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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Steve Goodin, Gary Favors, Todd Zinser · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five o five at fifty five k RC DE Talk station.
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  Speaker 2: Have the Friday serious.
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  Speaker 1: It is a wu hoo confirming in fact that it
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  Speaker 1: is Friday, not the you needed confirmation. Happy Friday to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you can stick around all morning. You got
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  Speaker 1: a good show lined up thanks to executroducer Joe Strecker.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Brian Thomas. I host this show and
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  Speaker 1: I love hearing from my listeners, so you can feel
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  Speaker 1: free to chime in if it's something on your mind.
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  Speaker 1: Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred, eight
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  Speaker 1: podcast page. In my conversation with Jay ratliff Our, iHeartMedia
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  Speaker 1: Aviation Expert. Every Thursday at eight thirty Liz Keating running
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  Speaker 1: for since a City Council. She joined the program yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: preceded by Andre Ewing. This outspoken community activists and retired
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  Speaker 1: police officer actor thirty years serving the Greater Cincinnati area.
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  Speaker 1: Andre Ewing commenting on Police Chief Thresa Thiji's maybe impending dismissal,
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  Speaker 1: firing or resignation, mayor, city manager's city hall, variety of
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  Speaker 1: different things with Andrea. Love that guy. He's on fire
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  Speaker 1: every time he mentioned me on his yesterday's post on
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  Speaker 1: Facebook too, So thanks Andre. Appreciate the shoutout. Congressman Warren
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  Speaker 1: Davidson and Dan Hills, the former FOP president Dan Hills
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  Speaker 1: on the plug the Future of Police Chief Thresa Thiji.
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  Speaker 1: That was yesterday, great show lined up. Appreciate Joe Streker
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  Speaker 1: doing what he does. Let's see what is he doing today?
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  Speaker 1: He lined up Dave Hat he Tech Friday's Dave Hatter
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  Speaker 1: Every Friday at six thirty. Today we'll talk about, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna learn something today we typically do with Dave.
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  Speaker 1: Another new term ghost tapping, no no idea. Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: why we have Dave. Collectively, That's why I'm glad I
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  Speaker 1: have Dave. We'll get to find out today what that means.
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  Speaker 1: Microsoft Voice Clone artificial intelligence is in a word, scary
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  Speaker 1: all right, and Queen City Conference, Cincinnati's premier security conference.
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  Speaker 1: Who will give us a few words on that one.
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  Speaker 1: Something tells me Dave's going to be highly involved with that.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden also running for Cincaya City Council. You know,
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  Speaker 1: early voting is going on right now. You get over to
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  Speaker 1: the Board of Elections during well open hours, check it
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  Speaker 1: out online, get over their vote so you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to worry about being there on election day. Steve Gooden
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  Speaker 1: deserves your vote. Good Man. He is brilliant, great lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: demonstrably did a good job on council when you have
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  Speaker 1: after he got appointed. So we got another opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: bring Steve back. We bring Steve back this morning at
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  Speaker 1: seven oh five to talk about the situation going on
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  Speaker 1: with the police chief violence in the city of Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look, there's another shooting happened this morning. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: Joe Trekker standing on top of the violence in city
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  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Oh that's right, I'm sorry. Shootings plural corrected
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  Speaker 1: by my executive producer, which I appreciate. Somebody's got to
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  Speaker 1: be there to keep me on my toes. That's why
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  Speaker 1: Joe is such a great guy. Gary favors he's running
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  Speaker 1: for since a City council after Steve Gooden. He'll join
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  Speaker 1: the program at seven thirty. Gary has been endorsed by
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  Speaker 1: Ken Blackwell, a man that I have a tremendous amount
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  Speaker 1: of respect for also got the FOP endorsement and the
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton County GOP endorsement. Gary at seven thirty, followed by
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  Speaker 1: todds Enzer Citizen Watchdog Todd z Enzer, Yes, Joe correct.
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  Speaker 1: If you vote Corey Bowman, Todd Zenzer may ultimately be
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  Speaker 1: our city manager. You choose Cheryl Long. Todzinzer, former Inspector
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  Speaker 1: General for the United States of America, and a guy
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  Speaker 1: who is spending his retirement just paying really, really, really
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  Speaker 1: close attention to what I can describe as absolute, outright
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  Speaker 1: shenanigans going on in downtown Cincinnati. During my conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Andre Ewing and Ken Kober and Dan Hills, and you've
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  Speaker 1: read about her, Iris ROLI's name keeps coming up. She's
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  Speaker 1: a paid consultant on the Cincinni payroll. She's an outspoken
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  Speaker 1: critic of the police, been around since the collaborative agreement
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  Speaker 1: was in A was merely a gleam in some folks eye,
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  Speaker 1: and she's been around ever since. And since she has
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  Speaker 1: a paid contract for the City of Cincinnati. I think
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  Speaker 1: her most recent contract negotiation, that's her north of five
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year, or at least Iris rollie LLC.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if all that money lands up in
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  Speaker 1: Iris's pocket. I have no idea. So Iris, if you're
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  Speaker 1: out there, maybe you can clear that up. But Todd
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  Speaker 1: Zenzer's taking a look at the invoices and I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to talk to him about this, and he had
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  Speaker 1: a clock hour, so he posts yesterday Citizen Watchdog is
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  Speaker 1: his podcast can follow Todd, I recommend that you do.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 1: He had previously requested invoices submitted to the City of
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati by Iris roly Llc. She is a contractor, so
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  Speaker 1: there are rules that relate to the invoices that are submitted,
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  Speaker 1: and there are obligations that go along with requesting payment
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  Speaker 1: from the city taxpayers. Somebody has to look out for
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  Speaker 1: your taxpayer dollars. Question, did they do it in this case?
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  Speaker 1: According to Todd, my conclusion is no. He said so
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  Speaker 1: far response to my request, thirty four invoices were included,
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  Speaker 1: covering parts of calendar year twenty two, twenty three, twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: and twenty five, and the what is called the Government
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  Speaker 1: Square Initiative for last year. Total of the invoices just
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  Speaker 1: shy of three hundred thousand dollars, he said, they all
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  Speaker 1: appear to have been paid. Then he goes on to
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  Speaker 1: point out some obligations within the contract. The cities contract
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  Speaker 1: with iris Roly LLC required quote detailed timekeeping close quote
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  Speaker 1: along with quote activity logs close quote submitted monthly. And
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  Speaker 1: as Todd brings to our attention, the invoices do not
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  Speaker 1: reflect detailed timekeeping or any time keeping in his words,
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  Speaker 1: and do not reflect activity logs only the activities reminds
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  Speaker 1: me of the evolution of billable hours in the practice
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  Speaker 1: of law review documents two point zero. There's some lawyers
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  Speaker 1: out there that are chuckling over that right now. Anyway, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: he said, the invoices do reflect that Irish Early LLC
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  Speaker 1: was very very in his words two varies, very very
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  Speaker 1: involved in public safety policy and police personnel matters, including
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  Speaker 1: quote police chief search. See. I emphasized that because this
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  Speaker 1: is one of the things talked about yesterday with Dan
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  Speaker 1: Hills and Andre Ewing, both of whom pointed out that
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  Speaker 1: these Cincinnati Police Department was polled when they were searching
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  Speaker 1: for a new police chief. It wasn't Teresa Thigi that
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  Speaker 1: they wanted overwhelmingly rejecting police chief Teresa Thigi as a
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  Speaker 1: candidate for police chief, and in spite of the overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: rejection from the Cincinni Police Department members, of course, Shay
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  Speaker 1: Long and after have pro Ball went ahead and appointed
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  Speaker 1: Police Chief Thresa Thigi to the job. And I suppose,
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  Speaker 1: given that Iris Rollie LLC build the City of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: for working on police accountability and police chief search interviews
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  Speaker 1: for assistant chief and ex chief, that she in fact
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  Speaker 1: had a role to play in Police Chief Teresa Thigi's
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  Speaker 1: selection over the objections of the police officers. So how
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  Speaker 1: much of a role she had to play. She got
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  Speaker 1: paid for it, did they listen, Iris Roly? I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that the bills reflect whether or not they did.
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  Speaker 1: But she got paid for it as a consultant to
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  Speaker 1: work with them on the selection of the police chief. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: he said there were seven invoices provided covering twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: and except for the dates on the invoices, five of
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  Speaker 1: seven of these invoices, he said, were identical, including misspellings. Huh,
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  Speaker 1: carbon copy of the exact same invoice, he said. A
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  Speaker 1: sixth invoice was identical except for one additional activity that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't included on the other five invoices. On its face,
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  Speaker 1: he states in his post in contracting that's referred to
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  Speaker 1: as double or duplicate billing, which is improper and which
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  Speaker 1: the city will need to address. He's so delicate in
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  Speaker 1: his statements, he said without contemporarious activity logs, which he
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  Speaker 1: according to his review of the documents, there were no
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  Speaker 1: activity logs, which is required by the contract. So without those,
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  Speaker 1: he said, it isn't clear how those claims will be
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  Speaker 1: legally sorted out. All the invoices have been posted in
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  Speaker 1: a folder on my website's research library. He gives you
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  Speaker 1: a link so you can, like Todd Zenser, independently conduct
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  Speaker 1: your own inspector general like analysis of the bills paid
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  Speaker 1: to IRIS roly LLC and see if you believe they
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  Speaker 1: line up with the contractual provisions.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Todd also posted so all the information there for your
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  Speaker 1: and my review question is do you I know I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever go and review this kind of information?
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever ask for documents from the City of
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati or any government for that matter. All these rights
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  Speaker 1: and abilities to gather information, And I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: guilt you in any way, shape or form, I'm merely
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  Speaker 1: pointing out the value of Todd Zenser, because as much
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  Speaker 1: time as I spend with politics in all these matters,
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  Speaker 1: I literally don't believe I have enough time to go
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  Speaker 1: through and sort through on the level of detail that
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  Speaker 1: a man like Todd Zenser is willing to do, at
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  Speaker 1: least in so far as the city as Cincinnati government
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  Speaker 1: issues are concerned. That's his focus, and so he sticks
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  Speaker 1: to one governmental entity. At least I believe that be
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  Speaker 1: the case. He may look at Hamilton County. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but predominantly he's focused on the city, and he does
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  Speaker 1: a meticulous job. He goes back to the well every
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  Speaker 1: time they don't produce the documents he's looking for, he
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  Speaker 1: makes demands on doing it. Sometimes I suppose, maybe even
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  Speaker 1: engaging law firms, because there are firms out there that
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  Speaker 1: see the city irregularly for this kind of thing. But
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  Speaker 1: he gets the records, he looks at them, he analyzes them,
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  Speaker 1: he compares what the contracts require to what iris role
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  Speaker 1: he or anybody else is doing by way of billing,
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  Speaker 1: and he brings all of this to our attention, and
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  Speaker 1: he spends a lot of time doing it, and he
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  Speaker 1: isn't paid a dime. Todd Zenzer is not an employee
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  Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati. He's not a consultant, but
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  Speaker 1: isn't he doing wonderful consulting work for the city. I
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  Speaker 1: know they don't want the public to know about this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: But if you were a responsible elected official in the
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  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati and you're throwing out hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 1: of dollars to pay invoices submitted, don't you think you
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  Speaker 1: owe an obligation to the taxpayers of the City of
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati to make sure at least the paperwork is adequate
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  Speaker 1: and documents work that was actually done. Documents worked at
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  Speaker 1: the contract retaining her and her entity obligate her to do.
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  Speaker 1: Todds Enser does that. So if you let Corey Bowman,
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  Speaker 1: we might stand a really good chance of having todds
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  Speaker 1: Enzer as the city manager. And I think that would
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  Speaker 1: ten Trump. I improve this message. Appreciate him doing that
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  Speaker 1: so much better than I'm Joe Biden, and.
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  Speaker 6: I approve this night, I tell you, although I have
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  Speaker 6: to admit I do miss my wife's text messages to me.
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  Speaker 1: Back when Joe Biden improved this message FJB. Every morning
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  Speaker 1: I knew she was awake listening to the show Joe,
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  Speaker 1: I love talking to the listeners. And get ready, It's
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  Speaker 1: no King's rally day tomorrow. No thrones, no crowns, no kings.
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  Speaker 1: October eighteenth, millions of us are rising again to show
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  Speaker 1: the world America has no kings and the power belongs
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  Speaker 1: to the people. Does it you really feel as though
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  Speaker 1: the power belongs to you? I always point out that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Democrats are the ones that one of
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  Speaker 1: my manager world, who is deregulating, who is deregulating, who
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  Speaker 1: is trying to shrink the size and scope of government
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  Speaker 1: and in so doing reduce its impact on your day
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  Speaker 1: today lives the answers to these questions are quite obvious,
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  Speaker 1: and so this is what always frustrates me because the Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: the left is the communists, the Marxists always run around
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  Speaker 1: screaming about how they're the ones that want to protect democracy.
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  Speaker 1: We do live in a republic, but doesn't matter, and
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  Speaker 1: that the conservative side of the element are the fascists
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  Speaker 1: and that we are the ones that are well, it's
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  Speaker 1: just insane, and to me, it's an insult to the
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  Speaker 1: American intellect that they even get away with it. Are
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  Speaker 1: we that collectively dumb that they spew this nonsense and
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  Speaker 1: we actually believe it? Are literally millions and millions of
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  Speaker 1: people going to show up on Saturday tomorrow to like
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  Speaker 1: rally against what they believe or claim to be fascism
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  Speaker 1: or authoritarianism. The same people that force you or would
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  Speaker 1: like to force you. They're never going to force me
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  Speaker 1: to do anything, but they would like to force you
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  Speaker 1: to use their gender pronoun even though it doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: any sense and you don't even understand what it means.
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  Speaker 1: The ones that want to take away your gas stove,
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  Speaker 1: over my dead body, I'll interject, want to change how
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  Speaker 1: you drive your transportation at removing the concept of choice
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  Speaker 1: from your day to day lives through regulations, laws, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's I think it's an embarrassment
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  Speaker 1: that they actually well maybe it's just the they appear
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  Speaker 1: to be getting away with the flip of the narrative.
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  Speaker 1: I know my listeners are smarter than that. It's just
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  Speaker 1: that it's so widely reported and so often repeated. Again,
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  Speaker 1: you got to look at this whole concept of this
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  Speaker 1: monolithic you know, legacy media, mainstream media, that's where you
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  Speaker 1: get a lot of this nonsense, and of course an
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  Speaker 1: alternative media and other outlets they don't buy into it,
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  Speaker 1: but they starting to get a lot of lip service
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  Speaker 1: with that fascist, fascist trumpet, and I just look at
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  Speaker 1: him and think, god, you know, I thank god I'm
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  Speaker 1: not that blank and stupid. So here's a warning shot
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  Speaker 1: to all those folks out there are going to appear
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  Speaker 1: at the No King's rally and maybe engage in acts
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  Speaker 1: of violence. It's coming your way. And I was glad
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  Speaker 1: to see some ANTIFAM members have been indicted for supporting terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: This has been a long time coming, folks. There's so
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  Speaker 1: much coordination out there. And I'll give you their website.
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  Speaker 1: No kings dot org. Look at the map. Look how
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  Speaker 1: many protests have been organized. Look how long they've had
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  Speaker 1: to build up to this moment. Parenthetically, the government's shut down,
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  Speaker 1: and the Democrats over and over again will not agree
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  Speaker 1: to open up the government and continue at Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: level funding levels. Why they're waiting for something. And it
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  Speaker 1: may be that we'll have a new dawn and the
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  Speaker 1: government will reopen after this weekend. Will Republicans view the
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  Speaker 1: No King's rallies and I don't know how many people
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  Speaker 1: are going to show up, but let's just say it's
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  Speaker 1: wildly successful. It provides those great optics throngs of people
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  Speaker 1: protesting the fascist Donald Trump. Open the government back up,
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  Speaker 1: give us back our healthcare. And that's a critical point
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  Speaker 1: to note anyway, isn't it. You have to rely on
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  Speaker 1: the government for your healthcare. The government on a whim
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  Speaker 1: could flip it off. That's the Democrats narrative on this,
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  Speaker 1: Those evil Republicans. They're shutting off the subsidies. The subsidies
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  Speaker 1: are the only thing that makes their damn program work.
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  Speaker 1: It has the appearance of affordability because you make the
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  Speaker 1: American taxpayer pay the premiums directly to the insurance directly
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  Speaker 1: to the medical providers. But it's a you are beholding
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  Speaker 1: to the government for your health care. How does that
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  Speaker 1: make you feel? It's like you have to worry day
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  Speaker 1: in and day out if you're a senior and you're
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  Speaker 1: living on Social Security. A government that refuses to fix
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  Speaker 1: an obvious train wreck that's coming headlong your way, that's
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  Speaker 1: your only source of revenue. And I'm sorry that you're
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  Speaker 1: in that position. I get it. A lot of people are.
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  Speaker 1: But you're stuck. You're clinging to something that is basically
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  Speaker 1: what I would argue is in nefarious force. Holy crap,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to rely on these clowns to live. We
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  Speaker 1: should all be collectively running in the opposite direction. But
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  Speaker 1: two alleged members of Antifa, so this one in Texas,
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  Speaker 1: have been charged with providing material support to terrorists. This
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  Speaker 1: is the first terrorism related charges that have brought against
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  Speaker 1: people linked to the network over an alleged attack against
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement. You have to get into the details, the
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  Speaker 1: point being the coordinated effort to unlaunch criminal behavior. We're
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  Speaker 1: walking into rico, folks. This is going to be, I
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  Speaker 1: hope the beginning of a long chapter of holding these
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  Speaker 1: nefarious actors on a very very high level accountable. Did
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  Speaker 1: George Soros or did any of these Tides Foundation funds
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  Speaker 1: at any of these other multi billionaire run operations coordinate
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  Speaker 1: criminal activity. I'm of the belief that they pretty much did.
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  Speaker 1: The folks, mind your p's and q's. Tomorrow you engage
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  Speaker 1: in criminal activity. Maybe it to behest of some multi billionaire,
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  Speaker 1: right all the ones that the Democrats are all screaming about,
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  Speaker 1: the ones who are in bed with the Democrats. Parenthetically, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you may find yourself well under indictment five twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: Haven't spun that disc since I was old. I don't
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  Speaker 1: Tom's got this morning, Tom, thanks for calling. Happy Friday
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  Speaker 1: to you, my friend.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Kiss double platinum line one of my one
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  Speaker 7: of my cherished possessions as a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: So that's hilarious. I tell you what I'm gonna do.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say a name out loud. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: nobody knows what I'm talking about except my the guys
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  Speaker 1: from my neighborhood. The biggest Kiss fan I know, Greg
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  Speaker 1: Langenbrunner if you're out there, or Doug Langenbrner if you're
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: out there. Doug was a huge Kiss fan. He had
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: all of them, and I remember seeing his his his
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  Speaker 1: double live album from from Kiss.
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  Speaker 7: So anyway, yeah, I remember a group of guys did
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: did it come to school? We had some I don't
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  Speaker 7: know whatever event it was. You could, you could dress
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: up whatever, and the four guys got together and they
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: dressed up like Kiss, it was pretty epic. It was,
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  Speaker 7: it was very good. So yeah, uhh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks to Kiss, we have Gwar another one of
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  Speaker 1: Joe's favorites.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I don't know if I've heard of that one.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to know.
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  Speaker 7: Probably, you know. The first thing I've been commenting on
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  Speaker 7: lately is I drive past in Sneddy Dayton Road is
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  Speaker 7: the gas prices and of course the other shoe dropped,
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  Speaker 7: and it seems like everybody is, now, how did this happen?
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  Speaker 7: Everybody's at two ninety nine, now what. It's almost like
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  Speaker 7: they're colluding, Brian. It's almost like, oh my, they're all
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  Speaker 7: getting the same memo. It's there's no way that's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you had lord Us oil futures ended yesterday
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  Speaker 1: fifty six dollars in ninety nine cents a barrel, which
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  Speaker 1: is a couple of points down, and that's nineteen percent
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  Speaker 1: down from last year. Oil is plunging. There's a glut
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  Speaker 1: of crude because we're pumping the hell out of it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Opek is not compared back its output because it's trying
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  Speaker 1: to undermine the United States crude purchases, and of course
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  Speaker 1: everybody's afraid we're going to enter a global recession or something.
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  Speaker 1: So enjoy the little gas price, is why you can. Tom.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, but the thing is you have that information
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  Speaker 7: you just gave, and yet everybody seemingly jumped their gas
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  Speaker 7: prices fifty or sixty cents all at the same time.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I drove past it yesterday morning. It was
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  Speaker 7: two thirty nine, and then I'm on my way over work,
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  Speaker 7: and everybody's two ninety nine except except I gotta throw
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  Speaker 7: this out. There is one gas station at that exit
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  Speaker 7: at the Cincinnati Date Road, I seventy five exit that
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  Speaker 7: still says two thirty nine on the side. Somebody's somebody's
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  Speaker 7: bucking the train, and I'm sure they're gonna hear all
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  Speaker 7: about it. They might, Oh, that is not okay amongst
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  Speaker 7: the gas gas community, dude. And then across the street
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  Speaker 7: it's sixty cents higher.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy, all right, And there's a Tom's Low gas
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  Speaker 1: price report, and I will acknowledge that. Somewhere on Camargo
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  Speaker 1: Avenue there is that one gas station that's still charging
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  Speaker 1: me eight dollars a gallon.
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  Speaker 7: Uh geez. Yeah, those those people over there, they're always
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  Speaker 7: the highest in town.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 7: I know, I know exactly which one you're talking about.
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  Speaker 7: It's it's on the top of the list for gas
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  Speaker 7: Bundy if you pull up Cincinnati. Yeah, it's always the
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  Speaker 7: top gas station as far as highest gas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, churge like a buck more. I guess people are gooble,
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  Speaker 1: like I would drive an extra half a mile to
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  Speaker 1: get gas at a substantially reduced rate. There are several
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  Speaker 1: gas stations within short driving distance from that joint. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 7: Anyway, not obviously, Yeah, but it's good. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 7: an interesting subject because some I'd love to know what's
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  Speaker 7: going on, But behind the scenes, you know, there is
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: some kind of a collusion thing going on. It everybody
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: is jumping their gas prices, and it's like it's like
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  Speaker 7: you say a thing you said about how the Democrats
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  Speaker 7: say stuff and this many people are are are going
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  Speaker 7: along with it. They really think we're that stupid. It's
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  Speaker 7: just we don't know what mean, what can you do
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  Speaker 7: about it? I hope that one gas that I mentioned
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  Speaker 7: it's still two thirty nine. I hope they get a
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  Speaker 7: line that blocks the freaking street and the other gas
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  Speaker 7: station across the street at sixty cents higher. I hope
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  Speaker 7: they get nobody and then maybe something like gatt'll help.
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  Speaker 7: I don't I don't know if that'll work, but whatever,
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  Speaker 7: really quick. The reason that one thing I want to
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  Speaker 7: talk touch on day to kinda follow up with something
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  Speaker 7: I brought up a couple of days ago, as you
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: read the thing about our esteemed justice to the Supreme
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  Speaker 7: Court Katanji Brown Jackson and her comments on basically saying
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: that minorities are disabled. Yeah, I mean American for Disability
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: Act should apply this. See more. More people on the
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: left are giving more excuses at trying to feed into
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: people's brains that oh, poor you, Oh, it's not your
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: fault not able to get your lazy self up and
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: go vote. It's not your fault if you can't go
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  Speaker 7: and just get yourself an ID so that you could
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  Speaker 7: prove who you are before you vote. It's not your fault,
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: you poor thing. It's because of all the the the
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  Speaker 7: racism that's happened years and years ago. It's not your fault.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: That is a load of crap. And I'm just so
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  Speaker 7: fed up with this garbage. And really, anybody, any perspective,
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: doesn't matter where you're at, where you came from how
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: you grew up. If you were alive today, and you're
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: not willing to acknowledge that that is a load of
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: crap that I'm sorry, you got something going on that
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: that is not right, and you're going along like you
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: talked about a few minutes ago, with the other stuff
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  Speaker 7: the Democrats want to pump out. Come on, guys, it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: not this. You can't be that stupid. You can't be
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: it's ridiculous. You're you're hanging on to some crutch or
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: some pacifier just to make yourself feel better. You got
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: you gotta stop, you gotta get real, and you gotta
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: wake up and stop behaving like different. Please please don't
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  Speaker 7: vote Democrat.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, Brian, appreciate that time. Does it
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  Speaker 1: make you feel better to be like embrace in being
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  Speaker 1: included in a group that's disabled? Five thirty seven right now,
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  Speaker 1: morning Jeff, who's always looking forward to a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of John the Fisherman on a Friday morning and a
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  Speaker 1: happy one, two, two, three, five?
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  Speaker 2: Do have a stack?
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  Speaker 1: Is stupid? Go to the phones first, though, After all, right,
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  Speaker 1: let's see what Larry's guy this morning before we dive
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  Speaker 1: into the stack and stupid Larry, Happy Friday, Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 7: How are you.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I'm doing well? What's going on?
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: I was, I was talking to Joe, and I was
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: gonna tell you the same thing that I told Joe.
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: So I worked locally here in the Cincinnati area for company.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: I don't want to say who, because I'm sure other listeners,
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: but I have company provided medical insurance, and ever since
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: Obamacare was put into place, thanks to the regulations, the
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: increases on my premiums has always went up every year,
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: year over year. Now I had I would consider Cadillac
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: insurance before then the enactment of Obamacare, because I would
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: only pay like ten dollars to go to the doctor.
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: If you got admitted to the hospital, it was one
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  Speaker 8: hundred dollars deductible. And I'm not only as for the
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: family plan of about forty dollars a week out of
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: my paycheck. Well, over the years, I'll fast forward to today,
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: I now pay two sixty six a week for my
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: medicare through my company provided insurance, but also by deductibles
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: or over six thousand dollars. So I'm paying over a
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  Speaker 8: thousand a month for my premiums for private healthcare and
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: with a six thousand dollars deductible before the eighty twenty
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  Speaker 8: even kicks in. So I work sixty hours a week
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: or sixty hours last week. I look at my paycheck
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: this morning, and I paid over nine hundred dollars in taxes.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: Five hundred and sixty eight of it went to Now
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: I'm being transparent because I hear all of these people
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  Speaker 8: talk about this, but nobody talks about the details. I
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: want to hear from the people out there that are
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: like me and your other listeners. I'm a pipe fitter
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: welder for thirty two years. I get up, I strap
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: my work boots on, and I go to work provide
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: for myself and my family. I've raised my kids. Now
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  Speaker 8: it's just me and my wife at home.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: But you know when when.
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  Speaker 8: I it's legalized theft. When you open up your paycheck,
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: you work sixty hours and you've paid over nine hundred
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  Speaker 8: dollars in federal tax Yeah, a state, local, and medicare.
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: It's legalized theft. And I want to know where are
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: the people that are human about this this government? And
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: I hear Chuck Schumer and all of them talk about lie,
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  Speaker 8: how the Republicans are lying, and we're the ones that
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  Speaker 8: shut the government down.
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  Speaker 7: No, those people that are.
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: On those subsidies need to get up off their duff and.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: They need to go.
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  Speaker 8: Find a job that they can find an employer that
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  Speaker 8: will provide them health insurance. You cannot rely on the government.
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  Speaker 8: The government's regulations is messing it all up. They're more
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: of the problem. They're not the fixer. They are the problem.
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  Speaker 8: And when I see my paycheck this morning, when I
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  Speaker 8: got up and I listened to your monologue here at
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  Speaker 8: the bottom of the hour, it just it got me.
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  Speaker 8: I was already fused when I was listening to you,
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  Speaker 8: and I'm like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Gotta call in and tell this so, I imagine so,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: What the answer is other than the rest of you
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  Speaker 8: guys say don't vote Democratic.
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  Speaker 1: Lar and Larry do yourself a favor. It's it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: cost anything. And I'm going to support a sponsor by
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  Speaker 1: telling you to do this. Get in touch with cover Sinsey.
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  Speaker 1: Let them look at what you got. You may find
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that you can pay less money and get some dollar
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  Speaker 1: one coverage. I swear to you it's worth it. It
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't cost you a dime. Let them just look at it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: You may find there is a better way out there.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: They have helped so many people. I got a business
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: owner out there. They improved his business's bottom line about
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars, got all of his employees insurance and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: they're all happy with it, and it's less money. So
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: just the thought. It doesn't solve the bigger problem that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, which I share with you. You didn't
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  Speaker 1: call looking for an argument on that one. My friend
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  Speaker 1: by forty six got other callers online. Feel free to
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  Speaker 1: ene eighty five. It's Friday. I'll be right back. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff happening Military occupation Talk station SEI
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  Speaker 1: I five fifty one here if you have CANCD talk
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  Speaker 1: Dation Friday. That's been a few days since I did
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  Speaker 1: a stack of stupid. I was just asking Joe, you
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: think I do a stack of stupid after the six
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  Speaker 1: o'clock hour begins before we get to Tech Friday's Dave Hatter.
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  Speaker 1: That is the possibility. But in the meantimes, go to
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  Speaker 1: the finals to what Carl's got. Carl, thanks for calling
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  Speaker 1: this morning. Happy Friday to you, sir.
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  Speaker 9: Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 7: Gee.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know where to start with my comments this morning,
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: but let me start with Chief Fiji. She is not
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  Speaker 9: the one who is out there shooting people. These criminals
• 31:44
  Speaker 9: are out there shooting people. These criminals have lengthy records
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  Speaker 9: and they are out on probation. Now the city leaders
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  Speaker 9: say that the city is safe. If it is, why
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  Speaker 9: are they going to fire Chief Fiji at this time?
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  Speaker 9: They should be giving her a raise and a promotion.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 9: It could all be coincidental. And you know, if I
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  Speaker 9: was Chief DG, I would have thrown my hands up
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  Speaker 9: a long time ago and retired. Now the city is
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: pushing the narrative that the city is safe. And I
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  Speaker 9: had the opportunity to attend the Hamilton County Association of
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  Speaker 9: Chiefs Police town hall meeting on Tuesday at Corinthian Baptist Church,
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  Speaker 9: Dowlassey Avenue, and Jan Michelle lemon Kearney, the Vice Mayor herself,
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  Speaker 9: handed me the statistics of the city, and they're called
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  Speaker 9: the STARS statistics. It stands for Strategic and Tactical Analytic
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  Speaker 9: Review for Solutions. And if you look at this report,
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  Speaker 9: citywide homicides, you know, are pretty much in line. Everything
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  Speaker 9: is in line. We've had one more homicide this year
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  Speaker 9: in the city from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty
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  Speaker 9: five year today looks pretty impressive. And then of course
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  Speaker 9: she handed out these statistics for District four District four
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  Speaker 9: and they actually complimented the people in District four. District
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  Speaker 9: four is down ten homicides year to day. Now, one
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  Speaker 9: gentleman in the meeting asked the question, how are these
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  Speaker 9: statistics accurate? And the representatives from the Cincinnati Police Department
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  Speaker 9: responded and said, yes, we have a whole department that
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: does nothing else but handle these statistics. Meanwhile, I'm there
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  Speaker 9: sitting what about all these shootings that we're having and everything.
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  Speaker 9: Of course, they are all happening down in the Central
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  Speaker 9: Business district in downtown, and they did not show or
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  Speaker 9: give us those statistics at the meeting.
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  Speaker 1: So what's your conclusion with all that that you just mentioned, Carl.
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  Speaker 9: Well, you know, city wide, as of Tuesday, city wide
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  Speaker 9: crime that is pretty much on track to where it
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  Speaker 9: was last year. But you know, we're seeing a lot
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: of crime down in the Central Business district. I mean
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  Speaker 9: I hear it every day on the news.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's just become this the concentration for
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: crime there. I mean, people have I guess, as opposed
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to spreading crime far and wide throughout the city. We've
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: concentrated our criminal activities in one area. Yes, okay, fair enough,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: And apparently I've got one area is like predominantly Government Square,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: at least in so far as criminal activity by young
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  Speaker 1: people on bus transfers. Anyhow, appreciate the call, Carl. Thanks
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: for going to the meeting. Though here it is obviously
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: a concerned citizen. You showed up at the town hall
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to hear all about it and do a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a ig work like Todd Zenzer does on behalf
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: of the community for everyone's benefit. Bobby, welcome in the
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  Speaker 1: morning show.
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  Speaker 10: Happy Friday, Happy Friday, my brother stabbing shootings, murderers, Oh my,
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  Speaker 10: it didn't poor Kopolis. You can rest assure that what
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: happened down there on the square before the game and
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: we had another shooting. Then we go ahead and have
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  Speaker 10: a murder rights outside of the Great American Ballpark, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my yeah, that was this morning at two am.
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  Speaker 1: Homicide investigators showed up in East third Street at Sycamore
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: two am. Man's twenties maybe early thirties found shot in
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the BMW. He died.
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  Speaker 11: Well, he's driving driving a nice car used to I guess.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It could be a Beatter two thousand
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and two model or something from way back in the day.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: We don't know. The reports didn't say that, but.
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  Speaker 11: Well, we said we got these I didn't want to interrupted,
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: but we got these protests coming tomorrow. Is there any
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: outside of Cincinnati and conserved areas? I know I'm in
• 35:55
  Speaker 11: eastern Kentucky and I know there's none around the people
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: that I know he he's made it, looking forward to it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 11: They're watching on TV. Like in Portland, these big fat
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: people driving around on bicycles naked. Are they planning on
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: the events like that in the great Porcopolis?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a draw. You know, you gotta get people
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  Speaker 1: to show up. You better have a naked bicycle riding event.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe you won't get as big of a draw in
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the greater Cincinnati area. I'm looking at the No Kings
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  Speaker 1: rally sites. We got Mall Road in Florence, Kentucky. We've
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: got Smell Riverfront Park. We've got Eastgate Mall, Loveland. Yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: believe it or not, I know, don't get me started.
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  Speaker 1: There's one in Mason, a dance party for democracy according
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to the No King's website for that location. You got
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: one in Westchester. If you want to go a little
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: bit further north, there's one in Middletown. And also let's
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: see here Oxford. Those are the handful that I picked.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: But again No Kings dot org. If you want to
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: see where they all are, it makes it look really old, overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you got these places far and wide who
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: are having a rally. Will people show up to these rallies?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: It means, you see, don't engage in criminal activity, folks,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you could end up in subject of a reco charge.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Don't go away. Plenty to talk about. Then we get
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  Speaker 1: Tech Friday with Dave hat Or coming up at six
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  Speaker 1: point thirty. Bobby, you have a great weekend, my friend.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I love to hear from You've got a comment regardless,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: be right back after the news.
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  Speaker 12: Today's tough headlines coming up at the top of the hour.
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  Speaker 1: Something always happens when you talk station. At six oh
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  Speaker 1: six to fifty five krc DE talk station, Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 1: here wishing everyone a very happy Friday. I think that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: some good plans going on. Congratulations the Bengals. IVERY didn't
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: expect to be uttering those words this morning, but they
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: did get a win. Squeaker it was. But a win
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: is a win is a win. Sorry to my wife
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Paul Atte, who is a Pittsburgh fan, I don't know
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: when they play the Bengal I think she leans Bengals,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: but neither of us watched the game, both of us
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: staring at the back of our eyelids last night sleeping. Anyway,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: if you want to call and chime in on topic,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: feel free. I'm inclined to go to Stack as Stupid
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: in the six o'clock hour because well, it's Friday, and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I haven't been able to do a Stack of Stupid
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  Speaker 1: because I prefer callers. But the last several days obviously
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: great callers and exchanging of commentary and analysis and ideas,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: so I haven't been doing the Stack of stupid. So
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I got a couple, including well, one from a national
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: level and a warning ahead of time to people who
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: are going to the No Kings rally. Yeah, mind your
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: p's and q's. There could be consequences. Play stupid games
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and win stupid prizes, or in the modern parlance FAFO
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the abbreviation which I cannot articulate out loud because of
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the FCC. But you know what that means. At least
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: maybe look it up if you don't. Steve Gooden's going
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to join the program after Tech Friday Tech Friday with
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Dave had Or bottom of the r What is ghost tapping.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna find out together. I don't know, but Microsoft's
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Voice Clone artificial intelligence is, in a word, scary. That's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: where my notes day plus Queen City Conference, City's premier
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: security conference going on. He's gonna give us some details
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: on that. That starts at six thirty. Now, Steve Gooden
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: run for Since a City Council Charter right candidate great
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: man he is. He'll talk about since a Police Chief
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: three Cythigi's job maybe being on the line. We talked
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: about that yesterday with Andrea Ewing and former FOP president
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Dan Hills. Violence in the City, oh In loss keating
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: two Violence in the City as well, as his campaign.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: That's at seven oh five. Gary Favors returns. He's also
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: running for since a city council. He's been endorsed by
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Ken Blackwell, the Fraternal Order of Police, and the Hamilton
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: County GOP. Another viable candidate for the city, Todd Zenzer,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: maybe the next city manager. If we vote Corey Bowman.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I encourage you to do that. Todd Zendser is going
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: to give us a breakdown the latest from Citizen Watchdog,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and I talked about some of the details he uncovered
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: about Iris Rollie LLC billing kind of questionable billing practices
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: details At eight oh five. As I pivot over, this
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't even in the stack of stupid but well again
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: FAFO or play stupid games, Win stupid prizes. That award
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: goes to Bethany Abigail Tara Well, thirty seven years old
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: from Maldon, Massachusetts. Uh Well, now into the watchful eye
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: of US Attorney's Office for the District of Massachusetts. She
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: was captured on the officer's video camera threatening to kill
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: officers and interfering with them performing their duties. Huh hey, Joe,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: didn't we have a local incident of a community activist
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: interfering with an officer performing her duties in downtown Cincinnati.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: That wasn't that long ago, was it yesterday? We talked
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: about Iris Rowley. Anyway, this terrible woman physically interjected herself
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: into the middle of agents while they were trying to
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: arrest someone. She was verbally abuse and attempted to physically
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: interfere with the arrest and ultimately made threatening statements to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: kill the federal officers on the scene. That's part of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the indictment that was released. She hasn't been indicted anyway.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: At one point, the threats escalated, resulting in her saying
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: out loud to the officers in their face, Charlie Kirk
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: died and we love it. We're coming for you, gonna
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: kill you close quote, which led to her being charged
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: with threatening US official, which is a felony, which also
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: carries up the ten years in prison, three years of
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: supervisor released in a quarter of a million dollars fine
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: up to I might emphasize. So they got photos of her,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: confirmed by multiple federal sources, showing her extensive tattoos, prominent
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: forehead design. It's a classic look. Facial piercings are really sweet.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: As well. I'm just describing you because you know, if
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: we're gonna stereotype one of these folks, and I think
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: she pretty much falls right in the line. Anyhow, now
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: indicted and could end up in prison for what she
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: did as a consequence of that. So might remind you
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: No King's protest tomorrow, get your nose ring out, well,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: don your nose ring and probably display those tattoos. Let's
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: se what Maureene's got this morning. Hey Maureen, how are
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: you a happy Friday? So you always a pleasure hearing
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: from you?
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Good morning, Brian. A couple things about the gas prices.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: I was at UDF last night and the manager, I'm
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: guessing it was told one of the co workers when
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I was at the checkout line. She said, you gotta
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: don't forget. You got to go change the gas price.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: And I said, is he going to raise it or
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: lower it? And she goes, well, he's going to raise it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: It's the weekend.
• 42:33
  Speaker 13: Ah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: Anyway, So I was like, Okay, now we know market
• 42:39
  Speaker 12: I mean, do market forces work anymore in gasoline world?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, going back to Tom's point, it seems as
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: if they're all working in coordination together. Somebody raises there
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: as a nickel. Everybody raises there as a nickel or yowers.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, okay, so now about the King's Movement. Yeah, now,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, na, I remind you they are the party
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: that kept us locked down in our house for two
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: years and we had to wear a mask to take
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: out our garbage. And they are the party that anointed
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris to be their candidate without a single vote.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: So I think all of that speaks for itself. Who
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: are the real kings here? And what is this all about?
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: And the the NGO's funding this. They're all going to
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: be caught in this trap because that's exactly what it is.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: The coordinated, the coordinated effort to engage in criminal conduct.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're suggesting, like I've been saying over
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and over again. Yeah, Rico, Yes, yes, no exactly. You're
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: in Florida right now, aren't you, Marie Well?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: No, I got back in town. I'm a new and
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I have a new grand baby.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Your congratulations. That's wonderful, Marie Well. I was going to
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: ask you because I pulled up the no Kings dot
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: org website to see which events were going on in Florida.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I was wondering maybe if you would be showing up
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: at teach ye the call your County courthouse in Naples.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: I read about that, and it's going to be on
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Marco Island. It's going to be oh yeah, yeah, I
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: just thought that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Joyce told my friends there to stay away from the courthouse.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: No enjoyed all three people in the greater Naples area
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: they're going to show with the No King's rally. Doesn't
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: seem like that's going to be a hot bag of
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: No King's activity. Marine.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I have one other comment about over the Rhine.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I have a friend that moved there, and she was
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: showing me her new place, and we went there, and
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: every bit of it was you've got to a combination
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: to get to your gate to the front door. You've
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: got a combination on your front door. You've got windows
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: on the first floor that only opened two inches. We
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: went to the back patio and I said, what are
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: the spikes on your fence around your patio? Here? She goes, well,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I was told that it was for the birds, so
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: that they would stay off the fence and I wouldn't
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: have to be cleaning up their messages all the time.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: She says no, and then I look down and the
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: furniture and the patio is chained down. She goes the
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: spikes are there to keep the people from stealing the
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: furniture because they've taken it three times. But she enjoyed
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: the fact that she's living there. And I couldn't get
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: out of there fast enough. I was like, she told
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: me that the person had broken broken into and everything.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: So I go to leave, and my cell phone was
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: still in her house, and so I'm frantically banging on
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: her window because I couldn't get to her front door
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: because I didn't know the combination to the gate. And
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: then so she lets me in and or she hands
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: me the phone. I take off. Well, anyway, I was
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: listening to your person you had on yesterday, the man
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: who had the podcast where he mentioned you was it
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: our and yeah, yes, yeah, So after he was on,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: he was so interesting and so great. But I went
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: on and his Facebook and was kind of looking through there. Well,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: he has an alert on there from a friend who
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: was murdered, and it was on the day I was
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: there on the street where I was, and I just
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: had chills. I thought this was a panicked to get
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: out of there. Yeah, it was interesting. So yeah, I
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: he paid a million dollars for this place, and I
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: thought you couldn't pay me a million dollars to live there.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: And all in all of that effort to prevent crime,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I mean spikes on it and having a nail your
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: furniture down. Yeah, that's not anything I would consider buying into. Nothing.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I appreciate. I appreciate you passing I do. And congratulations
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: on being grandma again. That's one. Thank you, enjoy it.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: We'll talk again real soon, Marien. Stay well. See Naples, Florida,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: No King's Protest six fifteen, right now, fifty five KRC
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• 46:32
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• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Love My Friday's here on the morning show, David. How
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: about you indeed give my regards to my father. Let's
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: see here. Well, since we're headlong into tech Friday with
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter and I didn't do the stack of stupid
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: this morning. Me get one. I had a local story.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Let me get one real quick here from the stack
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: of stupid. How is it that you are so bad
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that the community knows you collectively as Naked Gary? What Yeah?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: San Antonio, forty three year old Canyon Lake guy now
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: off to prison for ten years after exposing himself to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: a child and the child's mother. Corn Authorities in Cumbal
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: County Gary rutt In the second known to the neighborhood
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: and the community as Naked Gary. They say he started
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: to uh, well you got the phrasing, buddy button, handy there,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: joe quote. Investigators say Rutting started to pop up nude
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: phrasing in public before it escalated him confronting women and
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: touching himself and trespassing into private property. What go back?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: A couple of years, deputies out of the three hund
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: blocker Canyon Springs by reports of a nude guy trespassing.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: They said the woman there was leaving for work with
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: her toddler when the child pointed to naked Gary on
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the property. Rutten aka Naked Gary reportedly standing just a
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: few feet away, staring at the duo while touching himself.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't say he's a hockey player, though he may
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: be a fan of slapshot anyway, the woman screamed and
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: told Rutten to leave. He then ran off into the wood.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Shortly later, official said a neighbor noticed the guy driving
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: off in the area. After collecting video from neighbors, deputy
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: is able to identify Rutten as naked guy in the
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: woman's report. Neighbors even told the investigators the reason they
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: got the cameras installed is because they had issues with
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: naked Gary exposing himself in the neighborhood. Deputies also identified
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: him as the man because records show he used the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: same car exposing himself to another woman nearby Dollar General.
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: Do what.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but at least it wasn't a Walmart
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Joe sence to ten years in prison for indecency with
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: a child by exposure, third degree felony, which was enhanced
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: to a second degree punishment range due to a prior
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: felony conviction. I'm sure he's making his family very proud
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and something else we need to worry about. And this
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: is actually legitimate. But on the heels of the naked
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: guy story and on in advance of Tech friddaymc dave
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: had her interesting lawsuit. I doubt it's going to go anywhere,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: but it shows you the depths to which people will
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: go to. I guess make a dollar. New Jersey teenagers
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: suing the developer of what is described as a clothes
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: removal software. They say, when she was fourteen years old,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: she posed for a photo and when she was wearing
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: a bathing suit, she posted that photo to her Instagram
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: account and alleges it was used by one of her
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: classmates to create a fake nude picture. Lawsuit alleges that
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the fake nude image of her in her classmates and
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the girl's real faces were visible, easily identifiable, and circulated
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: among the students at New Jersey's Westfield High School. Several
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: girl has learned about this that has been used as software,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: so this lawsuit has finally been launched. Fast forward a
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: few years after that incident, AI Robotics Venture Strategy three
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: lt Limited the defendant in the suit. They developed a
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: software called cloth Off, which generated images of naked people
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: against without their permission. Apparently located in the British Virgin Islands.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: This cloth Off company software developer says on the website
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: that processing images of miners, they claim, is impossible and
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: that attempting to process an image of a minor would
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: lead to an account ban. Oh and they claimed they
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: don't save any data right accord to the website. Using
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: AI to create deep nude style images raises ethical considerations.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: We encourage users to approach this with an understanding of
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: responsibility in respect of others privacy. Why in the hell
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: the end did you invent a software that automatically removes
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: clothes and creates fake nude images of people who undoubtedly
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: are going to end up being strangers anyway. Not sure
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: where this lawsuit's going to go. They also sued Telegram
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: because Telegram allowed these images to be posted and circulated.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: The evolution of artificial intelligence and the law it's going
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: to take years and years to sort this stuff out
• 51:34
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  Speaker 2: My friend, always my pleasure, Brian, and that is correct.
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  Speaker 2: We're happy to help if we can't.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: That's what you're there for. And then you do. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: know you do a great job. So mister tech Friday
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: himself joining us to talk about and introduce us to
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: a brand new phenomenon. There's someone out there that knows
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: what ghost tapping is. I'm not one of them.
• 52:29
  Speaker 14: Yeah, Brian, So this is this isn't new, but that's
• 52:32
  Speaker 14: a new term, and I think it's an interesting term.
• 52:35
  Speaker 14: And it refers to your credit cards that have a
• 52:39
  Speaker 14: chip in them that can be read from close proximity.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: The idea right tap to pay wave your card.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I never used that feature. I always stick the card
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: into the little slot. I don't know why.
• 52:50
  Speaker 14: Well, until recently, Brian, I would have told you you're
• 52:53
  Speaker 14: better off to tap. But this article the better in
• 52:57
  Speaker 14: the warning for the Better Business Bureau, Kudos to our
• 53:00
  Speaker 14: friends the Better Business bureau who are also always trying
• 53:03
  Speaker 14: to help consumers avoid the latest scams and fraud.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are.
• 53:07
  Speaker 14: Is really about skimming, Okay, skimming we've talked about before.
• 53:11
  Speaker 14: Skimming's been around for a long time and in the
• 53:15
  Speaker 14: old days it would be you know, relatively easy for
• 53:18
  Speaker 14: bad guys to put a skimmer, like on a gas
• 53:21
  Speaker 14: plump or something. And just for those who aren't familiar
• 53:23
  Speaker 14: with the term, skimmers, essentially a device that looks like
• 53:26
  Speaker 14: a credit card reader or may even fit in the
• 53:28
  Speaker 14: credit card reader on newer skimmers that are smaller, You
• 53:32
  Speaker 14: put your card in the reader, it reads the mag stripes,
• 53:34
  Speaker 14: steals your information and how the bad guys are off
• 53:37
  Speaker 14: to the races with your credit card or debit card number.
• 53:41
  Speaker 14: So the whole idea of nearfield communication n FC, which
• 53:44
  Speaker 14: is what this is based on, was the idea that
• 53:47
  Speaker 14: I don't have to put my card in the device.
• 53:49
  Speaker 14: It's got to chip on it. Theoretically, this is more secure.
• 53:53
  Speaker 14: I can just get in very close proximity to the reader.
• 53:57
  Speaker 14: The skimmer can't read the card right.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: To say, well, if they if they had the wherewithal
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: to be able to do a fake card reader. The
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: old skimmer way, don't they have the equal ability to
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: create a fake like reader of the tapper kind of thing.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Is that where we're going here, Dave?
• 54:16
  Speaker 14: That is that is where we're going, But there's a
• 54:18
  Speaker 14: second angle to it, and I would say it might
• 54:20
  Speaker 14: be a little more difficult Brian, because usually with the skimmers,
• 54:23
  Speaker 14: you know, the card reader might be flat or it
• 54:25
  Speaker 14: might be sticking out, but the skimmer could go inside it,
• 54:28
  Speaker 14: so it might be less obvious that there's a skimmer,
• 54:31
  Speaker 14: whereas these tap to pay, like if you think about
• 54:33
  Speaker 14: what that looks like on a gas plump, it's usually
• 54:35
  Speaker 14: like just a little plastic square Rctly, it would be
• 54:38
  Speaker 14: harder to put us, especially if you're paying attention. And
• 54:40
  Speaker 14: I encourage people, you know, if you're going to put
• 54:42
  Speaker 14: your card in any sort of device, feel the device.
• 54:45
  Speaker 14: Does it feel like it's been altered or pieces loose,
• 54:48
  Speaker 14: because that might indicate there's a skimmer laying over top
• 54:51
  Speaker 14: of it.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Exercising exercise skimmer hygiene.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Brian, that's where we're at.
• 54:56
  Speaker 14: You have to do these things, and I know, I
• 54:59
  Speaker 14: know people don't want to have to think every time
• 55:01
  Speaker 14: I use any kind of device that can read a
• 55:03
  Speaker 14: credit card, I gotta kind of do a thorough inspection
• 55:05
  Speaker 14: of it, but you're doing yourself a favor if you do.
• 55:08
  Speaker 14: And so the tap to pay, especially like on a
• 55:10
  Speaker 14: gas bump, you know, I think it would be harder
• 55:13
  Speaker 14: to alter that in a way that would not be obvious.
• 55:16
  Speaker 14: But that's not the only angle here, Okay. What they're
• 55:19
  Speaker 14: warning about is because these can be read at very
• 55:23
  Speaker 14: close proximity. Instead of now, when I the old school
• 55:27
  Speaker 14: pickpocket where I have to bump anyone steal your wallet,
• 55:29
  Speaker 14: I can bump into you with a skimmer quote unquote
• 55:32
  Speaker 14: in my pocket and read your card.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Isn't that handy?
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Is that a skimmer in your pocket?
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Or exactly?
• 55:40
  Speaker 14: Sadly, that's where we're at now, Brian. So you know,
• 55:42
  Speaker 14: the advice here is as always awareness, You know, you
• 55:46
  Speaker 14: have to be aware that this is a problem before
• 55:48
  Speaker 14: you could do anything to solve it. But the bottom
• 55:50
  Speaker 14: line is they make essentially faraday cage wallets persons, et cetera.
• 55:55
  Speaker 14: That you could even just put a bunch of aluminum
• 55:58
  Speaker 14: foil or something in your wallet that would probably.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Stop it, but they go off your head.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I do, Brian.
• 56:03
  Speaker 14: I just roll a little off my giant ten full
• 56:06
  Speaker 14: hat and keep my credit cards inside that each time
• 56:08
  Speaker 14: I go out of the house, you know, and then
• 56:10
  Speaker 14: I have my own little ten foot wallet. But you
• 56:13
  Speaker 14: can buy wallets and persons specifically designed to stop this.
• 56:17
  Speaker 14: And you know, obviously, you know if someone is trying
• 56:20
  Speaker 14: to get very close to you in a public setting.
• 56:23
  Speaker 14: Now obviously, if you're a concert jammed in with a
• 56:25
  Speaker 14: bunch of people, that's one thing, but you know it
• 56:27
  Speaker 14: might be because they're trying to read your card. The
• 56:30
  Speaker 14: best events against this really is just get yourself an
• 56:32
  Speaker 14: RFID blocking wallet or purse. It's also handy if it's
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: a bigger type of bag where you can put your
• 56:40
  Speaker 14: phone in it, because that will actually absolutely disconnect your phone,
• 56:44
  Speaker 14: right that's all These things are designed so that no
• 56:46
  Speaker 14: electronic signals go in or out, so you could have
• 56:49
  Speaker 14: the dual benefit of actually getting your phone off the
• 56:51
  Speaker 14: grid if you wanted to for some specific reason. But yeah, sadly,
• 56:55
  Speaker 14: to me, Brian, this just shows that the criminals are
• 56:58
  Speaker 14: very creative and they're always looking for new ways to
• 57:00
  Speaker 14: scam you. And you know, regardless of the technology, they're
• 57:05
  Speaker 14: almost always able to come up with some sort of
• 57:07
  Speaker 14: way to steal your money if you make it easy
• 57:10
  Speaker 14: for him.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Well, opportunity to make some quick, easy money. They're there
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: to do that every single time. Got an illustration of
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: that every week, Dave. Just it's scary. It's a scary
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: world badly, but to fix a fair day wallet, you
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. From that point forward.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: To stick around, we got more to talk about, including
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Microsoft's Voice Clone artificial intelligence apparently is scary. That next
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: first word for Zimmer Heating and Airy five kr DE
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  Speaker 1: talk Station six thirty nine. It's about krc DE talk
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  Speaker 1: Station taking us back to seventy six. Were you a
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  Speaker 1: kiss span Dave Hatter Tech Friday, Dave had to brought
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  Speaker 1: to you by interest it.
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  Speaker 2: Brian.
• 57:53
  Speaker 14: I'm in a little bit of mourning at the moment
• 57:55
  Speaker 14: because not only was I a kiss fan, I practically
• 57:57
  Speaker 14: worshiped Ace Frehley as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is passing yesterday has left me in a very
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: bad mood.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: To be perfectly honest, I'm sorry.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I appreciate the hat tip job.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: That's you know. I mentioned in the program the only
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Kiss on my own and I did get a copy
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: of Destroyer back when I was eleven. That was the
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: extent of my Kiss involvement. Lasted about fifteen minutes, and
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: then I moved on with my wife. I know, I'm
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I may be the minority in terms of you know kiss.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: It's okay, Brian, I'll just tell you a quick story.
• 58:25
  Speaker 14: So in nineteen seventy nine, when I was in sixth grade,
• 58:28
  Speaker 14: I talked my Marine Corps grandpa, World War Two veteran
• 58:32
  Speaker 14: Purple Heart winner into taking me and three of my
• 58:35
  Speaker 14: friends sixth grade friends to see Kiss with Judas Priest
• 58:38
  Speaker 14: at the Colia.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 58:40
  Speaker 14: Yeah, he was not happy. I'll just leave it at that,
• 58:43
  Speaker 14: but I thought it was the most amazing thing ever.
• 58:46
  Speaker 14: And yeah it was just I was a huge Kiss
• 58:48
  Speaker 14: fan and Ace was my guy.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Is that your first show? Is that your first live concert?
• 58:52
  Speaker 14: Was first concert ever? Yes, with Judas Priest? And now
• 58:55
  Speaker 14: you know why I'm all messed up like I am.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Bro Yeah, well, you know when I saw my first
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: con Consered solo. We actually all wanted to see the
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Doobie Brothers on Thanksgiving night back in Geez sometime in
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the mid seventies. But the first concert I went to
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: where I was unattended, Mom dropped us off heart Dog
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: in a Butterfly tour. Nice festival seeding before the Who
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: concert incident anyway, often a weird tangent on that one's
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: rest in pece as freely. Why is Microsoft's voice clone
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence scary?
• 59:25
  Speaker 14: Dave Hatter, Well, all of these voice cleaning capabilities are scary.
• 59:29
  Speaker 14: This Microsoft thing was called Windows Speak to Me, and
• 59:31
  Speaker 14: it was really designed for people who were having like
• 59:34
  Speaker 14: medical issues where they might be losing their voice. But
• 59:37
  Speaker 14: it really points out and this technology just gets better
• 59:41
  Speaker 14: and better and better all the time. And I cannot
• 59:44
  Speaker 14: reiterate enough to people how easy it is to clone
• 59:47
  Speaker 14: someone's voice. Now I get told all the time, well,
• 59:50
  Speaker 14: I'm not a celebrity like Brian Thomas or some TV
• 59:53
  Speaker 14: news reporter, how would you get my voice?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: And my answer was always.
• 59:56
  Speaker 14: Well, even if you don't use social media, if you
• 59:59
  Speaker 14: have a voicemail greeting on your phone, your office phone,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 14: your cell phone, your home phone, if I call that,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 14: I can record your voice from that and put it
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 14: into one of these voice cloning models. Again, in this case,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 14: Microsoft's Windows Speak to Me, which is never speak for me, rather,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 14: which is really never fully materialized and probably good because
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 14: again a lot of concerns have been raised about it,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 14: but I can easily clone your voice and make something
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 14: that sounds exactly like you. I can leave messages, and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 14: as this technology progresses, you know, possibly even have a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 14: real time conversation with someone. One of my warnings to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 14: folks is if you get a phone call and it's
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 14: from someone who you seem to know, and there's a
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 14: weird pause every time they answer you after you speak,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 14: it is entirely possible that they are literally typing in
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 14: the response, hitting a button and the computer is generating
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 14: what you're hearing on the other end. And as far
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 14: fast as this might sound, Brian, there are well documented
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 14: cases where people have been scammed individuals and companies. There's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 14: the CEO of Ferrari's voice was cloned and used to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 14: try to scam the CFO of Ferrari. This is all
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 14: well documented, so to me, while this particular technology is
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 14: kind of half baked and it doesn't look like it's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 14: probably going to be released partially because of some of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 14: these kind of concerns, anyone right now can go to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 14: a search and find a website that they can sign
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 14: up for a free account. I've done this to prove
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 14: that this works and clone someone's voice. And in fact,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 14: just one last thing on this, I had a reporter
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 14: out of Columbus call me up, Steve Levine. We actually
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 14: did an interview where we got out his phone, we
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 14: played his voicemail greeting and recorded it with my computer.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 14: And the article hasn't aired yet, they're saving it until November.
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  Speaker 14: But you'll literally be able to watch me type and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 14: hit a button. His voice comes out after you watch
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 14: me recording his voice office phone.
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  Speaker 2: It's real.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's so real, Dave. You brought this
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: up before I went out to lunch with my mom
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: and multiple weeks ago, and I said, if you ever
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: get a call from me and it's one of those,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I'm at the police station. I've been arrested. Any call
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: suggesting that I need money, Mom, I will never ever
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: ever call you and ask for money or anything like that.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I said, that's a red flag in and of itself.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I said, we need to establish a code word. So
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: if you ever are questioning whether or not it's me
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: on the line, then ask this question, what is our password?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: And artificial intelligence won't know it. They could. There's no
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: way in hell, anyone could ever know what the word
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: is that we established together.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: So that's an easy fix, and that's the best fix.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 14: The next best fix is to try to ask something
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 14: that only that person would know. But keep in mind,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 14: there's so much data leaked about us now finding a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 14: question that the bad guys might not know the answer
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 14: to is getting increasingly difficult.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: The best thing is to do what you just describe.
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  Speaker 14: Brian, have a secret phrase that's only known between you
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 14: and your family, your partner, whatever, so that when this happens,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 14: because it will eventually probably happen to you, that's you know,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 14: you have at that defense in place.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, and I acknowledge that there is a lot
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: of data out there, but you'd have to say something
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: like the actual suggestion, like, let's say the word we
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: chose is the dog's name. If you say what's your
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: dog's name, that's information name might have. But if you say,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: what's our secret password, yes, there's no way in hell
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: anybody could ever know even what category your password is in.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: So exactly that's the question. That is definitely the best
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: way to try to defend against this.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, what is our password? Period, you're out of the trouble,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: so take the time to do that. It doesn't work
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: in a corporate environment though, because what CEO could actually
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: pass down this information without that type of question and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: answer being brought to everybody's light and becoming well known.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: So it only works I think in familial environments are
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: between close friends. Anyhow, something to keep in mind to
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  Speaker 1: protect you. Six four to fifty five krc DE Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: Always enjoy Fridays with Dave Hatter. Check Friday with Dave
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  Speaker 1: had again. Interest it dot com David crew will help
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: you out with your business computer needs. So you got
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: to beig conference coming up day? What's this all about?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 14: Yeah, Brian, it's conference season today. Actually is NKU Cyber eighteen.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 14: That's an annual conference that's geared towards cybersecurity professionals, be
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 14: Queen Citycon.
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  Speaker 2: This is our third year of this.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 14: It's a three day conference here in Cincinnati downtown at
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 14: the Hyatt. One of the things that's nice about it
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 14: is whether you're sort of a hobbyist or a professional,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 14: we're anywhere in between. A student that's looking to get
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 14: into the field, someone that's recently graduated. There'll be something
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 14: there for you. You can come for one day, you
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 14: can come for all three days. In addition to listening
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 14: to people like me talk about various topics, there are
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 14: all kinds of what we nerds like to call villages.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 14: So if you want to learn about a certain thing,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 14: like even a lock, pick village Brian. Because you know
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 14: physical security. This isn't just cybersecurity, it's only info security,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 14: information security, which includes physical security. So there's first time
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 14: I ever picked a lock was last year where you
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 14: just got all these different locks and people that know
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 14: how to do it.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 14: So it's a cool event three days November seventh through
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 14: the ninth. You can find it online in queencitycon dot org.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 14: I encourage people check it out again if you're a student,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 14: if you know a student, there student discounts if you're
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 14: someone that's about ready to graduate from college.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Because it's really a conference.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 14: For the information security community, by the information security community.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 14: It's all put on by volunteers. Every single person involved
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 14: in this is a volunteer and no matter what your
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 14: interest is in this, there'll be something there, whether it's
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 14: a village or a speaker or a topic. Great education
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 14: and network event and a lot of fun. And I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 14: always like to say, Brian, nerds of a feather flock together.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 14: So if you're a nerd and into this kind of thing,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 14: this is the place you want to be. November seventh
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 14: through the ninth. The Queen City Con all right website
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 14: it is Queencitycon dot org. Volunteer opportunities, The speaker slots
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 14: are all full at this point. Volunteer opportunities. You can
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 14: get involved in these villages and it's just a great
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 14: way to network, have some fun in a lighthearted environment.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Everyone's welcome.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 14: And again you can see the list of speakers and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 14: the topics out there, probably anything you could even remotely
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 14: be interested in related to cybersecurity and slice information security.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 14: There's someone talking about it at this event.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: And you mentioned networking, which suggests me potential career opportunity
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: sort of focus. Are there still careers in tech? And
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I know that's your job, but I keep thinking about AI,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: and just from a coding perspective, because as you know,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: and I think you'll confirm, so much of the coding
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: has already been done already. It's sort of cut and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: taste kind of reality. And I would imagine that artificial
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: intelligence could probably engage in the process of even gathering, cutting,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: and pasting things together to deal with programming. So is
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: that the direction we're going.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 14: What you've touched on An interesting topic in the field
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 14: artificial intelligence coding is off called vibe coding. This idea
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 14: that you can just open up something like rock and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 14: tell it what you want and it'll throw out some code.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 14: And while that is true, I think people are finding
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 14: that it's a lot. It's really good at here's some
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 14: programming code, some software, and it's got a bug. Help
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 14: me figure out what the bug in this is. It's
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 14: really good at that sort of thing. It's also really
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 14: good at creating small bits of code to do certain
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 14: tasks what it can't do yet. And we're also finding
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 14: it doesn't typically doesn't focus on security and things like that,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 14: so it creates code that will frequently be full of vulnerabilities.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 14: Is you can't just sit down and say, write me
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 14: an enterprise relationship management software.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Application for my business.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: So that information.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it just like if you told someone if you
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 14: sat down and told a programmer that unless the programmer
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 14: knows all about ERP and business and so forth, they
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 14: wouldn't know how to do it either. That's the exactly
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 14: the problem, Brian, gotcha. And what you're seeing is a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 14: lot of people will use these tools. It'll throw out
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 14: a bunch of code. Well, the code is garbage. It
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 14: doesn't really do what you want. And you know, as
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 14: a guy who spent twenty five years doing that before
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 14: I got into a full cybersecurity play, you know where
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 14: most projects would go wrong wouldn't be that the programmers
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 14: couldn't write the code to make the computer do what
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 14: you wanted. It's there was a disconnect between the people
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 14: asking you for what something to build and you not
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 14: knowing the right questions to ask to get the knowledge
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 14: you need to.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Build what they want.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 14: So you know, I'm not saying we won't get to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 14: a place in the future where you know, you won't
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 14: need programmers. But I've been hearing that since the day
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 14: I walked out of college in ninety two, and we
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 14: still need programmers fair enough.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious to ask the question because you know,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: my son does a lot of that computer type work, Dave,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: and just want to know what, God, what is futures
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: all about.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 14: I think I think the market is changing somewhat because
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 14: of AI, and certainly AI can be a tool if
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 14: you understand how to use it career, that will make
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 14: you a lot more productive. But you know, there's a
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 14: lot of problems with it. We've talked about the hallucination
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 14: angle before. And if I don't really know anything about
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 14: software and I have it write some code for me,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 14: and I don't really know how to evaluate, does that
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 14: code do what I want? Is that code secure? Is
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 14: that code going to solve my problem? Sometimes I'm worse
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 14: oft than if I just figured out how to.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Do it myself.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 14: So we're moving fast in a direction to where there
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 14: may be a bigger impact on these jobs, but for
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 14: the time being, in certain spaces there are some serious impacts.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 14: But overall, we still need people to do a lot
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 14: of this stuff, and people to check the output of
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 14: these things to make sure that it's correct.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Check your work important important advice for all people using
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. Check.
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  Speaker 14: Especially Brian like the attorneys he show up in courtat
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 14: brief that refer to cases that never existed.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: It's a big problem.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: It's beyond a problem, and it just suggests such a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: gross level of InCom put in some stupidity that I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: can't believe they even got through law school, let alone
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: past a bar exam. Yeah, I'm talking to you, not
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: checking your citations. Dave Patter, always a pleasure having another
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  Speaker 1: fifty five Cassey Morning Show interest it dot Com. Thanks
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: for Interest for sponsoring the segment. Always valuable information. And
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: enjoy yourself at the conference, Dave. And so maybe you
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: see a lot of my listeners there accepting your invitation
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: to show up. We'll talk next Friday. I hope you
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: have a wonderful weekend.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Ah, It's my pleasure. Brian Joe, thanks for the kiss.
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  Speaker 1: Nod in Ace Rayley, There you go, six fifty seven
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  Speaker 1: It's seven oh six. It is Friday. Stating the obvious,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: but I like to remind people put a smile on
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: your face just for the fact that it's Friday. Another
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: reason to put a smile on your We do have
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: some great options as we fast approach the November elections.
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  Speaker 1: Since I City Council, we have a multitude of candidates
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  Speaker 1: to choose from. Some I think are worth voting for
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  Speaker 1: and some or others. Some have a demonstrable record of
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  Speaker 1: success and have shown the logic and reason and maybe
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  Speaker 1: some really great ideas for the city, oftentimes rejected by
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  Speaker 1: the overwhelming presence of one hundred percent Democrats on council.
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  Speaker 1: How about going with the charter right? How about voting
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Welcome back, Steve good And it's always a
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  Speaker 1: pleasure talking with.
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  Speaker 5: You, Brian, and thank you for the kind words. Thank
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  Speaker 5: you very much.
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  Speaker 1: It's there. They come from the heart, my friend. And
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  Speaker 1: I just just doubling back on all the times you've
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  Speaker 1: been on the program to talk about some the pending
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  Speaker 1: legal cases that have drawing national attention or even local attention.
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  Speaker 1: You do such a wonderful job boiling it down to
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  Speaker 1: you know, easily understandable principles and facts, but you stay
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  Speaker 1: right on top of it. And I know you do
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  Speaker 1: a great job representing your client. So I just thinks
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  Speaker 1: for all the time you spent with my listeners and
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  Speaker 1: me helping us unpack these things over the years and
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  Speaker 1: let us try to unpack what's going on in downtown Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: So running for council early Verarting's open, get in touch
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  Speaker 1: and vote for Steve. So it sounds to me like
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  Speaker 1: Afta Purvol is now admitting we have a problem with
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  Speaker 1: crime in downtown Cincinnati, because forever he was saying no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no, you don't believe your own eyes. You just
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  Speaker 1: you have this wrong perception. Crimes actually down, and yet
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  Speaker 1: every morning, like today, we wake up another person murdered
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  Speaker 1: in downtown sinceinnat two o'clock this morning. And he has
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  Speaker 1: now released some updated crime fightings quote unquote solutions. I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing the quote things with my fingers, including accepting four
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  Speaker 1: days of Ohio state patrol in the city of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to an entire month's worth, which is what
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  Speaker 1: the governor offered him, among other things. Andre Ewing's on
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  Speaker 1: yesterday saying, wait a second, why wouldn't you just take
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  Speaker 1: everything this state has to offer. We'll supplement the depleted
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  Speaker 1: ranks and let's see if that works. So by even
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  Speaker 1: accepting something for the state, I believe he is acknowledging
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  Speaker 1: as a crime problem and pivoting over there was rumors
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  Speaker 1: that he was getting ready to fire police Chief Teresa Thiji.
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  Speaker 1: I guess because of crime. How do you unpackage this part,
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  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, well, the headline here is really simple,
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  Speaker 5: which is the city's, you know, four year experiment in
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  Speaker 5: not really enforcing crime our basic laws downtown is a failure.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, both the mayor and and the
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  Speaker 5: chief have been saying that their focus has been on
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  Speaker 5: compliance and not enforcement, and I didn't know what in
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  Speaker 5: the world that meant, but you know, what it basically
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  Speaker 5: has boiled down to is whether it's open air pot smoking, loitering, fighting,
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  Speaker 5: breaking the curfew which has always been in existence for
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  Speaker 5: our youth, or just other you know, terrible anti social behaviors,
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  Speaker 5: public urination and the homeless population that it's been downtown, graffiti,
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  Speaker 5: you name it. They're not really arresting anyone. The directives
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  Speaker 5: to the police from the chief, through the mayor and
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  Speaker 5: the city manager and bought into my council was we're
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  Speaker 5: just going to tell people to move on. We might
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  Speaker 5: give them a warning, we're not going to enforce because
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  Speaker 5: we don't want bad crime stats downtown. And what has
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  Speaker 5: happened over four years is there is this sense of
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  Speaker 5: lawlessness which has now attracted real violence. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: some people call this the broken windows theory. When you
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  Speaker 5: let the little things go over time, they become big things.
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  Speaker 5: And that is what has happened right in the heart
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  Speaker 5: of downtown in and over the Rhine where through three
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  Speaker 5: CDC the city and its partners of the investment over
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  Speaker 5: three billion dollars in rehabbing old properties and bringing businesses
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  Speaker 5: in and have lured all this private investment in and
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  Speaker 5: now it is all in danger because of this bizarre
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  Speaker 5: politically correct and non enforcement quote quote compliance over in
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  Speaker 5: theory where they have a large homeless population move in.
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  Speaker 5: Drugs are back, violence is back. The downtown reeks of
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  Speaker 5: pot smoke during the middle of the workday, and people
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  Speaker 5: don't feel safe. My office bart as you know, is
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  Speaker 5: right off this street, right by Government Square. Our staff
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  Speaker 5: is afraid to walk down the street to go to
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  Speaker 5: the subway or wherever they go for lunch. They're afraid
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  Speaker 5: to go out because there have been two shootings right
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  Speaker 5: by our office during daylight hours within the last five days.
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  Speaker 5: It is a disgraceful situation and it is only a
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  Speaker 5: matter of time before we see more folks pulling out
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  Speaker 5: of downtown. Someone doesn't do something and look at I'm
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  Speaker 5: all for that. I was very early on saying that
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  Speaker 5: the chief has to go. I think she's lost the
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  Speaker 5: confidence of the rank and file. I know the FOP
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  Speaker 5: and others disagree. They think she's being made a scapegoat,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that's true to a certain extent. But
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  Speaker 5: she went along with this stuff. She had to know better.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, she was an excellent I knew were back.
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  Speaker 5: It's an excellent police officer. She was coming up through
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  Speaker 5: the ranks. You cannot have this weird social experiment. This
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  Speaker 5: is like you did in San Francisco or Portland, where
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  Speaker 5: you don't enforce basic laws and not see an uptick
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  Speaker 5: over time in real violent crime. And that's what's happened here.
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  Speaker 5: When you strip everything away, it's very plain they have
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  Speaker 5: a public record of this where they made a decision
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  Speaker 5: not to enforce these smaller things like in a pot, smoking, loitering, graffiti,
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  Speaker 5: public urination, and now you have all. Now you have murders, fights,
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  Speaker 5: gun battles, literally gun battles. In front of the Federal
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  Speaker 5: Courthouse on Monday night, two guys shooting at each other
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  Speaker 5: at five point fifteen in the afternoon. It's insane.
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  Speaker 1: So Steve Gooden, what I'm hearing is that while the
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  Speaker 1: statistics themselves may suggest crime is down, the nature of
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  Speaker 1: policing under the current administration is to not issue citations
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  Speaker 1: or otherwise arrest people, which would be reflected on the
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  Speaker 1: crime statistics book. So move along, son, you know, put
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  Speaker 1: the knife down or drop the gun and move along.
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  Speaker 1: That's not going to get reported. So it gives the
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  Speaker 1: appearance that crime has actually done, at least statistically, while
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  Speaker 1: the reality is everybody sees with their own eyes that
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  Speaker 1: it's not.
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  Speaker 5: That's exactly right. And actually and it goes way deeper
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  Speaker 5: than that, Brian. I mean, we know and I know
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  Speaker 5: of two instances for you know, personally where I know
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  Speaker 5: people who were involved or whose property was damaged, where
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  Speaker 5: people have had their windows shot out, like particularly in
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  Speaker 5: the West End, their car windows and in one case
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  Speaker 5: the window to their home shot out, and it was
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  Speaker 5: just listed, you know, as a property crime, you know,
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  Speaker 5: instead of the gun Like you know, you have a
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  Speaker 5: gun fire in your neighborhood, that's very different than the
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  Speaker 5: kid throwing a rock through your window or something, or
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  Speaker 5: you know, something that you know from you know, so
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  Speaker 5: that shows up as just like a small property in
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  Speaker 5: fraction because no one is arrested. So we know they've
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  Speaker 5: been playing games in other ways in terms of how
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  Speaker 5: they And that's one of the things that I really
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  Speaker 5: do kind of fault the current police command with is
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  Speaker 5: they've gone along with that. They know that it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: reflect the lived reality of what's out there the rank.
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  Speaker 5: And while police officers know that too, I mean they
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  Speaker 5: know the city has become more violent, particularly in terms
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  Speaker 5: of gun violence, and not just downtown. The gun violence
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  Speaker 5: has popped up in numerous other neighborhoods. We know we
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  Speaker 5: have an uptick, a real strong uptick in property cars
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  Speaker 5: in carthaffs and neighborhoods like Hyde Park and Outlookout that's
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  Speaker 5: not being addressed or mentioned at all. And that's something
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  Speaker 5: that is undeniable by any statistic I know one person
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  Speaker 5: on a in Mount Lookout who actually had his car
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  Speaker 5: stolen out of his garage two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know.
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  Speaker 5: There are professional his attached garage. It as a burdentary
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  Speaker 5: the god that he gets up and goes down to
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  Speaker 5: work in the morning. Four cars have been broken into
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  Speaker 5: in a street and his car has gone from his
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  Speaker 5: own garage, and this stuff just isn't being talked about
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  Speaker 5: because that doesn't fit the narrative. They want to argue
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  Speaker 5: that in theory, crime is down overall in the city,
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  Speaker 5: but depending on where you live, it has become very,
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  Speaker 5: very dangerous. And look, it's not just about downtown. I
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  Speaker 5: think we have been too centric in terms of putting
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  Speaker 5: development dollars downtown and not investing in the neighborhoods in
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  Speaker 5: terms of development. But if we lose what they've built downtown,
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  Speaker 5: it's going to be a multi billion dollar tragedy. And
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people, particularly the small business owners who've
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  Speaker 5: been allured into downtown thinking it's a good place to
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  Speaker 5: invest their life savings and open a restaurant or a
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  Speaker 5: small shop or whatever. They're the ones who are really, really,
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  Speaker 5: really going to get hurt here. And it's already starting
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  Speaker 5: to happen. And it's an absolute tragedy, and it was
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  Speaker 5: absolutely avoidable with a little bit of foresight and common.
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  Speaker 1: Sense and a different administration. Time for a change in administration.
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  Speaker 1: Vote up goodin dot com will bring Steve gooddenback on
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  Speaker 1: It works on everything except the stenty five KALKST seven
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  Speaker 1: Thomas with Steve Gooden right for since a City Council
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  Speaker 1: Steve vote Gooden dot com. Real quick here, Steve, before
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  Speaker 1: we leave the crime component, I just want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure I'm clear on this, at least as I perceive it.
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  Speaker 1: After that, Parvall and share Loong City Manager are the
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  Speaker 1: ones that decided that she would be chief. They selected
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  Speaker 1: her over the objections of the police department, which wanted
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  Speaker 1: somebody else. But that's okay, fine. They picked her because
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  Speaker 1: they're allowed to after the passage of Issue five some
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  Speaker 1: years ago. They apparently are directing her. You mentioned how
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  Speaker 1: good of a police officer police Chief Fiji was and
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  Speaker 1: that she has qualified for the job. So I presume
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  Speaker 1: she has a sound understanding of the laws and arresting
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  Speaker 1: people and what the laws are on the books and
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  Speaker 1: who's subject to arrest, but that it's not happening now,
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  Speaker 1: which means she is following the I will I'll characterize
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  Speaker 1: it as woke politics of Parval and Cheryl Long and
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  Speaker 1: the current administration. So she's take their directive and moving
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  Speaker 1: in this low arrest sort of you know, move along
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  Speaker 1: type police patrol environment, which now they're threatening to fire
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  Speaker 1: her because of crime in downtown Cincinnati, and they're firing
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  Speaker 1: her because she followed what they instructed her to do.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way I'm hearing it. Am I you think
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  Speaker 1: I'm close.
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  Speaker 5: I think you're if anything, you're being too charitable to
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  Speaker 5: what happened. I mean, look, I mean what they're doing
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  Speaker 5: isn't just woke. I mean woke is some like goofy
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  Speaker 5: college professor fighting about pronouns. This is extraordinarily woke. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: this is all This is like the woke stuff taken
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  Speaker 5: to a point where it's destructive and sort of. Yes, absolutely,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean they really have. And I know
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  Speaker 5: this from a personal conversation I had with the chief
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  Speaker 5: about eighteen months ago. Of course, she's very mad at
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  Speaker 5: me now because I've been publicly critical over so we're
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  Speaker 5: not really talking anymore. But I mean, you know, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 5: they made a conscious decision to move away from a
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  Speaker 5: lot of enforcement. I mean the speed humps that you
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  Speaker 5: see all over the city are designed to slow drivers
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  Speaker 5: down and are blatantly designed to to to as they say,
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  Speaker 5: lessen police interactions with citizens. So basically, instead of patrolling
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  Speaker 5: the streets and enforcing speeding you got these speed humps. So,
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  Speaker 5: as I say, every time you drive over one of
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  Speaker 5: these things, and they spent millions on them, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you're seeing like some defunding of the police right in
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  Speaker 5: the speed humps. It is an excuse to keep police
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  Speaker 5: staffing levels low. It is an excuse not to enforce
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  Speaker 5: our speeding laws and actually pull drivers over, which we
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  Speaker 5: know is one of the most powerful ways of getting
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  Speaker 5: guns off the street. From my time as a prosecutor,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it was a very common occurrence for someone
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  Speaker 5: to pull over someone for a traffic infraction. You roll
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  Speaker 5: down the window, the person either smells of alcohol or
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  Speaker 5: marijuana or what have you, do, you have grounds to
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  Speaker 5: get them out of the car, and all look there's
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  Speaker 5: a gun on the front seat. And then you could's
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  Speaker 5: that's one of the ways you get guns. That you
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  Speaker 5: used traffic laws to actually get guns off the street.
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  Speaker 5: We don't do that anymore per her direction. And you're right, look,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know I was a prosecutor for many years.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I started that job almost twenty five years
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  Speaker 5: ago this month actually, and you know Fiji, as a
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  Speaker 5: police officer back in and the States, really did have
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  Speaker 5: the support of the rank and file. She comes from
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  Speaker 5: a great family of police officers. I mean, she was
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  Speaker 5: out there, you know, on the street making arrests. She
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  Speaker 5: came up through the rank. She was a police officer
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  Speaker 5: for I think thirty one years. Nobody's going to have
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  Speaker 5: anything bad to say about what she did as a
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  Speaker 5: police officer, but as a chief she went along with
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  Speaker 5: this agenda. She had participated in the really blatantly political
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  Speaker 5: vibe that they have in terms of policing there. She
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  Speaker 5: wasn't pushing back publicly. She was an apologist for this
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: agenda that the mayor has. She provided political cover for him.
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  Speaker 5: And one of the things that really turned my stomach
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  Speaker 5: is she's actually a piece of mail just two days
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  Speaker 5: ago with one of the I think one of the
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  Speaker 5: most lost city council member is this guy, Mark Jefferies.
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  Speaker 5: He's the most out there I think of the group
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  Speaker 5: because he pretends to be like a business guy but
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  Speaker 5: really is part of this woke mess. And she's like
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  Speaker 5: in the campaign literature with them in uniform, which is
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: blatantly illegal. I mean, she's been playing this political game
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  Speaker 5: with the folks who are supervising her, and it's just wrong.
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  Speaker 5: And i mean, look, if you're going to live by
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: the swords, you dive of the sword. She's become a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: political actor right now, and she's now her career is
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: going to meet its demise on political alliance because it's
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  Speaker 5: politically expedient to get rid of her.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what I'm reminded of George Orwell animal
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  Speaker 1: farm and Boxer fought for the cause and died for
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  Speaker 1: the car and ended up being sent off to the
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  Speaker 1: glue factory after serving the cause as one of the
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  Speaker 1: most loyal folks. So here she is serving the aftab
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  Speaker 1: per of all woke agenda cause, not doing law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: the way she understood it and used to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And then because crime is bad and because people aren't
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  Speaker 1: happy the current status law enforcement, she ends up losing
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  Speaker 1: your job maybe because of that. Interesting that Steve Gooden, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Porter Wright's a place to find
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden for lost stuff. Votegodin dot com online to
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  Speaker 1: help him out with the campaign and see up right
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  Speaker 1: hand corner, donate, get involved, maybe due to some door
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  Speaker 1: knock and get us a yard sign. Steve, I wish
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  Speaker 1: you all the best. I appreciate you willing us to
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  Speaker 1: come on the show and talk about these issues. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you'd be a welcome, welcome edition for the
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  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati as a council member.
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  Speaker 5: Again, thank you. I think they need a grumpy, middle
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  Speaker 5: aged man. That's what I bring, so thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: Self appointed moniker. Thanks Steve good and grumpy Man. We'll
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: have you back on again soon, hopefully before the election
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: again stick around. Speaking of a folks runner for Since
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  Speaker 1: A City Council, Gary Favors returns today and a happy
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  Speaker 1: one to you, Brian Thomas. Please to welcome on the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: heels of talking with Steve Gooden running for since A
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  Speaker 1: City Council. We have another city council candidate who's gotten
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  Speaker 1: some outstanding endorsements. Welcome to the fifty five care City
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  Speaker 1: at Morning Show, Gary Favors. You can find him online.
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  Speaker 1: Help out his campaign, maybe donate to it it Favors
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  Speaker 1: for the word for not the number Favors for Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Gary, it's great to have you on the
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  Speaker 1: morning show.
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  Speaker 13: Thank you, Brian for having me this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Now real quick here before I let my listeners know
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: about these outstanding endorsements. What is prompting you to run
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  Speaker 1: for Cincinnati City Council. I know you've been twenty five
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: years as a special education teacher with the Cincinnai Public Schools.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: You are a decorated Army veteran, and salute to you
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: for your service to our country. What does Gary Favors
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  Speaker 1: want to do for the City of Cincinnati as a
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  Speaker 1: council member?
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  Speaker 13: Well, the first thing, number one, thank you for recognizing
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  Speaker 13: my service as a veteran and someone who's been in
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 13: service as a teacher veteran. I believe in service, Number one.
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  Speaker 13: I believe in serving people. And the city of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 13: is near and dear to my heart. I graduated from
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  Speaker 13: Roger Bacon High School, went off to college Carson Newman College,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 13: then did a twelve year stint in the military where
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 13: I served in the Gulf War, and then came back
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 13: and pursued my career in education. So I have a
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  Speaker 13: history of service, I have a history of serving people,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 13: and really at this time, we need leaders. We need
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 13: leaders that will step up and lead the city and
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 13: bring the city back to what I call its original state.
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  Speaker 13: We have a lot of crime that's evident last night
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 13: and this morning, and so there's just a lot of
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  Speaker 13: challenges in the city that we need to address, and
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  Speaker 13: I feel it's time for me to step up and
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 13: put my skill sets in action.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of those folks that agrees with you and
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  Speaker 1: has endorsed you, a gentlemen who comes my morning show program.
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  Speaker 1: He's often he is willing to do so, a guy
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  Speaker 1: that I love and I've known for years, Ken Blackwell.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: You've got Ken Blackwell's endorsement. I think that is an
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: impressive endorsement that because those don't necessarily come easy, mister favors.
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  Speaker 13: No, it doesn't. And I grew up under the Ken
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  Speaker 13: Blackwell here as a council member, as he was a
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 13: council member and a mayor, so I got to see
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  Speaker 13: Ken Blackwell in action.
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  Speaker 5: So I.
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  Speaker 13: Take that endorsement near and dear to my heart rather
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  Speaker 13: and hold it in treasure that he would.
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  Speaker 1: Endorse me.
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  Speaker 13: So it is a great honor along with some of
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 13: the other endorsements that I have. But I think that
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  Speaker 13: is probably one of the greatest honors that have someone
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 13: at his stature.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man that carries a lot of endorsement, but most
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: notly for me. But ignore my opinion, but my listening
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: audience thoroughly appreciates with the work of Ken Blackwell over
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: the years. You also not to understate the value of it.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: The Fraternal Order of Police have endorsed you, the Hamilon
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: County GOP has endorsed you, and you also got the
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: endorsement of the Right to Life for Greater Cincinnati. So
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: you're racking them up, Gary, and I think a lot
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: of people see some really really positive in you, and
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: I want to pivot over as we go to the
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: break to to ask I want to ask you about
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  Speaker 1: the youth I know you've had. You actually taught incarcerated
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: juveniles facing charges of murder and aggravated robbery, rape, and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: some other very serious crimes when you're over teaching at
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: the Hamlin County Justice Center. I want to talk to
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: you about your experience there, because we seem to have
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: a tremendous problem with young people these days. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: more with Council candidate Gary Favors find him online Favors
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  Speaker 1: for Cincinnati dot com. After I mentioned foreign exchange, because
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I want you to have a Great Automotive Repair g
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: detalk station. Have you Friday Ron Thomas talking with since
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  Speaker 1: a council candidate, Gary Favors favors for Cincinnati dot com
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: where you find Gary learned about his issues and what
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: he's all about. And I know you have education experience
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: or you were a teacher. You were twenty five years
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: of a special education teacher and since the public schools.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: But also you did some work at the Hamilton County
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: Justice Center where some juveniles in jail and they had
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: some serious crimes they were charged with. You worked with them,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: you reached out with them. You tried to be an
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  Speaker 1: inspiration for them. You've got to, you know, singing praise
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: from Marion Alswagger, the Adult Education Coordinated. There are a
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Hamilton County Sheriff's office on your web page. Gary, we
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: have a problem with youth in downtown Cincinnat. Now you
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: have to have provol Recently, I guess decided that he's
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: going to allow Police Chief Thiji and the police officer
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: to enforce the curfew, a curfew that was on the
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: books for a long time but rarely enforced. And there
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: may be some reasons for that, but how is it
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: and where's this problem coming from? As much time as
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: you spent with young people, do you put your finger
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: on the exact cause of these problems? Because as I
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: see from the comments about you, you're the one that
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: came in every day, listened to these young people, gave
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: them inspiration, You gave them a sense of purpose and hope.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I was back to the point my mom and dad
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  Speaker 1: did that for me. Gary. You know, if you have
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: a stable home life, you've got parents looking out for
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: you and wondering where in the hell you are at
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning. You know, that's what actually works.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the genesis of society's problems, or maybe just
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: the problems in the city of Cincinnati, or is it
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: something that transcends that, Gary.
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  Speaker 13: Well, I think Brian, you sort of not sort of
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 13: you hit it on the nail on the head. Is
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  Speaker 13: that we have lost that family piece. I grew up
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  Speaker 13: with a mom and dad who stressed education. That was
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 13: my primary job. Let's go to school, get a good education,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 13: listen to the teachers, respect one another, and to value
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  Speaker 13: my faith in God. So my parents instilled in me
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 13: the values of what and I thank God where I
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 13: am now? I would be where I am now if
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 13: it wouldn't have been for my church family. So it's
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  Speaker 13: that village. Yes, I think we've lost that village of family,
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  Speaker 13: and so that is an overwhelming issue. I think when
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  Speaker 13: our young people are doing things that are out of character,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 13: out of pocket, that they want to be heard, They
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 13: want to be listened to. And the primary thing I
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  Speaker 13: think our kids want is they want to see after
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 13: high school, can they land a job that's making a
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  Speaker 13: decent salary that they can live on and become productive citizens.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 13: I think one of the things I've often said, we've
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  Speaker 13: missed the art of the trade.
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  Speaker 1: Amen.
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  Speaker 13: It's the art of getting our kids steered in to
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  Speaker 13: jobs that will lead to high paying salary jobs that
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  Speaker 13: they want to have. So I think we need to
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 13: work with our school system to address and help them
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  Speaker 13: address some of the things that they need support on
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 13: with sin say public and helping our kids with mentorships
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  Speaker 13: in some of these trades. And I think we have
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 13: some things going on in the city, but we need
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 13: to collaborate better. We have a lot of good things
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 13: going on in the city, but it needs to be
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 13: a joint effort of collaboration. And some of these things
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 13: may be in place, but I bring those skill sets
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  Speaker 13: to the table with city council and my hope is
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 13: the voters will see that my education background, in years
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 13: of experience working at Gamble High School Woodward High School
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  Speaker 13: to help kids and to live in and to help
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  Speaker 13: families is what I believe in. And advocating for families.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: And helping families, and here's where I wanted to go,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: and I want to get your reaction to this. Quite often,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: you know, if law enforcement is left with the aftermath
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: of a terrible home life, or you know parents that
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: don't care, or parents that aren't president parents, maybe you
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: have drug or alcohol issues, whatever, they're not caring about
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: their kids. They're not raising them response, but they aren't
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: raising them to have the respect that your mom and
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: dad taught you that you know, you had to go
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: to school that was in your mom and dad insist
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: on it. Same with mine. I always mentioned the greatest
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: gift my parents ever gave me, beyond life, was education.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: They were insistent about that. All these outreach programs, teachers
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: are left with unruly students that come from these problematic
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: home lives. Would it be a better direction to focus
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: if we're going to focus government resources on something. And
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying don't have youth programs, but how about
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: programs directed at new parents or parents generally to get
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: them on the right track and remind them how important
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: they are to play an active role in their children's lives.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: Are going to end up with a you know, another
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: criminal element coming out on the streets. Is that even
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: a concept that anybody's considered, Gary, Yeah, And you're.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 13: Right on point, Brian, is that I think we haven't
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 13: looked at helping our parents because what I found that
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 13: some of our parents are very young, Yeah, and they're
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 13: trying to work. They're trying to hold out a job too.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 13: They're trying to do the best they can. And I
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 13: think a lot of our parents are trying to do
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 13: the best the best they can. A lot of our
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 13: kids are being raised by grandparents, right, and I work
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 13: with the family. A young man that's being raised by
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 13: his great great grandmother at one point if she passed away,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 13: we're talking about two to three generations. So I think
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 13: we have to look at the whole family. We have
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 13: to look at where can the church get in, Where
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 13: can and it's there is no single answer that's going
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 13: to solve the problem. But I think the church has
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 13: a huge piece of play in in our community and
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 13: helping our kids. We just need to what I call
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 13: do the basics, go back to the basics. Our community
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 13: is filled with resources. Talbot House. You've got so many
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 13: social agencies in the city that can lend a hand.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 13: How can we work together? Talvert House has an excellent
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 13: program for dads helping dads. Have a father right now
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 13: who's very involved with this child's education, and he's a
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 13: single day and I applaud him stepping up and advocating
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 13: for his child and making sure his child gets what
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 13: he needs and getting the education he so deserves. So
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 13: I just think it goes back to when I was
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 13: growing up. I had so many people. Even if I
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 13: stepped out a line, there would have been neighbors, there
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 13: would have been the church. There would have been a
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 13: whole flew of people around me saying you gotta change,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 13: You got to turn this around right and get back
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 13: on track. So I was blessed, and I do understand that,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 13: you know, parents are overwhelmed, but we need to bring
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 13: back the village that I so often talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, you know it takes that engaged parent, though
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean part of me wants to say, well,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: that's a job of a parent. You know, why would
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: we need a program to have someone actually caring about
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: their own offspring. But this is the reality we have.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: You know, I was just get an introjection with it
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: about church. It's the parents, it's the family that will
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: introduce a young person to the concept of religion. And
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. That's the way it happened to
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: my family, Gary. And when mom and dad weren't around
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: and I was hanging out with my buds, you know
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: who I was worried about looking down over me and
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: what bad things I might do. It was God right.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: There was always that extra parent right there who could
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: see everything and know everything, and you couldn't escape him.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Look one more with Gary Favors going to ask about oh,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: is that it is that all the.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: Time we have?
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Oh Gary, I'm sorry, I wanted to ask you about
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: affordable housing, but apparently you don't have any additional time.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 13: So yes, I do have to get to work and
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 13: serve my families and my kids, which I'm holding very
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 13: high scheme. But you know, weekend definitely come back good
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 13: and carry on this conversation, but Favors for Cincinnati is
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 13: my website.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Took the words right out of my mouth, Gary Favors.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. We'll get you back on before
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: the election because I do want to ask you about
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: what is affordable housing and your ideas about it. Thanks Gary,
• 1:38:54
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• 1:39:13
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• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: and see Todd Zenzer in studio. Citizen Watchdog is the
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: name of his podcast, produced by Joe Strecker. He's always
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: following what I will just boil down to Carl Shenanigans
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati. He looks for records, he
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: follows the money, He asks for documents that are supposed
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: to exist. He finds out that, well, we don't have
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: a very transparent administration in spite of the fact I
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: believe I have to have provol ran on transparency. We
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: will get to a con and a point on that
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: later in the program. Todd Zenzer, it is a pleasure
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: to have you back in former Inspector General for the
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: United States of America. Good to see you. Thank you, Brian,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: and thank you so much. And I sang your praises
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: this morning. I don't think the city of Cincinnaate knows
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: how blessed they are to have you and your understanding
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: of how things work behind the scenes, coupled with retirement,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: your willingness to go after and look for all these
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: things and do all this leg work, and have you
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: lifting to get the answers that you're looking for for
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: the residents of the city, Like what the hell are
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: tax payer dollars being used for?
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what people want. My view is
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: that people don't mind paying taxes as long as the
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: taxes that they're paying are being used properly and for
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: things that are needed.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: To be done right. I mean, you know, in the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: private industry world, we get to pick and choose who
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: is going to be the recipient of our hard earned dollars.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: We don't get any choice in the matter. At minimum,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: these people should have some measure of understanding or some
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: concept of a fiduciary obligation that it owes to you,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: me and everybody else who works and pays taxes to
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: keep them well, keep them in their salaries, and all
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: these other programs that we found. Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: And actually that's one of the big issues I have
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: with the way that iris Rollie was contracted with and
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: the way they manage that contract. I have to believe
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: that the contracting staff and the management staff at the
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: city are better than that. Did they They let they
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: let a very lax process go through and uh, you know,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: make all these payments to this contractor, and the paperwork
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: is terrible.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Terrible And if you're scratching your head, going wait, huh
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: who iris Roli is? Well, it was involved with the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: establishment of the Collaborative Agreement after the riots back in
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: what was it two thousand and one, Yes, long time ago.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: She has been a constant presence in activism, if I
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: can boil it down in the city since that time.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: She has been under contract. She's like a a ten
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: ninety nine employee of sorts, right, I mean, she does
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have a direct job with or for the city.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: She's not a city employee. She's a subcontract the city,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: like an NGO that we're paying to do work in
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: the community. Correct, So her current role is is what
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: she's getting five on what's the terms of her contrac?
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: How many years and how much money is she gonn
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: to make it?
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: Well, the current contract is a is a three year
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: contract that was signed off in two thousand and twenty four,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: and that was an amendment to a twenty and twenty
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: three contract. But the current contract is for three years,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: and that includes a salary for miss Rolli that is
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: over three hundred thousand dollars. And then the contract also
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: includes money for a initiative on Government Square. They call
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: it the Government Square Initiative, And that's another I believe
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: it's two hundred and twenty five thousand. The math on
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: it that I calculated was the value of the contract
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: was five hundred and seventy thousand dollars.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Right, Is there a job description in there, like you
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: normally here's what you're expected to do? And also is
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: she paid an hourly rate? Is how does she charge
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: the city? Because we're going to talk about some of
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: the bills that she submitted to the City Cincinnati invoices. Right,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: So what within the contract explains how these invoice processes work,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: how much she's supposed to get, what her day to
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: day responsibilities are. I mean, are we getting an eight
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: hour workday in return for all of this money? That
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. The basic conditions, Yeah, well, a lot
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: of that I can't answer.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: But the scope of services in the contract, there were
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: three basic scope of services. One was to kind of
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: refresh the what's called the management Advisory Group, which was
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: established under the Collaborative Agreement and which Iris Rolli was
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: a member of that management group and I believe she
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: either is still a member or is responsible for kind
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: of managing that group under this contract. The second one
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: was to engage the community.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: One way or the other.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, it's not very specific, but there's community engagement that
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  Speaker 4: that she's required to to to engage.
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  Speaker 1: And you and I could go all day long on
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  Speaker 1: what in the hell that means? Right, community engagement.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's spelled it is spelled out a little more
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  Speaker 4: in the contract itself, but when you look at the
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  Speaker 4: invoices it gets much broader.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're we're going to get to that. Folks, just wait,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: wait for that bomb. That's the bomb that's going to
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  Speaker 1: drop in.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's a there's an aspect of the collaborative
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  Speaker 4: Agreement called problem The big thing about the Collaborative Agreement
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  Speaker 4: is this problem solving, community problem solving. And they use
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  Speaker 4: a technique called SARAH, which stands for scanning assessment or
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: scanning Analysis, Response and Assessment. So and she will she'll
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  Speaker 4: train groups on how that works. You know, what can
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  Speaker 4: be accomplished with that.
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  Speaker 1: Method.
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  Speaker 4: And those are the three big ticket items in the
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: in the contract.
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  Speaker 1: As to the latter, since the Collaborative Agreement dealt with
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: policing in the city, this scanning and reviewing or whatever
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  Speaker 1: this protocol is that it relates to individual police interactions
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: with the community, arrests and issuance of citations and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. Or does it go outside of police activity.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it definitely goes outside of police activity. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: to identify problems in the neighborhood or in the community, like.
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  Speaker 1: The breakdown of the nuclear family for example. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it goes to that point, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry there and you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, how do we how do we deal with this problem,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: and so the police are involved the community. It's supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be kind of a collaborative.
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  Speaker 1: Effort, okay, but at its core, does it relate to crime,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: like getting ahead of things that cause or create problems
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  Speaker 1: that result in criminal activity? I guess I'm I think
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: a collaborative agreement. What started it? The riots, the accusations
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: of racism, the accusations of pulling over people, over driving
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: while black. I mean, we know all the genesis behind it,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: but it had to do with law enforcement. It sounds
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  Speaker 1: to me like she's been hired in a role that's
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: much broader than her initial involvement.
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  Speaker 4: If you look at her invoices. The answer to that, yes,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: it's much much broader than what it looks like in
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: the contract.
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  Speaker 5: But here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Can we tell from the invoice is exactly what she's
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  Speaker 1: doing out in the world on a day to day basis?
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  Speaker 1: I would say, no, okay, let's talk just pull You
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  Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of them. You looked into this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and she submits a monthly invoice. Correct, correct, and to
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: best of your knowledge, it's all been paid correct. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So what what are we talking about here? And I
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: mentioned to you. When I was an attorney billing hours,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: you had a certain obligation to put enough information in
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: your billing form to justify the hourly charge you were
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: going to do. Like I reviewed documents, you know X
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: through Y, you know tax years nineteen eighty to nineteen
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: eighty five, You had to put a sufficient explanation of
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: what you did to justify the bill you're set into
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: the client. Does her invoice show any of that kind
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  Speaker 1: of detailed information.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the contract requires a detailed timekeeping and an activity log,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: So the invoices don't reflect any timekeeping. The invoices identify
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: maybe seven or eight different areas or things that she
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: devoted time to. There's no details to it, and there's
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: no time associated with any of those activities. And in
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, for example, there are five invoices, five
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 4: monthly invoices that say the exact same thing. And so
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 4: without those kind of activity logs, you don't know whether
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: those five things are duplicates, or whether there's different activities
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: under each of those categories. There's just nothing there to
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: really determine what she worked on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you indicated also your research determined that five of
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: the seven invoices also had identical misspellings, meaning the only
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: thing that's different between them is maybe the date that
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: it was sent out. Yes, that's the only difference.
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  Speaker 4: And you know the real problem is that there's no
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: information underneath each item, each of those seven items on
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: these invoices to say how this month is different than
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: last month. Because if you can't differentiate between the activities
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: on each of the invoices, it looks like you're paying
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: for the same thing five times.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's the appearance. That's what I came away with
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: after I was looking at your analysis on this right,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: and see I had to be.
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  Speaker 4: I waited to disclose all these invoices because I was
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: hopeful that the city would come through with some additional
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 4: documentation and some additional information to give us a better
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: picture of it. But it's been over a month since
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: I had since I had received the initial a batch
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: of documents, and I don't know how long I'm supposed
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: to wait before I report out on this stuff.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: So I just reported out right, which means if they
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: have additional documents that fill in the missing information back
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, they can say, oh, oh, Toddszin's or
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: you jump to conclusions. Here's all the details supporting the
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: monthly bill, which contains literally no information we can use. Yeah, well,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: you don't expect that day to come.
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  Speaker 4: I unfortunately I don't, but I would be happy to
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 4: take that information and revise what you know my conclusions here.
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  Speaker 1: I know you will. We have much many more shenanigans
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: to reveal here with Todd Sen's or Citizen watch Dog
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: in the fifty five CAC Morning Show. He'll be in
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: studio for the full hour. Please do not go away.
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• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: fifty five cars de Talk station. Citizen Watchdogs the name
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: of the podcast. Todd Zenzer, host of that podcast and
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: the one that's doing all the work to gather the
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: information that he talks about with the Citizen Watchdog podcasts
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: and our podcasts and also talking about here in the
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: fifty five kr SE morning showan studio today. Now, Todd,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: going back to this IRISROI contract paid a handsome amount
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: of money to be a some sort of outside contractor fine.
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  Speaker 1: The contract requires detailed timekeeping that's in quotes from the contract, yes,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: as well as in quotes activity logs. So when you
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: submit an invoice. Under this contract, you must have detailed
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: timekeeping where you were, how much time you spent, what
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: you did, as well as the activity logs. You say
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: there are no activity logs. No, there's not, clearly from
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: what you told me, like for example, quote police chief
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: search close. Quote does not sound like detailed timekeeping either, No,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: no hours specified for example, correct, just detailed timekeeping. What
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: was the invoice? I mean, what are these invoices rung
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: like four or five, six or six thousand dollars?
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  Speaker 4: Or the monthly payment that she received initially was eight thousand,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: three hundred and something, and then this contract what the invoices?
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: Monthly invoices are eighty seven fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Now I don't believe and I've never heard it
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: said that Iris Rowley has the City of Cincinnati's checkbook
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: so she can write herself checks. Someone has to approve
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: and authorize these payments. She submits the invoice. See, I'm
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: going real slow, and I'm mansplaining. I see, I'm recognizing it.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: Who signed off on these? Considering it does not meet
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: on its face the contractual requirements.
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  Speaker 4: Right well, under the contract, she reports directly to the
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: city manager or an assistant city manager and most of
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: the invoices that I didn't see any invoices that share
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: a long initial off on. It's usually a assistant manager
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: the best I can tell. But there's only initials. Somebody
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: will initial it or say good to pay or something
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 1: But if the buck stops at the head of the
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: head of the class's desk, like the buck stops here,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: that will be Cheryl Long. This is under her watch.
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  Speaker 1: She bears ultimately responsibility for these invoices being paid.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, she signed the contract?
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  Speaker 1: Well does it one really kind of puzzle over? I
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: know you're puzzling over it. I'm puzzling over it. Have
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: you asked that question of the mayor or anybody else
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: in the administration?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I did send them a letter back at the
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: beginning of October, like I don't know, ten days ago,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: twelve days ago, and I lined out all of my
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: issues with the contracts and I all suggested things that
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: they need to do to fix them. And I haven't
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: heard anything back. But that's not unusual either.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, my recollection, and I know it's right because
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: you just showed me the quote from have to have
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  Speaker 1: Pervoll when he was running for mayor back in twenty
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: twenty one, didn't he promise and pledge to ferret out
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: corruption and to be transparent? I mean you can feel
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: free to read his own words. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: The WKRC interviewed all the candidates running for mayor back
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one. I guess it was just a
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 4: mayor of pervall In, mister David Mann. But they asked him,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: four city council members have been indicted on felony charges,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: including three for corruption charges. What will you do to
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: restore trust in local government? So part of his response
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: he says, I think we've got to be laser focused
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 4: on finding the corruption before it starts, and that means
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: more transparency. And then he ended saying, I think we've
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: got to raise the level of our ethical standards, make
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: them more transparent, so we can weed this corruption out
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: before it begins.
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  Speaker 1: How's that working out for you? Well? I think I
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: mentioned that.
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  Speaker 4: A big issue is I did send him a letter
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: earlier in the summer to help get disclosure on what
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: Norfolk Southern spent that six million dollars.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: Oh todd sensor, Yeah, you're doing great with a teas
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: because wow, do you have a moombstittle drop about the
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: Norfolk Southern money. If this is folks, it just keeps
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: getting better and better. The hits keep coming. We'll do
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: more with Todd Zinser on Norfolk Southern Shenanigans. Oh yeah,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: I think provol has got a problem on his hands.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: I just wish it was more widely reported beyond Citizen Watchdog.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. It's eight twenty five.
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  Speaker 12: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio City Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas with former US Inspector General citizen watchdog for
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: the residents in the city of Cincinnati, trying to ensure
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: that your taxpayer dollars are being well spent, but revealing
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: day in and day out with what he does. Apparently
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: they're not Todd zenzer Up. I know we're gonna get
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: the Norfolk Southern craziness here in a second. But since
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: we were talking about Irish Rolly that contract, one of
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: the components of it, as you laid out, I believe
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: it was the roughly two hundred or so thousand dollars
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: of this north of five hundred thousand dollars contract relates
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: to some program or something at Government Square. Now Government
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: Square has been making in the news a lot lately,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: and it's become a hotbed of crime in downtown Cincinnati.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: That's where the kids hang out, that's where the fights
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: break out, a lot of terrible things, and of course
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: people who are going back and forth from the various businesses.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden commented on this. His law firm is real
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: close by. They're afraid. Yeah, what did she do or
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: what it looks like things have gotten worse over the
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: past several years. If this is part of her responsibility,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, what does she have to show for and
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: what's being done right?
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: Well, back in twenty twenty four, I think they that
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: was the first time they initiated this Government Square initiative,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: which involves in the specific case of Iris Rolly's contract,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: they have four I think they call them community counselors
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 4: or community collaborative counselors or something like that. They have
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: those those individuals positioned at Government Square for certain hours
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: when the kids will be a changing buses or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It is they do down there in lieu of a
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: police presidence.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, And they they have snacks and drinks that they
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: give to the kids. I guess they have some type
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: of interaction with the kids, to talk to them and
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 4: get to know them and things like that. And it's
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: another one of these alternative approaches to policing that if
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: they interact with these kids in a certain way rather
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: than in a law enforcement way, they're going to reduce
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: they're going to reduce attentions. And the issue is really
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: whether this whole collaborative agreement really is working, because it
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 4: sure doesn't seem like it.
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  Speaker 1: No that, I mean, that's my point, right. There's a
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: specified component in the contract that it talks about the
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: problems we're having a government square. Again, I don't think
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: anybody can say anything, but it has gotten worse. So
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: do this people have a special hat or something that
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: they're issued easily identifiable government square, you know, civil service.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: I do think they have T shirts or something like that. Yeah, okay,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: But the real problem is the way they contracted that
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 4: the original contract with IRIS was for consulting, and when
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: they amended the twenty twenty three contract to include the
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: government square initial that should have been a separate competitive contract.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: Absolutely the sole.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: Source justification to begin with is deficient. But it's especially
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 4: deficient to say that only IRIS Roley LLC can carry
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: out the work at Government Square. I liken it to
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 4: the authorization for the use of military files.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, we can use this for anything, we want
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: to use anything. Yeah, don't give her any ideas. We
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: gave the drone strikes lawn drone strikes launch. And then
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: there's the other nefarious component in here. And I'm not
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: suggesting that all nepotism hires are always bad in all times,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: but they do draw an eye of scrutiny, like, wait
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: a second, how did their son or daughter or best
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: friend end up in that particular role. Do they have
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: the requisite skill sets to bring about whatever it is
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: they've been charged with doing. Enter Iris Roly's son. I
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: believe he's a convicted felon. Correct, Yes, Does that qualify
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: him to work on Government Square project?
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't line out the qualifications, but they should
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 4: be considered subcontractors. They're not employees of Iris Roley LLC.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 4: They're subcontractors, and under the procurement rules, the contractor is
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 4: supposed to get permission from the city manager for any subcontractors.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't get any of those documents either, so I
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 4: really don't know who knows what about who Iris Roley
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 4: is hiring. Her son is not the only one that's
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: had trouble with law enforcement. There's another individual who and
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 4: this individual's brother also is one of the four. He
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 4: was prosecuted for tax issues about ten years ago or
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 4: fourteen years ago, and that involved tens of thousands of
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 4: dollars that were withheld from this person's employees that he
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 4: didn't remit to the IRS.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: And then I takes their tax dollars out and he
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't hand him over to the IRS.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 4: I think that is a very common problem with some employers.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: But the other issue is he apparently still owes hundreds
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 4: of thousands of dollars to the IRS. Probably a lot
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 4: of that is penalties and interest, but a couple of
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 4: years ago it was like eight hundred thousand dollars well.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: And getting money directly from the City of Cincinnati. It
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: sounds to me like she submits the invoices as lacking
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: in detail as they are, gets paid the eight thousand
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: dollars or whatever, and then pays her son and the
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: other people that are on this government square board. The
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: money is flowing from Iris roly LLC.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, one of the invoices that was provided by the
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 4: city includes copies of four canceled checks paid to these
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: four individuals, and that that was the extent of the
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 4: paperwork provided in connection with those four people.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: Well, that's you know, that's a lot to process, and
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: the idea that this could go on and this could happen,
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: And then going back to the idea that the invoices
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: were specifically signed off on while they lacked all this information,
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: there's multiple layers of violations and built into this from
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: what I hear.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and what I can't figure out is it it
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 4: is common for bureaucracies to do catch me if you can,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 4: where they go ahead and they bend the rules or
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: even break the rules, and if you catch them, they say, oh,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 4: we're sorry, we won't do it again.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: But in this case, I don't know if it's really
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: you know, catch me if you can. I think it's
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: just you know, set up intentionally loose so this kind
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: of thing can happen. Well, yeah, that's what I would
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: look for. That's why we've got Todd Zenzer. That's why
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: we need to keep him around. And if you vote
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, maybe we'll get him as city manager. I'm
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: praying for that day, don't I'm not hanging you out
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  Speaker 1: to dry there, Todd, I think you would help us
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  Speaker 1: out immeasurably. Eight thirty five. We are going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about the get ready, folks. I think it's getting worse
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  Speaker 1: as the conversation draws longer in terms of how bad
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  Speaker 1: things are in terms of improprieties. A thirty five Right now,
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  Speaker 1: if you have ker Cite talk.
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  Speaker 12: Station fifty five krc DCD talk station A thirty nine
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  Speaker 12: if you have ker Cite talk station, Happy Friday. Brian Thomas, Swist,
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  Speaker 12: Citizen Watchdog, Todd Zenzer and Studio just.
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  Speaker 13: Man.
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  Speaker 1: And the more I talk to Todd and the more
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  Speaker 1: he reveals, the worse I feel about the city of
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati in the current administration. And since we do have
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  Speaker 1: an election coming up beginning in November, early voting going
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  Speaker 1: on right now, we have a choice on mayor. And
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  Speaker 1: I know Corey Moowment's fighting an uphill battle as a
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  Speaker 1: Republican in a very blue city. But so many of
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  Speaker 1: the residents of the city seem to be so upset
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  Speaker 1: about so many things, and we're just adding multiple layers
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  Speaker 1: onto that. You got to be a weed dweller to
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  Speaker 1: talk about engage in the level of detail that todd
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  Speaker 1: Sendser is working with. But as we're talking about DC,
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  Speaker 1: this is actually going on behind the scenes. They have
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  Speaker 1: processes in place for contracting and the like, they're not
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  Speaker 1: following them. They have contractual obligations built into that contract.
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  Speaker 1: For example, with Iris Roley, they're not being followed. That's
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  Speaker 1: a huge red flag. And I'm just wondering as we
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  Speaker 1: move over to Norfolk Southern Todd anything by way of
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  Speaker 1: civil or criminal statutory violations that are suggested by what
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  Speaker 1: you're revealing on this.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think I think that there are opportunities to
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  Speaker 4: file lawsuits under Ohio Code for their you know, their
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  Speaker 4: breaching their fiduciary duties basically.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so this might have legs along some light because
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  Speaker 1: then we have some really you know, activist lawyers out
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  Speaker 1: there who are usually more than happy to see the
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  Speaker 1: city for a variety of reasons.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the question, the reason I was hesitant in writing
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  Speaker 4: about this is because there should be additional documentation and
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  Speaker 4: it's not forthcoming. So maybe the only way to get
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  Speaker 4: that is through some kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Lawsuit discovery requests for suingtal litigation toizends are pivoting over
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  Speaker 1: to Norfolk Southern. Now, there was this swirling issue about
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  Speaker 1: the money that was involved the marketing campaign, wasn't it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we were deciding whether or not we're going to sell
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  Speaker 1: the railroad. Christopher smithm was a big no. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of members accounts were big. As we ultimately sold it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, everything's great. One point six billion dollars
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  Speaker 1: an interest baring account. But lots of people were wondering
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  Speaker 1: who in the hell funded the six million dollar ad
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  Speaker 1: campaign for this one issue. You got the bottom of
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  Speaker 1: that too, didn't you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The sole contributor to the to Build Cincinnati's Future, the
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  Speaker 4: Political Action Committee, The sole contributor was Norfolk Southern, and
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  Speaker 4: they contributed six million dollars. And the reason they were
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  Speaker 4: able to do that is because under Ohio law on
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  Speaker 4: ballot issues and those campaigns, there is no limit on
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  Speaker 4: corporate contributions.
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  Speaker 1: So and there is no thing such as a conflict
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  Speaker 1: of interest. Norfolk Southern is titled to do an ad
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  Speaker 1: campaign that operates in its best interest.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and early on it certainly looked like both the
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  Speaker 4: city and the Railway Board was just going to step
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  Speaker 4: back and let Norfolk Southern handle the campaign. That's basically
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  Speaker 4: what happened, except that Norfolk Southern engaged the mayor to
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  Speaker 4: appear in a set of TV commercials on the sale
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  Speaker 4: of a public asset that is going to benefit Norfolk Southern,
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  Speaker 4: and it was just kind of outrageous.
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  Speaker 1: And when PG.
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  Speaker 4: Sittenfeld got pardoned and there was a big hoopla over that,
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  Speaker 4: I wrote an op ed and I said, well, that's fine,
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  Speaker 4: but what has the city done about all the anti
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  Speaker 4: corruption efforts that were made under the previous city council,
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  Speaker 4: under the previous mayor.
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  Speaker 1: Have they followed through on it? And the answer was no.
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  Speaker 4: So in June I sent a letter to the City
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  Speaker 4: Council and to the mayor, and I asked the City
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  Speaker 4: Council to take all the anti corruption recommendations that had
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  Speaker 4: been made prior to them coming on board, line them out,
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  Speaker 4: and tell us what the status is. So that was
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  Speaker 4: the request to the council. To the mayor, I asked
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  Speaker 4: him for help in going to Norfolk Southern's pack and
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  Speaker 4: getting greater disclosure on how the pack spent six million
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  Speaker 4: dollars on that campaign, because I do not think it
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  Speaker 4: cost six million dollars five point four million, ninety percent
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  Speaker 4: of that Here we go folks went to a consulting
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  Speaker 4: firm in Washington, d C. Called sk D Knickerbocker, and
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  Speaker 4: they are a big time consultant in DC. They happened
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  Speaker 4: to be on the Democrat side or Republican consultants just
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  Speaker 4: like that. Sure for example, they were big from what
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  Speaker 4: I understand, we're big on Hillary Clinton's campaign. And they
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  Speaker 4: were given five point four million dollars by the pack
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  Speaker 4: and the description of what that money was used for
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  Speaker 4: was basically described in a handful of words, advised consulting, printing,
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  Speaker 4: and apparently under the rules because I did consult with
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  Speaker 4: an attorney under the rules, that's that's complying with the
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  Speaker 4: campaign financial rules.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's less disclosure than IRIS were rely supposed to require.
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  Speaker 1: When she's submitting her invoices under her contract, it's not
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  Speaker 1: much different. So ad bys printing and quote unquote consulting whatever.
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  Speaker 1: That is five point four million dollars, yes, on a
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  Speaker 1: single issue campaign. Now you're in Hamilton County.
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  Speaker 4: Now there's two big coincidences. Number one is that f
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  Speaker 4: TAB Purvol's campaign treasurer was also the treasurer for Norfolk
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  Speaker 4: Southern's Political Action Committee. And I actually filed a complaint
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  Speaker 4: with the Elections Commission about disclosures there and how can
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  Speaker 4: you have one person being a treasurer for both parties.
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  Speaker 4: There's something called coordinated communications between campaigns, and the Election
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  Speaker 4: Commission couldn't handle that issue, so they denied my complaint.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to have any coordination if you're
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  Speaker 1: the same guy exactly, like you're writing yourself a letter exactly,
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  Speaker 1: so damn well what you're planning on doing.
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  Speaker 4: So what happened is the treasurer did produce an affidavit
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  Speaker 4: where he claimed he had nothing to do with who
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  Speaker 4: appeared in those TV commercials. It was the PAS steering committee.
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  Speaker 4: But we don't know who's on the steering committee. We
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  Speaker 4: don't know whether those folks are all campaign contributors to
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  Speaker 4: mayor Provol or whether they're just one person from Norfolk Southern.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have to disclose that. So I asked the
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  Speaker 4: mayor for help and identifying those people too.
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  Speaker 1: And what did mister transparency say in response to that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he has not responded. That was June one, so
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  Speaker 4: that was several months ago.
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  Speaker 1: Several months ago. That'd be have to have Provol's way of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, basically doing what my dad would do say
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  Speaker 1: I've got two words for you and any happy birth.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, no to your response for the information.
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  Speaker 1: So just by ignoring it you get the same effect.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and that's basically how they treat a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people that come to them with issues.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we know how they treat everybody. Look at the
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: residents of Hyde Park, bond Hill. Yeah. One more with
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  Speaker 1: todds ends or Citizen Watchdog in his podcasts and definitely
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  Speaker 1: listen to it regularly. Eight forty six Right now fifty
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  Speaker 1: five ker City Talk Station fifty five KRC and talk
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  Speaker 1: station all apologies. Eight forty nine if you have car
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  Speaker 1: City Talk station. One more segment here with Citizen Watchdog
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  Speaker 1: todds enz or tob We were having a conversation off
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  Speaker 1: I we I think you and I can agree, and
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  Speaker 1: probably people who have been paying attention to where the
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  Speaker 1: city dollars are going can agree. We're funding a lot
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  Speaker 1: of non governmental organizations, Yes, and we've been down this
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  Speaker 1: road before. The mayor and the city manager have a
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  Speaker 1: huge amount of discretion to pick and choose which NGOs
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  Speaker 1: get taxpayer dollars. Is that a fair statement? Yes? Among
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  Speaker 1: these NGOs is an NGO called Centrifuse, Right, they have
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  Speaker 1: a board of directors. What is Centrifuge being paid by
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  Speaker 1: the city to allegedly do.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's a good question, Brian, it's really
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  Speaker 4: it's it would definitely be spelled out in like an
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  Speaker 4: application for funding, but I haven't tracked that down. But
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  Speaker 4: what centrifuse does is they help businesses start up. They
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  Speaker 4: help start up businesses.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So if you young person, entrepreneur, you go to
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  Speaker 1: Centrifuse I need some help starting a new business. They
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: provide you with some resources or send you over to
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  Speaker 1: some folks that can help you out, maybe hook you
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  Speaker 1: up with a financial lending company, that kind of thing. Right, Okay, Fine,
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  Speaker 1: we can agree that the purpose may be noble. Whether
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  Speaker 1: or not there should be an NGO out there with
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  Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars doing it is another thing. They're getting. How
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  Speaker 1: much money from the city.
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  Speaker 4: They've been getting two hundred and fifty thousand year for
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  Speaker 4: the past four or five six years. Well, it's well
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  Speaker 4: over a million dollars over that period.
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  Speaker 1: Of time, okay. And those board members have a fiduciary
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  Speaker 1: obligation to serve the interest that they are being paid
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  Speaker 1: to do. That's right. Who sits on that board among
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  Speaker 1: the members of the board. Who is on the board
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  Speaker 1: at Centerviews Well.
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  Speaker 4: I found out earlier this year that the mayor have
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  Speaker 4: to have provol sits on the board and has sat
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  Speaker 4: on the board for his entire term. And what was
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  Speaker 4: surprising is that last year, at the beginning of the year,
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  Speaker 4: the city Council actually went through this issue of council
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  Speaker 4: members sitting on the boards of directors of nonprofits, and
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  Speaker 4: the city mayor, supported by the city solicitor, wrote a
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  Speaker 4: memo that said that is not a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: It's possible to do that, but.
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  Speaker 4: There are so many things that you would have to
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  Speaker 4: accommodate to comply with the ethics rules that it was
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  Speaker 4: not recommended that the members of city council sit on
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  Speaker 4: the boards of directors of nonprofits. And all the while
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 4: the mayor is sitting there overseeing this deliberation. He got
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  Speaker 4: a copy of the city manager's memo like everybody else,
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  Speaker 4: And as far as I know, there's been no disclosure
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  Speaker 4: by the city by the mayor that he sits on
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  Speaker 4: this board.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're not he's not paid in this position. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: he's not. But as mayor, a separate set of ethical
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  Speaker 1: and fiduciary obligations exist to the taxpayers. That's correct. How
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  Speaker 1: can he be in a position of deciding that his
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  Speaker 1: own ngo or on which he sits on the board anyway,
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  Speaker 1: gets money, right. Isn't that just an outrageous conflict of interest?
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  Speaker 4: It does seem like that, Brian. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 4: think Centrifuse has done anything wrong, and.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to suggest that, but I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Incumbent on the city to make sure that there's no
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  Speaker 4: conflicts of interest going on. In fact, back in May,
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  Speaker 4: I think I went down to City Hall because of
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  Speaker 4: all the money they spend on these NGOs and nonprofits,
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  Speaker 4: and I said, the least you could do is everybody
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  Speaker 4: that submits, you know, input on how these NGOs should
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  Speaker 4: be funded, everyone should sign a certification that they do
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  Speaker 4: not have a conflict of interest, right.
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  Speaker 1: Because here's how it might play out aftebs. I don't
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  Speaker 1: get any money from them, Yeah, I got some money
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  Speaker 1: going into this Centrifuse. Yes, I'm on the board of
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  Speaker 1: directors parent. You had mentioned off Ara that the head
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  Speaker 1: of Centrifuse makes three hundre grand a year. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: about that. Okay, Now, what if he's looking for some
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: campaign money, he ends up sending money over to Centrifews
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  Speaker 1: Centreviews agrees to pay. Maybe you have tab has no
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: connection with the amount of money that that guy pays.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe that guy's friends with the ATAB pro ball and
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: maybe in return for getting a three hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: years paycheck from centrifuse being doing NGO work, he decides that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I am going to peel off a
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  Speaker 1: few thousand dollars of my fat salary and give it
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: a mayor to be real. So there is a money
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: trail that could be easily created by virtue of the
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: allocation of money to an NGO, upon which after that
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: pur ball sits right. And this is just one e.
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  Speaker 4: This is just one example of all of this spending
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 4: that they do with these nonprofits. It's a very high
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 4: risk area in terms of fraud, waste, and abuse because
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 4: there's no internal controls. There's no oversight of what these
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 4: folks are doing with their money. Some high level reports
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 4: back about what we did, but nobody's really looking at
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 4: these and even the internal auditor for the city has
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 4: identified problems with these nonprofits well, and.
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  Speaker 1: Going back to this roly contract that involves government square
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  Speaker 1: specific work, I think we can all figure out perhaps
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  Speaker 1: that they haven't been able to accomplish anything. So the
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: return on our taxpayer investment for that one subset isn't
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: paying off.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's paying off well, neither do I.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's a subjective conclud illusion. We can't be
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: held accountable for that. But crime and government square. Government
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: square as a concept has been in the news time
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: and time and time and time again. I have to
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: have Pearl Ball's been talking about it. The police resource
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: has been allocated to government Square. That sounds like a
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: bigger problem that they're trying to address than it was
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: maybe several years ago. So I'm gonna call it a failure.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: Whatever they thought they were going to accomplish. Todd zinzer Man,
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: we unloaded a hell of a lot today. I can't
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: thank you enough for the work that you're doing. Maybe maybe,
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: maybe other local news will take the time to report
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: on all of this because it seems very newsworthy, and maybe,
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: just maybe this will end up in court my hope. Anyway, Todd,
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  Speaker 1: thank you again. Okay, thank you Brian, You're always welcome here,
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 1: my friend. Always, we'll keep listening to your podcast, Citizen
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: Watchdog folks, you even get a chance