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Virginia Judge BLOWS UP Democrat Power Grab | Episode 274 · V

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Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, everybody. Welcome to Vince on a Thursday.
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Speaker 1: It is great to have you with us. What a
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Speaker 1: great day to be an American. It's always a great
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Speaker 1: day to be an American. We got a big show
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Speaker 1: ahead for you. I'm gonna talk about the latest out
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Speaker 1: of Virginia. I told you yesterday, we're not done yet.
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Speaker 1: We're not done yet. Despite the election, that crazy election
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Speaker 1: rigging operation that the left conducted on Tuesday, that is
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Speaker 1: not the end of the story. In fact, legal battles
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Speaker 1: raging like crazy in the Commonwealth. And I've got some
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Speaker 1: updates on some breaking news that just took place in
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Speaker 1: the last 24 hours. A glimmer of hope here. In fact,
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Speaker 1: we'll be joined by the former attorney general of the
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Speaker 1: Commonwealth of Virginia. Ken Cuccinelli is joining us in just minutes.
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Speaker 1: We'll get his expert analysis on what just happened and
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Speaker 1: what is likely to happen. He actually has a very
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Speaker 1: optimistic view of what comes next year. We may be
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Speaker 1: able to thwart this election rigging operation still. That's ahead
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Speaker 1: on Friday. The program, also the left, is very, very
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Speaker 1: angry that the Trump administration is going after the Southern
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Speaker 1: Poverty Law Center. They're very upset about this, which is hilarious.
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Speaker 1: Hey, guys. Great to be with you again this morning.
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Speaker 1: thank you for being here. And thank you to all
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Speaker 1: of you who watched the show yesterday. I joined Dan
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Speaker 1: Bongino's program for a bit and it was great. It
3:24
Speaker 1: was great. We're doing this every other Wednesday. We're doing
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Speaker 1: this like kind of swap thing where we go back
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Speaker 1: and forth. Dan will come on my radio show. on
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Speaker 1: every other Wednesday. And then the alternating Wednesdays, I joined
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Speaker 1: him on his podcast. It was great. It was great yesterday. Actually,
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Speaker 1: I felt like that was, did you feel like that
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Speaker 1: was the best one yet? I felt like that was
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Speaker 1: the best one yet. As Dan and I were chatting,
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Speaker 1: we were just kind of running down the kind of
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Speaker 1: all the, all the prosecutions that have been going on. And,
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Speaker 1: and I, I was, you know, Dan was saying to
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Speaker 1: me yesterday, if you missed it, I highly encourage you
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Speaker 1: to go check it out. I thought it was great.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was worth your time, which is why
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Speaker 1: I'm recommending it to you. But Dan was talking about
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Speaker 1: while he was in the FBI, he just couldn't tell
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Speaker 1: me anything. And he goes, I know that that was
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Speaker 1: really tough because I really wish I could, but I
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Speaker 1: couldn't tell you anything about what was happening behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes because he's bound by duty and the law not to,
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Speaker 1: of course. And I told him yesterday, I was like, Dan,
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this was such a source of great
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Speaker 1: frustration to me I mean, how many of you were
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Speaker 1: with me during that last year while Dan was at
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Speaker 1: the FBI? And I'm filling in for his audience. And
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Speaker 1: people keep on assuming that I've got all the intel.
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Speaker 1: They're like, well, you know, Dan, what's actually happening? Who's
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Speaker 1: being arrested? What's going on? I'm telling you, I'm just
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Speaker 1: divining most of this the same way you're divining this.
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Speaker 1: I try and talk to people, find out more information.
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Speaker 1: But again, it was a source of great frustration. And
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Speaker 1: it's a credit to Dan, by the way, because there's
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Speaker 1: lots of people who could have entered that world and
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Speaker 1: then just been just running their mouth all the time.
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Speaker 1: The guy didn't do that. The guy didn't do that.
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Speaker 1: And so we see this week in the Southern Poverty
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Speaker 1: Law Center indictment, kind of the fruits of Dan's labors. Actually,
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Speaker 1: not kind of, literally the fruits of Dan's labors. We
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Speaker 1: see what they were investigating and why that, you know,
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Speaker 1: it was under seal, but now it's all free. Now
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Speaker 1: it's in the public. A massive indictment announced this week
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Speaker 1: as the Southern Poverty Law Center gets slapped with 11
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Speaker 1: charges against And they involve funding KKK guys and neo-Nazis
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Speaker 1: laundering the money, creating this fraudulent environment where they claim
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Speaker 1: that they were tackling hate crimes, but instead they were
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Speaker 1: stoking hate in order to make it seem like they
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Speaker 1: had some noble mission, something to confront. It's like as
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Speaker 1: sinister as it gets. It's like one of these sort
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Speaker 1: of demented Lex Luthor style movie plots. It's crazy. They're
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Speaker 1: like Batman villains. And here they are at scale causing
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Speaker 1: all of this fraud. And I noticed, and this came
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Speaker 1: up in our conversation yesterday, I noticed in October of
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Speaker 1: last year that the FBI had cut the Southern Poverty
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Speaker 1: Law Center off entirely. And it was back then that
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Speaker 1: you had the media accusing the Trump administration of hating
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Speaker 1: civil rights, being against black people, being against minorities or whatever,
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Speaker 1: accusing them of bigotry for cutting the Southern Poverty Law
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Speaker 1: Center off. And I said to Dan, Dan, you cut
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Speaker 1: them off because they were a criminal enterprise. You knew it.
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Speaker 1: You couldn't say anything about it. And now the rest
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Speaker 1: of the world knows about it. It's just an amazing
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Speaker 1: sequence of events. And it's a reminder that these things,
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Speaker 1: as frustrating as they are, talk about frustrating, they take time.
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Speaker 1: The pursuit of justice takes time. If you're going to
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Speaker 1: do it right, it takes time. What do they say
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Speaker 1: in the military? Slow is fast. Is that an expression,
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Speaker 1: you veterans? I feel like that's a shooting expression, right?
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Speaker 1: Slow is fast. Sometimes in order to do things the
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Speaker 1: right way, yeah, slow is fast and fast is smooth.
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Speaker 1: Slow is fast and fast is smooth. Sometimes in order
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Speaker 1: to do things the right way, it's going to take
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Speaker 1: some time. It's going to take some time. And so
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Speaker 1: now we're kind of waiting right now for what comes
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Speaker 1: next with.
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Speaker 1: With these guys with the grand conspiracy case down in Florida.
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Speaker 1: But let me just tell you something about the left.
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Speaker 1: The left is freaking out right now that we found
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Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center. It reminds me of, you
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Speaker 1: remember when President Trump took down Doge, or not took
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Speaker 1: down Doge, but advanced Doge, took down USAID, took down
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Speaker 1: all of this rampant fraudulent funding for NGOs. Remember all this?
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Speaker 1: You remember the freak out that we saw? You remember
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Speaker 1: the freakout? The freakout was out of control. You had
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Speaker 1: members of Congress standing outside of USAID protesting like lunatics
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Speaker 1: as if the rest of the country was obsessed with USAID.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I would venture a bet that most of
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Speaker 1: the country hadn't even really heard of USAID, or if
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Speaker 1: they had heard of it, they hadn't really put much
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Speaker 1: thought into what it was. It sounded like some sort of,
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Speaker 1: you know, generic feel-good humanitarian operation. USAID, USAID, it's probably
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Speaker 1: helping people, whatever. The Democrats were standing outside that building
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Speaker 1: like it was, like the whole world was collapsing. I
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Speaker 1: can't believe what Donald Trump is doing. And the rest
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Speaker 1: of us are going, thank God Donald Trump is doing this. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's happening again. It's happening again. Yeah, no, that's right.
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Speaker 1: People are pointing out in the chat, this is how
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Speaker 1: Tesla's got attacked. This is This is why the left
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Speaker 1: started leading terror attacks on Tesla dealerships all across the country.
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Speaker 1: God bless Elon, baby. I mean, Elon Musk. Boy, has
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Speaker 1: your opinion of Elon Musk changed through the years?
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Speaker 4: Mine has.
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Speaker 1: I'm like all on board with Elon now. I think
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Speaker 1: Elon's great. I think he's been wonderful, man, a Thomas
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Speaker 1: Edison of our time. But the guy jumps in, he
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Speaker 1: helps the government out, and he starts purging all of
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Speaker 1: this wasteful spending. And the left goes crazy. We found...
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Speaker 1: Their stash. We found their stash. It's like we found
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Speaker 1: their stack of pornos and they're trying to claim it's
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Speaker 1: not theirs. It's not mine. It's not mine.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we found them. And we found them again, the
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Speaker 1: Southern Poverty Law Center. So the structure here of how
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Speaker 1: the SPLC was moving all this money, no doubt this
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Speaker 1: is the template for the way the left takes money,
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Speaker 1: fleeces donors, steals from federal taxpayers in a lot of cases,
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Speaker 1: and then uses it to advance chaos. This is the template,
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Speaker 1: what you saw yesterday in the Southern Poverty Law Center
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Speaker 1: indictment two days ago now. And so that's why they're
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Speaker 1: freaking out. So all over X today, I'm seeing these
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Speaker 1: Democrats posting, the Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't deserve this.
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Speaker 1: How dare you? Donald Trump is doing awful things. This
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Speaker 1: is so mean. Here's Chuck Schumer whining, whining. about the
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Speaker 1: Southern Poverty Law Center being prosecuted yesterday. Here's Chuck.
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Speaker 5: Cut one.
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Speaker 6: Every day Kash Patel remains in this job is another
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Speaker 6: day that undermines the FBI and its mission. Take yesterday's
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Speaker 6: press conference. The head of the FBI, the nation's top
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Speaker 6: law enforcement officer, spent the entire time getting into fights
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Speaker 6: with reporters about his alleged drunken behavior, his partying, his
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Speaker 6: overall fitness for the job. This has become a dangerous,
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Speaker 6: unacceptable distraction for the FBI, which has so much important
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Speaker 6: work to do. Donald Trump has led us to war
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Speaker 6: right now against Iran, a nation known for sophisticated cyber attacks.
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Speaker 6: Why is Kash Patel not focused on that? Why is
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Speaker 6: Kash Patel not focused on the serious threats facing his country?
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Speaker 6: Every day these stories of misconduct persist. They undermine the
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Speaker 6: mission of the FBI. Every day these questions about Patel,
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Speaker 6: his behavior, his character linger. They weaken confidence in the
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Speaker 6: leadership of one of the most important law enforcement agencies
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Speaker 6: in the world. Kash Patel must resign immediately. He's not
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Speaker 6: a serious person. He has not shown that he has
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Speaker 6: the skills required for the job. And the last few
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Speaker 6: days have shown he does not have the judgment to
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Speaker 6: lead an agency like the FBI. This is what happens
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Speaker 6: when Trump just chooses acolytes.
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Speaker 4: Hilarious.
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Speaker 6: People who suck up to him for important jobs.
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Speaker 1: He's so mad.
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Speaker 6: That shouldn't be any criteria in choosing the head of
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Speaker 6: the FBI.
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Speaker 4: Stay mad, dude.
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Speaker 6: Instead, it seems to be Trump's only criteria, and it
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Speaker 6: puts him in trouble. It puts him in the hot seat,
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Speaker 6: in the frying pan. over and over again by choosing
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Speaker 6: people whose only criteria is loyalty to him. Americans deserve steady,
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Speaker 6: sober leadership from their FBI director, especially during a time
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Speaker 6: of war. Kash Patel is not it. And if Kash
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Speaker 6: Patel wants to keep partying, he can do it somewhere
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Speaker 6: else without putting the safety of the American people on line.
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Speaker 1: What a tool. That's just, you mad? You mad? You mad?
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Speaker 1: Remember that dude who appeared on Bill O'Reilly years ago?
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Speaker 1: Who was that rapper? He was sitting there. He just
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Speaker 1: spent the whole interview going, you mad? You mad? Chuck Schumer,
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Speaker 1: you mad? I love how this guy can't even grill
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Speaker 1: a cheeseburger. He has no idea what he's talking about. Actually,
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Speaker 1: all he's doing is the same thing these Democrats always do.
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Speaker 1: When we catch them, they just advance wrap-up smears. So
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Speaker 1: now he's like, oh, Kash Patel's an awful person.
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Speaker 3: Really?
12:38
Speaker 1: He's an awful person? Because last I checked, they're prosecuting
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Speaker 1: everybody under the sun. They've got murders down to record lows.
12:45
Speaker 1: They're stopping the fentanyl inflows. The FBI has joined the
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Speaker 1: immigration mission to secure our border, which is at the
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Speaker 1: securest level we've ever seen. And you're whining on the
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Speaker 1: Senate floor that the SPLC has been taken out, that
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Speaker 1: somebody's finally cracking down on a left-wing fraudulent operation, a
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Speaker 1: big one. Just wait until we get to Act Blue.
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Speaker 1: Watch the freak out that Chuck Schumer is going to
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Speaker 1: do on that one. It's just amazing. All right, coming up,
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about what's happening in Virginia.
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Speaker 1: All right, happy to have joining us right now the
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Speaker 1: former Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Virginia, Ken Cuccinelli. Sir,
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Speaker 1: it's nice to see you again. Thanks for being here today.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good to be with you, Vince.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we get this ruling out of Tazewell, Virginia,
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Speaker 1: the Tazewellian devil. This judge comes out and he says,
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Speaker 1: you know what? This is a completely unconstitutional election that
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Speaker 1: happened this week. Tell me why.
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Speaker 3: So first of all, it wasn't done before the referendum
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Speaker 3: because Virginia legal precedent says that you wait until after.
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Speaker 3: It's part of the legislative process. This judge moved very quickly.
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Speaker 3: There are four different state constitutional problems with the referendum, Vince.
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Speaker 3: Three of them relate to the referendum itself, and one
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Speaker 3: is just because of how incredibly gerrymandered the proposed maps are.
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Speaker 3: And this judge had ruled on two of the process
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Speaker 3: problems earlier, and the Supreme Court held that appeal, like
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Speaker 3: I said, until after the referendum. So those two issues
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Speaker 3: are in front of the Virginia Supreme Court. Yesterday, this
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Speaker 3: judge heard argument and ruled on the third process challenge,
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Speaker 3: really brazen violation of the state constitution by the Democrat
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Speaker 3: General Assembly. And because he found them in violation, he
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Speaker 3: enjoined counting the votes and certifying the election. So it's
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Speaker 3: frozen in place for now. We'll see if the Virginia
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Speaker 3: Supreme Court lifts that. But either way, the Virginia Supreme
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Speaker 3: Court is moving very fast itself. They are receiving briefing
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Speaker 3: today on those first two issues that I mentioned are
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Speaker 3: already in front of them with oral arguments scheduled, as
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Speaker 3: I understand it, for Monday. So this is going to
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Speaker 3: move very, very quickly. And because of the brazenness of
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Speaker 3: the constitutional violations, I expect the Supreme Court to throw
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Speaker 3: this referendum out.
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Speaker 1: What are the primary constitutional violations here?
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Speaker 3: So like a lot of states, Virginia has a process
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Speaker 3: to amend its own constitution that includes passing the amendment
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Speaker 3: two different times through the General Assembly with an election
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Speaker 3: in between. Well, The idea being that you get to
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Speaker 3: hold the delegates accountable before they pass it a second time.
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Speaker 3: And as you know, of course, because you did a
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Speaker 3: lot of reporting on it, we had an election in
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Speaker 3: Virginia last year, 2025. We got our moderate governor, Abigail Spanberger,
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Speaker 3: and the House of Delegates was up for election as well.
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Speaker 3: And last time the Democrats had full control back around 2020,
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Speaker 3: they gave us 45-day elections. And so the election of
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Speaker 3: 2025 began on September 19th. But the General Assembly didn't
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Speaker 3: pass the first proposed, it's called first passage, of the
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Speaker 3: proposed amendment until Halloween last year. Over a million people
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Speaker 3: had already voted. And they want that election to count
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Speaker 3: as the intervening election required explicitly in the Virginia Constitution.
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Speaker 3: And I think they're gonna have a very, very hard
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Speaker 3: time with that. It is kind of funny to see
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Speaker 3: them hoisted on their 45-day guard here.
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Speaker 1: Yes, like it's the only time they recognize an individual
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Speaker 1: election day is when they can steal power.
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Speaker 3: Yes, no, and that's what they're arguing, Vince. They're arguing
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Speaker 3: the election day is the day we count. That's election day.
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Speaker 3: It isn't all these days we're voting. Now, their problem
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Speaker 3: with that is the issue in front of the TAS
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Speaker 3: will judge yesterday was the second passage of the constitutional amendment,
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Speaker 3: which happened January 19th of this year. And the same
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Speaker 3: provision of the state constitution requires 90 days to pass
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Speaker 3: from the second passage of a proposed amendment until it
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Speaker 3: is submitted to the voters. That's the language of the
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Speaker 3: constitutional amendment. And the vote, of course, finished Tuesday, April 21st. Well,
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Speaker 3: that's 90 days after January 19th. But again, we have
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Speaker 3: 45 days of voting in Virginia. People started voting on
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Speaker 3: March 6th. That's when it was submitted to the voters.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Again, this is a very brazen violation of the timing requirements.
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Speaker 3: And it's interesting here because the no side, my side,
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Speaker 3: really played catch up. We were outspent three or four
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Speaker 3: to one. But even the money that came in came
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Speaker 3: in late. And so the no performance really improved near
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Speaker 3: the end. We won election day. They barely won early
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Speaker 3: voting by about a point and a half. They won
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Speaker 3: mail-in voting by something like 45 points.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Even though it was only about 12% of the total votes,
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Speaker 3: it was such a massive margin that it swamped the
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Speaker 3: other two categories. And mail voting takes a while to
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Speaker 3: to bring together for your team. So having late money
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Speaker 3: keeps you out of that game.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Tell me, I'm getting a lot of questions about
19:38
Speaker 1: how the votes were counted on election day. I want
19:40
Speaker 1: to go just straight to the question of the tally
19:43
Speaker 1: at the end of the night, because there were, because
19:45
Speaker 1: people are talking about, well, Northern Virginia suddenly, you know, basically, yes,
19:49
Speaker 1: caught up dramatically. What are the mechanics there? And is
19:52
Speaker 1: there any cause for suspicion on your part? What do
19:55
Speaker 1: you view as the issue there?
19:57
Speaker 3: The mechanics in Virginia are that the urban areas are
20:03
Speaker 3: so big that they're very slow to come in. And
20:06
Speaker 3: that may be partly intentional. There's no question about it.
20:09
Speaker 3: But so Fairfax always comes in last or not last,
20:14
Speaker 3: but very late. So you see a shift to the
20:17
Speaker 3: blue side in every election as the night goes on.
20:21
Speaker 3: So when I saw that we were the no side
20:24
Speaker 3: was winning by six points at around 830, I thought, oh,
20:29
Speaker 3: this isn't enough because I know how those votes come
20:32
Speaker 3: in later in the night and mail in voting, as
20:36
Speaker 3: I said. was a 45-point margin in their favor, and
20:40
Speaker 3: mail votes are allowed to keep coming in for another
20:43
Speaker 3: till tomorrow, really. So the margin is going to trickle
20:48
Speaker 3: a little wider. I love it.
20:49
Speaker 1: They're still coming in. It's so crazy. We're trying to
20:53
Speaker 1: stop that nonsense. Okay. So tell me about the Supreme
20:56
Speaker 1: Court of Virginia. How much can we trust their judgment here?
20:59
Speaker 1: Are they a reliable body?
21:01
Speaker 3: You know, Vince, I think they are. And It's for
21:05
Speaker 3: three Republican appointees. They certainly all know they're never getting
21:09
Speaker 3: reappointed with this General Assembly. Our General Assembly appoints judges.
21:13
Speaker 3: So with this radical General Assembly, that's not happening. But
21:20
Speaker 3: more than that, even the Democrat judges, I think, are
21:22
Speaker 3: going to look at this and see that it is
21:24
Speaker 3: so brazen that they can't bring themselves to part ways
21:30
Speaker 3: with what I expect the Republican judges to do. You
21:32
Speaker 3: could see a 7-0 ruling. on the two particular constitutional
21:37
Speaker 3: violations that I mentioned to you. Maybe not 7-0 on
21:41
Speaker 3: all four constitutional violations, but I think on the two
21:45
Speaker 3: that I just referenced to you, we could see 7-0 rulings.
21:49
Speaker 1: Doesn't it matter that the new map is in no way...
21:52
Speaker 1: actual communities. It's designed to straight up destroy.
21:56
Speaker 3: Real communities in Virginia.
21:57
Speaker 1: Yeah.
21:57
Speaker 3: So Vince, that's the fourth constitutional challenge. We actually have
22:01
Speaker 3: a compactness and contiguity requirement in the Virginia constitution. And
22:05
Speaker 3: this is the most gerrymandered map in Virginia of yours
22:09
Speaker 3: in my lifetime.
22:10
Speaker 7: Yes.
22:11
Speaker 3: So it is the most vulnerable map I've ever seen
22:16
Speaker 3: to the compactness challenge under the Virginia constitution. So I
22:20
Speaker 3: think that's the weakest of the four challenges, but really
22:23
Speaker 3: what it is is the least strong of the four
22:26
Speaker 3: challenges because all four constitutional challenges are very strong on
22:30
Speaker 3: a legal basis.
22:31
Speaker 1: But if that's a part of the Constitution and it's
22:33
Speaker 1: not enforced here, then that section has no meaning.
22:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, if this map doesn't violate it, you can pretty
22:41
Speaker 3: much write that provision off as ever mattering. I agree
22:45
Speaker 3: with you on that, but we won't get to that
22:48
Speaker 3: argument Unless the Democrats win on all three procedural arguments,
22:53
Speaker 3: the no side only has to win one argument. If
22:56
Speaker 3: this is unconstitutional on any basis, then it's done. It's
23:01
Speaker 3: thrown out. And you never get to judging the map itself,
23:05
Speaker 3: which is a statutory creature that doesn't come into being
23:09
Speaker 3: unless you get rid of the current maps, which is
23:12
Speaker 3: what the referendum did.
23:14
Speaker 1: It's remarkable. So just to be clear on the timeline,
23:17
Speaker 1: let's assume for a moment the unfortunate event that we
23:20
Speaker 1: lose here and that they get their new maps. Wouldn't
23:22
Speaker 1: that require a pretty rapid fire electoral process to start
23:26
Speaker 1: picking people to be primary candidates? And then the whole scheme,
23:31
Speaker 1: it's going to take a series of elections, right?
23:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole scheme is going to be accelerated. But
23:36
Speaker 3: I will say that in anticipation of that, Governor Spanberger- Remember,
23:41
Speaker 3: she opposed opposed gerrymandering and and the Democrat General Assembly
23:47
Speaker 3: moved our primaries from June to August to buy more time.
23:52
Speaker 3: That being said, the courts understand that all of your
23:57
Speaker 3: points are valid. I mean, even a even a third
24:00
Speaker 3: week of August primary, the voting starts in the beginning
24:03
Speaker 3: of July. That's the voting. So candidate qualification and everything
24:07
Speaker 3: else has to happen before that. obviously. And so I
24:12
Speaker 3: think the court's going to move very fast. I would
24:15
Speaker 3: be surprised if the ruling takes beyond the middle of
24:18
Speaker 3: May from the Virginia Supreme Court.
24:20
Speaker 1: All right, that's coming really soon. Okay, so you, as
24:23
Speaker 1: I understand it, I've seen you doing some posting on this,
24:25
Speaker 1: you're optimistic about this ruling. You think that we won't
24:30
Speaker 1: have a rigged election come November. Tell me about your optimism.
24:34
Speaker 3: If I were a betting man, I would definitely be
24:37
Speaker 3: betting on the no side for sure. in court?
24:42
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty big deal. I mean, that's
24:45
Speaker 1: more optimism than we're used to, Ken.
24:47
Speaker 3: We're not used to this kind of optimism. You and
24:49
Speaker 3: I have talked for many years. You know that optimism
24:52
Speaker 3: is not my forte. And yet, and I'm a bit
24:57
Speaker 3: of an idealist, but I don't see this court parting
25:03
Speaker 3: ways with the Virginia Constitution so far that they allow
25:06
Speaker 3: this referendum to stand. It's just too brazen and naked.
25:10
Speaker 4: It really is.
25:11
Speaker 1: And then finally, on the brazenness of it, the language
25:15
Speaker 1: of the actual vote about restoring fairness. Do you want
25:19
Speaker 1: to restore fairness or not? And I had some listeners
25:23
Speaker 1: early in the process contact me and tell me, I
25:25
Speaker 1: had a family member who voted yes because they were mistaken.
25:28
Speaker 1: They were misled by the referendum. They didn't realize they
25:31
Speaker 1: should have voted no. And does that play a role
25:34
Speaker 1: here in defeating this or is that not as big
25:37
Speaker 1: of a deal?
25:38
Speaker 3: I don't think it's as big a deal. I think
25:41
Speaker 3: it is powerful from a persuasiveness standpoint. And the judge
25:45
Speaker 3: in Tazewell yesterday did include that as a basis. He
25:50
Speaker 3: called it misleading. We have what's called a plain English
25:54
Speaker 3: rule for our ballot language. We do not have a
25:57
Speaker 3: neutrality rule. But his ruling essentially was that it violated
26:02
Speaker 3: the plain English rule, that calling this fair violated plain
26:08
Speaker 3: English and was so misleading that it was disqualifying. So
26:13
Speaker 3: he found that even on a statutory basis. I think
26:17
Speaker 3: that the Supreme Court of Virginia will decide this on
26:20
Speaker 3: a state constitutional basis, not on that basis.
26:24
Speaker 1: Okay. And then finally, I've seen a lot of people
26:27
Speaker 1: come up with these ideas on how to resolve this.
26:29
Speaker 1: And here's one I'll just throw at you. Should Virginia's,
26:33
Speaker 1: the portion of Virginia that was once a part of Washington, D.C., Alexandria, Arlington,
26:37
Speaker 1: should we restore the square? Should we make D.C. a
26:41
Speaker 1: square again and then make Virginia a red state? Do
26:44
Speaker 1: you think that's a good idea?
26:45
Speaker 3: So if D.C. were 10 miles square. I would have
26:48
Speaker 3: won my governor's race 13 years ago, but this referendum
26:52
Speaker 3: would have still squeaked by, just so people know. And
26:56
Speaker 3: Spanberger would have still won by double digits. I think
26:59
Speaker 3: a better idea is to take the populated side portions
27:03
Speaker 3: of D.C. today, give them to Maryland. and leave only
27:07
Speaker 3: government buildings, non-residential government buildings as part of the District
27:12
Speaker 3: of Columbia, forever eliminate the possibility that D.C. could be
27:16
Speaker 3: a state and leave those three electoral votes at zero
27:21
Speaker 3: every presidential election. Yes, Maryland gets one more congressman, but
27:25
Speaker 3: we forever get rid of the threat of D.C. as
27:28
Speaker 3: a state.
27:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. But also, every time you make
27:31
Speaker 1: an offer like that, it really exposes that the left
27:33
Speaker 1: doesn't want that. They want more senators.
27:35
Speaker 2: They always do.
27:35
Speaker 3: Right, of course.
27:36
Speaker 1: It's a scam. It's all a scam.
27:38
Speaker 3: All the more reason to do it.
27:40
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. Ken Cuccinelli, thank you, as always. Thank you
27:43
Speaker 1: for thinking this through, and thank you for just being great,
27:45
Speaker 1: and appreciate your time today, sir.
27:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, good to be with you, Vince.
27:48
Speaker 1: All right, there he is, the former Attorney General of Virginia. Well,
27:52
Speaker 1: that's good news. I'll take that. I mean, that's What
27:57
Speaker 1: an emotional roller coaster this week has been. I know
28:00
Speaker 1: JDD64 says, I feel better about this now. Yeah, me too.
28:04
Speaker 1: I feel a little encouraged. I don't want to feel
28:07
Speaker 1: too encouraged, though. I want to keep my expectations low
28:10
Speaker 1: so I can be really surprised when it happens. Pleasantly
28:13
Speaker 1: surprised when it happens. But the big news here is
28:16
Speaker 1: that in May, we are looking, by mid-May, Ken Cuccinelli
28:20
Speaker 1: says we could see this big Supreme Court judgment out
28:23
Speaker 1: of the state of Virginia in saying everything about this
28:25
Speaker 1: referendum was unconstitutional and that the maps cannot change. They
28:29
Speaker 1: cannot change. We cannot rig the maps. And Ken's not lying.
28:34
Speaker 1: He's not, you know, he's not the guy who's wearing
28:36
Speaker 1: rose-colored glasses all the time. He's not overly optimistic about
28:38
Speaker 1: these things in the past. That's just him giving us
28:41
Speaker 1: his assessment. So God bless him for it. I hope
28:44
Speaker 1: it comes true. I hope it comes true. I hope
28:45
Speaker 1: we can have Ken back for a big victory lap
28:47
Speaker 1: on all this. Do you feel better about that? I
28:49
Speaker 1: feel better. That's yeah, from his mouth, the God's ear.
28:52
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. Thank you, Red Laurie.
28:55
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28:55
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Speaker 1: Let's see. What else do we have here on the
32:46
Speaker 1: menu today of the many things we need to talk about? Um, uh, Oh,
32:51
Speaker 1: I love this. This is fun. Hakeem Jeffries is, um,
32:56
Speaker 1: a ridiculous figure. His, his brain operates on dial up,
33:00
Speaker 1: which is why he's so freaking slow. We call him
33:02
Speaker 1: the dial up Democrat. Um, Hakeem Jeffries has spent the
33:05
Speaker 1: week acting like a full blown lunatic. He was, he
33:08
Speaker 1: was declaring, as I mentioned yesterday, that, uh, he's going
33:11
Speaker 1: to war against the American people, war everywhere all the time.
33:15
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:16
Speaker 3: Okay.
33:16
Speaker 1: Sure, buddy. And, um, He also says that he wants
33:20
Speaker 1: to go to war with the state of Florida. Anybody
33:22
Speaker 1: in chat in Florida? Anybody down there in the free
33:25
Speaker 1: state of Florida? I love that it's the free state
33:26
Speaker 1: these days. And in Florida, there is a conversation happening
33:31
Speaker 1: right now in order to fight back against the left's
33:34
Speaker 1: election rigging operations about doing some redistricting in order to
33:38
Speaker 1: get a couple more Republican seats in place. And that's fun.
33:42
Speaker 1: I love that. And here's Ron DeSantis responding. So basically,
33:46
Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries is like, we're going after you. We're going
33:49
Speaker 1: after you. And Governor DeSantis had a great moment yesterday
33:53
Speaker 1: where he ripped the guy he calls Dollar Store Obama. Listen,
33:58
Speaker 1: here's Ron DeSantis yesterday.
33:59
Speaker 3: Watch.
34:00
Speaker 8: This guy, Jeffries, popping off in Washington about Florida. He
34:06
Speaker 8: wants to be Speaker of the House. And he's kind
34:10
Speaker 8: of like, you know, more liberal than Pelosi and all
34:12
Speaker 8: this other stuff from New York City. I just want
34:15
Speaker 8: to know, I just, oh, Florida, we're going to go
34:17
Speaker 8: after Florida. Please be my guest. I will pay for
34:21
Speaker 8: you to come down to Florida and campaign. I'll put
34:23
Speaker 8: you up in the Florida governor's mansion. We'll take you fishing.
34:27
Speaker 8: We'll do all this stuff. There's nothing that could be
34:31
Speaker 8: better for Republicans in Florida than to see Jeffries, Hakeem Jeffries,
34:37
Speaker 8: everywhere around this state. Voters will not like what they see.
34:40
Speaker 8: They will not want that type of ideology. And so
34:44
Speaker 8: the door is open. The invitations out there, I don't
34:47
Speaker 8: think there would be anything better for the Republican Party
34:49
Speaker 8: of Florida but to have Jeffries there. Now, I kind
34:52
Speaker 8: of feel bad for the guy because he's as left
34:54
Speaker 8: as they come. He's always going left. And yet the
34:57
Speaker 8: far left hates him. They call him a dollar store Obama.
35:01
Speaker 8: They call him AIPAC secure, all these different derogatory names
35:05
Speaker 8: that they do. And so he's tried to ingratiate himself
35:08
Speaker 8: with their name. but they're just not drinking the Kool-Aid,
35:11
Speaker 8: and so they give them a hard time. So I
35:12
Speaker 8: kind of feel bad for that. But please be my
35:15
Speaker 8: guest to come down in Florida. We would love to
35:17
Speaker 8: have you.
35:18
Speaker 1: Any questions? You know, it's been a while since I've
35:25
Speaker 1: seen a good Ron DeSantis clip. It's not because they
35:27
Speaker 1: haven't existed. I just haven't seen them. They haven't crossed
35:29
Speaker 1: my timeline. Really funny. Really funny. I love that. You know,
35:35
Speaker 1: I really, I think... I think by now DeSantis and
35:38
Speaker 1: President Trump have passed things up. I keep seeing reports
35:41
Speaker 1: that DeSantis would love to work with President Trump in
35:44
Speaker 1: the administration. We've seen speculation lately that he might, he
35:48
Speaker 1: would love to be the Secretary of War, the Attorney
35:52
Speaker 1: General or something. Okay, maybe. I mean, but right now, candidly,
35:57
Speaker 1: you know, Pete Hegseth, I think he's doing a great job.
35:59
Speaker 1: He's cleaning up that place. He's got the morale actually
36:02
Speaker 1: getting boosted, getting rid of the DEI stuff. and refocusing
36:07
Speaker 1: the military on lethality, the stuff that the military is
36:09
Speaker 1: supposed to be focused on, excellence, and not on left-wing
36:13
Speaker 1: social engineering. So I think Hegseth's doing a a great
36:16
Speaker 1: job there. And then, you know, Todd Blanche, man, what
36:19
Speaker 1: is this audition? You know, right now he's in this like,
36:22
Speaker 1: you know, acting attorney general phase, but they're bringing prosecutions
36:26
Speaker 1: and they're cracking down on people. They're moving the grand
36:28
Speaker 1: conspiracy case. They just hired Joe DeGeneva to join that operation.
36:33
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got, he's doing so much great stuff
36:35
Speaker 1: in such a concentrated period of time right now that
36:37
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, I have been thinking, obviously part of this
36:40
Speaker 1: is just like the passage of time. Like he's, he's
36:43
Speaker 1: arriving at the right time for all of this stuff
36:44
Speaker 1: to come to fruition. But part of me thinks like,
36:47
Speaker 1: what if Todd Blanche is just undergoing this big audition
36:50
Speaker 1: right now, trying to prove to Trump that he's the
36:52
Speaker 1: guy for the job by being this kind of aggressive?
36:55
Speaker 1: It almost makes me want him to stay as acting
36:57
Speaker 1: AG for a long, a long time. Why don't we
36:59
Speaker 1: just keep him in this sort of like middle ground
37:02
Speaker 1: role where he's constantly trying to impress the president of
37:04
Speaker 1: the United States and by extension, us, the American voter
37:07
Speaker 1: might be good. Might be good. And also, for those
37:10
Speaker 1: of you in Florida, you probably want Ron DeSantis down there. Oh,
37:12
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, the Supreme Court. Lisa Allen said that.
37:15
Speaker 1: Lisa Allen, 13. That's right. That was the other rumor
37:17
Speaker 1: this week, is that he would love to be on
37:19
Speaker 1: the United States Supreme Court. He's an attorney. DeSantis is.
37:24
Speaker 1: Could be very good. I mean, yeah, it could be
37:27
Speaker 1: very good in the event that the president has to
37:30
Speaker 1: pick a new Supreme Court justice. There's a lot of
37:32
Speaker 1: rampant speculation about, you know, is Sam Alito going to retire?
37:35
Speaker 1: And at what point does Justice Thomas retire? If those
37:38
Speaker 1: things happen, it could be important to get a guy
37:42
Speaker 1: like Ron DeSantis in. And you got to think about
37:45
Speaker 1: the math that President Trump is dealing with right now
37:47
Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court for that matter, the guys on
37:49
Speaker 1: the court, the Alitos, the Thomases, the guys who really
37:51
Speaker 1: care about our country. What are they thinking here? Because one,
37:57
Speaker 1: it'd be great to have them around forever, but truth
37:59
Speaker 1: is none of us can live forever. None of us
38:01
Speaker 1: can live forever. At some point, you got to check out.
38:05
Speaker 1: And when do you go? Right now, we have a
38:08
Speaker 1: Republican Senate. The odds of keeping a Republican Senate are
38:11
Speaker 1: actually relatively high, despite what you're hearing in the media.
38:13
Speaker 1: We do have a very good shot of keeping and
38:15
Speaker 1: even growing the Republican Senate this year, which is what
38:19
Speaker 1: you need for a Supreme Court confirmation. You know, is
38:24
Speaker 1: there an electoral advantage to having a vacancy on the court?
38:29
Speaker 7: Maybe.
38:30
Speaker 1: It could backfire. You could inspire the left to to
38:34
Speaker 1: show up like crazy to the polls to stop a
38:37
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice from emerging. That could happen. So that's
38:41
Speaker 1: the kind of math they're doing behind the scenes. Because remember,
38:45
Speaker 1: one of the big helpful reasons that President Trump got
38:47
Speaker 1: elected in the first place is Supreme Court picks. That's
38:50
Speaker 1: why people, there was a meaningful percentage of the population
38:53
Speaker 1: that voted for Trump because they needed a great pick
38:56
Speaker 1: for that Supreme Court vacancy. That was Mitch McConnell's last
39:00
Speaker 1: great achievement insofar as he's had them. in helping us
39:04
Speaker 1: keep open a vacancy so that the president could fill
39:06
Speaker 1: it so uh yeah no there's a there's a lot
39:10
Speaker 1: going on here there's a there's a lot going on
39:12
Speaker 1: here and uh we'll keep your eyes on that but
39:14
Speaker 1: i know those of you in florida you love ron
39:16
Speaker 1: desantis as governor my my parents are down in florida
39:18
Speaker 1: my dad you know general colonized down in florida he
39:21
Speaker 1: loves ron desantis down there they love having him as
39:23
Speaker 1: governor So, you know, but you can't have everything. You
39:27
Speaker 1: can't have everything. Sometimes you got to make a trade-off
39:28
Speaker 1: for your country. So maybe he is a good pick.
39:30
Speaker 1: We'll see. It's up to the president on that one.
39:33
Speaker 1: In the United States Senate, I want to bring you
39:35
Speaker 1: now to an update on the Save America Act. What's
39:39
Speaker 1: going on with that? Is that going to happen? Are
39:42
Speaker 1: we going to gavel in today? Sure we are.
39:45
Speaker 3: Here we go.
39:45
Speaker 1: The Save America Act today. There is some chatter right now.
39:50
Speaker 1: You know, John Kennedy, Senator John Kennedy says he's going
39:53
Speaker 1: to put Save America Act priorities into the reconciliation package. Yeah, yeah,
39:58
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'll believe it when I see it. I
40:00
Speaker 1: don't think we'll see it because I don't think it
40:02
Speaker 1: can survive being a part of the budget process. We've
40:04
Speaker 1: talked about this quite a bit. But there was an
40:07
Speaker 1: article this week from an outfit called Punchbowl. And It
40:13
Speaker 1: was about how John Thune is trying to navigate this
40:17
Speaker 1: world where Republicans like you and conservatives like us want
40:24
Speaker 1: the Save America Act passed. And John Thune doesn't know
40:28
Speaker 1: how to deal with you. John Thune is overwhelmed by you.
40:33
Speaker 1: And so Punchbowl's got this piece. They say it's a
40:35
Speaker 1: multi-front pileup for John Thune. And they say Thune is
40:41
Speaker 1: dealing with a MAGA onslaught over the Save America Act.
40:45
Speaker 1: A MAGA onslaught. You see that, ladies and gentlemen? You're
40:48
Speaker 1: a part of a MAGA onslaught. Congratulations to the onslaughters
40:52
Speaker 1: out there. It's a relentless push to gut the filibuster.
40:57
Speaker 1: And an Iranian war that's exacerbating affordability concerns, they say.
41:03
Speaker 1: It's giving Democrats new ammo. Unique set of challenges, yada, yada, yada.
41:08
Speaker 1: And then here's John Thune. They've got their limitations and
41:10
Speaker 1: so do we. So we've just got to figure it out.
41:13
Speaker 1: Inside the conference, the Save America Act is a touchy subject.
41:19
Speaker 1: Is a touchy subject. The bill, which requires photo ID
41:23
Speaker 1: and proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections, this
41:26
Speaker 1: is bare minimum stuff, doesn't have a path to passage,
41:30
Speaker 1: says Punchbowl flatly. That's not true. It would have a
41:33
Speaker 1: path to passage if you guys would find your knots
41:36
Speaker 1: and pass it. If we would establish a little bit
41:38
Speaker 1: of testicular fortitude, boom, we could pass this thing. But
41:42
Speaker 1: you lack that. They've gone through a bunch of gender-affirming
41:46
Speaker 1: surgeries in the Senate Republican Conference, which has prevented them
41:50
Speaker 1: from having the testicular fortitude to do this job. But
41:53
Speaker 1: that hasn't stopped some Senate Republicans, namely Senator Mike Lee.
42:00
Speaker 1: Mike Lee. Oh, that Mike Lee. What a menace that
42:05
Speaker 1: Mike Lee is. Mike Lee.
42:08
Speaker 9: Oh, no.
42:09
Speaker 1: He's so scary. Mike Lee. He's been ginning up anger
42:12
Speaker 1: at Thune among MAGA followers online. Thune decided to hold
42:17
Speaker 1: a prolonged floor debate as a way to placate conservatives.
42:21
Speaker 1: You see this? What did I tell you they were doing?
42:23
Speaker 1: Head pats. Placation. There you go, Sonny. We talked about it.
42:30
Speaker 1: and indirectly try to prove that their preferred method of
42:33
Speaker 1: passing the bill, the so-called talking filibuster, was unrealistic. was unrealistic.
42:38
Speaker 1: Trump made it even harder for Thune. Oh, that Trump,
42:41
Speaker 1: he's so dastardly. By injecting an issue into the debate,
42:45
Speaker 1: restricting mail-in ballots, that deeply divides Republicans. Why does it
42:49
Speaker 1: deeply divide Republicans? Is anybody asking these questions? Why in
42:54
Speaker 1: the hell would making mail-in ballots believable, credible, legitimate, why
43:01
Speaker 1: would it divide Republicans, you psychopaths? Democrats led by Senator
43:07
Speaker 1: Alex Padilla exploited those divisions. Remember Padilla? Remember Padilla? He
43:12
Speaker 1: tried to assault Kristi Noem. He charged the stage and
43:15
Speaker 1: he got tackled and he tried to turn himself into
43:17
Speaker 1: the victim. Big Jussie Smollett event. Suddenly, any attempt at
43:21
Speaker 1: a messaging vote to make Democrats look unreasonable for opposing
43:24
Speaker 1: voter ID was no longer as effective. A messaging vote.
43:28
Speaker 1: We don't want a messaging vote. We want a real vote.
43:31
Speaker 1: Yet Thune on Monday said the Senate might return to
43:33
Speaker 1: the controversial bill after reconciliation. Why is it controversial? You
43:40
Speaker 1: see how I have to read these dumb stories? I
43:42
Speaker 1: read through them and then I'm like, what? What does
43:44
Speaker 1: that mean? What are you talking about? Why are you trying?
43:48
Speaker 1: People say it's pronounced Padilla. That's not true. That's incorrect.
43:52
Speaker 1: This is officially Padilla, ladies and gentlemen. Where did this start,
43:57
Speaker 1: this Padilla thing? Yes, there are people out there whose
44:00
Speaker 1: names are Padilla. That's true. This guy's name is Padilla.
44:04
Speaker 1: It's Padilla, okay? Just to be super clear. Don't mess
44:07
Speaker 1: it up. Okay, they say here, it's unclear whether MAGA
44:11
Speaker 1: World and Lee, who is calling for nuking the filibuster
44:15
Speaker 1: to pass SAVE, would be satisfied with an additional floor debate.
44:20
Speaker 1: Here's a GOP senator. This is the quote, ready? John
44:24
Speaker 1: is playing footsie with MAGA on the SAVE Act. He's
44:29
Speaker 1: playing footsie with you. I don't want to play footsie
44:32
Speaker 1: with freaking John Thune. I don't want to play footsie.
44:34
Speaker 1: Not interested in footsie. Footsie, we did that. When was footsie?
44:37
Speaker 1: Footsie was like, you know, 10 years old. When were
44:40
Speaker 1: you playing footsie? You're not playing footsie now? Footsie's over.
44:43
Speaker 1: We're not interested in footsie. We want you to pass
44:46
Speaker 1: the freaking SAVE Act. No more footsie. John is playing
44:50
Speaker 1: footsie with MAGA on the SAVE Act, said a random
44:52
Speaker 1: Republican senator. Nothing he does will ever satisfy them. Them,
44:58
Speaker 1: meaning you. Nothing John Thune does will ever satisfy you.
45:02
Speaker 1: Is that true? Is that true? Nothing John Thune could
45:10
Speaker 1: ever do would satisfy you? That's not true. There is
45:17
Speaker 1: something he could do that would satisfy me. Pass the
45:21
Speaker 1: freaking SAVE Act. No footsie. Pass the bill. Nothing he
45:29
Speaker 1: does will ever satisfy them, said a Republican senator who
45:32
Speaker 1: is granted anonymity to deliver a candid assessment. Why are
45:38
Speaker 1: we carrying on with this charade? Said a Republican senator anonymously,
45:47
Speaker 1: like a bitch, to Punchbowl. Why are we carrying on
45:53
Speaker 1: with this charade?
45:55
Speaker 5: I'll tell you why.
45:59
Speaker 1: Because we want it. Because the American people want it.
46:04
Speaker 1: We're sick of your crap. Yes, that's right. Cutesy time
46:08
Speaker 1: is over, says Carnage25. Cutesy time is over. We want this.
46:17
Speaker 1: And we know you exist, you anonymous Republican senator. We
46:20
Speaker 1: know people like you exist. This is the source of
46:23
Speaker 1: our great frustration. That We have to fight the Democrats,
46:28
Speaker 1: and then we have to fight some untold number of
46:32
Speaker 1: establishment Republicans who have such a low regard for their
46:36
Speaker 1: own base that they engage in efforts to pat us
46:39
Speaker 1: on the head and placate us and get us to
46:42
Speaker 1: go away so that they can get back to the
46:44
Speaker 1: business of corruption rather than to the business of the
46:48
Speaker 1: American people. Making America great again also means making the
46:53
Speaker 1: Republican Party great again. We have to clean it out.
46:58
Speaker 1: We have to do a controlled burn. Mike Lee, to
47:02
Speaker 1: his credit, is also outraged by this. He reacted to
47:06
Speaker 1: this quote, it's a charade. The Save America Act is
47:10
Speaker 1: a charade. Protecting our elections is not a charade. It
47:13
Speaker 1: is a priority. Here's Mike Lee uncorking on this anonymous
47:17
Speaker 1: senator and pegging whoever it is for exactly the kind
47:22
Speaker 1: of person he is.
47:23
Speaker 2: Watch. Supposedly, one of my colleagues called the effort to
47:28
Speaker 2: pass the Save America Act in the Senate a charade. Well,
47:33
Speaker 2: my guess is that whoever said that but didn't have
47:36
Speaker 2: the guts to put their name to it is somebody
47:38
Speaker 2: who's a co-sponsor of the Save America Act, who openly,
47:42
Speaker 2: actively tells his constituents that he's a co-sponsor of the
47:46
Speaker 2: Save America Act, and maybe even tells donors that in
47:49
Speaker 2: order to raise funds. Regardless, this isn't going away.
47:51
Speaker 1: I'm not going away.
47:52
Speaker 2: This thing's not a charade. And I'm doubling down on this.
47:56
Speaker 2: I'm going to work twice as hard just because you
47:59
Speaker 2: said that, whoever you are.
48:04
Speaker 1: Something has happened in Mike Lee's psyche. I don't know
48:09
Speaker 1: if you've noticed it too. Mike Lee has reached a
48:16
Speaker 1: new level of aggression here because he is getting frustrated
48:21
Speaker 1: at unseen levels. Mike Lee is, he's kind of, he's
48:26
Speaker 1: such an even keeled guy. He's a fighter, but he's
48:28
Speaker 1: even keeled. He's always, he's always just sort of down here.
48:32
Speaker 1: Something lately has him ticked off at an unseen level.
48:36
Speaker 1: And I love it. I love the energy. Not because
48:39
Speaker 1: I love that he has to be ticked off. I
48:41
Speaker 1: just love that he's in the fight and that he's
48:43
Speaker 1: staying on this bone. John Thune does not want Mike
48:46
Speaker 1: Lee doing this. The last thing this goon anonymous senator
48:50
Speaker 1: wants is is Mike Lee getting out there and releasing
48:55
Speaker 1: more messages to the public about what the inner workings
48:57
Speaker 1: of the United States Senate are right now. The Senate
49:00
Speaker 1: has gone for years without you knowing, or at least
49:03
Speaker 1: to the extent that they could suppress it, trying to
49:05
Speaker 1: hide how they actually function internally. And now the guts
49:08
Speaker 1: are all over the place. We can see everything. And
49:11
Speaker 1: we're watching this and going, no, no, no, we're going
49:13
Speaker 1: to clean this up. We're your parole officers now. We're
49:15
Speaker 1: going to hover over your every action. We're going to
49:17
Speaker 1: keep an eye on what you're up to until you
49:19
Speaker 1: act do what you're supposed to. And so here's Mike Lee.
49:23
Speaker 1: Mike Lee, a guy who not that long ago thought, like,
49:25
Speaker 1: we have to preserve the filibuster. We've got to preserve
49:28
Speaker 1: the rights of the minority in the Senate. This is
49:30
Speaker 1: really important. He's done with this because he sees the
49:33
Speaker 1: writing on the wall. This is what we were talking
49:35
Speaker 1: about yesterday in the wake of the Virginia vote. You
49:38
Speaker 1: have to recognize what time it is. If you fail
49:40
Speaker 1: to recognize the time that's on America's clock right now,
49:43
Speaker 1: then you need to get the hell out of the way.
49:45
Speaker 1: Here he is saying, it's done. I don't care what
49:48
Speaker 1: it takes. We either use the talking filibuster, we blow
49:50
Speaker 1: up the zombie filibuster, as he calls it, the silent filibuster.
49:54
Speaker 1: I don't care. By any means necessary, we have to
49:56
Speaker 1: get this done. Do something. Cut four. Mike Lee, watch.
50:01
Speaker 2: Senate Democrats are using unprecedented obstruction and use of the
50:05
Speaker 2: zombie filibuster in order to get their priorities. It's working
50:09
Speaker 2: well for them. You know, they got all the departments
50:12
Speaker 2: and agencies and the federal government funded that they like.
50:15
Speaker 2: But then somehow they refuse utterly to cooperate on any
50:20
Speaker 2: spending bill that would fund the Department of Homeland Security.
50:23
Speaker 2: So we're having to reinvent the wheel, go through a
50:25
Speaker 2: very elaborate process just to fund this one department whose
50:28
Speaker 2: success is material, indispensable to our national security and to
50:32
Speaker 2: President Trump's agenda. We're having to go through this process
50:36
Speaker 2: that actually takes weeks to complete just so we can
50:38
Speaker 2: pass it with a simple majority of votes. Here is
50:41
Speaker 2: the problem. All this is a symptom of our refusal
50:44
Speaker 2: to enforce the talking filibuster. If we were to enforce
50:47
Speaker 2: the talking filibuster, we could exhaust them and get to
50:50
Speaker 2: the point where they either provide us with the 60
50:52
Speaker 2: votes we need or they get lazy, they get sloppy,
50:55
Speaker 2: they exhaust themselves, and eventually we find a way to
50:58
Speaker 2: get it passed.
51:00
Speaker 1: If we're willing to do that, great.
51:02
Speaker 2: It's probably the way we ought to do it. It
51:03
Speaker 2: protects debate to use the talking filibuster. But if we're
51:06
Speaker 2: not willing to use the talking filibuster, it's time to
51:09
Speaker 2: nuke it. Why? Look, this zombie filibuster thing that we're using,
51:13
Speaker 2: which is sort of the opposite of what the filibuster
51:15
Speaker 2: is supposed to do and supposed to be, not only
51:18
Speaker 2: is their obstruction with it unprecedented of late and causing
51:23
Speaker 2: all sorts of problems, but it's inuring disproportionately to the
51:27
Speaker 2: benefit of the Democrats. Not something we want to be
51:30
Speaker 2: doing in these rare and often fleeting moments when we've
51:33
Speaker 2: got Republican control of the Senate, of the House, and
51:37
Speaker 2: of the White House. So let's either enforce the talking
51:40
Speaker 2: filibuster or nuke the zombie filibuster. You can't have it
51:43
Speaker 2: both ways. Let's get this done. We will continue running
51:47
Speaker 2: around this like it's just on a hamster wheel until
51:51
Speaker 2: we fix the problem. I don't really care that much which.
51:53
Speaker 2: I'd rather enforce the talking filibuster, but I'm not willing
51:57
Speaker 2: to do the hard work of that. For the love
51:59
Speaker 2: of Pete, let's nuke it.
52:02
Speaker 1: You know, when the filibuster was founded, as Mike Lee
52:05
Speaker 1: clearly was getting out there, the whole point of that
52:10
Speaker 1: cloture vote, achieving a level of support in the Senate
52:14
Speaker 1: that would allow the bill to be passed in the
52:16
Speaker 1: first place, to go to an actual vote, the whole
52:19
Speaker 1: reason was to create the conditions for robust debate. That's
52:24
Speaker 1: what the filibuster was supposed to be. This is why
52:27
Speaker 1: it exists. It's for extended debate on the subject so
52:32
Speaker 1: that you could cobble together consensus in the Senate around
52:36
Speaker 1: the legislation and then put it to an up or
52:39
Speaker 1: down vote. Yes or no, do you support this legislation?
52:44
Speaker 1: That is not the current state of the filibuster. The
52:47
Speaker 1: current state of the filibuster is no debate at all.
52:50
Speaker 1: That bills don't even see the light of day. It's
52:55
Speaker 1: a perfect perversion, a perfect inversion. of what the Senate
53:00
Speaker 1: is supposed to be doing in its legislative business. Screw that.
53:05
Speaker 1: Hell with that. And so any person who's there to
53:09
Speaker 1: protect the institution, you're sabotaging the institution by destroying debate.
53:16
Speaker 1: You're sabotaging it by not allowing legislation to even be considered.
53:21
Speaker 1: And you're sabotaging the institution in order to protect yourselves
53:25
Speaker 1: and your own political careers and reputations. And the reason
53:28
Speaker 1: I say that is because the filibuster, the silent filibuster
53:31
Speaker 1: in its current form, has been a convenient way for
53:35
Speaker 1: senators not to have to engage with politically sensitive legislation.
53:40
Speaker 1: anything that they think might blow back on them for
53:43
Speaker 1: having to deal with it all. The reality is in
53:46
Speaker 1: the Senate, both parties have been very comfortable with the
53:49
Speaker 1: silent filibuster because they love not having to put their
53:52
Speaker 1: name on the record in any capacity because they want
53:55
Speaker 1: the voters to view them as merely a blank slate.
53:58
Speaker 1: They don't really want a record for voters to dwell on.
54:02
Speaker 1: That's the last thing that they want. So all of
54:05
Speaker 1: these like politically sensitive things, they try and hide from it.
54:08
Speaker 1: That's it. And so don't tell me you're protecting the
54:11
Speaker 1: institution of the Senate by upholding the silent filibuster. You're
54:15
Speaker 1: betraying the entire institution, which is another way of saying
54:19
Speaker 1: you're betraying the country. You're betraying the purpose that the
54:22
Speaker 1: founders arranged in the first place in the Constitution. It's gross.
54:27
Speaker 1: And so Mike Lee is right to fight here. And
54:30
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see he's staying on that hamster wheel.
54:32
Speaker 1: It's super important that he does that. Super, super important
54:37
Speaker 1: that he does that. Um, okay. Finally in the United
54:40
Speaker 1: States Senate, uh, yesterday, um, you want some, you want
54:43
Speaker 1: some fun stuff out of the Senate yesterday? I can
54:45
Speaker 1: show you some fun stuff. Let's get, let's get some
54:47
Speaker 1: fun stuff here before we, we depart the program, uh, today. Uh,
54:51
Speaker 1: RFK Jr. was testifying yesterday before the, uh, before the Senate.
54:58
Speaker 1: And he was subjected to a lot of stupid questions
55:00
Speaker 1: from Democrats. And among them was, uh, Senator Tina Smith, uh,
55:06
Speaker 1: who tried to turn, uh, the HHS booting people off
55:09
Speaker 1: of federal benefits into a scandal. And RFK said, yeah,
55:13
Speaker 1: those are illegal aliens. They should be cut off. Here's
55:17
Speaker 1: that exchange yesterday with Tina Smith. RFK, talking about a
55:21
Speaker 1: great guy in the administration. Watch this.
55:23
Speaker 9: Recommending zeroing out funding for Title 10, which would eliminate
55:28
Speaker 9: screenings for cervical cancer and would almost certainly result in
55:33
Speaker 9: higher unintended pregnancies.
55:36
Speaker 4: Can I respond to some of your earlier statements?
55:39
Speaker 1: Please.
55:40
Speaker 10: First of all, there are no cuts in Medicaid. I
55:43
Speaker 10: keep saying this. Here's what the CBO said. Fiscal year 2025,
55:47
Speaker 10: $ 668 billion. Fiscal year 2036, $ 981 billion. That's not a cut.
55:55
Speaker 10: It's a 47% increase.
55:57
Speaker 9: A trillion dollars in cuts, according to the CBO. Seven
56:01
Speaker 9: million people losing their health insurance because of the Trump
56:05
Speaker 9: administration actions. That's not debatable.
56:08
Speaker 10: There's nobody who is legally enrolled in Medicaid who is
56:12
Speaker 10: losing coverage.
56:13
Speaker 1: That is just not true.
56:14
Speaker 4: That is just not true. It is so.
56:16
Speaker 1: It's true. How can this be a cut?
56:19
Speaker 9: How else would you like to respond to my questions
56:21
Speaker 9: about why the administration is cutting preventative care?
56:25
Speaker 4: We're putting a lot of it is being returned to
56:27
Speaker 4: the states.
56:28
Speaker 10: We're doing a $ 667 billion block grant to the states
56:35
Speaker 10: for mental health.
56:36
Speaker 9: My counties are asking why the cost shift to their
56:39
Speaker 9: taxpayers is happening at the same time that rural hospitals
56:43
Speaker 9: are going out of business, Secretary Kennedy.
56:46
Speaker 10: The states administer the programs better than we do. So
56:49
Speaker 10: we're giving the same money to the states to administer
56:52
Speaker 10: the program.
56:53
Speaker 1: That is not the way it is working. So what
56:55
Speaker 1: they're saying here, and you see Eric Daugherty writes it
56:58
Speaker 1: on his ex-post, They're cutting off illegals. They're cutting out fraud.
57:01
Speaker 1: They're cutting off foreigners. And Democrats are trying to turn
57:04
Speaker 1: this into a scandal. Have you noticed that Democrats only
57:06
Speaker 1: freak out when their fraud is exposed? That all of
57:09
Speaker 1: their freak outs consist of exposing their fraudulent operations, the
57:13
Speaker 1: theft of taxpayer money. It's really amazing. Here's another great
57:18
Speaker 1: moment yesterday. This is with a ridiculous senator, Ron Wyden,
57:23
Speaker 1: who tries to turn, tries to bring up the sexual
57:27
Speaker 1: abuse of children. He starts alleging that there's some sort
57:30
Speaker 1: of scandal happening under RFK Jr. And RFK goes, you
57:33
Speaker 1: want to talk about the sex abuse of children? How
57:35
Speaker 1: about on the watch of your party under HHS? Take
57:39
Speaker 1: a look at this moment yesterday. Watch.
57:42
Speaker 5: That a three-year-old girl was sexually abused in a foster
57:47
Speaker 5: home at an agency that you oversee. Are you familiar
57:51
Speaker 5: with this?
57:52
Speaker 4: No, I am not.
57:55
Speaker 5: You're the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and it's
57:58
Speaker 5: in a national publication. And you didn't know that a
58:02
Speaker 5: three-year-old girl was being sexually abused on your watch?
58:06
Speaker 10: I can tell you there were tens of thousands of
58:10
Speaker 10: girls and boys who were sexually abused. The Biden administration
58:14
Speaker 10: lost 425,000 children, and you never complained.
58:18
Speaker 5: Whose job is it to inform you of something like this?
58:21
Speaker 5: Because this, to me, is an unconscionable case.
58:25
Speaker 10: Yeah, but why weren't you worried when he lost 425,000 children?
58:28
Speaker 4: I read this. Why are you suddenly worried? I read
58:30
Speaker 4: this in the newspaper.
58:31
Speaker 10: Why are you suddenly worried about sexual abuse of children
58:35
Speaker 10: now and trafficking when it was mass promoted under the
58:39
Speaker 10: Biden administration? where they gave 425,000 children to adults without identification.
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Speaker 7: I'm asking the questions here, and this was in a
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Speaker 7: national publication seen by millions of people, an unconscionable example
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Speaker 7: of mistreatment of a three-year-old, and you don't know anything
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Speaker 7: about it.
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Speaker 1: This is selective indignation.
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Speaker 4: It's very dishonest, Senator.
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Speaker 5: We have been working on this for years.
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Speaker 10: Why don't you help us find those children who are lost,
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Speaker 10: still lost?
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Speaker 4: We found 138,000. We're working on this right now.
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Speaker 1: Now, and we'll have additional.
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Speaker 5: opportunities to talk to you.
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Speaker 1: Listen, he's like completely impervious to the English language. This is,
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Speaker 1: RFK keeps asking him like, hey, what's the deal? What
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Speaker 1: about the 425,000 children? What about the half million kids
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Speaker 1: who went missing? What about all the kids who were
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Speaker 1: sexually abused on the watch of the Biden administration? You
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Speaker 1: said nothing, you incredible sack of crap. Look at this,
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Speaker 1: like cadaver asking him questions. And then pretending like he's
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Speaker 1: not getting responses here. He's getting responses. He just doesn't
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Speaker 1: like the responses because they expose the callous indifference of
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Speaker 1: the left. It's always power politics. It's not about the
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Speaker 1: well-being of kids. They abort a million of them a
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Speaker 1: year and they try and do it at taxpayer expense.
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Speaker 1: The last thing they care about is the well-being of children.
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Speaker 1: And if they make it out of the womb, they
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Speaker 1: try and groom them into believing that they're the opposite gender. Please,
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