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History Between Jaguars and Steelers | Jaguars Reporters · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Jaguars Reporters podcast, taking Shadwick,
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  Speaker 1: John Osier, Brian Sexton, Kyle Stevens. After a many bye weekend,
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  Speaker 1: it's onto Steelers Week Week eight the Jaguars in five
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  Speaker 1: and two. They've won four straight games in four different stadiums,
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  Speaker 1: in seven different time zones in nineteen days. Kai and Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a rest is needed before this game coming up this week.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nice little rest and then it's just one
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  Speaker 2: game and then it's the bye week. So you've gotten
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  Speaker 2: through that really tough gauntlet. Doug Peterson talked about it postgame.
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  Speaker 2: Christian Kirk alluded to the fact that this back end
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  Speaker 2: of it, of those four games, have been about as
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  Speaker 2: good as we've seen of this team, and they still
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  Speaker 2: haven't hit their stride yet. So it has to be
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  Speaker 2: encouraging for you to see teams finding ways to win.
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  Speaker 2: But they still have a lot of things they need
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  Speaker 2: to work on, so they should be better even than
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  Speaker 2: what we've seen so far.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they have set themselves up nicely. They can set
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  Speaker 3: themselves up really nicely if they beat the Steelers. Even
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  Speaker 3: if they don't, they're set up nicely for the second
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  Speaker 3: half the season. I've been saying all weekend, this is
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  Speaker 3: where you wanted to be if you're a Jags fan
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  Speaker 3: for fifteen years through suffering. This is what building toward
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  Speaker 3: a playoff push looks like. Winning the way they are
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  Speaker 3: and it's all out in front.
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  Speaker 4: Of them, right, JP, you mentioned four cities, three stadiums.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wait, four stadiums. Yeah, let me get this right.
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  Speaker 4: Four stadiums, three cities, two continents, six time zones, thirteen
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  Speaker 4: fourteen days between three games, nineteen games for all four
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  Speaker 4: I think when you look at it, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: look back at this stretch, this challenging stretch, unprecedented a
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  Speaker 4: stretch of schedule, and say this is where the growth began.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone wanted them to pick up this season where they
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  Speaker 4: left off last season. But if you really recall last season,
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  Speaker 4: they weren't well on people out, they were winning at
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  Speaker 4: the end, they had to find a way to win
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  Speaker 4: at the end. So now, all of a sudden, I think,
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  Speaker 4: as John has pointed out a couple of times, that
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  Speaker 4: you have a team that hasn't trailed in the second
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  Speaker 4: half of any of these four I think we'll look
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  Speaker 4: at this stretch as being the defining stretch of this
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  Speaker 4: season and maybe of the Trevor Lawrence era. Maybe this
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  Speaker 4: is where it all kind of gets going.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the beginning now coming off this many
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  Speaker 1: by and then the Steeler game, and then of course
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  Speaker 1: the bye week, the full bye week. There's been some
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  Speaker 1: guys on the injury report early in this season and
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  Speaker 1: they really haven't had their full arsenal out there, certainly
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive side as of late. And if they
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  Speaker 1: get those guys back in the next week or two,
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  Speaker 1: then we might actually begin to see the offense that
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  Speaker 1: we expected early in the season.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Walker little Way, what was the eight plays with
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  Speaker 4: him and Cam next to each other, and they went
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  Speaker 4: right down the field. Walker little and z A. Jones
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  Speaker 4: certainly helped the offense. We've seen Dwance Moot make plays
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  Speaker 4: in the two games that he's appeared in, and you
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  Speaker 4: could get Devon Hamilton back. I don't know whether he's
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  Speaker 4: back this week or but certainly by San Francisco. I
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  Speaker 4: think the biggest part is is that Doug had about
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  Speaker 4: five days here from the end of the Saints game
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  Speaker 4: until Wednesday when they get on the practice field for
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  Speaker 4: guys to rest and get ready, and then you have
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  Speaker 4: a couple of days of work and then you have
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  Speaker 4: seven more days. One game in twenty three days is
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  Speaker 4: a real benefit to this team. It sets them up
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  Speaker 4: heading into the second half of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, two have won these games without Zay and Walker
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  Speaker 3: on the field is pretty significant.
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  Speaker 5: I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think Zay quietly has become uber important to this offense.
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  Speaker 3: The third down stat which Brian knows better than I do,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not great, becomes much better with him on
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  Speaker 3: the field. They really rely on him in those big situations.
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  Speaker 3: Were talking to Evin Ingram in London and him saying,
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  Speaker 3: Zay's our most reliable target on third down. He matters
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  Speaker 3: a great deal in that. So do they become great
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  Speaker 3: with him on the field. They've become a lot better.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 4: The only game really where you've been over fifty percent
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  Speaker 4: in third downs he was a big part of it
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  Speaker 4: against the against the Ravens, right, not the Ravens against
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  Speaker 4: the Bills. They were Yeah, they were ten of eighteen
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  Speaker 4: that day. Yeah, and I'm trying to remember he played
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  Speaker 4: opening Day, then he didn't. He missed a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 4: came back and a half games.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So the only time you've really had him on
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  Speaker 4: the field here since opening day. He was a big
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  Speaker 4: part of fifty percent plus on third down. You saw
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  Speaker 4: how they struggled on third down in New Orleans last week.
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  Speaker 4: It really is the bugaboo. I mean, it's it's it's
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  Speaker 4: killing them. They didn't have a drive longer than three
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  Speaker 4: minutes from the first drive of the second quarter on
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  Speaker 4: to the rest of the game. You can't expect your
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  Speaker 4: defense to play that high level forever. They need Za Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Back and if they get in back Ky that all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden can open up Ridley again. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they doubled up Ridley last week. He was quiet on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday in the super Dome. But that's what this offense
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  Speaker 1: was built to be. All those receivers that tied end
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  Speaker 1: the running game, then all of a sudden, Ridley's running
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  Speaker 1: wild again.
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  Speaker 2: It's important to remember that too, because I know everyone's mad,
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  Speaker 2: why didn't they throw it to Calvin? And we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about this at nausea and when everybody's healthy, there are
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  Speaker 2: a ton of weapons on this offense. So it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a different player in every single game. And
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  Speaker 2: Calvin's had two of those games where he was the
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  Speaker 2: main guy maybe more so to say, hey, they're not
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  Speaker 2: throwing to Calvin. It's not always going to be Calvin.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's somebody else, and you know, Christian coming up
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  Speaker 2: with that huge play, or whoever it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: on offense. It'll be different every single week.
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  Speaker 3: You know. And I love JP. I love the voice
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  Speaker 3: of the people.
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  Speaker 5: I know you do because.
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  Speaker 3: Here's was the gist of the inbox for two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Oh they're forcing the ball to Calvin too much. That's
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  Speaker 3: what's wrong with the offense. Well, now they win a
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  Speaker 3: game on Thursday where Trevor clearly let the offense come
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  Speaker 3: to him organically, didn't force the ball to Calvin. You
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  Speaker 3: should force the ball to Calvin. JP, Well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I do think within that stream the offense is better.
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  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks talks with all the time. The offense is better.
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  Speaker 3: This offense is designed to let the quarterback make his
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  Speaker 3: decisions organically. I do think that Trevor is still trying
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  Speaker 3: to find that balance, and I think it is finding
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  Speaker 3: it better now. May take even take Cobbis whin day
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  Speaker 3: comes back to fully find the flow of getting to
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  Speaker 3: each guy the right amount. But even when that happens,
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  Speaker 3: there's gonna be a game. One of these guys is
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  Speaker 3: going to get left out of the mix in most
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  Speaker 3: games because you're not gonna throw enough to have them
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  Speaker 3: all targeted eight times.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And part of the game on Thursday, obviously, the
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  Speaker 1: big part of the game was the jury to the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback and the way they had to call it with
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  Speaker 1: the left knee of Trevor Lawrence and get it out
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  Speaker 1: of his hands fast and no time to really look
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  Speaker 1: around down the field.
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  Speaker 3: My favorite question Brian the other day was leading to
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  Speaker 3: the game, what he gonna play? Was gonna play for
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  Speaker 3: the game? I must have got twenty five million US?
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  Speaker 3: What's wrong with Trevor Lawrence? It was hurt, That's what's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody was hiding it.
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  Speaker 4: No, he had a price and he ran for fifty
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  Speaker 4: nine yards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Trevor, well they won four straight games.
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  Speaker 3: You're five and two.
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  Speaker 4: Mix in, mix in the Travis Etn is now the
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  Speaker 4: first player in Jaguars's history to have two or more
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  Speaker 4: touchdowns in three consecutive games. And it's gonna be hard
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  Speaker 4: to get the ball to Kirk and Jones and Ingram
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  Speaker 4: and Etn and Ridley. You're just someone's been left out already.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it was Kirk on opening Day, it was
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  Speaker 4: Ridley last week. Who cares if you win? And at
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  Speaker 4: least in the preseason, that was what all those guys said.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't care as long as they won.
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  Speaker 2: It feels very homey to me. I feel in the Northeast.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody complains about everything, but they'll defend them to the death,
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  Speaker 2: because you'll go on Twitter and defend Trevor Lawrence but
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  Speaker 2: then secretly be right to John and be mad about
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  Speaker 2: you know, we can be mad at him, but you
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  Speaker 2: guys can't be mad at him. So I love it.
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  Speaker 5: You can't do that.
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  Speaker 4: Darklg is only week do that Arnes in movies.
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  Speaker 5: We're back in a moment.
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  Speaker 6: We'll look ahead to the Jaguars and the Steelers in
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  Speaker 6: Week eight. It's Jaguars Reporters. Welcome back to the Jaguars
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  Speaker 6: Reporters podcast. JP Shadwick, Kis Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier.
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  Speaker 6: The Jaguars at five and two headed to Pittsburgh, a
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  Speaker 6: place they know well and they've performed well in recent
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  Speaker 6: history against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team that has h well,
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  Speaker 6: you know what, the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to be.
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  Speaker 1: They've always been great defense. They've got a young quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: but they are still Brian the Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: And well and watching their game against the Rams, they
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  Speaker 4: obviously played great defense. However, they ran the ball well, right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you saw Naji Harris who was controlling between
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  Speaker 4: the tackles for them, which set up Deontay Johnson's return.
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  Speaker 4: So they're going to run the ball and you just
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  Speaker 4: better be ready for it. Jaguars appeared to be ready
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  Speaker 4: to take on any running game in the league. They're
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  Speaker 4: going to send TJ. Watt after your quarterback, right, and
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  Speaker 4: he might be the best defensive player in the league
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  Speaker 4: right now, you know how they like to play. As
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned, the Jaguars have done well in their history
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  Speaker 4: against the Steelers.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're a better team than this Pittsburgh team.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that the Pittsburgh Steelers are. They're good.
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  Speaker 4: They're four and three, but they don't look Steeler good
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  Speaker 4: right where you'd go in and know that they were
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  Speaker 4: better than you on both lines, that they could run
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  Speaker 4: the ball and you were going to hold on to
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  Speaker 4: try to stop them. They look to me like a
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  Speaker 4: team that can be had.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're good. I mean, I agree with Brian, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they're an elite team this year, but I
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  Speaker 3: think they're sort of Jaguars light this year, meaning I
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  Speaker 3: think I think the Jaguars overall are a better team
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  Speaker 3: and will finish with a slightly better record than the Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: And that's just trying to get objectively the playoff team last.
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  Speaker 5: Year or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But they both sort of play similarly in that the Steelers,
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  Speaker 3: the reason they're four and two, I think it is
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  Speaker 3: because they had to buy they're good because they sort
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  Speaker 3: of believe that if they hang around in a game
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  Speaker 3: that they'll eventually figure out a way to win it.
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  Speaker 3: So they're making big plays a big moments to win games. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of what the Jaguars are. So if you
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  Speaker 3: don't put this Steelers team away in the first half,
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  Speaker 3: when they've played poorly in the first half so far
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  Speaker 3: this year and playing great in the second half, if
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  Speaker 3: you don't put them away, they're gonna come back on
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  Speaker 3: you and it's going to be a four point game
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  Speaker 3: with two minutes to go. I think it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be close, and it'll be whoever makes play at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's they both have a similarity in the
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  Speaker 2: sense that makes it tricky for their opponent because you
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  Speaker 2: don't know what team you're going to get when they
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  Speaker 2: go out on the field, and that bodes well for
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars, has bode well for them so far because
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  Speaker 2: it feels like they've kind of surprised some of the
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  Speaker 2: teams they've played against, And I think that's the Steelers
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  Speaker 2: thing for me is like sometimes from what I've seen
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  Speaker 2: of them, they look great, and then sometimes I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: that is embarrassing. So what we get when we go
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  Speaker 2: up there will be interesting. I think the environments not
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  Speaker 2: as scary as it used to be, so I think
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  Speaker 2: sometimes that can take you out of things. They were
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  Speaker 2: very fortunate to kind of get ahead early in the
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  Speaker 2: Superdome and take the crowd out of that, because that
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  Speaker 2: could have been a big factor for them going in
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  Speaker 2: because that's a that's a tough environment. So I think
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  Speaker 2: if they can do something similar on the road in Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 2: that will help them out a lot. And then I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, whatever it takes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Steelers have been phenomenally slow starting the stats on
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  Speaker 3: Kenny Pikett, how much better he is in the second
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  Speaker 3: half than the first are are staggering. I I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the ja always have a chance to get up in
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  Speaker 3: this game. And but you know, I don't necessarily think
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  Speaker 3: that the Steelers are eighteen that you're going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to put away for midweight.
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  Speaker 4: Well, because they have explosive playmakers, right. I mean we
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  Speaker 4: mentioned George Pickens and what a mismatch. He is physically
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  Speaker 4: so tall and so long. I don't know whether you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have Tyson Campbell back or not, but whoever's on
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  Speaker 4: him is going to have a really long day. And
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  Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson looked explosive in La on Sunday and I
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  Speaker 4: just mentioned but with Naji Harris, I mean he looked
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  Speaker 4: like the guy that we watched at Alabama. And then
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  Speaker 4: of course on defense TJ.
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  Speaker 5: Watts.
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  Speaker 4: So they've got the kind of game changers that can
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  Speaker 4: flip the game on you fast.
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  Speaker 5: I know you all like history, Kydie like history.
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  Speaker 1: I do know that.
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  Speaker 5: I mean we haven't talked about fact, hey, but how
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  Speaker 5: about this fun fact.
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  Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety nine, the Jaguars have played nine games,
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  Speaker 1: including playoff games, in Pittsburgh. They've won seven of them.
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  Speaker 1: Seven of the last nine trips to Pittsburgh for the
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  Speaker 1: Jags overall have been wins, including, of course, the playoff game,
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  Speaker 1: the divisional playoff after the seventeen season, the regular season game.
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  Speaker 1: The last time the Steelers won in Pittsburgh against the
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  Speaker 1: Jags twenty eleven, yep, and the other time was two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and one.
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  Speaker 4: So Elvis Joseph fumbled on the one yard line that
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  Speaker 4: the Jaguars would have won that one too, you go.
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  Speaker 5: So it's been a place that the Jaguars have had success.
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  Speaker 1: That's a long time ago ninety nine, but hey, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it takes.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty four years, come on.
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  Speaker 5: Been a long time since twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, let's make some new history this week,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Steelers coming up. Ky Stevens, Brian Sexton,
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  Speaker 1: John Ozer, I'm JP Shadrick, and this this Jaguars Reporters