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The Brainwash Defense (and Other Conspiracy News) · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: Beary podcast, with your hosts Adam Todd Brown and Olivia Hidar.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I'm Olivia Hidar And.
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  Speaker 4: Podoyet, this whole show is scripted.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Hey that's Andy Sell and Cube Cell.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's what they call me.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently there are people who think this podcast or the
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  Speaker 2: podcast that I do, are scripted, which, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: that would take so much time, like writing script for
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  Speaker 2: five episodes a week.
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  Speaker 4: That's very funny to think, No, we don't script this out.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you should win an Emmy or whatever equivalent
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  Speaker 2: More ethical awards in that I think you can just
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  Speaker 2: like buy one. At this point.
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  Speaker 4: You just take home the golden Ethernet cable or whatever
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  Speaker 4: the fucking statute through a Webby.
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  Speaker 2: even if that someone set it up. And please award
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  Speaker 2: Conspiracy the show. You know, we fucking deserve it.
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  Speaker 4: We do.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, we're doing a conspiracy News round up episode. Yay,
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  Speaker 2: because it is two K twenty three, and that means
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  Speaker 2: all you gotta do is google the word conspiracy and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of trending recent current news is going to
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  Speaker 2: come up.
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  Speaker 4: That is true.
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  Speaker 2: That that's how the research for this works. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why I love these episodes so much. It's so easy.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of easy, this is pretty low hanging fruit when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to a conspiracy podcast.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean you gotta.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about a truly historic event. Finally, for the
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  Speaker 2: first time, Mexico held its first congressional hearing about aliens.
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  Speaker 5: Woo.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what took them so long. I think
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  Speaker 2: everyone seen this by now, right, Yeah, it's yeah. The
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  Speaker 2: UFO hearing even wilder than the one that we just had,
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  Speaker 2: where a guy was like, yeah, we got UFOs in
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  Speaker 2: like in a garage in.
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  Speaker 3: I fucking tell us something. We don't know, pal, it's.
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  Speaker 5: My stepdad's he's working on it. We can't don't scratch it.
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  Speaker 5: It's just blue Oyster cult blasting from a garage near
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  Speaker 5: the White House.
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  Speaker 2: The star of this hearing was UFO enthusiast and journalist
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  Speaker 2: Jime Mosan, and what he brought along with him was
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  Speaker 2: what he alleged to be two mummified bodies of alien origin.
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  Speaker 2: And they, I mean they look like aliens. You know, sure,
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  Speaker 2: they look like what we envision aliens to.
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  Speaker 4: Be, right, yeahb sized humans.
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  Speaker 6: It looked like a fifth grader made them with paper mache.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, which is why I believe them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do look pretty silly. And the thing about it,
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  Speaker 2: there's like videos out there where there's like labs that
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  Speaker 2: are like, no, we tested them, there's no no manipulation
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  Speaker 2: of any sort. And the thing is, even if these
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  Speaker 2: things are real, no one's ever gonna believe it, Like
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  Speaker 2: even I like I am one of the least cynical
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  Speaker 2: people when it comes to stuff. Like this, and even
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that lab could be in on it,
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  Speaker 2: like this, Yeah, like this could very easily be a
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  Speaker 2: fucking hoax.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I don't think it takes much effort to think
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  Speaker 4: that it might be a hoax. It's pretty hoaxy. It
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  Speaker 4: looks like every other hoax that we've gotten since Chariot
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  Speaker 4: of the Gods. So like, I don't know, man, although
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm ready to like eat my words. As
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  Speaker 4: soon as he puts some water on him and they
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  Speaker 4: grow like four times the size, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That would be so cool. Start multiplying like gremlins exactly.
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  Speaker 3: They were underground for a reason.
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  Speaker 6: Huh, Yeah, I agree, But I yeah, I want to
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  Speaker 6: believe this. This is one of those things.
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  Speaker 5: I'm very I'm a very cynical, skeptical person. I don't
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  Speaker 5: believe any shit ever, pretty much, but like, I want
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  Speaker 5: to believe this one because it's just because it's so
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  Speaker 5: obviously a hoax, because it has such flagrant like that.
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  Speaker 5: Remember that guy that had the body of Bigfoot in
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  Speaker 5: a cooler or a freezer or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what did that turn out to me?
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  Speaker 5: I can't remember if it turned out to be like
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  Speaker 5: a costume or just another animal or something. But it
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  Speaker 5: really feels like that kind of a thing, which is
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  Speaker 5: why I want it to be, because I want the.
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  Speaker 6: Shit that's so clearly a hoax to be the stuff
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  Speaker 6: that's yeah, just go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: No, I just hope that he didn't fuck up the
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  Speaker 4: Nasca lines more getting this thing.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they're already pretty much gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the one thing that at least makes
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  Speaker 2: me think this wouldn't be a government conspiracy, Like there's
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  Speaker 2: no way. They're just like trying to drum up tourism
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  Speaker 2: to the Nascal Lines. That's the last fucking thing the
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  Speaker 2: Nascal Lines need.
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  Speaker 6: But they just want to compete with Machu Pichu.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like everybody comes here to Machu Pichu for
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  Speaker 5: their honeymoons and shit.
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  Speaker 4: Well people keep saying, but you're both in Peru, so
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  Speaker 4: you win.
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  Speaker 6: But they're too similar, is the thing. They're too and
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  Speaker 6: they don't even know it, Like they fight like siblings
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  Speaker 6: because they're basically the same person.
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  Speaker 3: I would fuck with Machu Pichu.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I would bother like I would want
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  Speaker 2: to see the Nasca lines, but like from the sky.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, from a distance.
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  Speaker 3: They don't want to be on the ground. They're not
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  Speaker 3: going to look like anything.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that why it took him so long be discovered,
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  Speaker 2: Like we eventually had to learn to fly and then
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  Speaker 2: we were like, oh, there they are.
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  Speaker 4: Well, really, the whole valley is surrounded. But we've talked
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  Speaker 4: about this on the Cherry of God's episode. The whole
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  Speaker 4: valley is surrounded by really tall hills, which would make
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  Speaker 4: it perfect for people to have seen them. So anyway,
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  Speaker 4: so take that in the lines.
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  Speaker 6: Ye get up on the hill and look at that shit.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't think this is an alien. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Is it a mummified child? Is that the theory because
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  Speaker 5: that's where it looks.
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  Speaker 4: Like a fucking sculpture.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently things like this that have been discovered previously
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  Speaker 2: ended up being mummified kids. But if that's the case, like,
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  Speaker 2: why the long faced kid, why do you look like that?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Because he he was it's mummified. That's probably not his face.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's not the years.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe it's the mileage. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that that, they do claim that they've
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  Speaker 2: carbon dated this thing in that it's a thousand years
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  Speaker 2: old or more than a thousand years old, probably not
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  Speaker 2: like you're dead on one thousand years old. That would
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  Speaker 2: be wild if.
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  Speaker 5: They're saying because the right they're saying that the lab
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  Speaker 5: says it's not a human that it had doesn't it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't share enough DNA or whatever with humans to be
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  Speaker 5: a human. That's I don't they're not even using the
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  Speaker 5: words DNA. This is why I don't trust this lab.
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  Speaker 5: It's because it's all like, yeah, there's nothing human about this,
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  Speaker 5: and it's like, well, well that could mean it's a
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  Speaker 5: rock then, or could it be like a mummified primate
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  Speaker 5: from a.
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  Speaker 6: Thousand years ago?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows.
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  Speaker 6: I mean in that case that's fun too, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, even if it's a mummified alien. I mean kind
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  Speaker 2: of so, what where are they now?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you were here a thousand years ago?
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  Speaker 2: That is borderline like saying there were like extinct animals
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  Speaker 2: at one point, and it's like, there's sure were there
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  Speaker 2: were lots of things that did exist and that don't anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Like if aliens came here and just died off, I
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  Speaker 2: guess we're.
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  Speaker 6: Well it's you know, they got wet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like our craft stays in the sky
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  Speaker 2: better than their ship, and it seems like, uh, we
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  Speaker 2: survived whatever happened at the Nasca lines.
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  Speaker 4: If we definitely survived, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 5: So I like to think that every time a UFO
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  Speaker 5: or a UAP excuse me, ends up on this planet
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  Speaker 5: like crashed, it's not because aliens are exploring us. It's
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  Speaker 5: like when we get drunk and go off the road
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  Speaker 5: out in the middle of nowhere driving somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: It's just that.
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  Speaker 5: For it's just that aliens like fucked up on whatever
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  Speaker 5: aliens get fucked up on. Yeah, well, like he like
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  Speaker 5: looks down because a tape falls into the from the
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  Speaker 5: console and he's got to reach over the seat to pick.
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  Speaker 6: It up, and the next thing he knows, he's a
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  Speaker 6: fucking Roswell.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say. I do think that is
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  Speaker 4: basically the current most popular theory. Basically, yeah, they got
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  Speaker 4: struck by lightning, and crash is going to fuck up
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  Speaker 4: an extraterrestrial spacecraft. They could travel through space. They can't
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  Speaker 4: prepare for some electricity.
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  Speaker 2: But I do like that theory, like that aliens reaching
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  Speaker 2: for his seager cassette ends up on Earth and hey,
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  Speaker 2: there the ships can't handle our atmosphere the other I
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  Speaker 2: still I've said it before and I'll say it again.
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  Speaker 2: That really speaks to my question of well, then why
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  Speaker 2: why would we want it? Why would we want a
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  Speaker 2: technology if it can't Well, this is balloons, the real
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  Speaker 2: guy better than this ship.
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  Speaker 4: The real question is how did they get a Bob
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  Speaker 4: Seger cassette in nineteen forty seven?
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  Speaker 2: Time travel and alien theory? There you go, Hollywood Knights, baby, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I love the.
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  Speaker 6: Other aliens, Like, just put on the radio. It's not
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  Speaker 6: worth it, man, It's like Hollywood.
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  Speaker 2: Knights, and who doesn't I love Bob Seger. I saw
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  Speaker 2: Bob Seger in concert and I cried a little because
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  Speaker 2: I could see that because Sgar rules and he like
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  Speaker 2: had like mostly retired and then just all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden like came back and it was fucking great.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, of course it was fucking great. The
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  Speaker 5: man is an intergalactic icon. He's so good that he's
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  Speaker 5: popular with aliens.
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  Speaker 2: He caused Roswell. We got to get that on a
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  Speaker 2: T shirt. Seeger caused Roswell.
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  Speaker 4: Shirt?
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  Speaker 2: All right? So yeah, who knows this dude? Fucking Antiques
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  Speaker 2: Road showed Mexican Congress, and it's never like I feel
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  Speaker 2: like there had to be a point in history where
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  Speaker 2: someone was trying to get a skeptic to believe UFOs
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  Speaker 2: and aliens are real, and they're like, what's it gonna take.
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  Speaker 2: Someone gets in front of Congress actually holding an alien.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it's gonna take. Nope, that's still not enough.
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  Speaker 6: Still not enough.
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  Speaker 2: Ever, gonna like they're gonna have to invade, Like that's
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  Speaker 2: the only solution. Like, for a lot of reasons, I
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  Speaker 2: think aliens should.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm cool. Yeah again, I think we've
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  Speaker 6: said this a few times. Who cares? Let them?
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  Speaker 2: It's my apocalypse of choice for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as.
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  Speaker 2: I die in like the War of the World's shoot
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  Speaker 2: them up stuff like human enslavement stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going up to the top of the building in
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  Speaker 4: Los Angeles and holding up the side. I'm ready, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about a Democratic presidential candidate.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: This is so far the only alternative we got when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to Biden. In twenty twenty four, RFK Junior,
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  Speaker 2: he has breassed some skepticism over the official account of
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  Speaker 2: nine to eleven. And here's the thing. This guy's a nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's a big, big problem. He's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be president ever for so many reasons. I mean, actually
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to get.
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  Speaker 6: That, say that, don't monkey's pawn his ship exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, We've got a lot they would be.
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  Speaker 2: Hans Hans Han, there we go, there we go. How
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  Speaker 2: that convention works.
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  Speaker 4: I just think it would it would take like there's
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  Speaker 4: like a dozen worst case scenarios that we get to
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  Speaker 4: before r FK Junior.
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  Speaker 2: That is very true.
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  Speaker 4: There's like a million worse things that have to happen first.
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  Speaker 6: But like, again, don't tempt anything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what if it would be interesting what if
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  Speaker 2: it did come down to like RFK Junior and DeSantis,
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, at that point you got to be
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  Speaker 2: a conscientious objector in some way.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'm with Olivia on this too, because it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: before we get even that DeSantis v. RFK, before that
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  Speaker 6: even happens, there's already martial law. Like there's already like
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  Speaker 6: open fighting in the street.
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  Speaker 4: Things are in hell already.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Like you know, because you have to think, like, uh,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we lose Harris, we lose Speaker of the house,
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  Speaker 7: Like there's so many people who have to die before
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  Speaker 7: we're ready to like nominate RFK.
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  Speaker 6: I mean here's the thing though, like now I'm thinking
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  Speaker 6: about it. Now there's just t and.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, but this is not the news story.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: The story. Story is that somehow people are surprised, shocked,
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  Speaker 2: caught off guard. Really, RFK Junior questions the official narrative
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  Speaker 2: of what happened on nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 4: No, can shit, I can't believe conspiracy theory. The candidate
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  Speaker 4: wasn't real.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is like this is greatest hits
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  Speaker 5: conspiracy like exactly helped me with a B side here
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  Speaker 5: are I.
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  Speaker 4: Would be I would be way more shocked if he
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  Speaker 4: didn't think nine to eleven was an inside shock.
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  Speaker 5: The thing is is that in the story, it's even
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  Speaker 5: like he's even trying to not answer it, like right,
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  Speaker 5: this this journalist is pushing him, trying to get him
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  Speaker 5: to say something crazy about yeah right this podcaster.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. He was on a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And if you will link to the article, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to tell you to listen to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what podcast it was don't listen
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  Speaker 2: to any podcast except this one.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the only We're the only ones telling
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  Speaker 6: the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, at least in terms of conspiracy podcasts.
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  Speaker 4: It might be true.
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  Speaker 2: But this host was clearly trying to get RFK Junior
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  Speaker 2: to say crazy shit about nine to eleven and like
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  Speaker 2: he didn't want to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: He was like, he was like, I'm not the guy
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  Speaker 6: to talk to about this. He like admitted it was
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  Speaker 6: the first fucking rational thing Bobby Jay has said in
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  Speaker 6: his life. He's like, and this podcaster doesn't want to
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  Speaker 6: savor that moment. It's just like, no, what do you think? Though?
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  Speaker 6: What do you think? And he's like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not an expert. I'm not the guy. And also
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  Speaker 6: like I don't accept the official narrative is like congratulations
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  Speaker 6: you think critically, Like that's yeah, well nonstory.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing this guy, he's clearly trying to provoke
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  Speaker 2: like an exciting comment out of RFK Junior. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing, RFK Junior didn't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Fuck him. I don't care about his wishes.
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  Speaker 2: I hope all his dreams down in flames. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, this guy's like, oh, so you don't
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  Speaker 2: accept the official narrative. You don't accept that al Qaeda
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  Speaker 2: was responsible. And it's like, buddy, I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people don't necessarily think al Qaida was responsible anymore. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Like the families of nine to eleven victims, for example.
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  Speaker 4: Kaida pretty adamants Saudi Arabia is like, don't take credit exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Like this guy clearly has not looked into nine to
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  Speaker 2: eleven in a while.
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  Speaker 3: Like that part of the story.
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  Speaker 2: I think there is definitely room for discussion as to
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  Speaker 2: whether we maybe invaded the country or two over that is, yes.
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  Speaker 6: Or or three or four?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean what do you count as an invasion?
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  Speaker 5: Is it just stabilization of the region count or are
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  Speaker 5: we talking only proper like official military actions exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And like this is also so lazy. There's so many
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  Speaker 2: other crazy things you can get RFK Junior willingly.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gotta be such a softball fucking thing to do.
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  Speaker 6: Just ask him what he thinks about literally anything normal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yep, basically.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just to ask him about COVID for fox sake.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, ask him about COVID. That's all anybody should ever
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  Speaker 4: ask him about.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly kind of Yeah, yeah, r FK Junior, he's a
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  Speaker 2: fucking problem, are.
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  Speaker 6: You FK M Junior?
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  Speaker 4: Remember remember when Cornell West talked about ready for president
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: and he was like because I love this RFK Junior
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: so much.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: I was like, shut.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's a person that doesn't tell Cornell
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: West to shut up when he starts talking.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: Now he makes literally everybody look bad.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: God, all right, let's talk about I would argue this
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: headline is more interesting than it seems. Sure, fake Trump
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: electors say they were brainwashed, and on the surface, if
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: you just read the headline, you're like, well, yeah, no.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Shit, yeah, yeah, no kidding, Yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: You were brainwashed, of course you were. But this is
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: actually a really interesting defense strategy. What happened is there's
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: fake We've talked about the fake elector's scheme. If not
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: on this podcast, we've talked about it like the podcasts.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: If you don't know how it works, how are you
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: even listening to a conspiracy podcast?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Like that's like the initiation.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Like if you were to come to the door right now,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, tell me what the fake elector's scheme is,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: and and I would know belong in this room.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Right now, the worst exam ever.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: So there's people who have been indicted for those various
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: schemes all around the country, including sixteen people in Michigan,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and two of them apparently hired very good lawyers. They're
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: all being tried together, but they each have their own
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: individual lawyers and shit, and two of them apparently have
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: very good lawyers because their defense is that, well, they
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: were brainwashed by Trump, and for this crime to stick,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: you have to prove there was malicious intent. And if
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: someone's brainwashed, you're basically saying they're like a cult victim
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: at that point, and there can't be really malicious intent
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: in that case. And the reason they're saying that is
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: because Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel is the one who
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: said it. And she didn't say it when she indicted
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: these people. She didn't like put it in any court
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: ruling or any court died documents. She just went on
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the fucking internet and attended some virtual event for liberal
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: activists and said this.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: People talk a lot about, oh, why don't.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: You start flipping some of these people so that so
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that they can become witnesses against the remaining defendants. The
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: worst acting defendants. The problem is these are people who
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: have been brainwashed end quote. And you know, some people
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: just shouldn't talk.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Especially prosecutors. Fucking prosecutors are the dumbest motherfuckers, I swear
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: to God.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, even when they can't you know, whatever.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: The thing is, this is a very interesting story because
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: it's like the implications are so depressing, like if this
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: actually does, like and it's about it's all about like
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: the court that it's presented in, like that this argument
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: is presented, and the good faith or bad faith that
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: it's being taken in, like right, because it's an easy
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: thing to say, well, I was I spoke out of turn.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: This is not what I meant.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I wasn't using a clinical or legal definition of brainwashed.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Because also this is when you start getting into those
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: like weird like criminal justice Catch twenty twos and shit,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: where it's like, you know, oh, who would kill someone
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: if they weren't crazy? Therefore everyone who's killed someone is guilt,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: is not guilty by reason of insanity or whatever, you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Like you start picking that apart, and it's like, yeah,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: but it's so fucking depressing if this actually like undermines
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: the prosecution.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like it might.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: There's a really good argument for it. Definitely, Like if
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: they've got even a halfway decent lawyer, they're gonna jump
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: all over that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because of course they're brainwashed.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Of course they're brainwashed, that's the easy question.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: But does that absolved them of accountability?
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Like, right, it's not brainwashed in the you have no
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: responsibility for your actions. But they weren't logical brainwash.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they weren't literally winter soldiered.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: You know, they're not fucking like they're not a bunch
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: of Michigan candidates, right, you see what I did there?
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, especially in the case of Trump followers,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I almost don't agree with giving them cult status. Like
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: with a cult, there's some degree of like bait and
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: switch or like you're you're enticed into taking like life
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: coaching classes and next thing you know, you're getting fucking branded.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Like that's different. Like people were telling Trump followers about Trump,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: like there was plenty of information available and they sided
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: with him for very specific reasons.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, And that's why I hate that she said this
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: because I don't feel like they were brainwashed. I feel
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: like they just like this was just their thing like
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: this is their Yeah, well.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: It's it's the it's the right, the parrot, the paradox
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: or conundrum fascism, where it's like, yeah, it's a conformist ideology,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: but it's it's also about concentrating the power with the few.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: So it's not like it's this weird, elusive kind of
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: thing where it's really just because it's so stupid, Like
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: it's because the social conditioning was there in the first
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: place for someone like Donald Trump to come and take
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: advantage of it. But he didn't create the conditions. No,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: so but he also isn't like you said, he's not
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: literally like abducting people and like fucking re educating them
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: or programming them. It's just this is they for whatever
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: shitty reasons they have, they have, they have chosen the
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: side of cruelty.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: It's it's cultural indoctrination, ideological you know, it's it's stuff
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: that is reminiscent of brainwashing and cult behavior. But it
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: isn't literally removing agency from people in the way that
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: will be interpreted by courts trying to try this case exactly.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: It's the problem with using high you know, terms that
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: you're stretching, like brainwashing or cult like hyperbolically, because it's like, no,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: this is you're involved in the very specific, complex apparatus
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: of this.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Again, it just comes down to you, she should have
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: kept her fucking mouth shut, honestly, Like there was no
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: fucking reason for her to be a public figure in
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: that way, Like she should have just stayed fucking quiet
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: and prosecuted the goddamn case.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And you're now out of the countless times it's happened,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: this will be the one time a prosecutor actually gets
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: in trouble for saying something about a case that the Yeah,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: was littered with examples of prosecutors saying things like, even
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: when people are still just being investigated and act been
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: charged with anything that very much make that person look guilty. Yeah,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: you know, you probably shouldn't be able to do that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Prosecutors are just cops who are scared of guns, so
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: they're just as fucking stupid, and they're just as fucking vindictive.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I've said a bunch of times. I feel
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: like there should be something written into law that if
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: it can be proven that you like prosecuted someone you
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: knew was innocent, like it shouldn't end with that person
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: being exonerated and being let out of jail. You should
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: go to jail next. And I mean that sounds funny,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: but like there are cases where prosecutors like hid evidence
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: that they knew would exonerate. So absolutely prison that person
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: loses like eighteen years.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: All right, this is crazy talk, Adam. Next you're going
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: to be telling me that if a president lies to
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: start a war, they should be held somehow accountable.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: This is crazy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: No, that's that's a step too that's a step too far.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Oh no, then we would have if we did that,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: then we'd have to jail all of our presidents.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Where would michellema get all her candy from?
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: He's our only candy supplier.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Mush given Michelle Obama a piece of candy?
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, Yeah, you would.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Give the exercise first lady a piece of candy. Fucking monster.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Crime.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: Still great painter, though, great painter.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he really captured the desperation in people's souls.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Great at getting Jewish people to resettle in Israel
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: so enough of them can be there for the apocalypse
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: to happen. My god, google that everybody. So let's talk
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: about Twitter. No, I'm not gonna call it x it's
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: not fucking pronouns I get to call it I want,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: It's Twitter.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not changing.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna about this. I'm gonna exit about this, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be in trouble.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: You should and I probably will be.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, looking into this that's concerning there.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be a bunch of elections happening in twenty
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: twenty four, including one I believe right here in the
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: United States. I'll have the fact I don't know off camera.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Can someone Our team's on it, okay, a research team.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: All right, I'll stop. I'll stop looking it up. I
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: was gonna start looking it up.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: But if you got encyclopedia a way, andy, come on.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: But I've walked all the way to the shelf.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: The encyclopedia isn't going to have parent information what you're
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: talking about.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: I have a team that comes in and updates them
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: every every two hours.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Wow. It's a busy team.
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: A lot of writing in the margins.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: So the elections are happening, That's where I was going.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And in the run up to that, Twitter has decided
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: to fire pretty much the entire team that is responsible
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: for like stopping misinformation from being spread on Twitter.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: I love it, love it, love it, love it, love
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: it more.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: It's a way that was a waste of resources. There's
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: no information on Twitter exactly.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's no such thing as misinformation on
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Twitter anymore. Is kind of the problem.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Like, ah, comedy is legal on Twitter though.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: True? Are you both going to keep using it if
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: they start charging?
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Will that be?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: If it?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: If it, if you have to pay for it no
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: matter what? Yeah?
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Usually not, absolutely not.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I I like.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Three times a day I consider deleting it, and I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: going to At some point I.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Considered, but I have long since decided that I am
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: just gonna be one of the rats on the sinking ship.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still have it, I just don't use it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: By the way, follow me on Instagram at Adam Todd
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Brown for updates on this podcast and all the others.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Because here's the thing.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I can't keep a social media account going for every show,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: like are you me? Like I just follow me like
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: their network like they're all my podcasts of cohed. I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: don't have to set up a fucking social media for everything.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: But also, I'm not on X or Twitter. You're on
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Blue Sky though, right I am on blue Sky.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: There's just nothing going on over there.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if you love disengagement.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: For you, I kind of do love it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: It is kind of my favorite app that I have
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: now because I mean, it doesn't haunt my dreams.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure so. And I know even if I like
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: tweet or sorry skeet like the best possible thing, it's
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: it's gonna get like, you know, like one repost, maybe
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: six likes, like last night I skated the new Fraser
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: is gonna suck motherfuckers.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Oh did you know what?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't get nearly the reaction something as provocative and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: timely as that would normally get.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. H what do you do? You?
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: Is it still just called liking or is it? I
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: don't know else do you?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's jizzing, it's skeating. You post something and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: then there's resked.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Instead of going viral, you get bockied.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get your stomach pumped.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, George Michael, Uh well.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm older than you, so my my frame of
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: reference is Rod Stewart. That's where I.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Don't know if George, I don't think I don't know
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: if that's an older reference than George Michael, is it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I guess it's slightly older.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rod Stewart, And I was I.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Was thinking of Rod Stewart because I don't think that
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: was a George Michael.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, in peace, George Michael.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I love you, George out here.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Catching strays from conspiracy to show.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I love you. The pictures of you cruising
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: in the park bathroom are iconic.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: I really, I just liked it and re skeated.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: Good because you know what I'm you know what I'm
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: fucking tired of.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: I'm tired of people acting like Kelsey Grammars cool and
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: it's fun to celebrate Kelsey Grammar.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Fuck that guy's piece of ship. Are people doing this?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: People on ironically, you know, like we love Fraser.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: It's just because I do love Fraser.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: I just don't want Kelsey Grammar getting any more work.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's kind of an asshole, right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's like he's a far far right nutcase.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: And also.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh and we let her come back.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but then the show killed me off and continue
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: the show without her. Yeah, she went right back to
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: the fucking shadows.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Uh. You know, here's the thing about Twitter firing all
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: of its election misinformation staff. You're sorry, might be what
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: we were talking about, is they had to do that
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: because otherwise it would be the first time that the
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: owner of a website got kicked off for spreading misinformation.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Like they just had to get rid of them, otherwise
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: they'd have a real problem.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: So it's I'm sorry, I really brought it down by
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: bringing us back to time.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Sorry, we're having so much fun.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I don't we're riffing on Frasier and Blue Sky.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they they fired everyone responsible for fighting misinformation
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: on Twitter. The people spreading it all have TV shows
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: on Twitter now.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Because it's a it's a fascist ground.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: And it's a right wing website.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: And my favorite thing to do on Twitter is to
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: watch videos over thirty minutes long. It's the best place.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: To do that. Yeah, And like I talked shit, but
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm still using Instagram, and like Facebook was
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: causing genocides and.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Facebook is not clean of all of this.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that when people were trying to get zuck
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: and must to fight.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, don't give a ship. I hope they kill each other.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be now that I would watch that,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I would pay a little pay per view.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I would would be I would skate that, I'd all
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: over that. Yeah yeah, I would skeat and is it honestly.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And then I would re re put I'm
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: trying to think of a sexual thing for for retweeting,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: but I can't.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: There's nothing, no platform.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: It was God, it was good for a while. As
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: much as I hated it always I always hated it,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I did like it a lot.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah. All these people who got fired
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: are in Europe though, so.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, well fuck them. Yeah, they get like five months
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: of free vacation.
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: They don't even know what an election is over there.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they all got kings.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And ship This is what really happened to these people.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And I know the like right wingers. I don't know
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: if they would admit it or not, but these people
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: more than got fired, they got canceled. Because what happened
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: is this guy named Aaron Rodericks posted on LinkedIn that
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: he worked for X and he was hiring like eight
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: people in the run up to the twenty twenty four
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: election to you know, police for misinformation on the platform,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: as was his job, and right wingers noticed this post
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and started an online harassment campaign against this guy that
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: ended in his boss, Elon Musk, siding with the people
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: who started the online campaign and agreeing that this guy
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: should be fired. He even posted a thing where he said, oh,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: you mean the election integrity team that was undermining election integrity? Yeah,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: they're gone. And that's the thing. Like these right wingers
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: started claiming that this guy was like working with the CIA,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: yes on the twenty twenty four election, and Elon Musk
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: listened and was like, you're right, I'm gonna fire that
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: whole team. They got canceled by the crowd that is
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: so adamant that you can't just cancel people for well use.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: No one loves canceling people more than the right. That's
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: that's always been their game. That has always been their
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: favorite thing to do, is chase people out of public
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: life and to.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Cancel entire communities.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, exactly, am a graphics.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is always only when they're like, oh,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: they he's conspiring with the CIA to you know, help
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: the left, the liberals or whatever, you know.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Like leftist organizations.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know, if I've ever said this on this
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: podcast before, but right wingers are so fucking stupid. They
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: don't even know who is on their goddamn team. They
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: are just they're just so mad and dumb that they
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: just fucking hate regardless of if people are serving their interests,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: like the CIA.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: So much of the fuel of in the engine of
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: fascism is just this desperate insecurity and need to be.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: Liked by like, and that's what Musk is doing here.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: He's just sure.
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: He just oh, this is what they want me to do.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: This is what he is.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: He is so pathetic. He is such a pathetic specimen
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: of humanity.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: I don't understand how is there a board, Like how
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: has he not been removed yet?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's how it works. But I don't know.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, he what's he got to get removed
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: from owning the company?
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Didn't he speak down as CEO?
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah he's not the CEO. Well, yeah, Linday Yakarino
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: is the CEO.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah that.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I don't even think of Elon Musk when I think
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: of X now.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: There was actually speaking of Linda Yakarino. This is a
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: little bonus story.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: What a fun name.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I know it's great. She was in the event where
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: she brought up Elon Musk and everybody booed at him. No,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: it was would anybody not want to work with Elon Musk?
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: And then a bunch of people raise their hands and laughed, Yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: What did she think was gonna happen? Like everyone was
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: going to be like, oh, fuck, yeah, I've worked with
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you own Musk.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I think yes, that is what she thought.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, as we keep seeing in the comedy world,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: a lot of people will work with literally anyone that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Is, I'm sure, but comedians are not really people. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: there's that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: But also even if you put comedians in that in
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: such a low stakes opportunity, to take that stance like
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: it's one thing, true, Linda Yakarino is asking you the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: question at an event, It'd be another thing if Elon
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Musk was in your face waving like five million dollars
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: in it, then it might be a different answer. But
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: in that environment, of course, people are gonna be like, nah, fuck.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: If Musk wants to give me five million dollars right
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: now to say I like him, I will say that
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: I like him. I am not that principle and that's
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: an easy give. That is the easiest give I have
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: ever given.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: See how about you? How about you Andy?
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: How about you Andy? Five million dollars.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: It's pointless to even do these because that's okay five million, Yeah, sure, five,
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: that's literally seven.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm just gonna say it, but I use
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: that five million dollars to I would not. But also
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I hope this makes its way to Elon Musk and
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: he gives you both five million dollars.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Please just give me like two point five like.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Exactly, yeah, two point five.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: That's chump change.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you can. I mean, you're not gonna have
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to pay taxes, are you? Well, gift tax? Probably?
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Sure, but that's fine. That's still plenty of money.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: Oh wait, there's taxes.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah then no, yeah, oh okay sure.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: And it's not because less money. It's the principle of
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: taxation is well, of course, read the federalist papers.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: All right, federalist papers, exactly, all right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna believe it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Update on one of my least favorite conspiracy stories of
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: all time. Oh yes, right wing judges are now using
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the Ivermectin controversy to silence the FDA at least they're
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: trying to, and even then they're not really trying that hard.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Don't let this headline alarm you too much. Sure come
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: acrossed it. I've said before that I hate the way
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: we covered the ivermectin story, Like as a society, I
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: think I think our side went a little dangerously toward
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: almost like promoting the idea that you could use the
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: horse version safely, because like all the jokes around Joe
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Rogan were like, oh, he's taken horse drugs. Well, his
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: followers are going to see that and see that Joe
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Rogan was fine, and they're gonna go ooop, I can
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: take the horse drugs. And no, Joe Rogan wasn't taking
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the horse drugs. Granted he was taking a drug that
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: didn't work to write fight COVID, but he was taking
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: a human version of the drug, horse drugs.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: The fact that it's horse that hanging clinging onto that,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: it's almost like that the Attorney General saying brainwashed, where
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: it's like, sure, this is hyperbole, you're stretching it for
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: the joke. I get it, it's funny, But also the
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: important thing to hear is not that it's a medicine
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: for horses, but that it's what en anti parasite.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: It's like a deworming kind of drug, right, yeah, idah, and.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: It's one it won like a Nobel Prize.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: It's an interesting drug.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: It's human use like, it's not a drug that has
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: never been used. Well yeah, no anything.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, parasites are gnarly.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: We need drugs to parasites for sure, but it just
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: that's what the drug is for, not for respiratyl.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, we don't want to we don't need to
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: religate the entire thing. But it did have some interesting
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: use cases outside of parasites, but nothing that was nothing
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: that would make you think, oh, this will also cure
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: my COVID.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah. A lot of times that's true.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: A lot of times pharmaceuticals do have like you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: they're being developed for one thing, but they have other uses.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: That are that are more util usable.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like, it's a fascinating drug with a good, interesting history,
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: but unfortunately not what people were taking.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: And it sucks that it didn't work because it's very
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: cheap and readily available, which is why people were looking
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: into it. But yeah, the way it was reported, like
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Andy said, people could not let go of the horse
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: drug aspect, and that's kind of what this lawsuit with
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the FDA is about, because at one point during all
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: of this, the FDA tweeted a thing that was like
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: stop it, you are not a horse, and like with
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: hashtags and yes, probably this stallion emoji or something.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: The awful trend of government agencies tweeting, yes, which just
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: needs to stop.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: And well they got the idea from corporate brands, Well
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: they need to stop to Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: So the thing is, it's fine if the FDA wants
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: to tweet, like that's as bit of a way to
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: get information out as any especially at that point in history,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: but just don't be all social media cute about it.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: That's I guess that's what I mean. Really, Yeah, that's
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: support that sucks.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Like I'm just the FDA tweeting a gift of the
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: fucking guy with the steering wheel, and I think you
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: should leave with like anctin.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: Like photoshopped over it. That's what the FDA is doing.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the FDA does not need to clap back at anybody.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: The needs to issue warning, the needs to administer food
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: and drug exactly.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Approvals and information not and that's wind flame wars and.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: That's kind of what this lawsuit was about.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: There were these three doctors who had been prescribing ivermectin
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: to treat their patients. And again that's like if you
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and your doctor talk about it and you go for it,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: like that's.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: That's fucking up to you.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And their whole thing was, well, we lost our jobs,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: we lost all our credibility because people thought we were
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: prescribing horse drugs. They were like, we were not prescribing
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: horse drugs, and like the FDA did issue a separate
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: statement that was like, well here's why you know. The
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: human version isn't really gonna help either. But like when
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: they posted that, they did like the horse joke thing
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: too right, And these doctors were like, you fucking wrecked
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: our careers, which probably not true, but they sued in
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: that case got thrown out, but then it got picked
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: up by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, which sounds
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: like it needs its own sitcom. Like they just sound
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: like a haphazard bunch of right wing lunatics.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Colonel Clinkshit.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Like they're just firing off the craziest opinions knowing someone's
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: gonna be like fucking no undo that that thing you
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: just did, like that just happened recently. They issued some
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: ruling and like immediately had to come back eight hours
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: later and be like, just kidding, that's against what we did.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: And so they picked this case up. And that's kind
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: of their argument is that, well, the FDA can like advise,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: but they can't recommend. They can't like tell you to
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: stop taking a drug, which is in effect what they did.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: They said stop taking ivermectin and made it seem like
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: it was a drug strictly for horses. So the appeals
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: court picked that up. But also again, this is a
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: is a wacky bunch and all they really did was
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: send it back to the original judge. And we're like, okay,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: but what if you thought the twenty twenty election was stolen?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Would that would that sway your opinion at all? Like
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: what if you think Jesus appointed Donald Trump as our
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: forever president? Then would you maybe rule differently? Like I
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: don't know what they're fucking expecting. No judge is going
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: to get this from these people and be like oh yeah,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you're right.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, oh yeah. The the organization that was created
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: to tell people what drugs are safe to take, and
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: what drugs are not safe to take.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: They can no longer do that, right, Yeah, they can't
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: tell you. They can tell you if it's safe, they
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: just can't tell you not to take it. I mean,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: I'm fine if it's safe.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: I'm fine if the court comes down back with a
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: like okay, but like, don't meme it anymore, all right, right,
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: not you're not the federal dunking administration.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: If the ruling comes back as you're no longer allowed
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: to tweet through it, then I'm fine with it. Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because that is legislation we need. I've said
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: it before. The minute Obama tweeted we as a nation
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: the worst, we should have taken to the streets and
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: been like nope, yeah, no, president doesn't get to talk
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: to us that way.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: No politicians Honestly, as much as I like AOC or whatever,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: like I don't need any of them to have Twitter accounts.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we were like, oh, well, Bama's the social
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: media president. Now Trump's the social president.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's the real social media He's like if
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: social media became president.
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: Guess what. It's not a public utility.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: It's a private corporation, which means it's going to amplify,
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: not the not the egalitarian voices no speaking of I
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: remember when f the f d A had Tignaitaro's Twitter
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: and they were supposed to give it to me, and
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: they they gave it to Dave Ross instead.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, I've never had Twitter.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: That kind of falls on Dave for not sending it
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: over to you. Yeah, well he don't know better.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: He'd already promised it to Obama, so and.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: All he's and all he tweeted was what day is it?
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: It's a real deep.
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: Dave Ross stands. Who listen?
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love Dave Ross.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: He's part of that twenty sixteen Chicago Cubs world.
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: Also, you can't forget his Dancing with the Stars stint.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Right right exactly.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I've I'm totally out of step
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: with whatever you guys you're talking about.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I am too, Like what Dave Ross?
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Are you talking?
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: Comedian? Dave Ross, the comedian Dave Ross, not the Chicago
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: Cubs catcher.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: He's still he's their manager now yeah.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's as far as I'm concerned,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: the Cubs existed as an organization until twenty sixteen.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're doing all right, this year, we're in
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: the playoff. Hunt got some some young rookies. Yeah, it's fine,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: that's for another podcast.
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's I don't even like sports.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Me either.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: Well, we're talking about again Jeff Ross.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Well i'll tell you once Ross. So yeah, let's talk
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: about one last story that also serves as a reminder that,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes some people just shouldn't talk, like yeah,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: some people just should go somewhere and like shut up forever.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: And I think Giuliani qualifies as one of those people.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: Remember for like a week when we thought that guy
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: was just gonna melt.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember. Remember for a week when we thought
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: he was going to save America.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: No, I don't remember that.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: I actually don't remember that one.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: I mean nine to eleven, he was pretty popular.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: He was very popular in two thousand and one.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. But yeah, he's hit the
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: point where he should probably shut up. Now he's getting
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: sued by Hunter Biden, someone who, to his credit, I've
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: never heard him talk.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I don't know anything about that guy other
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: than what right wingers say.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know what is not true about him. Yeah,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: all I know about Hunter Biden is what right wingers
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: steal from his computer, which.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Or allegedly, speaking of.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: That, Rudy Giuliani is being sued by Hunter Biden because
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Juliani broke into Hunter Biden's computer or someone working on
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Juliani's behalf hacked into Hunter Biden's computer and stole a
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: bunch of data from him. And here's the thing that
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: is a crime. It's just usually pretty hard to prosecute
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: because you don't really know who did it, Like there
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: might be a digital trail of some sort, but people
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: who are good enough at it to do that aren't
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: going to leave a ton of evidence under a week.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: So to actually get caught doing that, you have to
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: do something like, say, go on an episode of your
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: podcast and hold up a laptop and say this belongs
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: to Hunter Biden and then drag for a few minutes
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: about how you copied all the data from that computer
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: to your own computer, and then you're gonna want to
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: upload that to Apple podcast Stitcher. That's not a thing anymore.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: You know, all the hosts like all the platforms, so
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: people hear it, and then you can be sued for
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: breaking into someone's.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: Com You know, I gotta say, this is an interesting
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: way to learn that Rudy Giuliani has a podcast sounds
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: like a fucking nightmare.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Jesus America's mayor live.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Fuck off. There's no way that's live. No the hell.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: If it is, and you're able to call in, Oh boy,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: would I like to call in?
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Well that should be an episode, definitely.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: And that is exactly what he did.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: He went on his podcast and was like, ah, Hunter
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Biden's laptop, see and so take me alive. Say Biden's
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: suing him. And here's the thing, like, fuck both sides
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: of this story, Like, Hunter Biden can burn for all
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I care. I'm sure I.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: Don't give a fuck about Hunter Biden.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: Biden is the Marie Antoinette of our time.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Like, look, the only thing, the only time I would
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: ever care about Hunter Biden is if he's passing the blunt,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: that is it.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, Look, apparently he's got a lot of
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: porn videos of himself. Uh cool, Yeah, that's all right. Sure,
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: he's he's attractive.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: You can get the Hunter.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: He's look as Sean Williams Scott character.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: He's he looks like my old boss at Playboy, Like yeah, oh.
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: Really, oh shit, yeah, he just you know, he's yeah,
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: fuck him, Like I'm sure he's an asshole. I'm sure
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: he's an asshole. I'm sure if I met him, I
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: would hate him. But also like anytime his name comes up,
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: I can't help but be like, poor kid, never had
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: a chance.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: No, and like and look, you know, I don't like
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: the guy. I don't really care about him one or
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: the other, but you do make a good point at him,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: and that if this were done, like Don Junior is
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: just as much of a criminal as Hunter Biden or
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: maybe more. And that guy and that guy was on
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: every goddamn news network and non Twitter and everywhere, talking NonStop.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: And I will take Hunter Biden over that shit any
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: day of the week.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Like Hunter Biden takes pictures of himself smoking crack.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Crack.
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: This is what I'm saying.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: You gotta love it. Crack holds. I think the lone
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: distinction of being the one drug that it's still not
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: cool to you is true. You could tell someone you
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: tried heroin and they're gonna be like, oh shit, what
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: was it Like if you tell them you smoked.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Crack, they're gonna be like, you degenerate, fucked.
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: This is how you know is because there's no songs
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: about how great doing crack is. Like even crack songs
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: crack raps, they're about selling crack, they're not about doing it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah it's true. Yeah, they're still crack.
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: Even meth is sexier than crack.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Even The Wire was more about heroine.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like yeah, the only cool.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Shows about crack are the ones about how the c
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I a solder.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: Ye I was just thinking about Snowfall, yeah, exactly.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Which is just like a mainstream TV show and is
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: still in business. Yep, great, they're not canceled.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So, Hunter Biden, how do we feel about the laptop story?
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like it is a mix of fact and fiction.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that they found some ship on Hunter
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Biden's laptop, but I also don't think the laptop that
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: was taken to that store was Hunter Biden's laptop.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, I definitely don't think the blind pawnshop guy.
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: It's like.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: It's not an accident that they just like they didn't
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: just stumble upon the one semi blind, right wing leaning
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: computer hair shop in the Northeast exactly, laptop off and
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: go hello, I am Hunter Biden. I'm never coming back
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: for this like what the fuck? And yeah, people ask
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Juliani to just well, like, you know, show us, show
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: us the evidence you have against Hunter Biden. I say
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: it all the time. His response was no, because you'll
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: just try to debunk it.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: Well, yes, exactly exactly, like.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: Any you know what if you fucking got me, rudy,
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: Oh how just.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Sniff out my liberal agenda kind of verify that outlandish
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: claims about a person or true.
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: Uh yeah, Like my main takeaway from Hunter Biden left,
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: I was like, don't give ship whatsoever could be true,
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: it could be false.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Who cares?
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: The only reason I would give a shit is because
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: it means that like, if he gets away with this,
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: it's like, well, truly there's no filter.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: I mean there obviously already wasn't one. But like, it's
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: not so much that I worry about Hunter Biden.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: And his security. It's like everybody else that this could
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: be a precedent for if like but also it's definitely
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: not his laptop, like at least the one Julian holding
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: up that's a prop.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Probably probably, but he did admit to a crime on
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: a on a recording, and yeah, if that ended up
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: with if it ends up with Rudy Giuliani going to
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: prison or suffering some sort of consequences. I would go
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: into that.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: That would be preferable. Actually, yeah, yeah, I can't. I
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: can't even say, oh, I don't care if he goes No,
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: I want him to.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: No. I would like for him the motherfucker. Yeah, I
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: would like for him to suffer. That would be good.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: And you know what, it's also fine that Hunter Biden
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: might go to jail.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Sure, I don't really care. This is the whole right
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: wing thing where they think that because they would be
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: scandalized if like Don Junior was sent to prison or whatever,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: and they would be up in arms that we would
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: be up in arms about Hunter Biden going to prison,
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: when that is just not how people on the left operate. No,
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: that is literally just it's the same with all the like,
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: how would you feel if a remember a congressman that
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: you cared about was in this scandal and it's like,
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: well fuck him?
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, you know how I've slept like a fucking
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: baby since Al Franken left town.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: I like him a shit.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, what if Clinton was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Well fuck him, he should fucking burn in hell.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Jesus well, or even like anytime, you know, like Tucker
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: Carlson where it's like, oh, yeah, you're gonna cancel Tucker.
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: Let's see what you'll say if we come for Bill Maher.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Please, I always love that one.
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: Please, we'll tie him up for you.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: It's very funny that they think our version of Tucker
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Carlson is Bill Maher, and I guess they're I guess
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: they're not wrong, Like I guess he's kind of what
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: it is, but it really says more about Tucker Carlson
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: than anybody else.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems so confusing because like, I don't think
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: our side wants a Tucker Carlson, but we have, and
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: it's Bill Maher.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, and we don't like him.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well I don't even think he's he's not I
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: don't consider him our side because he's well, he's basically
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: a right wing but.
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: From the but from the liberal moron, classical liberal.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fucking mouth breathing right wing pieces of ship.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah all right, I think we did it. That's our episode.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: You know everything they need to know now?
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, are well equipped to handle the world.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody tomorrow when you're chit chat and someone says
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: the word conspiracy. Now you got something to talk about.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the new Fraser, you can tell them it's gonna suck.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the new Fraser will suck.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: But people don't have water coolers now, they're too busy
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: being on their fucking phone.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, millennials. Millennials killed the water cooler industry.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: Avocado phones.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: Nobody wants the water cooler anymore.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, in their defense, I did try the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: water cooler app and it's pretty fucking great.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, I mean it rules.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: It's like the water like you can fit like five
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: gallons in your phone.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: How how crazy?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: It's crazy?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: So thank you both for doing odd. Uh what do
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: we have to plug before we get out of here?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I have a show November tenth at the Sardine and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: San Pedro. I'm on the lineup, Connor mcspadden, Lindsay Adams.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: We're all doing comedy and then there's gonna be bands
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: after Danger. Van Gorder and countless thousands are doing a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: set and then, uh, you know some other bands your
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: eyes peeled for that. Tickets will be on sale soon.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: I love other bands.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, other bands are great, but so is countless thousands
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: come see them.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I only like countless thousands. I do not like
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: any other bands.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Andy. What do you got to plug?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: Look good for the boys? Same thing I plug every time.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: We're in season six. Now we're taking a little saw
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: to see through the Saw movies. And that's that's what's
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: going on with me. Might have some other stuff up
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: my sleeves, but at the moment, that's it cool.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm on x dot com at hyderhid but
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: I would just like to take this moment to to
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: personally shout out whoever spoofed my debit card and went
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: on a four thousand dollars gasoline shopping spree through the valley. Stop,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: please stop. I'm really sick of spending every morning on
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: the phone with Chase getting your ship reversed, So please
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: stop stealing my money. I don't have very much.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: That sucks.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: The valley, the valley where the whole hermano.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: Are they getting out to?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Encino, north Ridge, Chatsworthino, Carson yea, oh.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Gosh, just buying gas everywhere.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: Or you know, and it's expensive, like getting two hundred
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: dollars chargers at the time at multiple gas stations yet.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's like a ring.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: It's it's yeah, it's something that's gotta be.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it probably is.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: It might be shouldn't have gone to the you know,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: the Liquid Zoo or whatever I was gonna say.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: There was a four hundred dollars charge from the Liquid Zoo.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: That's really that was what it was.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: All right, Talmo, Talmo's got your card, and uh I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: think that's it.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Stop using Olivia's debit card.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: Please, please, please, please.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: And goodbye everybody.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: We love you.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: Bye bye.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: People of a you're trying. It just has to be
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: destroying
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: To be extroy