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Chasing Flexibility: How Kerry Jackson Redefined Her Career Path - On Her Own Terms · Work It Like A Mum

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  Elizabeth Willetts: Hey, I'm Elizabeth Willits and I'm obsessed with helping as many women as possible achieve their boldest dreams after kids and helping you to navigate this messy and magical season of life.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Hello, welcome to today's Facebook linked in live.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I am chatting with Kerry Jackson, who is a Supermoms alumni and she has retrained from events management into Salesforce, so she has come done a complete career pivot.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: She now works in tech, which is really exciting.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So we're going to be talking all about her experiences of retraining in something completely from scratch, changing career from events management into tech, what prompted that move and how she has found working in tech, working in Salesforce and becoming part of the Supermoms alumni.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Thank you so much, kerry, for joining us today.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Thank you for having me.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: No, absolutely.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I mean, had you heard of Salesforce before?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Obviously, you'd heard of them before you retrained, but you know, were they part of your subconscious when you were working in events management?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: No, I had used different CRM platforms before, but never sales force, and it was not until I made the decision to change and so I actually learned about sales along with learning about Supermoms.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So you know, I hadn't heard of it before.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So why did you decide then?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: What is Salesforce?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I guess people might be watching this and not know what Salesforce is.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And then I'm going to say so.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Here's my attempt at Salesforce as a customer relationship management software solution.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I am that's used by businesses and nonprofits to, I guess, drive their operational activities.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Does anyone from Salesforce watching?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I'm not sure if that's the best definition, but yes, I mean it might not sound most exciting, but yes, sort of them really that, yeah, the customer relationship management platform that powers business activity Brilliant.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So you know why then did you want to move into Salesforce?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: What was it about?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Well, there was, I guess, lots of things sort of in like professional and personal life.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: That kind of all came at one point.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I mean, as I said, I've been in fundraising event management for a long time and I think I knew that I didn't want to do it.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Forever had two small children.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So there was like the point in my life where I definitely knew that I wanted to change my career.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I'd made that decision, I was definitely going to change.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I'd used, as I mentioned before other CRM platforms.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I understood the value of them.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know I quite like operations, I'm quite like a process person.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I started to look in this sort of technical space.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I wanted something that was less stressful than event management and fundraising and sort of something that would be more flexible around my children, and I also wanted something that had lots of opportunities for personal growth.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So within the Salesforce world there's just so much opportunity.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: There's so many different paths that you can go down.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You can go down really, really technical routes, you can go down project management routes, business analysis, consultant.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: There's just so many options and it's just sort of you know it's there, you can learn it if you put the work in.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: The opportunities are there.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: For me as well, I wanted to have opportunity for a greater earning potential, and definitely within the technology space that is available.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I think the tech space is quite an exciting place to be.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: It's ever-tuning, I mean it can be quite overwhelming.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I won't lie, and you know I am by no means a really technical person, but it is.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I'm just saying you were techy, you know, because sometimes you know my husband's a techy like you'll play on the computer.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know, I am not a techy person, I actually mean my husband joke that I'm like no, no, especially now I'm in this career.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: He's like I can't believe you're broken tech.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I'm like I'm software and he's hardware.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know what I mean.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: It'll be like can you fix the TV?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know I'm not.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I am not that person, you know.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So no, you can definitely do this if you're not a technical person.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And then the last thing which was really important to me in terms of my career change was a one or something that I could do really quickly.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know, I didn't have the time or the will to go back to university for four years or the money and we do a degree.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I think you know this one in particular in the Supermum's course, like I started in the February and by the August I had the Sales Force Administration certification.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So you know that was really a big factor as well in the fact that you can make the change quite quickly and comparison, I think, to other career changes.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So there was a lot of factors that sort of were behind the change.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And when I looked into it and find sales force and they go hand in hand with Supermum's, you know just sold it to you then to become a sales force, to reach out in sales force.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: What was it that sold you know what was it about Supermums and sales force sold it to you.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I've spoken with all of those things.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Really like all of the.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know the potential for the different roles that you can bring like industry knowledge from your past career into it that you could do it quickly.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And then I suppose the like, the format of the Supermum's program was very inviting.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know it just like to do things like this on your own is really difficult because there's a platform out there called Trailhead which is where anyone in the world can go on and learn sales force.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: It's a global free platform where you can go and you can work through everything that you need to to learn.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I mean, you'll never learn everything about Salesforce, but you know that's just kind of boring, if I'm honest, doing it on your own and it was everything about the sort of accountability of.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I signed up to a course it was the admin certification and it was like a six-month training course where you had like live content, weekly sessions with you know, a Salesforce trainer.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You had like homework every week you were assigned a mentor and that was that you could obviously go to with any of your problems and they like checked your homework and you could learn for them, et cetera, et cetera, and there was like a really you know, like a standard curriculum that you worked through and then, at the end of that as well, there was work experience where you got to do pro bono work for a nonprofit organization 50 hours of support, and then they helped you prepare for your exam.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So there was just, it was an incredible, you know, the whole thing was very well organized and you were really part of a community of like-minded individuals.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, you've got the ecosystem, aren't you, which is nice.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So it was that.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I just I could not have done it on my own.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So, you know, having that accountability and being part of, you know, that particular training group and being, you know, with lots of women or other career changers who were like doing the same thing, it really, you know, everybody like supported each other on.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I was saying, like with Supermoms, I genuinely have never felt like as supported to succeed.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Do you know what I mean?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Like, if they're, you know, because your success is their success.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So it kind of it's a win-win for everyone.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: But yeah, so it was being part of that community as well, that like that course, the offering of the course, I think, and being able to, you know, work through it.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Quite again, I'm quite process-y, so being able to sort of yeah, you could see what the course was.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, you've got the cohort then doing that course.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, there's cohorts, they do like three or four per year.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So we were like I was like the February 22 cohort.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So, yeah, you know, like we had like a WhatsApp group.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Everybody was going through that experience together.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So that was also really nice.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And then I attended some of their events up in London as well, which was then really nice to like put names to faces behind the company and everything as well, lovely.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So you finished in August, so it was what?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: One day a week, the training session, was it.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And then I don't know, I think it was like 20 hours per week that you needed to commit to the course.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, and there was a live session which was approximately three hours a week, and then the rest of it was, you know, your own study and homework and mentor and that kind of thing.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, probably 15 to 20 hours per week, so you could maybe do it alongside another part time job, alongside parenting, you could do it alongside other bits and bodies, yeah, and use that training session.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Was it during school now?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, the training session was during school.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I said we used to be like about nine and a half nine in the morning for in the week, but they do record everything.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I was in the fortunate position where I was able to attend most of those live, which I find really beneficial.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: But if you can just watch all the recordings back and I know lots of people who had, you know, as you say, who do it alongside work and then maybe do it in the evenings and then they just watch the recordings back so you finish the course you took six months and then tell us what happened after, because it's all obviously, obviously all well and good to do, in course, getting a new qualification.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: What happened after you got your qualification?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yes, so then you were in the big wide world To get an actual job, and you know it was an actual job in technology.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So it was quite nerve wracking and especially for me, I was like I suppose I'd been on my tour de l'Ive and then I didn't go back to my original career.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I did the training course.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So you know there's always that extra time as well that you've been out and you start to question yourself.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know, never mind going back to something that you're comfortable with, but going back to something totally new.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Do you have that in?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: What's the syndrome at that point?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Oh yeah, I mean I've gone through that.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know they built your confidence in the course, yeah, and then thinking, actually, can I go out now and, you know, be a sales force admin for an organization?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: But the answer to that question is that yes, I can.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I did.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I just started looking for different roles and super mums also have, as well as a training arm, they have a recruitment arm.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So they obviously really try and help and support with that process If they think there are any particular roles or things that are suitable to certain people on the course.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So this one I did actually.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So my background is a nonprofit and then they did get a nonprofit role and they put me forward for it.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I was able to secure a role very quickly.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I was lucky just a few weeks after I finished the course, but they were great.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I've been to some interviews before and they did, you know, really try and build up my confidence and say you know, don't be afraid to be confident about your technical knowledge, because I'd probably not, you know, not really put that across very well and actually not even in roles I think you do.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Once you've done a course like this.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You just you know so much more technically than you know really you probably imagine.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So, yeah, so the Supermoms recruitment helped me land my first role and what I would say to everyone is because SEAL's voice is used by so many different sectors that you can bring that experience from your previous career into it and, to be honest, that's probably what landed me the job was having that sector knowledge as well as the technical skills All sectors, isn't it.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I've given retail HK all you know, ie, whatever industry you're from, those people imploding that.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, that role last October been in a year and that's nice.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, three days.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I sit it over four sort of between school hours as well.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So they're very flexible and again that you know it is a very flexible role, which is great part of the reason why I did it.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, absolutely, and I know, because I mean speaking to Heather, it's a lot of the roles are really flexible?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, I think it's the nature of the job as well.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know, obviously it's technology.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You can do it remotely, you can do it on your computer, you know.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So if you need to catch up in the evening or do things in the evening or just sit it, it is a very flexible kind of role.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I would say you went from home, you've moved, haven't you recently?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yes, I've moved.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, I was based in the site of England and my office is in London.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: But I've since moved back to New England and I do think that, like this career has just been a real, you know, really helpful within that, because I could actually just keep my job and just take it with me and just generally the whole career, just feel like you don't have to sacrifice in terms of location.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know you can really work wherever you want to still do the job, which for me has been great, but, yeah, back in Ireland night.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So what's your job like on a day to day basis?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: What does a sales at Forst admin person do?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I think my role is probably a little bit different than a traditional sales Forst admin, because I work at a small charity called the Wanda Foundation.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: They work directly with women and girls all over the world.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: They're fantastic charity if you get to have a look at them.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And they were just spreadsheet based, so they didn't have CRM platform until a year ago.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I guess the last year really has been like building the architecture of the platform and moving all of their data and information from you know the way it was stored before all armed sales force and then like training up all of the users to be able to use the platform then.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So it's kind of like the digital implementation, you know leading that piece.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: First of all, and I think it's really sort of now we're getting more into like the day to day of perhaps a more traditional sales force administrator role, which is where, obviously, you know, I continually train the users because there's always, you know, potentially new users or new people who want to use the system and the day-to-day management of the back end of all of the things that need done.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: But they really do want to develop their platform.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: We're looking at them in a potentially using it for development in the HR system they work with partners globally around the world and how we collect the data from them for their impact reporting.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: We're looking at developing that and a system for managing the volunteers.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I think that's the good thing about being an in-heist Salesforce admin is that they have the resource to be able just to develop the platform and it doesn't remain stagnant.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So, yeah, it's really interesting because there's always different things that they want to do and develop, basically to make everything more efficient so that the charity and can spend more time doing what's really important, like their fundraising and obviously their program delivery and obviously how the Salesforce platform can support that.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And, as I said, there's loads more that we can do.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I'm just working with the different teams the fundraising team, the programs team to map out some of those next requirements.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So, yeah, I mean, I really enjoy it, exactly, yeah, and it's a nice, very role, isn't it?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, absolutely Definitely.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And then I think, ultimately at the core of it, I know sometimes like people can feel a bit overwhelmed by technology and it can take time for people to get used to it, but ultimately your goal is really to try and make people's jobs easier by taking away long, laborious administrative tasks, and that perhaps it could be automated or it could be done differently, like one example of that, where I am now is the organization just didn't really have a sense of like who were all of their monthly donors and they were sort of stored in lots of different platforms and lots of different ways, and we've been able to bring all of that information into Salesforce.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So the person that obviously looks after you, know those people and stewards them can just do it so much easier than before, whereas it was just kind of impossible before.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: And that's one example.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So that's really helpful.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So are you still in touch with Supermoms since they've trained you?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Well, I mean, I am.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: You know they're a great group.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I used to go to a few of their events and you know, sometimes we had some wine together after and that's what happened.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: But yeah, no, it's a great community to be part of.
• 15:46
  Elizabeth Willetts: Yes, still in touch with lots of them.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I've met various people on the way, like my mentor and other people I met at events, and you know very often like that's the thing about a Salesforce admin, I guess, in this particular role, like I am on my own, which sometimes can be challenging, but so I very much use my like network from Supermoms and the network that that's given me if I need help with sort of any technical.
• 16:05
  Elizabeth Willetts: I was going to say if there's some like thing you don't quite know, can you reach out to like your mentor?
• 16:10
  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I go to my mentor, I go to my old trainer or any other people that I've met, to see if anyone.
• 16:16
  Elizabeth Willetts: And if they can't help you, they normally can find someone who can.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I would say, like, as a sector, it's the most like helpful, nicest, friendliest sector.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Honestly, I don't know.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: I think tech might have, like you know, maybe people might think that you know it's all sort of I don't know, I don't want to stereotype, like white people, and there people are so willing to, you know, share their knowledge.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: It's really unbelievable, honestly, as a whole sector, not just the Supermoms community.
• 16:47
  Elizabeth Willetts: So you please your retrain then?
• 16:48
  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, I am Please, I did it, yeah.
• 16:51
  Elizabeth Willetts: So what's next for you then?
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Because obviously you've done the admin, because I know that they do extra courses, is that something you've considered?
• 16:58
  Elizabeth Willetts: Yeah, it is.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: It's one of those ones where, like recently, I've like moved countries and everything.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So I felt like quite overwhelmed with my personal life.
• 17:06
  Elizabeth Willetts: But yeah, I mean, that's the nice thing about Sealsforces, I think there's just all the opportunities are there.
• 17:10
  Elizabeth Willetts: It's just sort of when you decide to go for them.
• 17:13
  Elizabeth Willetts: I think for me, I would probably like to look into you know the sort of consultancy type route or perhaps, yeah, non-profit consultancy we get to work with.
• 17:21
  Elizabeth Willetts: You know multiple different charities and like developing those, like formalizing those, like consultancy skills as well.
• 17:27
  Elizabeth Willetts: But, yeah, so I do want to look into you know some more certifications as soon as possible, because it has been a year I haven't.
• 17:35
  Elizabeth Willetts: The challenge at the time is like keeping up with everything and keeping up with the tech world, because it feels sometimes like you blink and you know there's artificial intelligence and you blink and there's something else, and but that's the exciting part of it as well is obviously there's always the opportunity for learning and growing.
• 17:50
  Elizabeth Willetts: I was going to say do you get like additional training?
• 17:52
  Elizabeth Willetts: You know when something happens, there's a new development.
• 17:54
  Elizabeth Willetts: I don't know.
• 17:54
  Elizabeth Willetts: You know for Sealsforces yeah, I mean Sealsforces.
• 17:56
  Elizabeth Willetts: I said there's the online platform called Trialhead which basically you can go to to train yourself up and everything.
• 18:02
  Elizabeth Willetts: So now that I've obviously qualified, like that would be, that's where I go to.
• 18:05
  Elizabeth Willetts: You know, keep your contacts and the different and whatever sort of area I need to get.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: It's very helpful.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: Wow, what a great story.
• 18:13
  Elizabeth Willetts: I'm so pleased to hear.
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  Elizabeth Willetts: So if people are watching this and they're interested in free training in Sealsforces, then, kerry, we trained with a brilliant company called Super Moms We've obviously talked about, and they offer six months training.
• 18:26
  Elizabeth Willetts: You can fit around you and your life and you know, like Kerry, then there's an opportunity for you to get a flexible, well paid job after they really can fit around you and your life.
• 18:35
  Elizabeth Willetts: So thank you so much, kerry, for joining me today.
• 18:39
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