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Countdown to the New NFL League Year | Huddle Up: Wednesday, March 15 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: The fields. Honor Broup proudly presents Huddle Ups with Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, John Oser, and NFL Network analyst and
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  Speaker 1: former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on your
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville jack Wars. We've got to look to the draft,
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  Speaker 1: We've got to look to developing the guys that are
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  Speaker 1: currently here and obviously reten as many of these guys
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  Speaker 1: as we can. Huddle Up With Bucky Brooks starts right now.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, March fifteenth.
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadrick with NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks, Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 1: Com senior writer John Oser. Give us a listen on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast page at Jaguars dot com or as you like,
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  Speaker 1: we are doing right now the official Jaguars Podcast network
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  Speaker 1: that's on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever else you download
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  Speaker 1: your podcasts. And here we are just hours away as
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  Speaker 1: we record this from the start of the league year.
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  Speaker 1: The ball drops at four o'clock Eastern time, Wednesday the fifteenth,
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  Speaker 1: that's today. You know a lot of news already coming
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  Speaker 1: out Bucky. That's how it works in the negotiation window,
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  Speaker 1: and it'll become all official after four o'clock today. Yeah, now,
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  Speaker 1: let's uh. It's kind of crazy watching it all take place,
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  Speaker 1: like all of the unofficial deals that have hit the market.
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  Speaker 1: But one thing that we know is when the league
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  Speaker 1: year starts, everything will be fast and furious, not only
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  Speaker 1: with the signings that we've heard about, but then when
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  Speaker 1: guys have an opportunity to visit of the teams, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see a flew, a flew of signings coming. Shortly thereafter,
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  Speaker 1: I see some angks j from it from whom they're
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter among the readers and yo uh to refresh,
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  Speaker 1: it's reported that Joan Taylor is signing with the Kanzi Chiefs. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's reported that arden Key is signing with the Tennessee Titans. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Man hurts to the Broncos. So we can go
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  Speaker 1: through each one. But none of these to me are surprising,
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  Speaker 1: and the approach isn't surprised. I'm getting emails from people saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: they're getting complacent. They're not doing this, they're not doing that.
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  Speaker 1: This was the plan. This isn't complacency. This is trying
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  Speaker 1: to get the cap in order. And again it goes
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  Speaker 1: back to you had to spend a lot in the
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  Speaker 1: last two or three years, particularly last two years, to
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  Speaker 1: get the team to a point where it could do
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  Speaker 1: what it did last year. It had to get back
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  Speaker 1: afloat from a very very dark place, a very deep
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  Speaker 1: place in the ocean. So you had to do what
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  Speaker 1: you did last year. And now once you've done that,
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  Speaker 1: you have to get yourself back into a situation where
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  Speaker 1: you can stay afloat. You can't participate huge and free
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  Speaker 1: agency this year and think that you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: sink at some point. You have to get yourself back
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  Speaker 1: to a place where you can manage the cap over
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  Speaker 1: the long term. And there are a few hard to
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  Speaker 1: sit but I don't think they're brutally hard decisions, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they were prepared for him. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: the thing about it that I would worry about, like
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  Speaker 1: Taylor and Key if they both left. Both of those
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  Speaker 1: guys appear to be like blue guys. And so when
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  Speaker 1: you think about what arden Key means to the defense
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  Speaker 1: and the mentorship and just the versatility that he provided
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  Speaker 1: and how he filled in with whatever role was needed,
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  Speaker 1: that utility present will be missed with him departing and
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  Speaker 1: going to Tennessee. If he kind of follows through on
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  Speaker 1: his plan. Juan Taylor is difficult because if a draft
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  Speaker 1: and developed guy, someone you drafted, someone you developed to
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  Speaker 1: a point where you started at right tackle, and now
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  Speaker 1: another team coverts him as they left tackle. You hate
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  Speaker 1: to lose those guys, and so it just puts more
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  Speaker 1: pressure on the front office and coaches to identify the
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  Speaker 1: right fit and then to make sure that they developed
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  Speaker 1: those fits so they can become contributing players for the
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  Speaker 1: long term. Here's my thing with arden Key Bucky. I
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  Speaker 1: love Art, I mean I got to know him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit last year. Really like the guy, and I
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  Speaker 1: completely agree with you that he was key to what
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  Speaker 1: they were last year with some leadership, with some big plays.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, you're supposed to be able to
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  Speaker 1: add that. You're supposed to be able to go find
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  Speaker 1: that as well. It's a league of transition. It's a
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  Speaker 1: league where you have roster churn. He was he was
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  Speaker 1: a one year guy. You're supposed to be able to
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  Speaker 1: go get another one year guy or a young guy
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  Speaker 1: to replace that. You're not going to keep the same
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  Speaker 1: you know, fifteen key guys on your roster every year.
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  Speaker 1: This is part of the churn, and he's an example
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  Speaker 1: of a guy to me that you should be able
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  Speaker 1: to replace. I'm not saying it's not I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that it didn't have to be done, but you should
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  Speaker 1: be able to do it. He's not a ten sack guy, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a four and a half five sack guy.
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  Speaker 1: Bucky and those guys in theory you can go find
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  Speaker 1: in the offseason. In theory, you should be able to
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  Speaker 1: go find those, But I will say in reality it
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  Speaker 1: puts more pressure on Trayvon Walker, Devin Lloyd and some
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  Speaker 1: of the other young guys that have shocked potential to
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  Speaker 1: step up and do those things. The reason why I
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  Speaker 1: say his versatility might be misses because it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: find an outside inside player, meaning someone who is just
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  Speaker 1: as comfortable standing up and playing outside as he is
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  Speaker 1: putting his hand in the dirt and being a three
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  Speaker 1: or five technique, which is what Art and Key was
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  Speaker 1: able to do. And so yes, we can go to
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  Speaker 1: Oprah Marketing and find those guys, but sometimes there's something
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  Speaker 1: to be said for the chemistry and rapport that a
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  Speaker 1: veteran brings. Now, it comes at a price, and you're
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  Speaker 1: hoping that you can find the right guys the right
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  Speaker 1: price point, like he did with Art and Key. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying I wouldn't necessarily say that he is the
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  Speaker 1: most easily replaced veteran that we have. There are other
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  Speaker 1: guys don't say always easy to replace what they have.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a little different in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: he brought to the team and the position that he played.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely agree it's difficult to replace. I would say
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  Speaker 1: this to your first point, Bucky, You're exactly right that
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  Speaker 1: it puts pressure on Devin Lloyd Trayvon Walker to a degree.
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  Speaker 1: Chad Muma. That kind of goes back to the point
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  Speaker 1: I've been hitting all off season. When you draft in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two guys in the first round, they're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to have pressure in the second year to perform. They're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be the core of the defense this year.
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  Speaker 1: So it's absolutely a test to that. If if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be a draft and developed team, you signed
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  Speaker 1: Arden Key on a one year deal basically to get
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  Speaker 1: you through this year until you got to Trayvon Walker
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  Speaker 1: and Devin Lloyd as mature second year players, is there
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  Speaker 1: pressure on those guys, Absolutely, because they need to be
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  Speaker 1: the core of the defense this year. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. When you grant a guy, you
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  Speaker 1: take him in the first round, and one has to
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  Speaker 1: understand that you give a guy a first round grade
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  Speaker 1: because the expectation is he is to be a starter
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  Speaker 1: and a core player of your team by the end
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  Speaker 1: of year one, definitely in year two. So the pressure
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  Speaker 1: is definitely on Devon Walker, Devin Lloyd, Chad Movement to
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  Speaker 1: a lesser degree, those guys have to be core players,
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  Speaker 1: part of a nucleu. This serves as the foundation for
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  Speaker 1: what is a playoff team. This the Huddle Up Podcast, Jape, Shadick,
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  Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, John Osier. Now to replacing some of these players.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars are losing a swing tackle. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: Walker little obviously can can play both sides, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you just insert him on the right side. Cam
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  Speaker 1: Robinson's on the left side. So what's the answer at
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  Speaker 1: swing tackle? What's the answer at big blocking tight end?
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  Speaker 1: With Chris Manhertz now headed to the Broncos. And of
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  Speaker 1: course we've just mentioned the defensive line a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: So is this you know, this could be second third
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  Speaker 1: to your free agency, Buckie or drafts and develop. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of where they are right now to
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  Speaker 1: fill those roles. Yeah, so I would say that's Chris
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  Speaker 1: Manhurst in the tight end position that is easily replaced
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  Speaker 1: in the draft. This draft class is loaded at tight end.
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  Speaker 1: Man You may have eleven tight ends that come off
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  Speaker 1: the board in the first three rounds or guys in
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  Speaker 1: the carry top three round grade. Swing tackle is a
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  Speaker 1: little different, and when you think about your offensive line,
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  Speaker 1: you're trying not to necessarily upset the apple cart. Because
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson has been so comfortable at left tackle, it
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  Speaker 1: is easier to put the pressure on Walker little figure
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  Speaker 1: out how to play right tackle and be good at that.
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  Speaker 1: That way, you have a level of continuity. People are
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  Speaker 1: comfortable in their roles and you don't have the musical
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  Speaker 1: chairs that you could have in the off season. I
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  Speaker 1: would also say that this might be the time to
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  Speaker 1: draft another offensive tackle, to get a young guy that
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  Speaker 1: can also be ready to play either one of those spots.
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  Speaker 1: What would you think, Bucky and I'm sort of warm
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  Speaker 1: to it. Uh, offensive tackle in the first round. I
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  Speaker 1: think I think, look, it's it's a definitely in play. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The draft is a little different. It will. It will
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  Speaker 1: a lot of depend on who goes and how soon
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  Speaker 1: that run on offensive tackles happened. But all of the
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  Speaker 1: offensive tackles that are graded in the first round, that
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  Speaker 1: would be Um, Peter Scamonsky, you're here, Paris Johnson, Roderick Jones,
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  Speaker 1: darniell right from Tennessee, and even to a lesser degree,
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  Speaker 1: Osius Turrant. All of those guys have first round gree
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  Speaker 1: is just a matter when the first domino goes, you
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  Speaker 1: know that there's going to be a run shortly thereafter.
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  Speaker 1: Will the Jaguars be able to sit and pick where
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  Speaker 1: they're at the bottom of the first round and have
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys come to him? Is there a guy? Um?
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  Speaker 1: And Bucky's sort of the draft grewer, you know, Jake
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  Speaker 1: heard he's that guy. He's a listening. It's hard to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you at the combin. He will make a
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  Speaker 1: list Um. It is there a guy who could conceivably
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  Speaker 1: play guard as a rookie tackle later in that first
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  Speaker 1: round of twenty five? To me, that makes some sense
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  Speaker 1: if you want your first rounder to play as a rookie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, invest you're a Florida Gator or sorrys Tarmis,
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  Speaker 1: who can do that because he's a natural guard. People
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  Speaker 1: that are considering, yeah, you're a Florida, Um, he can
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  Speaker 1: play guard. He has shown the ability to do that.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, when you look at the tape of UH,
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  Speaker 1: it used to be the Cocktail Party. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what it's called, man, I know it's always changing. But
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  Speaker 1: we watch that is a good game. Okay, Um, we
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  Speaker 1: watch him play against Jalen Carter. He more than held
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  Speaker 1: his own. I guess the guy that has been talked
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  Speaker 1: about as a number one overall player in the draft class,
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  Speaker 1: So you can do that. Darniell Wright is another interesting
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  Speaker 1: one because he's a big Bodi's over three hundred and
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  Speaker 1: thirty pounds. He plays right tackle for Tennessee. But there's
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  Speaker 1: been a conversation about him kicking inside and so they
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  Speaker 1: definitely are some of those players who have swing ability
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  Speaker 1: meeting inside and outside that you can plug in inside
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  Speaker 1: early and then kick them out late as you get
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  Speaker 1: more comfortable with them and as they become comfortable playing
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  Speaker 1: in the league and they can bounce outside. I know
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  Speaker 1: you went to a basketball school, Bucky, but down here
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  Speaker 1: in Florida, they have big football games with big games
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  Speaker 1: attached to So I ain't duke in Carolina. Yes they
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  Speaker 1: have big games and big names. That's right. They may
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  Speaker 1: not officially call out the world's largest outdoor cocktail party anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but yes it still is. The twenty twenty three season
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  Speaker 1: is on the horizon and you won't want to miss it.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of quarterback moves around the league that's after this.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Huddle Up Podcast. It's Wednesday, March fifteenth,
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, John Osier and Bucky Brooks and Daily's Place
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  Speaker 1: that show. That's gonna be fun. All right. So speaking
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  Speaker 1: of money, um, quarterbacks are getting a lot of it,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of quarterback news around the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're allegedly just a little while as we
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  Speaker 1: recording this away from hearing the Aaron Rodgers decision whether
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  Speaker 1: he's going to the Jets or do that's the number
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  Speaker 1: one story around the league. Lamar Jackson's not far behind that.
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  Speaker 1: He's been tagged, but he can officially start talking to
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  Speaker 1: other teams. After four o'clock Wednesday, Derek cars down to
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans. Now, Jimmy Garoppolo has made a move. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's just to name a few. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I thought last year's quarterback moves were huge. This is
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  Speaker 1: right there with it. Bucky I mean, they're there are
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  Speaker 1: guys flying all over the league right now. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of moving around, a lot of moving forwards. Quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: are kind of on the carousehill, kind of making their way.
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  Speaker 1: And what you're seeing is everyone is looking at the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback class and trying to make sure that they're ready
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  Speaker 1: to play, regardless of if they're able to get a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback or not in the draft at the top of
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  Speaker 1: the board, and so that kind of dictates the terms
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the draft, and then everyone will
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  Speaker 1: kind of follow suit. I think it's interesting when we
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  Speaker 1: look at free agency, we always have to compare it
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  Speaker 1: and contrast it to the draft class and what we've
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  Speaker 1: heard and what we're seeing because the draft is up
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  Speaker 1: at the top nine as many blue chippers but some
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  Speaker 1: solid players, and so what teams are doing is they're
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  Speaker 1: looking at the draft and saying, you know what, I
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  Speaker 1: may not be able to get a blue chip player
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  Speaker 1: in this position. I'm gonna go spend some money and
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  Speaker 1: get a veteran player, and so vice versus. And so
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  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how it continues to spend
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  Speaker 1: over the next few days, because we know all of
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  Speaker 1: the activity happens the first week, then there's a reset
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  Speaker 1: and then that's when you can begin to find some
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  Speaker 1: bargain players. Maybe the Jaguars are just on the outside
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  Speaker 1: looking in, waiting for an opportunity to grab a few
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  Speaker 1: brought valued players to fill in some of those needs
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  Speaker 1: that if you're having the board and that's where I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's the best place to play in free agency.
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  Speaker 1: I mean for the good of your team over the
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  Speaker 1: long haul. I tell the story all the time JP,
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  Speaker 1: when I was with the Colts, you know, you were
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  Speaker 1: you work there. Really there were years, many years where
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  Speaker 1: I think symbolically as much as anything, if you walked
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  Speaker 1: through their scouting personnel offices on the first day of
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  Speaker 1: free agency, there was nobody there. Lights were out, and
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  Speaker 1: because they were not going to participate in that, because
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  Speaker 1: they were about resigning their own guys. They knew they
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  Speaker 1: weren't going to be active. And if you're resigning your
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  Speaker 1: own guys correctly, you can do that. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to have the press conferences that we've had
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  Speaker 1: on day one JP, where you've got five or six
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  Speaker 1: guys parading out, because that's how you get into a
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  Speaker 1: situation like they are this year where they really can't
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  Speaker 1: resign a guy they would have liked to have had.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got to be smart. And they are trying
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  Speaker 1: to get back to being a or not back. They've
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  Speaker 1: never been a team. They're trying to get to a
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  Speaker 1: team that is comfortable and the fans are comfortable with
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  Speaker 1: that second tier. Hey, Bucky. As far as Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this. Where do you come down on
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  Speaker 1: the guarantee and how the Ravens are handling this, how
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  Speaker 1: I see both sides of it. I get why the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens are hesitant, but I get why Lamar needs to
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  Speaker 1: be paid. Yeah, this is always a tricky one when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to quarterbacks in those things. And I will
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  Speaker 1: say this, like Lamar Jackson should have been paid a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago. The Ravens certainly benefited from Lamar
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  Speaker 1: Jackson playing like a plane at an MVP level while
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  Speaker 1: he was a rookie contract. And when you look at
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  Speaker 1: the players that he was surrounded by, he didn't have
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  Speaker 1: many marquee players, particularly in the passing game to throw too.
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  Speaker 1: That said, I can understand when Lamar Jackson elected to
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the field and play without getting this contract done.
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  Speaker 1: He took the risk, and the risk that he took
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  Speaker 1: is in the past two years he suffered injuries that
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  Speaker 1: have knocked him out at the end of the year,
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  Speaker 1: and so now when it's time to re up the deal,
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens can hold his injury history against him. And
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  Speaker 1: so when we think about fully guaranteed money and the
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  Speaker 1: things that the owners cling to, availability, durability, all those
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  Speaker 1: things come into play. At some point, though they need
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  Speaker 1: to get this thing done one way or the other.
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  Speaker 1: And whether it's Lamar Jackson saying, hey, I'm gonna playing
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  Speaker 1: on this transition day because eventually I wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: to free agency, or the team kind of ponying up
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  Speaker 1: money to kind of get him in the building. The
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  Speaker 1: one thing we know, the Ravens are I think forty
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  Speaker 1: six or forty five and sixteen with him, and their
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  Speaker 1: record is dismal without him. At some point they need
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback to show up because they're not in a
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  Speaker 1: position to be able to draft one, and so they
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  Speaker 1: got to figure out how to get number eight in
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  Speaker 1: the building. Yeah, you say hold the injury thing against him,
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  Speaker 1: and I get that. There's also a reality that players
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  Speaker 1: usually don't get more durable as they age, So I
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  Speaker 1: understand from a team's point of view, I understand why
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  Speaker 1: you're hesitant to pay a guy who hasn't been on
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  Speaker 1: the field of last couple. I eight, it's to think
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  Speaker 1: about that Bill John is like Jimmy Garoppolo got paid
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  Speaker 1: and he's been hurt the last three years. You've had
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  Speaker 1: other guys like Joe Burrow is going to get paid.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had an ACL injury, which is not one
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  Speaker 1: of Lamark jacks and stuff. For Deshaun Wasson got paid
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  Speaker 1: when he had an ACL. So guys had been hurt
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  Speaker 1: and banged up. Jak Prescott broke his leg and still
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  Speaker 1: got paid. So that's not necessarily good thing with the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: The quarterback normally gets paid regardless of whether they get
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  Speaker 1: hurt or not predictive as a franchise guy who's got
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  Speaker 1: accolade and and responsible for winning. When Daniel Jones gets
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  Speaker 1: paid like he's getting paid, it kind of changes the
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  Speaker 1: market and so they got to figure it out, like
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those things that ideally you paid the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback sooner rather than later. And maybe it's because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't have representation or whatever. This is something that should
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  Speaker 1: have been done two years ago, and so Mandy're here
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  Speaker 1: and now everything is up in a tivy because with
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: him on the franchise tag like it just is going
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  Speaker 1: to clog up all of their salary cap space and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: they can be really active shoppers on the market until
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  Speaker 1: they figure out what to do with the quarterback. Yet
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  Speaker 1: another reason jp for the JUS quickly next year absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: which you've got to think they will with Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: And it's gonna boggle everyone's mind because I'm telling you
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  Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence is going to be in the fifty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars club and so people have to get ready
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  Speaker 1: for that because the deals that are on the horizon
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts, justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: going to be looking at fifty million minimum annually and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: so everyone's attested, like swallow hard to understand Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be in the fifty million dollars club. Well,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: there's no club right now, right yeah, but he's gonna
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: be one of the one of the first ones pass
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  Speaker 1: for his hold ropes. That's a lot of coffees out
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  Speaker 1: of Jim for money A lot of coffees at Jack's
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  Speaker 1: Beach for Trevor Lawrence. Hey, by the way, the Ravens
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  Speaker 1: are coming to Jacksonville next year. They're on the schedule
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: as a Jaguars home game, so something to watch out for.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see Bucky lot going on this week. Appreciate the
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  Speaker 1: time as always, and we'll catch you again next week.
• 20:38
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