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- 0:00Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
- 0:02Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to
- 0:09Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome to
- 0:12Speaker 1: the NFL Draft Why from Gillette Stadium. Welcome to the
- 0:18Speaker 1: Patriots Draft Party presented by Bud Light. I am joined
- 0:22Speaker 1: by the Patriots Unfiltered crew, Eric Scallavino, Paul Parrello, Tomara Brown,
- 0:27Speaker 1: Mike do So, and on our main stage handling the
- 0:30Speaker 1: really important people we have Nick Fitzie Stevens. Like he said,
- 0:34Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea I know, but like he said,
- 0:38Speaker 1: I think that's what make this draft in particular exciting.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Forget about the Patriots for a second, let's just talk overall.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I don't care what mock draft you're looking at. They're
- 0:47Speaker 1: all different. They're all different. They have been since the
- 0:50Speaker 1: beginning too. Yeah, it's been a new name. I think
- 0:52Speaker 1: it was what Evan Neil was the first one I saw,
- 0:53Speaker 1: like a few months ago, came on Thibodeau. Yeah, it's
- 0:56Speaker 1: it's changed. It's rotated. Every time you see a new
- 0:58Speaker 1: mock draft, it's a new name down. I mean the
- 1:00Speaker 1: quarterbacks this year only a couple that might sneak into
- 1:03Speaker 1: the first round. I think those are you know, that's
- 1:05Speaker 1: a big key factor. Does team needs to go up
- 1:07Speaker 1: get a quarterback? We know what that was like last
- 1:09Speaker 1: year for the Patriots. They got mac Jones at fifteen,
- 1:11Speaker 1: so that could really affect the board when you get
- 1:13Speaker 1: down to twenty one with the Patriots up. Well, you've
- 1:15Speaker 1: been covering the draft since leather helmets. When's the last
- 1:19Speaker 1: time you remember a draft with so little quarterback action
- 1:23Speaker 1: in the first round. Yeah, I forget the year, but
- 1:25Speaker 1: the EJ Manual year, I believe the Bills took him
- 1:29Speaker 1: at like eighteen and that was the only quarterback in
- 1:31Speaker 1: the first round. But it is rare to have not
- 1:34Speaker 1: just no quarterbacks taken in the first round. But most
- 1:37Speaker 1: people don't really feel like there's any deserving of it.
- 1:39Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes it's need and sometimes it's it's based
- 1:42Speaker 1: on the board. But this year, but they will be taken. Yeah,
- 1:45Speaker 1: well that need them, and I don't think they're gonna
- 1:48Speaker 1: take it. Well. I just don't think there's a couple
- 1:49Speaker 1: of names out there that aren't draft picks. But Baker
- 1:52Speaker 1: Mayfield and Jimmy Garoppolo floating around, and that could change things,
- 1:57Speaker 1: maybe even in the first round. I mean, and multiple
- 1:59Speaker 1: teams with multi picks in the first round that have
- 2:01Speaker 1: the capitol to go and get those guys if they
- 2:04Speaker 1: want them. So I mean, things could get crazy. It
- 2:06Speaker 1: could get turned upside down right away with a team
- 2:08Speaker 1: going out and grabling. And you also have to remember
- 2:11Speaker 1: that Deebo Samuel is also still available, so someone could
- 2:14Speaker 1: trade two of those picks, not just for a quarterback,
- 2:17Speaker 1: but for a wider receipt. That would be a monster
- 2:19Speaker 1: development in the first round. Here we are, let's go
- 2:22Speaker 1: all right, we're here for we want you know, if
- 2:24Speaker 1: we need some excitement, we need some movement coming around.
- 2:27Speaker 1: And you know, last year we had the five quarterbacks
- 2:30Speaker 1: taking in the first fifteen picks. That was the juice
- 2:32Speaker 1: right last year. This year, maybe it's trades. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:35Speaker 1: I have a feeling this could be one of the
- 2:36Speaker 1: longer first rounds we've seen in a while, because I think,
- 2:38Speaker 1: like Paul said, there are gonna be so many teams
- 2:40Speaker 1: that are interested in trading down that they're gonna take
- 2:43Speaker 1: most of their ten minutes to try to make calls
- 2:45Speaker 1: and try to see if anybody wants to trade. Whether
- 2:48Speaker 1: those trades are consummated remans to be seen, but I
- 2:49Speaker 1: think a lot of teams are gonna take their full window,
- 2:52Speaker 1: which means we could be here for a little while.
- 2:53Speaker 1: And because so many teams are reportedly looking to trade down,
- 2:57Speaker 1: the value could be in trading up. Maybe maybe. And
- 3:01Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of you know, pundits
- 3:03Speaker 1: say that the best part of this draft is really
- 3:05Speaker 1: into Day two in those areas, so I think there'll
- 3:07Speaker 1: be teams trying to trade down maybe as well. But
- 3:09Speaker 1: if you love a player and you want to go
- 3:11Speaker 1: get him, you could possibly have the opportunity teams looking
- 3:14Speaker 1: to move down. All right, So let's go around quickly.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to be the first
- 3:18Speaker 1: guy off the board. I think I'm gonna I'll jump
- 3:20Speaker 1: in Aidan Hudson. I think it's gonna be I think
- 3:22Speaker 1: it's gonna Aidan Hutchinson. Um, it's just the easiest pick
- 3:24Speaker 1: for the Jags. I think they need a guy who
- 3:26Speaker 1: can just come in. They know what he can do.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker has been making a push, but I think
- 3:30Speaker 1: he's a little bit more of a projection. So I
- 3:32Speaker 1: think that's the easy pick for them, And but I mean,
- 3:34Speaker 1: how could you really argue if they went with one
- 3:36Speaker 1: of the offensive linemen as well to protect Trevor Lawrence.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson's got the momentum right now, I think you do.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I do see I thought he lost a lot. I think, yeah.
- 3:46Speaker 1: But it just speaks to the unpredictability of this particular
- 3:49Speaker 1: round because I can't remember anytime leather helmet or no
- 3:54Speaker 1: Freddie that that people didn't know the first pick, yeah right,
- 3:57Speaker 1: you know, even the year that Mario Williams overtook Red
- 4:00Speaker 1: Bush that happened a couple of weeks before the draft,
- 4:02Speaker 1: or at least a week or so before the draft.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Everybody's saying, this is what's gonna happen right now. I mean,
- 4:08Speaker 1: I think as recently as three days ago it was
- 4:09Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson. Now all of a sudden, I'm with Tamara.
- 4:12Speaker 1: I think everybody's going on Walker. It's just kind of
- 4:15Speaker 1: unfortunate because at the start of this process, Trayvon Walker
- 4:17Speaker 1: was you know, maybe a day two guy even and
- 4:19Speaker 1: and now he's going all the way up top. So
- 4:21Speaker 1: it's some uncertainty, all right. I hear we have some
- 4:24Speaker 1: special guests ready to go on our main stage. So
- 4:27Speaker 1: let's throw it back to Fitzie. Gonna be an exciting draft.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Vegas is lit. We're about twelve minutes away from the
- 4:33Speaker 1: first pick. But right now, ladies and gentlemen, Pats, fans,
- 4:36Speaker 1: Pat's nation, everyone here. We're gonna welcome James's wife back
- 4:39Speaker 1: to the stage. And also joining him is defensive back
- 4:42Speaker 1: Miles Brant. What's up, Miles? How you Doing's leisure to
- 4:54Speaker 1: meet you? All? Right? James, where we are we there?
- 4:55Speaker 1: Where are the I know right? Coaches comes along, right,
- 4:58Speaker 1: he's more important. Well, he does have a draft to
- 5:02Speaker 1: attend to tonight as well. I understand it's a big draft.
- 5:05Speaker 1: This is a big draft. You got How excited do
- 5:07Speaker 1: you guys get now? Not just on your own draft
- 5:10Speaker 1: night as well, like you were sharing before Coach spoke James,
- 5:13Speaker 1: but just on draft night knowing like there's gonna be
- 5:15Speaker 1: new players coming in. Miles. You went undrafted, of course
- 5:18Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. You're now part of the
- 5:20Speaker 1: two legacy. Guys. You're part of the great legacy of
- 5:22Speaker 1: third down backs in the Coach Belichick era. You're now
- 5:25Speaker 1: part of the great legacy of undrafted free agent corners
- 5:28Speaker 1: and defensive backs who have made their way to the
- 5:30Speaker 1: team and made a significant impact in the NFL. But
- 5:32Speaker 1: how excited do you get to potentially meet new teammates
- 5:36Speaker 1: rooting for guys from Wisconsin or maybe hey, Trent McDuffie
- 5:39Speaker 1: could come from you're all mamater Washington, that would be
- 5:41Speaker 1: pretty hype as well. I think for me, it's just exciting,
- 5:45Speaker 1: you know, meeting guys. I think something that this game
- 5:47Speaker 1: has provided me is good relationships, so like a good
- 5:51Speaker 1: relationship with James here, David and Dietrich and just being
- 5:54Speaker 1: able to meet guys from all over the country who
- 5:57Speaker 1: share the same love for the game. So I think
- 6:00Speaker 1: for me that's a big part of it. So what
- 6:02Speaker 1: was your Draft night experience? Like James was telling us,
- 6:04Speaker 1: having a party, getting excited. I thought the Patriots were
- 6:07Speaker 1: into him. Did you have a chance to meet with
- 6:09Speaker 1: the Pats beforehand? Because during mock draft season we all
- 6:12Speaker 1: hear about top thirty interviews, the Pats flew out to
- 6:15Speaker 1: meet this guy, and of course those guys never get picked.
- 6:17Speaker 1: What was we know that the second we hear the
- 6:19Speaker 1: Patriots are interested, no way, So what was your process like?
- 6:25Speaker 1: For me? It was pretty unique? So I came out
- 6:27Speaker 1: during the COVID year twenty twenty, and I think I
- 6:31Speaker 1: met with like twenty nine teams at the combine, and
- 6:33Speaker 1: the Patriots they were not one of them, and classic
- 6:38Speaker 1: Belichick classsic. Yeah. And then day three, I think the
- 6:42Speaker 1: start of the Day three, that's when I started to
- 6:44Speaker 1: talk to them. It was actually the first time I
- 6:46Speaker 1: talked to them. So our corners coach, Mike Pellegrino, he
- 6:50Speaker 1: ended up calling me the morning of the Day three draft,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and it caught me by surprise because I had never
- 6:57Speaker 1: had any kind of communication or anything with the pay streets.
- 7:00Speaker 1: And then as the draft went, picks started going, and
- 7:03Speaker 1: even then we thought I might end up in the
- 7:05Speaker 1: six or seventh round with a couple of other teams,
- 7:08Speaker 1: but then those teams ended up training those picks away,
- 7:11Speaker 1: and then at the end we felt New England was
- 7:14Speaker 1: the best fit for me, so they so you met
- 7:17Speaker 1: with him, he had a chance to talk to him.
- 7:18Speaker 1: At least you were familiar with them before the undrafted
- 7:20Speaker 1: free agent process began, which, of course, the New England
- 7:23Speaker 1: Patriots have had a lot of success with J. C.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Jackson now playing for the Los Angeles Chargers, and of
- 7:28Speaker 1: course Malcolm Butler, who's back? Speaking of which, have you
- 7:31Speaker 1: guys had a chance to reconnect with super Bowl forty
- 7:33Speaker 1: nine here old Malcolm Butler since he returned. Yeah, it
- 7:36Speaker 1: was good to have him back. We're actually in the
- 7:38Speaker 1: same same class, so we experienced a lot of hard
- 7:41Speaker 1: work and dedication, a lot of tough football games together.
- 7:44Speaker 1: So it's definitely good to have him back in there.
- 7:46Speaker 1: And he adds and beefs up our secondary for sure.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I was so fired up to see him come back,
- 7:51Speaker 1: Like Malcolm Butler, that's someone that we love and the
- 7:53Speaker 1: whole narrative of like he'll never come back, come back.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Actually he resigned with the team and he's gonna help
- 7:57Speaker 1: us win another Super Bowl. My right guy in the
- 7:59Speaker 1: front row, darn right, I am you bet? You bet
- 8:02Speaker 1: your Swede lombardis I'm right about that. Last question I
- 8:05Speaker 1: want to ask versatility, how important is it whether you're
- 8:09Speaker 1: drafted become a multiple Super Bowl champion undrafted, working your
- 8:12Speaker 1: way through the ranks, you play a number of positions. Miles,
- 8:15Speaker 1: maybe you can really speak to that as some guys
- 8:17Speaker 1: will try to fight their way from fourth round pick,
- 8:20Speaker 1: six round pick, undrafted to becoming a starter with the Patriots.
- 8:23Speaker 1: How important is positional versatility with the Pats. I think
- 8:27Speaker 1: it's very important. I remember coming out of college, one
- 8:31Speaker 1: of my college coaches told me, the more you can do,
- 8:34Speaker 1: the better off you are. So I think I tried
- 8:37Speaker 1: once I got here. I try to learn from guys
- 8:39Speaker 1: like Devin mccordy, J C. Jackson, Stefan Gilmore, John Jones.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Those are all guys who played different positions. But I
- 8:47Speaker 1: try to learn from each one of those guys and
- 8:49Speaker 1: try to pick pick their brain and try to pick
- 8:52Speaker 1: up something from their game that I could add to mind.
- 8:54Speaker 1: And then when my number was called, if a certain
- 8:56Speaker 1: position went down, then I was able to step in
- 8:58Speaker 1: with a proper preparation because I decided to seek out
- 9:02Speaker 1: information from those guys. So I think versatility is like
- 9:04Speaker 1: one of the biggest things really in the I mean
- 9:08Speaker 1: in all athletics. If you look at it, if a
- 9:10Speaker 1: guy can play basketball, he could guard one through five
- 9:13Speaker 1: likes a, he's a pretty valuable asset to that team.
- 9:16Speaker 1: The fans love to see it, the coaches love to
- 9:18Speaker 1: hear it. Can't wait to see you make another play,
- 9:20Speaker 1: like when you knock down that ball in Buffalo last year.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you throw a ball into
- 9:24Speaker 1: the stands in the Super Bowl end zone once again,
- 9:27Speaker 1: ladies and Gellman Hill. Let's give it up for defensive
- 9:29Speaker 1: back Miles Bryant and sweet feet James White on stage
- 9:32Speaker 1: at the drop party, and now we're gonna and now
- 9:38Speaker 1: we're gonna throw it back to Patriots unfiltered. Fred, We're
- 9:41Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes away. Guys, who's going number one?
- 9:44Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? I can feel the excitement all the
- 9:46Speaker 1: way from Vegas. Baby, Fitz, he before we give you
- 9:49Speaker 1: all those answers, I really thought you were gonna use
- 9:51Speaker 1: your charm to pry out the answer from coach Belichick
- 9:54Speaker 1: on who he's gonna pick. Drop the ball, Fitz, Yeah, really,
- 9:58Speaker 1: and you dropped the mic too, apparently, I don't even
- 10:01Speaker 1: think he asked. All right, all right, so let's talk
- 10:04Speaker 1: about Patriots right now. We talked about the uncertainty of
- 10:07Speaker 1: the draft, but there's uncertainty around the Patriots right too.
- 10:10Speaker 1: They're picking at twenty one. A lot of people think
- 10:13Speaker 1: they're gonna trade down. But because a lot of other
- 10:16Speaker 1: teams reportedly might trade down, there may not be a
- 10:18Speaker 1: dance party for that. So what do you guys think
- 10:21Speaker 1: the Patriots are looking at if they have to pick
- 10:24Speaker 1: at twenty one. I think there's a bunch of players
- 10:26Speaker 1: that we've seen in various mock drafts that we can
- 10:28Speaker 1: kind of project to be there. And the most maybe
- 10:30Speaker 1: the most popular one, Devin Lloyd from Utah linebacker and
- 10:33Speaker 1: the Kobe Dean linebacker from Georgia. Two linebackers a lot
- 10:37Speaker 1: to like about their game in the Kobe Deane a
- 10:39Speaker 1: little understized. Is he a right fit? Zion Johnson offensive
- 10:43Speaker 1: line in Boston College, very versatile. He's another one Trent McDuffie,
- 10:46Speaker 1: which fits. He mentioned of course to Miles Brian and
- 10:49Speaker 1: you can list everybody. There's a lot to marriage. Yes,
- 10:53Speaker 1: you gotta leave some people for me. So I was
- 10:56Speaker 1: talking to these guys earlier. I've never been gambling before,
- 11:00Speaker 1: but I've got my chips, I've got my stacks here ready,
- 11:03Speaker 1: and I'm going to go all in on two guys. Oh,
- 11:07Speaker 1: two guys, this is my table. So I'm making the rules.
- 11:14Speaker 1: I'm making the rules. So my two guys are going
- 11:17Speaker 1: to be cornerback Andrew Booth Clemson. Okay, And do I
- 11:21Speaker 1: think you're guys. Sorry, Eric, Sorry, And my second one,
- 11:24Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jermaine Johnson from Florida State, ed
- 11:27Speaker 1: dresser ed Russia. Okay, both of those are great guys, obviously,
- 11:29Speaker 1: both in the ACC. I love my ACC guys, but
- 11:32Speaker 1: I think that when you look at the Patriots needs,
- 11:33Speaker 1: those are two guys that I think could still be
- 11:35Speaker 1: available at twenty one. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's hard
- 11:38Speaker 1: to predict exactly what's going to be available. I like
- 11:41Speaker 1: the linebackers. I like Devin Lloyd, and I like Nakobe Dean.
- 11:44Speaker 1: So either either one of those two guys I'd be
- 11:46Speaker 1: thrilled with. I know everybody likes to talk about the
- 11:49Speaker 1: wide receivers, and I'm not gonna lie. I would love
- 11:53Speaker 1: to see a weapon come here and help out Mac
- 11:56Speaker 1: Jones if for some reason, Deuce block your ears. If
- 12:00Speaker 1: Jamison Williams starts the slip a little bit, yeah, I
- 12:03Speaker 1: want to. I want to move up. I want to
- 12:05Speaker 1: trade up and get him. It's it's funny with well
- 12:08Speaker 1: with him that I see him anywhere from top five
- 12:11Speaker 1: in some mocks to the second round because of the
- 12:14Speaker 1: injury on other mocks. It's he's all over the place. Yeah,
- 12:17Speaker 1: but I will I will hear I'm gonna go all
- 12:20Speaker 1: in Jamison Williams will not be available tomorrow now, Okay,
- 12:25Speaker 1: Chips too. Yeah, I just think, I mean, if it's
- 12:27Speaker 1: my estimation, cornerback is the biggest need for this team.
- 12:30Speaker 1: But I will take any talented defender that's on the
- 12:33Speaker 1: board at twenty one because they need a lot of
- 12:35Speaker 1: help on defense. We saw the way last season end.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Did you have a particular position on defense you'd like.
- 12:39Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I think corner is the one, okay,
- 12:42Speaker 1: and I if Andrew Booth, like tomorrow mention is there, great,
- 12:45Speaker 1: I'll take him. But if Devin Lloyd's there, okay. You know,
- 12:48Speaker 1: if if there's a run on cornerbacks earlier in round
- 12:51Speaker 1: one and you have to go either defensive end or
- 12:54Speaker 1: linebacker speedy smaller linebacker like like Lloyd or or yeah,
- 13:00Speaker 1: it's another one question, yeah for all of you because
- 13:02Speaker 1: as we sit here in way players, what's more important
- 13:04Speaker 1: to you is it their production, like their stats or
- 13:06Speaker 1: their physical traits? Because with the argument between Hutchinson and Walker,
- 13:09Speaker 1: for example, Hutchinson has all the stats, but then Walker
- 13:13Speaker 1: has the NFL prototype like style of body two one's
- 13:17Speaker 1: more important. Look at their tape. Can they play well?
- 13:19Speaker 1: If your first round pick, you better have all of it.
- 13:21Speaker 1: I mean, that's what your stats and do you want
- 13:23Speaker 1: it all? Yeah, I mean that's what makes it tough.
- 13:25Speaker 1: A guy like Travon Walker, he's a little bit of
- 13:27Speaker 1: a projection. That's a great defense. And that's another question
- 13:30Speaker 1: of how many guys from Georgia are going to be
- 13:33Speaker 1: picked in the next two days A lot from that round.
- 13:36Speaker 1: It's gonna be like seven or eight guys crazy And
- 13:38Speaker 1: it's a great point, Mike, you know, So there's there's
- 13:41Speaker 1: certainly if you're going to get a guy in the
- 13:42Speaker 1: first round, you want them to come in. You want
- 13:44Speaker 1: them to contribute. And you know, one more position I
- 13:46Speaker 1: think to throw in the mixes tackle the couple guys
- 13:49Speaker 1: Trevor Penning, Bernard Raymond who could fall, could potentially intreat
- 13:53Speaker 1: down long term need on one of the edges. Yeah,
- 13:55Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of value and day two
- 13:58Speaker 1: of this draft, second and third round, and there's a
- 14:01Speaker 1: guy that just there's there's two guys that have jumped
- 14:04Speaker 1: out at me. One's a wide receiver on one's a cornerback.
- 14:07Speaker 1: The cornerback is Tarik Woolen. This guy, I'm I don't
- 14:11Speaker 1: want to get it wrong. He's six four, runs a
- 14:13Speaker 1: four two six. He's got a vertical jump of forty two.
- 14:16Speaker 1: This guy's an athlete. He's a cornerbat. I mean, if
- 14:19Speaker 1: they can get him right and if he takes coaching,
- 14:22Speaker 1: this is a guy that they might be able to
- 14:24Speaker 1: get in the fourth round. That I mean, he would
- 14:27Speaker 1: be amazing. He's not a kind of guy like small boxes,
- 14:31Speaker 1: you know, like that slot, but on the outside where
- 14:34Speaker 1: they've had trouble down the field. This this guy could
- 14:37Speaker 1: be the answer, you know. And then then the other guy.
- 14:40Speaker 1: I know Paul doesn't like him, but he could another
- 14:43Speaker 1: be a fourth round. Or it's Alec Pierce out at Cincinnati.
- 14:46Speaker 1: He's another athlete. No, listen, listen. He's six three right,
- 14:50Speaker 1: runs a forty and a half inch vertical and runs
- 14:54Speaker 1: a four to three. All right, let's let's just set there.
- 15:01Speaker 1: Let Fred it's Fred's answer my question. He prefers an
- 15:06Speaker 1: athlete specific you need athletes. Yeah, First, I don't think.
- 15:11Speaker 1: I don't think Gallick Pierce is an exceptional athlete for
- 15:13Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I don't. I've watched him play that
- 15:16Speaker 1: doesn't match that kind of those measurables, don't. They don't
- 15:19Speaker 1: match up on the field. The other guy, I'm not
- 15:20Speaker 1: going to pretend, I mean, you know, willing from I
- 15:23Speaker 1: think it's Texas San Antonio Freddy Yep, I'm not going
- 15:25Speaker 1: to pretend. Yeah, I'm not going to pretend. I watched
- 15:27Speaker 1: this guy play. I you know, just like Freddie, I
- 15:31Speaker 1: was intrigued by the profile there. And he has a
- 15:34Speaker 1: lot of stats, a lot of measurables that you can't teach.
- 15:37Speaker 1: He's a developmental guy. He hasn't been a quarterback for
- 15:40Speaker 1: a long time. He made a transition from receiver. If
- 15:43Speaker 1: you're you're willing to wait, I don't think he'll give
- 15:45Speaker 1: you a whole lot in year one, but if you're
- 15:47Speaker 1: willing to wait for him to develop six four with
- 15:49Speaker 1: a what is the sub four three? Yeah, I mean
- 15:52Speaker 1: it's pretty fast. It's not that many guys. I mean
- 15:54Speaker 1: I can think of when I see those numbers, Mike Hanes,
- 15:57Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, Okay, Paul, So when you look at
- 16:00Speaker 1: the Patriots offense, who do you think fits that mold?
- 16:03Speaker 1: Considering that wide receiver just coming in so many shapes
- 16:06Speaker 1: and sizes. Yeah, I like some of the wide receivers.
- 16:08Speaker 1: I like deuces guy. Garrett Wilson, I think is one
- 16:11Speaker 1: of the best route runners in the draft. I think
- 16:13Speaker 1: I don't be a jet. Yeah, I don't think he'll
- 16:15Speaker 1: be available. I like a lave A too. I don't.
- 16:17Speaker 1: I don't love him, but I do like him. I
- 16:20Speaker 1: think both of those guys have shown at Ohio State
- 16:23Speaker 1: they know how to you know, I'll use all the
- 16:25Speaker 1: buzzwitch the passing game concepts. They can they can they
- 16:29Speaker 1: can run the routes properly and they get open and
- 16:32Speaker 1: catch the ball. That's what Bill always talks to. Yeah,
- 16:34Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about this. A lot of people
- 16:36Speaker 1: want that first round wide receiver, but I think there's
- 16:37Speaker 1: a lot of really talented guys in Day two. Um,
- 16:40Speaker 1: you know, they might require a little bit of a projection.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Christian Watson's a guy that comes up a lot in
- 16:45Speaker 1: Day two. Might speaking tonight. John macchie, of course played
- 16:49Speaker 1: at Alabama, played with mac Jones. That's an easy fit
- 16:52Speaker 1: coming off an ACL injury. He should be available later.
- 16:55Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of talent at wide receiver,
- 16:58Speaker 1: as there has been the last couple of season that
- 17:00Speaker 1: could come in and help the team. What do you
- 17:02Speaker 1: think is the deepest room in this draft? Is it
- 17:05Speaker 1: wide receiver or cornerback. I think it's cornerback. I don't
- 17:09Speaker 1: think either one of those positions a very team. I
- 17:11Speaker 1: don't think this one. I don't think. I don't think
- 17:17Speaker 1: wide receiver in corner. I definitely don't think corner. Corner
- 17:20Speaker 1: falls off quicker than my receiver. But well, okay, I'm
- 17:23Speaker 1: just talking about in the first couple days. Yeah, you know,
- 17:26Speaker 1: I would say Olliver wide receiver. There are a collection
- 17:30Speaker 1: of players that could go. I would say ten twelve
- 17:33Speaker 1: guys that if they took them, you'd be excited that
- 17:36Speaker 1: they could come in and bring something. There's probably higher
- 17:38Speaker 1: end talent at corner, but more bodies available. I think
- 17:43Speaker 1: there's a huge drop off after the second guy. I
- 17:45Speaker 1: think Sauce and Stingly are outstanding. The rest are on
- 17:48Speaker 1: my gardener, You're not that Sauce. Sauce Okay, the Sauce Okay, yeah,
- 17:55Speaker 1: I mean Stingly we really didn't talk about. But this
- 17:58Speaker 1: guy might be the total packing. Listen, Freddie, I'm gonna
- 18:01Speaker 1: need you to keep up. We're in front of a
- 18:03Speaker 1: live audience. Okay, I can't patch you around like I
- 18:05Speaker 1: usually be that. No, I really think he could be
- 18:08Speaker 1: a true shutdown corner. Yeah. And you know the guys
- 18:10Speaker 1: that we talked about, like McDuffie and booth Um, they're good,
- 18:14Speaker 1: good their question but their question marks. I don't think
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- 19:59Speaker 1: never contend layers are maybe not exactly what order they'll
- 20:02Speaker 1: go in, but you generally know these top five guys
- 20:04Speaker 1: are gonna be gone. We don't have that this year.
- 20:07Speaker 1: I mean there are you could have maybe ten to
- 20:09Speaker 1: fifteen guys who could fall in those top five spots.
- 20:11Speaker 1: And where's the run gonna start? You know, someone kind
- 20:13Speaker 1: of grads bide receiver and all of a sudden, another
- 20:15Speaker 1: wide receiver were top talking about some of the deeper
- 20:18Speaker 1: positions in the draft, and I sort of disagreed about
- 20:21Speaker 1: the wide Receivers recording. I think Edge is one of
- 20:24Speaker 1: those spots. And Tamara brought up Jermaine Johnson and my
- 20:27Speaker 1: initial reactions there's no way he'll be available at twenty one.
- 20:30Speaker 1: He's too good. Yep. But this dress and this mock
- 20:33Speaker 1: draft and these all these different mocks that you see,
- 20:36Speaker 1: he's all over the place. So who's I mean, I
- 20:38Speaker 1: don't think he will, but who's to say? You want?
- 20:40Speaker 1: I would love it? I would love it. I mean
- 20:41Speaker 1: I said it on the show this week. I think
- 20:42Speaker 1: Edge is a huge need that's really under the radar
- 20:44Speaker 1: that people don't really talk about. You look at the
- 20:46Speaker 1: people that they lost that played on the Edge, and
- 20:48Speaker 1: there aren't any clear starters across from Judon right now,
- 20:52Speaker 1: young guys who haven't been proven. So if Jermaine Johnson
- 20:54Speaker 1: were to fall, I think that would be a slam dune.
- 20:56Speaker 1: So earlier we heard Bill Belichick on this stage age
- 21:00Speaker 1: and you know he's not going to give us any info,
- 21:03Speaker 1: but one thing he said, and why say it if
- 21:05Speaker 1: you don't really believe it, is he thinks there's gonna
- 21:07Speaker 1: be a lot of movement in the first round. Yeah,
- 21:09Speaker 1: he said that. I mean with the picks, you know
- 21:11Speaker 1: that the team's having two picks. I just there. There's
- 21:14Speaker 1: a lot of teams with a lot of capital, um,
- 21:16Speaker 1: you know, and even like a team like Kansas City,
- 21:18Speaker 1: what do they have twelve picks? Um? You know, there's
- 21:20Speaker 1: a lot of teams that have a lot to be
- 21:22Speaker 1: able to go up and get guys. It's just a
- 21:23Speaker 1: question of who do you really want that much to
- 21:26Speaker 1: go up and and and cash in those chips? And
- 21:29Speaker 1: how bad does a team want a quarterback? How good
- 21:31Speaker 1: do they feel about Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis are those?
- 21:34Speaker 1: Are there gonna be teams out there that say, this
- 21:36Speaker 1: is our guy, We're going all in on. Well, but
- 21:37Speaker 1: maybe to the point about Jermaine Johnson we talked about before,
- 21:41Speaker 1: if somehow he gets to a point where a team
- 21:43Speaker 1: who really wanted him and didn't think he would be
- 21:45Speaker 1: available at a certain spots finally says, oh, look he's there,
- 21:49Speaker 1: let's pick up the phone, let's make that trade, let's
- 21:51Speaker 1: move up, let's be aggressive and get the guy. I
- 21:54Speaker 1: can see that happen. I know it's it's you know,
- 21:56Speaker 1: not as strong a draft class as you know, you
- 22:00Speaker 1: know in the last few years, but you know, teams
- 22:02Speaker 1: fall in love with guys in the second and third round.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they now this year in the first round
- 22:07Speaker 1: and doesn't have to be a quarterback. You know, if
- 22:09Speaker 1: there's a guy, you know, if you're sitting at twenty
- 22:12Speaker 1: one and there's a guy at sixteen that you love,
- 22:15Speaker 1: you absolutely love. If I was the Patriots, I do
- 22:18Speaker 1: it for Trey vonn Walker. I mean, that's he's my
- 22:20Speaker 1: favorite guy in this draft. I think he'd be an
- 22:22Speaker 1: ideal fit in this defense with all the different things
- 22:25Speaker 1: he could do, how much they could move him around.
- 22:27Speaker 1: That would be my guy if he would. But you know,
- 22:29Speaker 1: early in the draft process you start doing it, you
- 22:30Speaker 1: get all right, he wow, this guy really second round? Well,
- 22:34Speaker 1: I'm you know, and then all of a sudden, here
- 22:35Speaker 1: we are and people are talking about him maybe going
- 22:37Speaker 1: in the next five minutes here right. I would do
- 22:39Speaker 1: it for Derek Stingley as long as we're gonna take
- 22:40Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna be taken in the first five
- 22:42Speaker 1: pure I would do it for I wasn't gonna say anything.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Let you if we're gonna play for ten, let's go.
- 22:50Speaker 1: But but you know, it doesn't like again with the
- 22:54Speaker 1: uncertainty of this draft. You know, we're focusing on what
- 22:57Speaker 1: the mock drafts have been saying, or who the top
- 23:00Speaker 1: five guys are. But a guy like Bill belichicker name
- 23:03Speaker 1: any head coach, there could be somebody like, I don't know,
- 23:06Speaker 1: Johan Dotson that you know that people just you know,
- 23:10Speaker 1: a certain coach just loves and that happens every year. Right,
- 23:13Speaker 1: There's there's two or three guys that get taken in
- 23:15Speaker 1: the first round that really nobody had in their mock drafts. Right,
- 23:18Speaker 1: Usually usually the Raiders were the ones that would pick that.
- 23:20Speaker 1: But I have a new regime would take Wollen in
- 23:24Speaker 1: the first round because they're like four two guys before that.
- 23:27Speaker 1: That's the Raiders guy through and through your point about
- 23:29Speaker 1: Belichick when he said that before about how he thinks
- 23:31Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of movement. Don't forget these
- 23:33Speaker 1: guys are on the phone before the draft starts to
- 23:35Speaker 1: talking to one another around the league. So they probably
- 23:37Speaker 1: have a sense they're making calls and they're getting called. Right,
- 23:40Speaker 1: so like maybe setting stuff up for Hey, Okay, when
- 23:42Speaker 1: Draft Knight comes, we'll call you back again and maybe
- 23:45Speaker 1: you know, consummate this deal that we're talking about now,
- 23:48Speaker 1: or at least putting feelers out there for picks or
- 23:51Speaker 1: players and picks, this guy's there, we want, we might
- 23:53Speaker 1: want them. Well you think. I think the more, the
- 23:57Speaker 1: more moves, the more fun tonight. Yeah, it's just gonna
- 23:59Speaker 1: throw everything upside down, and I feel like we're gonna
- 24:01Speaker 1: get pick fifteen sixteen, and then it's gonna be now
- 24:04Speaker 1: we'll start to get a sense of who might be
- 24:05Speaker 1: there for the past. So my question is when I
- 24:07Speaker 1: was interning for the Giants, and I'm probably got a
- 24:10Speaker 1: lot of booze right now for the people listening here,
- 24:12Speaker 1: But Settleman would say, like I'm gonna pick the best
- 24:16Speaker 1: guy that's available, even if it's something we don't need,
- 24:19Speaker 1: like when he picked Squon. Do you agree that that
- 24:22Speaker 1: could happen tonight where if it's like a team may
- 24:24Speaker 1: need these three holes, but then there's a really great
- 24:27Speaker 1: player like Sauce available, would you just take Sauces? Yeah,
- 24:30Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Patriots. I mean, I think
- 24:32Speaker 1: a good example with that with the Patriots would be
- 24:34Speaker 1: that Dax Hill, who's, you know, kind of a safety
- 24:36Speaker 1: type and you know, maybe not the biggest need for
- 24:38Speaker 1: the Patriots. I know you could maybe project him as
- 24:40Speaker 1: a corner, but it's it's those kind of guys. I'm
- 24:43Speaker 1: gonna have another slot corners available. I mean for the Patriots,
- 24:46Speaker 1: I feel like they have a lot of specific or
- 24:47Speaker 1: you're a guy Kyle Hamilton's I would love, but like,
- 24:54Speaker 1: if by some miracle he's available, you got to take him. Right,
- 24:57Speaker 1: So at twenty one got Read and Garl Thomas back.
- 25:02Speaker 1: You know the Patriots are you know that's one position
- 25:05Speaker 1: where they have guys. Yeah, yeah, but still like do
- 25:09Speaker 1: you do you take the best available, right do you?
- 25:11Speaker 1: I don't think that's what they do normally. I think
- 25:13Speaker 1: they go for what they need. If it's if the
- 25:15Speaker 1: need isn't there, they move out. There's a line where
- 25:17Speaker 1: it's just silly. It's like you got seven safeties, Like
- 25:20Speaker 1: I know he's great, but like you have to build
- 25:22Speaker 1: a full football team here and it's like, hey, we
- 25:24Speaker 1: got seven awesome seeds. They're not all going to get
- 25:26Speaker 1: on the field. If they took Daxton Hill, I agree
- 25:28Speaker 1: with you, Mike. It would be because they think he
- 25:29Speaker 1: can be a corner, like a piece that they can
- 25:32Speaker 1: move around. And yeah, he he straddles out a player.
- 25:35Speaker 1: I like him a lot, but I think if they
- 25:37Speaker 1: took him, it would be an indication if they think
- 25:39Speaker 1: he can do more than just jes see. Are we
- 25:42Speaker 1: all kind of resigned that if they do pick in
- 25:44Speaker 1: twenty at twenty one, it won't be a wide receiver,
- 25:47Speaker 1: not entirely but mostly Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't
- 25:50Speaker 1: think it will. I feel like similar to Romandre Stevens,
- 25:53Speaker 1: and I think they can find a jam later on. Yeah,
- 25:55Speaker 1: they can coach him up to be good. Thank you
- 25:57Speaker 1: for that segue. So who's your second round or third
- 26:00Speaker 1: round wide receiver that realistically they might they might be
- 26:05Speaker 1: able to get. Well, Metchi Watson, Kyle. I love Kyle
- 26:08Speaker 1: Phillips too. I think he's maybe a little bit later,
- 26:10Speaker 1: but he's just a guy that is. I mean, they
- 26:12Speaker 1: watched him, and I'm like, that's West Weller, that's little
- 26:13Speaker 1: West Welker. I mean, it's like a bigger version of
- 26:15Speaker 1: Wes Welker. Um. But but I think metchi Is is
- 26:17Speaker 1: a kind of person that there's obvious reasons why everyone
- 26:21Speaker 1: likes him, and and it almost seems too obvious. Its
- 26:24Speaker 1: a guy. Watson's a guy who's a small school great
- 26:27Speaker 1: you know, locker room kid, hard worker, has the size,
- 26:31Speaker 1: has the speed. It's just a little bit of a
- 26:32Speaker 1: projection with him because he's coming from a small school.
- 26:35Speaker 1: I see Commissioner Goodell on the stage, but he's not
- 26:39Speaker 1: quite ready to announce the I think he just started
- 26:41Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, the Jaguars, pick, I got the Raider,
- 26:44Speaker 1: the Raiders out there in Vegas. Yeah, you know, I mean,
- 26:47Speaker 1: is there really like the ability to be on time
- 26:51Speaker 1: when you're in Vegas? I mean you never sleep right,
- 26:56Speaker 1: like if a pump oxygen in the casino they do,
- 26:59Speaker 1: and if you if you go into the casino, there
- 27:01Speaker 1: are no windows, right, there are no clocks. Yeah, and
- 27:04Speaker 1: they and the drinks never stopped. Yeah, keep coming around.
- 27:07Speaker 1: You need something something. But we're talking about all that movement,
- 27:10Speaker 1: you know, with with oh what do you got over there? Dude,
- 27:12Speaker 1: you got some we got some cash? It's fake cash, unfortunately. Yeah.
- 27:16Speaker 1: But you know with Bill talking about, you know, expecting movement,
- 27:19Speaker 1: and you know every year they do this, They they
- 27:23Speaker 1: have their own mock drafty. They try with their intel
- 27:27Speaker 1: to best predict what the teams ahead of them are
- 27:29Speaker 1: going to do. And I wonder if this year's will
- 27:32Speaker 1: be any worse than normal because they're right, it is
- 27:35Speaker 1: more unpredictable than normal. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely,
- 27:39Speaker 1: because I know they do that. I've talked to people.
- 27:41Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what the results of those
- 27:43Speaker 1: mock drafts are, but I know that they they have
- 27:47Speaker 1: guys devoted to that that they try to have a feel,
- 27:50Speaker 1: you know, like you fred, a feel for a feel
- 27:53Speaker 1: for what other teams are gonna do. Yep. The going
- 27:56Speaker 1: back to your question about the receiver that you like
- 27:58Speaker 1: maybe in the second round, yea. For me, it's the
- 28:00Speaker 1: Georgia kids. I mean, I like him too. He's bigger
- 28:05Speaker 1: then uh, you know, he's a bigger guy, fast, looks
- 28:08Speaker 1: the part, and I think is uh, I think it
- 28:12Speaker 1: is more of a real deal than He's a great
- 28:13Speaker 1: example of scale because it's those kind of guys that
- 28:16Speaker 1: you can get a little bit later due to injury
- 28:18Speaker 1: or whatever, but have all the things that you look
- 28:20Speaker 1: for in a number one guy who could potentially you
- 28:23Speaker 1: take him in day two. I mean, how many receivers
- 28:25Speaker 1: in the league right now, we're day two, day three
- 28:26Speaker 1: guys that are number one exactly plenty of them, right
- 28:29Speaker 1: And I think those kind of guys. Absolutely. Another thing
- 28:32Speaker 1: that Bill mentioned when he was on stage, and I
- 28:34Speaker 1: think Matt grow mentioned it, uh, you know earlier on
- 28:37Speaker 1: Patriots dot com a few days ago about the number
- 28:40Speaker 1: of UM older players that are in this draft and
- 28:43Speaker 1: a number of players who came back because of COVID
- 28:47Speaker 1: increases the number of you know, maybe quality players lower
- 28:51Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean, it's it's it's still we're
- 28:54Speaker 1: still trying to get a grasp on things after COVID
- 28:56Speaker 1: because last year, I mean, they had the Patriots at
- 28:57Speaker 1: one undrafted free agent rookie. Like know, it's it's it's
- 29:00Speaker 1: still kind of wonky. I don't know if the draft
- 29:02Speaker 1: this year we'll get that back in line. But I
- 29:04Speaker 1: think he said there were some six year guys that
- 29:06Speaker 1: they were looking at right well, which is and that's
- 29:10Speaker 1: absolutely true, like the whole COVID impact on the draft,
- 29:13Speaker 1: which makes it strange to me that it's considered such
- 29:16Speaker 1: a down draft. Yeah, you would think it'd be especially
- 29:19Speaker 1: more challenges were there were more draft eligible guys in
- 29:22Speaker 1: this draft than normal guys who actually played five years
- 29:25Speaker 1: of college football. I think I heard Jim Nagy, who
- 29:27Speaker 1: he was in our scouting department for a while here
- 29:30Speaker 1: he rob Sparrow and he runs the Senior Bowl now,
- 29:33Speaker 1: and he talked about on a typical year, they'll look
- 29:35Speaker 1: at three hundred and fifty or so players. He said,
- 29:37Speaker 1: this year they looked at over seven hundred right for
- 29:39Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. But yet the quality doesn't seem to
- 29:43Speaker 1: be there. Why do you think that is? I have
- 29:45Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah, I just thought i'd bring it home.
- 29:47Speaker 1: It's strange. I mean, I mean I would say I
- 29:48Speaker 1: think there's a lot of really good wide receivers. I mean,
- 29:50Speaker 1: I mean that that's one position where I feel like
- 29:52Speaker 1: I'm just thinking a few days in comparison to the
- 29:54Speaker 1: last two or three years, I don't think there was
- 29:57Speaker 1: many of those guys that I said, Wow, like Terry
- 30:00Speaker 1: Clarin he's going to be a really good player and
- 30:01Speaker 1: he's not going to get taken, you know, until the
- 30:03Speaker 1: fifties or whatever. And the quarterbacks too, Like the quarterbacks,
- 30:06Speaker 1: they're just two, you know, two guys really that that
- 30:09Speaker 1: that might sniff the first round. It's it's bizarre, I mean,
- 30:12Speaker 1: which I think could be why you could see someone
- 30:14Speaker 1: go after Baker Jimmy g just because there aren't that
- 30:17Speaker 1: many available. Yeah, So the Giants didn't pick up Daniel
- 30:21Speaker 1: Jones's fifth year option, so maybe they're a team that
- 30:24Speaker 1: is in the market. I would say they are a
- 30:26Speaker 1: team and they do have two first round picks they
- 30:28Speaker 1: could get away for. What are you hearing from your
- 30:30Speaker 1: former contact, the embedded Giants? She's trying to get the picks?
- 30:35Speaker 1: Tmaric Gettleman. All right, um, if if, how much would
- 30:43Speaker 1: you be willing in terms of capital to move up? Like,
- 30:47Speaker 1: you know, are you of the mindset, Are you guys
- 30:50Speaker 1: of the mindset that boy they need to have as
- 30:53Speaker 1: many picks as possible, you know, quantity or you know,
- 30:57Speaker 1: are you willing to give up capital and move up
- 31:00Speaker 1: for a specific player. I'm willing to give up, you know,
- 31:02Speaker 1: like a third round pick or something to move up
- 31:04Speaker 1: three or four spots. Sure, okay, yeah, so Paul for Sauce,
- 31:08Speaker 1: you would move up. Well, yet you're gonna need more
- 31:10Speaker 1: than that. Well, it depends where. I mean. I don't
- 31:12Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna make a like a ten
- 31:14Speaker 1: fifteen spot move up the board. That's going to require
- 31:18Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. I think now you're dipping into
- 31:20Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I mean, yeah, but I think you
- 31:22Speaker 1: can get like three or four spots without breaking the bank. Yeah,
- 31:25Speaker 1: or or what if your package and you take twenty
- 31:28Speaker 1: one and then you come back up. I mean, is
- 31:30Speaker 1: that you know, could that be possibility like they did
- 31:31Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. I think they need a lot. I
- 31:34Speaker 1: think there's a lot of positions that you know, we
- 31:36Speaker 1: can all say they really don't They got one starting
- 31:38Speaker 1: guard right now. I mean they got Shack Mason has gone,
- 31:40Speaker 1: Ted Harris has gone. We talked about at the cornerback.
- 31:43Speaker 1: We know JC Jackson left that already felt like a
- 31:46Speaker 1: thin position. Plenty of talk about linebacker, which I'm not
- 31:48Speaker 1: sure how much of a major need that is, and
- 31:50Speaker 1: wide receivers saying but I think they need a lot,
- 31:52Speaker 1: and they got to bring in some depth and really
- 31:55Speaker 1: start to they need a new foundation. I think that's
- 31:57Speaker 1: a lot of old guys that are moved on, not
- 31:59Speaker 1: a whole Yeah, that's it. You know, we can one
- 32:01Speaker 1: or two great players. I don't know how much that's
- 32:03Speaker 1: gonna make a difference. We keep saying they need to
- 32:05Speaker 1: get younger. Well, the only way you're gonna do that
- 32:07Speaker 1: is through the draft and then let those guys play, right,
- 32:09Speaker 1: you know, you could also stop signing thirty something your
- 32:11Speaker 1: old players, but you need a few. Okay, So the
- 32:15Speaker 1: dilemma though, and you don't have thirty something your old
- 32:17Speaker 1: guys in your rash, you have twenty something for me.
- 32:20Speaker 1: The dilemma is, yes, you need, you need to start
- 32:23Speaker 1: stocking up on younger players, but in a draft that
- 32:25Speaker 1: is why they considered mediocre at best. Do you really
- 32:28Speaker 1: want a lot of mediocre young players or do you
- 32:31Speaker 1: want to try to package those picks and move up
- 32:33Speaker 1: to get the few talented guys who well and obviously
- 32:37Speaker 1: I mean, you know Paul's being funny, but I mean,
- 32:39Speaker 1: but he's not wrong, and that you know, guys like
- 32:42Speaker 1: OOJ and Ronnie Perkins and you know Chase, one of
- 32:44Speaker 1: it is gone. But how much do we you know,
- 32:46Speaker 1: how much do they really get a chance just because
- 32:48Speaker 1: you had, you know, in those and those positions. I
- 32:52Speaker 1: get it, you know, as far as like bringing back
- 32:54Speaker 1: Devin mccordy, it is what it is. You know, you
- 32:56Speaker 1: want to vet you on the back end, that's fine,
- 32:57Speaker 1: but you know, overall, I think the point is is
- 33:00Speaker 1: is correct, these means again young, Let those guys play.
- 33:03Speaker 1: See what Perkins has, See what Ouja has and and
- 33:06Speaker 1: and go from there. But but try to get guys
- 33:08Speaker 1: now they can push those guys and you know, just
- 33:11Speaker 1: and improve the team, bringing new you know, I wrote
- 33:13Speaker 1: about a little bit off, you know, twenty ten they
- 33:15Speaker 1: lost to the Ravens. That was a you know, tough
- 33:17Speaker 1: loss right here at the field. They went out, they
- 33:20Speaker 1: got Gronk, they got mcquardy. Kind of like right as
- 33:22Speaker 1: Gronk came out with that helmet, he put the helmet on,
- 33:24Speaker 1: he starts doing and it was like, wow, this kind
- 33:26Speaker 1: of like makes me feel better about that Ravens. I
- 33:29Speaker 1: feel like we got some new energy coming in. It
- 33:31Speaker 1: feels good, you know, like just here we go. We
- 33:33Speaker 1: got a guy who's excited to be This is how
- 33:37Speaker 1: you guys are, Like, who's this guy with the the back
- 33:38Speaker 1: to dre No, we love we love, none of us
- 33:42Speaker 1: more so than Andy, but we all loved gront But
- 33:45Speaker 1: and besides that kind of superficial admittedly, but again the
- 33:48Speaker 1: twenty twelve where all of a sudden, Chandler, Chandler, chandl
- 33:52Speaker 1: had to do it for the Draft show. I had
- 33:53Speaker 1: to get my Chandler and that but Chandler Jones Dante
- 33:55Speaker 1: High Tower two guys came right in right away, moved
- 33:58Speaker 1: up together, remade the defense. You know, you knew you
- 34:00Speaker 1: needed those kind of guys. They moved up to get
- 34:02Speaker 1: them two impact guys. So that that's something too, that
- 34:06Speaker 1: you get somebody two guys in there that instantly step
- 34:09Speaker 1: in and kind of changed the dynamic of the defense.
- 34:11Speaker 1: I was looking earlier at the draft value chart as
- 34:15Speaker 1: well as the current draft order, because I was trying
- 34:17Speaker 1: to project who they might be interested in trading with
- 34:20Speaker 1: if they could move down to try to require more picks.
- 34:23Speaker 1: And I was looking at Seattle as a contender maybe
- 34:26Speaker 1: because they had there the other conference. They've got a
- 34:29Speaker 1: couple of second round picks back to back. They've got
- 34:31Speaker 1: a third round pick that's pretty high up, and you
- 34:33Speaker 1: can't you combine the second and the third round pick.
- 34:35Speaker 1: They could move into the twenty one spot. If that's
- 34:37Speaker 1: what New England wanted to do and Seattle wanted to
- 34:40Speaker 1: get a second first round pick. I think they have
- 34:42Speaker 1: one up at the top already. That's that's why I'm
- 34:45Speaker 1: looking at as a potential trade partner if that's what
- 34:48Speaker 1: Bill wants to do. The two elder statesmen, Bill, right, Yeah,
- 34:51Speaker 1: exactly right, right at his regular first round draft habits.
- 34:59Speaker 1: He's dropped and clues on Twitter. Who's this? Oh yeah,
- 35:03Speaker 1: it's sorry? All song? Oh yeah? One of them was
- 35:06Speaker 1: like a Maclamore song next year. I'm not familiar with
- 35:09Speaker 1: that song. I'm sorry. Huh uh. And then he just
- 35:11Speaker 1: had another one with beautiful. I think, are we sure
- 35:13Speaker 1: he's not just an old man with his phone? Does
- 35:15Speaker 1: he take take Take the Keys away from Pete? Beautiful
- 35:23Speaker 1: by Snoop Dogg? Who's the last one? He tweeted beautiful bite?
- 35:26Speaker 1: So these are all Seahawks draft clues. See see how
- 35:29Speaker 1: he hashtags it? Yeah? Why doesn't Bill do that on
- 35:33Speaker 1: my face? He's got He's putting clues down on my
- 35:35Speaker 1: face right now. You wouldn't even realize. Well, we got
- 35:37Speaker 1: Logan Mankins here up on the stage talking to the party. Paul,
- 35:41Speaker 1: got to talk to your old friend. He's he's the man,
- 35:43Speaker 1: Logan Mankins. We should remind everybody in the three finals
- 35:47Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame Logan Mankins up with the
- 35:49Speaker 1: millions listening, this is a good time to promote the
- 35:52Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voting on Patriots dot com. Yeah, with
- 35:55Speaker 1: the millions and millions, thanks rock Yeah, I truly think
- 36:01Speaker 1: this might be like the most watched slash listen to
- 36:04Speaker 1: draft just because of the uncertainty. Yeah, let's hope it's
- 36:07Speaker 1: not predictable so you have to watch it to figure
- 36:09Speaker 1: it out, right, or let's just nothing else on TV. Yes,
- 36:13Speaker 1: I'm only kid. The Celtics aren't on it still Sunda
- 36:16Speaker 1: Bruins are on the Bruins. Yeah, but it's still it's
- 36:18Speaker 1: still regular season. Doesn't matter. No, this is it. There's
- 36:21Speaker 1: such a build up to this, and you know, right
- 36:23Speaker 1: when the season ends, jump into it. And by this
- 36:26Speaker 1: point you're just pulling your hair out with what do
- 36:27Speaker 1: you think? Want to just make the PA? They just
- 36:29Speaker 1: make they trade out, you know, and it's like you
- 36:31Speaker 1: just chomping thing at the bake end of the pick.
- 36:33Speaker 1: The pick is in okay for Jacksonville. But minutes final thoughts, Eric,
- 36:40Speaker 1: who is it going to be? Uh? Pick? In the
- 36:44Speaker 1: two Jacksonville Jaguar Walker? Right? I know you? Yeah, there
- 36:55Speaker 1: you go. I'll pick Walker too, Okay, I mean I
- 37:00Speaker 1: get it, I get it. Bills fake bills flying all
- 37:03Speaker 1: over the place. Do that again? Hey Hey, sorry, you
- 37:14Speaker 1: got money. I'm I need those all back, I need
- 37:17Speaker 1: those all back. I got Rent, I got Rent rent
- 37:20Speaker 1: Is next week, next week. Well, good for them. I
- 37:25Speaker 1: still just can't believe that when this process started, and
- 37:28Speaker 1: as somebody who doesn't really pay attention to college football
- 37:30Speaker 1: till the ends, that that a guy could start out
- 37:33Speaker 1: as like a late day one, early day two blew
- 37:37Speaker 1: the combine up deservedly so. But he's an outstanding player.
- 37:40Speaker 1: I'll be very curious how he does down in Jackson. Yeah.
- 37:43Speaker 1: The thing about all these Georgia players, it makes me
- 37:46Speaker 1: wonder a little bit how much these guys are individually
- 37:50Speaker 1: talented or how much it's a great question an election
- 37:52Speaker 1: of talent made them all look good. That's similar to
- 37:55Speaker 1: LSU and all those guys who went to the draft
- 37:58Speaker 1: after they won the national championship, right, like they were
- 38:02Speaker 1: all good, right, Yeah, but you have to wonder if
- 38:05Speaker 1: the hole is greater than the sum of the part
- 38:07Speaker 1: or I mean you can say that about Alabama too,
- 38:08Speaker 1: Like are all those players individually good? Yeah? And a
- 38:12Speaker 1: lot of are, you know, I mean for me, and
- 38:14Speaker 1: I think part of that relates to Jordan Davis and
- 38:17Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean. I think that's like kind of when I
- 38:19Speaker 1: look at that, I'm like, you got a little linebacker
- 38:21Speaker 1: playing in in back of a monstrous defensive tackle. Maybe
- 38:24Speaker 1: that's where some help came. But watching Walker, the plays
- 38:28Speaker 1: that he made, the athleticism, then you add all the
- 38:31Speaker 1: measurables out the length everything. I just is Jacksonville just
- 38:35Speaker 1: gonna stick him at defensive end though, because I think
- 38:37Speaker 1: he could be maximized as a player who could stand up,
- 38:39Speaker 1: move around. And there comes to stage my Pop Warner rival.
- 38:43Speaker 1: I had to coach against Troy Brown's son a couple
- 38:45Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Yeah, we took him down preseason. That
- 38:48Speaker 1: doesn't count. I would love to know who Tory Brown
- 38:52Speaker 1: thinks the best wide receivers. Yeah, it's a great question.
- 38:55Speaker 1: I mean, I would love there's just so many guys
- 38:57Speaker 1: like that Fitz. He's gonna ask him right now. But
- 39:02Speaker 1: there's so many talented guys that are big and fast
- 39:07Speaker 1: and all kinds of combinations. It's it's what's your preference?
- 39:09Speaker 1: What do you like anybody any Portner store? No. I
- 39:15Speaker 1: I mean I have my favorites, and I think you
- 39:17Speaker 1: know Garrett Wilson I was again a guy who was
- 39:20Speaker 1: I think a lot of people out of lava over
- 39:21Speaker 1: him early in the process and you know, I just
- 39:24Speaker 1: kind of jump in and watch. I thought he was
- 39:26Speaker 1: just excellent. He's got good speed, run after catchability. Nothing
- 39:30Speaker 1: against the Lava, who I think is just super smooth.
- 39:32Speaker 1: But you know, you have your types. You like your
- 39:34Speaker 1: physical guys. You know, you like your smooth guys. It's
- 39:36Speaker 1: like your fast guys. Um. But but I think Treylon
- 39:39Speaker 1: Burks another one to talk about, who's you know, No,
- 39:41Speaker 1: people have a little bit of of apprehension about large
- 39:44Speaker 1: receivers who maybe aren't sub four four. Um, but I
- 39:47Speaker 1: think he's another dynamic player who I really liked walking
- 39:50Speaker 1: watching in. Yeah, they didn't waste time, did Yeah? So um,
- 39:57Speaker 1: what do you think that means for Detroit? Maybe they
- 39:59Speaker 1: go with jump well yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so well credit, Hey,
- 40:05Speaker 1: let's keep track of the teams that don't you stuff
- 40:07Speaker 1: a lot of time? Thank you? Right, They're like, huh,
- 40:09Speaker 1: let's just let's just go keep moving. You know, it's
- 40:12Speaker 1: interesting that some people had them potentially picking a quarterback Detroit.
- 40:17Speaker 1: Yeah thirty two. No, seriously another yeah, they have enough.
- 40:21Speaker 1: We took them. H Detroit's pick with the second pick
- 40:29Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two NFL draft, the Detroit Lions select.
- 40:34Speaker 1: It didn't Hutchinson Michigan. Okay, great, he's staying in Michigan.
- 40:41Speaker 1: That's gonna be great. That that that one seemed a
- 40:43Speaker 1: little bit obvious. Yeah, yeah, slamdug. They must have been thrilled. Yeah,
- 40:47Speaker 1: and it didn't really probably a few weeks ago, didn't
- 40:49Speaker 1: seem like that have any chance at all at him.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Oh they're in, they're in their war room. We got
- 40:53Speaker 1: our guy, they got their guy. Yeah, they got another
- 40:56Speaker 1: pick too, Yeah yeah later on for now anyway, movement.
- 41:02Speaker 1: I'm just disappointed that Deuce didn't get his trade up
- 41:04Speaker 1: for Trayvon Walker at seventeen. Houston's on the clock. So Nick,
- 41:11Speaker 1: you got get kind of a probably not a quarterback
- 41:15Speaker 1: because they drafted one last year, so I and I
- 41:18Speaker 1: agree with that it would make no sense. But I
- 41:20Speaker 1: did see something from one of the NFL dot com
- 41:23Speaker 1: guys today saying that there was a lot of juice
- 41:26Speaker 1: and draft kings for Houston. Did you see this Houston
- 41:30Speaker 1: taking a quarterback? And the guy, I think it was
- 41:32Speaker 1: that Lance Zerline. He said that you guysn't see it,
- 41:35Speaker 1: but oh wow, sometimes the guys in Vegas, you know
- 41:38Speaker 1: that the being you know, yeah, what odds will you
- 41:43Speaker 1: give me for them trading down? Here? Houston trading down
- 41:49Speaker 1: from three, I don't think there's a great chance. I
- 41:52Speaker 1: think the other one give me my odds ten to one,
- 41:55Speaker 1: all right, I mean I'm in for five large friend
- 42:00Speaker 1: can pay the real money though, So I don't know
- 42:01Speaker 1: if I can afford that the money. It's all over
- 42:05Speaker 1: the table pole that everybody's money. Okay, So yeah, I
- 42:09Speaker 1: think thirteen. Houston's pick at thirteen is more likely to
- 42:12Speaker 1: be traded. I think I don't think anybody wants to
- 42:14Speaker 1: get up to three. Yeah, I mean I think it's
- 42:17Speaker 1: Stingley or one of the ta you know tackle. Yeah, yeah,
- 42:21Speaker 1: there are a lot of that. It feels like that's
- 42:23Speaker 1: which tackle do you think is best? I'll leave that
- 42:25Speaker 1: to you guys. You do offensive line in your own time.
- 42:27Speaker 1: I can I can only base on sorry logan, you know,
- 42:31Speaker 1: talking to people, actually seeing people at the combine, specifically
- 42:34Speaker 1: seeing Ikey at the at the combine, just seeing him
- 42:37Speaker 1: sit there, I mean, just shoulders for days. I mean,
- 42:40Speaker 1: he just looked like a giant, intimidating tackle. Um. Nothing
- 42:44Speaker 1: against Evan Neil, who also was like a spelt three
- 42:47Speaker 1: forty or whatever. It is. I mean, you can't. You
- 42:49Speaker 1: don't even know where he carries that weight. I think
- 42:51Speaker 1: either of those guys would be great. Um, I bet
- 42:54Speaker 1: you it's one of those three Stingley or those two tackles. Next,
- 42:56Speaker 1: evidently Trayvon Walker was in a serious car right before
- 43:00Speaker 1: the draft, but he wasn't He wasn't hurt, not enough
- 43:03Speaker 1: to push him down to seventeen. I guess no, So
- 43:05Speaker 1: I thought maybe you had some inside intos. We almost
- 43:09Speaker 1: had him, well him by that much. This Vegas Draft,
- 43:14Speaker 1: like the after parties at this thing, they're gonna go,
- 43:17Speaker 1: I mean till Sunday. I don't think anyone's setting sleep tonight,
- 43:21Speaker 1: that's for sure. It's a lot earlier out there too,
- 43:23Speaker 1: That's true. It's pretty early. Houston pick is not in yet.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Come on, so there are they gonna get something to
- 43:30Speaker 1: protect their rookie quarterback? I don't know. I don't know.
- 43:34Speaker 1: I think a tackle makes sense here. It's a matter
- 43:36Speaker 1: of which one you like the best. Yeah, I would
- 43:37Speaker 1: say you have a Neil, But I think most people
- 43:40Speaker 1: think I think it's either the pick is in, Okay, Wow,
- 43:44Speaker 1: pick is in for Houston. Yes, so we'll await the
- 43:47Speaker 1: commissioner when he gets to the stage and talk about
- 43:49Speaker 1: so who do who do we think? What do we think?
- 43:52Speaker 1: I've just lost five hundred by the way, but I'll
- 43:56Speaker 1: go it's not real, yeah, I'll Stingley. Yeah, I think
- 44:02Speaker 1: according to someone on Twitter here, oh but it's pick
- 44:06Speaker 1: tipping time, Okay, Yeah, it's like, yeah, so you can
- 44:13Speaker 1: it's the time. Do you go right back at me?
- 44:15Speaker 1: Although I did mind in response to you, because I
- 44:17Speaker 1: knew Stingley wasn't gonna be around at sixteen. No, it's uh,
- 44:20Speaker 1: I mean I think it. You know, I don't want
- 44:22Speaker 1: to read too much into the Belichick tree and all
- 44:24Speaker 1: that of what they value, but I mean, you know,
- 44:27Speaker 1: up until a couple of years ago, getting a guy
- 44:29Speaker 1: like Stingley seemed very very high on the Patriots priority list,
- 44:33Speaker 1: and like we said, it's pretty big drop off after
- 44:36Speaker 1: him and Sauce, you got a chance to go get
- 44:38Speaker 1: a potential shut down number one corner. Uh. He checks
- 44:42Speaker 1: all the boxes and of course has paid some Patriot
- 44:45Speaker 1: roots here with his with his grandfather. So, uh, four wins,
- 44:53Speaker 1: what's up? They've had four wins in the last few seasons. Houston. Yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah,
- 44:58Speaker 1: been tough. One of them was against which was the
- 45:02Speaker 1: game that DeShawn Watson. I couldn't believe it, but man,
- 45:07Speaker 1: they had no answer, had no answers for him. That
- 45:09Speaker 1: was the original they have no answers game before last
- 45:11Speaker 1: year's end of season one. But now we got Macro
- 45:14Speaker 1: up here. I guess Macros at the party, So he's
- 45:18Speaker 1: taken a break from the war room. Are surprised. I
- 45:21Speaker 1: feel like that they'd be locked in right now, like
- 45:24Speaker 1: once the draft starts to normal. Well, I think that,
- 45:26Speaker 1: you know, his part of the draft is probably done
- 45:30Speaker 1: on the table. Yeah, and so now it's Matt Patricia,
- 45:34Speaker 1: it's you know, of course Bill Belichick probably um um.
- 45:39Speaker 1: I don't know if Elliott Wolf you know, has as
- 45:42Speaker 1: much a role, but I think so. I think, yeah, yeah,
- 45:45Speaker 1: guy was for a couple of title for him a
- 45:49Speaker 1: little bit is that director scouting scout, But he might
- 45:51Speaker 1: you know, Matt, you know, I'm sure he's as soon
- 45:54Speaker 1: as he gets out of here, he's gonna go right
- 45:56Speaker 1: back to the war room. But I think like his
- 45:58Speaker 1: big part comes pre draft. Yeah, I would. I would
- 46:00Speaker 1: imagine if the Patriots were involved in any sort of trades,
- 46:03Speaker 1: right that he'd be down there doing that right now,
- 46:05Speaker 1: because they're just like a rube Ricky hands over and
- 46:06Speaker 1: it's like if a draft a like in the twenty
- 46:11Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft, the Houston texanss like Derek Stingley
- 46:16Speaker 1: junior defensive back l and there it is, and they
- 46:22Speaker 1: were just taking bills away from fritt All. Now, as
- 46:26Speaker 1: I said, um, you know earlier in the show, I
- 46:29Speaker 1: think Stingley has the potential to be a true shutdown
- 46:32Speaker 1: corner in this league. And I picked him as you know,
- 46:36Speaker 1: the guy that the best player out of this draft,
- 46:38Speaker 1: and not without some questions, you know, so everybody, yeah,
- 46:43Speaker 1: but not the not the you know, three four year performance,
- 46:47Speaker 1: I mean a couple of year guy. But um, it's
- 46:49Speaker 1: a it's an obvious pick and and you know that's
- 46:52Speaker 1: that's I think that's where the league is. And that's
- 46:54Speaker 1: why I think you can't rule out any of those
- 46:56Speaker 1: cornerbacks late late in the draft. But with Stingley going
- 46:59Speaker 1: this quick, it might kind of move things up with Sauce.
- 47:02Speaker 1: And then we're up the Jets. The Jets are on
- 47:05Speaker 1: the clock now, so do they try to get some
- 47:08Speaker 1: protection for their young quarterback one of these offensive linemen
- 47:11Speaker 1: that we talked about before. That's the thing that always
- 47:13Speaker 1: bugs me about the draft is just that you get
- 47:15Speaker 1: spend all this time falling in love with all these
- 47:16Speaker 1: guys and then you realize the Jets are going to
- 47:18Speaker 1: get a good example of my question decad guys. The
- 47:24Speaker 1: Jets are good good example of my question earlier. Do
- 47:28Speaker 1: you get sauce or do you get something that you
- 47:32Speaker 1: actually need? Right? Well, they probably need really, I mean
- 47:36Speaker 1: their defense is wretchedly yeah, so is there I mean,
- 47:39Speaker 1: well at everything. They just drafted a first round left
- 47:45Speaker 1: tackle two years ago. Now he's been hurt a lot,
- 47:48Speaker 1: so right now he's not working out. But some protection
- 47:51Speaker 1: for your quarterback. I'd rather have sauce than tackle here.
- 47:54Speaker 1: I think they need. They had the youngest defense in
- 47:58Speaker 1: football last year showed they were I mean yeah, but
- 48:03Speaker 1: all you have to do is remember the Patriots game
- 48:04Speaker 1: when they just were powerless to stop you know, a
- 48:07Speaker 1: pretty average offense. And I would think just by stingly
- 48:11Speaker 1: going to Houston it might because I mean, the Jets
- 48:13Speaker 1: are gonna pick here again at ten. So if you
- 48:16Speaker 1: don't get sauce, now you're not getting sauced. Yeah, I
- 48:17Speaker 1: would take sauce. You're not getting the sauce. You get
- 48:22Speaker 1: a little tickle. They see that. I had to suppress
- 48:25Speaker 1: that one time. So maybe sauce now and then, So
- 48:32Speaker 1: you know, if it is sauce, probably you might you
- 48:35Speaker 1: might be starting pushing pushing tackles down the board a
- 48:37Speaker 1: little bit, so you know, someone think about But obviously
- 48:40Speaker 1: a long way to go, Giant. The Giant's gotta be
- 48:43Speaker 1: going tackle, right, I think, so get there. The Giants
- 48:47Speaker 1: are up lame duck quarterbacks, some protection in his last year, right,
- 48:52Speaker 1: protection for whoever's back there. I know, I just I mean,
- 48:55Speaker 1: we saw him last year at training camp and the
- 48:58Speaker 1: best their best players were like naked bootlegs to where
- 49:02Speaker 1: he just ran down the field and I was like, well,
- 49:03Speaker 1: we can't tackle you. Yeah yeah yeah, keep going. Yeah,
- 49:06Speaker 1: great play guys. Yeah, but then with it if if
- 49:10Speaker 1: you're right that the tackles start to slip. We thought
- 49:13Speaker 1: Houston might take one at three. Maybe they get one
- 49:15Speaker 1: at thirteen instead and they don't trade that pain. Yeah yeah, Well,
- 49:19Speaker 1: I mean I think I don't want to speak for you, Paul,
- 49:21Speaker 1: but I think you you agree with this, like you
- 49:23Speaker 1: liked the cornerbacks. You you would you would go with
- 49:25Speaker 1: these two. These two cornerbacks I think are like far
- 49:29Speaker 1: and away separated from the pack. We haven't Gardner and Stingley.
- 49:33Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned Thibodau's name lately in the last half hour.
- 49:37Speaker 1: At one time, he was projected to go first overall.
- 49:40Speaker 1: Really like all last season, I felt like he was like,
- 49:42Speaker 1: you know, whenever it kind of glanced at it, he
- 49:44Speaker 1: was always kind of a top He was the he
- 49:45Speaker 1: was the top pick until the pre draft process started. Yeah. Changed.
- 49:50Speaker 1: Apparently his character has is the question mark. He doesn't
- 49:53Speaker 1: play hard all the time, perfect perfect lay. Apparently he
- 49:59Speaker 1: needs to be humble. According too, But Fred's I mean
- 50:03Speaker 1: Fred's funny joke. Aside being curious, you feel like Robert
- 50:07Speaker 1: Sala he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that
- 50:10Speaker 1: would that he would sniff that out. I don't. I
- 50:11Speaker 1: don't know if that would. I almost didn't recognize David
- 50:14Speaker 1: Andrews without the mullet. Well wait, wait, you should have
- 50:17Speaker 1: seen him. We went to a community service event and
- 50:19Speaker 1: he had his whole head shape. Yeah, it's grown back in,
- 50:22Speaker 1: but it just he looks totally different. He looks good. Yeah, yeah,
- 50:26Speaker 1: with Teatrich Wise Um, but the reason I bring a
- 50:29Speaker 1: Fibidou's name is, you know, so the Jets are at four,
- 50:32Speaker 1: do they say, wow, he didn't think Theibadeau was going
- 50:34Speaker 1: to be there. Well, they made their pick. Oh he
- 50:36Speaker 1: was supposed to be like a lot of people have
- 50:38Speaker 1: him around ten now, but we were talking about like
- 50:41Speaker 1: the beginning of the draft process, a lot of people
- 50:44Speaker 1: thought he was one. Um. Yeah, I think the defense
- 50:49Speaker 1: at the top of the draft is I mean, that's
- 50:51Speaker 1: that's the takeaway so far right right? Not great for
- 50:54Speaker 1: the Patriots. I mean, that is the defensive type Headcoats,
- 50:56Speaker 1: So wouldn't be surprising they take a yeah, defensive player here.
- 51:02Speaker 1: I mean, people are tipping. I don't know where they're
- 51:05Speaker 1: getting this info, but uh, Sauce could be the guy. Yeah, yeah,
- 51:10Speaker 1: we just do that the rest This guy could be
- 51:12Speaker 1: the guy extra. I mean, no, we don't know. This
- 51:14Speaker 1: is just it's the same. Everybody has access to Twitter
- 51:18Speaker 1: and that's where we're getting it from. So, I mean,
- 51:20Speaker 1: I think it's looking like my pick number twenty one
- 51:22Speaker 1: could be Jermaine Johnson. Right, I'm all in on too.
- 51:27Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't know though, he's he's probably
- 51:33Speaker 1: two cornerback picks away. I mean, it might be mcduffy
- 51:35Speaker 1: than Booth after this, Well, they're turning the lights. Okay,
- 51:41Speaker 1: all right, let's see what the Jets the pick is
- 51:45Speaker 1: in there slapping each other on the back. You got there, guy,
- 51:48Speaker 1: Jets war, I mean, what are you doing? Fourth made
- 51:52Speaker 1: a pick and the fourth pick it's like like we
- 51:56Speaker 1: got a good player. Maybe it's just the relief that
- 51:58Speaker 1: you just you got the guy I know who you mean,
- 52:01Speaker 1: Like when you pick fourth overall, don't you go and
- 52:03Speaker 1: say it, we're gonna get one on the four guys. Yeah,
- 52:05Speaker 1: it's performative, it's for the cameras. Really is pathetic with
- 52:10Speaker 1: Waital Dallas goes, well, we got to continue the trend
- 52:13Speaker 1: from last year after the Patriots pick, or you know,
- 52:15Speaker 1: we gotta like we gotta do that too, right, all right,
- 52:20Speaker 1: Jets fans are getting rowdy. Yeah, they just started moving
- 52:23Speaker 1: this along. I know. Yeah. Well, I'd love to know
- 52:26Speaker 1: who David Andrews up there would would like to do,
- 52:28Speaker 1: how he'd feel about maybe. First of all, David Andrews
- 52:30Speaker 1: would love Georgia player. A Georgia player. There's a there's
- 52:36Speaker 1: a handful he's had several and it all worked out.
- 52:42Speaker 1: I mean, just a stack stack defense. I mean, what
- 52:46Speaker 1: are they gonna look like next year? That's that's like everything.
- 52:48Speaker 1: They're just gonna roll in another who Georgia. Yeah, like
- 52:51Speaker 1: eight guys who are all going to be first round
- 52:53Speaker 1: picks and only play for a year or two and
- 52:54Speaker 1: then they make it some transfers in. That's what Alabama does, right. Well,
- 52:58Speaker 1: that's the other thing about the college We transfer port always. Yeah,
- 53:01Speaker 1: it has really changed. I think, you know, the whole
- 53:07Speaker 1: landscape for players. When I was in college, you could
- 53:09Speaker 1: only transfer once, and now you can turn People have
- 53:12Speaker 1: been transferring like three times. Right, It's everywhere and blaming
- 53:14Speaker 1: it on COVID or injuries or In the twenty twenty
- 53:20Speaker 1: two NFL Draft, the New York Jets select Sauce Gardner
- 53:26Speaker 1: defensive back Cincinnati. Okay, I would love to know if
- 53:30Speaker 1: on the roster it's gonna say Sauce or a'm on Yeah,
- 53:33Speaker 1: well probably both. Shout out to shout out to Matis.
- 53:36Speaker 1: I know Matis Sarah. Yeah, he did our draft podcast
- 53:38Speaker 1: with us. Somebody to do a wellness check on him. Yeah,
- 53:41Speaker 1: he was. He was drawing pictures of Sauce on on boards.
- 53:43Speaker 1: It was a little bit uncomfortable how much he liked Sauce.
- 53:46Speaker 1: But now he goes to the Jets, so four for
- 53:49Speaker 1: four on defense. Yeah, I think it's kind of cool
- 53:52Speaker 1: that Goodell said Sauce Gardner. I want to see him.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Does he have his his goal player? Oh, of course,
- 53:57Speaker 1: he's got the nice light blue suit on. Yeah, all right,
- 54:02Speaker 1: got some swag. I just I feel bad for the
- 54:05Speaker 1: kid being Sauce. Why do they make this walk so long?
- 54:11Speaker 1: I know at one point he's going the wrong way,
- 54:16Speaker 1: He's going the wrong way leaving. Oh no, he's got
- 54:20Speaker 1: good recovery speed. You can see it right there. So
- 54:22Speaker 1: you know another thing. Cincinnati, they had a bunch of
- 54:25Speaker 1: guys too. Yeah, he has a whole jewelry. Right, that's
- 54:29Speaker 1: a fall all right. While while Sauce gets to the stage,
- 54:32Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Um, we have a lot more.
- 54:35Speaker 1: We're gonna be here until the end of the first round,
- 54:37Speaker 1: so don't worry about it. We got plenty of time.
- 54:39Speaker 1: We're gonna start taking calls and emails coming up a
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- 59:25Speaker 1: New York Giants pick. I'm joined by Sam Prince, a
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- 59:52Speaker 1: see tonight, his wish to announce the Giants first pick
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: comes true. We hope this wish will be a turning
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: point for Sam as he looks forward to being a
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: sports broadcaster in the future. Okay, Sam, it's time to
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: get your wish true baby, Thank you, mister Goodell. With
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: a fifth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: the New York Football Giant select Cavan Timodel, defensive na.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Draft. All right, welcome back to
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. We are audio only for the rest of
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: the night. But when I say the rest of the night,
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: I mean the rest of the night. Yea. So it's
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: Eric Scalamino, Paul Pirello, Tamara Brown, and Deuce Mike do
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: So and introducing Yeah he a man who needs no
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: introduction apparently. So the Giants just Giants just picked Thibido
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: and the Panthers are on the clock. A team that
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: should be in the quarterback market. But at this point,
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: this is a great question, this point, they said, Yeah,
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: this says a lot if you If you don't, I mean,
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: I don't see how you can possibly take one at six. Yeah,
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: but this is the team that really needs one out
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: of the teams that are coming up. Do you believe
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: that the Panthers when they say that, they said that
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: they've gotten their guy and Sam Donald, Sam Donald. No, No,
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: the Panthers believe, they don't even believe, but Sam Donald
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: is better than Kenny pick it on the leak Willis. Oh,
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: oh that's a big statement, Paul, No, it's not. No,
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: it is it is it really is. Well you really
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: believe that? No? No, I think that he's better than
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, I think he's right. The question is
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: now the Panthers believe that. Yeah, if that's true, then
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: but they're not gonna side with Donald because they think
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: Donald is the answer. They know he's not the answer.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: But you can't take a guy, right, Okay, that far
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: away from his value. What about the Panthers trading for Baker? Now,
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: I think that's more realistic or Garoppolo. But aren't weren't
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: they in the same draft class? Yeah, Baker and uh yeah,
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: well one and three? Right? Yeah, so low you got
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: two guys from that class or what are you gonna do?
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: But now you have a little Now you have data
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: on both of them, and you know, I would say
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's better than Sam Donald, I would agree, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: you know, now he's been better in the pros. But
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: no question. But I think I think you know, when
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: you have a high first round draft pick, I agree
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: with Paul, if the quarterback isn't good enough, you don't
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: waste that pick on a quarterback just because you have
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: the pick. You're gonna have to wait, I'm sorry, until
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: you find the guy that you really believe in, right,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: you know, and you get a bridge guy and you know,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: and curt me if I'm wrong. But you know, Jordan
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Gross was a long time tack for them, of you know,
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: I mean, it's a valuable position. They can get the
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: best tackle in the draft, whoever they get pick. You
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: know that was good. I wasn't. I was waiting for Paul, like,
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like a sum But you
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: know there's an argument to be made that hey, at
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: least give Donald or whoever it's going to be after
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: him some protection. You can get the best tackle, whether
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: you think it's Neil or Aquanu right now. Um, but
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: this is you know, things are starting to get interesting
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: in Kyle Hamilton. I mean, Paul and I well picked
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: him as we think going to be the best player
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: out of this draft. He's still sitting there. You know.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: It's funny too, A little fun fact Sam Donald Kenny
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: Pickett one year difference in age. Wow, Donald is twenty
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: four and pick It is twenty three. So he's one
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: of those six year guys. Yeah, and Donald left early.
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: So yeah, it feels like Donald's been around forever. Now interesting. Um, okay,
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: so Carolina on the clop, why don't we take a
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: call on the sticking hot line eight five? We've had
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: some people really hanging out small that is, Fred's got
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: to try to hit Oh no, no, okay, So let's
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: go to Patty. You want you want to reset there
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: for you? Patty? Are you there? I'm here. Good. Hey,
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: you don't have a cousin pack. I'll tell you what, man.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: Some people think watching the draft is like watching paint dry,
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: But you guys every year that this show is like
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: one of the things I look forward to during the
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: football season. Well, thank you. I'm sorry that your life
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: is so boring. But I really I haven't even started
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: yelling at Fred yet. I got two things, guys. One
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: of them I'm I was hoping would make Paul laugh,
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: But I did one of these PFF for I did
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: a few of these PFF simulators, right, And I got
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: up to number six with Carolina by trading our first
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: round next year number twenty one and Nikil Harry to
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: get up to get out Tory. So it would have
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: been a one and a two, but we threw Harry
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: and so it had to be two ones. I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to do that until he gets traded.
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: Crazy prediction too, And and I'll end on this. So
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: I think that Chicago was going to trade up to
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: the Patriots pick at number twenty one. I think a
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: lobby is going to be on the board and they're
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: gonna do this thing that like to reunite their college teammates,
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: you know. And I think they're gonna give up number
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: thirty nine, number forty eight and next year one. I
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: think that's that's my crazy prediction. Um. I don't think
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: it's really going to happen, but yeah, I think we're
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: gonna take Zion Johnson, like I said, Paulieu. But that's
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: all I got, guys, all right, it looks like it
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: looks like Carolina made their pick. I have a new
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: appreciation now though for the for the rivers vers tides
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: argument that happened during one of these parties. Yeah, you
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: described it to me in the past, but now that
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: we're in the middle of right about people, it happened
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: right about yeah, and I'm imagining like just a drop.
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: Two people were walking by. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: it was like when you hear people arguing out in public,
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: like yeah, that really? Is that real? Is that real?
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: That's people were just like walking by right there, and
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: they would They were staring at Fred Nandy, Me and
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: Eric were just like, I don't know, and you guy,
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: and Nanny's throwing out f bonds yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah,
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: oh yeah, because that's what he does because he lives
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: by the ocean and he thinks he knows what's going on.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: He doesn't know, he doesn't know. They must have thought
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: you were arguing about the draft, speaking of the ocean.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: Let's go to Fidel in Florida. What's up, Fidel? Hey,
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: how are you guys doing? All right? Uh? Two quick stories?
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: So two cool story handful? Uh? We was actually very funny.
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: Was I really hoping? I'm glad we haven't yet traded
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: for Robbie Anderson because yes, she came into my showroom
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: again and furniture with my friend, and he was the
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: biggest douche bag. He really high time most of the time.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: Whenever we have athletes or celebrities who come to our
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: show room and boy stuff, they're very gracious, they take pictures,
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: everyone sign whatever. He and his girlfriend were the two
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: rudest people I've ever had to deal with. So I'm
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: glad I don't have to cheer for him, or I mean,
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: compared to his numbers when Mike and yep, Michael talked
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: about his number as yet, yeah still there. Okay, Well
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: that's good intel on Robbie and that's one. And then
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: also to my this my big head moment of the
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: night for me is I do not understand why everyone's
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: talking about either Baker Jimmy g as trade candidates for
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: other quarterback needy teams. But why hasn't Jordan's Love's name
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: come up? I mean, he's a first round pick under
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: his grand Rodgers the last two years Arrod has resigned.
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: Why has that his camp asked for a trade or
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: why hasn't anyone been asking about him for trade? I mean,
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: that's not a it's not a bad point like, if
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: you're Jordan's Love, are you're getting impatient? You know, Jordan
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: Love could ask for a trade. I could see that,
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: but I don't see people being interested in him. They
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: could have drafted him if they wanted to, and then
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: he played and was thoroughly unimpressive in the one game
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: you played. Yeah, now you could say Donald hasn't done
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: anything either. I don't think Donald is a hot commodity,
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: you know. I think Baker Mayfield has had some success. Yeah,
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: I think he's been in the league for four year.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: I don't like Baker Mayfield. I didn't like him coming out,
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: but he's been in the league for four years. He
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: had two decent years in two social years. Appreciate the coffidel,
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: but I think it is a good point. Like what's
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: going through Jordan Love's mind right now and his agent
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Well, yeah, I hate your head. I also
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: think this is a chance that this is it for
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and he knows that. Well, yeah, let's go
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: to the stage. In the twenty two NFL Draft, the
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers select tackle North Carolina State. Well, there's your
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: first tackle off the board. There, it is there, It
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: is that's you know, it's what I say last year.
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: It's like tires for your car. You know, when you
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: draft offensive linement, it's t's not sexy, but the car
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere without the offensive line. So um as
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: we're seeing him come up right now, you can just see.
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are just freaks of how big
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: and cut and strong. It's like Wriggly Spearman comp What
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: is that quick turnaround for the Giant. I think he
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: thought he was gonna get trade by the Jets. No,
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: I'm not sure where where is he from? I'm sure
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: because it's probably the flag of his native could be
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just looking at the colors. I mean, yeah,
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: probably the green is Nigeria. I know that. Okay, so
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: he maybe he's from Nigeria. Okay, Well, the Giants are
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: on the board with him, and him and Evan Neil
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: were largely considered the two like that they separated from
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: the rest of the tackles much like Gardner and and
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: Uh and Stingy for a corner. So now you're hoping
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: he's gonna open up holes for Christian McCaffrey. Christian McAffrey
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: can stay healthy, uh, and we might get a look
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: at him the summer and preseason. Maybe you know, there's
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: that we're going to be working out with the joint practices,
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: perhaps with the with the Panthers, and in a preseason game.
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: So um, it'd be a lot of fun to see
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. You know, he probably that's you know, he's
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: probably healthy in August. I mean that's I was actually thinking,
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: what are the chances he's going to be practicing that, right?
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: I know i'd put him in bubble wrap. All right,
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: game one, go ahead, Christian, here's twenty five carries, especially
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: against another team where you know you run the risk
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: of getting the competitive juices going and the guy goes,
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: you know, harder than you want him to. I can
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: imagine being up on the side over there, the binoculars. Oh,
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: every stuff, the cards coming out. Let's go back to
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: the phones. Todds in North Carolina. Todd, Todd, Todd, what's up? Todd?
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: I don't know. I looked at Eric in that suit,
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: and I think that's what they call the kids call
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: it casket suit. Hopefully you've taken away his sharp objects
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: when they trade out of the first round. Wow, Eric
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: looks good. I gotta give Eric props. He's he's a
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: little later in the evening. No, I'm resigned. I've come
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: to peace with the trade down possible. He's got his
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: Charles Titwiller outfit on. He's all set. Not how it's pronounced.
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: He was already just to rip it off like the
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: Hulk when they trade down to the Hulk. Angry. Yeah, John,
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: actually not as good. Oh how about that ball? I
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: have to have to say that Eric has some good
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: counterpoint usually and they get it. They you know, they
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: have a good discussion. So the major part that I
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: took away from his show with him, he has the
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: clue on right at the end, and they basically said
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: that defense still wins championships because you need that one
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: play to turn to the game. But I'm thinking defense
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: doesn't get you the championship. You have, that's the thing,
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: you know. And I don't know what it's going on
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: with your phone. It's a lot of noise. Thanks, but
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: thanks for the call. I was I was talking to
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: a higher up here, and the higher up was saying,
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have defense. Defense wins your champion
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: Looking look at the Rams, what won that game? You know?
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: For the Rams. You know, I said, well what got
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: them there? Yeah? You know, I would tell you what
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: won that game? Even that game offense. Yeah, they had
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: to score twice in the last ten routes. Yeah, the
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: trade for the quarterback is what won them the Super Bowl. Yeah,
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: I mean sure it helped getting von Miller and others.
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: The answer to the questions you need to be a
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: good team, if you need to be a well balanced
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: team and have good players on both sides of the ball.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: But the whole one thing wins is so off right,
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: and especially where it might just comes down to how
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: does that one particular game unfold and was you know,
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty three and encapsulation of what the twenty
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: eighteen Patriots were not really right? Not only them, but
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: they won that game. Just think about the playoffs. They
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: scored already seven in whatever like forty two or whatever.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: What did they score? They scored in crazy amount of
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: points against the Chargers and Chiefs, and then the Super
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: Bowl unfolded in an entirely different way. And that's the
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: market of a championship team is the ability to win
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: games in different ways. Last year's Patriots team couldn't win
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: in different ways if the other team scored more than
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: twenty five points, Patriots couldn't win. And that's and that's
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: why it's and I hate having to say it, but
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: you know, you just look at the Patriots defense right now,
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: and it's there's not a lot there that really makes
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: you excited, that gets you that. That's why tonight you
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: can take your defense wins championships. But I think that
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: they need an infusion of energy and talent on that
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. And they also need some
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: young players that they spent draft capital on to step up.
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: Giants made their pick. Okay, we know what. We don't
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: have it yet. All right, let's go to Ben and Pittsfield.
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: What's up? Ben? What up? Guys? How are you guys
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: doing on the fine draft we're doing? Okay, I'm glad
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: that the picks started to pick. First off, it's heard
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: about the call about Robbie Anderson. Imagined if you guys
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: have been following years on him choosing, but he was
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: like a guy. How Second, the New York Giants select
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: Evan Neil tackle. All right, so the second tackle go ahead? Ben?
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: So sorry, Um, what I was saying is Robbie Anderson.
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: It was this past year with really bad quarterbacks play,
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: they just highlighted him on the field freaking out. And
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: so there was a tweet and I think it was
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: about Baker Mayshell doing steps anthers and he he or
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: Instagram post star and he put uncrecommented under it like no,
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: like he didn't want Baker as a quarterback. Um. I
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: thought that was just pretty funny because of the story
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: about how he was really and stuff like Yeah. But
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: on a more serious and a more draft note, Um,
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: so two two cornerbacks taken first four picks, right, help?
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: But thinks there's gonna be a run Like people if
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: they on a cornerback, they're gonna have to go up
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: for it. Um, because the dress Scott a really good cornerback.
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: Do you think there's any like that that makes like
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: the past draft room say, okay, now there's a really
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: good cornerback in our division. Maybe we need someone on offense,
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: like a wide receiver. Does that like gip the does
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: that like post them in the wide receiver direction? And
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: I I mean in the past couple of days too,
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: I still love with rayl on birth though I'm hoping
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: that it worked out. But sure, yeah, I like Burst
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: that I do like Burk, but I just I don't
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: think you can be reactionary to what the other team does.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: And and oh well we now have to drop this
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: guy to counter that guy. You gotta stick with what
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: you believe. And I mean, I still think cornerbacks a
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: big need for the Patriots. But these guys going early,
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: it's it's a drop now. And I don't think anybody's
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: going up to get right. I mean, those two guys
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: were supposed to go in the top ten anyway. Yeah,
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: Now maybe the fact that they went three four, yeah
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: it was it was a little surprised, but I don't
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: think anybody thought they were getting out of the top
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: ten now. So oh, I still think there's a gap
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: those guys that are in the top ten that are
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: now saying, oh my goodness. You know, we thought we
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: were gonna have thoughts there. We thought we were gonna
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: have right, So now you gotta take something different if
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: you ask me like, I don't think you can. If
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: you need a corner, you can't take Trent McDuffie at
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: eight because that's because right, you know, you were gonna
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: take Sauce and now he's not there. You can't do that.
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: That's how you get in Trump. No, this is you know,
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: we're getting into Jamison territory now. It was like, is
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: somebody gonna that's the one to maybe take a jump on. Yeah,
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: well okay, thanks Ben, No, I don't like Jamison. Let's uh,
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: let's check spiing Fresno. What's up? Speed? It's the draft, right, Okay?
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: Are you are you imbibing or what's going on? Okay?
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: But uh, I love it. I love it. It's it's
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: I hate Roger Goodell day. I love it, but I
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: but I love Robert Craft earlier. He was awesome. He's
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: like the cares matter, an enjoyable guy. Um. I liked
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: how he had like the crowd. Guess what Bill's gonna do?
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: It's just fun. He's like I feel like he'd be
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: a fun person to just hang out with him party.
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, especially I can only imagine that that'd
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: be great. Uh. But so, like I know, in a vacuum,
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: like you're thinking wide receivers, cornerbacks probably our most pressing needs,
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: and uh, Paul, I'm not trying to do that, like
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: this is the one thing, but I'm I'm really consumed
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: by a concern with the Patriots run defense. I'm like
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: sick of like these past two years, like three years
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: or so, like the three four or five plus yard
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: conversions on the ground whatever down and um, the offense
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: sees the defense to get the stock you know, he
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: got it starts to stop in the run. I think
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: that's the most consistent weakness on the Patriots in recent history.
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: And it's just like an unsatisfying thing to watch as
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: a fan. You know, get a run on like that. Um, yeah,
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you guys, like just tell me
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: like one or player the Patriots realistically could have a
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: shot at ticking this weekend. You could just kind of
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: scratch the run. This is for you. Yeah, this is ah,
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: this is my uh. I mean you could probably start
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: with Jordan Davis. I don't know if he's he's gonna
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: be there, but you know, if that's the bug in
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: your in your bonnet to be in your bonnet, he
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: would be I think a transformational player for the front um.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: But if you're gonna go down, Travis Jones from Yukon's
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: another one. I just mean and they from see I
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: think he's more of like Barmore. I think he's more
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: of a penetrator type, get in a quick, get up field,
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: and I think you've got that with Barmore. You kind
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: of want a big nose tackle type. But I mean
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: it's a good time to point out they resigned Carl
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: Davis last night, so you're bringing the whole band back.
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: He's he tweeted out, let's run it back, Patriots. I
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: don't know what that we What are we running back?
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: I don't know what we're running backs are too. I'm
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: still running away from you. Guys all make fun of
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: me when I do that. But you know, let's see
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: if we get another thirty year old guy, you know,
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: run it back. Well, he's the only twenty nine Paul
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: so he's thirty? Did he just start thirty? But I
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: think it's a it's a great it's a great question.
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: I mean, I would go more towards in terms of run,
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: stopping the edge, the edge of the defense, getting fatty
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: to sit in there. It's the thing. It's, you know,
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: why don't we try that's sidelines to sideline guy, you know, linebacker.
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: You don't always have to be you know, starting from
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: a three point stance. If a guy knows how to
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: shed and get through the garbage they call it. Well,
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: let's you know, you know, let's let's in the Washington
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: Let's let's take one of those guys and let's try
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: to do it that way. Falcons made in the twenty
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Drake London
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: wide receiver Drake. I don't know why every pick gets made.
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: It always comes as a complete stunner to everybody on
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: like NFL network. I mean, our lads had that exact
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: pick Atlanta, Drake London, So it couldn't have been that
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: much of right, it couldn't have been that much of
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: a surprise. So that's the first wide receiver off the board. Yeah,
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: you know you're not happy to surprise. No, I'm not
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: a big I didn't love him. I didn't really like him.
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: I mean, people get the Harry hebgb's about, you know,
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: contest to catch guy from the PAC twelve right, And
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: I think it's apt. I think he and I will
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: say this, I think when I saw him in person
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: in Indie, he looked like a kid still. He looked
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: like a guy who's still growing into his body and
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: who he's gonna be. I know, he's got a basketball background,
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: so you know, that might be a little bit part
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: of it. So I think there is potential there, but
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not a guy who's separating has
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: the quick speed, you know. So for me, I would
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: rather to see the Falcons. If I was a Falcons fan,
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: go Jamison Williams and swing for the fences with this pick,
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: where you get a guy who potentially be a game changer,
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a game changer, Jery.
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: And that's the thing, you know, you mentioned the PAC
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: twelve and like, I'm not a college buff. Okay, I'm
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, but just from fifty thousand
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: foot view, it's it seems like like the USC's used
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: to produce quarterbacks and wide receiver and they don't anymore. No, not,
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: you know they don't. Why is that because they're all
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: going on? Well, First of all, I think that USC
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: has had a new coach, Like every time I blink
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: my eyes, yeah, so like that that's problematic having coaches
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: rolling in and out. Um. But second of all, I
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: think to Mike's point, I think Jamison is better. First
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: of all, London's coming off a fractured left foot, So
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: it's not like he's healthy. Yeah, he's not healthier than
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: Jamison is. So I think at the end of the day,
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: if you're betting on someone to come back from injury
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: and be this game changing, explosive player, I would have
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: gotten from Jamison Williams. No Drake London too. I mean,
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: I'd rather take the chance. I don't even think it
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: would be read between Jamison now. I think I might
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: be harsh on Drake London. A lot of things Mike
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: said about him. I would say the same things our
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: big headed friend Andy sort of clap back at me
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: a little bit about that on We'll see We'll see Twitter.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: You know. As usually as the case, I generally up
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: being right over Andy and right that's well established. I
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: do think that he is a better athlete than Nikkio Harry.
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he's aid a question about
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: that um tremendous basketball player. He had an opportunity to
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: play at usc UM, so I don't think that's the
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: same player. But I do wonder when I watch guys
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: in college making all kinds of contested catches. Traylan Burkes
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: is a big receiver like that, that's not what he
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: did at Arkansas wasn't just jump balls. I see a
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: lot of jump balls to Drake on and it looks
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: like to me he's I mean, again, I'm not an expert.
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: Looks like he's a build up speed kind of guy
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: as opposed to just getting off the line of scrimmage
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: and getting open right And I think in the pros
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: it's harder to do it when you have to do
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: it that way because you don't have as much time. Yea,
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: the timing gets disrupted if you can't get open right away.
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: That's the drawback on my guy from Cincinnati, Alec Pearce.
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: He doesn't you know, he doesn't get that. He's a
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: destitutes man, Drake and destitutes. And who's the Falcons quarterback? Now?
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: Who is it? So? I mean they took Kyle Pitts
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: last year, big who crazy Mariota signed? Yeah, yeah, Marcus
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: Marcus Mario too, so a couple. I mean, you see
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: what they're probably going for with a couple of big
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: targets like that. But I don't know, it's an interesting
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: way to go about it, to to put those things
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: in place before you really have the quarterback. But I
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: think it's you know, if this was any other year,
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: that's ten times out of ten going to be a
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: quarterback pick, right, Yeah. Yeah, and you know last year
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: they're probably looking at Justin Fields or Trey Lance at
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: that position, or you know, Zach Wilson. And now you
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: know they're going with a receiver. So well, Robert Griffin
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: loves Drake Lendon says he's Mike Evans two point h Yeah, okay,
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: I guess so, I mean to each his own, Eric,
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: the Seahawks are on the board. Yeah, you said if
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: there was a team that might be a well partner. Yeah,
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: but I was thinking more for the later on, for
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: the second round, all right, but never mind. No, but hey,
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: you know, don't twenty one to nine big job if
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: the Patriots, I mean for any team. Yeah, oh, I
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: think I think Seattle's a trade partner, not just for Patriots.
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: But yeah, let's get back to the phones. Um, let's
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: see what John and Duxbury has to say. What's up, John,
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: gentlemen and ladies and gentlemen. I'm enjoying listening to you.
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: Thank you. I just want I just want to say,
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: if they draft a god or they trade down, you're
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: gonna see me in the eleven o'clock moves and you
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: won't be celebrating, right, He'll be next to the well
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: dressed guy blue suit, kind of swan dive off thee.
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: I've already you guys make you're blowing this way. So John,
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: who do you want? Well, I'm hoping, you know, you
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: gotta they need quality. I don't want to better than players.
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: I want one good player, you know. I'd like to
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: see if if he'll they have to take him, I'd
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: be okay with dad. If they're gonna move him and
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: he's gonna replace um uh uh. What's his last name? Mccordy?
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: Thank you? You know so? I mean he's what thirty
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: two years old? Yeah, he's up there. They've got to
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: think I'm thing some baldy people in time. You can't
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: you can't be drafted in the keel AMR because niel
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: he excuse me, all right, all right, I speak your Yeah,
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: all right, thanks John, I appreciate it. I hope everything
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: works out for you. You can tell you could tell
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: he was annow England. We're gonna have to close off.
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: They put us in your will. Yeah, yeah, all right.
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: So Seattle remains on the pick is they're gonna make
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: a pick. Seattle's gonna make a pick. A couple of
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: Jersey observations. Pap pointed, I'm a homes Jersey. I really
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: like the mac Jones Alabama Jersey. Though I saw one
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: of those saw let's let's escort that my homes Jersey
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: guy out of here. I want to I want to
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: grab my mic and walk over to my seasoning a
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: man on the street right, and I'm like Billy on
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: the street man under stress. Why would somebody wear? Why
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: was already wearing in New England? So do you have
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: our mock draft in front of you that I didn't print?
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: Eric print, I was not printed. I didn't not print
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: our mock draft. So I shall go to sorry one
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: thing I didn't print. I'll go out to dot count
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: check it out myself. Where they wiled. Somebody had a dolly.
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: They brought a file captain up. It was everything Eric,
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: Eric needed, I mean Fred needed a dolly to get
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: on his draft publications. They're out of binder clips downstairs.
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: Fred had to get an extra backpack to bring all
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: this stuff up. Well. John and La writes in at
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com. Love seeing you all
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: draft coverage is great. I want Lloyd Dean quay Walker
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: at linebacker or McDuffie booth or Elam at cornerback, one
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: of the ride receivers Olave Wilson or Williams if they
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: fall watching show prep spotting Scow with all that paper,
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: you can't spell killing trees without Rd's got more than
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: I do this this draft. He does, keep crushing it.
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: Go pass. Thanks John, Thanks John. Well. We got two
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: friends here with mac pats and see there's the old
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: Alabama like man, man, if you're just joining us, um
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: you know the audio only. We are live at Gillette
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: Stadium at the draft party sponsored by Blood Light, so
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: it's it's good to just have everybody back. It feels
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: the draft is over though, because they took all our
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: cameras and lights away in the corner. Yeah, those sad
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: guys over there. But I do see people with plates
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: of food and I asked for hot dogs and they
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: haven't got here yet. The night is young. Somebody down,
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: miss miss hey hot dogs? Hey, you could just take
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: a break, you know, I want apps. So out of
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: the top nine picks, we have eight of them, all right,
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: and we have a direct hit on the current pick,
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: and we have Seattle about pick in the twenty twenty
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: NFL Draft the seat Charles Cross another tackle. There you go,
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: a tackle run. Yeah. So the only one so far
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: out of the top nine that we didn't have going
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: yet is Kyle Hamile. Hamilton's yeah, and that's and we
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: had Gardner and Stingly three four. We just had it
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: the other the other way. Yep. I'm a little worried
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: about this. Next picks the Jets. That's Jameson Jamison, some
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: talented guys around that. Putting your chips, you're going all
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: in again. I think Jamison's a possibility here for the
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: with the Jets. Yeah, yeah, well I would like it
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: because I don't really I'm not. I don't think. I
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: don't think Jamison's the next animal. So I would take
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson if I were, then I like that just
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: because I think that they could use him right away.
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: Yeah what but you know with with Zach Wilson is
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: down the field. You know what we saw from him
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: in college. Uh, you can only see the uh the
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: potential there. If it is it is it Jamison Williams.
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: If people tipping the already, No, no, I haven't seen
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: I don't see. Okay, so you got how rich me
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: and he says he doesn't think it will be Will
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: Gilliams because of not being having him available. Well why not?
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: Why not take Kyle Hammon. I was just gonna say,
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: you got a defensive head coach. Is it just too attractive?
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: And you look at like a modern, perfect safety that
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: can do it all and you trade it away Tom Adams.
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: A little while ago they took Gardner and they signed
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: I think dj Read So they have two, you know,
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: starting caliber corners that should really improve their secondary. You
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: put a guy like Hamilton. It's a tough choice. It's
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: a tough choice, but I think they need They need
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: a receiver too, because they're on paper the receivers look good,
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: but they haven't panned out. Like I love Elijah Moore. Yeah,
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: I think he's a piece. But the other guy, Mims,
- 1:29:46Speaker 1: hasn't worked out. He was inactive with a lot of games, healthy,
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: much different than New England. They could go in a
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: number of directions. They need a lot of help. Bob
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: and Wilmington writes in at web Radio at Patriots dot Com.
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: It's the best show of the year. Always great to
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: see you all in the opening show. Tamara is a
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: great addition. Can't wait to see if her prediction for
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: the Patriots pick comes true. My only question is why
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: is Eric dress like a pit boss in Vegas? Because
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: it's Vegas? Baby? Hello, direct hit with the quando two
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: for Carolina. Look at us, look at look at us,
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: look at us in the twenty in the twenty minutes
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: it took to throw that together on Yeah, that's how
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: we were. Claire. I looked at Mike. I said, Mike,
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, come in here. Yeah, let's make a
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: mockery of it. Let's Claire in the UK. Hello everyone, Hello,
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: my read uh Deuce. I'm liking your almost old line
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: guy enthusiasm. I love me some offensive line. Yeah, it's official.
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: Paul now hates me. Thanks for the draft coverage, y'all. Rule.
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: I'm listening to Peu with my TV on mute. I
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: thought you were a tight end guy class. What happened?
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: You're cheating on the tight end with the old line.
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: She's going over to the old line. Hey. Shout out
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: to all of the international fans that are staying up
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: that are gonna be It's gonna be three four in
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: the morning when the Patriots picked and I know they're
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: out there and they're waiting. Wow. Another another Tamara fan,
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: Neil writes in he says the draft is great, but
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: I just want to say Tamara is amazing. She's confident
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: and proving she knows her stuff. Let's hope Bill moves
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: up get us a wide receiver. You're doing better than
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: my first draft show, Yeah, which was just didn't even talk,
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: didn't even talk. She's doing better than this draft show.
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on, Oh, we were doing a podcast
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: for that. I thought we were just hanging up. UM's
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: got two phones. She's working over here too, you know,
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: constantly refreshing on both. So what are you learning? Are
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: you any buzz out there on Twitter? Or she's feeding
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: in front of the Giants? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: doing that. I would just like to say that my
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: two picks are still available, and so I'm just kind
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: of hoping that they are still Jets. The Jets did
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: make another pick, Jets pick us in Yeah you got it.
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: I see someone spoiling said it's another direct another direct
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: hit for us having a strong so the receiver position,
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: but the one that yeah, it's good, it's a good pick.
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: It's a good pick. I think he's a real good player.
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: I liked him a lot. I think he's a Patriots,
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: you know, kind of guy, run after catch, tough, go
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: with the ball in his hand, went to the Jets two.
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: I am, I am, But I will get a good
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: look at him a couple of years, a couple of
- 1:32:28Speaker 1: you know, a couple of times a year. So two
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: wide receivers go off before j Jamison. Does that tell
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: you that maybe doctors are thinking he's not gonna be
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: ready this season. I don't know. I just I think
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: there's so much hype about him, and I think that
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that that questions are kind
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: of just swept aside a lot. I don't know. I
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: think he's the reality of where people think of him
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: isn't quite the Randy Moss of it all that a
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: lot some of the people are thinking, I don't think
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: there's really been any surprise yet. No. I mean, I
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: think a couple of guys have gone in different orders,
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: but the guys that were sort of slated to go
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: in the top ten of gone, Yeah, that's nine out
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: of ten. That's true. That in the twenty twenty two
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: NFL drives The New York Jets select Garrett Wilson, wide
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: receiver Ohio State. All right, well, as we told you,
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, the defensive coach, took an offensively the Commanders
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: the first the pick of the Washington Commanders in their history. Yeah,
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: so Cartman me wrong. But are we moving a pretty
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: good pace right now here? We are? We're not even
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: We're not even an hour since the first pick was announced. Correct,
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: already going to call me up and throw away? Uh,
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: let's see. Brendon writes in from Port McQuary. That's Australia.
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: It's a rare tweet tweet tweet that I get to
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: listen live today and I'm loving the energy. For anyone
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: who was hearing this show for the first time, keep
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: listening throughout the offseason, as you won't find better, Patriot,
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: It's content anywhere else. Now, Deuce, that's a smart international fan.
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: He's in Australia where it's morning over there. Thanks to
- 1:34:05Speaker 1: all of you for the work you do and putting
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: these shows together. Question, with the Dolphins and Bills being
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: active in free agency and the Jets having two picks
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: of the top ten, I'm worried that we're going to
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: lose the off season in the AFC East and what
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: this might mean for our chances in the division next year.
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: What do you think the Patriots need to achieve in
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: this draft to be sure we remain competitive in the division.
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: And should I be worried. I think you need three
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: players that are going to come in and play like
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: last last year. And I think if you do that,
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: you've got a foundation. But I still don't think it's
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: an assurance that you're you're gonna waltz back into the
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: playoffs again. You're you're in a dog fight. And I
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: think that's what's apparent with all the moves in the AFC,
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: with the schedule, every week will be a dog. The
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: problem was like in the past, you could pencil in
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: AFC Championship. Where is it going to be Gillette or
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: you know, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Indy, whatever it was you
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: have to worry about. You have to worry about the
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: AFC East. Yeah, first and foremost. Yeah, like forget about
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: two twenty twenty two. I know this sounds crazy, but
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: at the end of twenty two, if we say that
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: Matt Jones has gotten better from twenty twenty one. Then
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: we're gonna be okay if we If we don't say that,
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: then we got some issue. Man. I think, I mean,
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: I think we have a trade. Find some player. First
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: one Washington in New Orleans, I believe. Okay, according to crapsheet,
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: first one of the nights, so New Orleans probably packaging
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: a couple of those Uh what sixteen and eighteen? No,
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: it's Philadelphia. Sorry, New Orleans is at eighteen. New Orleans
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: does have sixteen and nineteen though, so probably, I mean,
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: would it be those two? Could could be at least
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: one of those two. Should see what else they have
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: in the second Definitely one of them. They could definitely
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: switching spots with one of them. I don't know what
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: it costs them to switch spots. Let me see where
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: they are in the second round. They have the forty
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: nine overall pick in the second round, so that's a possibility. Oh, man,
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: Kara Wilson's there, he's on TV right now. We're Melissa start.
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: But that's just a prime example I talked about, like
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: fell in love with him as a player, Like, oh wow,
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: Pagris probably never get him, but he's a jet I
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: can deal with him Isaac has uh. I don't know
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: if this is a compliment or not. He's he's from Winnipeg.
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: He says, you guys are hilarious and joy watching while
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: it was possible to be honest, you sound way younger
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: than you look great. I guess I don't think that's
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: a compliment. It's a marriage young. Yeah, she's she bringing
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: the average down us. She's as young as she sounds.
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: Well that's how that's how old you feel on the inside.
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: Right right, it's just a number two and it's draft,
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: just the number Draft night. You're excited. Everybody feels young.
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: Undraft get a new toy tonight to be excited about.
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: What are the odds of having Jamison Williams, Tyry Hill,
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: and Jalen Waddle in the same division. M Yeah, they
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: could be on the same team. Wow, Miami, Yeah going
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: for the glitz? Where is Miami thing anything for a while?
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: I don't they only have four picks I think in
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: the whole day. Yeah, they don't have a first round pick. Okay, no, no, no,
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: one the same team. Yeah, but they don't need Jameson
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: Mike and Rhode Island says, this is my favorite show
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: of the year. I look forward to it every year.
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: I wanted to share a few tips for how to
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: have a successful show. One always tip your waiter, two
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: always tip your barber, and three olways tip your cab driver.
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: But never ever ever tip your picks. It's uh sixteen
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: that New Orleans is trading, and they also traded a
- 1:37:33Speaker 1: third and a fourth. Okay, let's well, Williams, would this
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: be the kind of guy you go up to get?
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Hamilton? That could be one? Two? Yeah,
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: so Minnesota is the team um at twelve? I gotta
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, between Williams or Hamilton, I'm not
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: sure who else you would trade up to get. Yeah,
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: one of those two guys that don't The Saint's really
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: needs some wide receivers though. Yeah, yes, so I think
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: that Williams, even though he's not ready to go, probably
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: because they're looking big picture. Jamison is not ready to
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: go either. Do a Cl'll be on the pup Togain,
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: He'll get the chemistry down in the training room in August,
- 1:38:19Speaker 1: and then you know, by October November, it's a maybe
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: it's a different team. They got their quarterback playing the
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: long game, do you Sammy and Jamison working out like
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: getting training. He's such a goofball. It's just so funny
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: to watch. I thoroughly enjoy it. But he's got some
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: kind of wacky trader and he's just running through pads
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: and doing weird moves and stuff. But I was I
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: was happy for him last year to has some success. But, uh,
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: we'll see what happens here. This is this could be
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: a big one, Wayne writes in from Tasmania. Uh. He says,
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: it's a lack of qbs in the top of the draft,
- 1:38:52Speaker 1: making it more likely that the Patriots pick isn't the
- 1:38:55Speaker 1: quality player it would be in a normal draft because
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: quarterback selections aren't pushing better layers down. Question. Yeah, but
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't think you know until we
- 1:39:05Speaker 1: get close and that's that you know, then you might
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: have a team we're still ten picks away needs a quarterback.
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: I mean, I understand what he's saying. Though, it would
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: be a better year if, right, last year, right, if
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: you had like three or four quality fifteen, if you
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: were picking twenty one and you need five of them
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: were going to be quarterbacks and you didn't need one, Yeah,
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: that'd be better for you. We must have a lot
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: of listeners from Australia right now, Um another one time?
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: Is it in Australia? It's it's like eleven twenty I think,
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: right at night or in the morning. Oh yeah, we
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: needed stuff here he just did in his head. Oh yeah,
- 1:39:38Speaker 1: he's got he's got like twelve or fourteen hours. Right,
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: He's got a world depending on depending on which side
- 1:39:42Speaker 1: of the continent you're he's got a world clock in
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: his head. Like where would I rather be than right here? Oh? Absolutely?
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: Five on a Tuesday. If I was in Jake in Australia,
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: can you hear us? Yeah? I can night. Well we
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: ended he's eleven twenty bang on the world clock. That's right,
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: world clock, right up? Just call him one. So what
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: do you think, Jake? Oh think what beautiful to listen to? Okay,
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: if everything's going completely as expected? Everyone going in I'm
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: known order? And who do you want do you want
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: you want the Patriots to make a pick? What do
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: you want to do you want to yeah, because some
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: people want to trade down. I just I just wanted
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: to get at a game. Ready pison someone that can
- 1:40:37Speaker 1: come in and make a difference. Absolutely, But who do
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: you think that will might be. You don't really care.
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: I don't care as long as this an impact player. Yeah, okay,
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: offensor defense. Let's let's do fit offensor defense. We'll go
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: We'll go defense defense. I agree. Yeah, all right, well, Jake,
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: I appreciate you, uh, you know, taking the time for Australia.
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: Give us a call. Good connection too. By the way, Okay,
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: the further away over here, the further away people, they
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: seem to have better connections than people like here in
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: Massachusetts or even in the building like the operator when
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: they used to put plug the thing and you know,
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: just one I just walk borrow two one nine. You know,
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: we we we always say that no matter what we
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: talk about, we have somebody who's listening that's an expert
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: in truth. You know, I want to have somebody call
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: us from the International Space Station. Okay, I know you're
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: listening up there, So if there's a way for you
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: to call, I'd love you to call. And and you
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: know what we did to the show. We did have
- 1:41:44Speaker 1: the the astronaut from New England what was her name,
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: Sonny Williams? Ye think, yeah, who came and visited space. No,
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: not from space, but she did come and visit after
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: she got back from space. You can't really put a
- 1:41:53Speaker 1: pin in the map for space space. Yeah. Yeah, but
- 1:41:56Speaker 1: we've had the North Pole. We've had you know, I'll
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: see all far reaches of the Globe seven continent. I'd
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: love to get somebody orbiting the Earth to It's a
- 1:42:05Speaker 1: big gat that's the white whale of of Peu's draft show.
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: Here comes the Saints pick. Ok, right, let's see. I'm
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: kind of sad we don't hear that noise. That that
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: noise is always it's my draft work going the pick.
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: There's quite a few people, is that Tony even Zolens? Yeah,
- 1:42:23Speaker 1: oh my God'll tell you what. I am excited to
- 1:42:27Speaker 1: be part of this broadcasting crew for Amazon. You may
- 1:42:30Speaker 1: recognize this guy right here next to me. He's gonna
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: be helping me make this announcement for a prime video
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: that will be erring on Week two of the NFL season,
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: September fifteenth, Los Angeles running back Austin Ekeler and I
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: guess you can tell probably it's no surprise the first
- 1:42:50Speaker 1: game that we're gonna kick it off. It's gonna be
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: out on the Arrowhead on Thursday Nights against the Chargers
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what Austin if he if he won.
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: My opinion about this game, whoever has the ball last,
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: it's gonna win this game at least way it's always seen.
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: Talk to the fans time much the thick look. It
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: doesn't get much better than this. It doesn't get much
- 1:43:12Speaker 1: better than this Thursday night football. You got two high
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: powered teams battling it out. It's gonna be at It's
- 1:43:18Speaker 1: gonna be an amazing thing. Even if you don't rob
- 1:43:20Speaker 1: with the with the charges achieve. I know you got
- 1:43:22Speaker 1: me on your fantasy team, so there's no point and
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: not watching. It's gonna be awesome. I'll tell you what
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: we're looking for. He goes back sixty two years. You're
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: not going to see every time these two teams get together,
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: it's explosion, it's fireworks, it's touchdown's great defense. So we
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: will see you there. September fifteenth, Well we were on
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: a good pace, all right. So well those guys announced something.
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: There you have it. It's still talking. The Lions moved
- 1:43:49Speaker 1: up to twelve. Oh yeah, wow, so the action is
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: starting to come. Ye, hitcum Spill's movement. This uh, the
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: Lions traded with Mini sorting wide receiver run perhaps. Okay,
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: so where did the Lions come from? Paul thirty two?
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: They traded thirty four and six twenty two NFL Draft,
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints select Chris Ohio State. Yeah, whoa,
- 1:44:21Speaker 1: so smooth I just I didn't love him, but I
- 1:44:25Speaker 1: was impressed with you better. I liked Wilson better. But
- 1:44:28Speaker 1: it's undeniable how athletic and Smoothie is as an athlete.
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: And I'm back Tobacco Ohio State. But what what you
- 1:44:35Speaker 1: all said about them needing a receiver? Yeah, absolutely right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: it's just a question of which one did they want.
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: And I mean, clearly Jamison Williams. Maybe the knee, then
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: he is dropping him a little bit um so, but
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: let's let's point it out. Jamison Williams Ohio State teammates
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: with both those guys and went to Alabama, So I
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: mean it kind of I know, we had the knee
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: and he probably had the better season. But that's how
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: it's kind of lining up. And now Detroit's coming up
- 1:45:07Speaker 1: to take Yeah, so pabody else they're going to come
- 1:45:10Speaker 1: up and take a quarterback or are they getting Jamison
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: Williams that's a good question. They got their guy in
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: Hutchinson and they already made their pick, right, so do
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: they go offense here? I think Williams and and and
- 1:45:22Speaker 1: Hamilton Hamilton. Yeah, those are the only two I would
- 1:45:25Speaker 1: trade up for no quarterback. I wouldn't idn't the fire
- 1:45:27Speaker 1: with them because you could probably get them at thirty two,
- 1:45:29Speaker 1: and they could have stayed at thirty two and gotten
- 1:45:30Speaker 1: a quarterback. But I think Hamilton's the pick that They
- 1:45:33Speaker 1: also got a second round pick. They traded a second
- 1:45:38Speaker 1: and a third for to move up in get it.
- 1:45:41Speaker 1: They get a second pick in the second round Detroit does.
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: So this is the Lions traded. Yeah, they're winning the
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: off season. Yeah, literally a great night. I mean, And
- 1:45:53Speaker 1: aren't they hosting the super Bowl next year? And Super
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: Bowl the Draft next year? Are they? I think so? Yeah?
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: You might be right? Wow, yeah, all right, it might
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: be the year after. I think it might be twenty four.
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: I think, all right, let's see, let's go back to
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: the hotline. Is that not a thing anymore? Let's get
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: some emails. Yeah, let's get to the emails. Barry is
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: in Philly. Love the coverage is always first time listening
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: to your draft coverage and I'll never go back to
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: the TV version, love it. I have two questions for y'all. One,
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: could you see the Patriots move up to grab a
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: player that isn't an immediate need right now? I personally
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: would love Jordan Davis if you can get him from
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: twelve to sixteen. I feel like Davis and bomb Or
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: would be a top tier duo for years to come. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's only a couple of
- 1:46:48Speaker 1: positions that you legitimately couldn't say isn't a need, whether
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: it's immediate guard, cornerback or next year tackle, running back, receiver. Um,
- 1:46:59Speaker 1: there's just a lot, not a lot of positions where
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: then though they're set there, I think anywhere almost anywhere
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: you could say they need an influx of talent, except
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: for maybe tight end quarterback. I mean, those are probably
- 1:47:09Speaker 1: the two that are you know, going to be what
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: they are right now. Yep. Um, But it looks like
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: the pick is in yeah quick, and now the Eagles
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: are coming up to thirteen. So wow, the trades bill
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: was right. Boom boom boom on a movement, and this
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: movement is scaring me that my picks yep. Yeah, you
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: went all in. I'm getting so close. While we're waiting
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: for the pick. The second question that Brendan has is
- 1:47:39Speaker 1: or Barry, do you think there's a chance Christian Watson
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: drops to our second round pick? And would you take
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: him over a safer guy like Metchi. Watson seems to
- 1:47:47Speaker 1: be all over the place in mock drafts. I feel
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: it's hard to miss on a six four two ten
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: guy with four three six. I like Watson much more
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: than Metchi. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Abs, I don't know.
- 1:47:59Speaker 1: I think it's a trade. By the way, the trades
- 1:48:01Speaker 1: are starting to come down. Yeah, Philadelphia moved up, yep, yep,
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: And it looks like Williams is going to go to Detroit. Well,
- 1:48:08Speaker 1: the dream is over for many. Philadelphia has three picks.
- 1:48:13Speaker 1: Which one did they trade? I don't know, because they
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: have fifteen, sixteen, and nineteen. They have fifteen, eighteen and
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: fift two to two others. Yeah, sixteen and eighteen, sixteen
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: and eighteen. Okay, see right here, I'm looking out Philly.
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: I can't read that. I don't have my readers friend, Okay,
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: I'll have tomorrow the young the young one read it,
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: so I can't see it, young eyeballs young. I need
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: young eyeballs on this h Mike from the oc uh.
- 1:48:48Speaker 1: Is this draft top heavy with respect to cornerbacks or
- 1:48:52Speaker 1: there are other prospects we can get in the mid rounds.
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: I feel that position is our biggest need, and I'm
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: afraid there could be a run of the top went
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: back to the teens of the first round. If McDuffie,
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: if McDuffie, booth Elam are gone by the time of
- 1:49:07Speaker 1: our pick, I think we should trade down to get
- 1:49:10Speaker 1: more picks. Do you agree or what prospect do you
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: think is still worth taking if we hold onto the pick. Depends,
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: like you said, If Jordan Davis is there's hello, that's
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: a big got we gotta pick. Come in. Yeah, let's
- 1:49:25Speaker 1: go rug. The Minnesota Vikings have traded a twelve pick
- 1:49:29Speaker 1: to the Detroit Lions. With the twelve pick in the
- 1:49:33Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select Jamison
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: Willman Williams who wide receiver Alabama. It's called the wide receiver.
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: He's just gonna say whoa whoa on every single pick. Goodness,
- 1:49:48Speaker 1: I'll say it again. There was yet to be a
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: guy selected that wasn't really projected to be selected at
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: this point. But that's what they do in every pick.
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: It's like a stunner, that's what he does. You know that. Well,
- 1:50:00Speaker 1: I mean, good for Jamison Williams, you know Detroit. I
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: would just like to say good for the Patriots that
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: Jermy Johnson is still available. Okay, yeah, don't. You might
- 1:50:11Speaker 1: have called Hamilton's kill. Hamilton's the only guy who I
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: think that is dropping. So fine, Okay, I would agree
- 1:50:17Speaker 1: with that, but that red suit. My goodness. I'm just saying,
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: all my chips are in on those two and they're
- 1:50:23Speaker 1: still here. Yep. Well, don't get attached. Don't get attached.
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: I'm committed. Yeah, I mean, it's we're getting that. We're
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: getting there. I'm committed in there, it would make sense,
- 1:50:35Speaker 1: but yeah, we are right. Okay. Thirteen, So now the
- 1:50:39Speaker 1: Eagles are coming up. So we've had three straight sister receivers,
- 1:50:42Speaker 1: four receivers in the last five picks. Does not really
- 1:50:46Speaker 1: we had a little bit of a run on tackles.
- 1:50:48Speaker 1: We got a little bit of a run on receivers
- 1:50:49Speaker 1: and kind we're kind of passed the high round wide
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: receivers now right, you think we're gonna dip in. You know,
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: maybe you know what I think it's comment. Could be
- 1:51:00Speaker 1: your guy, Jordan Davis could be the guy here. Jermaine
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: Johnson could Yeah, you're a guy. I know he's really good. Yeah,
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: I know you like him. But somebody else I like,
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: I like him's gonna call him and say, if the
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: teams want to draft you, just say no, you're waiting.
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: We haven't melted. I prefer to be taken by the Patriots.
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned Cur said it's it's un American for
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: me to just get taken by anybody. We haven't mentioned
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: any linebackers. No, no, uh. And I think we're getting
- 1:51:28Speaker 1: into the range now where some some mocks would project,
- 1:51:31Speaker 1: you know, Devin Lloyd. Most people thought those guys would
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: be in the Patriots ago, so they should be availab.
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: I mean, I think Johnson's the best edge. I think
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: he should go in the next three picks. All right, um,
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: you know what a good time to take a little break, Matt,
- 1:51:48Speaker 1: What do you think? All right, let's take a break.
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: We'll be right back. We got a lot more coverage.
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: We're only on pick what thirteen? We had a long
- 1:51:56Speaker 1: way to go, but We'll be here with you here
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- 1:56:49Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome
- 1:56:53Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft. All right, we're back here Patriots
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: Filtered Draft Show Live from the Patriots Draft Party sponsored
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: by bud Light. Paul, Yeah, any bud Lights yet? No? No,
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: well you they found upon that sort of thing when
- 1:57:13Speaker 1: I'm on the air, I don't really understand why. No,
- 1:57:15Speaker 1: it's not like I'm a loose cannon. Already the videos off.
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: You know, nobody will know that's true. You are put
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: in your sippy cup. Well, George Tomorrow, George Davis to Philly,
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: as we talked about, I mean, he would have been great.
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: I made peace with him going well before the you
- 1:57:33Speaker 1: know what they thought, duce, because we do. We have
- 1:57:35Speaker 1: Jordan Davis going the next pick to Baltimore. So finally
- 1:57:38Speaker 1: had to get up in front of them. I mean,
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: we got we had a good mock I love that
- 1:57:42Speaker 1: you can somehow whip our mock withere like no, we knew,
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: we knew we did, we did, But you know how
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: hard it is to actually come clos getting a first round.
- 1:57:54Speaker 1: The logic makes it so hard. That's that's the thing.
- 1:57:57Speaker 1: You see Jason locking forward. Eagles did indeed jump in
- 1:58:00Speaker 1: front of the Ravens to land. Joel's seeming like such
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: a Ravens kind of big guy walking forwards a Baltimore guy,
- 1:58:06Speaker 1: so he's paying attention to that stuff. Um, guys that
- 1:58:10Speaker 1: are still available. We mentioned Kyle Hamilton, Trent McDuffie. Mcduffy's
- 1:58:15Speaker 1: still there, the Kobe Dean is still there. Uh, Jermaine Johnson, Uh,
- 1:58:21Speaker 1: Tomorrow's guys still there? Um, you mentioned co Optus. What's
- 1:58:26Speaker 1: his deal? I think he's a kind of Ryan Kerrigan type,
- 1:58:30Speaker 1: you know, a try hard defensive end, a lot of effort,
- 1:58:33Speaker 1: maybe maxed out, that kind of you know good. Yeah,
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: and I think, you know, kind of like Hutchinson. Throw
- 1:58:40Speaker 1: him a four three defensive end, go get the quarterback.
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: That that's his thing. I think he'll be pretty good.
- 1:58:45Speaker 1: But like I said, I think the question of is
- 1:58:47Speaker 1: he is he maxed out? Baltimore made their pick as
- 1:58:49Speaker 1: well too, so we get to quick action here. Quick
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: action So I mean, whoever said ten to fifty? Yeah,
- 1:58:56Speaker 1: So let's hope that we're moving moving, so so we
- 1:59:01Speaker 1: think that you know, Baltimore got skipped over, right, it
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: was passed over, and then you think you think it's
- 1:59:08Speaker 1: the reaction of a team that gets skipped over. We're
- 1:59:10Speaker 1: gonna make our pick quick, like we had we want
- 1:59:13Speaker 1: we didn't want him, and we knew it was like
- 1:59:15Speaker 1: it was like a Scalvino Herum guy right now, raft
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: Jordan David big Joe. Yeah, I mean you knew it
- 1:59:31Speaker 1: was a big dude. But then he went to the
- 1:59:32Speaker 1: combine and it was like I just pictured him next
- 1:59:34Speaker 1: to Barmore. Oh I did. I did too, And I
- 1:59:37Speaker 1: think it was the combine that did it. Them After
- 1:59:39Speaker 1: the combine ites like, there ain't no way. People are
- 1:59:42Speaker 1: way too obsessed. We look at this numbers and size
- 1:59:44Speaker 1: and I mean it took seven suits to make that
- 1:59:48Speaker 1: one suit. I like that. That's why they put the
- 1:59:50Speaker 1: red in because they didn't have enough. They're like, just
- 1:59:55Speaker 1: throw it in there. Look at the hat on this guy.
- 1:59:58Speaker 1: What the hell is that? Pigs? That is some suit?
- 2:00:02Speaker 1: What is it? What's going on? Wow? Okay, I think
- 2:00:05Speaker 1: so far that's the most fashionable, right. So George Georgia
- 2:00:10Speaker 1: number two, he's got the bow tie. He looks good. Yeah,
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: look at that. I mean looks a little bit like
- 2:00:15Speaker 1: a waiter. Yeah that's all right, but a very rich
- 2:00:18Speaker 1: waiter right now. But I like the style. Yeah that
- 2:00:22Speaker 1: gold change. So does a diamond change? Ravens go defense again?
- 2:00:28Speaker 1: Uh it appears, uh, it appears that they will you
- 2:00:34Speaker 1: know something, you know something go irish hat all right, yeah,
- 2:00:39Speaker 1: don't don't pick, don't get cute, just make the pick.
- 2:00:41Speaker 1: Just say it. Well, I mean, we all know what
- 2:00:44Speaker 1: Ed Reid did, yeah in Baltimore, and what kind of
- 2:00:47Speaker 1: player he was and how he changed their defense favorite
- 2:00:50Speaker 1: non patriot, you know, I mean he's I mean, you
- 2:00:53Speaker 1: can say he's a Ravens kind of guy, but I
- 2:00:55Speaker 1: don't know who he isn't there kind of guy. That's
- 2:00:58Speaker 1: why I think he's the only guy who slid. Yeah, um,
- 2:01:02Speaker 1: even though it's hard to really make a case that,
- 2:01:04Speaker 1: you know, anybody really blew up. You know, oh that
- 2:01:07Speaker 1: was a second round guy. So right, nobody's really slid yet.
- 2:01:13Speaker 1: But do they do they still you know, show guys
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: that are sliding or did they stop doing that? Like
- 2:01:19Speaker 1: oh yeah, like that's too mean, you know, like the
- 2:01:22Speaker 1: Brady Quinn moment, I don't know who's in the room.
- 2:01:25Speaker 1: The biggest The biggest one I think was Lamar Jackson.
- 2:01:29Speaker 1: Like every time, like teams pick kept picking over him,
- 2:01:32Speaker 1: picking over him, they kept going, he kept going back
- 2:01:34Speaker 1: to him. Yes, so that wasn't too far ago. I
- 2:01:36Speaker 1: wonder like if they've changed that policy. But like we'll
- 2:01:39Speaker 1: see if Kyle Hamilton, if we get down there and
- 2:01:42Speaker 1: he's still there, will they show what his reaction is
- 2:01:44Speaker 1: to not be would would you say though that I
- 2:01:47Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily say that he slid. I would just say
- 2:01:49Speaker 1: that some teams biggest wasn't a safety. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: because no other safety has been taken. Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah, okay,
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: that's a good point. Um, Devin Lloyd still out there. Yeah,
- 2:02:07Speaker 1: some people had him as the best linebacker. Yeah, and
- 2:02:09Speaker 1: I think in some you know, you see him sometimes
- 2:02:11Speaker 1: sneak up into into the teens. But this is you know,
- 2:02:14Speaker 1: I think, right now, this is about what you thought
- 2:02:17Speaker 1: would be there as as you're coming down the pike
- 2:02:19Speaker 1: to the Patriots picks. I mean, might be the one
- 2:02:22Speaker 1: guy you know, maybe a little bit higher than he's
- 2:02:25Speaker 1: the one guy maybe in Jermaine Johnson it might be
- 2:02:27Speaker 1: the one guy kind of fallen. So Tomario is getting
- 2:02:29Speaker 1: her wish so far. Absolutely, Um, geez, we have a
- 2:02:33Speaker 1: ton I don't know what air quotes mean. What does
- 2:02:35Speaker 1: that mean hosting the show? Sorry, you do a great job,
- 2:02:42Speaker 1: great job, good job today, tonight, good job excellent, Thanks
- 2:02:47Speaker 1: for coming all right? Another he could one for anybody,
- 2:02:52Speaker 1: thinks Another emailer from Australia from Melbourne Martin Um. She
- 2:02:56Speaker 1: says the Jets are having a great draft, Miami is
- 2:02:58Speaker 1: looking set with their field position players against our now
- 2:03:02Speaker 1: horrific cornerback depth, and the Bills haven't punted against us
- 2:03:05Speaker 1: since like December. We don't have the high end draft
- 2:03:08Speaker 1: capital to fill the holes on our roster, and I
- 2:03:11Speaker 1: don't think we've acquired the correct free agent signings to
- 2:03:13Speaker 1: really boost the team to win the AFC East. I
- 2:03:16Speaker 1: don't know, guys. I'm feeling very very anxious that this
- 2:03:19Speaker 1: might be it for a while, and we're staring down
- 2:03:23Speaker 1: the barrel of third in the AFC East for a
- 2:03:26Speaker 1: few years at least. Well that I mean, you're not wrong,
- 2:03:30Speaker 1: I don't, but the long term, I mean, this is
- 2:03:32Speaker 1: where you're right. You're a rebuilding team. You got a
- 2:03:34Speaker 1: quarterback last year. I mean, what did you expect? I mean,
- 2:03:38Speaker 1: what do people think rebuilding means? Snap your fingers in age?
- 2:03:43Speaker 1: We want everything, can't it doesn't happen. I don't know
- 2:03:49Speaker 1: if you've noticed tomorrow we're a little bit spoiled. That's
- 2:03:52Speaker 1: a little bit. We're not gone to a super Bowl
- 2:03:54Speaker 1: in three years. I mean, look, they gotta they have
- 2:03:57Speaker 1: to hit in the draft, and you know, I know,
- 2:03:59Speaker 1: it's it's hard to sit here and watch other teams
- 2:04:02Speaker 1: taking all of these very talented players who have been
- 2:04:06Speaker 1: very much hyped up over the last two to three months.
- 2:04:10Speaker 1: But there's a lot of good players in the draft
- 2:04:12Speaker 1: and a lot of players who are under the radar.
- 2:04:15Speaker 1: I'm not guaranteeing the Patriots are gonna get any of
- 2:04:17Speaker 1: those players, but they have a bunch of selections to
- 2:04:19Speaker 1: make over the next three days and they are going
- 2:04:21Speaker 1: to be a better football team then than they are
- 2:04:23Speaker 1: right now. But I think your concerns are valid. You
- 2:04:26Speaker 1: said they're a third place team. They lost two out
- 2:04:28Speaker 1: of three to Buffalo. We know how that one win came,
- 2:04:30Speaker 1: and they lost two to Miami. They've lost multiple games
- 2:04:33Speaker 1: to Miami in recent years, so that's what it's all about.
- 2:04:36Speaker 1: It's about beating those teams. And then you look at
- 2:04:38Speaker 1: the last team, the Jets. They just added some good
- 2:04:40Speaker 1: players as well. So no question the Patriots have their
- 2:04:44Speaker 1: work cut out for them. But I still think there's
- 2:04:46Speaker 1: some exciting excitement to come, exciting picks, and you know,
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: we just have to be patient here. Gretchen writes in
- 2:04:52Speaker 1: from the Pacific Northwest. We're just talking about the Pac twelve,
- 2:04:55Speaker 1: looking forward to a defensive player for the Patriots pick.
- 2:04:58Speaker 1: The Patriots need defense and defense. Yes, I love a
- 2:05:02Speaker 1: dynamic wide receiver, yet that is a nice to have,
- 2:05:04Speaker 1: not critical. Patriots are in critical mode though, Yes, Ohio
- 2:05:08Speaker 1: states Wilson would have been pre prenominal. Uh phenomenal. Yeah,
- 2:05:14Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, maybe uh golly disliked the Jets.
- 2:05:18Speaker 1: And for all the fans who are worried about hold on,
- 2:05:21Speaker 1: hold on hold. Twenty two NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens
- 2:05:26Speaker 1: select Kyle Hamilton's defensive back Notre Dame, and the league
- 2:05:33Speaker 1: is definitely dragging these out because the and there it
- 2:05:35Speaker 1: is for the TV purposes, because the Texans had already
- 2:05:38Speaker 1: had their pick ready Twitter, but trying not to tip picks,
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: but they're they're way behind this point. So yeah, I
- 2:05:46Speaker 1: mean it's it's a production. I get it. It looks
- 2:05:48Speaker 1: like the Ravens have traded wide receiver Marquise Brown, who
- 2:05:51Speaker 1: was a Cardinalists for draft picks with Kyle Hamilton. No not,
- 2:05:58Speaker 1: uh no, I'm not sure. It's just that to be
- 2:06:00Speaker 1: a field gates that to be a field gates, No,
- 2:06:03Speaker 1: no compensation going the other way. But but which one
- 2:06:06Speaker 1: is Marquis Brown? Hollywood? Hollywood? Yeah, he's the hard What happened?
- 2:06:09Speaker 1: I would have way what happened? He got traded traded
- 2:06:12Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. Wow? So they not only harrumped the pick, right,
- 2:06:16Speaker 1: they're like whatever, Yeah, that's done with this draft? All right?
- 2:06:23Speaker 1: So what Hamilton off the board to Nara. You know
- 2:06:26Speaker 1: he's off the board. Can't get him? Yeah, all right.
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: Safety wasn't our need, and that wasn't who I had
- 2:06:32Speaker 1: my ships. Okay, it's Jermaine Johnson. I mean I love
- 2:06:38Speaker 1: I love that Samari's coming in hot on Jermaine Johnson
- 2:06:40Speaker 1: because I you know, we talked all week edge edge.
- 2:06:43Speaker 1: For me, I would love to get a legit edge player,
- 2:06:48Speaker 1: so I would I would be all about it. I
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: just you know, but he's one I thought will be gone.
- 2:06:54Speaker 1: I thought there were plenty of places I saw him
- 2:06:56Speaker 1: in the top ten. So uh, he's definitely a foller.
- 2:06:59Speaker 1: And you know you can take from that what you will.
- 2:07:01Speaker 1: What about the Texas, that's an interesting trade. Um for
- 2:07:03Speaker 1: the Ravens. They traded Hollywood Brown in the pick number
- 2:07:07Speaker 1: one hundred, So that's a third comp pick, right, yes,
- 2:07:12Speaker 1: for number twenty three. That's that's a good trade. I
- 2:07:15Speaker 1: want to finish Gretchen's email. She says, I've been a
- 2:07:18Speaker 1: Patriots fan since the seventies or the late seventies. Love
- 2:07:21Speaker 1: your show, and I love me some Paul in an
- 2:07:24Speaker 1: appropriate way. Hello. PS, I am not in the space station,
- 2:07:28Speaker 1: but dreamed of that as a child. So close enough,
- 2:07:32Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, yeah, that's as close as we're probably
- 2:07:34Speaker 1: gonna get. Um, Cody writes in Um He's from Kansas, says,
- 2:07:41Speaker 1: I believe we need to talk offensive tackle or take
- 2:07:45Speaker 1: offensive tackle Bernhard Raymond at twenty one. Although taking a
- 2:07:50Speaker 1: tackle is not a flashy selection, I believe Raymond would
- 2:07:53Speaker 1: help secure a long term, dependable line for Mac. One
- 2:07:57Speaker 1: player he reminds me of is, of course ce bass
- 2:08:00Speaker 1: a Baston valmer Leah similar in size, uh, and they
- 2:08:03Speaker 1: both come from European backgrounds Waltmar from Germany, Raymond from Austria.
- 2:08:07Speaker 1: Although they do not guarantee success, Raymond certainly fits the
- 2:08:11Speaker 1: mold of another historically successful New England tackle. I mean
- 2:08:15Speaker 1: I had a great time and at the combine lining
- 2:08:18Speaker 1: up waiting for Raymond to come out, and there was
- 2:08:20Speaker 1: that awkward pause where everybody's everybody. Somebody asked a question
- 2:08:23Speaker 1: and I just hopped in. If you knows, I teed
- 2:08:27Speaker 1: him up. I was hoping for it. You know, you
- 2:08:28Speaker 1: don't want to walk him right in the witness I've said, hey,
- 2:08:31Speaker 1: is there anyone who's you know path you kind of
- 2:08:33Speaker 1: studied or followed in terms of international players, and you know,
- 2:08:36Speaker 1: he jumped right into Jacob Johnson and Sea Bass. The
- 2:08:40Speaker 1: comparisons are easy. I mean, he a great story just
- 2:08:42Speaker 1: about how he found football. I think he watched The
- 2:08:46Speaker 1: blind Side, that'd be like showed him what American football
- 2:08:50Speaker 1: was all about and really wanted to try it and
- 2:08:52Speaker 1: found a team in Vienna, Vienna Vikings. Uh. I believe
- 2:08:55Speaker 1: it's like that a literation Vienna Vikings and you know,
- 2:08:59Speaker 1: came to this dates and played some tight end was
- 2:09:02Speaker 1: you know, all over the place. But but so he's raw,
- 2:09:04Speaker 1: and I mean I think he's a player that would
- 2:09:06Speaker 1: need some time to develop. But um, I would I
- 2:09:08Speaker 1: would definitely be more on Tamarow's side of the tracks
- 2:09:11Speaker 1: with the defensive end, but I think the tackles. If
- 2:09:13Speaker 1: they took him or Penning, it's, you know, eat your vegetables.
- 2:09:16Speaker 1: I love it if they took him. Um, not in
- 2:09:19Speaker 1: the first round, but you know, with the Patriots having
- 2:09:21Speaker 1: Germany as a home market. Now, I know he's not
- 2:09:24Speaker 1: from Germany, but he's close enough enough. I take it.
- 2:09:31Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty two NFL drafts, the Houston Texans
- 2:09:36Speaker 1: select Kenyan green guard Texas A and M guard. Huh,
- 2:09:42Speaker 1: that's one of the guys that had a visit here, right, Nicks.
- 2:09:45Speaker 1: That is that a reach? No? No, not a reach.
- 2:09:49Speaker 1: I mean I don't like guards in the first round.
- 2:09:50Speaker 1: But he's the best guard. Okay, yeah, he's in the
- 2:09:53Speaker 1: him and Zion. He had he had a visit here,
- 2:09:55Speaker 1: did he not? There's a thirty visit. I think the
- 2:09:59Speaker 1: next pick might be that what I would consider the
- 2:10:01Speaker 1: first surprising pick in terms of first rounder that not
- 2:10:05Speaker 1: a lot of people had in the first round. Johan Dotson,
- 2:10:07Speaker 1: I think is the next pick goes to Washington. Yeah, okay,
- 2:10:10Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people mocked him in
- 2:10:12Speaker 1: the first round. No, and he's big, good good hands,
- 2:10:16Speaker 1: real good hands. Um. I liked him. I liked him,
- 2:10:19Speaker 1: didn't love him. I felt like he was a little
- 2:10:21Speaker 1: bit more of a Day two guy. But um, you know,
- 2:10:24Speaker 1: I just didn't see even ton of We did mention
- 2:10:26Speaker 1: him early in the show, as you know, you never know,
- 2:10:28Speaker 1: like I mentioned, wasn't you that brought it up? I
- 2:10:30Speaker 1: sure was? He forgive. I want to make sure you
- 2:10:34Speaker 1: get you do Freddie. You know, far be it from
- 2:10:36Speaker 1: me to take away here your day in the sun.
- 2:10:38Speaker 1: If I had written it out, you wouldn't be able
- 2:10:40Speaker 1: to write read it. But you know what, he just
- 2:10:42Speaker 1: can't be nice. I can't can't be nice to you.
- 2:10:46Speaker 1: Uh so you still got your Jermaine Johnson man. Yeah, Ave,
- 2:10:51Speaker 1: I'm actually two for two here. I had Booth and
- 2:10:55Speaker 1: Jermaine Booth is definitely going to be available, like he
- 2:10:58Speaker 1: is going to be available, made Johnson. I'd still Jordan
- 2:11:02Speaker 1: Davis like celebrating with with the Eagles fans. He went
- 2:11:05Speaker 1: in the mix there, like I love that jumping around
- 2:11:07Speaker 1: without that sorry excited. Yeah, only that was with his brothers. Right, well,
- 2:11:13Speaker 1: I mean, hey, let's talk about wide receiver, right, I
- 2:11:15Speaker 1: mean dominating the off season with the movement of all
- 2:11:19Speaker 1: the different guys around the league. We heard macrow talk
- 2:11:22Speaker 1: a few weeks ago about you want these guys, you
- 2:11:24Speaker 1: gotta go up and get him. I mean, I think
- 2:11:26Speaker 1: that's been completely confirmed here in the first round with
- 2:11:29Speaker 1: you know, the run run in you you know, I
- 2:11:32Speaker 1: mean Traylon Burks, Christian Watson. I mean, those guys that
- 2:11:35Speaker 1: you thought might be late day one, early day two,
- 2:11:38Speaker 1: and they could be going soon. Freddie you since he
- 2:11:41Speaker 1: just said still, yeah, I would not lose any sleep
- 2:11:45Speaker 1: if they picked him in the first round, you know,
- 2:11:47Speaker 1: but I would. I would like defense charges probably won't
- 2:11:50Speaker 1: take him. They have they have edge guys with Bosa
- 2:11:53Speaker 1: and they got Mac right, yep, yeah, they got Cleo
- 2:11:56Speaker 1: Mac This offseason. It was a lot. Do you believe
- 2:12:01Speaker 1: in miracles, Kyle and Korea? Right? Since I believe? Yeah, yeah, hopefully. Um.
- 2:12:09Speaker 1: I was just looking at team stats from last year.
- 2:12:11Speaker 1: The Patriots ended up at fifteenth and total offense in
- 2:12:14Speaker 1: six and points per game, and it stands to reason
- 2:12:17Speaker 1: that after a year of playing together, they'll improve this year.
- 2:12:20Speaker 1: So am I in the minority when I say stay
- 2:12:23Speaker 1: away from receiver and focus on defense, he says in capitals, Yeah,
- 2:12:27Speaker 1: I mean, I still in the minority if you think
- 2:12:29Speaker 1: that they were anywhere near as good as those numbers
- 2:12:31Speaker 1: would indicate. Right, See, that's the problem. You have to
- 2:12:34Speaker 1: look at the Patriots season and the fifty points I
- 2:12:39Speaker 1: finished when they rescued the numbers. You know, you have
- 2:12:41Speaker 1: to look at it. You have to divide into three sections.
- 2:12:43Speaker 1: Early when they were making all the mistakes, then they
- 2:12:45Speaker 1: started feasting on some of the poorer teams, and then
- 2:12:49Speaker 1: they got into the end and they just couldn't compete, right,
- 2:12:51Speaker 1: you know, And you have to look at it that
- 2:12:53Speaker 1: way and say they're further away than their records. Says
- 2:12:56Speaker 1: they are, right, But I'm just talking offensively. They were
- 2:12:59Speaker 1: six and points. They scored fifty plus against the Jets
- 2:13:02Speaker 1: and the Jacket, and that completely skews it into small
- 2:13:05Speaker 1: sample size like a seventeen game season, and they weren't
- 2:13:09Speaker 1: the sixth best offense in football by any metric that
- 2:13:12Speaker 1: you could possibly come up with. I mean it says
- 2:13:15Speaker 1: at all when they allowed twenty five points they lost
- 2:13:18Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, I think you can expand it out too,
- 2:13:21Speaker 1: because it's some games they were amazing and other games
- 2:13:25Speaker 1: they were terrible. And so like when you look at
- 2:13:27Speaker 1: the final that they were average average, but they were
- 2:13:30Speaker 1: amazing against Jacksonville and the Jets and like not just
- 2:13:34Speaker 1: like beating them, but destroy Yeah. Yeah, And then they
- 2:13:37Speaker 1: get into the games at the end of the season
- 2:13:39Speaker 1: that count the most, that are the most important when
- 2:13:41Speaker 1: you need your best football, and that was when they
- 2:13:44Speaker 1: fell on their faces. So I think those numbers are deceiving.
- 2:13:47Speaker 1: I will say I think, you know, as a rookie,
- 2:13:49Speaker 1: I think Mac was an average NFL quarterback. I think
- 2:13:51Speaker 1: that about matches up yet some up some downs. But
- 2:13:54Speaker 1: I think for him to come in and play the
- 2:13:55Speaker 1: way that he did, it's about as much as you
- 2:13:57Speaker 1: can ask from a guy that you get fifty. The
- 2:14:00Speaker 1: thing that killed me about the end of that season is,
- 2:14:04Speaker 1: you know, they couldn't stop the Bills. They just couldn't
- 2:14:07Speaker 1: stop the Bills literally, right, that was just two and
- 2:14:11Speaker 1: then a team that knows them they couldn't beat. When
- 2:14:14Speaker 1: they had to beat a Miami you know that's like,
- 2:14:17Speaker 1: that's just terrible, yea, you know, and that's what I'm saying,
- 2:14:22Speaker 1: that they're further away than ten and seven and making
- 2:14:24Speaker 1: the playoffs, right. But I think the question, though, is
- 2:14:27Speaker 1: that were they really that bad? Because I think they
- 2:14:30Speaker 1: were worse than their talent And I know that we
- 2:14:32Speaker 1: talked a lot about they're not that talented of a team,
- 2:14:35Speaker 1: but I think what we saw at the end spoke
- 2:14:38Speaker 1: more of a team that just wasn't really in it, yeah,
- 2:14:41Speaker 1: and didn't really even play up to the limited talent
- 2:14:44Speaker 1: that they did have. You know, even the guys that
- 2:14:47Speaker 1: that were good previously, that had a lot of success here,
- 2:14:50Speaker 1: those guys weren't making the plays anymore. So you got
- 2:14:53Speaker 1: to find new playmakers. And that's you know, I'm all in.
- 2:14:56Speaker 1: I'm all in. Yep. Um, let's see Andy right saying,
- 2:15:00Speaker 1: great job everybody, especially Fred, who drafted Tamara to the crew,
- 2:15:04Speaker 1: who sorely needed her perspective over the years. I would
- 2:15:08Speaker 1: put Fred's record of picks for the show over Bill
- 2:15:10Speaker 1: Belichick except for Brady and Fred kiss Brady too, So
- 2:15:15Speaker 1: I made that one right, perfect pick. Oh wow, Adam Scheff,
- 2:15:18Speaker 1: I don't know if marriage Adam Schefter report this big
- 2:15:22Speaker 1: Titans trading A J. Brown to the Eagles. Hey, J
- 2:15:27Speaker 1: and Hollywood Brown a potential Patriot I believe just got selected.
- 2:15:34Speaker 1: It's not Jermaine Johnson. Don't worry. It's a differ products,
- 2:15:38Speaker 1: different Johns, local product, Zion Johnson. A lot of people
- 2:15:41Speaker 1: had him as a plug in play. In the twenty
- 2:15:44Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders select John Dudson
- 2:15:51Speaker 1: wide receiver. What is a commander? I don't know. Commanding chief,
- 2:15:57Speaker 1: I'm not what they're commanding. I command you and everybody
- 2:16:00Speaker 1: like kind of annoying you're commanding everyone. It's interesting that
- 2:16:04Speaker 1: all of these trades that we weren't expecting are happening,
- 2:16:08Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield, deebos Amuel are still sitting here. Yeah,
- 2:16:14Speaker 1: although think about Wayne Brown has been on the block. Yeah.
- 2:16:18Speaker 1: And and remember when the Patriots got Randy Moss. That
- 2:16:21Speaker 1: was Day two of the draft. So so they're getting
- 2:16:25Speaker 1: Phillies eighteenth overall pick and another third round pick. Wow.
- 2:16:29Speaker 1: Bill was right, he knew what he was talking about.
- 2:16:32Speaker 1: The Titans are now on the clock. Yep, Okay, what
- 2:16:36Speaker 1: do they need? We're living in the future here on
- 2:16:38Speaker 1: Patriots on filter. I'm getting nervous. Who's on the clock.
- 2:16:42Speaker 1: The Titans. They because they traded with the Eagles, they
- 2:16:46Speaker 1: got this pick. Wait, I know what's confusing. The Chargers.
- 2:16:52Speaker 1: They made their pictures Zion. Yeah what lt okay, yep, yeah,
- 2:17:00Speaker 1: y'all are in the future. Um Jacob writes in UM
- 2:17:05Speaker 1: he's at the UVA School of Medicine. He says, I
- 2:17:08Speaker 1: want to say welcome to Tamara and go hokeis I
- 2:17:11Speaker 1: graduated a couple of years ago. Maybe we had a
- 2:17:14Speaker 1: class together. I'm wondering what she thinks of Amari Barno
- 2:17:17Speaker 1: are ridiculously fast, defensive lineman. I'm a big Barno fan.
- 2:17:21Speaker 1: I actually mentioned him earlier and Paul gave him me
- 2:17:24Speaker 1: a side eye. I don't know who's that side eye
- 2:17:31Speaker 1: this this to the right side the emoji saidee, Yeah,
- 2:17:35Speaker 1: I love that one. I'm a big Barno fan. I
- 2:17:36Speaker 1: think he would be great, but um, I feel like
- 2:17:40Speaker 1: that'd be biased for me to say that, But I
- 2:17:43Speaker 1: think he's great. Probably like a day in the twenty
- 2:17:50Speaker 1: two Jimmy Draft, the Los Angeles Chargers select Zion. Johnson.
- 2:17:56Speaker 1: Garden talks in college. So two guards now little run
- 2:18:02Speaker 1: on guards. Well, definitely that was the guy that terrified everybody. Yeah,
- 2:18:06Speaker 1: pat Patriot fans. Yeah, I thought it was just me. No,
- 2:18:11Speaker 1: what was a caller? Wasn't there a caller just a
- 2:18:12Speaker 1: minute ago? A god? No? If they take a gap fred?
- 2:18:17Speaker 1: What was our writer's name that wrote in which one
- 2:18:21Speaker 1: from Uba slash Virginian tech? Oh, I already heard it,
- 2:18:23Speaker 1: deleted it. Yeah, I still I still go Jermaine Johnson
- 2:18:28Speaker 1: over Barnel. Okay, but M Barnell is going to be
- 2:18:31Speaker 1: a good gut for somebody tomorrow or the next day,
- 2:18:33Speaker 1: all right, Jake writes in another Australian writers from ben Dingo, Australia.
- 2:18:41Speaker 1: He says, I gotta ask what beverages are keeping you
- 2:18:43Speaker 1: lot going this evening? And how are the ordevs water
- 2:18:47Speaker 1: or five hour energy? Is the beverage I took U
- 2:18:50Speaker 1: and the ordevs were um lacking. Um. He's so I
- 2:18:54Speaker 1: rate he didn't get his little media. First of all,
- 2:18:56Speaker 1: they never got here. He did. He did ask specifically
- 2:18:59Speaker 1: for something, they didn't get it. I don't blame I
- 2:19:01Speaker 1: don't blame him. Two weeks ago, that's a guy from
- 2:19:04Speaker 1: up draft, Craig Bieberman look at him with with the
- 2:19:09Speaker 1: glasses down on his nose, just like he's sixty years old.
- 2:19:12Speaker 1: That's calculations, right, Nobody can see. They don't know what
- 2:19:14Speaker 1: you're talking about. That's why I'm describing it. It's radio. Um.
- 2:19:19Speaker 1: You said the thing about Bill sort of predicting it. Yeah,
- 2:19:23Speaker 1: you wonder if you know Tennessee obviously a team that
- 2:19:25Speaker 1: he knows really well with Raves and in John Robinson.
- 2:19:29Speaker 1: I wonder if you knew that trade was coming in
- 2:19:31Speaker 1: all seriousness, could be wouldn't be funny if Rabel traded
- 2:19:36Speaker 1: traded to get his son. He seems like kind of
- 2:19:40Speaker 1: purposely not drafted. He said as much. So he's not
- 2:19:45Speaker 1: interested in that in any way. Yeah, doesn't think that's
- 2:19:47Speaker 1: a good idea for anybody involved. That's a smoke screen.
- 2:19:51Speaker 1: Come on, that's such a Rabel dad thing to be like, absolutely,
- 2:19:55Speaker 1: I've never point out all the bad things about his son,
- 2:19:57Speaker 1: like you know stepanees, like he's weird, he's limature. You know,
- 2:20:01Speaker 1: he's probably an undrafted guy. Again. Anyway, you know you
- 2:20:06Speaker 1: really want that guy on your offensive line. Really, I
- 2:20:08Speaker 1: do love that's him. Max in Mexico City, second time
- 2:20:14Speaker 1: listening to your Draft Show, and thank you for making
- 2:20:16Speaker 1: the draft a much better experience instead of having to
- 2:20:19Speaker 1: listen to Rich Eisen and his team that don't say anything.
- 2:20:23Speaker 1: Also got a philosophy test tomorrow, and your draft show
- 2:20:26Speaker 1: is the only thing keeping me calm and relaxed. I
- 2:20:29Speaker 1: would love to get a receiver or a corner or
- 2:20:31Speaker 1: one of those two great linebackers, Dean or Lloyd, and
- 2:20:34Speaker 1: I think grow can steer Bill to get them with
- 2:20:37Speaker 1: his young approach. I think you're gonna have your pick
- 2:20:40Speaker 1: of these guys. Yeah. Maybe the Cardinals are coming to
- 2:20:43Speaker 1: Mexico City this year, and I notice we have an
- 2:20:45Speaker 1: away game against them. It would be a dream come
- 2:20:48Speaker 1: true come here, and I would love to see us
- 2:20:51Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals in my hometown. I wouldn't get your
- 2:20:54Speaker 1: hopes up. Okay, sorry, all right, Eric, just you know
- 2:20:57Speaker 1: you have to destroy it. He really can't wait to
- 2:21:00Speaker 1: just crush that man's dream. You know, look live in reality.
- 2:21:05Speaker 1: I haven't seen me either. We did play in Mexico City.
- 2:21:08Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. I wish we had
- 2:21:10Speaker 1: more time there. H Parker writes in Good Evening, gentlemen
- 2:21:15Speaker 1: and ladies, for those of us who start paying attention
- 2:21:18Speaker 1: to the draft Patriots on draft night, can one of
- 2:21:20Speaker 1: you break down the current state of affairs and where
- 2:21:23Speaker 1: we are at now, what's the chat and who is tomorrow?
- 2:21:27Speaker 1: We're riding with a five man roster again? This year
- 2:21:29Speaker 1: football is back kind of Tamarrow is she was with
- 2:21:34Speaker 1: us last year, but now this year. Last year she
- 2:21:37Speaker 1: was behind the scenes in the show. This year she's
- 2:21:39Speaker 1: going to be on the show. I mean, you gotta
- 2:21:41Speaker 1: be eased into this madness, right, that's right. She had
- 2:21:43Speaker 1: a red shirt year and now she's ready to play.
- 2:21:46Speaker 1: And technically I got here after the draft happened, that's true. Yeah,
- 2:21:49Speaker 1: you haven't even been here for you a calendar year. Yeah.
- 2:21:52Speaker 1: I got here like a couple of days before training camp.
- 2:21:54Speaker 1: So yeah, So how did he want to recap? I
- 2:21:56Speaker 1: don't know what to say. Like, they have nine picks.
- 2:21:59Speaker 1: They really need a bunch of good players, right, and
- 2:22:01Speaker 1: it's almost time for them to pick. And it's almost time. Yeah,
- 2:22:04Speaker 1: because Tennessee's pick is in and the Saints are on
- 2:22:07Speaker 1: the clock. What are we at eighteen? The eight Well,
- 2:22:09Speaker 1: we're gonna be on nineteen. Just got eighteen, just got picked. Okay,
- 2:22:13Speaker 1: so we're getting close for yet I want to go.
- 2:22:17Speaker 1: I don't want to rain on Tamari's parade. But does
- 2:22:20Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh US put across Kevin Colberg good draft,
- 2:22:28Speaker 1: Paul Right very good draft, and it seems like one
- 2:22:30Speaker 1: of the or or will they go quarterback? I wouldn't,
- 2:22:34Speaker 1: but I would very possible. We gave him Kenny Pickett.
- 2:22:37Speaker 1: We went pit to pit pit. I think he's a
- 2:22:40Speaker 1: good fit there personally. Yeah, go to the hip Trobisky now, yeah,
- 2:22:45Speaker 1: I wouldn't take I wouldn't take it. Jack. Yeah, when
- 2:22:49Speaker 1: was that? Wasn't there recently a draft where there was
- 2:22:50Speaker 1: no quarterback in the first round. It was my member
- 2:22:54Speaker 1: thinking thirteen was the EJ Manual draft that he was
- 2:22:57Speaker 1: the only one. I think he went. Like other E
- 2:22:59Speaker 1: Manual reference here would have put their trips down on
- 2:23:02Speaker 1: that question, I would not have. I would not have.
- 2:23:05Speaker 1: Gerard in Virginia writes in I know I'm an outlier,
- 2:23:09Speaker 1: and I understand why people feel the way they do
- 2:23:11Speaker 1: after the end of the season, but we need an
- 2:23:13Speaker 1: offensive pick. If Bill had a time machine and drafted
- 2:23:16Speaker 1: the eighty five Bears, it wouldn't matter if this offense
- 2:23:20Speaker 1: in this offense oriented league. We have had trouble in
- 2:23:23Speaker 1: the red zone for years now. We need to score
- 2:23:25Speaker 1: more than twenty four points consistently, cobble a defense together.
- 2:23:29Speaker 1: Later we need to score to win. He's right. The
- 2:23:32Speaker 1: Eagles already gave signed Paul Parilla Brown an extension, by
- 2:23:36Speaker 1: the way, four years, one hundred million. That was quick.
- 2:23:42Speaker 1: They had that in the work. Yeah, that was in
- 2:23:44Speaker 1: the works. Hey do you have that power cord anywhere? Close? Over?
- 2:23:48Speaker 1: What do you need? Power? Power? Um, tennessee what you're
- 2:23:56Speaker 1: gonna do. It's gonna do rapes. I think that, you know. Now,
- 2:24:01Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say what. I'm just gonna say because
- 2:24:03Speaker 1: the pictures popped up. Oh so say it's trailing Burks.
- 2:24:05Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think they got I was
- 2:24:08Speaker 1: gonna say, I think they have to look into replacing
- 2:24:10Speaker 1: A J. Brown. Yeah, and they did. Darn all right.
- 2:24:15Speaker 1: Trailing Burke's off the board. All right. I didn't think
- 2:24:20Speaker 1: we'd have a chance at him anyway. Uh, there came close, though.
- 2:24:24Speaker 1: But my hopes for you know, one of those speedy
- 2:24:27Speaker 1: linebackers that's wide open because one of them is going
- 2:24:30Speaker 1: to be available. My dreams are still alive. Yes, one
- 2:24:33Speaker 1: of them is gonna be available? Maybe just um, let's
- 2:24:37Speaker 1: go to the ace ticket out lard, shall we? We
- 2:24:39Speaker 1: have some people holding on. Let's go to sweet kid
- 2:24:43Speaker 1: Melvin in Tennessee. What's up? Melvin was going on? Hey
- 2:24:48Speaker 1: the draft? Hey? I got hey, Um, what's the highest
- 2:24:52Speaker 1: opposition that you think that the Pages could double did for?
- 2:24:56Speaker 1: You think they could double did for a receiver or
- 2:24:58Speaker 1: corner deeping any those positions? What market I think right now?
- 2:25:03Speaker 1: If you're look at higher, I think linebackers. The eighteenth
- 2:25:07Speaker 1: pick to the Tennessee Titans. With the eighteenth pick in
- 2:25:12Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select
- 2:25:17Speaker 1: trailing Burkes Bride receiver Arkansas. All right, sorry about that moment. Yeah,
- 2:25:25Speaker 1: I know you're fine. Yeah. I was just trying to
- 2:25:27Speaker 1: see what position will be out there that you think
- 2:25:29Speaker 1: that'd be fine. Clearly, I think they needs to get
- 2:25:32Speaker 1: some type of get a game plan going with somebody
- 2:25:34Speaker 1: that could at least slow down. Um, Josh Allen, So
- 2:25:40Speaker 1: I don't care. Just funks will get somebody. I really
- 2:25:42Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah, yeah, I mean what do you think?
- 2:25:45Speaker 1: What do you think? No, because you like throwing stuff
- 2:25:47Speaker 1: out there, but you give us what you think. Um,
- 2:25:52Speaker 1: I'm kind of with on the offensive trying right now, Mike,
- 2:25:56Speaker 1: I just said that I really want it will be
- 2:25:59Speaker 1: nice to have receivers. I think even if Harry was good,
- 2:26:03Speaker 1: you still need a receivers. I'm not sure. It's kind
- 2:26:06Speaker 1: of you know, being a couple of years that we're
- 2:26:08Speaker 1: looking at looking at the you know, also stivers go by.
- 2:26:11Speaker 1: I would really like to get a pair of receivers
- 2:26:14Speaker 1: so we can start some more points more than get
- 2:26:16Speaker 1: on the defensive chain. But it really doesn't matter to me.
- 2:26:20Speaker 1: Who knows whatever, I think that we're not gonna do. So,
- 2:26:24Speaker 1: all right, thanks Eric, Yeah right, I don't know what happened.
- 2:26:29Speaker 1: He's off the board, but he was still talking, so
- 2:26:31Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there. It was still delayed. Yeah,
- 2:26:34Speaker 1: I double dip it at corner. I mean, I think
- 2:26:36Speaker 1: it's a big need. You know, Hey, guys, I'm booth.
- 2:26:44Speaker 1: I'm sure her tight end, but she was realistic. She
- 2:26:49Speaker 1: knows that the Patriots aren't gonna take one definitely on
- 2:26:52Speaker 1: day one, and you know there that's one position where
- 2:26:54Speaker 1: they're they're kind of set. So she's thinking offensive blind.
- 2:26:58Speaker 1: But I'm kind of lad that Zion Johnson is gone
- 2:27:02Speaker 1: because there's three defensive players. I'm right with you tomorrow.
- 2:27:06Speaker 1: I really want to Jermaine Johnson, but a couple other
- 2:27:09Speaker 1: defensive players that are still there as Devin Lloyd and
- 2:27:12Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie. So I'm hoping they go with one of
- 2:27:15Speaker 1: those guys and not Jackson. Hill might be the best
- 2:27:17Speaker 1: talent um on the board. Or but we don't really
- 2:27:20Speaker 1: need safety. Okay, yeah, thanks, thanks, Sean, appreciate the time.
- 2:27:24Speaker 1: I agree with Sean. I think they're going to get
- 2:27:25Speaker 1: a good player. Yeah, I agree. I agree with Sean.
- 2:27:28Speaker 1: But now it's like, are they gonna go with Lloyd
- 2:27:30Speaker 1: or are they gonna go with Jermaine Johnson that's tough,
- 2:27:33Speaker 1: or do they go corner? I don't know. I'd love
- 2:27:36Speaker 1: to be a fly on the wall. If still there,
- 2:27:38Speaker 1: I would take McDuffie. Yep. I mean I think he's
- 2:27:43Speaker 1: it's hard to say. With Johnson, I think he's he's
- 2:27:44Speaker 1: a great fit too, But but McDuffie seems like a
- 2:27:47Speaker 1: Patriot guide. I'm gonna put my chips all in on
- 2:27:50Speaker 1: a linebacker. I want either Lloyd or I want Kobe Deane. Yeah, yeah,
- 2:27:55Speaker 1: I want to try some speed. I just want to
- 2:27:58Speaker 1: trust try it, try speed. I'm eric. If McDuffie is there,
- 2:28:05Speaker 1: Tick McDuffie, Okay, don't get out of yourself, Tara. We
- 2:28:08Speaker 1: got two picks to go. I gotta know I want
- 2:28:10Speaker 1: the linebacker. I want the linebacker. So what three of
- 2:28:13Speaker 1: you are going? McDuffie. I'm I'm going with the Kobe
- 2:28:17Speaker 1: Dean okay, yeah, out of between him and Lloyd, I'm
- 2:28:20Speaker 1: going with Dean. Okay. Yeah, I just had a bad feeling.
- 2:28:22Speaker 1: Jimmy and Johnson's gonna go one of these. I wouldn't
- 2:28:26Speaker 1: pick him most of anybody here, But let's go to
- 2:28:29Speaker 1: Wilhelm and Philham. Uh, what's up? One day? Not right? There?
- 2:28:33Speaker 1: You go, Hey William? Nope, what's going on? Hey? The draft.
- 2:28:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep this a permennerous question advised. I'm gonna
- 2:28:41Speaker 1: be to speak clean and nice with it. This is something,
- 2:28:44Speaker 1: you know what. I'm gonna leave it that day. Why
- 2:28:46Speaker 1: moves being made? Okay? Yeah, I'm gonna just waring. Do
- 2:28:51Speaker 1: do y'all believe in Mac Jones? Yes? I mean all
- 2:28:55Speaker 1: the way every last one of you wanted. Do you
- 2:28:56Speaker 1: believe in Matt Jones? I do. What do you mean
- 2:29:03Speaker 1: to believe in them? I'm not gonna tell you what
- 2:29:06Speaker 1: I'm saying to you, Mike. Listen. What I'm saying to
- 2:29:08Speaker 1: you is this, why not go all in for Matt.
- 2:29:11Speaker 1: Let's let's see what Matt going do in this second year.
- 2:29:14Speaker 1: So you're saying, look, let's look at it. Let's look
- 2:29:16Speaker 1: at it. Gentlemen and lady. Okay, look at your look
- 2:29:19Speaker 1: at your receiver corps. There's any of them. Do any
- 2:29:23Speaker 1: of them stand out like this? That's that's your all,
- 2:29:26Speaker 1: that's your how you say wide receiver one you know
- 2:29:29Speaker 1: can do it all to do everything that you want.
- 2:29:32Speaker 1: Ain't none of them explosive? Ain't none? You got like
- 2:29:35Speaker 1: two of them that the injury from actually and one
- 2:29:37Speaker 1: that catches the ball afterwards. You don't get nothing. Answer that.
- 2:29:40Speaker 1: So my question to you, gentlemen and lady, what do
- 2:29:44Speaker 1: you think Bill gonna double dip receiver? As much as
- 2:29:47Speaker 1: y'all saying double dip that corner, which this true, we
- 2:29:49Speaker 1: do need to do. Okay, we just missed out on
- 2:29:52Speaker 1: Jordan David. That's gone okay, So everyone, William, do you
- 2:29:55Speaker 1: agree that there are receivers to be found in the
- 2:29:57Speaker 1: second and third round in this draft, or maybe even fourth.
- 2:30:01Speaker 1: Ye Okay, so let's not give up hope. Yeah, so
- 2:30:04Speaker 1: wait till then. Yeah, not difference makers though I don't.
- 2:30:07Speaker 1: I don't think there's me I'm saying. But but I
- 2:30:12Speaker 1: also don't think see this is this is an interesting
- 2:30:17Speaker 1: The way you pose this, William, I think is interesting.
- 2:30:19Speaker 1: If you're a believer in mac Jones, then I think
- 2:30:22Speaker 1: that you should be in the camp that you don't
- 2:30:23Speaker 1: want like a top ten pick at wide receiver because
- 2:30:26Speaker 1: I believe in the quarterback and he can make other
- 2:30:28Speaker 1: guys better. It's if you're in my camp and you
- 2:30:31Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe in the quarterback that you're looking for
- 2:30:33Speaker 1: weapons for him to help him. Yeah, Like, do you
- 2:30:36Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Yeah, I get it. I don't
- 2:30:39Speaker 1: mean to come off guys. Hey, hey listening? It ring it? Yeah,
- 2:30:46Speaker 1: But we I think we've been consistent through this whole process.
- 2:30:49Speaker 1: We want a receiver on Day two and double dip
- 2:30:52Speaker 1: absolutely on receiver. I didn't mean to like disclude that,
- 2:30:55Speaker 1: dis include that from what we should double I'm all.
- 2:30:58Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm with you, but but you're not
- 2:31:01Speaker 1: gonna get Randy Moss. I'm not surprised they didn't take
- 2:31:04Speaker 1: a receiver or drafted up for a receiver in the
- 2:31:05Speaker 1: first I'm not surprised, and I don't think that that
- 2:31:08Speaker 1: that's necessarily ruining the draft for me. That's true that
- 2:31:12Speaker 1: I agree Mike with you, and until your your new
- 2:31:14Speaker 1: co worker, Ideo, Um, I know you are. I'm sorry nationally, Yeah,
- 2:31:23Speaker 1: I do need you, Kobe to produce more in the
- 2:31:25Speaker 1: red zone. In the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the
- 2:31:30Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints select Trevor Penny tackle. Huh, well, he
- 2:31:38Speaker 1: was he was another you know possibility. I think out
- 2:31:41Speaker 1: there of of ye tackle long term need all comes
- 2:31:45Speaker 1: down to the Steelers here, though, nasty if if they don't.
- 2:31:48Speaker 1: I don't know m Johnson that everybody's everybody's guy is available.
- 2:31:52Speaker 1: I had a bad feeling. He seems like, so we're
- 2:31:54Speaker 1: we're a pickaway, We're a pickaway. But I think they're
- 2:31:57Speaker 1: they're in good shape because I think there's two guys
- 2:32:01Speaker 1: left that I don't think people thought would be available
- 2:32:04Speaker 1: at this point and McDuffie and Johnson. Yeah yeah, maybe
- 2:32:09Speaker 1: maybe Pittsburgh takes McDuffie. That would that would disappoint me.
- 2:32:13Speaker 1: I'm thinking Jermaine Johnson. That is a Pittsburgh Steeler named linebacker.
- 2:32:18Speaker 1: I'm sorry, why are you trying to get under I'm not,
- 2:32:20Speaker 1: but I just can't corner. They're not they're not. They're
- 2:32:24Speaker 1: going on corner Jermaine Johnson from Oh Yeah, that's them
- 2:32:32Speaker 1: go quarterback danger Malik Willis could you imagine at not?
- 2:32:41Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't you imagine? Is like, hey,
- 2:32:44Speaker 1: we're way ahead though, I mean, this is let's go luh.
- 2:32:49Speaker 1: Let's see who is this? Googan from London? Great draft
- 2:32:52Speaker 1: show so far. To marry is a refreshing addition to
- 2:32:55Speaker 1: the show. Let's keep this energy going for one Bill
- 2:32:58Speaker 1: inevitably trades out of the first round. I may have
- 2:33:02Speaker 1: missed this, but wasn't Big Head going to join the
- 2:33:05Speaker 1: show tonight? No, no, we listen, Paul put out the
- 2:33:08Speaker 1: invitor was an invite and he was busy doing his
- 2:33:10Speaker 1: own show. For big Head says, oh, I'll call in
- 2:33:13Speaker 1: for twenty minutes. I said, no, thanks, he had his
- 2:33:16Speaker 1: own show for five I don't I don't care, don't
- 2:33:18Speaker 1: disrespect the show call in for twenty minutes. Well, the
- 2:33:21Speaker 1: media is not really allowed here, so yeah, thank we
- 2:33:25Speaker 1: could we could get him in, could we? Sure? Of course? Record?
- 2:33:28Speaker 1: Well fancy works for ei? Oh Sully what Sully? Fancy? What? Really? Really?
- 2:33:40Speaker 1: Oh my god, Kevin Colbert, what are you doing over there?
- 2:33:44Speaker 1: What a horrific pick? What are you doing? But but
- 2:33:47Speaker 1: one that was nailed by us, another one nailed it.
- 2:33:51Speaker 1: We're hot, We're on the clock, people, we are on
- 2:33:56Speaker 1: I'm shocked. But good for them. Wow, so they took picking.
- 2:34:00Speaker 1: Wow that's a good fit. Yeah, wow, right there, it's
- 2:34:05Speaker 1: gonna take his two glos two gloves? So was that everything?
- 2:34:11Speaker 1: Was that a reaction like we don't have big band anymore,
- 2:34:14Speaker 1: we gotta get a quarterback. This is the conversation did
- 2:34:19Speaker 1: this year? Just did they just take Bridge because they had? Yeah?
- 2:34:24Speaker 1: I mean I think that was the conversation me and
- 2:34:26Speaker 1: Paul had over fourteen seconds when we're like, yeah for
- 2:34:29Speaker 1: fourteen but really, that's really diminishing your mock draft joke.
- 2:34:33Speaker 1: I joke, I joke, I like to do that. But
- 2:34:36Speaker 1: I mean, that's the connection makes sense. You kind of
- 2:34:38Speaker 1: like m It's like, well, he's already in the building,
- 2:34:40Speaker 1: why don't we just like he plays his college games here.
- 2:34:43Speaker 1: Let's just say I don't know he is retiring, So yeah,
- 2:34:47Speaker 1: going out with a whimper. Well, well, everybody's everybody's choice
- 2:34:52Speaker 1: is available, yehuffy everybody Johnson, So is this official? Okay?
- 2:34:59Speaker 1: So Kenny pick Kenny Pickett to the Steelers. I would
- 2:35:03Speaker 1: take McDuffie. I'm I'm going with the Kobe Dean. Okay,
- 2:35:08Speaker 1: what do you say, Paul, No, I'm talking about what
- 2:35:12Speaker 1: do you say? What do you What do you got?
- 2:35:16Speaker 1: I got I got a thousand, I got a thousand, large,
- 2:35:20Speaker 1: thousand and the Kobe Dean. I don't know if that's large.
- 2:35:24Speaker 1: That's fake. It's not real money. No, okay, NFL, if
- 2:35:29Speaker 1: you're listening, it's not real money. You're right. Chips, Yeah,
- 2:35:34Speaker 1: not real chips, nothing, nothing real. You're the one that
- 2:35:37Speaker 1: picked Las Vegas to have the drafted. Let's listen to.
- 2:35:44Speaker 1: Patriots are on Patriots around the clock. Oh my god.
- 2:35:48Speaker 1: Um Connor writes in from Boston. Do you think there's
- 2:35:51Speaker 1: a chance that Belichick knew the A. J. Brown trade
- 2:35:55Speaker 1: was coming? Because the Patriots kicked the tires. But Tennessee
- 2:35:58Speaker 1: told them they were gonna going with Philly because of
- 2:36:01Speaker 1: the higher pick fifty seven million guaranteed. I would have
- 2:36:05Speaker 1: done that for for Brown in a heartbeat. Yeah, I
- 2:36:08Speaker 1: don't think the Patriots were interested because of that. Hoping
- 2:36:11Speaker 1: for Devin Lloyd if he's available at twenty one day
- 2:36:14Speaker 1: one starter who fills a need. It is one of
- 2:36:16Speaker 1: the two best players at his position in the draft.
- 2:36:19Speaker 1: Who is this Devin Lloyd? Yeah, now Devin Lloyd is Yeah.
- 2:36:25Speaker 1: I think the best linebacker isn't he? I mean inside linebacker.
- 2:36:29Speaker 1: I went back and forth between those two, but I
- 2:36:33Speaker 1: probably they're very similar kind of players. If you watch
- 2:36:36Speaker 1: them play, they both play with a kind of a
- 2:36:37Speaker 1: similar style. The size separates them a little bit, and
- 2:36:41Speaker 1: you know, Lloyd's ability to play a little bit off
- 2:36:44Speaker 1: the edge as a pass rusher. I think that helps
- 2:36:46Speaker 1: his cause a little bit as the Patriots. But I
- 2:36:48Speaker 1: just think there's something special about Nakobe Deane and the
- 2:36:51Speaker 1: way he plays and the way he reads our pos
- 2:36:55Speaker 1: and he just has the ability to kind of see
- 2:36:57Speaker 1: through the nonsense and get to the ball. And I
- 2:36:59Speaker 1: think that's what you're talking about. It is that's it.
- 2:37:02Speaker 1: You need playmakers. You need guys who can watch Josh
- 2:37:05Speaker 1: Allen and do his little thing and get after him
- 2:37:07Speaker 1: and take them down and right and I don't know
- 2:37:09Speaker 1: if they have that guy right now on the roster,
- 2:37:11Speaker 1: even though they do have a bunch of unproven linebackers,
- 2:37:14Speaker 1: you know, whether they're unproven here or or yeah, or
- 2:37:17Speaker 1: generally unproven. But yep, Travis writes them from West Virginia. Tamara, Um,
- 2:37:22Speaker 1: you guys make this so much fun. Thank you, she's from.
- 2:37:28Speaker 1: I thought you went to West No, she went to
- 2:37:31Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. That's actually closed. No, that's a that's a
- 2:37:34Speaker 1: thing for Fred that that's a good thing for you.
- 2:37:35Speaker 1: He's starting to get that's true. Yeah. Uh, he says,
- 2:37:43Speaker 1: I want Devin. Devin Bush and Devin White were recent
- 2:37:46Speaker 1: great hold on, we already know that. Yeah, it's gonna
- 2:37:50Speaker 1: drown me out anyway, Frank o' harris making the point,
- 2:37:54Speaker 1: Yeah we know this one all right. Um, he wants
- 2:37:56Speaker 1: Devin um because he likes the name and has a
- 2:38:00Speaker 1: good vibe about linebackers named Devon. Note I'm horrible at
- 2:38:03Speaker 1: draft scouting. I predicted that Michael Sam would be a
- 2:38:06Speaker 1: great pass rusher in the NFL, so so so much
- 2:38:10Speaker 1: for that. But he's he's all in on on Devin Lloyd.
- 2:38:14Speaker 1: So yeah, that'd be a good joke. I mean, I mean,
- 2:38:19Speaker 1: I mean, all the players that we like are available,
- 2:38:23Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna be disappointed. I'd be fine with
- 2:38:25Speaker 1: any of those four. Yeah, Dean and Lloyd Ye Johnson McDuffie, yep.
- 2:38:32Speaker 1: Um Mike from UM Saddlebrook, New Jersey, UM now in Winchester, Virginia.
- 2:38:40Speaker 1: So between a lot of Virginia and Virginia. Right. Yeah,
- 2:38:43Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, he says Mack in
- 2:38:46Speaker 1: New England's first for Jimmy g and Debo. Wow, uh,
- 2:38:52Speaker 1: Devo is still around despite all trade rumors, Bill, like Jimmy,
- 2:38:55Speaker 1: by all accounts, had wanted him to replace Tom. He's
- 2:38:58Speaker 1: probably more ready to win now than Mac, seeing is
- 2:39:00Speaker 1: how he's been in the leagues the longer, and we
- 2:39:02Speaker 1: know Bill wanted to win now because he doesn't have
- 2:39:05Speaker 1: a lot of time left. Forty nine ers also want
- 2:39:08Speaker 1: to get rid of Jimmy. Not sure if I would
- 2:39:09Speaker 1: do it, but just thought of the trade while driving
- 2:39:12Speaker 1: home and wanted to workshop a workshop at work. Who says, no,
- 2:39:17Speaker 1: who wins the trade? Thoughts Wow, I just oh, you
- 2:39:23Speaker 1: gotta take him. No, I have bad news. It's none
- 2:39:26Speaker 1: of them. No, who's the next one? Yeah, I figured
- 2:39:29Speaker 1: it was coming. I figured it was coming to trading
- 2:39:32Speaker 1: down strikes again. Patriots are trading the pick. Disappointing, really, everybody, Wow,
- 2:39:37Speaker 1: they found a partner, They found a partner. All these people,
- 2:39:41Speaker 1: all right, we'll see it tomorrow. Take Jemmy Johns. Maybe
- 2:39:46Speaker 1: you know, let's they could still be in the first round.
- 2:39:50Speaker 1: That's true, right, right, but you know, the league, you know,
- 2:39:54Speaker 1: And I didn't want to give away anything, but the
- 2:39:56Speaker 1: league send out a very very strongly worded letter last
- 2:40:00Speaker 1: night to all like club presidents and all that stuff,
- 2:40:03Speaker 1: which I got to see strongly saying, do not tip
- 2:40:07Speaker 1: any picks. You will be fine. Blah blah blah blah blah.
- 2:40:10Speaker 1: Well then someone's gonna be getting fine because the people
- 2:40:13Speaker 1: have been tipping picks all night. Well they're not work,
- 2:40:16Speaker 1: they don't work for a team. But if you don't
- 2:40:18Speaker 1: want tips pick, stay with it. I mean, don't delay
- 2:40:21Speaker 1: them like twenty minutes on TV. Because this is like
- 2:40:24Speaker 1: every single national guy he's got the picks right. It's
- 2:40:27Speaker 1: not like one guy has got them right. Like they're
- 2:40:30Speaker 1: all right telling you who the picks are. And it's
- 2:40:33Speaker 1: a variety of different guys, right, And it's like the
- 2:40:35Speaker 1: general rules we use of like, well, did rap sheet
- 2:40:37Speaker 1: do it? Did chefter do? It's like the band dudes
- 2:40:40Speaker 1: stay with it so that there's not a lot of
- 2:40:42Speaker 1: time too leak to pick you know. Yeah, one other
- 2:40:45Speaker 1: point I just was thinking about. I mean, the wide
- 2:40:48Speaker 1: receiver thing was crazy this spring, but like I just
- 2:40:51Speaker 1: I can't get over now that they're like first round
- 2:40:53Speaker 1: trade bait now, like we're getting into the draft Day one,
- 2:40:55Speaker 1: we're during the draft. Now they're moving the receiver and
- 2:40:59Speaker 1: giving them a contract right away. Like I just I
- 2:41:01Speaker 1: the explosion of receivers, of contracts of all of it.
- 2:41:05Speaker 1: It's just got the trade is with the Chiefs. So
- 2:41:08Speaker 1: they different that they'll still be in the first round
- 2:41:11Speaker 1: okay hopefully twenty nine. Yeah, which which one did it? Yeah?
- 2:41:15Speaker 1: They have doesn't say, but they have two picks at
- 2:41:18Speaker 1: the bottom of the round. So did they pick up
- 2:41:20Speaker 1: a second or a third? That would be really I'm
- 2:41:22Speaker 1: sure that would really make me happy. I'm sure they did.
- 2:41:25Speaker 1: According to the ticker on NFL Network, it's twenty nine.
- 2:41:28Speaker 1: Twenty nine okay, okay, okay, Well that's that's kind of
- 2:41:33Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. Who is that Matin?
- 2:41:38Speaker 1: Matt Lapin down in the boot, was the voice from above. Yeah,
- 2:41:41Speaker 1: we have Matt Morrel mats and we have Matt. You
- 2:41:45Speaker 1: don't know what they got? Yeah, and how do you
- 2:41:47Speaker 1: like that? I like now here it is from if
- 2:41:50Speaker 1: you're gonna move down? Wow? Wow? Okay, hold on, what
- 2:41:53Speaker 1: do we got? Twenty nine, ninety four and one twenty one?
- 2:41:56Speaker 1: They got three picks twenty nine? Yeah, so they're not
- 2:42:01Speaker 1: in the second round. I don't love it. Yeah, basically,
- 2:42:04Speaker 1: I mean ninety four is a comp pick, right, No,
- 2:42:09Speaker 1: it's not. No, it's it's the bottom of the third round.
- 2:42:13Speaker 1: And what was the other one? One h one? Yeah? Yeah,
- 2:42:20Speaker 1: Well I don't love it. My choices probably went out
- 2:42:23Speaker 1: the window. But well, you never know. I mean, we
- 2:42:26Speaker 1: still get a pick here. I do think the double
- 2:42:28Speaker 1: dip question that came up earlier it might come in
- 2:42:31Speaker 1: a play now for for wide receiver. Yeah yeah, Well
- 2:42:35Speaker 1: we answer the question about do they want a lot
- 2:42:37Speaker 1: of picks in a mediocre draft? Apparently? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 2:42:40Speaker 1: Now it was ninety four a third rounder, yes, yeah, yeah,
- 2:42:46Speaker 1: And what's one twenty one? Fourth round? Four? Well, it's
- 2:42:50Speaker 1: gonna be busy they tomorrow. So we still have a
- 2:42:52Speaker 1: first We have an extra third and a fourth. Now
- 2:42:56Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not going crazy about this
- 2:43:00Speaker 1: how many? But you're you're talking about it in a
- 2:43:03Speaker 1: good way. I'm not like, oh, this is terrible. No,
- 2:43:06Speaker 1: it's not. How many spots do we have on Let's
- 2:43:09Speaker 1: see who they end up at twenty nine? Trent mcdufferie
- 2:43:12Speaker 1: goes to Kansas City. There you go, Um, David Wisconsin,
- 2:43:19Speaker 1: says Fred. No matter who the Patriots pick, could you say,
- 2:43:22Speaker 1: and there it is? I will I'll make sure that
- 2:43:24Speaker 1: I do. Yeah. Um, no, let's see who the Patriots
- 2:43:30Speaker 1: end up with at twenty nine before we say, oh
- 2:43:33Speaker 1: that was terrible, you know, yeah, I guess it's the
- 2:43:37Speaker 1: hard parties. You have to recalibrate now because it was
- 2:43:39Speaker 1: coming down to a bunch of players that you all
- 2:43:43Speaker 1: thought we're gonna be there and now, all right, who's
- 2:43:46Speaker 1: gonna go in the next eight and they could still
- 2:43:49Speaker 1: get one of those guys? Do you like to get
- 2:43:50Speaker 1: picked up more picks if that's what you like? Right? So,
- 2:43:53Speaker 1: I just I don't have any real interest in right,
- 2:43:57Speaker 1: you know, the hundredth pick, one hundred and twentieth pick,
- 2:44:00Speaker 1: don't do anything for me, all right, Okay, you know
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- 2:44:07Speaker 1: they got around that area. All right, let's take a break. Okay,
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- 2:51:26Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome to
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- 2:51:36Speaker 1: We had a little bit longer of a break there
- 2:51:38Speaker 1: because we had to switch tables. Our poker table got
- 2:51:41Speaker 1: taken away because the draft parties wrapped up pretty much
- 2:51:45Speaker 1: and we really lost. The Patriots traded in and they're
- 2:51:48Speaker 1: like getting that table away, trading the table too. It's
- 2:51:51Speaker 1: the party over. No, no, because they still have a
- 2:51:53Speaker 1: first round pick. There's still some passionate fans over there
- 2:51:56Speaker 1: just waiting there. I don't why did they take all
- 2:51:58Speaker 1: the tables away? I don't know. Anyway, we got another table.
- 2:52:01Speaker 1: We're back. Um where are we? Um picked? Yeah? Green
- 2:52:06Speaker 1: Bay took quay Walker and uh yeah, def trum mcfe
- 2:52:11Speaker 1: quite Quay and uh, now Buffalo appears has traded up. Uh,
- 2:52:15Speaker 1: perhaps I guess with Baltimore. Now that would be Baltimore.
- 2:52:18Speaker 1: So Baltimore flipped the pick from Arizona and apparently now
- 2:52:24Speaker 1: our enemies, the Bills, are on the clock. Okay, what
- 2:52:28Speaker 1: do you would think they might take? Whoever? The Patriot? Now?
- 2:52:32Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of speculation they might take
- 2:52:34Speaker 1: a running back. Breece Hall was was a name that
- 2:52:36Speaker 1: was kind of popping up lately. But I mean, I
- 2:52:39Speaker 1: don't I don't think any of these running backs are
- 2:52:41Speaker 1: really that intriguing the first round. And do they want
- 2:52:43Speaker 1: to be that team? I mean, they didn't really seem
- 2:52:46Speaker 1: all that interested in being a running team, but I
- 2:52:49Speaker 1: would seem a little bit outside of character I would
- 2:52:53Speaker 1: expect maybe maybe defense. You know what about Booth Booth?
- 2:53:00Speaker 1: Yea who did green bata Quay? Quick? So what do
- 2:53:04Speaker 1: we got? We got Deans available? Did Jermaine Johnson get
- 2:53:07Speaker 1: picked yet? Ye? Not yet? Yeah? Um, we got Coloftus
- 2:53:11Speaker 1: is still available, Devin Lloyd still available? Um DeVante Wyatt
- 2:53:17Speaker 1: defensive tackle out of Georgia. And what do we think
- 2:53:21Speaker 1: of him? Yeah? We talked a little about him earlier. Um,
- 2:53:24Speaker 1: I think he's a really good player. I just think
- 2:53:26Speaker 1: he's a lot like Barmore, and I think they like
- 2:53:28Speaker 1: to have a balance of guys, and I think the
- 2:53:30Speaker 1: Patriots more of a big two gapper type guy to
- 2:53:34Speaker 1: put next to next to barn More rather than you know,
- 2:53:37Speaker 1: two interior penetrators. But I think the argument could be
- 2:53:40Speaker 1: made that, like you've been saying, guys that can get
- 2:53:42Speaker 1: to the ball and make plays. I think that's what
- 2:53:43Speaker 1: quay Walker is. I'm sorry, getting my Georgia guys all
- 2:53:47Speaker 1: mixed up. DeVante Wyatt, yeah, I think that's what he is.
- 2:53:50Speaker 1: Booth we mentioned is available. What's this boy maffe from Minnesota. Yeah,
- 2:53:56Speaker 1: he's another another good one outside linebacker type guy, um athletic,
- 2:54:02Speaker 1: and he's he's somebody that's been kind of connected to
- 2:54:05Speaker 1: the Patriots here and there by. Yeah, various mock drafters
- 2:54:08Speaker 1: in the know. And then we mentioned Kayer elam Uh
- 2:54:11Speaker 1: he's still out there. Kyler really likes the trade. What's that?
- 2:54:17Speaker 1: What happened? He's I'm reading tweets. This is a really
- 2:54:22Speaker 1: deep draft, So I really like the trade draft, said
- 2:54:26Speaker 1: nobody who follows this draft at all. Except for one guy,
- 2:54:30Speaker 1: uh Kyla Gordon, the cornerback out of Washington, is still
- 2:54:33Speaker 1: out there. So you know there's there's still hope here
- 2:54:38Speaker 1: for some help on defense. Even picks in the worst
- 2:54:43Speaker 1: draft in a decade double dipping? Is it really the
- 2:54:47Speaker 1: worst chot than it just slowly gets worse and worse again.
- 2:54:52Speaker 1: I always preface these things by saying I don't analyze
- 2:54:56Speaker 1: this stuff. I just read the people who do. And
- 2:55:00Speaker 1: that's the first I've heard. It's not widely considered to
- 2:55:02Speaker 1: be a really weak draft by who the draft experts.
- 2:55:09Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're right. Yeah, it doesn't mean they're right.
- 2:55:12Speaker 1: I just thought I thought the first round was weak.
- 2:55:15Speaker 1: I mean, the first round this week, and the draft
- 2:55:17Speaker 1: is weak. The best players in the draft aren't good, No,
- 2:55:21Speaker 1: but but but the other guys can be as good
- 2:55:24Speaker 1: as third rounders, fourth rounders in other drafts. You know
- 2:55:27Speaker 1: what I'm saying. There's not a lot of top and talent,
- 2:55:32Speaker 1: but there's you know, when you get to those later rounds,
- 2:55:35Speaker 1: it's equitable to other drafts. I don't know. I'm not
- 2:55:39Speaker 1: sure how that works, right, because if the best players
- 2:55:42Speaker 1: aren't as good as previous years, and those players that
- 2:55:46Speaker 1: you're saying are are are as good as previous years.
- 2:55:49Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they go higher? Well, they are, that's what
- 2:55:53Speaker 1: that's that's the point. Those kind of guys are going
- 2:55:56Speaker 1: in the first round in this draft because there's not
- 2:55:58Speaker 1: a lot of high any talents, so they would have
- 2:56:00Speaker 1: and fourth rounders in other drafts, the second rounders. You know,
- 2:56:04Speaker 1: it's not that bad. Come on, it's not over. But
- 2:56:07Speaker 1: I was going by I was just using your example. Yeah, no,
- 2:56:10Speaker 1: I I it's possible that the high end talent isn't
- 2:56:13Speaker 1: as good this year, but there's still plenty of depth.
- 2:56:17Speaker 1: You know. Well, I mean our drafts always defined by
- 2:56:21Speaker 1: how good the first round is. Is Is that they're defined
- 2:56:23Speaker 1: by the talent. Well, that's what I mean. And I
- 2:56:25Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of talent in this trash
- 2:56:27Speaker 1: is right, that's where the talent is. So it's that's
- 2:56:31Speaker 1: but trash. I mean everything I saw, I didn't see.
- 2:56:34Speaker 1: This is the worst trade, I said the best. What
- 2:56:36Speaker 1: I read was the best place to be is like
- 2:56:38Speaker 1: twenty to forty. That was that's what I read. I
- 2:56:41Speaker 1: don't you know, that's what I don't analyze the draft,
- 2:56:43Speaker 1: And that's where the Patriots are. That's where they that's
- 2:56:46Speaker 1: where they started. They're at twenty nine, right, so they're
- 2:56:49Speaker 1: moving lower. Okay, but why because they want worse players?
- 2:56:54Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I don't think they're I
- 2:56:56Speaker 1: don't think that this is a bad trade because I
- 2:56:58Speaker 1: don't think they're a good player. I think it's a
- 2:57:00Speaker 1: great trade. I think it's a really good trade. I
- 2:57:02Speaker 1: think it's a great trade considering my people are still
- 2:57:05Speaker 1: a very absolutely, I'm gonna reserve judgment until I see
- 2:57:07Speaker 1: who they select, and I'll tell you, I'm gonna reserve
- 2:57:10Speaker 1: judgment until I see if whoever they select can play.
- 2:57:14Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna just deem it a good pick
- 2:57:15Speaker 1: because the Patriots made it. Okay, I'm gonna wait and
- 2:57:18Speaker 1: see if the guy can play. I know, but by tomorrow.
- 2:57:20Speaker 1: You know, that's the way this whole draft thing works,
- 2:57:24Speaker 1: is at on the day that they pick, you'd say, oh,
- 2:57:26Speaker 1: I like the bool. I would have liked Trent McDuffie.
- 2:57:29Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest need and I think
- 2:57:31Speaker 1: that was a good player. Okay, Well he's not available
- 2:57:34Speaker 1: right because they traded, So I don't like the trade,
- 2:57:36Speaker 1: all right, So you would have picked you would have Stu.
- 2:57:39Speaker 1: I mean I said it before the trade happened. You
- 2:57:41Speaker 1: asked me who I would pick. Yeah, McDuffie was my answer.
- 2:57:43Speaker 1: I think that was Eric's answer too. Yeah, correct. All right,
- 2:57:46Speaker 1: Well we know Eric doesn't like this. I mean Eric
- 2:57:49Speaker 1: has you know, he's tapped out. No, but especially in
- 2:57:53Speaker 1: a draft. That is why they considered to be mediocre.
- 2:57:57Speaker 1: Like you're you're collecting a bunch of mid round mediocre picks.
- 2:58:02Speaker 1: Well that's fine, I mean, I just yeah, it's hard
- 2:58:04Speaker 1: to get excited about mostly late round picks. Yeah, they're
- 2:58:08Speaker 1: not even mostly mid round, right, I mean, I just
- 2:58:11Speaker 1: think this speaks to I didn't think anybody that was
- 2:58:14Speaker 1: there is a Pound the Table guy. I wasn't pound
- 2:58:15Speaker 1: the table for McDuffie. Would I liked him shut, But
- 2:58:18Speaker 1: I like Jermaine Johnson shirt none of those guys that
- 2:58:20Speaker 1: I feel like this is I would agree with that
- 2:58:22Speaker 1: there was no Pound the Table guys. But I just
- 2:58:24Speaker 1: don't understand being happy about getting a guy that's ostensibly worse. Well,
- 2:58:30Speaker 1: I'm gonna reserve. I'm not happy about trading down. I'm
- 2:58:33Speaker 1: gonna wait and see him. I'm disappointed, like I wanted
- 2:58:35Speaker 1: to see it one of those talented players go. But
- 2:58:38Speaker 1: let's see who they get. I mean, what if they
- 2:58:39Speaker 1: get Jermaine Johnson at twenty eight and we were all
- 2:58:41Speaker 1: gonna be kind of and you were gonna be happy
- 2:58:43Speaker 1: with him at twenty one. I was fine with that.
- 2:58:45Speaker 1: But McDuffie is the guy that I wanted McDuffie to
- 2:58:48Speaker 1: me filled the need. Yeah, like if if they end
- 2:58:51Speaker 1: up with the Kobe Dean, I'm gonna be like great,
- 2:58:53Speaker 1: I wanted him at twenty one. I think m Kobe
- 2:58:56Speaker 1: Deane's going to be available. I think those guys interesting.
- 2:58:59Speaker 1: Quay Walker, I mean that was I thought a smoke
- 2:59:01Speaker 1: stream but he went I wasn't. I didn't love him. Yeah,
- 2:59:04Speaker 1: I think that you can have those guys. They're gonna
- 2:59:06Speaker 1: be available. Good, I'll take him. But like, but but
- 2:59:09Speaker 1: it's not like a steel is my point. I think
- 2:59:12Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, by all accounts, was not going to be available.
- 2:59:16Speaker 1: Jamaine Johnson. I would say, yeah, they can get Jamaine Johnson.
- 2:59:18Speaker 1: I'd be happy with that because I don't think he
- 2:59:20Speaker 1: was expected to be available at this point. Now those
- 2:59:23Speaker 1: are the two guys. The other guys this is I mean,
- 2:59:26Speaker 1: they're supposed to go in the twenties or the or
- 2:59:28Speaker 1: the second round. Yeah, wow, we'll see for four more
- 2:59:32Speaker 1: picks or maybe more, we don't know. So as Dallas
- 2:59:35Speaker 1: on the clock now, yes, yep, yeah, oh you know
- 2:59:38Speaker 1: they're gonna get their guy. Oh they always do do
- 2:59:41Speaker 1: we have always do well a little uh live look
- 2:59:44Speaker 1: from the from the war room for days. Well we
- 2:59:46Speaker 1: should probably comment on kyre Elam going to the dint
- 2:59:50Speaker 1: know a long, a long corner. I don't love him.
- 2:59:56Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I think idea of him more
- 3:00:00Speaker 1: than I liked him the reality of books, the part,
- 3:00:03Speaker 1: and you can talk yourself into him being well on
- 3:00:06Speaker 1: the level of Stingley and Sauce because he's got the
- 3:00:09Speaker 1: size and he can play like that. But he was inconsistent.
- 3:00:12Speaker 1: So White when healthy is their number one, right, Trey
- 3:00:15Speaker 1: Davious White. Yeah, so you got this kid to either
- 3:00:18Speaker 1: push him or maybe be a solid number two to him.
- 3:00:21Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's not a well I mean I
- 3:00:23Speaker 1: think he goes back to all the receivers in the
- 3:00:25Speaker 1: AFC East. I mean is oh they're they're there. They
- 3:00:28Speaker 1: seem to have an eye to that they traded up.
- 3:00:31Speaker 1: I mean after McDuffie went, they probably had a feeling
- 3:00:33Speaker 1: this could be a run on the booths, you know,
- 3:00:38Speaker 1: sacks to get up there. Uh so what does Dallas do?
- 3:00:43Speaker 1: I mean, just Michael Parsons last year was great pick awesome.
- 3:00:49Speaker 1: How do they how do they build off of that?
- 3:00:51Speaker 1: What do they give Dak they try to give him?
- 3:00:54Speaker 1: I mean they love their offensive line there, they've made
- 3:00:57Speaker 1: their pick. Okay, I'm surprised we're not getting to look
- 3:01:00Speaker 1: into the Dallas war room. Yeah, they're just popping champagne.
- 3:01:05Speaker 1: What do you think? I think they're gonna take um
- 3:01:09Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean have him and Parsons? What do you think
- 3:01:14Speaker 1: fred Tyler Smith? Tyler Smith is that who they took? Oh? Boy,
- 3:01:20Speaker 1: so he's an offensive tackle from Tulsa. Okay, I mean
- 3:01:27Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith is getting old? He is, you know, yeah,
- 3:01:31Speaker 1: so Tyler funny. But we um, I think we mocked
- 3:01:38Speaker 1: a tackle to them. We got the position right, Penning
- 3:01:42Speaker 1: He's not available so that we would have been right.
- 3:01:44Speaker 1: There's another one. It's like the win. It's like the
- 3:01:49Speaker 1: games the Patriots didn't play that they want correct, right,
- 3:01:53Speaker 1: talk to Gerard Mayo today, because Matt and I did
- 3:01:56Speaker 1: a Pats from the Past podcast, and I joked with
- 3:02:00Speaker 1: him about, you know, the naming of the games, and
- 3:02:04Speaker 1: he was talking. I said, you know, like some of
- 3:02:06Speaker 1: the toughest games, and he's like the game we played
- 3:02:08Speaker 1: a game in Cleveland and Peyton Hillis ran all over.
- 3:02:11Speaker 1: I go, yo, yeah, that's the Peyton hillis game, right,
- 3:02:13Speaker 1: and he was like, yes, what I was talking about that?
- 3:02:17Speaker 1: And the other thing I didn't remember from that game
- 3:02:19Speaker 1: is Gronk not going down, just go down. And then
- 3:02:22Speaker 1: they eventually stripped the ball from him on like the
- 3:02:24Speaker 1: five yard line. Yeah, Gustowski Tourist squad on a kickoff.
- 3:02:28Speaker 1: It was a terrible was that was everything went wrong
- 3:02:30Speaker 1: with Eric Mangini jumping around. They didn't have it that thing.
- 3:02:34Speaker 1: Day Ball was the offensive coordinator, right, he was very excited.
- 3:02:37Speaker 1: He was he was, he was, he was doing the
- 3:02:40Speaker 1: Josh all right, Tyler Smith. They won like two games
- 3:02:46Speaker 1: that year or something. So Devin Lloyd, Jermaine Johnson, George
- 3:02:50Speaker 1: carloftis Dax Hill Booth and we're on the uh what
- 3:02:57Speaker 1: number are we on? Twenty five? Now? Twenty fifth pick? Yeah? Yeah,
- 3:03:03Speaker 1: so okay, Patriots at twenty nine. We'll see what happens,
- 3:03:07Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to Baltimore. Yes, yep, I
- 3:03:11Speaker 1: hate when they picked. They always take guys I like
- 3:03:13Speaker 1: rog from Saint Louis, writes in web radio at Patriots
- 3:03:16Speaker 1: dot com. Welcome Tamara. It's refreshing having a college football insight.
- 3:03:20Speaker 1: A couple of observations. My girlfriend, who's a Titans fan,
- 3:03:24Speaker 1: is the most distraught I've seen her in years. Why
- 3:03:27Speaker 1: is that? I don't know they got rid of them.
- 3:03:30Speaker 1: We need more fashioned insight from Fred and Eric. Please.
- 3:03:34Speaker 1: The Jets and Giants have had really solid drafts. To
- 3:03:37Speaker 1: be fair and tomorrow Tamara has sold me on Johnson
- 3:03:40Speaker 1: and I'm still really high. And McDuffie your Dean. Well
- 3:03:43Speaker 1: McDuffie's gone, but Dean is still there and so is Johnson.
- 3:03:47Speaker 1: Oh he is, Yeah who took him? Still he's still available?
- 3:03:53Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. He would make me feel better.
- 3:03:56Speaker 1: I will. I'm gonna tell you that ahead of time.
- 3:03:58Speaker 1: I don't like to do it afterwards. If they end
- 3:04:00Speaker 1: up with with Jermaine Johnson at twenty nine, I'd feel
- 3:04:03Speaker 1: better about that trade. Okay, yeah, I mean Lloyd Johnson, Booth, Dean,
- 3:04:11Speaker 1: those are those are players who still scratch the itch.
- 3:04:14Speaker 1: Chris with a T I A n uh writes in
- 3:04:18Speaker 1: at this point, no pick tonight. I'm so confident Bill
- 3:04:21Speaker 1: trades twenty nine that I bet the crew all lunch
- 3:04:23Speaker 1: if he stays and picks lunches on me. Oh too
- 3:04:26Speaker 1: many picks. All right, well we'll take that. I need
- 3:04:30Speaker 1: you to keep that just in case. We'll remember it's
- 3:04:34Speaker 1: christ Christian. Christian is a long time Christian, and it's food.
- 3:04:39Speaker 1: I get the tap from Eric May on his page.
- 3:04:43Speaker 1: I didn't want to just jump in and interrupt, just
- 3:04:44Speaker 1: tell me move. Maybe they will make some trades up
- 3:04:48Speaker 1: with you know, the seventeen sixth round play. Oh yeah,
- 3:04:51Speaker 1: thanks so yeah, like in day day two and day three. Please,
- 3:04:56Speaker 1: I think we have eleven picks right now and the
- 3:05:00Speaker 1: and they'll use everyone. Yeah, So as it stands right now,
- 3:05:05Speaker 1: called rich from the bullpen twenty nine tonight three tomorrow,
- 3:05:09Speaker 1: which I like, But I mean eighty five and ninety four,
- 3:05:12Speaker 1: which I'd love to get up into that high second round.
- 3:05:14Speaker 1: I think that's where I'd like to strike. Guy like Watson. Uh.
- 3:05:20Speaker 1: David wants to know any chance the Patriots take Linderbaum
- 3:05:23Speaker 1: out of Iowa with the Forens connection. Could he could
- 3:05:26Speaker 1: he play guard then switch to center when Andrews retires.
- 3:05:31Speaker 1: Everything I've seen is he's primarily just a center. But
- 3:05:35Speaker 1: he's a good center, very good. I mean he's probably
- 3:05:37Speaker 1: a plug and play. Can never have enough centers. I
- 3:05:40Speaker 1: wish David Andrews was still sign what they say, if
- 3:05:44Speaker 1: you have two centers, you don't have one center away
- 3:05:48Speaker 1: from a super Bowl Because I said, no team ever anywhere.
- 3:05:52Speaker 1: Maybe an NBA team, I don't know, spin Fresno. I
- 3:05:56Speaker 1: think the Patriots might double dip on trading down in
- 3:05:59Speaker 1: the first round. The Christian the picks are multiplying like tribles.
- 3:06:03Speaker 1: They've done that before, haven't they. They traded down twice
- 3:06:05Speaker 1: trek reference. Ye, thanks Fred, because I had no idea
- 3:06:09Speaker 1: what that man. Yeah, not everyone does. And I'm not
- 3:06:11Speaker 1: talking to you, Oh I was. I was actually given
- 3:06:14Speaker 1: you actually credit for explaining that to me. Oh oh,
- 3:06:19Speaker 1: I said, I didn't know that because usually you're sarcastic
- 3:06:21Speaker 1: when you say things. No no, no, no no no no.
- 3:06:24Speaker 1: We're getting testy here. Yeah, it's getting late down. This
- 3:06:28Speaker 1: is what happened. This is what happens. We're down to
- 3:06:30Speaker 1: just brownies and start eating them. They took our poker
- 3:06:34Speaker 1: table away. You know, fantastic. H Chris writes in UM
- 3:06:39Speaker 1: from the South Coast in UK. I've stayed up until
- 3:06:43Speaker 1: three thirty am and five coffees in, all the talents
- 3:06:46Speaker 1: still on the board and we trade back. Oh well,
- 3:06:49Speaker 1: who needs to be functional at work tomorrow. I'm hoping
- 3:06:52Speaker 1: to be wrong, but I think Dean, Johnson and Lloyd
- 3:06:55Speaker 1: would all be long gone by twenty nine. Maybe maybe not.
- 3:06:59Speaker 1: Here's an interesting one. Uh, Cowboys new offensive tackle Tyler
- 3:07:03Speaker 1: Smith overcame Blounts disease growing up, Garrett Lunch disease. Sorry,
- 3:07:09Speaker 1: I had to, I had to. I had to blunt it.
- 3:07:11Speaker 1: We're probably making fun of some like disease that's like
- 3:07:14Speaker 1: really bad, you know, it's funny. Way to go, dude.
- 3:07:16Speaker 1: I have no idea what that disease is, but my
- 3:07:18Speaker 1: my first reaction was, does that mean you run into
- 3:07:20Speaker 1: the lineman every once in a while you pick up
- 3:07:26Speaker 1: thirty five? Right? Right? If you could get best the
- 3:07:29Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, you'll get like twenty plus, But get
- 3:07:31Speaker 1: them in the backfield going out a bad person. That's funny,
- 3:07:35Speaker 1: all right. Baltimore still on the clock. Baltimore three minutes
- 3:07:38Speaker 1: to go entertaining some trade talk as Virginia. Please, Well
- 3:07:44Speaker 1: now they're now they're huffing and puffing out. Now we're
- 3:07:46Speaker 1: gonna take that. Now, we're gonna take every single second. Jerks.
- 3:07:51Speaker 1: They do draft players that I like though. Usually here's
- 3:07:54Speaker 1: your your linder bomb. They need offensive lineman, right, oh, Baltimore,
- 3:07:58Speaker 1: they're taking linder bomb. No oh, I'm just saying they
- 3:08:01Speaker 1: need offensive linemen. Yeah. Eric posed that as a possibility.
- 3:08:06Speaker 1: Maybe Travis Jones from Yukon. He's another kind of big
- 3:08:10Speaker 1: interior guy, like they like, oh can you can you
- 3:08:14Speaker 1: read because they're their draft. There's their draft right in
- 3:08:18Speaker 1: the back there. Geez. I don't know if that's just
- 3:08:22Speaker 1: uh blogony, but it's like it's written in sans. It's
- 3:08:25Speaker 1: one of those Chuck Lori uh yeah, post strip cards.
- 3:08:29Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, vanity cards. We called them. What's that right?
- 3:08:33Speaker 1: He had it in his contract. He gets there. You
- 3:08:34Speaker 1: ever watching them The two and a half Man, he's
- 3:08:36Speaker 1: like a one frame he pops up. He would get
- 3:08:38Speaker 1: to write whatever he wanted on a whole oh yeah,
- 3:08:41Speaker 1: Chuck Lori Productions thing, and they're always like random vanity frames.
- 3:08:44Speaker 1: It's his Vanity played. Wow, Andy and Sioux City is
- 3:08:48Speaker 1: with Paul. He says, my wife just left the room.
- 3:08:51Speaker 1: Every year it's the same thing, trade down to pick
- 3:08:54Speaker 1: some more mediocre players. Just disappointed again, like last year.
- 3:09:03Speaker 1: They didn't trade down last year. No, I know, that's
- 3:09:06Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He says. Every year it's the same thing.
- 3:09:10Speaker 1: That's that's his point. Okay, no one else trades down,
- 3:09:12Speaker 1: just the Patriots. It's on a lot of trades. Hey, Mike,
- 3:09:18Speaker 1: in the Belichick era, who's made the most trades at
- 3:09:20Speaker 1: the draft? I don't know. Up end down. I can
- 3:09:23Speaker 1: tell you forced fumbles though down Now you're a bad um.
- 3:09:30Speaker 1: Let's see. Tom Curran retweeted Seth Walder, who says Patriots
- 3:09:35Speaker 1: get the best of chiefs. By our av based chart,
- 3:09:38Speaker 1: gained the equivalent of pick number sixty three in surf
- 3:09:42Speaker 1: plus value winning chess chess checkers. Yeah there you go.
- 3:09:48Speaker 1: See won the draft. Yeah. I don't really care about
- 3:09:51Speaker 1: the value with the trade. I want to see who
- 3:09:53Speaker 1: they pick, right, That's why I will reserve. If it
- 3:09:55Speaker 1: is Jamaine Johnson, I say they win the trade. Another
- 3:10:00Speaker 1: Ginia emailer, what is going on? We have? We have
- 3:10:04Speaker 1: runs on like Australia, Australia, Virginia, just not the International
- 3:10:09Speaker 1: Space Station. Maybe Stephanie sent it to all of her
- 3:10:12Speaker 1: friends in Australia and it couldn't been. It could be.
- 3:10:15Speaker 1: Charles from Virginia says, no real feedback on the trade,
- 3:10:18Speaker 1: but that was one of the more classic pee exchanges.
- 3:10:21Speaker 1: Pagris trade down Fred while everyone is still disappointed in
- 3:10:24Speaker 1: our processing. I kind of like it, Paul, but you
- 3:10:28Speaker 1: don't even know what they got. You did say you
- 3:10:30Speaker 1: liked it. You didn't know what you Tyler m Maybe
- 3:10:39Speaker 1: knew something there. Back to back Tyler's offensive lineman. Oh
- 3:10:45Speaker 1: they should go for up next. There's a run on
- 3:10:48Speaker 1: Tyler offensive lineman and Tennessee's on the bulletin. Now that
- 3:10:50Speaker 1: would be a reach so many Tylers. Yeah, he might
- 3:10:53Speaker 1: not get drafted. Yeah, let's see what have we got?
- 3:11:00Speaker 1: Athan in Monterey, Mexico. He says, Since Paul keeps complaining,
- 3:11:05Speaker 1: don't keep complaining. I complained about one, he says. You
- 3:11:08Speaker 1: keep doing you, Paul. I figured I write in and
- 3:11:10Speaker 1: analysis that I've read a few times and I think
- 3:11:13Speaker 1: has something to it. Since quite a few players opted
- 3:11:15Speaker 1: out of the draft last year due to COVID this
- 3:11:18Speaker 1: draft has inflated depth, especially in the middle rounds. This
- 3:11:22Speaker 1: also implies that players usually drafted in round six or
- 3:11:25Speaker 1: seven could easily go undrafted. What do you guys think
- 3:11:30Speaker 1: about that? Apart from Paul, we know his answer. I
- 3:11:33Speaker 1: think there's some truth to that. I talked about it
- 3:11:35Speaker 1: earlier in the show. There was that that stat that
- 3:11:38Speaker 1: I said about Jim Naggi. He said that they evaluated
- 3:11:41Speaker 1: over seven hundred guys for the Senior Bowl, which is
- 3:11:43Speaker 1: almost twice as many as they normally. Right, so there's
- 3:11:45Speaker 1: more depth. Well, another trade yet, but not more talent. Yeah,
- 3:11:50Speaker 1: that's that's the point there, not talent. So the Jets
- 3:11:54Speaker 1: traded into that spot. I don't like it, but it
- 3:11:58Speaker 1: feels like the Jets are going like, we gotta make
- 3:12:00Speaker 1: our team this year. Sam and Marilyn says, um, hey
- 3:12:05Speaker 1: guys and Eric and Tamara loving the show so far.
- 3:12:08Speaker 1: Paul that Blounts disease remark was hysterical. Love listening to
- 3:12:12Speaker 1: the show. Even if we aren't picking on Q, it
- 3:12:16Speaker 1: seems like we've kind of caught up a little bit. Yeah,
- 3:12:18Speaker 1: we're back to that twelve fifty time for Patriots making
- 3:12:21Speaker 1: a pick. We just passed one. We just passed it up.
- 3:12:27Speaker 1: And there he goes Jermaine to the Jets. Wow, trade
- 3:12:37Speaker 1: it up to get him? All right, Well, I'm sorry
- 3:12:44Speaker 1: Paul and Tamara. Okay, well, okay, to be fair, of
- 3:12:47Speaker 1: my other stack of chips was for Andrew Booth. Okay, Well,
- 3:12:52Speaker 1: so the Jets got Sauce and Garrett Wilson and Jamaine Johns.
- 3:12:56Speaker 1: I mean that's a pretty good It's a three first round.
- 3:12:58Speaker 1: This is I mean, the Jets are back in it.
- 3:13:01Speaker 1: I mean just as far as we've had those I'm
- 3:13:03Speaker 1: not saying officially, but they've got some pieces. They picked
- 3:13:07Speaker 1: some players that were supposed to be picked in the
- 3:13:08Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, yep. I wonder what they gave up though,
- 3:13:11Speaker 1: because I don't they didn't have another another first I mean,
- 3:13:14Speaker 1: it seems like they're dipping into next year's future. Yes,
- 3:13:17Speaker 1: we'll get to the seventh round and the only team
- 3:13:19Speaker 1: with picks will be the Patriots. Right the whole round? Yes,
- 3:13:22Speaker 1: they were thirty five. Yeah, they have maybe thirty five
- 3:13:26Speaker 1: and thirty eight. Oh here it is right now, thirty
- 3:13:29Speaker 1: five sixty arms. Some interesting things. Lamar Jackson just twee
- 3:13:32Speaker 1: did WTF? What does that mean, I don't know you
- 3:13:37Speaker 1: trade it because they just trade it out and they
- 3:13:39Speaker 1: traded Hollywood too. Yeah, that's true, that's it. What's the
- 3:13:42Speaker 1: other ones? Thirty five and what? Uh? Sorry they were
- 3:13:46Speaker 1: flashing on sixty nine. All right, No, no, I'm serious.
- 3:13:52Speaker 1: Thirty five, sixty nine, one sixty three. Um Isaac says,
- 3:13:56Speaker 1: I'm disappointed on our trade down, just a general feeling.
- 3:13:59Speaker 1: I get it. Before the draft everyone said we didn't
- 3:14:02Speaker 1: have enough picks and should look into ways to get more.
- 3:14:05Speaker 1: They did, and we went after them. I feel we
- 3:14:08Speaker 1: sometimes are overcritical of the decisions. Wanted a wide receiver,
- 3:14:12Speaker 1: but that didn't happen. I don't ever recall saying they
- 3:14:14Speaker 1: didn't have enough picks heading into this draft. He's not
- 3:14:18Speaker 1: talking to you, But who said that. I don't know.
- 3:14:20Speaker 1: People did. But they still could get a wide receiver.
- 3:14:24Speaker 1: They're just not get one of the top ones, you know.
- 3:14:26Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think they can still get
- 3:14:28Speaker 1: a good player in a few picks, but there's still
- 3:14:31Speaker 1: a big gap to the next pick in the second round.
- 3:14:34Speaker 1: I'd love to maybe package two of those picks tomorrow,
- 3:14:39Speaker 1: get up into the early second round, fill that gap
- 3:14:42Speaker 1: and get one of these leftover guys. I think that
- 3:14:46Speaker 1: to me, then you have some picks to move around
- 3:14:48Speaker 1: a little bit more than you did, especially tomorrow, because
- 3:14:51Speaker 1: you had a bunch of picks. Put a lot of
- 3:14:53Speaker 1: six three six rounders a seventh round. I mean, that's
- 3:14:56Speaker 1: that's not really gonna do much on day two. I
- 3:14:58Speaker 1: mean maybe you throw them in to sweeten upot a
- 3:15:01Speaker 1: little bit. But I do think tomorrow you've got enough
- 3:15:04Speaker 1: to go up if they wait, though I don't know
- 3:15:08Speaker 1: you've got we got three picks tomorrow at this point,
- 3:15:12Speaker 1: right fifty five? Yeah, yeah, so love it. Um, let's
- 3:15:20Speaker 1: see Dan and Hawaii says with all with all due respect,
- 3:15:24Speaker 1: I disagree with Eric and Paul on their disappointment with
- 3:15:27Speaker 1: the Patriots trading down eight spots. The Patriots need corners
- 3:15:31Speaker 1: and edge rusher at tackle, a wide out, sidelines to
- 3:15:34Speaker 1: sideline linebacker. At the end of the day, the Patriots
- 3:15:38Speaker 1: will pick the best of those positions available at twenty
- 3:15:40Speaker 1: nine and then move up in round two. My guest
- 3:15:43Speaker 1: is Devin Lloyd. In my opinion, he is more instinctive
- 3:15:46Speaker 1: than Dean, and I doubt Johnson will be there while
- 3:15:49Speaker 1: you're right so, and I hope you're right about moving
- 3:15:53Speaker 1: up in round two. Oh, here's the Jets. The Tennessee
- 3:15:58Speaker 1: Titans have traded the twenty six pick to the New
- 3:16:02Speaker 1: York Jets. We're the twenty six pick in the twenty
- 3:16:07Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft. The New York Jets select Jermaine Johnson,
- 3:16:13Speaker 1: linebacker Florida State. Wow. Why Jets fans in Vegas? Yeah? Yeah,
- 3:16:20Speaker 1: the I don't. I don't hate this. Uh wow, the soup.
- 3:16:27Speaker 1: The Jets fan just gave the double birds. Yeah, he
- 3:16:30Speaker 1: just gave the double bird to the TV. He doesn't
- 3:16:33Speaker 1: like the pickin it was a Jets fan. No, he's
- 3:16:37Speaker 1: shaking his head walking away too, pissed. Oh he was
- 3:16:40Speaker 1: he but he was looking at the TV when he
- 3:16:43Speaker 1: did it. It's one of the crew guys, right, Yeah,
- 3:16:46Speaker 1: I think he's pissed that they didn't get Jermaine Johnson.
- 3:16:48Speaker 1: Oh I don't want me. Why would a Jets fan
- 3:16:50Speaker 1: be Where can't Jelight stadium? I don't don't you think
- 3:16:54Speaker 1: that would be odd? It could be either way that
- 3:16:57Speaker 1: he but in your defense, that was odd. But why
- 3:16:59Speaker 1: was the team? The whole thing was on, right, I
- 3:17:02Speaker 1: don't hate the trade. Just to be clear, I'm just
- 3:17:05Speaker 1: not as disappointing because you're losing the tattle talent. You're
- 3:17:08Speaker 1: going down the talent, right. And I thought there were
- 3:17:10Speaker 1: two guys. There were two guys that I really liked,
- 3:17:13Speaker 1: and they were available at twenty one, and now they
- 3:17:16Speaker 1: don't get them. That's all. But I don't I don't hate.
- 3:17:20Speaker 1: I don't think this is a great draft. I like
- 3:17:22Speaker 1: you made a great point Mike earlier when you said
- 3:17:24Speaker 1: there wasn't a pound the table guy. Yeah, there wasn't.
- 3:17:27Speaker 1: That wasn't pounded the table for Jamine Johnson or for
- 3:17:29Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie. I thought both of those guys made sense.
- 3:17:32Speaker 1: I thought they both filled needs, especially McDuffie. I'm not
- 3:17:36Speaker 1: as high on Booth as I am McDuffie, so I
- 3:17:37Speaker 1: fanned up with Booth. That's not the same thing to me.
- 3:17:41Speaker 1: Tampa Bay traded with Jacksonville, so the Jags are now
- 3:17:44Speaker 1: in the twenty seventh spot. Bill Bill really was on
- 3:17:48Speaker 1: this moment thing, huh. I pray for anybody who's got
- 3:17:51Speaker 1: to go through and makes sense of all of this
- 3:17:53Speaker 1: trades and what it all means. And I'm glad we
- 3:17:55Speaker 1: just focused on one team. How about three years from
- 3:17:58Speaker 1: now and they say, well the pick that they Yeah,
- 3:18:04Speaker 1: my mind is is I can barely process one Patriots
- 3:18:07Speaker 1: trade and maybe one one player Tristan from Austin, Texas. Oh,
- 3:18:12Speaker 1: first round trade by the Patriots. Prepare for all the
- 3:18:15Speaker 1: angry fans to pretend NFL general manager calls and emails.
- 3:18:19Speaker 1: I trust the team. So here's what I like. Here's
- 3:18:23Speaker 1: what I like about those and I'm gonna use you guys.
- 3:18:27Speaker 1: When the Jets just trade it up. Everybody was disappointed
- 3:18:29Speaker 1: that the Jets trade it up? Why who's everyone's everybody? Oh,
- 3:18:33Speaker 1: Mike you were? Oh was I was? I? Well, just
- 3:18:38Speaker 1: that they're getting they're getting another first round player, right?
- 3:18:40Speaker 1: So you know you trade it up and got a
- 3:18:42Speaker 1: good player, right, So why is it bad if you
- 3:18:46Speaker 1: get disappointed that you trade down and lose a chance
- 3:18:48Speaker 1: to get a good player. You know you don't have
- 3:18:50Speaker 1: to convince me. No, I'm not directing specifically. Again, I don't.
- 3:18:55Speaker 1: I don't hate this trade. It's to me, it's a
- 3:18:57Speaker 1: nothing burger. But I thought that they had a chance
- 3:19:00Speaker 1: to get a player that really could have helped them.
- 3:19:02Speaker 1: I'm trying to make that's but that's not the player
- 3:19:05Speaker 1: I want. That's the player I want. Um, I want
- 3:19:07Speaker 1: to be We got people on the second hot line
- 3:19:11Speaker 1: who want to chime in, So let's go to uh
- 3:19:14Speaker 1: Johnny in Wisconsin. What's up Johnny? Hey? How's it going everyone? Hey,
- 3:19:19Speaker 1: thanks for holding on. Go from Metal. I welcome to
- 3:19:22Speaker 1: some error. By the way, it's been nice to hear
- 3:19:23Speaker 1: your voice, so I just welcome to you as well
- 3:19:25Speaker 1: to the group. So, um, yeah, I like to trade.
- 3:19:29Speaker 1: I think kind of what Mike was talking about with
- 3:19:31Speaker 1: the potential at least the potential of them moving up
- 3:19:34Speaker 1: into the second round tomorrow, you know, higher up with
- 3:19:36Speaker 1: some of the later picks they have, and I and
- 3:19:38Speaker 1: I'm fine with it because I think what's been talked
- 3:19:40Speaker 1: about is, you know, the draft isn't great, but there
- 3:19:42Speaker 1: is some, um, you know, there is decent pieces to
- 3:19:45Speaker 1: be had, maybe in the late first, second, third rounds
- 3:19:47Speaker 1: that could be intriguing, right, Um, So you know, as
- 3:19:50Speaker 1: long as you move up, maybe grab one of those
- 3:19:52Speaker 1: better pieces that are available, maybe one of the wide receivers. Um,
- 3:19:55Speaker 1: you know, you take tomorrow with the pick, you know
- 3:19:57Speaker 1: you may be trade up to get use the pick
- 3:19:59Speaker 1: you have tonight get a linebacker or something like that.
- 3:20:01Speaker 1: Then the trade doesn't look too bad, I don't think.
- 3:20:03Speaker 1: But it is kind of concerning, you know, because univer
- 3:20:06Speaker 1: like them trading back you always get you know, it's difficult, Bill,
- 3:20:09Speaker 1: But I don't I don't mind it tonight, I'm watching it.
- 3:20:12Speaker 1: I don't thinkin so, well, you're level headed. Yeah, I
- 3:20:15Speaker 1: mean if if they trade up into the second round,
- 3:20:18Speaker 1: I'll share your enthusiasm. Yeah, I'm not sure they have
- 3:20:20Speaker 1: a lot of ammunition to do that, but I don't.
- 3:20:23Speaker 1: I certainly have a lot of picks. But yeah, well
- 3:20:25Speaker 1: you know, three six round picks into the second round.
- 3:20:27Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm with you. So, I mean they picked
- 3:20:30Speaker 1: up tonight, was it one oh one one one, twenty
- 3:20:36Speaker 1: one yea and ninety four ye Like, I suppose you
- 3:20:42Speaker 1: could get into the second round with that, but that's
- 3:20:46Speaker 1: not that's not not high in the second round. Probably, Oh,
- 3:20:48Speaker 1: you're giving up your second round pick as well, right,
- 3:20:51Speaker 1: aren't you doing that? You don't have to, No, you
- 3:20:53Speaker 1: don't have to, but no, you want to get it,
- 3:20:54Speaker 1: you want to get additional second round but no, but
- 3:20:57Speaker 1: if you just want to move up in the second round,
- 3:20:59Speaker 1: you could give up your existing second round and you
- 3:21:02Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, second. Yeah, but that's not getting it.
- 3:21:06Speaker 1: That's not adding a second round pick. That's not adding
- 3:21:08Speaker 1: that's not that's we said just moving up. We didn't
- 3:21:11Speaker 1: say add we said move up in this Okay. I
- 3:21:13Speaker 1: thought I thought he said move into the second round.
- 3:21:15Speaker 1: Oh no, I thought he said and I would and
- 3:21:16Speaker 1: I would be excited about that. Yeah, if they moved
- 3:21:19Speaker 1: up into the second using uh started to start interject.
- 3:21:21Speaker 1: I just want to stay real quick, and then I'll
- 3:21:23Speaker 1: hop off like Fred's been using, you know, maybe next
- 3:21:25Speaker 1: year's draft capital. Maybe maybe you know, like because we
- 3:21:28Speaker 1: have a higher you know, um cast base next year,
- 3:21:31Speaker 1: maybe use from the next year's capital. If you really
- 3:21:33Speaker 1: feel implied too to move up, I should really like
- 3:21:35Speaker 1: a guy tomorrow. Yeah. Thanks guys, all right, thanks thanks, Yeah,
- 3:21:40Speaker 1: Jacks made their pick. Yeah, and I would like to
- 3:21:42Speaker 1: get into the second round with you know, I would
- 3:21:45Speaker 1: take you know, trade twenty one in whatever you know
- 3:21:48Speaker 1: in the in the third round, in the number ninety
- 3:21:51Speaker 1: four overall pick, if that's what it took to get
- 3:21:54Speaker 1: another second I would rather have a second round pick
- 3:21:56Speaker 1: than two thirds. Yeah, I mean that's but I mean
- 3:21:58Speaker 1: everybody is telling me that's this is where all the
- 3:22:00Speaker 1: players are thirty to ninety. All right, well let's see
- 3:22:02Speaker 1: what John and La says. What's up, John, I feel
- 3:22:07Speaker 1: completely fine about this trade, um, but I understand why
- 3:22:12Speaker 1: people are calling in because so many times we do
- 3:22:13Speaker 1: this trade where were trade back and then we have
- 3:22:15Speaker 1: more picks and we you know, don't do great. But
- 3:22:19Speaker 1: I'm hoping that what it is this year is that
- 3:22:21Speaker 1: indeed the depth of the draft is in the second
- 3:22:24Speaker 1: and third rounds, and so we combine that idea with
- 3:22:29Speaker 1: the solid work we did last year. So like, if
- 3:22:32Speaker 1: that can work this year, great, But I understand why
- 3:22:34Speaker 1: people are are nervous. Eric, you're always nervous about trading
- 3:22:39Speaker 1: down because you don't want to write more profile. Well
- 3:22:42Speaker 1: that's I'm not going to deny that, but you know, honestly, no,
- 3:22:46Speaker 1: but honestly, that's that's a little tongue in cheek, but
- 3:22:48Speaker 1: I know I really do feel strongly about you know,
- 3:22:52Speaker 1: your better chance of getting talent is at the upper
- 3:22:55Speaker 1: end of the draft, not the lower end. Well, of course,
- 3:22:57Speaker 1: so that's why that's why I don't like trading down.
- 3:23:00Speaker 1: Just philosophically, I just I'm opposed to it that you're
- 3:23:03Speaker 1: automatically beginning over. Yeah, I just think right, obviously they
- 3:23:08Speaker 1: they didn't love Trent McDuffie and Booth or the linebackers
- 3:23:13Speaker 1: enough to take them there. And I think, Dave, I mean,
- 3:23:16Speaker 1: I hope they're right not to have, right, I don't
- 3:23:19Speaker 1: want to see Trent McDuffie making Pro Bowls for the
- 3:23:21Speaker 1: Chiefs when that's who Paul wanted us to take. Because
- 3:23:24Speaker 1: Paul and Andy were always right about draft, we would
- 3:23:27Speaker 1: have some certain receivers and that's not I mean, don't
- 3:23:30Speaker 1: don't be like that. I mean no, no, I'm not kidding.
- 3:23:33Speaker 1: None of us. None of us knows who these guys
- 3:23:35Speaker 1: are going to be for sure beforehand. And I've been
- 3:23:38Speaker 1: wrong about a million of these picks things too, And
- 3:23:42Speaker 1: I'll be there. I'll be the first to admit it,
- 3:23:44Speaker 1: unlike everybody else that just automatically assumes the Patriots made
- 3:23:47Speaker 1: the move and it's the right one. I'll admit when
- 3:23:50Speaker 1: it's wrong after the fact. Yeah, that's what happens when
- 3:23:54Speaker 1: the guy doesn't. When Vernon Golston doesn't live up to
- 3:23:56Speaker 1: the billing, I say he sucked right, he was as
- 3:24:00Speaker 1: I missed on that. Ye. Sure, what does it? What
- 3:24:03Speaker 1: does it make you guys think like when I say it,
- 3:24:04Speaker 1: Win doesn't live up to the building. I don't say
- 3:24:06Speaker 1: his ceiling, his floor is a Pro Bowl guard. I
- 3:24:10Speaker 1: said that on the day. I didn't wait, I didn't wait.
- 3:24:13Speaker 1: I said that on draft day. I think that's that's
- 3:24:16Speaker 1: like similar to Lamar Jackson when he was in this period.
- 3:24:19Speaker 1: Everyone was like, see he should have gone as wide receiver,
- 3:24:22Speaker 1: not as quarterback. Like he's never gonna make it in
- 3:24:24Speaker 1: the league. And I'll look at him right MT. Yeah, yep,
- 3:24:28Speaker 1: all right, John. I appreciate the call and the support. Um,
- 3:24:32Speaker 1: Jamie is in Omaha. What's up, Jamie? Heyres a gun guys, Hey,
- 3:24:37Speaker 1: hey hey. So my thought on the trade down is
- 3:24:43Speaker 1: this is a head of your back. There are so
- 3:24:47Speaker 1: many unknown players. Because there are so many players, you
- 3:24:50Speaker 1: have to take as many flyers as you came because
- 3:24:53Speaker 1: there's no sure best in this draft. I mean the
- 3:24:55Speaker 1: number one the number one pickle and sure in this
- 3:24:58Speaker 1: draft at this playing time. So I mean having more
- 3:25:01Speaker 1: options and also being able to trade up. I'm still
- 3:25:04Speaker 1: hoping for that, but the second round, I think that
- 3:25:07Speaker 1: it's helpful because, like you know, like you're saying, there's
- 3:25:11Speaker 1: no there's nobody that anybody was like, we have to
- 3:25:13Speaker 1: have this guy. It's just man, I really hope we
- 3:25:16Speaker 1: get that guy because he's about the best in this draft.
- 3:25:20Speaker 1: All right, Well, Devin Lloyd just went to the Jaguars.
- 3:25:22Speaker 1: So that's a guy. Thanks, Jamie, appreciate the call. Yeah,
- 3:25:27Speaker 1: so Lloyd and Trayvon Walker to the Jags. We'll see
- 3:25:31Speaker 1: what about Dean what they do? He's still out there? Yeah, yeah, Deaner, Deaner.
- 3:25:36Speaker 1: They already have diner Quinn order. So where are we
- 3:25:44Speaker 1: we are at? Actually, the Green Bay pick is already in.
- 3:25:48Speaker 1: We're on the clock, the clock, okay, Patriots on the
- 3:25:52Speaker 1: Oh my god, and probably on the phone because you know,
- 3:25:59Speaker 1: if is a guy they liked, Yeah, they went, it's
- 3:26:02Speaker 1: like all we moved down again. Then they'll do the
- 3:26:04Speaker 1: pull the Baltimore and say we'll fine, we won't make
- 3:26:06Speaker 1: a pick. Then we'll take this one too. It's already in. Yeah.
- 3:26:10Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they're gonna trade down this time.
- 3:26:12Speaker 1: You don't think so? You think they'll make the pick?
- 3:26:15Speaker 1: What do you got? What you got? What do you Yeah? Yeah, no, no,
- 3:26:20Speaker 1: but they're but I think I know what you I
- 3:26:22Speaker 1: know what you're I know what you're grinning about. Oh yeah,
- 3:26:25Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't know, I don't know, I know,
- 3:26:27Speaker 1: I know, I know, I don't know who. I don't
- 3:26:28Speaker 1: know who, but they are they are gonna. Okay, that's confident.
- 3:26:35Speaker 1: Get ready. Devin Lloyd, the first linebacker off board, goes
- 3:26:40Speaker 1: to Jack second second second, Quay walk right, Yeah, you went.
- 3:26:45Speaker 1: It's always a moment of truth when they take somebody.
- 3:26:47Speaker 1: It's like, is it someone I completely just missed? Ignored
- 3:26:52Speaker 1: as it somebody that was on you know, just always interesting.
- 3:26:56Speaker 1: They spend all these months like trying to figure it out,
- 3:26:58Speaker 1: trying to crack the code, and then all of a sudden,
- 3:27:00Speaker 1: you get Dexton Hill. I just don't this is uncanny.
- 3:27:06Speaker 1: George from Virginia. Wow, is it just the same person
- 3:27:09Speaker 1: just saying that from Virginia? Figured I chime in with
- 3:27:12Speaker 1: the rest of the Virginia funny. Um. Pretty disappointed the
- 3:27:16Speaker 1: Patriots traded down. Can't say I'm shocked, though, I've been
- 3:27:19Speaker 1: talking about that happening all week. I like the Patriots
- 3:27:22Speaker 1: to pick Dean. I feel like they could use the
- 3:27:25Speaker 1: skills on the field. Love the show. The Draft show
- 3:27:27Speaker 1: last year was when I became in every episode. Listener,
- 3:27:31Speaker 1: you'll take it easy and have a good night. Well,
- 3:27:33Speaker 1: thank you, George. Very hot in Virginia right now. It's
- 3:27:38Speaker 1: unbelievable uncanny. Um David writes in where is He From?
- 3:27:44Speaker 1: Doesn't say? Eric does not like it when you don't
- 3:27:48Speaker 1: say where you're from. Yeah, you're not the only person
- 3:27:51Speaker 1: with your name in the whole world, So say where
- 3:27:52Speaker 1: you're from. Wherever he's wherever he's from. He says, it's
- 3:27:58Speaker 1: twenty eight degrees. Is that Celsius or Farrenhet? Yeah? Oh Celsius.
- 3:28:02Speaker 1: What does that mean? It means it would be eighty
- 3:28:04Speaker 1: two degrees if it were Celsius. Not only does he
- 3:28:07Speaker 1: know the world clock, he knows Celsius to fahrenheit. Most
- 3:28:11Speaker 1: of the world uses that. He says, I'm with Paul,
- 3:28:14Speaker 1: I don't see much value beyond the third round. Yes, friend,
- 3:28:16Speaker 1: I know Bill has a history of finding the likes
- 3:28:18Speaker 1: of Brady Edelman, et cetera. Questions Does the Patriots draft
- 3:28:22Speaker 1: strategy have anything to do with cap space in twenty
- 3:28:25Speaker 1: twenty three? Ah? No, I think it just has to
- 3:28:31Speaker 1: do with who's on the board, who who they like
- 3:28:34Speaker 1: and who they don't like? You know, right, Um? SPI
- 3:28:39Speaker 1: wants to know why has Eric stopped saying good for him?
- 3:28:43Speaker 1: With all these Virginia emails, it would have been a
- 3:28:45Speaker 1: little bit redundant at this, you know. I mean we're
- 3:28:48Speaker 1: on record. It's saying, you know, Virginia's really gotten around
- 3:28:52Speaker 1: though tonight. Oh my goodness. Not of respect from my mom.
- 3:28:55Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. This is Parrello. We love you.
- 3:29:02Speaker 1: Have we seen the Green Bay pick yet? I know
- 3:29:04Speaker 1: it is in though. Um Chris from Roanoke another one. Wow. Also,
- 3:29:11Speaker 1: because he lives in Roanoke, I'm assuming that he's a
- 3:29:13Speaker 1: hokey fan. I don't understand this anyway, a little Yeah,
- 3:29:19Speaker 1: just tuned in, heard some Barno talk. Yes, living forty
- 3:29:22Speaker 1: five minutes from Lane Stadium, I go to a few
- 3:29:25Speaker 1: games this season in Barnow sticks out on the field.
- 3:29:29Speaker 1: But I also like the Galton Keene pick. So maybe
- 3:29:32Speaker 1: I'm just biased. See that's the same thing I said
- 3:29:35Speaker 1: when the hookey asked about Barno. Yeah, um, let's see
- 3:29:41Speaker 1: who else do we have. David was from Australia, so
- 3:29:47Speaker 1: I said. He didn't say who he's from, where he's from?
- 3:29:49Speaker 1: He told us, he said, Um, let's say Rick writes
- 3:29:52Speaker 1: in from Louisville. We don't want to You don't want
- 3:29:57Speaker 1: to say it. I don't. I don't think we're supposed to,
- 3:30:00Speaker 1: are we? The good the good news is is that
- 3:30:06Speaker 1: my pick is still available, all right? Rick says, that
- 3:30:10Speaker 1: was your pick? Now, Andrew both Rick says, what are
- 3:30:15Speaker 1: the chances that Belichick trades down number twenty nine? He
- 3:30:18Speaker 1: gets even more picks for tomorrow and Saturday? I will
- 3:30:21Speaker 1: sat zero. The trade makes a little more sense to
- 3:30:24Speaker 1: me now based on who they picked. All right, Okay,
- 3:30:27Speaker 1: I don't like it anymore, but it makes me makes
- 3:30:30Speaker 1: his reason to it all right? That I can sort
- 3:30:33Speaker 1: of see. So um and we'll get to that. Yeah,
- 3:30:35Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. Oh boy, I can't wait. You've
- 3:30:37Speaker 1: got me, You've got me intrigued. You know what what
- 3:30:42Speaker 1: are you doing telling you? He's telling of the guy
- 3:30:45Speaker 1: that they took. He's paper, don't his sheet, don't don't
- 3:30:49Speaker 1: don't do this tone. The packers are making their pick
- 3:30:52Speaker 1: right now. Okay, all right, let's see let's he Neil
- 3:31:00Speaker 1: writes in um, he says, my two Buckeyes are off
- 3:31:03Speaker 1: the board, and I really wanted olave. But can you
- 3:31:06Speaker 1: see the Patriots taking Nicholas Pettit Pettit Frere in the
- 3:31:09Speaker 1: fourth or fifth. He can be a great fit on
- 3:31:11Speaker 1: the line. Do you guys know him? Yeah? They do
- 3:31:14Speaker 1: need a guard. They need a guy. She's a tackle.
- 3:31:16Speaker 1: I would love a live look of Aaron Rodgers right
- 3:31:20Speaker 1: now when they make this pick. Do we know this? Wat?
- 3:31:26Speaker 1: Did they take a quarterback? No? No? Oh Wyatt. I
- 3:31:31Speaker 1: mean I think a lot of people thought they were
- 3:31:32Speaker 1: gonna get a wide receiver for Er and they needed
- 3:31:38Speaker 1: to trade up to get one, right, and they didn't.
- 3:31:40Speaker 1: He's been asking for that for like three years. And
- 3:31:42Speaker 1: here we are. Oh uh, let's see Bennett. Go ahead,
- 3:31:54Speaker 1: our pick is out there on Twitter. Now, can we
- 3:31:56Speaker 1: talk about him? Oh? Is it it is? Yeah? It's
- 3:32:00Speaker 1: our pick. So yeah, Chattanooga UT, Chattanooga, O lion cold Strange.
- 3:32:05Speaker 1: He is a he's a guard. He was one of
- 3:32:08Speaker 1: the last guys I chopped from my my big board. Yeah,
- 3:32:11Speaker 1: um was a guy that was connected to the Patriots
- 3:32:15Speaker 1: a bit. But I'm I'm disappointed he was estranged from
- 3:32:18Speaker 1: your big board. He was. He was one of the
- 3:32:20Speaker 1: last guys I knocked interesting because I literally said, what
- 3:32:23Speaker 1: would y'all do if they picked at this position we're
- 3:32:27Speaker 1: gonna find right now. So he's a guard. Um and
- 3:32:30Speaker 1: there it is, I obviously a need. But I I'll
- 3:32:34Speaker 1: let Paul say what I'm thinking, because it's just it's
- 3:32:36Speaker 1: I think they needs a lot you can get. I
- 3:32:39Speaker 1: think that if you're gonna get a position that you
- 3:32:41Speaker 1: have to fill in an NFL team, I think guard
- 3:32:42Speaker 1: will be the last one I filled. I think Deuces
- 3:32:44Speaker 1: is close to melting down, like I usually melted down,
- 3:32:46Speaker 1: and I just I like it. What I meant by
- 3:32:49Speaker 1: not it makes a little more sense the trade because
- 3:32:53Speaker 1: um Kenyan Greene and Zion Johnson went right in close
- 3:32:57Speaker 1: proximity to where the Patriots were, So my guesses they
- 3:32:59Speaker 1: would have taken one of those two guys at twenty
- 3:33:02Speaker 1: one if they were there. They weren't, so they treated down,
- 3:33:05Speaker 1: they picked up picks and got a guard. Now. I
- 3:33:08Speaker 1: don't think this guy's a first round pick. I don't.
- 3:33:10Speaker 1: That's the That's the thing to me, like, why didn't
- 3:33:12Speaker 1: they just trade into tomorrow. Why did they even bother
- 3:33:15Speaker 1: picking him this high? They could have picked something. I mean,
- 3:33:17Speaker 1: obviously they didn't like Booth because I think that would
- 3:33:19Speaker 1: have been a guy that made some sense there. Um,
- 3:33:22Speaker 1: they didn't like Dean enough to pick with with Cole Strange.
- 3:33:26Speaker 1: You know, you know, like Mark Daniels, who is really
- 3:33:28Speaker 1: generally very positive, says he mocked. He mocked Cole Strange
- 3:33:34Speaker 1: to the Patriots in the third round, So I mean
- 3:33:38Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, he was circling. I mean, and it
- 3:33:41Speaker 1: just to pull up some some background um about him,
- 3:33:45Speaker 1: just from from Dane Brugler's Beast. Um. You know, forty
- 3:33:49Speaker 1: four starts, forty two at left guard, one at left tackle,
- 3:33:53Speaker 1: won it at center, but rugged, mean blocking demeanor and
- 3:33:58Speaker 1: prides himself on quest to finish every play. Zero bad
- 3:34:00Speaker 1: weight in his frame. Intelligence is clear on and off
- 3:34:02Speaker 1: the field, three point seven one gpa in college, named
- 3:34:05Speaker 1: a senior captain with outstanding football character, football matters to himself.
- 3:34:09Speaker 1: I mean, he was on the radar. He was on
- 3:34:11Speaker 1: the radar. That's great. I think he could have gotten
- 3:34:14Speaker 1: him tomorrow. The Beast had him is the seventy third
- 3:34:17Speaker 1: ranked player. Our lads had him in the fifth round. Yeah, yeah,
- 3:34:22Speaker 1: you could have gotten him any of the days. It
- 3:34:24Speaker 1: seems like I just yeah, I gotta be with you guys,
- 3:34:29Speaker 1: curious to see how it changes tomorrow. Even Fred. I mean,
- 3:34:33Speaker 1: the only bright spot of it all is that scouts
- 3:34:36Speaker 1: can have a field day with using strange. It's a
- 3:34:38Speaker 1: bizarre it's a bizarre pick strange pick strange days. Indeed, Ah, yeah,
- 3:34:48Speaker 1: you got you gotta lef to keep from crying Deuce. Yeah. No,
- 3:34:50Speaker 1: I'm I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed, And I'm also disappointed that
- 3:34:56Speaker 1: I asked them from my big board like the last
- 3:34:58Speaker 1: three days where I was like, that's what that's that's
- 3:35:01Speaker 1: Bill probably saw that and he was like, you know what,
- 3:35:03Speaker 1: good They'll never think this is it? Um? Now, So
- 3:35:07Speaker 1: it is a guy that people are generally familiar with,
- 3:35:10Speaker 1: and and look, it's certainly in need. I mean, this
- 3:35:12Speaker 1: guy's probably pencilimon right now to start at left guard
- 3:35:14Speaker 1: opening day. Um, you know, and if he's good, if
- 3:35:18Speaker 1: he's Logan Mankins, then it makes sense, you know, if
- 3:35:21Speaker 1: he's Paul's guy. Was just here Logan getting ready to
- 3:35:23Speaker 1: go into the Hall of Fame. Maybe Logan talked to
- 3:35:26Speaker 1: Bill beforehand and said hey, but even still, but even still,
- 3:35:30Speaker 1: you know, like when they took Mankins, everything was kind
- 3:35:33Speaker 1: of in place, you know, just like, hey, we have
- 3:35:35Speaker 1: this luxury to take a guard, right now and it
- 3:35:38Speaker 1: kind of reinforce things a little bit for Breret. And
- 3:35:41Speaker 1: and now it's like and he came from a program
- 3:35:43Speaker 1: Pat Hill. There was a connection between Bill and him
- 3:35:45Speaker 1: already he had played and he didn't he play left tackle.
- 3:35:47Speaker 1: He played tacklety. So you know there's no versatility here
- 3:35:53Speaker 1: as well. You know, there's no like I mean, he
- 3:35:55Speaker 1: played what one game at left tackle? Fine, but he's
- 3:35:58Speaker 1: a left guard. That's what he is. That's what he's
- 3:36:00Speaker 1: gonna come here and play. Anything less than him coming
- 3:36:03Speaker 1: here and starting the next five years every game well
- 3:36:07Speaker 1: you know, obviously injuries happened, but you know being the
- 3:36:09Speaker 1: guy at left guard for Mac Jones for the next
- 3:36:12Speaker 1: five years that he will be. He's gonna probably start
- 3:36:22Speaker 1: day one and everybody'll say, what a great pick when
- 3:36:24Speaker 1: because no one will have any idea if he can
- 3:36:26Speaker 1: play right and they won't. No one will have any
- 3:36:28Speaker 1: idea if he's any good. But he's an interior offensive lineman.
- 3:36:32Speaker 1: He's got them. I mean, there's an obvious need for
- 3:36:34Speaker 1: a starter. They don't have one. So he's going to
- 3:36:37Speaker 1: get a chance to play right away, and everybody will say,
- 3:36:39Speaker 1: you know, he did it again. Chess checkers he did
- 3:36:43Speaker 1: it again. I mean, I don't know if he could play,
- 3:36:45Speaker 1: but you know, there you go. Yeah, I mean, you know,
- 3:36:49Speaker 1: just and I and I would argue based on what
- 3:36:51Speaker 1: everybody's saying. This guy was considered a late day to
- 3:36:55Speaker 1: early day three guy. You have all of those picks, right,
- 3:37:00Speaker 1: could have moved, you could have I know, defense. I
- 3:37:03Speaker 1: mean that's y'all know me. You know what I do
- 3:37:07Speaker 1: for a living. I like defense. I just feel bad
- 3:37:10Speaker 1: for Freddy, like he's been pounding the table forget quicker
- 3:37:13Speaker 1: and speedier on defense. And I mean they can still
- 3:37:16Speaker 1: get a guy in the second round, but right he's there,
- 3:37:20Speaker 1: Yeah even at twenty nine. Yet you could but I
- 3:37:25Speaker 1: bet you you won't. Yeah, you know, probably not. Ah,
- 3:37:29Speaker 1: So I'm disappointed too a little bit, you know. I
- 3:37:32Speaker 1: mean it's just at the bottom line, it's no offense
- 3:37:34Speaker 1: to all the guards out there, but you know, it's
- 3:37:36Speaker 1: not sexy position. Well like like we said, no one said,
- 3:37:39Speaker 1: you know, we were a guard away from winning the
- 3:37:41Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, Like if you're putting a team together,
- 3:37:43Speaker 1: I've always felt like, I'm like, guard is the position
- 3:37:46Speaker 1: where you're like, he doesn't really have to be on
- 3:37:47Speaker 1: the edge. He doesn't have to deal with pass rushers.
- 3:37:49Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be that mobile. He can kind
- 3:37:51Speaker 1: of be inside. We can hide him and you know,
- 3:37:53Speaker 1: and Paul had said something um during the process that
- 3:37:56Speaker 1: stuck with me, which was like, and I think it
- 3:37:59Speaker 1: was when everybody was circling the Zion Johnson train, which
- 3:38:02Speaker 1: at this point what I wouldn't give that, but you know,
- 3:38:05Speaker 1: we said, oh well we flipped Shack Mason. You have
- 3:38:08Speaker 1: a great guard, you get rid of him, and now
- 3:38:11Speaker 1: you got to replace him with the first round pick.
- 3:38:13Speaker 1: It's just it's it's you're chasing your tail, like it
- 3:38:16Speaker 1: doesn't you let your two guards go so you could
- 3:38:20Speaker 1: take a guard that a lot of people thought was
- 3:38:22Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, third round pick in the first round.
- 3:38:27Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope he works out. So if
- 3:38:30Speaker 1: he doesn't work out, it's it's worse than just a
- 3:38:31Speaker 1: bad pick. Should I take the mic and walk over
- 3:38:33Speaker 1: to the fan section when they announced yeah, I don't
- 3:38:36Speaker 1: think we'll be doing anything right right, Natt wanted to
- 3:38:38Speaker 1: do a little man in the street kind of thing.
- 3:38:41Speaker 1: I don't think this is a fire up. You can't
- 3:38:46Speaker 1: do that. I'll have a coughing fit right now. If
- 3:38:49Speaker 1: you can't me, Like, wait, what did someone say familiar
- 3:38:51Speaker 1: about this first pick that he was going to be
- 3:38:54Speaker 1: on the news if we picked oh guard, that's right.
- 3:38:58Speaker 1: If we pick no David, David, don't do it. Somebody
- 3:39:03Speaker 1: called the Boston police and get on the Tobin Bridge.
- 3:39:05Speaker 1: You're still a young man. Don't do it. Flow close
- 3:39:08Speaker 1: off the Tobin Bridge. They're lining up Riddy twenty ninth
- 3:39:14Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the New
- 3:39:19Speaker 1: England Patriots like cool, strange guard Shattanooga. Wow, there's no reaction?
- 3:39:36Speaker 1: Who who oh boy? Yeah? Uh kyron in Ireland rights
- 3:39:44Speaker 1: in stayed up to four thirty am for a guard.
- 3:39:47Speaker 1: I'm not happy, and I'm also drunk. I mean for
- 3:39:50Speaker 1: you for being drunk. But I mean, if you're a
- 3:39:53Speaker 1: Patriots fan and you've watched this team over the last
- 3:39:56Speaker 1: twenty years, shouldn't you have expected this? Really? No, I
- 3:40:02Speaker 1: mean more often than more often than not. This is
- 3:40:04Speaker 1: what build up. But he came off the year where
- 3:40:06Speaker 1: you had barmore in, same coach, Stevens, same coach, same
- 3:40:12Speaker 1: general manager. I know we were hoping that it would
- 3:40:15Speaker 1: be a little different this year. This is because of
- 3:40:17Speaker 1: last year he's still lacking like he's got brainy. Holy
- 3:40:21Speaker 1: that's you know what it is? How much the little
- 3:40:24Speaker 1: buzzwords really irritated to They are what they're designed to do.
- 3:40:32Speaker 1: Cody and Indiana says, I was withholding judgment on this
- 3:40:35Speaker 1: trade until I found out who they picked. Now that
- 3:40:37Speaker 1: I've heard who they got, I effing hate this pick
- 3:40:41Speaker 1: so damn much. I feel like this is us burning
- 3:40:44Speaker 1: a pick. I don't care if this is a legit
- 3:40:46Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, I hate it. Let's pop the brakes there.
- 3:40:50Speaker 1: I mean, this is a waste of a pick. I'm
- 3:40:56Speaker 1: not an author, I'm not a poet, I'm not a philosopher.
- 3:40:59Speaker 1: So I do not have the words to even describe
- 3:41:02Speaker 1: how much I don't like this pick. As I'm typing,
- 3:41:05Speaker 1: this Deuce is saying if he's Logan Mankins, no, Deuce,
- 3:41:09Speaker 1: I don't care if this is the best guard of
- 3:41:11Speaker 1: all time. This is not a good pick. It's not good.
- 3:41:14Speaker 1: I wish I had gone to sleep an hour ago,
- 3:41:16Speaker 1: or that I had drank a hell of a lot
- 3:41:18Speaker 1: more whiskey tonight. I hate it, and I don't want
- 3:41:21Speaker 1: Bill Belichick to ever make a pick again. Wow. Uh, well,
- 3:41:28Speaker 1: a little bit of trivia, though, he becomes the first
- 3:41:31Speaker 1: Chattanooga player to be drafted in the top five rounds
- 3:41:33Speaker 1: since Terrell Owens. Yeah, and so I hate to say this,
- 3:41:38Speaker 1: but you know, Bill has a tendency to kind of
- 3:41:42Speaker 1: do favors for people and his connection to the state
- 3:41:46Speaker 1: of Tennessee. I just wonder, like it's just you know,
- 3:41:52Speaker 1: because a friend of Fobb. Yeah, I just I just wonder,
- 3:41:56Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, it's a it's a it'll be ard
- 3:42:00Speaker 1: Bill to swallow a night. There's some picks tomorrow. They've
- 3:42:03Speaker 1: got some ammunition. I mean, they gotta they gotta do more.
- 3:42:06Speaker 1: I mean, look at what the Jets did tonight. You
- 3:42:09Speaker 1: know that's that's gotta be. They're the only team that
- 3:42:11Speaker 1: you were like, well, we still got the Jets right. Well,
- 3:42:14Speaker 1: and you know it comes off Matt Grows comments recently about,
- 3:42:17Speaker 1: you know, being aggressive, especially at the wide receiver position.
- 3:42:20Speaker 1: I know we all want a kind of defense, but
- 3:42:22Speaker 1: just in general, look at what the league has done
- 3:42:26Speaker 1: this offseason. The AFC in particularly, they've been aggressive. They've
- 3:42:28Speaker 1: gone after talent, they've gone after the guys that they
- 3:42:31Speaker 1: wanted in New England, seems like they're just kind of
- 3:42:34Speaker 1: doing what they usually do. George Coloftus went just went
- 3:42:37Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. I think that's a good pick for
- 3:42:39Speaker 1: Kansas City. They needed an edge rusher. I don't know
- 3:42:41Speaker 1: if he's good enough, but you know, a flyer at
- 3:42:44Speaker 1: the end of the first round. He's first round talent. Yeah,
- 3:42:46Speaker 1: everybody had him in their mocks in the first round.
- 3:42:49Speaker 1: They need pass rushing help big time. They do interesting
- 3:42:52Speaker 1: kind of scheme fit. I mean I guess, uh, well,
- 3:42:55Speaker 1: what the defensive coordinators still there. The guy from the Giants,
- 3:42:58Speaker 1: Spagnola is still there, so yeah he yeah, he fits
- 3:43:02Speaker 1: that kind of mold um tough kid. Yeah. I mean,
- 3:43:06Speaker 1: pretty good pick for them. I mean I just uh,
- 3:43:10Speaker 1: Eric Eric from Amastberg says I'm beyond mad Am Hurstberg.
- 3:43:15Speaker 1: Maybe I'm beyond mad. You guys and mac Jones are
- 3:43:19Speaker 1: the only things keeping me, uh watching this year. I'm
- 3:43:23Speaker 1: losing faith in Bill so mad. Thanks for everything, boy. Yeah,
- 3:43:29Speaker 1: it's there's no way to put you know, lipstick on it.
- 3:43:32Speaker 1: It's uh. It was kind of the thing we were talking,
- 3:43:37Speaker 1: like you would you have preferred Zion Johnson? Yeah, like
- 3:43:43Speaker 1: use because he's well. To Paul's point, I think the
- 3:43:46Speaker 1: Patriots would have too. I think he was gone and
- 3:43:49Speaker 1: then they traded down. But but here's the but here's
- 3:43:51Speaker 1: the question. Did they really think guard was that much
- 3:43:54Speaker 1: of a need that they had to get whichever guard
- 3:43:56Speaker 1: was there, they do not have a starting player. But yeah,
- 3:44:00Speaker 1: but I would agree with you it was right. I like,
- 3:44:03Speaker 1: I said, why not just take this guy in the
- 3:44:05Speaker 1: third round? You get the same thing out of him.
- 3:44:06Speaker 1: But he did exactly you know, fourth round, right, third
- 3:44:11Speaker 1: round unless unless they knew something, what do they know?
- 3:44:15Speaker 1: Somebody else was gonna take him. Listen, I understand, you
- 3:44:17Speaker 1: know that's going to come out. I understand. Well, yeah,
- 3:44:20Speaker 1: I mean I'll be I'll be nice. It's late. Um,
- 3:44:25Speaker 1: there's there's always the chance that these guys are wrong.
- 3:44:27Speaker 1: I say it all the time, that they do their best,
- 3:44:29Speaker 1: they try to analyze with these guys are gonna go.
- 3:44:31Speaker 1: But every one of these guys has tweeted something out.
- 3:44:34Speaker 1: Mel Kiper was the latest one. He had him sixty
- 3:44:36Speaker 1: ninth on his board. Um, good player fills a need,
- 3:44:39Speaker 1: but that's way high. Um doesn't mean he's right. And
- 3:44:43Speaker 1: a lot of guys had similar kind of things. I
- 3:44:45Speaker 1: had him in the third. Would you say our lads
- 3:44:47Speaker 1: had him in the fifth round. Um, maybe they're wrong,
- 3:44:51Speaker 1: Maybe this guy was gonna get taken, and you know
- 3:44:54Speaker 1: they're wrong. Who knows, Tom and Melbourne, Australia. I was
- 3:44:58Speaker 1: having a great time laughing at Eric and Paul from
- 3:45:00Speaker 1: being upset about a trade down. Just shows me that
- 3:45:02Speaker 1: Belichick will be Belichick. Genius stuff from Belichick to trade
- 3:45:06Speaker 1: Shack Mason for a fifth, which then became a six
- 3:45:09Speaker 1: and a seventh, then pick a guard at twenty nine
- 3:45:11Speaker 1: who most had available in the later rounds. I'd have
- 3:45:14Speaker 1: preferred to trade out of the first round than this.
- 3:45:17Speaker 1: This team has always been able to find guards and
- 3:45:19Speaker 1: later rounds and coached them up. Four dimensional checkers from
- 3:45:22Speaker 1: Bill the GM Once again checkers, He says, So, my god,
- 3:45:28Speaker 1: the Felder and mass big board hit again. Oh really,
- 3:45:30Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. They got they had him. They throw markers
- 3:45:34Speaker 1: at magazines and they whoever they hit, they had this guy.
- 3:45:38Speaker 1: And ten out of twelve years they've hit it. Oh
- 3:45:40Speaker 1: my god, ten out of twelve makes me want to
- 3:45:44Speaker 1: reevaluate what I'm doing with my life. That's the whole
- 3:45:47Speaker 1: point is they hate draft talk. Yeah, and these guys
- 3:45:50Speaker 1: that you know, pour these hours and hours of evaluation
- 3:45:53Speaker 1: and no one has any idea. And it was literally
- 3:45:56Speaker 1: they said, it's like throwing darts at a dartboard, and
- 3:45:59Speaker 1: we should do that, And they do Curtain and they
- 3:46:02Speaker 1: get it right every time Curtain Chapel Hill. That'll teach
- 3:46:06Speaker 1: us all for dreading a reach for a second round
- 3:46:09Speaker 1: caliber player consensus as Cole Strange as a third round player.
- 3:46:13Speaker 1: Whenever you get the chance to waste the first round
- 3:46:15Speaker 1: pick on a low value position and a bad value player,
- 3:46:18Speaker 1: you just have to do it. What an atrocious pick. Wow,
- 3:46:24Speaker 1: The reviews are coming in and they're not good. Good, Yeah,
- 3:46:27Speaker 1: not good, Bob. I mean, I think the other part
- 3:46:29Speaker 1: of it that's that's a little disappointing is just that
- 3:46:31Speaker 1: I think after last year, it was kind of a
- 3:46:33Speaker 1: down the middle draft and they needed a quarterback that
- 3:46:36Speaker 1: got Mac, they traded up to get bar More ended
- 3:46:38Speaker 1: up being an impact player, and you you felt like
- 3:46:41Speaker 1: things that maybe shift a little bit, and this one
- 3:46:45Speaker 1: feels like a trade down and a reach, which is
- 3:46:47Speaker 1: just I feel like the well, yeah and worst, you know,
- 3:46:51Speaker 1: I hate to harp on it, but like you're seeing
- 3:46:53Speaker 1: other teams doing more aggressive things to make themselves better.
- 3:46:58Speaker 1: At least on paper this off season, and the Patriots
- 3:47:01Speaker 1: are zagging when everyone else is zigging. Chris and Laguna
- 3:47:04Speaker 1: Niguel California, you guys are in full meltdown. I love it, Deuce.
- 3:47:09Speaker 1: I hope you're right now out go out and trade
- 3:47:12Speaker 1: into the early second round. Wow, I don't know for
- 3:47:19Speaker 1: a tight end. No, I'm only kidding. Let's see, Addison says, who,
- 3:47:24Speaker 1: I can't believe this pick. This screams Smarmie Arragon Belichick.
- 3:47:28Speaker 1: While the rest of the league is drafting talent. Bill
- 3:47:31Speaker 1: left McDuffie, Devin Lloyd and the Kobe Dean twice on
- 3:47:34Speaker 1: the board. This is an absurd pick. And frankly, if
- 3:47:37Speaker 1: this is a sign of what kind of decision calculus
- 3:47:40Speaker 1: Bill is capable of computing at the moment, it may
- 3:47:42Speaker 1: be time for him to go out to pasture. Wow.
- 3:47:46Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, evidently the Rams really had some fun
- 3:47:49Speaker 1: at the expense of the Patriots on this pick. Oh really,
- 3:47:51Speaker 1: I can't hear it. The Rams would have taken him
- 3:47:56Speaker 1: at one oh four. Oh boy did they say that? Yeah,
- 3:48:00Speaker 1: and they laughed made the pick. There's a video and
- 3:48:03Speaker 1: they let that out. Really, Wow, that's not good. Bill's
- 3:48:06Speaker 1: not gonna like that. Wow care wow, um, let's see.
- 3:48:15Speaker 1: Scott writes in from the UK, It's four twenty two am,
- 3:48:19Speaker 1: and I, like many others, called it q Eric Peacocks
- 3:48:22Speaker 1: sound bite, a trade back and an interior O line prospect.
- 3:48:26Speaker 1: Bill preaches value but takes utterly bizarre player choices. Almost
- 3:48:30Speaker 1: every year, Strange was graded as a four to fifth
- 3:48:33Speaker 1: round prospect, solid, unspectacular, needs to develop. Why didn't we
- 3:48:38Speaker 1: take an interior o line later in the draft like
- 3:48:41Speaker 1: most teams do. This isn't a can't miss prospect. It's
- 3:48:44Speaker 1: a colossal, colossal reach. We needed to get day one
- 3:48:48Speaker 1: surefire lead pipe lock starters with our first two picks.
- 3:48:52Speaker 1: As at a minimum, this is not that route. We
- 3:48:55Speaker 1: don't have TV twelve to cover up for Bill's draft
- 3:48:58Speaker 1: gambles anymore. Someone tell Bill that, like Paul said, you
- 3:49:02Speaker 1: don't hear teams say we were just to guard away
- 3:49:04Speaker 1: from the super Bowl. He calls it gross. Yeah, there
- 3:49:09Speaker 1: goes Daxton Hill there too, Uh to the Bengals, which
- 3:49:13Speaker 1: is fun. You know there's a guy you're taking him.
- 3:49:15Speaker 1: People probably wouldn't be riding in the streets right now. Yeah.
- 3:49:19Speaker 1: Caber from Toledo, Ohio, says you should watch mcvay's reactions. Yeah,
- 3:49:24Speaker 1: I just watch. I have it, but I want to
- 3:49:26Speaker 1: I want to be able to hear it. But is
- 3:49:27Speaker 1: that from their war room they're like giving a press conference. Oh,
- 3:49:30Speaker 1: it's as like they it seemed like they were just
- 3:49:32Speaker 1: sitting there talking and it's uh, I mean, it's you
- 3:49:36Speaker 1: want to talk about something that's gonna rakle the people
- 3:49:38Speaker 1: that they're gonna like that they are they are like,
- 3:49:42Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, laughing, But yeah, everyone can check it out
- 3:49:45Speaker 1: for themselves. But it's, uh, they're the super Bowl champs.
- 3:49:49Speaker 1: Let's just say Sruan mcfay went from like looking like
- 3:49:51Speaker 1: a total idiot talking to Belichick before that super Bowl
- 3:49:54Speaker 1: they love today he's like, now he's now I'm the
- 3:49:56Speaker 1: super Bowl champ. You guys are terrible. Huh right, Oh boy, Yeah,
- 3:50:00Speaker 1: that's poor to me. Um, I'm so sick to my stomach,
- 3:50:03Speaker 1: says Andre from Please kill me Now, I just lost
- 3:50:08Speaker 1: faith in Bill. What are we doing in the war room.
- 3:50:12Speaker 1: Let's say two is some of that just as I'm
- 3:50:13Speaker 1: digging here a little bit um, you know, it might
- 3:50:15Speaker 1: he might have a little bit of a center center
- 3:50:18Speaker 1: of possibility too, So just you know, trying to be
- 3:50:21Speaker 1: fair to the kids. Oh, he's he's listed as a
- 3:50:23Speaker 1: center and in some of these things. Yeah, one of
- 3:50:26Speaker 1: the big boards that I had had him listed as
- 3:50:28Speaker 1: a center. But I mean, we don't need a center.
- 3:50:30Speaker 1: He's got to play guard. Yeah. Wow, David Andrews isn't
- 3:50:33Speaker 1: going anywhere? Is he? I don't know. Please tell me
- 3:50:36Speaker 1: David Andrews isn't going anywhere. No, he was signing autographs
- 3:50:39Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm just I'm just
- 3:50:42Speaker 1: correcting myself when I said earlier, first round with only
- 3:50:47Speaker 1: one quarterback being drafted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Minnesota's up right, Yeah,
- 3:50:53Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. All right, well listen, I think that's gonna
- 3:50:59Speaker 1: be it for a Yeah, you can't make it to
- 3:51:01Speaker 1: the last pick. We gotta figure this out. Um, this
- 3:51:08Speaker 1: is like this is like the Emmys when they start
- 3:51:10Speaker 1: to play off. Okay, Freddie, you'll get a good night
- 3:51:13Speaker 1: will well, you'll get a good night's sleep. Tomorrow you're
- 3:51:16Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, I'm really liking this, right,
- 3:51:18Speaker 1: I gotta figure out how I'm gonna spin this tomorrow.
- 3:51:20Speaker 1: But anyway, we will be back tomorrow, starting at seven
- 3:51:23Speaker 1: o'clock with the second and third round. We'll see you then.
- 3:51:28Speaker 1: Thanks for listening tonight. It's always fun. Round one. Talk
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