about cancel culture, I guess it's really
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: like the people exercising their power at the end of
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the day, because even like with this podcast, like when
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: we think about scaling our podcasts, like your podcast, my podcast,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: we asking the people.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: To support us.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: We can't grow it without they support though, So then
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: is it not also right for them to revoke that
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: power from us if they decide we're not worthy of it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Anymore, they do whatever the fuck they want.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Look look what they did, Kyrie Irving. You don't want
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: to get this vaccine?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You can't play right, set them down? How come we
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: don't cancel the government? This ship bigger than you, No, brown,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: bigger than the government. White? How you can't cancel the niggas?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: How are we gonna do that the same way we
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: cancel everybody else, stop working with them.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and guess what they will build jails more jails
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to put our black asses on that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: They don't got enough jails. Game. Oh, they will build it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: They will, they will build it. But they need it.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: So that's the thing, Like when you think about America,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: you think about everything that that is a function of America,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: everything like jails, anything that's being funded by tax dollars.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: If the people decide that we're going a different way,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: they're gonna have to get with the program, right at
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: least in theory.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, but which way you will go? We
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: gotta we gotta work to survive. Yeah, we do gotta
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: work to provide so our households. So therefore, when you're working,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: break your back. Yeah, guess who snatch your money at
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the end of that week with that check?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uncle Sam, the government.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: So I guess people should really just find ways to
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: become more like self sustainable then, because like, let's say,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: if I wanted to go strike on strike and like
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not fucking with the government no more.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I got a garden, I got my own lamb. Like,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: so you really chickens.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: We got goats and but but where can you put
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: that shit in New York City?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Be fucked down south? You could survive out here.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: We're fucked you think so, yeah, so you think to
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: live in New York City. It's impossible to cancel the
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: government because there's no place to do it in New
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: York Who place to do it?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Can't gross ship?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: The rat's gonna tear that ship up. Where you playing
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: chickens out out here where your fum going?
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: The white people be having gardens in the back the
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: backyard of their brownstones, and ship I'll be seeing it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: My neighbor is is you know, my my brownstone is
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: connected to another one.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: So when I go outside, I have my like my
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: tea in the morning, you know what I mean. So
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: it's like you can do a little something. But it's like,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: but I don't know, But what about the person that
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: live in the projects? Exactly? What about them?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: You can't cancel the government, bro. The projects is so
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: much fucking real estate. You mean to tell me we
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: can't have a fucking garden in the projects.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And on top of that, people that's on public assistance
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: right wake food.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Stamps all that. How you cancel.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one whole time. The government keeping you safe.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: That's the biggest gang.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: The government is the only way you you you you
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: fucking sustaining right now.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: So how you canceling? You got to pay to b
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: and jail.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: So we need another option then, yeah, outside of the government.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And it's like, what's that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, people don't have programs and stuff like that,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: programs that are like oh, like because I see it
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: all the time. But I think that the thing is
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: we need we need an infrastructure and a second option
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: that's powerful enough to like really come through and shut
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: the government out at least to be able to support
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: people if they decide they want to, like they want
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: to boycott the government, right Like let's say like somebody
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: like fucking Diddy or fifty cent or somebody would all
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: this goddamn bread. Let's say like, oh, my people deciding
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: we're not we're not going for We're not, I don't know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: we boycotting the government in some kind of way. Don't
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: worry about that they try to take your jobs from y'all.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Don't worry about that. Like, I gotta I got more
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: than enough money. Everybody get a can of soup or
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: some shit like that. How long is my life as
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: long as it need to until the government decides that
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: they were until the government realized they work for us,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: not the other way around.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Gonna work? Why not they the rent as high as fuck?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: No fuck, I forgot about the red the government.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: The government is supplying programs for people to even pay
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: their rent.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: They snatched out away be fucking people.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Fifty of them.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Money ain't gonna last long to go against the government,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: and even them, even all that money, they still got
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to pay those taxes.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: The government going to eat regardless your money in the banks,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the government eating regardless.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Then it's like if the nigga's like fifty cent niggas
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: like Diddy is like, oh so that's the one who
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: helped you all, I just clip them, then.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna find some ship to take them out to.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Get boom and then it's over. New scandal news alert.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Fifty million dollars. I'm surrendering my passport, my kids, my
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: mother passports. I'm taking away my phones, y'all. Y'all monitoring
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: my visits, to monitor my phone calls and everything else.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm still bank accounts.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Is just not working out.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, froze my bank accounts. I still
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: can't get a bell.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Think about it. You got Harvey Weinstein that had them
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: all over taking it, and he got a bell.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But can can cancel culture be a good thing? Can
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: it be a good thing?
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the case of people like Harvey Weinstein, right,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: like the real monsters of the world.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, But like if you can'cel Harvey Weinstein,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: can you cancel all.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: The movies that he ever made? I don't know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: With some of his big movies, I don't even know.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know he was behind a
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: lot of some ship though. Yeah, he's behind a lot
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of ship. Can be canceled Harvey Weinstein? I mean, yeah, no,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: we could cancel him, But at the same time he's canceled, right,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein is canceled.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: But then you're gonna turn the TV on it you
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: wanna see it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: But you know what, though, when I think about like
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: you think about Boosy, right, Boosy is somebody who has
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: been very loud on the Internet, saying a lot of
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: shit that people don't like to hear. But I've never
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: seen him stop talking in comparison to the baby. He
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: set his bitch ass down, you know.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: What I mean.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: But let me take the difference between Boosy and the baby.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: What's the difference? Because I got a theory on the
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: different you can't cancel boozy Ka. Boosy is not getting
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: his money from the white man exactly. So everything is
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: everything Boosy doing is under Boosy brand. Boosy not waiting
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: for somebody to give him that check like a true boss.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So he's gonna say whatever he wants about the gay people.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: He's gonna say whatever he wants and guess what his
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: had core fans.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Going to support him. That's true on the internet.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Who the only one that speak out against people that's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: snitching people, that's going to jail and everything else besides.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Boosy, Like Boosy said, he's still gonna play r Kelly.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: He say whatever the fuck you want to say, and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: they gonna cut the They're gonna cut a clip, they're
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: gonna put it up there, and he gonna still stand
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: on it. Why because my money's not coming from that
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: white man. His liquor is one hundred percent him perfume,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: who is the Noodles Chips movies.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: He don't go to the white man for that check.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: You can't cancel Boozy.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I think that's the thing we all got to stop doing,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: like as as mellanated people in general, no matter where
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: the fuck you from Caribbean with d all, wherever the
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: fuck you from Africa, we gotta stop setting our foundations up.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: We building on a white land.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a thank you, Like our foundations are compromised
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: immediately once it's like, oh, if this person decided they
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: want to turn off my lights off, my lights is off.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: They can shut my water off. Versus you need to
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: have your ship like Boosie, where it's like, ain't no
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: shutting my water off. Now, if y'all want to leave
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: me on my island to myself, y'all want to invite
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: me to come to the playground to play no more,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: that's a whole different story.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: But I still got my ship though.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: That's why we have to create their rooms. We have
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: to create the room so.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: We can boycott the government.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know the government powerful that's it might be,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: but I feel like we are settling for the rooms
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that we are tolerated in and not settling for the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: rooms that we are created. I feel like we are
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the ones that's scared, honestly, black people. The one that's
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: canceling black people black people is the cancel culture, canceling
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the black people, the cancel culture. I feel like black
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: people don't love nothing more to see a black person
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: go down, so they could kick on Why though, because
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: we hate for somebody else.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: To have more than what we have, more than us.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein did what he did.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: You ain't see white people coming out bashing him and
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: kicking him down and all that shit.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Trump say whatever the fuck you want.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: To say, Trump, some crazy ship, Trump canceled. Trumpter says,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: some wild This man got convicted for thirty five crimes, felonies.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: He just out here.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: He's still out here free.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It's different rules for white man. Come on. Grabbing by
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the pussy cat, Yeah, that's nuts. That's nuts. Come on, bro,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: that's nuts. Come on bro. Yeah man, So what's the difference.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: What's the difference? That's a black is a black man
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: with money with power?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: It got too much power. I'm gonna take you down. Yeah, man,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you can't be at the top of that mountain. They're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: not gonna like it. Yeah, come on, God, God for
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: being knock on water.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: I hope it's not like jay Z man to too
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: much power.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Jay Z got too much power. Power, you say whatever
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the fuck you want. Do you think anybody? Do you
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: think is there anybody on earth that's not cancelable? Is
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: there anybody on earth that can't be canceled?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm? Or can we all get it?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: We all could be canceled, cut the color of a skin,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: We all could be canceled.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: For instance, the Great Lake Kobe Bryant died in the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: plane crash. Right, only thing they kept talking about, Oh
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: he Kobe Bryant sodomized that the white woman he did what?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Oh Kobe Bryan that sidermized the white woman, trying to
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: say he.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Like when he quote unquote for the rape the white
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: woman allegedly he was not found guilty for.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: We still bring it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Up, They still bringing it up. Yeah, I remember Gail. Yeah, yo, yo,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Gail King. You're a tweaked out Gail, you're tweaked out.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: If any listen, if anybody should have been canceled, it
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: should have been Gail King.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: But this she know she got a contract.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: A man, a man literally lost his life with his child,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: and we're gonna.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Bring up bringing up that ship. How this nigga no
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: hobby want Steve that. That goes back to reputation. This
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: nigga not Bill Cosby even like this, this is not that.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: But she's black, and that's to your point exactly. Black
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: people cancel black people who kicking whow.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, don't get me wrong, I feel
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: like the radios, they hear what's going on, they see
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: what's going on in the social media, they voice in
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: their platform is big, so therefore they gonna run with
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: it too.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Because then they connect me.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Oh see, oh see, that's another conversation we ain't even
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: really get into. It's like, canceling people is profitable. Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: it's profitable. It's like, yeah, like get mad at the
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: niggas because it turned. It turns into clicks on my website,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: It turned in their hits, like what're radio station? You
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: don't turn out your head niggas making a joke about Diddy.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, anytime a nigga getting canceled, if you think
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: about it, right now, everybody making content right now about
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: fucking Johnson and Johnson and lube and shit like that.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: So it's niggas that you ain't never even seen before.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: They're getting their time to shine.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: You scrulling on TikTok Lou Lou turning, Johnson and Johnson,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: turning Johnson and Johnson, Johnson and Johnson and Johnson.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: All kinds of jokes and ship like that. And it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: people who probably hitting their first reels going viral and
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: stuff like that.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: So it's like we.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Everywhere, not even parties having the party. Somebody sent me there, like,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you know, you gotta do this freak oflf be giving
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: free Johnson and Johnson, that's the name of the party.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: What the fuck be giving away free Johnson and Johnson
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: before twelve?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: What the fuck?
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: And guess what, Dashaven picked it up?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: What the fuck? And they just riding away of this ship.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: So canceling people is profitable.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Definitely profitable, whether guilty or not guilty, it's profitable.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: You're gonna talk about it like niggas just start saying
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: no Diddy out of nowhere, like that's the that's the
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: new thing.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Like look how big that shit was.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Literally, bro, they ain't lasting, they ain't take second Pauls
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: and on home No Diddy, Yeah, no.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Diddy, crazy.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Crazy, and then it's like a cool we cancel canceling people,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: But why we never canceling the parents, Like in the
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: r Kelly defense, while we didn't cancel, why the parents
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: didn't get I feel like the parents should have went
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to jail too.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I agree with that because anytime you find something like
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: terribly wrong with the child is you can trace it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Back to the parents. Not even that, did you?
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I've seen r Kelly grinding and all that, and Usher
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: dancing and all that, But y'are pushing your kids on
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: stage with these Men's true. This man got his shirt off,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: that's true. And you're pushing you to get your teenage
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: daughter on.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: The stage with this man, that's true. I didn't see.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I went that Usher concert and he said I want
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: to put my hands in places I never seen and
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: put his hands in his draws and the fucking stadium
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: went crazy.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about so?
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: You know, in America, it's a lot of things we're
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: supposed to be able to do because of the Constitution.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: It says so right, But freedom of speech, it's not true.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: It's not true say something you get canceled. How many
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: time they try to cancel Boosy for saying what he feel.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: We're staying on oh boosy hopophobic, this something that, oh
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: my daughter is, my daughter is gay.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I got a gay assistant.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: But he's saying, oh, y'all pushing these y'all pushing gay
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: onto these little kids and all that.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: You're going to cancel him for that?
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just interesting, Like how can cancer? How can
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: cancel culture be a thing? When freedom is speed?
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, but you know in these days, it ain't
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: no freedom.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: It's different reasons to cancel people, right, But like when
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: we when we decided to, like, for example, Kanye West,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: which people have been trying to cancel him for too
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: many reasons, like pick your choice, you know what I mean.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Over the last at least five years, he's had given
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: people plenty of reasons to cancel him. But it's like, listen,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I don't like everything this nigga has said, but I've
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: never felt the need to cancel Kanye though. You can't
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: cancel that mean it's like to cancel him. It's like
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I want this person off the game. I want this
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: person off the board, out of sight, out of mind.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to hear his voice. I don't
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: want you to see him, I don't want to make
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: no more money.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Then Kanye go quiet and then he come out with
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: a banging every single time, playing that shit every single time.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: So it's just like I think there should be a difference,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: like I don't necessarily have to like what somebody's saying or.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Not even that people say, oh Kanyeways been having easies
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: on their feet.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if a nigga is not using his
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: voice to incite violence or to incite like demonic things
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: like he not trying to encourage people to do evil,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: just ignore a nigga.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: That's what you gotta do. Just ignore a nigga, then
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: listen because.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: When you when you think about like, Okay, I want
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: to cancel him because I'm afraid of the consequences where
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: the consequences if people start listening to this person, that
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: person might influence other people and then it's gonna be
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: a group of people doing things that are like deemed bad.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: But the first question, the thing that's way more irrelevant
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: than that is like you said a minute ago, well,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: shouldn't we be dealing with the parents then, because if
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: the parents like your son, for example, like if I
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: raise my son the right kind of way. I don't
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: give a fuck. What no nigga out there saying my
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: son knows right, I'm wrong.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: What's name cos or not?
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: When he did that game giveaway in the city and
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: all that shit.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: People just want to cancel. You get canceled for anything.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I think people who grew up feeling powerless they like
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: to exercise the power that they never had through cancel culture.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Like put up on my social media, cancel this, this, this, this,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: this people want like like like like like comic comic,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: comic comment. Now you're feeling You're feeling love, you're feeling powerful,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: you feel you still.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Got that phone. Let me tell your phone go if
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: you want to see what it's says.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel seen. Now, you feel like a little
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: hit of dopamine. You feel important.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Now that's power. That's like.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Cancel culture is for the nigga who was getting pushed
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: in the locker rooms and now he feels like he
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: can have a voice, the voice and he can never
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: actually have in real life, in reality because he can never.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: You know, to be cool, you got to have a
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: reason to be cool. To gain respect, you got to
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: actually do things worthy of gaining respect. So if you
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: wasn't able to do that, then you don't know what
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: it feels like to be affirmed in real life in
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: a certain kind of way.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Look at the shave to shave room. You look at
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: everybody over these comings just laugh. It's like who gave you,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Who gave you power to even have an input to
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: say anything about this situation. I said, listen, okay, skip,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I don't comment. I don't even put on it like
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: oh people like in the clubs put on R Kelly.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Oh y'all playing R Kelly.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Still, I separate the art from the artists.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: So when I think about cause hold on real quick,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about us bringing up a really good point
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: that like people like Kanye West cannot be canceled, people
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: like Boosy cannot be canceled. And then it makes me think, like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: can you cancel strong people like powerful people, because like
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: you might think of like Harvey Wanstein, It's like, these
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: are powerful people, right, but clearly not powerful enough.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Like I invest, Boosy and Kanye West is two different things.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's two different cancels with them too.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: You would cancel busy. It's not gonna affect his money.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: But we show that Kyla must try to get hit
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: with the cancel and he's not a billionaire no more
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that that's true. So it's like a difference. It's like
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: you feel me. It's like they canceled it and may
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: not cancel him as a person because he's still walking
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: in the streets.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: But it hit him. It hit him hard when money wise.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Hey you you you happen to know a lot of
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: shit For a nigga who can't see for real, you
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: know a lot of ship.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: They are boosy. You can't affect Boosy, that's true. So independent,
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: he don't care to be part of nothing.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: So then in a lot of ways, then like Boosy
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: is a lot more powerful than people think that way
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: more powerful, way more power.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Bastard Pee and all of them independent, they're way more powerful.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Right, So cancel culture, you can't. Maybe cancel culture is
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: for weak people, and I mean weak as far as
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: like your position. You know what I mean, because if
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: like I can, if I can, like I gotta be honest,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: like if I if you work a job and somebody
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: can fire you, you're not in a strong position.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: But then I can't say, cause then we could go
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: back to Chris Brown and a lot of people it's
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: like it's canceled, But not for that. He gonna have
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: a sold out concert everywhere you go. He got a
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: fan base that love him, that had grace and grew up.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Do you I think he was a kid. So the
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: people that said these concerts grew up with this man.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: And we got to ask ourselves.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: We before we cancel people, before we decide to make
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: a decision that we're gonna cancel somebody, we need to
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: ask ourselves, is this person irredeemable of a second chance?
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Is this before we cancel this person?
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Am I saying?
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Am I going on record and saying this person never
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: deserves a second chance? Because if that's not what you're saying,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: then we can't cancel them. If we're saying, listen, if
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: you touch a child, no second chance, it's done for you.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see you one hundred years from now.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Don't give a fuck what you did. You could have
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: killed cancer. Cool, Thank you, take your take your ass
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: back in that hole you came from out of, because
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: that's where you deserve to be.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: But then know what and then I already don't want
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: to get into a shit it's fucked up like Keilly
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: situation you really without Kelly.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: It's not know what it is.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: It's like being in a dark I look at a
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: lot of situations different. So it's like Kelly was a
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: kid that was being molested and all that, and he
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: had nobody to help him to a point it turned
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: him into this fucking monster we see today.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely that's fucked up.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, So it was like this kid that didn't have
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the help turned into this person. And it's like, was.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: It I feel like that she was out of his control.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Nobody decides to go that deep.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Nobody like I rather look at his surface, like just
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: start Kelly.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: It's like, hold on, there's a but, like you gotta say,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: this ship, it's like a flower. Before this flower became beautiful,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: this ship started as a fucking bean se a sea.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: The roots, y'all get down to the roots of this ship.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: He was molested. It's somebody that could not read with
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: just a but it's like nobody was there to save
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: that kid. I couldn't read. No, Kels couldn't read. Kels
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: couldn't read. He wrote music off of feelings, feelings in
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: a vibe like I'm watching the ship and they like
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: how him and Michael Jackson did that ship right. He said,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: he went in the studio, no singing like this, just
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: to a point. Some of them vocals on that song
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: is r Kelly.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I said, I never knew that ship.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Life.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: He wrote that. Casey and Jojo Life, he wrote that.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: It was nobody there to save that kid. He turned
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: into the monster, and nobody chooses to go that deepened.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: And that's why cancel culture. It shouldn't. It's not a
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: power that should be given to just anybody, because we
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: need somebody to have empathy in their heart to look deeper,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: you know. And maybe if Kelly, you know, he pissing
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: on girls and he's doing all this inappropriate shiit like
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: he definitely need to be dealt with.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: But I mean, but he need help. But then he
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: needed okay, because.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: The people around should have got him help because you
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: think about it, what he went through. He grew up
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: thinking that shit was cool. So it's like bad behavior
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: taught bad behavior.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, this opens up a different discussion because now
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: this immediately makes me think about prison reform and It
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: makes me think like if if we're looking at the
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: deeper root of it, right, then we think about somebody
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: who commits a crime, right, especially nonviolent crimes. It's like,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: should we be putting people in jail for you need
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: to be in mental health when they really need education,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: maybe they need influence. Like when I think about like
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: men in the state of men in general right now,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Like a boy with a father and without a father
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: can be two very different children. He doesn't have to
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: be like, it doesn't have to mean, oh, my dad
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: wasn't here, I became a minis.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Society doesn't have to mean that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: But there's a big difference from a boy who had
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: his father in his life.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: A person that put him in jail.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Did we really see why this man keep robbing? Why
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: does kid keep robbing?
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Don't got no he don't got no support.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I would just throw him away.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: He caught one charge to some people robbed just to
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: eat that.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I got this criminal record and had nobody gonna hire
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: me because I got robbery on my fucking record.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Oh I joined the game because my house, my actual
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: family is ship and I feel invisible and they don't
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: love me.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Love on the outside.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Them niggas see me, they see my value that we
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: understand our we got inside jokes, like we support.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Each other, like I feel safe.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Everybody don't have the resources that I had, Like that
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Cosby Ship was only into a movie.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: To me.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: It was just TV. It wasn't my real life, you
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. Niggas on the block smoking grobber
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: and ship like that been my family. And then they
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: and then the niggas get caught up in some bullshit
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: and now we all going to jail, and then they
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: don't give me.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: A second chance.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: They don't even take a chance to look at well,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: my dad wasn't here and my mom working three jobs.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Or they look at it, Oh, y'all caught with his
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: gun and drugs, crack cocaine, this stand and thorough, he's
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: he's a hood loane.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Those are the tools that we're not looking at. That
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: we're not looking at that I needed to survive.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: This is why I was out here, because I had
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: hungry nights. I slept in that dog, I slept on
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that floor. I slept in them allways. We don't look
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: at that kid like that. But guess what, there's nobody
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: out there that's helping that kid either. So we're making
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: this kid even more angry, more mad that he's gonna
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: go out there, he's gonna gonna sell drugs. He's gonna
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: have to kill just to get the next man. Why
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I felt like it's not it's jobs out here, but
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like not for none the jobs really start
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: hiring after COVID because.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: They need the people to work. The government need the
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: people to work.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: And it's it's hard to get it. Nobody really speaks
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: enough about getting a job. Like sometimes all the almost
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: all the jobs I ever got, I got from somebody
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: already being on the inside. How many times I failed
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: out for full locker and I never got a job
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: at full locker. How many times I got felt like
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: I'm like foot locker sneakers cool.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: It's ain't rocket science, nigga, but they make it feel
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: like that thought. Then theyn't gotta help when it sound out,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: so I wasn't really get a chance.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Damn politics, bro, it's bullshit, It's really bullshit.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: So I just felt like this cancel class ship judgment.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I feel like it ain't.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: It ain't that because the same person you judging it,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you could be talking about somebody, Oh she's stupid, she
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: do this then and the third and I could look
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: at you like, damn, that's your life you're really talking about,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: but you just blinded to see it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: A lot of people blind to their own situation.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of people. You can see somebody else shit. Now.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I came on the podcast, I met I was wrong.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I put my hands on somebody. I said it before,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: somebody else can use my own truth against it.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: And you made it right with the person. Yeah, and
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: that's the That's the only thing.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: That I can communicate with both of them, and I'm
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: quite sure they both understand, like nah and they no,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: this was never you. I was in a fucked up
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: place and not making excuses out of it, but I
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: would have went the job behind it.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I deserved it, m M.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: But for them not to pick up the front the
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: corner on one day, know, this is not my heart,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: This s ain't me, This ain't this, ain't the person
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I fell in love with, This ain't the person I know.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: And y'all got through it, got through it. You don't
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: deserve to be joke.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: And everything else. But I don't deserve to be canceled.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: But people will canceled me buying that ship.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Literally, you could become the biggest fucking thing three years
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: from now, and then somebody will find a clear Oh
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: they're gonna bring it up and they's like this niggas trash.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: So much, it's gonna come up. Oh he was in
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: the streets once upon it all. He was addicted to pills.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Oh he I.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Remember back in the days he punched my little son
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: and he touched my son in the face.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Like, damn, you gonna ki what the fuck? That's all
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: news for real?
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Like, while we bringing up the past, even ship that
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you put on the internet as a post, people will
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: bring it up like you we can't grow right, like
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: it's it's bullshit.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess as we're wrapping this up, like I guess,
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: the question to the audience, is it's canceled culture fair?
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: And how do you feel about that? Leave your comment?
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Is it fair? I feel like it's not. And depending
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: on what it is, I feel like we gotta have
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: more grace for people. Yeah, I feel like it can
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: be fair.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: I do think that some people need to understand that
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: nobody's bigger than the program.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Some people need to be like, yeah, people like that hell, yeah,
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like some.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: People need to be like checked, you know, like because
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: people get drunk with power, and people get beside themselves
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: and they get to a place like.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: It happens with the police all the time. I feel
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: like the people that need to be canceled, we don't.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like the people that need to be part
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: of cancel coaching never do the cops killing, abusing, beaten
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: every day. That's what they go away scott free.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: They go home to their families, kiss the babies in
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: the night. Look a look at Trump, Scott free, still
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: running from president.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Like this man got thirty five felony counts guilty and
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: still running from president.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: All this energy that we give into canceling entertainers and
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: we're not canceling the people.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: If I get a feeling me I can't work in
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the airport, Yeah, I can't work in the fellow federal building.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: He can around for president. Bullshit, bullshit.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: If George Floyd wasn't on camera, it would have went
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Scott free because it would have been like, oh, it's
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: another black man, it's our word against his.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: They were still trying to fight that, you know. It
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: was like, oh he was a criminal. He had a pass.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting took this nigga's life. They bringing up he
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: was on drugs or he had drugs in his system,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: exactly out whatever, different than rest. Yeah, they say he
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: did a porno. I just got to do with him
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: dying getting murdered, not fuck dying. What dude just gotta
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: do with him getting murdered.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: That's nuts. It's bullshit.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Bro. It is the lady that got shot in the
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: face in her crib, but bowling water. But they still
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: try to find ways around this ship. Bro, man, come on,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: not for nothing. It's like it's a new time, new ever,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: new agent, and we're still in sleep North Carolina.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: They try to say, black man hung yourself.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: That black man that hang yourself on?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Bro, So the one black people kissing the black people
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: instead of cancling the ones that we.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Needed we need. Hey, bro, you cooked on that, You
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: cooked on that.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I'm decided like police abuse their power every day. They've
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: been the biggest terrorists legal And don't say, don't know
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: your ship. They're gonna get mad. They're gonna definitely what
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: don't ask no questions at all. And before we leave
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: a quick light.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: I was in the car.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Were in the cave, Me and my little brother, my
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: child's mother be in the cave. Cops pull us over.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: It's a couple of years ago. Cops pull us over
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: instead of I'm like, you pulled us over. Be in
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the back seat, right down the window, gonna say, excuse me?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Have you been smoking and drinking? I said, what are
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: you talking to? Talking to you, I'm not driving, doesn't
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: matter what the fuck I was doing? Now you They
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: didn't ask the cab now one question. It was a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: straight targeting to me. Yeah, oh, I said, what's the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: reason you're talking to me? Or we smelled marijuana when
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: y'all rode past? Whoa, the windows is up in the eggratation?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: What not? Real do you smelled? Oh? Keep get out
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: the oh get out the car? All right? Cool? This
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: is this is how we're doing it. Right.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: They don't have a female officer on the scene. See,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not searching all and this is my little brother.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: He's under age. You're not searching him. I'm his guard again,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: A right, cool, so we can step out. You're not
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: searching me? What's your preparable cause? Oh we just got
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: it a shooting? You fit the description? How the fuck
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: that I fit the description. I do you know I
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: fit the description. I'm in the cab on the opposite
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: waiting from you. Now you're not searching my pockets. Let
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: me the dispatch up, let him know, let me hit
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: the dispatcher.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Say I fit the description.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: I don't have to tell you that. I don't have
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: to let you listen to that.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Yes you do. I know my rights be going back
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: and forth, back and forth. You can put me in here.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I got a big ass lawsuit coming there. You're abusing
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: your power. Abusing your power.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Just like if the person give you the race to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: search their car, I do not give you the race
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: to search me. It's a big difference. Like I didn't
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: see both sides of this shit. E MT. They pulled
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: me over.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I showed them my Oh okay, buddy, have a nice day,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: drop safe, be careful out here. Put what you pulled
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: me over for.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they pulled niggas over. I remember one time I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: was leaving the grocery store with my mom who was
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: leaving the grocery store bro who was in a rental car,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: I think, and cops pulled us up. We was right
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: by the crib, literally like two seconds away. From the crib,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: so they pulled us over. I think my mom was driving.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Was my mom driving? My mom was.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Driving, and they asked me for my ID and I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: didn't have ID at the time. That's what it was,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: you know, I was always losing ideas like that, you
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: hadn't got a replace yet. And they pulled me out
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: the car and sat me on the curb, car full
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: of groceries, and they one officer had pulled us over,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: and then another squad car came and all these niggas
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: is outside.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: And it just kind of got me on the curb
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: just chilling. I'm just like, what's going on?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Bro?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I can literally see the crib from where I'm at.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: We that close, and my mom just in the driver seat.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: And then there was like, you know, you're good, everything straight.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: And I don't remember exactly what his reason was, if
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: he even gave us an explanation with this reason, but
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: this is just a crazy abusive power. Let me tell
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: you about one more story. One time I was leaving
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: my homie crib. It's like two three o'clock in the morning.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: I lived like fifteen minutes from his crib Dallas. You know,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: two three'clock in the morning. It's no cars out, bro,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: it's quiet, silent, very peaceful, and shout out to my
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: homie soup man. At the time, he was with me,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: so he could, you know, thank god he was there.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I was walking past. I was crossing the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: street and a squad car had passed, no lights on.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: They just driving right, mind and they've been to someone
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: in mind then they and then they double back and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: they come and pull up, pull up beside me.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile I'm walking, bro, and damn you know. This happened
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: a while ago, so I don't got all the details,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: but he he.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Told me that he was pulling me over while I
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: was on foot, which is insane, right, And he was like,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, why are you pulling me over? He
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: was like, well, you cross the street without waiting for
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: the uh you know, for the for the walks on,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Like you could get hurt.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: This is what he said.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I could get hurt. It's three o'clock in
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: the morning. You don't only car on the streets. You
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: only car on the streets. So anyway, he was like,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: what's in your backpack? I was like nothing, there's literally
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: nothing in here. And he was like, well, you know,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: you give you permission to search it or whatever. I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: was like, no, it's like, there's literally nothing in the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: fucking bag. Nigga took the bag, put me on the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: hood of the car. My man's just watching this shit,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, he just watching it because
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: he don't know what to do and to be you know,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: to be fair. He's not necessarily aggressive type, you know
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: what I mean. He's more like softened nature. So take
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: my bag, grummaging through my ship.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck like this? Like, Bro, I'm
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: like a kid. Bro, I'm literally like a kid. You
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: see it in mind? You know, bro, youth you know,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: do you know the youth in the face.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Bro?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: And then as the nigga got me on the hood,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: it's too office. It's a white dude and the black dude.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: I look to the black dude, I say, why are
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: you letting him do.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: This to me?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: You know, just trying to find some ount of like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: community in this black man, right Like why I'm asking
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: him like on some soul ship, like why are you
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: letting him do this to me?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: And I don't remember his response exactly. Put that gang.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: I remember his response exactly, but he was like, he
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: was like, shut the fuck up or something like that,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: like you think you're smart, guy, some shut.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Up or whatever. And I was like, say less, gang,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: say less.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And I definitely want to do an INTERVW with cops
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: because I aint gonna lie me personalating as fuck.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I don't like cops. I don't like cops. And if
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: we're just keeping it a stack, I'm keeping a round.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not power I had.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I ran into so many different situations with cops and
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it's like the abuse the power.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: And I met some good cars before. Not all cops
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: is not bad, for sure, but the ones that fuck
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: up is a collective wow.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Because it's like I not all black people is bad,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: but y'all look at us all the same. So why
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: we can't look at y'all all the same. I don't
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: walk down the street with my son and they cut
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: us off. I'm like, Yo, you almost fucking hit us, bro.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: He said, Oh, we got a call.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: What's the call?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: You dragging us a little boy up the block. So
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: you're trying to say I'm fucking kidnapping my son. Oh
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: excuse me, little man, Are you okay? You don't got
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: the right to talk to my fucking son. Bro, What
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you mean they said, you dragging him? I'm fucking dragging
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: him on holding on to him. What's the difference. I'm like,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I'm dragging him. I said, when you say, you don't
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: think he would have fucking ring because he feels safe.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Because y'all here, they still arguing, I put my son.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I said, at this point, I'm.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Ready to die today. Y'all not gonna keep abusing me.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: He gonna say, oh, you want to be an asshole. No,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: you the fucking asshole. I'm like, nigga, this is my child,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: right and he's helping his assistant.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: This is my child. Why are you he gonna say,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: that's your child? Why are you holding on to him?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: What the fuck he could?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I said, just because your mother for a sucking dick
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: and not loving you enough. Nigga, don't take it out
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: on me all right? Haven at night?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you was ready to go. I was ready to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: go all the way. I was ready to run lawsuit.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I ate cops. I don't have cops put their hands
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: in my drawers.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Yo, what are you doing? We could do whatever the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: fuck we want.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: That's what you told me, my man like yo, Chris Yo.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Just let him do it, nigga.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: He could grab your dick, you ain't grab it on
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: my nigga. I'm ready to go. The old lady outside.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: She said, I'm recording the baby because I'm like Once
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: he realized he's not stronger.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Than me, I said, you're not stronger than me. What
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: are you doing?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: He said, we can do whatever you want. You can't
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: go in my pockets. You damn sure can't grab my dick.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: You gat nigga.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I could do whatever I want me tussling on the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: car to a point. Take him in to bad let
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: me see if he got warrants. So I'm gonna warrants. Oh,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: running ain't worldwide.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'm sitting up there. I'm just jeming.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: I ain't sitt in the car. So y'all, y'all won't run, okay. Cool.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: He came back. He said, you're lucky your name didn't
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: come back, but we're gonna get you some. So thank you.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: We drove off. That'sai Ya. Don't got nothing better to do.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: It's people up here getting shot, and you worry about me.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worry about you. I want you all right.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: Cool?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: You good. That's why I need to do a podcast
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: with the cops. We're gonna do it, man, I want
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: to talk to the cops. We're gonna do it.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: But another episode of The blond and I see podcasts.
• 1:08:33
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• 1:08:38
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• 1:08:40
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• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify. Wolf Taylor, Man, I'm somewhere
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: on the internet talking about podcast going viral.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna I send them discussions. I'll be home.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: He sent up there, like, damn, I need to be
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I wish I could jump through the motherfucking phone and
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: talk about shit something.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Discussion you want, Bro, It's time. It's definitely time. Yeah,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: T beat you to it. She got the exclusive exclusive
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: she did. Shout out to T Man, shout yeah.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: The locals did an incredible episode. The clips are doing
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: really well. People really resonating with the clips, which is amazing.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just glad your story being told. Bro, listen, no
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: matter what platform it's on, you know you got a
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: great Definitely, you got a great message. And I think
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: people need to I think when people hear you speak,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna realize that, like you know.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: They got a lot to be thankful for. You know
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: The voice, the voice, bro Ted talk, come higher at me.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: I got a Sturrey to tell on.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: That's definitely happening.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: With the Ted talk, Like stop playing, man, y'all missing
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: you know what else?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: My fury? Where you at? Bro check in? Like, come
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: on now, what's and what's that ship called street hip hop? Anonymous?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, holler at me. I got a story.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: I'll be looking at your stories. I was just talking
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: part today too. He was just here earlier. Yeah, smart,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: yeah he was. You know he was on Trappers Anonymous. Yeah,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: I know, I seen that. That's my guy. Like I
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: did the research on we can get a connect to
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: something like yeah nah, we.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Definitely need that, definitely need that. But and this Friday
• 1:10:16
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• 1:10:19
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