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Let the Healing Begin 3-1-26 | 1st and 3rd Sunday at 8:00 PM EST on the Da Crew Podcast Network · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Here in this place we hungry, band are hearts away?
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  Speaker 2: Speak to us now.
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  Speaker 1: There is no time here, only your press show us
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  Speaker 1: your glow.
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  Speaker 3: Speak to us.
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  Speaker 2: Now speak to us now. Why here in this.
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  Speaker 4: Place squee.
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  Speaker 1: A hot way way speak long. There is no time,
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  Speaker 1: only your prayers space. Speak to us, Holy speed, Holy Spirit,
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  Speaker 1: Home Spirit.
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  Speaker 5: Hearing said, be hamed about a hat.
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  Speaker 6: Lady, speak to us now there is no chalgy, only
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  Speaker 6: pass this s steaks.
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  Speaker 5: A speak to us and we.
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  Speaker 2: Need to here.
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  Speaker 6: Was you she just shuttle the world to.
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  Speaker 4: Speak of?
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  Speaker 5: Wasn't speak to us now?
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  Speaker 4: It's not good. God read.
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  Speaker 5: Red we wen We send your br.
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  Speaker 7: Waiting all. Marriage isn't always perfect, but healing is always possible.
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  Speaker 7: Welcome to Let the healing begin. With your hosts Apostles
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  Speaker 7: Lee and Kimberly Thomas. This podcast tackles real life is
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  Speaker 7: Shoes with raw truth and a powerful his and her perspective.
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  Speaker 7: We talk marriage, we talk sex, We talk lost love
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  Speaker 7: and relational challenges. Couples don't always say out loud. If
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  Speaker 7: you're ready for honest dialogue, faith filled insight, and a
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  Speaker 7: practical wisdom that restores connection and strengthens your marriage, you're
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  Speaker 7: in the right place, Come journey with us as we
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  Speaker 7: let the healing begin.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good evening, Good evening, and welcome to let the
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  Speaker 2: healing begin. We are your hosts, Apostles and Kimberly Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: We are so grateful that you have joined us here tonight.
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  Speaker 2: We endeavor to give you an open, honest conversation dealing
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  Speaker 2: with marriage and all the things that it encompasses. As
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  Speaker 2: a disclaimer, we do not claim to have mastered this
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  Speaker 2: thing called marriage, nor do we have the monopoly on marriage. Well,
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  Speaker 2: one thing that we do have is we have a
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  Speaker 2: marriage We have experience, we have time, and most of all,
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  Speaker 2: we have a mandate from the Lord to share what
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  Speaker 2: we have endeavored and what we have noticed in marriages
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  Speaker 2: through our journey as a married couple and as those
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  Speaker 2: that counsel those who are preparing for marriage and who
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  Speaker 2: are married. So tonight we are here to let the
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  Speaker 2: healing begin. So we're gonna get started tonight. If you
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  Speaker 2: joined us last week, one of the things that we
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  Speaker 2: talked about last week was the fact that marriage is
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  Speaker 2: not attacked from the outside. First, it comes from within,
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  Speaker 2: and it happens because of weaken weaken and avoidance. Avoidance
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  Speaker 2: weakens our marriages because we do not want to confront matters.
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  Speaker 2: So anytime we avoid being healed, it weakens the marriage.
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  Speaker 2: So just know that marriages aren't attacked first from the outside,
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  Speaker 2: They come from within. Attacks come from within. So we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get started tonight. We're going to jump back in.
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  Speaker 2: Last week, we talked about this. We talked about the
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  Speaker 2: fact that there are so many different things, so many
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  Speaker 2: different aspects to this, the unresolved conflicts, the unresolved hurts,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about unmet needs. We talked about a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff last week. So we're gonna get back into
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  Speaker 2: this because this was truly a hot topic and we
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  Speaker 2: are want to get started tonight. We are going to
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  Speaker 2: jump in and talk about the fact that there is
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  Speaker 2: instability in some of our marriages because of failure to
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  Speaker 2: express our feelings.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yes, it's a lot of failure because we tend
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  Speaker 8: to hold on to what we think well destroy what
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  Speaker 8: we're trying to build. And that's the beginning of the
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  Speaker 8: end of a relationship, and it starts killing the healing
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  Speaker 8: because when we enter into a relationship, which is be wholeheartedly,
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  Speaker 8: one hundred truthful, and if you're going to be truthful
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  Speaker 8: first of all, first and foremost, you should be truthful
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  Speaker 8: to yourself, you know, because if you start off telling
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  Speaker 8: a lie, you're got to continue telling lies. You know,
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  Speaker 8: you can't start a relationship thinking that you know, well,
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  Speaker 8: I better not say this because I want them to
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  Speaker 8: feel this way or that way. And in essence, if
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  Speaker 8: they don't know, you're lying, you're cheating, and you're holding back,
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  Speaker 8: and you're not being fair to them or yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that is so true, because one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I have noticed is the fact that many times
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  Speaker 2: we assume that our partners know our true feeling, they
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  Speaker 2: know how we feel, they know what's going on with us.
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  Speaker 2: We even assume that they know us. But the real deal,
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  Speaker 2: the nitty gritty, the hard truth, the naked truth, is
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  Speaker 2: they don't. They don't. And the reason why is because
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  Speaker 2: we never took the time when we were dating or
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  Speaker 2: getting together to really get to know each other. We
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  Speaker 2: just wanted to get right down to business and get
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  Speaker 2: busy with it, and there was no conversation. There was
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  Speaker 2: no conversation, and so it takes communication, and many times
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  Speaker 2: in our relationships. Starting out in relationships, people fail to communicate,
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  Speaker 2: They fail to communicate because you know, they're looking at
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you know, you may be a three B.
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  Speaker 2: You got breast, booty and brains, and that's all they
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  Speaker 2: that's all they thinking about. Then I think about anything else.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's it. It's no communication. It's just like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: here we are, let's hook up. And for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people right now, you know, just talking to young
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  Speaker 2: people right now, a lot of people are not even
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  Speaker 2: into relationships. They're not into that. They just want to
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  Speaker 2: hook up, and so there's definitely no communication in there.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I've talked to several young men and
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  Speaker 8: you know it's hit it and quitted. But when I
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  Speaker 8: spoke to the young women, it was the same thing.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I see what I like, I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 8: what I want. And then after that, I'm gonna ghost you.
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  Speaker 8: And I was like, wow, you're gonna ghost them? What
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  Speaker 8: you mean? Oh, I'm done with that. So you know,
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  Speaker 8: it's not like when we started out. You know, the
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  Speaker 8: man chased the woman, and the woman if she wanted
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  Speaker 8: to be chased, she just dropped the nugget here and there.
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  Speaker 8: Now it's just like, what's up, we're doing this? It's
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  Speaker 8: old wed I'm holler at you, oh, and then let
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  Speaker 8: me tell you, boy, I want to get at it.
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  Speaker 8: And I was like, you know, really kind of flowed
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  Speaker 8: for a minute, but I had to really listen to
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  Speaker 8: what they had to say because they were being real
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  Speaker 8: and how they feel and the things that they have
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  Speaker 8: seen throughout their life, that short life, I should say,
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  Speaker 8: of coming into what you call adulthood. And when I
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  Speaker 8: spoke to them on the level where I was at,
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  Speaker 8: they was like, well you old though, and I was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 8: so therefore every day you're not getting older. But yet
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  Speaker 8: when you get older, you don't have a man your age.
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  Speaker 8: You want to a man my age, because now you're
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  Speaker 8: looking for a stability.
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  Speaker 2: Daddy, and you know that's something. There are lots of
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  Speaker 2: those that are happening. But the thing is, we are
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  Speaker 2: missing the tightest two women. The We're missing the women
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  Speaker 2: that teach you know how to be chasing and how
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  Speaker 2: to really keep yourself so that you would be fit
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  Speaker 2: for the king that God has for you. The Bible
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  Speaker 2: tells us that he who findeth the wife find it's
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  Speaker 2: a good thing.
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  Speaker 8: With the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not about running behind anybody or chasing anybody
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  Speaker 2: but you know, I heard a wise woman, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say wise because she is very wise in
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  Speaker 2: her years. And there was one thing that she told
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  Speaker 2: me about some things that you know, some women they're
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  Speaker 2: looking for a fireman, and I was like a fireman.
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of lost, y'all. Sometimes I'm just sometimes
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  Speaker 2: my age show up. I may not look it, but
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  Speaker 2: it shows up because when they say certain things, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what does that mean? But she went on to explain
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  Speaker 2: to me that many women are not looking for a commitment,
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  Speaker 2: they're not looking to settle down. They just want a fireman.
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  Speaker 2: They want somebody to put the fire out and be
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  Speaker 2: on this way. And so that's what we have to understand.
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  Speaker 2: We're missing a lot of the older women that were
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  Speaker 2: there to teach us, to teach my generation. We're missing
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  Speaker 2: those because when you look at the family dynamic, you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at grandmas who are maybe thirty years old. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: then you're looking at great grandma's that maybe forty five,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so it's starting out younger and we're missing
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  Speaker 2: we're missing those wise women. We're missing those tightest two women,
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  Speaker 2: the women that would tell a young girl, look, you
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  Speaker 2: don't wear a white dress without having a slip on.
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  Speaker 2: You know those type of women. You don't chase a man.
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  Speaker 2: You let a man chase you those things.
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  Speaker 8: Now, when you said something about that slip, I heard
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  Speaker 8: one time you were asked, what's that? And I'm looking like,
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  Speaker 8: you don't know what the slip is? But you know, hey,
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  Speaker 8: the day in times because a lot of times our
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  Speaker 8: children or our youth are being taught about the things
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  Speaker 8: in which they see. I was watching television the other
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  Speaker 8: day and there was a man and a woman on there,
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  Speaker 8: and she really wanted to get with the guy, but
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  Speaker 8: she wanted to make sure her de order was straight,
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  Speaker 8: she said, And I got to put this on so
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  Speaker 8: maybe I can hook that baddie over there. So she
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  Speaker 8: bought him a drink, so you going after him. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 8: they got the game twisted. It's all backwards. But nothing
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  Speaker 8: for that. We know about that crazy And let's talk
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  Speaker 8: about healing for a senior citizens. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 8: because that's where we're at right now. You know, you
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  Speaker 8: can put your comments in, but what I'm saying is
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  Speaker 8: simply this right here. What about some of the men
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  Speaker 8: that's been out there and they chased a woman, and
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  Speaker 8: they had women to chase them, and you know for
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  Speaker 8: a fact that she want to be with you, so you,
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  Speaker 8: like like a vacuum cleaning, you suck on her drive
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  Speaker 8: for everything you can get so you can get with
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  Speaker 8: this other one that really don't really want you because
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  Speaker 8: she sucking you dry to get everything she can get
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  Speaker 8: out of you so she can get with him. Let's
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  Speaker 8: talk about that right there.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of that happening. And you know, one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that I really think is there is
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  Speaker 2: a lot of instability in relationships because you see the
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  Speaker 2: outer appearance many people and it comes from lack of communication.
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  Speaker 2: Because you'll look at an outer appearance of someone and
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  Speaker 2: you will misjudge them because the package is not raped
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  Speaker 2: pretty and it doesn't have this glittery wrapping paper. The
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  Speaker 2: bowls not tied correctly. It may be a little shabby
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  Speaker 2: tied bowl, look like somebody just learning how to tie
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  Speaker 2: their shoes or something, and you will dismiss it. Many
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  Speaker 2: people that know us have heard our story of how
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  Speaker 2: when Apostle first began to pursue me, I was managing
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  Speaker 2: a convenience store and he would come in and the
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  Speaker 2: work that he did. He would always be dirty and
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  Speaker 2: you know, just talking and I'm looking like this dirty
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  Speaker 2: old man, what go home? And you know, and he
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  Speaker 2: would say. He said to me one day, he was like,
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  Speaker 2: do you know who you're looking at it? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: uh no, and he said, girl, are you looking at
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  Speaker 2: your husband? I'm like, what what else? Mister? Go ahead
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  Speaker 2: with your dirty self because I'm not I'm not on that.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what we do. We don't realize that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: God has someone for us because we come with our unrealistic,
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  Speaker 2: oh well, expectations of what the man should look like.
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  Speaker 2: We we want it all together. You know, he needs
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  Speaker 2: to be tall, he needs to be hands we gotta
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  Speaker 2: be buff, he gotta be both that. He got to
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  Speaker 2: be this, He got to be that. We put all
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  Speaker 2: of these stipulations and these false realities out here, and
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  Speaker 2: then when God has sent the one that he has
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  Speaker 2: already ordained us, we dismiss it because it does not
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  Speaker 2: look like what our perception says that this should look like.
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  Speaker 2: We're not even trying to have a conversation. We're not
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  Speaker 2: trying to have no conversation. We're not trying to give
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  Speaker 2: you no kind of indication none whatsoever. Bruh, No, you
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  Speaker 2: are not the one. And I'm not gonna stand here
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  Speaker 2: and try to hold no conversation. What's your name? You
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  Speaker 2: can't even get my name?
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  Speaker 8: So in other words, again you're lying to yourself exactly
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  Speaker 8: because you won't. Mister look so good, smell so nice,
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  Speaker 8: and on a scale from one to ten, he hitting
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  Speaker 8: the whole fifteen, and then that's only in your mindset,
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  Speaker 8: and he got a whole zero going on. Now here's
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  Speaker 8: a man job corp established the home stability. But because
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  Speaker 8: he does this type of work, that's not for you.
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  Speaker 8: But what happens when you get with this man and
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  Speaker 8: you find out it's the total opposite of what you thought.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't find out because you never give it
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  Speaker 2: a chance. Sometimes you miss the opportunity and you see
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  Speaker 2: him on the love boat with somebody else and you
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  Speaker 2: be looking like, well, dog, you know, and then you
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  Speaker 2: want to give him the time of day because now
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  Speaker 2: you're looking like, oh, you know, bro, he was he tightwork,
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  Speaker 2: he cleaned up well. But now he's moved on. And
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  Speaker 2: so this is the thing. This is where communication comes in.
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  Speaker 2: And what we have to understand is as apostles said,
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  Speaker 2: we gotta first be true to ourselves because we may
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  Speaker 2: not be all of that, we may not look like
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  Speaker 2: all of that, and so we want to put all
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  Speaker 2: these great expectations on somebody else. But then we're not
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  Speaker 2: even thinking about, you know, our own perception. We're not
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  Speaker 2: thinking about you know, how we are portraying ourselves. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: we can be the prettiest thing in the whole room,
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  Speaker 2: but really be the ugliest because of our attitude in
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  Speaker 2: our disposition.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, I'm glad you went there, because here's the thing.
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  Speaker 8: You want all those things, all these attributes, but are
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  Speaker 8: you willing to give those same attributes. That's where I'm
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  Speaker 8: at with it, you know. Okay, you want all that.
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  Speaker 8: I can supply all that, But why do I have
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  Speaker 8: to bend over backwards to do it? And then once
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  Speaker 8: I do this, why is there no reciprocation? Well?
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  Speaker 2: No, and okay, let me let me let me deal
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  Speaker 2: with it this way.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, let's do this.
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  Speaker 2: Because there are a lot of women who are in marriages,
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  Speaker 2: and when the man is providing and doing all these things,
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  Speaker 2: that is the expectation of that woman. The expectation is
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  Speaker 2: this is what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: do all of these things. And when time comes and
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  Speaker 2: something changes, you know, life starts lifing and things begin
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  Speaker 2: to change, and he may not any longer be able
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  Speaker 2: to do those things. Then there becomes a problem. There
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  Speaker 2: becomes a problem because now you want to throw it
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  Speaker 2: out here that you're ahead. You're supposed to be the provider.
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  Speaker 2: You're supposed to take care of me. I'm not supposed
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  Speaker 2: to do this. I'm not supposed to work. You're the provider.
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  Speaker 2: But what we fail to realize is, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: where's the reciprocation. Reciprocation comes from help meet the one
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  Speaker 2: that God created, the woman to be help meet. That
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  Speaker 2: means that I'm supposed to help meet the spiritual, the emotional,
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  Speaker 2: and the physical need of the one that God has
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  Speaker 2: given unto me. I am the help meet. So therefore,
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  Speaker 2: what you are given to me, I'm supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: able to meet your needs in those areas. But so
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  Speaker 2: many times those needs are left unmet because of our
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  Speaker 2: unrealistic expectations. Some women want to be able to sit
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  Speaker 2: home and do nothing, do whatever they want to do,
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  Speaker 2: however they want to do it, and however long they
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  Speaker 2: want to do it. Some women want to be taken
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  Speaker 2: care of fully, you know. They want they don't want
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  Speaker 2: to have to work, they don't want to have to
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  Speaker 2: do any thing. They want a maid, they want all
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  Speaker 2: of these things. But then there are those that are
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  Speaker 2: willing to get up and help. Because when you're sitting
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  Speaker 2: and you're expecting the head to be able to handle
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  Speaker 2: all of these things, and when the load gets heavy
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  Speaker 2: and the ship begins to rock or teeter, if you
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  Speaker 2: don't help, we all falling out. We're all going overboard.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, so we gotta hold it down right, Okay, not
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  Speaker 8: in that because I got some questions. So now that
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  Speaker 8: he's meeting the needs and he's doing all these things,
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  Speaker 8: why is there rejection in the bedroom? Like that's the
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  Speaker 8: if you don't do this, you definitely ain't getting that
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  Speaker 8: deal with that. Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Women, you sex uh huh as a bargaining chip a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times. Yeah, And like you said, if you
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  Speaker 2: don't do this, then you don't do that. You're not
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  Speaker 2: we're not doing this. We're not gonna do this if
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  Speaker 2: you're not doing that. So if you're not able to, uh,
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  Speaker 2: bring the money, put the money here on the table, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: If you're not able to do all of this if
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  Speaker 2: you're not able to, you know, allow me to shop
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  Speaker 2: at NeiMa markets anymore. I can't do that. I can't
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  Speaker 2: drive the bens no more. We had to let the
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  Speaker 2: bens go. I'm now, I'm I'm still driving. But it's
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  Speaker 2: just not a BNS. So you know, if we if
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  Speaker 2: we can't do all of that, then no, the bedroom
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  Speaker 2: action is that's that's just that goes down. But see
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  Speaker 2: that is you that really okay? Let me just let
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  Speaker 2: me just be real because I'm like tap tapping around
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  Speaker 2: what i really want to say because I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: say it in a nice way. But when you utilize
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  Speaker 2: sex in turn for anything, that's called prostitution, whether you're
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  Speaker 2: in a marriage or not. So therefore, if the man
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  Speaker 2: cannot come in there and lay the money on the
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  Speaker 2: table and the sex is off limits, that's what prostitution.
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  Speaker 2: That's what prostitutes do. If the man, if the John
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  Speaker 2: ain't giving up no money, he not getting no honey.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: So that's the same thing, and we have to just
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: call it what it is. Whether it's in marriage or
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: whether it's on the street, that's what it is. When
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: you're using sex as a bargaining chip. That is not
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that's not how that's not how marriage is designed. First
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: of all, if you really want to know how marriage
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: is designed, that when you become one with your spouse,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: whether husband or wife, you belong to them, all of you,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: all of you belong to them. The Bible tells us
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: that we should not give a foothold to the devil.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: And that's why so many marriages are messed up because
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: we don't have sense enough to understand that sex is
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: not a bargaining chip because you know what, if you
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: don't do it, because he's not able to do all
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: of these things. Baby, let me tell you something. I
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: bet you there's somebody out there that's waiting and he
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: ain't gonna have to do nothing. Show up, but show up.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: That's it, Betty Wright, say, you know we're not leaving.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: No room for because you're a woman. I'm sorry.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: We're not doing that. We're not doing it. And if
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: you have to hold it down in your household, that
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: ain't nobody's business. That ain't nobody's business. Girlfriend, your beff,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: your bestie or whatever, that's nobody's business. Because you know what,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you may be mad with him today, and y'all make
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: up tonight. But you then told Bessie bff and girlfriend
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: all your business, and now she mad. She beat you,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: getting mad because you was mad because what he wasn't doing.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: And you know she's getting she giving advice, and she
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: doing all these things. But when you and your husband
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: get back together and y'all on good terms, Bestie's still
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: looking cock out at it because of the simple fact
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: that oh, yeah, yeah, I oh, I know. You never
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: give anybody any ammunition against your maid. It's something that
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Apostle always says that I'll never give anybody anything to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: watch my wife face with. And that's the same thing
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: that women should be saying about their husbands. I will
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: never give anybody anything to watch his face with. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: will never make him feel that he is less a man,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: regardless of what he can or cannot do. We can't
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: do that. We can't and and let me just let
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: me do this because this is just here right now
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: because of the simple fact that we're talking about the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: fact of how marriage is and how sex relates to marriage. Biblically,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the only time that you should refrain from giving yourself
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: to your spouse, husband or wife is if you have
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: an understanding and you're fasting m.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: So we have to have that communication like that.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Otherwise you don't. You don't give the devil a foothold.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: You're not supposed to, but we oftentimes hear that it happens,
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: and that's that's not biblical. But at the same time,
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: that's not letting the healing begins, especially when you want
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: all these different things out of a relationship and you're
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: not giving all of you in the relationship, you know.
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: So we've covered the tit for tat far as sex goes,
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: But how do you get to the point of actually
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: just telling the whole truth? When do you get there?
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: You know, because some people are ashamed to tell the
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: truth because I know when I was with her or
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: with him before you, he acted this way when I
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: said this, he did that, when she said that I
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: did this, he looked at me this way. And the
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: first thing you do, you look at like, oh, I'm
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: not going through that no more. I'm not having that now.
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: It makes one or the other shut down, and you
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: got that dull moment. Because I love you, I don't
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: want to lose you, but I really want you to
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: know this, and I'm hoping and praying that you catch
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: hold to the vision and you don't.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: It takes communication, and really we have to think about
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: think about everything that we bring into our relationships and
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: into our marriages, and most of all the inability to trust.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: That's that's a big part of it, because you come
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: in and as you stay that you come in and
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you're you're still over here with this person because you
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: have not fully dropped them. You're you're still carrying them.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: So anything that looks remotely like what they did to you,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: now your new partner is paying for that, correct and
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: that's not fair. It's not fair to them to have
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: to pay for something that they did not do. And
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: this is the thing, and this is where it's really
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: it makes you really think about it. This new thing
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: that everybody well I'm not gonna say everybody because I
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: wouldn't do this, but the thing that so many people
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that are coupled up are doing this tracking business. What
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the devil if I got to track you? Baby? You
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: keep trucking because I'm not tracking nobody. Why are you
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: tracking people? That means that there's a problem with you.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: It's not a problem with them, there's a problem with you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: You have a trust issue. And then you need to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: be delivered and you really need to be healed, because
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: if you got to track somebody that you say that
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: you're in a relationship with, or you in a marriage with,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: you tracking them for one or two reasons, you're insecure,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: or you tracking them to keep them from catching you.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: Correct, And that's the whole thing. I was talking to
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: another individual and they asked me and it was kind
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: of funny at first until I saw it they were
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: really serious. Because it's not funny. It's not funny. He said, hey, man,
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: I said, yeah, you know how to get this tractor
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: off my phone? So do what he said. Yeah. Everywhere
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: I go, they know where I'm at, what I'm doing,
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: and sometime they can tell me my conversation. I said, well,
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: I'm be honest with you, I'm not that savvy with
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: those phone as far as no tracking, because that's not
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: that's nothing that I do and that's nothing that's being
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: done to me. I said, So what you need to
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: do is leave your phone home or give it back
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: to them, because there's no trust in the relationship because
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: if they have to track you, bro either you doing
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: something or done something that she feels that she can't
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: trust you, and if she can't trust you, you don't
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: need to be with hers, and she don't need to
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: be with you, or she's covering herself so she'll know
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: exactly where you're at. He said, I never thought about it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: I said, I always play at fifty fifty because it's
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: your side, it's her side, and then there's the truth.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: So therefore, the if you constantly arguing every day about
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: this type of situation where you at, how long you're
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: gonna be there where you're going? No, come on now, no,
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: we ain't got to do that. Especially I'm over twelve
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: and I'm past twenty one, so I'm fully grown. So
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: what we have to do is learn to love each
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: other and trust one another until I have to take
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: you at your word, until you show me differently, you know.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: And he took me with him, and when I knew anything, y'all,
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: we all three was together, and I had to take
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: them back where we had been together. I said, good Jesus,
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: I tell him, I say, And he said, y'all, wats
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: hold up? I'm not him, not your husband either. I
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: wouldn't have you here because that's not you know, that's
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: not being a man to me. You know you got
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: trust issues and he do too, evidently because he had
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: to prove that to you. So therefore you ain't grown.
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: You a puppet, and it's not about that. Let's get
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: together and just listen. It's got to be a simple
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: divide sometime, you know, let me miss you a little bit.
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: I'll be glad to come home, because I've been in
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: situations where when I got off work, I looked at
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: the clock and I was like, whoa man, If I
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: go home now, they gonna be there. Either I will
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: get off of forty five minutes to an hour earliest,
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: I'll get miss y'all and be gone. That's a miserable, miserable,
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: miserable life. Or I just didn't come home till I figure,
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: oh they sleep. Now, Lord, I tell all of you
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: out there, don't live like that, because it's not good.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: Learn to love yourself better, tell yourself the truth. Look,
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: it's gonna be this, this, this, this, this is what
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: I want, this is what I like, this is what
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: I don't like. And we can go from there and
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: trust and believe. If they don't hear you or don't
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: want to take it, you're grown. Get you somewhere to
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: be yes, you know, because healing starts with loving yourself first. Yes,
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: telling yourself the truth first. Baby, Look I like this,
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: and this is what I used to do, and this
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: is what I was into. And if she loves you,
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: she goes say, okay, well I ain't into that, but
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: this is what we need to do because this is
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: what I'm doing right. And then here's the thing. You
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: got to trust them enough to know that it's gonna
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: work out. Because relationships are give and take. It's and
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: it guessed what now, it ain't always fifty to fifty.
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: Because I had some friends tell me and say, well,
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: I'm not doing it. I'm in the head. I said, well,
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: you know, it's a natural order. Two things. That's God,
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: Jesus man, then one man. But you know what we
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: in today's society. And simply because you the head, you
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: don't always leave because sometimes you'll help me can get
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: where you can't get. And if you trust her and
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: she trusts you, she can go and open the door
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: for you. But you got to have that oneness, not
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: that dividedness.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, and that is so true, you know, just thinking
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: about the fact that so many people in relationships they
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: have no communication. There's no conversation. They don't even know
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: what each other likes. They don't know what the person's
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: favorite color is. They don't know what the person likes.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: They don't know what's what's their favorite food, what's their
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: favorite place? Do they like outside activities or are they
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: a home body? They don't know nothing. All they know
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: is let's go have sex. And that's not.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Touch like that.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Some of that. But you know, they they don't take
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the time to really get to.
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: Know each other.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: You know, you there used to be a thing that
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: was called according you know, or like the like the
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: young people used to say back in my day, do
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: we go together?
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: Do you? You know?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: The little thing they used to make with the paper
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: where you go with me? Yes or no? You know,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: none of that is happening anymore. It's just, you know,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and it's it's not that even people are no longer
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: they're no longer drawn to a person's intellect or the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: fact that they even have anything up here. They're not
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: drawn to that. They're drawn to appearances. They're drawn to
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to their bodies. That that's all that they're drawn to.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: You're not wrong to anything. You don't know whether a
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: person is an airhead. You don't know whether they even
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: can put a sentence together. You don't know any of that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: And a lot of times they're not even concerned about it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: They're not they're not concerned about it. All they're concerned
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: about is meeting a physical need. They're looking for a
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: fireman or a firewoman, and baby, Hey, once the fire
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: is out, we're good. We don't even have to talk no.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: More that that.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: That's crazy to me, that's crazy.
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: You gotta think now, speaking from a man's point of view,
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: I was one of them, airhead. If she had the
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: nice biscuits and some nice perkis they bad let me
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: holler at you. But then in the midst of all
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: of that, I begin to have a conversation, you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: and the look didn't go with the body, you know,
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: And I found out, lady. In life, you can find
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: some people with all minds and no behind. Then you
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: can get someone all behind and no mind. It's very
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: rare that you get both in the same package, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: most of the time when you do, you mess up
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: being a man, because you know, this here is just
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: too good to be true. But as I got older,
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: I realized I needed both of them because they go
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: hand in hand because you got all behind in no
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: mind after the relationship and the room is over with.
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: Where we go from here? Now, if you got all
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: mind and no behind, you may be a little swifter
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: than I am. And it's all over with for me
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: because I can't keep up, you see. So we gotta
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: get this wonders together. But if it's real, for real,
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: then I can help you. You can help me, and
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: we keep each other sharpen in tune.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Y'all. We gotta take a commercial break, So we're gonna
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: take a commercial break and we're gonna come back because
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: this is really getting good and gooder. We we just
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: we we're trying to unpack it tonight.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: We bring so much into relationships and and these are
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: just real raw truths that people don't want to talk about.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: But we're here for it, all right. We'll be back
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: in just a few moments.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Think think, think.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all would say, hey, hey, so listen, we are
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: really trying to unpack this, and and we want to
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: hear from y'all. Y'all put some comments out there are
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: some of the things that I know we're not the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: only people that have noticed these things. In relationships and
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: in marriages, and you know, these are these are some
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: of the things that are going on. And like I
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: said before the break, this is stuff that people don't
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: want to talk about, you know, especially church people. Church
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: people don't want to talk about stuff like this. But
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: this is what this is what is really needed because
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: we have to train up the younger generation because the
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: way that they are going now and the things that
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: we are allowing to teach them, which is social media,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: which is you know, you you give your your kid
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: a phone at a very early age or a tablet
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: or whatever just to get out the way so that
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: you can do what you need to do. But we
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: still need those titles to women to step up to
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the place. We need the men of Vailor to show
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: these men you know, what it really is. And so
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: this is this is the thing we have to really
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: think about the fact that sometimes we feel that we
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: are unheard and unvalued in relationships. That's right, and so
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: that shuts down a lot of communication because I may
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: try to tell you how I feel, or I may
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: try to tell you something that I'm dealing with, but
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: you know me to be the stronger, Oh you you strong,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you know you kind of brush it off, but you
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: have to understand that we all have our moments.
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: But even in your moments, you have to realize something.
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: Me and and women, you have to still play in
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: your strengths. When I was pursuing you, you stood on
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: solid ground. You didn't allow your self to curve in
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: and just bow down because you know that's my man
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: or that's my woman. No, let's have a conversation, seecause
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: when you let your guards down too far, then you
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: start to be treated that way. People treat you how
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: you allow them to treat you. Now, we started off
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: talking and you had time to talk to me. You
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: had time to spend time with me. You were concerned
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: about my feelings and not my paintings are my drawers.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: Then we were good. But after you received what you
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: were looking for, then that became nulling. Boy, But that
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: was simply because you allowed yourself to fall into that category. See,
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: I always wanted to talk, I always wanted to be
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: with you. But whenever you stop allowing yourself to be
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: warned or needed, then you know what, then I'm going
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: somewhere because you're not showing me that same interest.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's something you know you. You said a whole
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: lot right then, because one thing that it's very true
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: is the fact that when we are getting together, we
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: tend to show that side of us, you know, that independence,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: that strong will and all of that. But then there
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: comes points in our life where once we have kind
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: of gotten in there, or we we feel like, you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: we got we got it on lock, we've locked this down.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Now we step back and we begin to digress instead
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: of progressing, and so we we allow ourselves to.
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: Lose our selves correct and and and that's not his fault,
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: that's not her fault. That's your fault as an individual.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: Because I was with a guy and we talked. We talked,
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: and he was truly upset because his female friend told
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: him he couldn't go get into bed. I said, okay,
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: he said, I don't believe that because my other girl
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: it was cool. I said, But see, that's the difference
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: between a girl and a woman, because she had boundaries. Now,
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: you didn't been to work all day long. You just
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: set over there and ate. There's a bathroom in there,
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: go take a bath, don't just go fall in my bed,
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: I said, But the other one allowed it. That's the difference.
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: In the caliber of women, because you know what, you're
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: gonna be getting a little dirty behind in my bed.
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: I said, you got to think about that. Come on, brouh,
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: you know, give what you want. You know, you want
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: her to smell a nice and looks so pretty and
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: so good. And then yeah, she came in and smelled
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: like a buck barrel or oh my Jesus, wait a minute, baby,
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: hold up, you know, I said, that's the same thing.
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: Give what you want, you know, and then if she
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: allowed you to do that. Now, if y'all was married,
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: that's one thing you tired, I said. But you know what,
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: even in your tie, no, no, go get your man,
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  Speaker 8: get yourself together, because there would be no way that
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  Speaker 8: you would do these things when you first met her.
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  Speaker 8: I tied yours. You wouldn't got fresh. And I sat
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  Speaker 8: on your car, talked and went to sleep. But I
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  Speaker 8: was good. Don't allow your standards to go down, yes,
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  Speaker 8: because if that's what happens, and then all a sudden
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: you start to see somebody that why heat clean up,
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: y'all work together, then why you do it? So it's you.
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  Speaker 8: You have to demand your respect because if you give
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  Speaker 8: it away. Listen, God gives you everything you need. God
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  Speaker 8: gives you your gifts and you and you only can
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  Speaker 8: give it away.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and the thing that we have to realize is
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  Speaker 2: that we are We are two that became one, but
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  Speaker 2: we're still individual. Yes, we still have our feelings, we
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: still have our independent desires, we still have our independent
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  Speaker 2: life and dislikes. So you gotta think about it. There
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  Speaker 2: are things that you like that your spouse does not like.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of times what really begins to deteriorate marriages. Now,
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  Speaker 2: remember we're talking about the fact that the attack does
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  Speaker 2: not come from the outside, it comes from inside. And
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: so what really begins to deteriorate that is because you
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  Speaker 2: become a yes partner and you continue to want to
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: go alone to get along. Sometimes you just have to
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: say no, he liked byina, sa, I don't eat that. No,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want that. No he'll eat peanut butter and jelly.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: I don't want that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want chicken every day. I don't want I
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: don't want that. You have to understand that you have
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: a voice. You have a voice, and you don't have
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: to go along to get along. But the thing is
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: you you don't have to be domineering and nasty. But
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: you can just say, listen, I don't like that. He
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: may like to watch things on television that I don't like.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: want to do that. And you have to learn how
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  Speaker 2: to compromise, how to come together, find something that you
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: both like to do together and do that, and then
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: in your time apart, do the things that you like
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  Speaker 2: to do. As an individual. You cannot be a clone
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to your maid. You are not a clone, y'all were not.
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  Speaker 2: You're not sign these twins. You have a different you
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: have a different opinion of things. You're not always gonna
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: see things out of eye, so you you can't always
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  Speaker 2: be yes yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, no no no, no, that's good no, because here's
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: the thing. It's okay to be a part. Yes we're one,
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  Speaker 8: but we can do things differently. You know, it's okay.
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  Speaker 8: You know how many times have you actually said and
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: you might have said it and didn't think about what
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: you were saying, but you said, you know, if I
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: gotta go, I go by myself. And then the moment
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: that you have to go by yourself, you mad all
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: by yourself, and you mad at your mate because they
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: didn't go. Yeah, we're together ninety nine percent of the time.
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  Speaker 8: But the day I don't want to go, and don't
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: get mad because I decided to say I.
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  Speaker 7: Don't want to go.
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: I don't want to go over there today. I want
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: to lay it right there on the couch and jesz chill.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: You go ahead, And now, well, why don't say why
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: if I told you no, it's just no. Don't try
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: to force me to do something that I don't want
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: to do. And then when I get into it with you,
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: now I'm looking like a star puss because I really
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: don't want to be here. And then look how you
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: was looking. You made me feel something. No, you made
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: hey you feel some kind of way because you forced
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: me to go. But at the same time, I allowed
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: this to happen because I could have just said no,
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: that you manager just mad. But then ask yourself, really,
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: why are you mad? We're outside of these twins. I'm
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: right here. I didn't want to go there from the
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: get go one you knew this, so why I forced
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: this on me? But at the same time, now, don't
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: start one thing and then all of a sudden you
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: want to get out of it now because the same
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: thing it took to get them, that's what it takes
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: to keep them. So if you don't like going these
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: places and you're just doing it to be with them,
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: don't do it, because that's what they're looking for. So therefore,
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: at the beginning of the situation, you done told a lie. Wow.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, Hey, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Remember truth, it's no one true is the.
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  Speaker 2: Open honesty is what it takes.
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  Speaker 8: To be.
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  Speaker 2: We'll destroy the house and h m hm mm hmm,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: WoT to learn how to let the healing begin from the.
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  Speaker 8: End.
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  Speaker 1: M hm.
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: So let's.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: We'll be back on the third Sunday in this month,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: So come back and join us. The third Sunday, I
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: believe the date is the the third Sunday, and this mother,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I think it is the fifteenth. I think that is
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: the day, March the fifteenth. We will be back and
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  Speaker 2: we hope that something that we have said here tonight
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: will help you on your journey as you begin to
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: let the healing begin. So we want to say thank
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: you for joining us, and once again we look forward
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: to hearing from you. Please send us your comments, send
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: us your feedback. We would love to hear from you
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: and we want you to come back and join us as.
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: We let the beg.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Have a great night, everybody, and we will see you
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: later this month, I
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: Tried to find a date, y'all.