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Ep. 115. Amy from the Kickass Women of History podcast! · Vigilante Vibes Podcast

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  Hello to all the comic fans, Marvel geeks, and all the nerds
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  in between. Welcome to another episode of
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  the Vigilante Vibes Podcast where we talk all things Marvel
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  along with the other fandoms, but without the toxicity that's
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  taking up way too much space in each and every fandom.
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  I'm your host, Megan Nicole and I have a very special guest.
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  Her name is Amy. And we are going to talk about
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  kick ass women of history that are Amy's choice.
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  So I'm very excited. Thank you so much for being on
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  with me today. Thank you.
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  For the invitation. Yes, of course.
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  Why don't you tell our listeners a little?
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  Bit about you right? So I have my own podcast, Kick
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  Ass Women of History, which explores the lives of women who
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  deserve to be better known. So they can be from five years
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  ago or 5000 years ago, anywhere in the world, just women who are
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  traditionally left out of the historical narrative.
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  So that launched in January and I've been really lucky.
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  I've had guests from around the world talking about some really
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  amazing women and I've learnt so much just from hearing them talk
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  about these these people they've been researching and they're
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  really passionate about. That's amazing.
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  I love that so much. So what are what are a few women
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  that you are that are just like your guilty pleasure to talk
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  about? That are the ones you just can't
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  stop yourself, that get brought up all the time.
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  Oh, so, and actually this is a bit of a coincidence because
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  it's the episode of the show that's going out this week is
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  about a Mabel, a woman called Mabel Baltrop, who founded a
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  religious sect in Bedfordshire in the UK called the Panacea
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  Society. And they used to send out little
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  one inch strips of cloth that people could soak in water to
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  create a cure all. They thought it would cure all
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  diseases, they thought that their gardens and their grounds
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  were the original location of the Garden of Eden and really it
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  was just lots of middle class ladies being being very nice and
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  drinking tea. And it's the most British
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  religious sect that has ever been, but completely
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  matriarchal. They really believed that
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  salvation and the the way to heaven was through through women
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  and that the second coming of the Messiah, the Messiah, new
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  Messiah, would be a woman. Yeah.
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  Crazy, but yeah. So you said that you had some
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  kick ass women of history to bring up today.
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  Why don't we talk about them? Yes, so I thought I would talk
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  about the comic series that got me into reading comics.
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  Yes. Yeah, so I am a fantasic, which
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  I don't know if that's a time you've come across.
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  And I cannot say it is. So if I were to say to you,
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  close your eyes and picture a beach and the waves lapping on
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  the show, can you see that? Yeah.
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  Yeah, I can't. So there is a number of people
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  out there in the world who don't have a visual imagination and
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  it's only really in the last 20 years been identified as a
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  thing. We all just thought you were
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  talking metaphorically. We didn't know you could
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  actually see things in your head.
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  What this is a thing? This is a thing my.
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  Gosh, I had no idea. Yeah, so there are people out
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  there who don't have in the monologues, and there are some
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  of us out here who don't see things in our head and can't see
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  in pictures. And for me, that always made it
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  really hard to read comics, which was so annoying because I
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  am such a geek and multifaceted geek and I wanted to read
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  comics. I loved watching Spider Man
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  cartoons and Adam West Batman running around and so I wanted
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  to read comics but just couldn't get on with them because I
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  couldn't cope with that visual medium.
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  Wow, this is really mind blowing.
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  What? What?
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  Oh my gosh. Yeah, there there will probably
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  be a number in your audience of people going, wait, people can
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  see stuff and yeah, and as well as the rest of you going what
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  you can't see. But yeah, it's a thing.
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  Wow, this is wow. Yeah, so I could never really
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  cope with comics until I was working on a women's history
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  project in probably about 2018, and it was exploring the history
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  of women's lives in the county of Essex here in the UK and my
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  husband happens to mention in passing, Well, do you know a lot
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  of Marvel characters come from Essex?
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  What, don't don't all Marvel characters come from New York?
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  Spider Man and everyone else, they're all running around New
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  York. And, and so I looked into it and
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  yes, they do. And I thought, well, there was
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  an Avengers film coming out at the cinema.
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  And I thought, OK, well, why don't I write A blog post for
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  the project about some of the women from Essex in Marvel, and
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  then I can put it out on our blog on social media and maybe
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  get a bit more attention for the project because that's what you
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  do. I do the hustle.
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  And so I thought, well actually if I'm going to do this, I'm
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  going to need to read one of these comics.
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  So I got hold of Captain Britain and MI 13, and it was just so
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  exciting to me and so interesting to me, having
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  watched all all the Marvel films with his very American heroes,
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  to have this core of very British characters running
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  around my country and doing all these superhero things.
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  Wow. And yeah.
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  And there's one character in particular, Faiza Hussain, who
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  is Excalibur. And I thought that's who I might
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  talk a little bit about today. Yes, I would love to.
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  I think Excalibur was the first comic I ever read was an
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  Excalibur comic, so I am so excited to hear all about it.
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  OK, so MI 13 is a government department for British
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  superheroes. So a bit like you have MI 6IN
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  James Bond with all the spies and you have MI 13, which is the
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  superheroes? Yes, and it is led by Alistair
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  Stewart, which is a character that Marvel may have lifted
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  quite blatantly from Doctor Who. They tend to do that, just ask
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  DC. Yeah, So I think Marvel had
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  rights to publish some Doctor Who comments comics back in the
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  day. And this somehow became a sort
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  of crossover character. So in Doctor Who, who's Alastair
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  Lethbridge Stewart in Marvel hits Alastair Stewart and
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  Stewart spelled differently, but he he sort of run runs this
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  department. And you've got all of these
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  British heroes in it and led by Captain Britain, which is Brian
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  Braddock, who he and his twin sister Betsy Braddock are both
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  from Essex as well. And Betsy is one of the X-Men.
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  Yes, just the interconnectedness of all things Marvel.
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  And and yeah, this this series, which I think was originally
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  supposed to tie in with Secret War.
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  So it's all about the scroll invasion.
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  And it creates this new character, Faiza Hussein, who is
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  from the city of Chelmsford in Essex, but of Pakistani descent.
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  And she is a doctor. And through her encounter with
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  the scroll, she ends up with the power to rearrange living things
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  on a subatomic level, which makes healing them as a doctor a
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  lot easier because she can just take people apart, fix what's
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  wrong, put them all back together without it causing any
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  issues. So great power to have about if
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  you're going to be a superhero and a doctor.
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  And it's really refreshing to read about her because she is a
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  Muslim character, but it's not her defining characteristic.
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  It's part of a well-rounded personality.
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  So you don't really get that representation very much in
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  fictional characters for a British Muslim, Muslim
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  character. And as she what is probably her
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  defining characteristic, apart from her medicine and her her
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  love of science is she is absolutely cricket obsessed.
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  So I know that Brits have this, you know, stereotype of you all
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  being cricket. But actually for for her coming
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  from Pakistan, which is another cricket playing nation, it makes
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  sense. And she follows the the county
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  cricket team, Essex and crickets.
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  And so when she comes up with her superhero costume, the Essex
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  badge, which is 3 swords and on a crust, that is a significant
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  part of her costume because of her love of cricket and her love
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  of her county. Wow this is so cool, I didn't
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  know that. So she's a really interesting
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  character and across the MI 13 run, you have got the this sort
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  of wide range of characters that are meeting.
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  They work with Blade, they're taking down vampires, they've
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  been taking down the scroll. So there's lots there that could
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  be mined if Marvel want to make a series out of it.
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  Hint hint if you're listening. I don't think anyone would be
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  against it. No.
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  So yeah, we've got our own heroes over here.
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  So obviously you had Kit Harington in the Eternals being
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  set up to be the Black Knight and that everything's gone
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  silent. Yeah, they want us to forget
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  about that movie so bad. I loved that movie.
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  I did too. I loved it, was a beautiful
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  movie. Yeah.
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  And I think that's one of the things I like about Marvel as a
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  studio is that they do experiment and they try new
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  things, and some of them will reach a big audience, some of
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  them might not. And does that really matter?
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  And it really annoys me when you get this sort of toxic fandom
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  complaining about things that actually not everything that
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  Marvel produces has to be for you.
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  Yeah, exactly. There is, you know, a wide range
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  of different people who love superheroes and love these
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  comics. And not everything has to appeal
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  to everyone. And you can pick and choose what
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  you're interested in. And if Miss Marvel or She Hulk
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  or whatever isn't your thing, that's fine.
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  Just don't complain about it. Let the people who would be
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  interested enjoy it and you go do your thing with Iron Man or
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  whatever. Exactly like with an incoming
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  Iron Heart series, there's so many people who are like, who
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  asked for this. And I'm like, well, I did.
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  Just because you didn't ask for it doesn't mean no one else did.
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  And the trailer is fantastic. Isn't it though?
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  My goodness. Yeah.
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  So for MI 13, do you have any fan casts in mind for like
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  Captain Britain or anyone? Oh, now this again comes back to
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  the a fantasy, because it's really hard to sort of pick.
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  Oh, that's. Right.
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  But oh, who could it be? And would would you go for
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  having the twins? Could you have Brian and Betsy?
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  Who would be a good double cast for that?
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  I always thought, I think the world thinks that Henry Cavill
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  is the right choice for Captain Britain.
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  Yeah, I think he would be perfect.
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  But like, isn't it like a little too on the nose?
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  Yeah, he is very sort of clean cut, which is why he was such a
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  good cast as Superman. Yeah, even though, and I know
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  that it's the the wrong fandom. No, you're fine.
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  I like DC too. That movie was so boring.
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  Which one? Superman.
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  Which one Man of Steel? Oh yeah.
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  I really enjoyed it, but I am a sucker for an origin story.
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  I have heard a lot of people say it was boring and it's like
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  that's OK, I get it, I totally get it.
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  But the new Superman? Yeah.
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  That looks good. Yeah, I'm, I, I'm struggling to
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  get excited, I think just because Christopher Reeve was so
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  good. Yeah.
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  And then we've had all and we've had all these, you know, quite
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  entertaining fun TV shows where you had, you know, Dean Cain in
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  the 90s, you had Smallville, you've had Superman and Lois
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  recently. So you've got all of this.
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  Do we really need another Superman?
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  Does anyone care at this point? I think so and.
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  Especially with the characters that are in the movie, I think
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  will lead to more for like Hot Girl or Guy Gardner.
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  It seems like they're putting him in there just to lead to
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  lanterns and all that. So I think it I think it makes
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  sense. I think it's going to be the
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  thing that the movie that kind of is like the bud and then it
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  just kind of flowers out for DC. Yeah, no, it will and it will be
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  great and I'll go and see it with everyone else.
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  But I get it. I'm sure it's another Superman
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  movie. I get it.
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  Yeah. And you know, we all probably
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  did that a little bit when the first time when Tom Holland was
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  first nuts as Spider Man. Do we need another nut Spider
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  man? Any spider man?
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  I didn't. I am.
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  I have Spider Man tattooed on me.
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  I am obsessed. I'll take whatever you give me.
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  But I did feel that way. Every time there's another
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  Batman, I'm like, do we need another one?
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  Can we take some time apart? I mean this.
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  I am going to get so much Flack for saying this publicly.
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  Adam West, the best Batman. Adam West?
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  Really. Well.
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  He did amazing. In the UK they used to repeat
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  Adam West Batman every school holidays in the 80s and 90s so
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  it would be on. Our school holidays are a bit
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  different to yours in the States, so we get in the summer,
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  we only get six weeks. Oh.
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  But we get more off. We get 2 weeks at Christmas, we
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  get 2 weeks at Easter and we have sort.
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  Of two weeks on Easter, we get nothing.
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  And we get 331 week holidays dotted in between them all as
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  well. So we get probably about the
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  same amount of holiday generally, but it's more spread
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  out. Of course, the yeah, which is
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  nice. But yeah, for the six weeks of
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  the summer holiday, you would have Batman every day for
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  entertaining the kids at home. And so, yeah, we all grew up
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  watching it. And because I didn't read the
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  comics and didn't have the sort of The Dark Knight, the brooding
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  hero that he is in the original source material, to me, Batman
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  is running around in tights with how splat.
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  Kaboom. I think every iteration of
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  Batman brings something so different to the character.
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  I mean, one of my favourites is Robert Pattinson.
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  And I get it, Like not many people were like, Oh my God,
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  he's amazing. But I was like, that's, that's
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  Detective Batman to me, that I like that.
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  So I think it's really what you're into.
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  But they all did a really amazing job.
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  Yeah, that had to waste the bats.
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  Oh, I didn't. I'm learning so much today.
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  That's so cool. It's so exciting.
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  But yeah, anyway, fan casting Captain Britain.
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  Oh, oh, what about oh, I've forgotten his name?
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  Thomas. Oh, little actor.
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  Guy was the little boy in Love, Actually.
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  Oh oh Dang it, now I need to. Know bro, bro.
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  Yeah, you know who I mean. Yeah.
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  I'm looking it up. I know that little bastard's
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  name. Thomas Brody Sangster.
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  Yeah, that could be quite an interesting.
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  That wouldn't be bad. I I am curious what they're
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  going to do with him because he's like, he's like right
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  there. He's not doing anything, you
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  know, So like, yeah, might as well.
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  For Betsy, it really depends on who's Captain Braddock.
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  But I mean, you could really go anyone with her, like Ella Hunt,
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  Amelia Jones. I would for both of them.
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  I want a really unknown actor or more underrated.
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  So I think your idea for Captain Britain makes the most sense.
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  And it's and the reason that so many British actors get cast in
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  Hollywood is you can get someone who's well established and
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  trained over here but isn't known in the States.
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  So they're cheaper. Are they cheaper?
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  Is that really why? I mean, like, sometimes I think
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  it's probably like every few weeks I kind of sit to myself
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  and think, like, man, British people are better at being
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  American than American people in movies.
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  Yeah, they're just cheaper. Oh, I didn't.
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  Well, you guys also are doing better.
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  Like Charlie Hunnam. The thing that I would do for
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  that man, I am obsessed with him.
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  And I found out like a year ago he's British.
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  I had no idea, no idea. I thought in King Arthur he was
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  just that good of an actor. So.
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  No, no. But that we've got a lot of them
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  that, you know, out there flying under the radar.
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  Charlie Cox, really, He really confused a lot of people when
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  Daredevil bored again came out. Yeah, and he suddenly got a
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  British accent in the interviews.
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  Where did? That come from they're like,
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  what is he doing? Is this like an acting thing?
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  No, he's British. Come on.
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  Because. He and Andrew Garfield were
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  roommates as students. And Robert Pattinson, all three
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  of them. Yeah, that, that is a house I
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  want to visit. So yeah, Batman, Spider Man, and
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  Daredevil all live together. It's so weird we got to get
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  Robert Pattinson somewhere in the NCU.
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  Although does he would he want another franchise after Batman
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  and Twilight and Potter? He's he's done a lot of of
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  those. He doesn't seem to enjoy it.
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  I don't think he enjoyed Twilight.
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  He loves being Batman, but I think he's as frustrated as the
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  fans are because we're not getting the Batman too.
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  There's no way it's happening, and if it does, I'll eat my
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  words. But it's not happening.
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  So I think he's frustrated by that.
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  But just because a an actor is cast in the MCU doesn't mean
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  they have to be a hero at all. You know, like there are side
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  characters that aren't heroes, like Ned Leeds or Aunt May, that
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  kind of thing. So I think I would rather see
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  him as like a human character, not like a superhero character.
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  Yeah, that could be interesting. Yeah, I feel like they don't do
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  that enough. It's like Martin Freeman in
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  Black Panther. Yes, exactly.
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  Like we need more of those characters, those stabilizing
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  characters, grounding characters.
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  Yeah, another Brit playing an American.
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  Yeah, see, I had no clue and I watched all of Sherlock.
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  No clue. I was just like, what a good
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  actor. He really nails the accent or.
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  He was in the original British office as well.
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  Was he? Yeah, he was the he was the
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  strong Krasinski character. I think it was the same.
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  Was that him? Yeah.
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  Oh my gosh, another thing I learned today, I watched like 2
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  episodes of the British 1 and I was like you know, I've seen
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  like the whole American episode and it's like line for line the
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  same. So like, do I really need to
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  watch it? Fair enough.
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  Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's so cool.
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  Yeah, you British people are just kind of taking over.
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  And I'm OK with it because, like, Americans aren't doing
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  that great. So by all means, play Batman,
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  Adam West, Batman every single day.
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  We're we're good. Yeah, same same bat time, same
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  bat channel. That's what they that's.
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  Yeah, that's what used to say. They used to say in the sort of
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  dramatic bit at the end of the episode where it'd be Batman and
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  Robin hanging on to a Cliff or or something in here or about to
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  be cut open by a giant wheel thing or whatever was happening.
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  TuneIn necklace. Same Bat time, same Bat channel.
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  I want to be British. But that was in the American,
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  that was in the original videos that were being 0.
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  Yeah, that wasn't our. Announcers, they're not that
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  exciting. Oh, well, never mind.
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  I still kind of want to be British, but never mind.
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  You guys just kind of seem like you're just having a good time,
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  you know? And I want that.
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  Well, you know, see what happens with with this this MI 13 series
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  that we're pitching. That's true.
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  This is you. Practice your accent, you never
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  know. One time me and my best friend,
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  we talked for an entire weekend in a British accent because
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  we're like, I bet we can do it. And for an entire week we could
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  not stop. Like we were thinking in this
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  accent and we're like, we're screwed.
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  This is it. This is who we are now.
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  And I think about that a lot because I'm like, I should have
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  just kept going with that confuse everyone.
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  So yeah, that's a little bit about me.
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  I think The thing is America obviously is enormous and has
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  lots of different accents. So we over here, we tend to talk
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  about American accents, but not really differentiate in our
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  heads between the Southern accent and the the city accents
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  and the fact they can be so different because it's just that
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  sort of Hollywood standard that everyone speaks.
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  But it's the same here in the UK, except we're a much smaller
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  country. So it's you can go half an hour
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  down the road and some will have a completely different accent.
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  Yeah, I've seen that before. I'm a big UFC fan, so there are
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  a lot of fighters there that are like, I'm from the UK.
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  I'm like, Are you sure? Are you sure?
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  Because you sound very, very different from the others.
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  And it's kind of wild because there's so many different
• 25:29
  accents from such a small country.
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  And and then within the the sub countries.
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  So if you, instead of thinking about the UK as one big country,
• 25:40
  if you think about England, Scotland, Wales, Northern
• 25:42
  Ireland is different than in Scotland.
• 25:45
  Somebody in the Highlands will sound different to somebody from
• 25:48
  Edinburgh, from different from someone from Glasgow, and
• 25:52
  someone from the Welsh Valleys will sound completely different
• 25:55
  to somebody from Cardiff. So yeah, we're a country of many
• 26:02
  accents and dialects. Do you guys ever look at
• 26:04
  someone's accent and you're like.
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  Oh yeah, that red we've got. We've got horrible stereotypes
• 26:12
  about accents from different places.
• 26:15
  So that's a worldwide thing. Beautiful.
• 26:21
  So back on to kick ass women of history.
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  We talked about MI 13. Was there any distinct female
• 26:31
  characters that you want to see be brought into onto the big
• 26:36
  screen, or have they already been brought there?
• 26:38
  Who are your favorites? So I've talked about Pfizer
• 26:42
  Hussein, who would be fantastic. We've talked a little bit about
• 26:47
  Betsy Braddock, even though she's not in MI 13, she's just
• 26:50
  MI 13 adjacent, yeah. She's invited to the party, but
• 26:54
  she's not sitting in the meetings.
• 26:56
  Yeah, yeah, trying to think. So there is Megan, as well as
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  one of the baddies. Yes, from Excalibur.
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  Yeah, it'd be interesting. She would be very interesting to
• 27:16
  be to be brought like in live action.
• 27:20
  That would be insane. Yeah.
• 27:22
  And you've got this whole Arthurian mythology, which,
• 27:27
  although it is an actual history, has influenced our
• 27:31
  history so much because people did believe those myths for
• 27:36
  centuries. And it's those sort of ideas of
• 27:39
  courtly love. And that storytelling is really
• 27:42
  interesting to explore as well. Yeah, sorry, my daughter's just
• 27:49
  making animal noises in the other room for some reason.
• 27:57
  Yeah, that I would love to see her brought in because just
• 28:03
  bring all of Excalibur, adding Kate, Kate Pride, Nightcrawler
• 28:09
  with them, that oh, how much fun would that be?
• 28:12
  And taking it back so old school to the comics that just that
• 28:16
  would sing to my heart. Yeah, you could have a lot of
• 28:18
  fun with that. I think it would.
• 28:23
  Creating a sort of British Marvel verse could be really
• 28:27
  interesting because it wouldn't have to attach to the the MCU,
• 28:32
  which is getting very big and very convoluted.
• 28:35
  It could exist in its own bubble and do its own thing and then
• 28:39
  characters be brought over to America or the American ones
• 28:42
  popping over to Brenton as the story works.
• 28:46
  But you're not having to shoehorn in if you have it as a
• 28:49
  separate strain. Belly well, I agree.
• 28:53
  I think it'd be pretty cool. I mean, why not?
• 28:55
  There's so many British characters you already they had
• 28:59
  like their one token British character who was Peggy, Peggy
• 29:04
  and they. We absolutely love always well.
• 29:08
  They. Agent Carter deserved at least
• 29:11
  another series. I liked Agent Carter and Marvel
• 29:16
  was like, we have a British character, so you know what
• 29:19
  we're going to do? We are only going to use this
• 29:22
  one British character. It's like no one asked you to do
• 29:25
  that, though. You could have just given us a
• 29:26
  little bit more. My goodness.
• 29:30
  And I did like the what if around Peggy Carter with her is
• 29:36
  Captain Britain. That was that was fun.
• 29:38
  I was very confused about how they did that because usually
• 29:42
  the what if comics, they're not all connected, they're just kind
• 29:46
  of off the wall ideas. But with this one, they brought
• 29:50
  it all together with Peggy being the the constant of each one and
• 29:55
  that was very confusing, but I think they pulled it off really
• 29:58
  well. Yeah, and it was nice to see it
• 30:01
  in live action as well with Doctor Strange.
• 30:04
  Oh yeah, for for the littlest time we got.
• 30:08
  I know they really did waste that because you had you had how
• 30:13
  you had John Krasinski is it's fantastic, which we'd all been
• 30:18
  yelling for for fan casting. So for so long and like they
• 30:22
  didn't have to do that. You could have just let him
• 30:25
  live. He had said he had kids.
• 30:27
  Like this is rude. Yeah, they all have to die.
• 30:32
  Apparently she could have just not done it, just left the
• 30:36
  universe. But whatever, Wanda, it's fine.
• 30:39
  Do your thing. So this has been so much fun
• 30:45
  with you. Thank you again for coming on to
• 30:47
  my show. I've clearly learned so much
• 30:51
  from you. It's it's, it's going to be some
• 30:54
  of these facts that I just keep telling my friends over and over
• 30:58
  and like anyone that will stop and listen so I sound smarter.
• 31:01
  So thank you for that. Sorry for spinning the show off
• 31:04
  on so many tangents. That I love when people do that.
• 31:07
  I cannot stick to one subject. I feel like podcasting, you're
• 31:12
  supposed to talk and talk and talk, and I loved it.
• 31:17
  But oh, can I just bring one more thing up to pick up my my
• 31:20
  poor little country? We've just had confirmation that
• 31:26
  Jessica Jones is coming back. Do you know about the Jessica
• 31:30
  Jones novel where she comes to Essex?
• 31:33
  No, in the UK. No, I don't.
• 31:36
  So last summer there were a series of novels published that
• 31:44
  seem to each one be about one of the defenders and they were
• 31:50
  written by well respected other authors.
• 31:55
  So it was Lisa Jewell, I think, right, The Jessica Jones one
• 32:00
  who's the British writer. And yeah, she comes over to
• 32:05
  Essex. It's called Breaking the Dark
• 32:07
  and it's a really good read. But it is very odd because it
• 32:11
  does start in New York and it is the Jessica Jones that we all
• 32:14
  know from the comics, from the Marvel series.
• 32:17
  And yeah, she's in a relationship with a cage sort of
• 32:22
  and all of those things. But then, yeah, she she gets a
• 32:25
  case that involves her coming to the UK to just solve it.
• 32:31
  Oh I did not know that. I'm going to check that out.
• 32:34
  I freaking love Jessica Jones. I know it's because I I wouldn't
• 32:39
  normally picked up it because I love the character so much and
• 32:42
  it's all came up on my Amazon Kindle recommended reads.
• 32:46
  Thanks. OK, it's on offer 99 P.
• 32:49
  I'll get that. They know how to get you with
• 32:51
  those recommendations. My goodness.
• 32:55
  But yeah, I'll definitely check that out.
• 32:56
  That's really cool. OK, so I will stop, stop talking
• 33:00
  now. You're.
• 33:01
  Fine, so where can our listeners find you?
• 33:06
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• 33:13
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• 33:18
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• 33:26
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• 33:32
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• 33:34
  Yeah. Yeah, so wherever you're
• 33:38
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• 33:40
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• 33:44
  find Amy. So again, thank you so much for
• 33:47
  coming on. This was so much fun with you.
• 33:49
  We have to do it again. Oh absolutely yeah.
• 33:54
  Swap nights on on a future heart or something.
• 33:59
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• 34:07
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• 34:09
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