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How the script gets flipped on male victims | HBR Talk 267 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk two sixty seven. How the script gets
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  flipped on male victims. I'm your host Hannah Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lauren
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  Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson to dig into a glaring gender based
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  double standard on the behavior of people and positions of authority and the vulnerability of
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  people under their control. But first, before we get to that, we've
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  com and the dropdown menu at the top of the page. So we recently
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  went over an article discussing the question how could people know if they were biased
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  against men? How would they identify discrimination against men? And you know,
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  we did find that in some countries people are a little more aware of this,
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  but in the United States wasn't necessarily that high on the list. It's
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  better than we thought it was, but not as good as say, some
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  of the some of them where third world countries are starting to figure out the
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  feminism is crap because they can't afford not to figure it out. But here
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  we've we've got some pretty blatant and obvious reasons we should be able to figure
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  it out if people were a little bit more aware of double standards. So
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  now we've we've also recently been discussing, you know, false allegations. That's
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  a regular topic here. It's one of my big personal topics because that's kind
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  of what got me connected with the movement online where I came looking for sort
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  of advice, help information, anything I could think of for a friend's case,
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  and discovered a whole community of men going through similar experiences in family and
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  criminal court. And so I thought this this article. It's we haven't really
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  talked much about this article, and I think I may be referenced at a
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  few times, but we really ought to go over it because it's a really
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  great piece of work and it really highlights something egregious in our society. So
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  this article is from a Voice for men, follows up on both of those
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  discussions in regard to a particularly vulnerable demographic male inmates in the prison system.
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  So prepare yourselves, guys. This is this is rage fuel. What these
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  guys are subjected to and how it is characterized just is ridiculous. The headline
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  is The New Yorkers Jeffrey Tubin, who I felt. I think he still
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  writes for The New Yorker. This is, like I said, this is
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  a seven year old, nine year old article. But the New Yorkers Jeffrey
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  Tubin says cynical and devious male inmates abused female guards. Let's just let that
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  I'm thinking I would love to know how, um, who's in control here
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  and what is and if and if this is well, I know this is
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  not actually what this part because this is uh where this is from a Voice
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  for men, Right, he's citing an article by Jeffrey Tubin in which Jeffrey
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  Tubin did say that. Okay, so if if that is true, then
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  Jeffrey Tuban see what I did there? Uh? Yeah, doesn't that mean
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  that women aren't really fit for the fucking job? Yeah, that would be
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  true. I mean if if the male guards can handle handle it but the
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  female guards can't, um, that's that does indicate that the female guards are
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  doing an inferior job. How about your diversity and inclusion puts human lives at
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  risk? Well? And and actually, when you think about it, based
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  on the diversity standards, the standards that we get from from these people who
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  like to advocate for so called diversity and inclusion, prison population is the most
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  diverse population in the country. Yeah, it's almost entirely black and mail.
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  That's not diverse though. But yeah, that's that's the sad thing. Um,
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  we do have a much higher population of black and Hispanic prisoners than any
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  other group, and now we're hearing that they're so powerful and magical that they
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  can abuse their captors. So the basis for the article in twenty thirteen,
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  it says last year, but this, like I said, the articles from
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  twenty fourteen. So in twenty thirteen, the Department of Justice completed its study
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  of sexual abuse and adult prisons and juvenile facilities. And I also wrote an
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  article for Honey Badger Radio about this because for the Honey Badger Brigade blog about
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  this, by the way, because we looked at the juvenile statistics and it's
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  just as bad as the adult statistics. In fact, it's worse because here
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  you're talking about adult women with underage boys. The paragraph goes on, it
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  wasn't a happy time for feminists. The studies showed that most of the sexual
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  abuse of inmates is committed by guards, and most of that is committed by
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  female guards. Female wrongdoing, particularly sexual wrongdoing, is the type of thing
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  feminists prefer to keep out of sight, since it contradicts their narrative of female
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  and innocence and male corruption worse coming as that information did in studies not subject
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  to their censorship, readers were able to draw conclusions free of feminist instruction.
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  So what to do, Well, if you're a del Mercier. Adele Mercy
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  was a professor at a university in Canada who Alison just commented on something that
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  she had published, and she had a sort of a slap fight with Alison
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  back and forth and threatened to sue us for publishing verbatim what she said.
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  Wow, did you not? She didn't do it typical, but she did
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  threaten it. So this this was part of that. Also, if you're
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  a dele Mercier, you simply drop all pretense of intellectual integrity and claim that
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  in the case of boys abused in juvenile facilities, they were asking for it.
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  Yes, if the sexes were reversed and maile commentators said the same thing
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  about girls abused by mail guards, Mercier would be screaming for his head on
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  a platter. But one of the many privileges of being feminist is freedom from
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  the inconvenient strictures of intellectual honesty. We just got a We just comment from
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  Richard Pierre gave us four ninety nine and said, were these female guards from
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  the US women's soccer team by any chance? No, if that was the
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  case, they would have been beaten by the mail in mains. Oh that's
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  awful. But yeah, that that whole discussion, And I'll probably at some
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  point I want to go over that article too, because there's some things in
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  that article that contribute to the discussion on adult perpetration of actual violence and allegations
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  against men as being incompetent at preventing themselves from engaging in sexual violence. So
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  so there's that. But but in regard to the Adele mercy a discussion,
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  like I still remember, we were all pretty pissed off about what she said,
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  because what she did was go through and say, well, actually it
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  was an abuse. There were gifts given, And she went on and described
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  grooming like adult grooming of an underage victim of sexual misconduct, whether it goes
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  from like the more minor forms of sexual conduct to full on rape. What
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  she described was essentially the guards grooming the underage inmates for sex, and then
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  the fact that the the grooming led the inmates to think of the relationship as
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  going both ways. Um made it made it Okay, that was That was
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  basically the way she described it. So of course Alison lamb based at her
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  and it was glorious, um and only the way it can be when Alison
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  does it. And and she threatened to sue us, and she went ballistic,
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  and Barbara streisand affected herself and and uh, and then her students claimed
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  to be part of Anonymous and threatened us. That never panned out because obviously
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  Anonymous doesn't threaten people for standing up for victims of That's just not a thing.
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  Anonymous doesn't threaten people for standing up for crime victims. That's never been
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  a thing. Um. You just so we made fun of them and that
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  kind of ended it. We mocked them, and when they realized that we
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  were just always going to answer them by mocking them, they quit, Like
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  you just you can't fight with somebody that does that, right, It's like
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  getting into an argument with pee wee Hermann. Right, they knew you were
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  but at infinity, sorry, but you lose, you suck. So that
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  was that. But that whole thing, the only reason that that whole argument
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  happened was because we were talking about male inmates. If female inmates experienced the
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  same percentage of abuse by guards and they don't. By the way, in
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  female detention facilities, whether adult or youth, the majority of victimization of sexual
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  misconduct is inmate perpetrated m and of the UM. Now, of the staff
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  they I think they have more male staff there UM and that that is,
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  uh, it's a minority of the abuse, but there are more male staffers
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  involved with the female um inmates. And you know, that was a that
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  was a mostly unmentioned thing in regard to the research, was like that the
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  male guards at the prisons where female inmates are housed were the minority among perpetrators
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  as opposed to the majority because the inmates were victimizing each other. And you
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  know with the when it's the guards and the inmates, UM, you know
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  you can tell the dynamic because of the power dynamic, right, so you
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  know, you know, feminists would not deny that it is a form of
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  victimization when it's a female inmate and a mail guard. When it's inmate on
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  inmate, Like, if they're complaining about being victimized, they're not talking about
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  a situation where somebody groomed them. They're talking about actual physical violence and threat
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  of violence. Coercion and stuff. So that's that's a totally different thing.
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  And the opinion people have had, the public view seems to have always held
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  that this is the majority of what takes place in mail inmates that you know,
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  well, yeah, there's there's a significant amount of prison rape, but
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  we don't count it in the statistics because that's just mostly inmate on inmate and
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  it's how they have sex. Well, no, actually it's female guards and
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  other staffers taking advantage of a captive population that cannot get away with hurting their
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  feelings or offending them or anything. So if they tell them no and the
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  women react the way women react when they are rejected, the men are in
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  danger. So there is violence or threat of violence there. Absolutely. So
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  it goes on so much for the juvenile facilities, But what about the adult
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  ones. We now have our answer. It appears that it appears in a
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  New Yorker article by Jeffrey Tubin. Now, Tuban barely mentions the DOJ studies,
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  but his article is plain plainly in answer to the uncomfortable questions they raise
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  about the sexual abuse of male inmates by their female guards. Unsurprisingly, Tubin
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  pedals the standard feminist line that somehow the sexual connection between the men in cages
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  and the women who hold the keys was a matter of what else male power
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  and female helplessness. Those poor helpless female guards with the keys to the cells.
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  I mean, god, whatever did they do? I mean they all
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  they did was show up to work, Hannah. I mean, this is
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  a workplace harassment situation now, right, Like they can go to hr Oh
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  yeah, ridiculous, re goddamndiculous pants on fucking head. Stupid. But then
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  again, I would expect nothing less from Jeffrey Tuban. Yeah, this is
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  this is really the sad thing about this is uh. I mean, we're
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  talking about probably one of the most powerful positions you can be in outside of
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  say being an authority over the general population. Like teachers have power because you
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  know, they can affect students education, but you can go to a different
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  school, right. Employers have power because they can affect your progress at a
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  particular job, but you can get a different job. Right. You don't
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  easily get transferred in the prison system, And even if you do get transferred,
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  if a guard is angry with you, your reputation follows so it or
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  precedes you. Even so, there's if a guy gets in wrong with the
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  guards at a prison, no matter what recourse he has the rest of his
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  career, there is going to be hell yeah, right, And it's not
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  just you know, they can be mean. They can write him up and
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  affect how long he has to stay if he's you know, they can accuse
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  him of misbehavior. You know, he was making noise at night, he
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  was saying rude things, he was doing this, he was doing that.
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  They can accuse him of all kinds of misconduct, and that there are little
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  punishments and big punishments that get handed out for different types of misconduct. And
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  I mean, if you have areas of the prison that are off camera,
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  it's not hard to do something like that to somebody. They can be extra
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  rough with him. They can lie to the mail guards and have the mail
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  guards be extra rough with him. You know, they could give another prisoner
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  incentive to assault. So a guy is under a lot of pressure. If
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  if a female guard does not like him or does like him, and he
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  is not wanting to comply, he can be in deep shit. Yeah.
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  And so the scariest thing that I just thought about during this whole conversation is,
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  you know a lot of these women, these female guards also have children,
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  and imagine growing up in a household like that with a person like that
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  who would exert that level of power and really just cruelty. And yeah,
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  you know, we don't know what the reason percentage of female guards is involved,
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  but we do know that that the greatest percentage of abuse is perpetrated by
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  female guards, right, right, But just the idea that you can do
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  something like that to someone who is helpless, right, It's people like that
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  belong nowhere in well many systems in our society, but I would say first
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  and foremost the criminal justice system, because they just don't they don't really have
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  a firm sense of what is right and what is wrong. Because when you
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  can insert your own moral justifications for things, yeah, or the lack thereof,
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  you know, then you shouldn't really have that level of power over people.
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  Or they don't care, they don't care what's right or wrong, you
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  know. Right. I look at this, and you know, like you,
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  you can't possibly not realize that, especially in the modern world, you
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  can't possibly not realize. There's been discussion for for decades about this, like
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  seventy years of feminist activism on this claiming that if there is a power dynamic
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  and relationship and a so called relationship where one person has a significant amount of
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  power over the basic aspects of another person's life, your ability to continue in
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  your employment, your ability to come and go as you please, any any
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  kind of you know, how much do you get paid, whether or not
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  you continue in your education process, any of that kind of thing. That
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  that is not a legitimate relationship, and the person in power is exploiting the
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  person beneath them. It's why college professors get censured if they have relationships with
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  their students while their their student is under them in class. Probably not the
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  best wording, but but yeah, like that, you can't you can't do
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  that as a professor. You can't do that as a school teacher, even
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  if your student is an adult. In some states, you can actually get
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  convicted of a crime for that, even if your student is an adult.
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  In the workplace, it's considered workplace harassment. A lot of workplaces have non
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  fraternization policies that basically you can't date in that workplace, or you can't date
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  a supervisor person in a supervisory position, even if they're not your supervisor.
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  Like, just all of that and yet what does Tubins say about this?
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  It says, unsurprisingly, Tubin pedals the standard feminist line that somehow the sexual
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  contact between the men in cages and the women who held the keys was a
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  matter of what else, male power and female helplessness. He doesn't waste much
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  time getting to the point, just six hundred words into a fifty two hundred
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  word article, which is why we're not reading his article. Tuban says,
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  cynical and devious men succeeded in dominating women who were normally they keepers. Can
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  I clarify this is the same Jeffrey Tubin who who was called jacking it on
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  a zoom call. Yes, got like like a year of paid le Even
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  then he just came right back, Yeah, yes, yeah, I mean
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  I am law of work. Projection never misses, definitely. And here's where
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  I'm going to read Richard Bierre's next comment. He gave us a dullar ninety
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  nine and says, maybe this justifies paying women less? Yeah, like and
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  you know, and again I can't argue with that. It doesn't say anything
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  about them dominating them in this way, but paying paying women less wouldn't keep
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  them out of this role, right They wouldn't keep them out of these positions,
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  right, That's kind of the bottom line. What needs to happen is,
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  I mean, I don't know how you do this with like prison guards,
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  but I mean it's it's much like with the military. They reduced the
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  goddamn standards for women to get in. Yeah, right, that needs to
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  fucking change. But I just I don't know what the requirements are to be
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  a prison guard, so I want to start there, but god damn it,
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  I think there needs to be some more extensive like background information into like
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  maybe there's mental health. I don't don't. I could tell you from a
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  family experience, you can become a prison guard right out of university if you
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  have some training in law enforcement. You don't have to have a large or
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  particularly muscular physique. You don't necessarily have to have any kind of training in
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  combat or handling like they train you and that kind of stuff. But to
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  be like certified in anything, you do have to if I remember, right,
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  you do have to have some sort of certification in the law enforcement field,
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  but I don't think it was you don't have to be a cop.
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  And I've actually had a coworker that was a guard in a juvenile facility too.
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  He didn't. I don't think he has that same background. I don't
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  think he's a police officer and like as far as his training goes, but
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  he also had law enforcement training, like he's a probation officer for juveniles now,
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  So like I this is you basically have to be qualified to do that
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  kind of work. But it's that as far as the background check is concerned,
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  if you've never been caught perpetrating, a background check is useless. Background
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  check doesn't catch somebody before their first time committing a crime, and it doesn't
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  catch crimes that are committed in ways that are are geared toward avoiding discovery.
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  So it'll it won't catch a personality. It'll catch a history of commission of
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  crimes, a history of abuse, um that that's been documented. So it's
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  hard to catch women that way. But they could do other things that you
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  know, psychological testing, UM, they could do what in my profession,
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  if you if we have female clients, um, female patients and healthcare also
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  sometimes depending on where you work, they don't allow if it's a situation where
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  the patient or the client is particularly vulnerable to abuse, to to sexual abuse
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  like some some don't have a sense of their own privacy, and it can
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  happen with senile dementia and the elderly, and it can happen with some types
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  of intellectual disability. They just don't put men with as helpers working with those
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  women, and that way there can't be a problem, they think, because
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  they don't consider women capable of that type of abuse. The problem is they
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  don't do the same thing for men, and that's here in the story we're
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  reading. It makes it pretty obvious the same thing needs to be done for
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  men. On the other hand, it may be difficult to fill those positions
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  if they don't hire women. Maybe they're just not paying enough to attract enough
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  men to do that job. And maybe they're imprisoning too many men. Yeah,
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  all good questions. Yeah, but it's just amazing cynical and devious men
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  succeeded in dominating women who were normally their keepers, women who can rank them
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  up and get them in trouble, women who can accuse them and be taken
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  seriously where their word will not weigh as much in any hearing they go through
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  because their inmates somehow were dominated by these men in cages. I'm befuddled by
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  the logic that people who are so convincing couldn't keep their ass out of jail.
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  Yeah, but they can convince these rational, normal thinking females that they
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  should. Yeah. I don't get it. It doesn't work out in I
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  can't compute. They couldn't dominate the judge, that's what it is. Yes,
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  too bad they didn't get a female judge, your honor. Wink wink,
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  nudge nudge. No, I don't think that would work either. So
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  how does he manage the feat of turning the base metal of facts into the
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  gold of feminist mythology. It wasn't easy. Indeed, I'd say he failed
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  altogether. His evidence for the proposition is the thinnest gruel. But I suspect
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  it'll be enough to nourish those who've swallowed the feminist kool aid. Against a
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  backdrop of women clearly acting in their own self interest, Tubin cobbles together a
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  very sorry mishmash of self contradiction and intellectual hocus pocus that would make anyone but
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  a feminist blush. The Baltimore City Detention Center BCDC is over two hundred years
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  old. It's located in a high crime part of the city and houses over
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  two thousand male inmates awaiting trial, sometimes for months or years. Those inmates
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  are seen by are overseen by six hundred and fifty correctional workers. Almost all
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  Yeah, almost all of the inmates and guards are African American and the most
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  powerful gang in the place is called the Black the Black Gorilla. That's g
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  U E r r L the family. Plus it's their name for themselves.
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  It's not somebody else's name for them. So but that just for the podcast
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  listeners who cannot see the text. It's gorilla like guerrilla warfare. So these
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  guys are militant. UH guards are mostly and and no, they were not
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  giving themselves a racist name. UM Guards are mostly called from the surrounding community
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  and few of them, few few men there qualify. Yeah, yeah,
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  I guess that would be another or factor's If it's placed in a high crime
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  neighborhood then and most of the crime in the neighborhood is going to be committed
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  by gang members that takes up most of the men in the neighborhood. There
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  aren't very many men in the neighborhood that would want to do that job that
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  would qualify and I imagine being a man in that neighborhood working in that prison
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  would make you a target among men who live in the neighborhood outside of the
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  prison who are connected to people inside the prison. Yeah. Guards. Guards
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  are mostly called from Yeah, and the job requires a high school diploma,
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  clean youer in, and a clear criminal record, leaving most local men looking
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  elsewhere for work. About seventy five percent of the guards, about four hundred
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  and eighty seven people are women. Fuck's sake. Now, that balance is
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  not the same in the jew an old system. When when I looked into
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  the the Bureau of Justice UM statistics on the juvenile prison system, female guards
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  overall across all of the juvenile detention facilities that were studied, Um, we're
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  like forty five percent of the guards something like that was less than fifty percent,
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  But they were responsible for for ninety five percent of sexual misconduct, so
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  at least the misconduct that was reported by inmates. Yeah. Good lord.
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  And just to remind everyone, this is Baltimore, So I I can totally
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  see that because Baltimore is just I mean, you want to talk about a
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  shit hole. If Baltimore could be a country, it would be a Shiitthhole
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  country. It's just so dilapidated and overlooked, overgrown, forgotten. I mean,
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  the government in that city absolutely ransacked the residents, and um, there's
• 32:21
  no wonder that people are fleeing at the rate that they are. You know,
• 32:25
  if you have ever driven down the road in Baltimore, I mean,
• 32:32
  it's you better have gas in your car. And I'm not even joking.
• 32:37
  I'm not even joking. You better not run out of gas in Baltimore on
• 32:44
  the wrong street in the wrong time. It's it's it's bad. It's what
• 32:52
  I would imagine that, like Chicago is like, but I don't know,
• 32:55
  I don't it's it's it's horrible that they about so when they described this situation
• 33:04
  where you know, to be eligible to have this job, you know,
• 33:09
  you have to a high school diploma. We know there's gonna be more women
• 33:16
  than have the I can't even imagine that in Baltimore, because, good God,
• 33:23
  the kids in that school systems. It's a wonder that anyone is even
• 33:30
  graduating legitimately. I mean, part of the reason that happens is because standards
• 33:36
  are are lowered in some school systems, and right I wasn't aware of this
• 33:40
  until my dad told me this story years and years ago. He had a
• 33:45
  student when he was a fairly young teacher. Actually, so this is not
• 33:51
  a new problem. Like my dad started teaching in nineteen sixty sixty eight or
• 33:59
  sixty nine on an emergency certificate and then went back to school for a year
• 34:04
  to get his actual teaching certificate and then taught ever since. So so we're
• 34:10
  we're talking a long time ago. But he he had a student that came
• 34:15
  from an inner city Chicago school to a small community to go to their school
• 34:27
  system, and he was doing well in his class in Chicago, but he
• 34:34
  was so far behind the students in the small community that he needed tutoring and
• 34:39
  he caught up, you know, like Dad helped him catch up. And
• 34:45
  this this I don't know if this was when he was actually teaching or if
• 34:47
  this was when he was tutoring when he was in high school. But in
• 34:52
  any case, I'm not going to tell you who the young man was because
• 34:55
  he's a business owner now and it's not a small business. But in any
• 35:00
  case, this is this is the difference between city schools and smaller community schools.
• 35:10
  You have about half the students in the bigger city schools, their parents
• 35:15
  really don't care what's going on at the school, or they're not in a
• 35:19
  position to demonstrate that they care. And you get both, you get both.
• 35:25
  And I had a friend who was teaching in the Dayton public school system
• 35:30
  for a few years and one of her students, and we're not talking like
• 35:36
  a high school kid here, we're talking a young student elementary school, pointed
• 35:39
  that out to her that she had. They were lining up I think for
• 35:45
  a fire drill or something. They had to go out the door and they
• 35:47
  had to go in an orderly fashion and had to be quick, and about
• 35:52
  a third of the class just would not line up. They were just little
• 35:57
  Hellians. And the other kids were just standing there watching them and watching the
• 36:02
  teacher try to round them up, and they knew better than to participate because
• 36:07
  they didn't want to get bullied later for it. But the one student just
• 36:12
  turned to her and said, you know the difference between us and them,
• 36:15
  And you know, my friend says, what's that? And the kid broke
• 36:19
  her heart. She goes, our parents love us. And it's like,
• 36:25
  at at the age of you know, elementary school age kid, this kid
• 36:30
  understood that those kids were ignored by their parents. Those were Those were kids
• 36:37
  who if the teacher brought treats for the class, they would wrap the treat
• 36:42
  up in a napkin and save it for after school so they would have something
• 36:45
  to eat that night. And so you have in a lot of neighborhoods like
• 36:52
  that, you have the school to prison pipeline isn't just greased by teacher prejudice.
• 36:58
  It's also greased by local socioeconomic situations. And those local socioeconomic situations also
• 37:07
  are the school to gang pipeline. Even if the person doesn't go to prison,
• 37:13
  and they do predispose in particular, the boys in that neighborhood two outcomes
• 37:19
  that are not advantageous for them, and they're not advantageous for the community.
• 37:23
  So it is hard are you going to find male guards in a situation like
• 37:29
  that? Baltimore is probably not abnormal as big cities go in the United States.
• 37:32
  Right now we are a mix of first world country with a bunch of
• 37:42
  third world areas. Like we had people in Michigan experiencing lead poisoning in their
• 37:52
  city water because the city wouldn't fix the water they couldn't afford it. The
• 37:58
  state wouldn't give them a grant. Federal government wouldn't give him a grant.
• 38:01
  People had to fight for the right to have the water system they are taxed
• 38:07
  to maintain provide them with water that was not poisonous. Meanwhile, in the
• 38:16
  state of California, Nancy Peloshi sitting on about what good three hundred million dollars
• 38:27
  in restorative funding for projects that just never materialized, and it just bull God.
• 38:39
  I don't know what it's going to take to shake these people awake and
• 38:45
  realize. I think a lot of people do real at least I would like
• 38:49
  to think a lot of people do realize what's happening. But I think their
• 38:52
  anger and their frustrations are misdirected, right, They're not really They're not really
• 39:02
  going after the people who are putting these laws in place and and and putting
• 39:12
  these kids in this situation where this is how their life goes. Right if
• 39:16
  we if we didn't have such a high male prison population, it would be
• 39:22
  quite a bit easier to manage them without having sexual predators watch over them.
• 39:32
  So I have a I have a little bit of a knit to pick with
• 39:42
  this whole school to prison pipeline thing, because I think a lot of the
• 39:45
  place, a lot of the blame gets placed indirectly. Right, Um,
• 39:53
  it's not who is putting these children into the system, it's the women men
• 40:00
  who are having these children, who can't afford to feed them, properly,
• 40:05
  house them, properly, clothed them, properly, care for them properly on
• 40:09
  their own because of you know, through some through no fault of their own,
• 40:15
  but a majority through their own direct decisions. Right. So, when
• 40:22
  you have a bunch of children who are living in poverty, you are you
• 40:29
  are putting your children in these situations for them to grow up in. Right.
• 40:34
  The single mothers they go to work, they have to work two or
• 40:37
  three jobs or to feed their kids. Well, who then is there to
• 40:42
  take care of your kids after the school is done with them? Right?
• 40:46
  You send them off to school so that they can raise your kids, and
• 40:51
  then it's so easy to place the blame on this system that use your child
• 40:57
  too. Oh yeah, right, Well, one of the things the ACLU
• 41:02
  fails at, like they're they're the ones that coined the term school to prison
• 41:07
  pipeline. And I would say that it isn't it's not an incorrect term because
• 41:12
  it's something that came about as in part as a result of um what do
• 41:19
  they call zero tolerance policies where they basically don't allow the adults to mentor the
• 41:28
  children. So you've had a spectrum of things happen. First of all,
• 41:31
  the increase in impoverished single custodial motherhood. And the reason they say custodial motherhood
• 41:40
  is because this is a situation most of the time, when we're talking about
• 41:45
  the school to prison pipeline and the kids who experience it, we're talking not
• 41:50
  just about single moms, but single moms who have soul custody. Maybe the
• 41:54
  father isn't even in the picture. Maybe they haven't even told the father that
• 42:00
  he's a dad, Maybe they don't know who the father is. And that
• 42:06
  situation is we're not allowed to criticize that as a society. We're not allowed
• 42:12
  to say, what have you done to your child by denying your child a
• 42:16
  parental relationship, a parent child relationship with his father. Right? And then
• 42:22
  at on top of that, you know, you usually see this isn't happening
• 42:29
  in Nancy Pelosi's neighborhood, right. If it does happen in Nancy Pelosi's neighborhood.
• 42:34
  That chick has a nanny and her family's there to help with the kids,
• 42:39
  and you know, there's other parents in the neighborhood that that maybe team
• 42:45
  up with her to help with the situation. And maybe it's happened because you
• 42:49
  know her her husband died unexpectedly, or cheated with a maid and left,
• 42:55
  you know, but you like, depending on what kind of relationship she had
• 43:00
  with him. But in any case, it's not she hooked up with some
• 43:07
  guy, doesn't know him, doesn't know anything about him, never bothered to
• 43:10
  follow up with him, had a baby in and just moved on. And
• 43:15
  so in those neighborhoods where it's more common for that to happen, then you
• 43:21
  also have the situation where the kids are running wild in the neighborhood when they're
• 43:23
  not in school. They're fending for themselves against older kids and the criminals in
• 43:29
  the neighborhood that are adults. They're getting recruited as drug dealers and by gang
• 43:36
  members who are older than they are, and they're getting pressured with the understanding,
• 43:42
  this is the only way you can be safe in this neighborhood. If
• 43:44
  you don't become one of us, you will not be safe, and as
• 43:49
  a kid, you don't necessarily have the logic to recognize, gosh, if
• 43:53
  I become part of this gang, I will eventually get shot and says not
• 44:00
  it's necessarily safer. You don't have somebody that you can go home to and
• 44:04
  say, you know, Mom, I'm in trouble. These guys are pressuring
• 44:07
  me to join a gang because mom is busy, and you're afraid you're going
• 44:12
  to get in trouble with her for being pressured, or she may give you
• 44:15
  the worst possible advice. Well, you do what you got to do.
• 44:20
  Bring in some money. We're starving, and whose fault is that hers?
• 44:25
  Right? So on top of that, then we have the situation of,
• 44:30
  you know, again, if this were to happen in Nancy Pelosi's neighborhood,
• 44:35
  there'd be fifty summer programs for those kids, reading programs, math programs,
• 44:40
  recreational programs where there would be trustworthy adults and the kids would be getting engagement
• 44:49
  with mentorship and so on. In a neighborhood where you know, you have
• 44:54
  the single mom who doesn't know who the dad is and is poor and and
• 45:00
  you know, thinks of herself as unfortunate who starts those programs. It's not
• 45:06
  the neighborhood moms, right, it's not. It's not anyone in that neighborhood.
• 45:13
  So it's not anyone who's personally invested in the welfare and outcomes of those
• 45:17
  kids. And they don't bring people from in the neighborhood to mentor those kids.
• 45:23
  They're strangers from outside the neighborhood. There're people nobody in the neighborhood knows.
• 45:29
  How do you know if you trust those people? Right? And if
• 45:32
  the moms who are the ones that are you know, letting their kids run
• 45:37
  wild, aren't checking on their kids when there are no programs, are they
• 45:44
  really going to check into the people that are running those programs, you know?
• 45:49
  So it's it's one of those situations where the kids get the kids get
• 45:54
  no mentorship, they get no protection from from criminal elements, they get no
• 46:01
  assistance in and learning how to navigate the world that they're in, right,
• 46:09
  and then they go to school and let's say, you know, a little
• 46:15
  Bob misbehaves in school and his mom is one of those moms that doesn't really
• 46:23
  care about him, is busy, maybe she's working, maybe she's doing work
• 46:31
  under the table, you know, and maybe she's doing illicit work under the
• 46:37
  table, right, she doesn't want to come into school. So when you
• 46:40
  get disciplined in school, the school contacts your parents, she's going to come
• 46:45
  in and throw a screaming fit. And more often than not, it's you
• 46:49
  know, you can't punish my child. There's nothing wrong with my child.
• 46:51
  My child didn't do anything. He doesn't get the benefit of Okay, maybe
• 46:58
  don't do that, that's not a good idea. Or you know, maybe
• 47:02
  maybe mom finds out he was in a fight and then doesn't stand up for
• 47:08
  if he was defending himself against an attack by the other kid, right,
• 47:14
  So you get you get the situation where these guys don't have anybody to stand
• 47:17
  up for them, They don't have anybody to mentor them, they don't have
• 47:21
  anybody to guide them. And when they find a teacher in the school that
• 47:25
  is willing to try to guide them, the teacher gets in trouble, you
• 47:30
  know. And and then there are teachers who prey on these kids too,
• 47:36
  you know. I like there's been in the last few years, there's been
• 47:39
  six or seven stories that have just I've just randomly run across about teachers in
• 47:45
  the Dayton metro area right right around me that have gotten busted for not just
• 47:53
  molesting a student, but doing so in an environment that the writer of the
• 47:59
  story deemed us sex party. Like literally, you know, um an orgy,
• 48:09
  and we're we'ren't talking underage kids Jesus. So it's when we say school
• 48:19
  to prison pipeline, it sounds like we're talking about this really simplistic. You
• 48:22
  know. The kids are they go to school and they don't get what they
• 48:25
  need at school, and then when they get disciplined, the discipline is too
• 48:29
  harsh, and schools do call police on on ridiculous things like a kid not
• 48:35
  wanting to take their jacket off because they're cold, you know, or um,
• 48:39
  a kid getting attacked by another kid and running into the wrong room when
• 48:46
  they run away and you're not allowed to go in there, call the cops.
• 48:51
  You know, just stupid things that I've heard of. UM, A
• 48:54
  kid bringing their um their band, marching band, UM, what's it called.
• 49:05
  They they're the the the baton twirlers and stuff in the marching band.
• 49:09
  But this marching band had these wooden replicas of rifles, Like it was a
• 49:19
  very obvious from it even a distance that this is not a gun. It's
• 49:22
  just a piece of wood that is shaped vaguely like a gun, and it's
• 49:28
  designed to be twirled around and you know, um pointed in different directions and
• 49:32
  looked cool on the football field. And she didn't take it out of the
• 49:36
  trunk of her car, and somebody found out it was in there and they
• 49:38
  called the cops on her. Oh my god. Yeah, noo, it's
• 49:45
  not even our otc It's it's literally it's the baton twirlers. I can't think
• 49:51
  of what they're called, um, the flag core um there, there's another
• 49:55
  name for him, but I mean, yeah, it wasn't even a peanut
• 50:00
  butter and jelly sandwich like sewed into the shape of the gun. Yeah.
• 50:07
  So yeah, you know, there's there's this whole spectrum of things that are
• 50:12
  taken place in our schools and the neighborhoods around them that do lead to a
• 50:19
  lot of young color guard. Master Rode got it as color guard. That's
• 50:22
  correct, That's what I was trying to think of, And and it just
• 50:29
  it does result in particular and a lot more boys ending up in the juvenile
• 50:32
  detention system. You know, it used to be this is before I was
• 50:38
  a student, well, even when I was a student, if one of
• 50:43
  the kids wasn't already on probation, If a couple of guys got into a
• 50:45
  fight in the hallway in school, the school handled it. They did not
• 50:50
  call police. The boys got detention. Or if one of them clearly started
• 50:54
  it and the other one was just defending himself, the the instigator got detention
• 50:59
  and the other one went to the school nurse. Um, you know,
• 51:02
  and they both did if they needed to, and the nurse was there every
• 51:06
  day. And now you know you have that system. You also have another
• 51:12
  system situation happening in schools where they're not allowing students that need emergency medications like
• 51:19
  asthma inhalers and EpiPens and stuff to carry them because of years of drug Yeah,
• 51:24
  I'm I'm not this is this is not even new. This is at
• 51:28
  least twenty years old. Now, um, this has been happening. So
• 51:34
  if you have an inhaler, an emergency inhaler that you're supposed to use the
• 51:37
  minute and asthma attack starts, you have to go get it from the school
• 51:43
  nurse in the middle of the asma attack. Now, you if you carry
• 51:46
  an epic and in some school systems they don't have an exception um. Same
• 51:52
  with an EpiPen, So if you are allergic to something badly enough that you
• 51:57
  need an EpiPen, you have like five minutes if you're lucky, if you're
• 52:01
  really lucky, to use that EpiPen before the allergy will kill you. It
• 52:07
  causes your immune system to stop your heart and suffocate you to death, and
• 52:13
  was accompanied by incredibly painful inflammation of all of you, all of your soft
• 52:22
  tissues. You know, I've been through this, I've been in anaphylactic shock.
• 52:25
  It's usually you don't remember things that happen when you were four years old,
• 52:30
  and I remember this very, very vividly. It hurt so bad and
• 52:35
  it was terrifying, And the only non painful part of that memory is looking
• 52:42
  back and realizing that the doctor was not promising to do a trick. He
• 52:45
  was telling my parents if if my body didn't start reacting to the medicine,
• 52:50
  he was going to have to trake me. So it was a very serious
• 52:53
  situation, and fortunately I was in the hospital already, so an EpiPen and
• 53:00
  well was an epi syringe was immediately available. But in a school system,
• 53:07
  you know where you might it might take four minutes to walk from the part
• 53:13
  of the building where the allergy happens, like the cafeteria, to the other
• 53:17
  part of the building where the school nurse is, and they just send the
• 53:21
  student with someone else to walk with them, or they send a student to
• 53:24
  go get it and bring it back, or they send somebody to go get
• 53:28
  the nurse. Like that, the amount of time it can take to get
• 53:32
  that medication to the student, it is way too long. And then on
• 53:36
  top of that, in some school systems, the nurse isn't there every day,
• 53:43
  and there have been students who have died and their parents have sued the
• 53:46
  schools because their student died in school due to the lack of a present school
• 53:55
  nurse, making their inhaler or their EpiPen unavailable. Girls reason number five million
• 54:07
  and twenty one that I could not have kids. I don't know what I
• 54:12
  would do if my child was in need of medicine that was available to him
• 54:17
  to save his life and it took it just took too long because he couldn't
• 54:23
  have it on him on his person. I mean, and I like,
• 54:29
  I literally went to school every day from the time I was thirteen until I
• 54:31
  graduated with an inhaler in my pocket. I mean, I carry mine every
• 54:38
  day. I don't know what I would do if somebody tried to look at
• 54:40
  me in my face and tell me that I couldn't have it. Fuck you,
• 54:45
  I don't need then, I don't need to be here. Yeah,
• 54:50
  oh my god. I only ever had one teacher didn't understand the situation,
• 54:54
  and she got in big trouble. Ohio has a different guideline, and then
• 55:00
  a lot of other states. You can have it on you, but you
• 55:04
  have to have a doctor physicians. Note that says why, which makes sense,
• 55:10
  among other things. If you know, Billy passes out in class and
• 55:17
  the teacher is aware that Billy carries an EpiPen because he's allergic to bee stings,
• 55:23
  and then she realizes there's a bee in the classroom and Billy has a
• 55:27
  red spot, then she knows to use that EpiPen, you know. Whereas
• 55:31
  if the teacher has no idea what's going on and Billy passes out in class,
• 55:35
  she won't know what to do. So I wonder, I wonder,
• 55:43
  I don't know why my mind is going here, but I wonder if maybe
• 55:47
  somebody got attacked with an EpiPen, because what would happen if you injected someone
• 55:54
  that was not in an anaphylactic shock with an EpiPen, Like, what would
• 55:59
  happened? Well, what it does is it suppresses the immune response, and
• 56:06
  it kicks your um, your heart and your lungs and high gear. It
• 56:12
  would be a very unpleasant experience, but it wouldn't kill you. You could
• 56:17
  use an epipin on somebody and not kill them even if they weren't having it,
• 56:22
  but I would. You would still they would have to go to the
• 56:23
  hospital. You Now, if you had a young child like this happened to
• 56:30
  me when I was four, If I'd been hit with an EpiPen at four
• 56:34
  years old, I probably would have had a heart attack. I probably would
• 56:37
  have had a you know, And and if they have any potential for a
• 56:39
  stroke, that's also a risk. Yeah, but at a fully sized you
• 56:47
  know, somebody that weighs one hundred and fifty pounds or more um, that's
• 56:51
  it's less likely for them to you know, unless they have an underlying heart
• 56:55
  condition. That's it's less like, but it's it's definitely not an ideal situation.
• 57:00
  You still have to go to the hospital. To make sure you didn't
• 57:02
  have a heart attack or a stroke or some other you know, like if
• 57:07
  if you had any potential for um aneurysm or any kind of like basically a
• 57:14
  vein blowout. They just want to make sure you're safe, and you have
• 57:16
  to do that. If you use an EpiPen to stop an allergic reaction too,
• 57:20
  you still have to go to the hospital. Really, Oh yeah,
• 57:22
  yeah, it's it's very dangerous to epinefron is um it's as substitute for adrenaline.
• 57:32
  So when you know how when somebody else really loud and you jump and
• 57:37
  then afterward your heart like pounds for a few seconds, epinefron does that to
• 57:42
  you on a much bigger scale. Okay, so and it's now um it's
• 57:50
  it's similar also to the effectives like pseudo ephedrin, like it'll do they all
• 57:57
  do similar things, um decongest stance, And it's just it'd be like if
• 58:04
  you had a massive overdose on on some form of a fedra. It just
• 58:07
  it's not good for your system and it's not good to put your heart in
• 58:12
  that condition where it's like pounding like that. That's why people talk about adrenaline
• 58:16
  junkies and everything. Well, you're you're a lot more likely to have damage
• 58:23
  from that than you think. Not because your natural your body's natural system m
• 58:30
  does damage to itself just out of hand. But the human body is made
• 58:36
  to give itself a lot of energy in a situation where you should be scared
• 58:42
  and fighting back or trying to escape, but it's not intended to survive having
• 58:47
  to do that over and over again all the time. Yeah, so so
• 58:52
  there is that. But in any case, yeah, that that environment.
• 58:55
  So there's that that environment in which administrators care more about making policies that look
• 59:01
  good than they do about whether the kids die from from a health condition that
• 59:08
  we've been able to treat for like eighty years or so with with um a
• 59:16
  simple solution and like that, that is the situation that our students are going
• 59:23
  to school in. So what what what theoretically then would happen to a child
• 59:30
  that might spontaneously need CPR in the classroom like our teachers required to have be
• 59:37
  a CPR. Okay, So then now I would think in my mind right,
• 59:44
  the logical thing to do would be if your child has an EpiPen or
• 59:49
  an inhaler, if this is what you because it sounds like it's really mostly
• 59:53
  just for leality's sake, right, they just want to cover their ass in
• 59:58
  case something happened, you know, somebody oops, accidentally gets stuck with this
• 1:00:04
  pen. And now there's a whole situation. Right. Well, what if
• 1:00:07
  the student then checks their medication in with the teacher until their class is over?
• 1:00:14
  And see, you know, that's that's another one. You'd have to
• 1:00:16
  have the student carry in the medicine from class to class. Now, in
• 1:00:20
  early elementary school, it would it make sense to have the medicine in the
• 1:00:27
  classroom right right with the student. And that's that's what my school did.
• 1:00:35
  But in later you know, in junior high, in high school, a
• 1:00:39
  thirteen year old can keep track of their inhaler. A thirteen year old can
• 1:00:44
  keep track of an EpiPen. And a thirteen year old is believe it or
• 1:00:46
  not, aware of their own mortality and able to appraise the potential threats of
• 1:00:53
  I will not abuse this, I will not give this to somebody else,
• 1:00:57
  because if I need it and I don't have it, I'm fucked right.
• 1:01:00
  A thirteen year old can do that, A twelve year old can do that.
• 1:01:02
  In some cases, a ten year old can do that, right,
• 1:01:06
  But the schools do not trust the students to do that, and they don't
• 1:01:09
  trust the students to leave that kid alone and not take their medicine. And
• 1:01:15
  that's it's a really serious situation. And the solution seems to be to withhold
• 1:01:20
  the medicine from the kid. And just for the record, just so people
• 1:01:24
  understand the gender significance of this. Asthma affects boys more frequently than girls.
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  Boys with asthma more often have it more seriously, and there are more deaths
• 1:01:38
  of boys under these circumstances. They are less likely to be believed by their
• 1:01:45
  teachers and the school administrators, by the school nurse when they come in and
• 1:01:49
  say I can't breathe. And part of it is they're less likely to panic
• 1:01:53
  and cry. Girls panic and cry yeah so but yeah. And by the
• 1:02:01
  way, the other thing, when they give you an epy shot to the
• 1:02:04
  chest and you see that in the movies, and they always like, you
• 1:02:07
  know, they're right up and they're all energetic, and you feel like you
• 1:02:12
  got kicked in the chest by by a donkey and somebody stuck a straw in
• 1:02:15
  the back of your head and sucked all the energy out of you're just laying
• 1:02:19
  there going, oh my gott in. Your heart's pounding and you're just getting
• 1:02:22
  your oxygen back. Everything fucking hurts. You're not gonna get up and immediately
• 1:02:28
  be like rare and to go, you know, unless you were in a
• 1:02:31
  situation where you were in a panic. Um, if it's because of an
• 1:02:36
  allergic reaction, uh, that that doesn't work that way at all. They
• 1:02:40
  like, that's movie magic. It's not real. Um, it's not pleasant.
• 1:02:45
  You just wait until they're giving school kids the daily dose of fentiel instead
• 1:02:51
  of milk. It's going to get a great deal of icon breathe at that
• 1:02:53
  point. Then it's going to get blamed and all sorts of things other than
• 1:02:57
  the thing that you know, they might as well be. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:01
  they might as well be though. And this is something that you know,
• 1:03:05
  I was really vigilant against when my kids were in school because and they
• 1:03:07
  do this more to boys and girls. They've been drugging students since I was
• 1:03:13
  in school, and it was it was not as common for you know,
• 1:03:21
  early to mid gen xers, but as as we got into like the late
• 1:03:25
  part of gen X and the early part of the gen Y, millennial generation,
• 1:03:31
  you saw more and more instances where it wasn't the child's doctor saying,
• 1:03:38
  in response to the mother talking about particular behavioral symptoms, why I think your
• 1:03:44
  child has ADHD, Let's try this drug called riddling. It was school teachers
• 1:03:52
  and school administrators telling the mother, we can't keep your child under control if
• 1:03:59
  you don't put them on this drug. We're going to expel him and he
• 1:04:01
  can't come back and he won't get an education. And the mother's complying.
• 1:04:09
  They without question, they just go to the doctor. The school says,
• 1:04:12
  my kid. As add schools would even tell parents what doctors to go to
• 1:04:17
  to get the medication, and the whole classrooms would, like the South Park
• 1:04:24
  episode on this was not wrong. It was. It wasn't even I can't
• 1:04:29
  even classify at his parody and so like that. I was fortunate I did
• 1:04:34
  not have to fight that battle. But I, like I knew before my
• 1:04:38
  kid got into school that he was pretty normal in terms of energy levels and
• 1:04:43
  attention span and all that he didn't have like an especially good attention spanner an
• 1:04:47
  especially bad one. I was not going. I was ready to fight tooth
• 1:04:53
  and nail to keep him from being drugged for something like that. You know,
• 1:04:57
  now, if they'd come along and said, well, he's going through
• 1:04:59
  depression and that I would have taken very seriously because our runs in the family.
• 1:05:02
  But that that never happened either, Right when that happened, when when
• 1:05:09
  you know, he went through stuff like that, it was him who came
• 1:05:12
  to me and told me, not a teacher. And unfortunately, you have
• 1:05:15
  the situation where a significant portion of the students in the United States are drugged
• 1:05:25
  because their schools are recommending it. But then they won't let them take treatment
• 1:05:29
  for asthma, you know, where they won't let them carry emergency treatment for
• 1:05:35
  allergens that that may be common. You know, they'll they'll change the entire
• 1:05:41
  environment and tell you you can't send peanut butter sandwiches to school with your kid,
• 1:05:45
  but they won't let the kid with the peanut allergy carry an EpiPen.
• 1:05:50
  It's yeah, it's so stupid, it's so stupid, and it's unconscionable,
• 1:05:58
  you know what I mean. And these the people that claim to care about
• 1:06:00
  your kids, they do not. And then we wonder, then we wonder
• 1:06:06
  how they end up in you know, in an adult detention facility. Getting
• 1:06:12
  getting molested by the female guards. So in twenty fourteen, when this was
• 1:06:18
  written, the article said, there's currently a federal investigation underway into criminal activities
• 1:06:27
  inside the bc DC Baltimore Community Detention Center, and nine inmates and twenty seven
• 1:06:33
  guards have been indicted. And just just for the record, that does not
• 1:06:39
  mean that the nine inmates were sexually violating anybody. They may have been dealing
• 1:06:43
  drugs in the prison, because that actually happens a lot. There's there's whole
• 1:06:46
  businesses getting run in prison by Yeah. Much of Tubin's article relies on information
• 1:06:56
  gleaned from that that investigation, including wire taps and cell phones used by inmates.
• 1:07:04
  From the look of things, the BCDC was the wild West. Inside
• 1:07:10
  the walls and out, pretty much anything was for sale into the jail.
• 1:07:15
  I guess that answers my question, which was how the fucking inmates aren't supposed
• 1:07:21
  to have cell phones? But I guess anything is for sale. Yeah.
• 1:07:28
  Well, and see that's the thing. If um, if the prison doesn't
• 1:07:33
  have a rule against them having a thing, you know, and the guards
• 1:07:39
  allow it in or the administration allows it in, you know, a visitor
• 1:07:43
  can bring anything. I'll bet there were prisoners that had Obama phones, so
• 1:07:49
  like that was that was a thing. Um, they get all kinds of
• 1:07:56
  they all, they get all kinds of things. And then then you also
• 1:07:59
  have of yeah to then you also have people in the prison system who are
• 1:08:03
  in there because despite being highly book smart, intelligent, they're not very wise
• 1:08:13
  about the actions they choose, or they get involved with the wrong people,
• 1:08:17
  or they have no ethics or morals. Yeah, they make their own cell
• 1:08:21
  phones, you know, they make they make their own two way radios,
• 1:08:27
  they make their own ship they make. I mean, if you can,
• 1:08:30
  if you can understand the UM way the object works, what it takes to
• 1:08:36
  create one, you can make one. Yeah. So you know, like
• 1:08:42
  the IQ range in prison is probably closer to the lower end. There are
• 1:08:46
  people that are probably more UM disadvantaged, and that that does create a situation
• 1:08:56
  where they're more likely to get into trouble if they do something wrong, and
• 1:09:00
  they're more likely to to think they have to do something wrong in order to
• 1:09:04
  survive or not be able to get out of you know, if they're being
• 1:09:09
  um recruited into a gang and stuff like that. But there are people in
• 1:09:15
  prison who are absolute genius too, and fully capable of making their own electronic
• 1:09:20
  devices, including tasers. There have been guards that have been injured that way
• 1:09:26
  where somebody made a makeshift taser and tased the guard. Holy shit, I
• 1:09:30
  mean it results in you going into solitary. But you get you know,
• 1:09:34
  there there been incidents like that. What did you think was going to happen
• 1:09:41
  by well, I mean, I guess, but it probably feels pretty damn
• 1:09:44
  good in the moment if that guard was me to you, or you feel
• 1:09:45
  like that guard was me to you exactly, or if he was someone that
• 1:09:49
  was like coming after you and just really vindictive towards you and allowing certain things
• 1:09:57
  to happen, or you know, you know that a hit is about to
• 1:10:01
  come and you gotta take somebody. People. I don't know. I just
• 1:10:06
  know all I know is what I see on TV and gotten him. And
• 1:10:11
  this ship looks shady as hell well and any other thing representation right Like,
• 1:10:17
  it's not a nice place there. There's a lot of people out there that
• 1:10:20
  are looking to take advantage anyway, shape or form they can get it from
• 1:10:26
  you, and also be remember you know, it's said earlier in the article
• 1:10:30
  that the guards in the prison come from the neighborhood where the prison is,
• 1:10:35
  and it is a bad neighborhood. It's a rough neighborhood, right, So
• 1:10:41
  they're assuming that the women are qualified because they graduated high school. They're not
• 1:10:47
  considering the fact that there are female gang members and there are female gangs like
• 1:10:53
  there are they're gangs. They're not necessarily gendered, but there's whole whole female
• 1:10:59
  sides of the business and everything. There are female gang leaders. You know.
• 1:11:05
  That's you don't necessarily get a less criminal population when you're hiring from among
• 1:11:15
  women than from among men. You just hire from a population that's less likely
• 1:11:20
  to get caught. When they do get caught, they're less likely to get
• 1:11:24
  in trouble. When they do get in trouble, it's less likely to be
• 1:11:28
  as bad. Right, They're less likely to get convicted. They're less likely
• 1:11:33
  to even get prosecuted. Even if they get arrested, they're less likely to
• 1:11:36
  be heavily sentenced, and it's less likely to last on their records, so
• 1:11:41
  they're able to fly under the radar. So if a gang wanted to create
• 1:11:46
  a network in a prison system where they could get product and money to the
• 1:11:55
  men in the prison, they would do that by having some of the women
• 1:12:02
  in the gang become part of the prison system, you know, like as
• 1:12:08
  guards, as their prison librarian, as if there's a prison school of any
• 1:12:15
  kind, education system of any kind that's usually run by women, all of
• 1:12:21
  that. So yeah, they would, they would definitely have a network in
• 1:12:25
  there. So according to the research into the jail came tobacco, marijuana,
• 1:12:38
  prescription drugs, and food, most of it under the control of the Black
• 1:12:43
  Guerrilla Family and its headman, Tavon White. M Payment by and to the
• 1:12:49
  gang was handled via cell phones controlled also controlled by the BGF are. They
• 1:12:58
  use of Green Dot and money Pack debit cards, So for people who have
• 1:13:02
  never used those types of cards, when you buy like a Green Dot card
• 1:13:11
  or a money Pack card, you pay for the card, you pay the
• 1:13:15
  amount of money that's supposed to get put on the card, and it's immediately
• 1:13:19
  available for spending. You don't have to weigh any twenty four hour period or
• 1:13:24
  nothing, and it can all immediately be removed, so somebody can take it
• 1:13:28
  to an ATM or use it with a bank account on a computer and remove
• 1:13:35
  the money you get it, get the cash back, take it to a
• 1:13:39
  store, buy whatever they want, and I think in the prison system the
• 1:13:45
  commissary uses those cards, if I remember right that one, if that's the
• 1:13:54
  case, like that one was described to me by an individual who was in
• 1:13:58
  the system for a while. But those cars were also used by scammers.
• 1:14:05
  So for instance, if somebody wanted to get you know you, to get
• 1:14:14
  you for three or four thousand dollars, they might tell you that you won
• 1:14:17
  a Mercedes. And I had a customer this happened to when I worked at
• 1:14:20
  the pharmacy. She came in trying to buy a Green Dot card to pay
• 1:14:26
  the taxes on the Mercedes that she had won. And immediately I'm like,
• 1:14:31
  do you know the person that you're paying this to? Do you know the
• 1:14:35
  name of the company or anything. Have you checked this out? Because this
• 1:14:40
  is a very popular scam. Oh no, I've got a Mercedes coming to
• 1:14:43
  me, you know. And and eventually I got her to check into it,
• 1:14:49
  and she had been scammed for something like eighteen hundred bucks and was in
• 1:14:55
  the process of continuing to pay another another thousand bucks of of taxes on Mercedes
• 1:15:01
  that didn't exist. Oh my god. Um, that's that's game has been
• 1:15:06
  around for a while, all right, So like those cards are very unsecure,
• 1:15:15
  and gangs use them a lot. Um, terrorists use them, scam
• 1:15:18
  artists use them. They get used more by illegitimate purposes than by legitimate.
• 1:15:24
  Um. So yeah, they're very much and they're worried about bitcoin. They
• 1:15:30
  made this big fucking stick about bitcoin. It's gonna be used to you know,
• 1:15:34
  conductive legal trick. You mean like the regular fiat dollar, you assholes,
• 1:15:40
  And come on, j oh, the hypacricy, it just it burns.
• 1:15:45
  Yeah, yeah, it really does. Uh, it's it's just ridiculous.
• 1:15:51
  Um. But but yeah, that's basically so. In the prison system,
• 1:15:56
  they're using these cards too. As the major motive communications cell phones two
• 1:16:01
  become valuable contraband inside the jail, and it's it's not that hard to get
• 1:16:08
  a hold of one under the indifferent eye of the jail's administration. Businesses boomed,
• 1:16:13
  with inmates often making more money than they could on the outside. Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  And when you can get like you can get food, you can get
• 1:16:24
  cigarettes, you can get you know, drugs, you can get whatever you
• 1:16:27
  want in there. How how is that supposed to be rehabilitating anybody? Right,
• 1:16:36
  It's not. It's when you understand that it's a business instead of anything
• 1:16:44
  that they claim it's supposed to be. Yea other than keeping these people out
• 1:16:47
  of and again, this is not even keeping people out of society. If
• 1:16:51
  they can interact with society, that's the whole point. Holy shit, sending
• 1:16:57
  these motherfuckers to Romanian jail. You can't do shit over there. Apparently all
• 1:17:01
  that you can, well, I'm sure you can if you know the right
• 1:17:05
  people and you speak the right fucking language. But yeah, you pay the
• 1:17:10
  right bribes. Yeah, but this is just ridiculous. Yeah, it's almost
• 1:17:16
  like rehabilitation, isn't the point. It's not. It's not because it's God.
• 1:17:25
  It's just like the fucking medical profession. They don't treat you to heal
• 1:17:29
  you. They want customers. They want you to keep coming back. That's
• 1:17:34
  why the fucking recidimism rate is what it is. Right, So it goes
• 1:17:41
  on and and here's the here's another point to make all Right, So you
• 1:17:45
  got you got the guys that do that. You got the guys with the
• 1:17:47
  green dot cards and the cell phones and the drugs and the network of female
• 1:17:53
  gang members that they're working with and so on. Right, and those guys
• 1:17:59
  are in and out of the system doing whatever they want, not being rehabilitated,
• 1:18:04
  don't care, you know whatever. Then you got the guys who do
• 1:18:12
  one stupid thing and they end up in there for like eighteen months or something,
• 1:18:18
  and and they're trying to rehabilitate themselves or trying to get back on their
• 1:18:26
  feet and everything. And part of what they have to deal with in jail,
• 1:18:31
  part of what they have to survive is the empire created by these guys.
• 1:18:42
  So and for example, it says Trayvon White bought a BMW and a
• 1:18:47
  Mercedes Benz while in the bc DC one intercepted phone call and reveal what I'm
• 1:19:00
  saying. He netted over fifteen thousand dollars per month. Oh my god.
• 1:19:08
  And this is this again, written in twenty fourteen. If you worked at
• 1:19:13
  McDonald's, you probably made about fifteen thousand dollars a year a year, right,
• 1:19:19
  not bad for a man living in a cage. But of course,
• 1:19:23
  none of the contraband that was at the heart of the inmates enterprise made it
• 1:19:30
  into the jail without the guard's help. Guards enthusiastically participated in the sale of
• 1:19:36
  contraband inside the BCDC. Female guards smuggled the contraband into the facility, concealing
• 1:19:46
  it quote in their underwear, hair, internally and elsewhere, according to a
• 1:19:54
  government filing, elsewhere, internally and elsewhere. This this mean that when you
• 1:20:00
  go into a prison, like we know internally internally obviously in your mouth and
• 1:20:05
  you and your vagina and your ass right internally, but elsewhere has to be
• 1:20:15
  like they're bringing in bags, they're bringing in purses, Yeah, they're bringing
• 1:20:18
  in wallets, they're bringing in backpacks, and nobody's searching them, right because
• 1:20:24
  they're guards. Plenty of guards took part. Between sixty percent and seventy five
• 1:20:31
  percent of the female guards were involved in this smuggling and sale of contraband.
• 1:20:38
  Ess Christ, Jesus Christ, And here's the fucking kicker. Here's the fucking
• 1:20:45
  kicker. All right, let's say you hold all of these bitches up against
• 1:20:50
  the wall and say, fuck you, you lose your job. You have
• 1:20:54
  to go. Who they replacing them with people from the community. Well,
• 1:21:00
  but but where that's dominated by gangs or or or that's the thing they can't.
• 1:21:08
  So these people will get what a citation, a slap on the wrist.
• 1:21:12
  Are they really gonna get any kind of consequences? For this. Are
• 1:21:15
  they gonna lose their jobs? Absolutely fucking not. They make maybe they'll get
• 1:21:20
  sent home without pay for a couple of weeks, maybe a month or two,
• 1:21:25
  you know what I mean. But sixty to seventy five percent of the
• 1:21:29
  female guards, which they already said, with seventy five percent of the guard
• 1:21:34
  staff in total m in total. Yeah, he did the math. He
• 1:21:41
  said, that's between two hundred ninety two and three hundred and sixty five female
• 1:21:44
  guards joining the fund in prison system. This is just one prison out of
• 1:21:48
  many in the United States. And uh, yeah, it goes on.
• 1:21:56
  Why did they do it? Money? Of course? The limited supply I
• 1:22:00
  have all types of contraband inside the prison meant prices were stratospheric. A single
• 1:22:04
  gram of pot fetched fifty dollars or fourteen hundred dollars an ounce. Damn.
• 1:22:13
  Female guards supplemented their regular incomes by buying cheaply on the outside and selling dearly
• 1:22:18
  inside the walls. One guard, Andrea Rice, was recorded by the FEDS
• 1:22:24
  thus when I when I came back into jail, I'm like, shit,
• 1:22:28
  I'm not going to stop making my money. You feel me? I seen
• 1:22:31
  what the fuck was going on? Let Okay. When I came back into
• 1:22:39
  jail, I'm like, shit, I'm not gonna stop making my money.
• 1:22:42
  You feel me? Seeing what the fund was going on, asked a few
• 1:22:45
  people what was up and who was what? What was what? I'm just
• 1:22:48
  about my money, you hear me. I love money. I love it,
• 1:22:51
  swear to God jus. And this is a guard, she's not a
• 1:23:00
  prisoner. So again, these might have been arrested for crimes, right,
• 1:23:11
  These these men have been have been arrested for crimes. We know some of
• 1:23:14
  them may have been in there because of false allegations, but they've been arrested
• 1:23:16
  for crimes, right, They've been convicted. They've been put into a system
• 1:23:24
  that is intended to rehabilitate them, according to the description. I don't I
• 1:23:28
  don't believe the prison system is intended to rehabilitate. But that's what we are
• 1:23:30
  told. We are taxed to pay for this shit. This this uh imprisonment
• 1:23:35
  of these men on the idea that it will rehabilitate them or at least stop
• 1:23:43
  them from continuing to commit crimes. And these women who are the guards in
• 1:23:47
  this prison system are doing this for themselves with with you know, no benefit
• 1:23:58
  to the inmates in terms of rehabilitation and no benefit to the community at all.
• 1:24:04
  Right, the in my inmates just end up not having any reason to
• 1:24:10
  stop committing crimes. They may live their whole life in and out of the
• 1:24:14
  prison system in part because this shit's getting facilitated and they there's there's no downside
• 1:24:19
  for them. The BCDC was just the place for her. Rodney, a
• 1:24:30
  thirty nine year old former inmates, said they can buy a ten dollar pill
• 1:24:33
  on the street and sell it for a hundred dollars. Others spoke of cigarettes
• 1:24:38
  sold for a dollar apiece, a dollar a cigarette. Guards would buy percocet
• 1:24:45
  on the street for five dollars a pill or obtain it free through medicaid fraud.
• 1:24:50
  And this is another thing. In twenty fourteen, if you went to
• 1:24:56
  the hospital with an injury, it was easier to get percocet than it was
• 1:25:02
  to get zithromax. You know, you go in and complain of a sinus
• 1:25:09
  infection and tell them you know it's an infection and not allergies. Because it's
• 1:25:12
  painful and there's pressure. They don't they don't give you something to treat the
• 1:25:15
  infection, but that you get you get a prescription for vikinging like it's it's
• 1:25:20
  just crazy. That's not the same. I don't I don't think anymore.
• 1:25:25
  But it was back then, so guards would would get percocet and then sell
• 1:25:30
  it for fifty dollars a pill on the inside. Well, I don't understand
• 1:25:33
  is people on the inside. I'm just walking around with cash and they're certainly
• 1:25:39
  not paying for things with credit cards. So there's something we're not being told
• 1:25:44
  about this exchange, right, Apparently they are actually sell them for a hundred
• 1:25:48
  dollars, because no one in a prison just has one hundred, like physical
• 1:25:54
  dollars. Well, there's changing something else. I try to think what that
• 1:26:00
  even is. Well, you remember how this article started out. There is
• 1:26:06
  a bit of a sexual favorite things. But you also have, um,
• 1:26:14
  you know, if if these guards are preying on the prisoners sexually and they're
• 1:26:18
  treating that relationship as a legitimate relationship, they may be giving the prisoners money.
• 1:26:26
  Um, you also have prisoners getting this contraband and then they're selling it.
• 1:26:30
  The guy selling the contraband keeps his share, right, the guy selling
• 1:26:34
  it to the other prisoners keeps his share, and he has to pay the
• 1:26:39
  guard Like so everybody gets a cut, and there are prisoners in there that
• 1:26:43
  are walking around with money because of that, and people this happens through.
• 1:26:49
  It's either visitors there were somehow able to smuggle things through. Can they just
• 1:26:56
  bring it in in their pockets because they don't get checked. It's either that
• 1:26:59
  or the gods themselves. Yeah, the employees themselves. It's not an or
• 1:27:03
  situation. It's all of those. Yeah. I mean, in terms of
• 1:27:09
  businesses, surely they check their pockets. I mean, they could do it
• 1:27:13
  through through any given airports or court systems. Surely they do even more stringently
• 1:27:20
  in a prison. I mean, but if they get a tip off that
• 1:27:24
  somebody's coming in to see a certain inmate, then the guards can look the
• 1:27:28
  other way, you know, you send a tip down the line exactly.
• 1:27:31
  That's how it goes. You know, if there's a whole gang mafia thing
• 1:27:35
  going on in there, like this is the thing just rapists that they're also
• 1:27:44
  frauds, they're they're um organized criminals. This is what this article is.
• 1:27:53
  Organized crime in the United States is huge. Um. There isn't a city
• 1:27:59
  in the United States that does not have a major element of organized crime,
• 1:28:04
  both in the bad neighborhoods, you know, the high crime neighborhoods, and
• 1:28:12
  in its government system, and then in the prison system, organized crime exists
• 1:28:19
  among the inmates, the guards, and the administrators. There's organized crime involvement
• 1:28:30
  in our judicial system, in our law enforcement system, in our school system
• 1:28:40
  like this is and and this started with women. Prohibition opened the door.
• 1:28:48
  It's what made them, it's what made bootleggers popular, part of what made
• 1:28:57
  the mafia um powerful, and it created an environment that when drug prohibition came
• 1:29:06
  about also as a result of women demanding safety nets, that led to organized
• 1:29:13
  crime. When more drug prohibition came about, when it was expanded, we
• 1:29:18
  got more organized crime. And then we got the manufacturer of strange and weird
• 1:29:29
  things like crystal mess or out of that and more organized crime. And when
• 1:29:35
  the prison system became largely about managing the organized crime in the United States,
• 1:29:44
  it just became another system for organized crime to take over in use. And
• 1:29:49
  that's what we're looking at here. But in among that you still have again
• 1:29:59
  these these women who are part of this system of organized crime, who become
• 1:30:06
  sexually involved with the inmates. And it's not necessarily always inmates who are part
• 1:30:14
  of their organization, it's just whoever they decide they want. So all of
• 1:30:20
  this stuff that we're talking about here, all of this organized criminal activity,
• 1:30:25
  and it is pretty much like multi level marketing, but with guns and getting
• 1:30:36
  arrested when you get caught, if you're not already in the prison system,
• 1:30:41
  they don't have to arrest you. Then they just send you to trial for
• 1:30:44
  it. But with literally a captive market. So that's the other thing.
• 1:30:50
  Right, If you're addicted to something and you live in a neighborhood where you
• 1:30:59
  can come and go from your apartment, you can get a job, you
• 1:31:00
  can go to a rehab center and stay there and get clean, and then
• 1:31:04
  go back to your apartment and go back to work. If you discover that
• 1:31:09
  living in that neighborhood makes it difficult for you to resist falling off the wagon
• 1:31:16
  of your addiction, you can move to another neighborhood, get another job somewhere
• 1:31:21
  else, change your friend group, and maybe try to find ways to support
• 1:31:31
  yourself in maintaining a healthy lifestyle as opposed to indulging in the addiction. And
• 1:31:40
  if you're in prison, you can't do any of those things. You can't
• 1:31:42
  move to another neighborhood, you can't change your friend group. You know,
• 1:31:45
  like your friend group are the people that that you run with for protection to
• 1:31:49
  keep yourself from getting the shit kicked out of you by the other inmates or
• 1:31:54
  killed, so they don't. You can't just create a support system for yourself
• 1:32:01
  or build with other people a support system for yourself to get clean. It's
• 1:32:09
  a lot more work if you're in an environment where you're captive and this kind
• 1:32:14
  of shit is going on. So with literally a captive market and huge markups
• 1:32:20
  for all goods sold inside, it's no surprise that so many guards got in
• 1:32:25
  on the action. And this is this is one where I think most people
• 1:32:29
  are naive about this. The guards didn't come there, discover the situation and
• 1:32:33
  say I want to be part of this. I'm one hundred percent certain that
• 1:32:36
  some of those guards were part of the gangs on the outside that we're operating
• 1:32:45
  on the inside, and became guards in order to facilitate business, their agents
• 1:32:53
  essentially of the gang. Nor is it a surprise that some of the guards
• 1:32:57
  became sexually involved with inmates. Some percentage of women will always be attracted to
• 1:33:02
  the wealthy, the powerful, and the famous. That's true in everyday life.
• 1:33:08
  And it was true in the BCDC, where a clear hierarchy of inmates
• 1:33:13
  ruled as virtual potentiates, and some of them, like Trayvon White, were
• 1:33:17
  affluent as well as White bragged on the phone one day, I got elevated
• 1:33:24
  to this seat, where as though nobody in the jail could outrank me,
• 1:33:28
  like, I am the law. So if I told any motherfucking buddy,
• 1:33:32
  they had to do this, hit a police, do this, kill a
• 1:33:34
  motherfucker anything, it got to be done period. The guy basically could order
• 1:33:42
  hits from prison with power and money like that. They were they were coursed,
• 1:33:53
  they were manipulated by the men. Yeah, with power and many like
• 1:34:00
  this. It's no surprise that female guards would be attracted to White, and
• 1:34:02
  of course his inmate subordinates benefited from much the same type of privilege. Guards
• 1:34:08
  made good money and contraband that no one bought or sold without the permission of
• 1:34:14
  the b GF. Therefore, guards and the gang's chiefs had important financial relationships
• 1:34:23
  that those led to sex. Was like one domino knocking down another. Yeah,
• 1:34:30
  the guards seemed to have been very enthusiastic about sex with inmates. One
• 1:34:34
  of White's paramours. Jennifer Owens was recorded saying this, Oh jeez, this
• 1:34:45
  is going to piss you off too. We and my sisters, we was
• 1:34:48
  talking, right, So I said, you know what makes me stay with
• 1:34:51
  him sex? It's that I have two babies by him. Leave him for
• 1:34:56
  what? No one's going to give me sex like that? Yeah, I
• 1:35:09
  guess she's not attracted to accountants. One law review article describe the attraction inmates
• 1:35:15
  had regards this way. In reported narratives of women who became sexually involved with
• 1:35:21
  men in custody. They spoke of all the benefits of partnering that they were
• 1:35:26
  denied in relationships outside of custodial settings, and that they had access to inside.
• 1:35:30
  They described male inmates physical and emotional availability. They also described feeling in
• 1:35:39
  control of the relationship. Boy, did they sound victimized? Like you think
• 1:35:46
  about this right? The emotional availability really quick? All right? That is
• 1:35:50
  a man who knows, first of all, what side is bread is buttered
• 1:35:56
  on. You've got to butter this woman up because she is in control of
• 1:36:00
  him. Second of all, he knows where the threat comes from. What
• 1:36:08
  can she do to him if he doesn't make her happy? If he doesn't
• 1:36:12
  keep her happy, and they're the woman feeling in control of the relationship.
• 1:36:16
  But yes, you know, these cynical and devious inmates dominated these controlling and
• 1:36:24
  demanding women. Yeah, you know what, I think a bigger discussion needs
• 1:36:32
  to be had around women's sexual desires and their like they just don't really like
• 1:36:47
  that's their impetus for everything, right Like, and I think it's beyond the
• 1:36:55
  innate need or desire to procreate. Right. This is not that I think
• 1:37:02
  these women just want to be able to do whatever the hell they want to
• 1:37:08
  do. They want to be promiscuous, they want to be out here and
• 1:37:11
  just and their desire for this sex, right is it's a problem. It's
• 1:37:19
  a big problem because number one, it creates unwanted children. Number Two,
• 1:37:29
  you get yourself in risky situations. And then they turn around and blame the
• 1:37:33
  men, right like. Oh, and there's no accountability being given to them
• 1:37:41
  for it, right And it's that is why we are where we are in
• 1:37:47
  society, right because it's not her fault. Oh, she was she was
• 1:37:53
  just doing her she was just living her best life. Okay, well,
• 1:37:59
  living her best life. Her best decisions got her in the position that she's
• 1:38:03
  in. Now and now what she wants is a bailout program from society.
• 1:38:10
  When you think about this, that woman had two babies with a guy who
• 1:38:15
  was a career criminal, who was in prison, who was never going to
• 1:38:20
  be a normal you know, dad in the house, going to work,
• 1:38:26
  coming home, you know, hanging out, reading stories with the kids and
• 1:38:30
  playing baseball in the backyard. You know, he was going to go back
• 1:38:33
  and forth between the street in the prison system until he was in until death,
• 1:38:40
  until he did something that got him locked up for the rest of his
• 1:38:45
  life. That was that was his trajectory. And she wasn't doing anything to
• 1:38:51
  help him out of that situation. She was actually exacerbating it. She's making
• 1:38:57
  it worse, right, just making it attractive to remain in that situation,
• 1:39:01
  right. And and here you have these two kids, that's their parents.
• 1:39:10
  How are they going to grow up? What lessons are they going to learn
• 1:39:14
  in their home? What's their school life going to be? Like? When
• 1:39:17
  this news story came out, I wonder if any of their classmates read about
• 1:39:20
  their mom and their dad, And I wonder if it gave them a lot
• 1:39:27
  of embarrassment or street cred or both. Yeah, Like, what would you
• 1:39:34
  think if you were, you know, eight years old in elementary school or
• 1:39:40
  something like. She doesn't say how old her babies are, and a lot
• 1:39:43
  of moms talk about having babies when they're they're really referring to a twelve year
• 1:39:47
  old and a sixteen year old, you know, like, no, no
• 1:39:51
  idea how old these kids are. They could be anywhere from from an infant
• 1:39:56
  and toddler age to near adults, and and their mom would refer to him
• 1:40:01
  that way. So what if they're in school? Right? What if they're
• 1:40:05
  they're school aged kids and they learned that their mom just got fired from her
• 1:40:11
  prison job. Now they're poor because they don't you know, who's gonna hire
• 1:40:15
  this woman? I wouldn't, right, who's gonna hire this woman? And
• 1:40:21
  they're not gonna get money from their dad. He's in prison, he just
• 1:40:25
  got busted. They're fucked. Yeah, and how's their life going to be?
• 1:40:30
  And who's responsible for that? She is? Well she is, but
• 1:40:39
  will she be held responsible? Nope? They probably did not even look at
• 1:40:44
  whether those kids needed to live with somebody else. M h, God,
• 1:40:56
  just it's insane. It makes me so fun man um, Like I said,
• 1:41:04
  rage, rage fuel right here you are here we are, and this
• 1:41:09
  is this is our prison system in the United States. Right. So let's
• 1:41:13
  say that's going on, and you're a teenage boy who uh you know,
• 1:41:21
  maybe maybe you get recruited by a gang. Maybe you live in a smaller
• 1:41:25
  community outside that neighborhood and you get busted shoplifting, or you get into a
• 1:41:31
  fight and you get an assault charge pressed on you and you know you're you're
• 1:41:38
  just on the cusp of eighteen. So they decided to charge you as an
• 1:41:41
  adult and send you there. How do you rehabilitate yourself while you're in there?
• 1:41:48
  What chance do you have? How are you going to come out of
• 1:41:51
  there? When you come out of there, who are you going to be
• 1:41:54
  connected with? Right? You know? Like that's that. That's why when
• 1:42:00
  when I read about the prison system in the United States, I take it
• 1:42:04
  in small doses, one story to a time like this, because I get
• 1:42:09
  sick. I read about the way we treat some of the most vulnerable members
• 1:42:14
  of our population, young men, teenage boys, men in their twenties,
• 1:42:19
  men who have been roped into joining gangs, men who have been down on
• 1:42:26
  their luck, men get put in jail for being homeless in the wrong place,
• 1:42:30
  at the wrong time, right, and this is the system that's in
• 1:42:41
  place to help them. Really, astonishingly, neither Tuban nor the article or
• 1:42:50
  the author of the law of review article notices the obvious, the stark difference
• 1:42:56
  clearly described between love on the outside and love on the inside for those guards.
• 1:43:02
  Why would guards enjoy better relationships with inmates than with men in everyday life,
• 1:43:11
  because they had greater control over the inmates. They said so themselves,
• 1:43:16
  And it's intuitively true. After all, there were two thousand inmates to choose
• 1:43:21
  from, and if one didn't express the right kind of love and affection,
• 1:43:26
  another, surely would. The guards had the inmates under their thumbs in ways
• 1:43:30
  that were impossible elsewhere. But because those facts interfere with his narrative, Tuban
• 1:43:36
  misses the obvious. They say, rape isn't about sex, it's about power.
• 1:43:43
  And that's not necessarily true in a great deal of at least the cases
• 1:43:47
  that are wrongly cold rape. But when it comes to prisoners and those who
• 1:43:56
  imprison them, I mean that that's the one case in which has got to
• 1:44:01
  be true, in which is most likely to be true, because you have
• 1:44:06
  to be a bit of a psychopath to to enjoy sex more when it's coerced
• 1:44:15
  as opposed to when it's you know, mutually desired. I understand that there
• 1:44:25
  is such a mindset out there that makes that work, and they are generally
• 1:44:29
  psychopaths and sociopaths who happen to find themselves in situations where they can make that
• 1:44:33
  work and get away with it. It's what feminists would call, you know,
• 1:44:39
  men in any given situation. But it's it's it's it's what anyone who
• 1:44:45
  isn't blinded by this madness would call prison sex. You know, well,
• 1:44:55
  prison rape. That's not mince words. It's prison rape. We're going through
• 1:45:00
  all this, this this all sided with the headline of Jeffrey tub Tuben calling
• 1:45:04
  it abuse. Yeah. It Given the wide meaning of the term abuse at
• 1:45:14
  this point in history, that could mean like prisoners occasionally yelled racial slurs at
• 1:45:20
  guards, because that's what abuse can be. It could mean saying things that
• 1:45:26
  people don't like. But in this case, we're saying abuse as in prison
• 1:45:32
  rape, and we're completely flipping it on the prison rapists. This is all
• 1:45:39
  one big DAVO in the worst possible area in which you could even attempt to
• 1:45:46
  davo. But that's that's what it is. And this has been the case
• 1:45:50
  since nine years ago. The Davo attacks were normal back then when it was
• 1:45:57
  just feminism versus men. We've got to this whole other point. The people
• 1:46:02
  are getting distracted by the tendrils of this fucking organism and they're forgetting that it
• 1:46:08
  all started with feminists against men, and it's all happening because of feminists against
• 1:46:14
  men. Yep, we are. We are basically in a situation where a
• 1:46:20
  woman can take actions that would be understood as rape if a man did it
• 1:46:28
  to a woman, and be considered the victim, even though the actual victim
• 1:46:35
  can't say no, has no power, you know, he can't say no
• 1:46:41
  without consequences, serious consequences, has no power, knows that he has no
• 1:46:47
  power, knows that he cannot escape those consequences, and he knows they could
• 1:46:54
  be ongoing for as long as that woman is in his fear of existence,
• 1:46:58
  and he has no way to change whether she's in his sphere of existence as
• 1:47:02
  long as he lives. And yet she's the victim somehow, and he's a
• 1:47:09
  perpetrator like that that you have to have such ideological blinders, such a twisted
• 1:47:21
  outlook toward women and personal agency in order to to to make that, you
• 1:47:31
  know, your outlook, the idea that well, you know, it's it's
• 1:47:34
  the men's fault. The men made this happen. The women are victims of
• 1:47:36
  it. The men are perpetrators of it. Even though it's not like they
• 1:47:42
  could have just backed off and avoided it. It's not like they could have
• 1:47:45
  run away from these women. It's not like they could have said no to
• 1:47:48
  these women with that without repercussions. It's not like there's a system in place
• 1:47:53
  to protect them from these women. Right, they're actually under these women's control.
• 1:47:58
  But you know, it's still the men fault. Like you have to
• 1:48:00
  be a twisted person on the inside and maybe even on the outside to think
• 1:48:08
  that way. And if you think about like the women that talked about this
• 1:48:13
  in the story and the guy that talked about his money and everything, you
• 1:48:16
  think that guy would be sleeping with that woman outside the system if he was
• 1:48:19
  just anywhere he wanted to be, Like if he didn't have to be in
• 1:48:24
  jail, if he was just living in a house or an apartment somewhere and
• 1:48:29
  doing what he wanted with who he wanted, when he wanted. Do you
• 1:48:32
  think she would have been his choice? I don't you know. I think
• 1:48:40
  a woman who wanted to dominate her partner like that would have been the last
• 1:48:45
  woman he was looking for. So in short, female guards, according to
• 1:48:54
  objective facts and their own descriptions of their motivations, had a pretty good thing
• 1:48:58
  going. They rather are lavishly supplemented their salaries, got good sex with men
• 1:49:03
  they liked or in some cases loved in relationships. I hesitate to call that
• 1:49:10
  love. They may have craved those men, yeah, they may have been
• 1:49:15
  obsessed with those men. But if their criteria for their relationship is he can't
• 1:49:19
  get away, I'm in charge, Like, that's not love. Right.
• 1:49:29
  There's there's that that that old saying, if you love something, set it
• 1:49:30
  free. If it comes back to you, it was your, it's yours.
• 1:49:33
  If it doesn't, it never was. I think that's kind of describes
• 1:49:39
  how Mike feels about pets. Say that's okay, it's okay. How many
• 1:49:45
  people I would piss off if I said that? Well, I mean,
• 1:49:47
  you know, if it can be true about pets as sure as shit is
• 1:49:50
  true about people. Right, But in some cases loved in relationships they felt
• 1:49:58
  good about and that they couldn't have on the outside. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:50:02
  piss people off too. I think most women don't even understand love. Women
• 1:50:09
  will say men don't understand love. Right. But women will get mad if
• 1:50:15
  you forgot an anniversary of something other than the start of your relationship or your
• 1:50:21
  marriage. Oh, this is the anniversary of that special vacation we took that
• 1:50:26
  one time years and years ago, okay, And women will get mad about
• 1:50:30
  that, right. Women will get mad if you don't notice they got their
• 1:50:33
  hair colored a slightly different shade this time of red than the last time they
• 1:50:40
  got their hair dyed red. Right. Women will get mad about that.
• 1:50:43
  They will hold it against you, and you'll be in an argument ten years
• 1:50:45
  later, and she'll be like, well, you don't even look at me
• 1:50:48
  anyway. You didn't notice when I got my hair dyed auburn instead of copper?
• 1:50:55
  Like what, what what are you talking about? When did that happen
• 1:50:59
  ten years ago? Are you kidding me? You're bringing it up right now?
• 1:51:02
  Like that's women, right. Women will do that to a man who
• 1:51:06
  would die to protect them, right, A man who will beat his body
• 1:51:15
  up all day every day earning money to pay back the extended credit card bills
• 1:51:21
  that she's racking up, buying costs that are three feet too long for the
• 1:51:26
  windows, and getting her hair dyed, all these fucking different colors, right,
• 1:51:31
  that he just doesn't appreciate, he doesn't appreciate me. I'm gonna cheat
• 1:51:36
  on him with fifty guys online and that'll show him, you know, Like
• 1:51:41
  that's women. So I always say women don't understand respect, right, But
• 1:51:47
  I have to question whether most women truly understand love because they don't appreciate when
• 1:51:56
  a man comes home exhausted from from physical labor or from a job that is
• 1:52:03
  just boring as fuck. You know, you have to watch this dial for
• 1:52:09
  eight hours, don't look away from it. You know, some some some
• 1:52:13
  shit like that, right. Men will do that because of incentive pay you
• 1:52:17
  get, you get more per hour to do that, because it's hard to
• 1:52:20
  get people to do it. Men will come home covered literally in raw sewage
• 1:52:29
  because they've done that job, right, because they love their families and they
• 1:52:34
  want to make sure their wife has enough money to run the household, their
• 1:52:39
  children are well dressed, the food in the house is good, it's warm
• 1:52:43
  in there, it's safe in there. They have an alarmed system as they
• 1:52:45
  need it. They have cars to get places, they can go to the
• 1:52:47
  doctor if they get sick, you know, mental get up at three o'clock
• 1:52:51
  in the morning to get ready for an eight hour day that that you know,
• 1:52:56
  they have to drive an hour to get to in an hour to get
• 1:52:59
  back from. Right, And women get mad because after doing all that,
• 1:53:05
  he doesn't notice that her hair was armor and instead of copper, right,
• 1:53:11
  right, you know, like is that love? How do you how do
• 1:53:15
  you know what love is? If? If to you, love is counting
• 1:53:18
  up wrongdoings, right exactly? Well, see, and again this just goes
• 1:53:27
  back to how easy women have it, right, Like love and idolation is
• 1:53:32
  ladled upon women from the time that they're born and it never really stops.
• 1:53:38
  You know. There's the attention seeking and the attention getting is just like it's
• 1:53:46
  an average everyday thing, right whereas guys, holy shit, if anybody looks
• 1:53:54
  their way, they might and smiles that it's it's a good day for them,
• 1:53:59
  you know, and that happen. Yeah, yeah, But so I
• 1:54:09
  think I think people who understand love understand that it comes with sacrifice, and
• 1:54:16
  sacrifice is kind of intertwined with it. Yeah, I think a lot of
• 1:54:24
  women just think love is adoration, right, it's not really based in anything
• 1:54:34
  other than um, I really like you, I really, I really love
• 1:54:42
  You're so beautiful, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think we're
• 1:54:45
  wanting to be together all the time, or yeah, having the hots for
• 1:54:49
  somebody. You know. They don't think about being so invested in your loved
• 1:54:56
  one's personal welfare, their their health, well being, their happiness, their
• 1:55:00
  safety, that you're willing to sacrifice yours for theirs, right, right,
• 1:55:08
  right, And parents used to always do that for their children. You love
• 1:55:13
  your children, You sacrifice all kinds of things for your children's welfare. And
• 1:55:20
  it's it's why when I talk about planning for your children, I use the
• 1:55:25
  phrase love your children before you make them, before they're born, before you
• 1:55:30
  conceive, because it's too late to only start loving them afterward, right,
• 1:55:38
  Love them enough to prepare first, because it's it's hell to try to scramble
• 1:55:44
  to make up for that preparation you didn't do after the baby's born, and
• 1:55:50
  it's terrifying, especially if you love your child. After the child's born,
• 1:55:57
  you'll find yourself breaking the hell out of your body, just beating yourself up
• 1:56:00
  physically trying to get shit done so that you can make sure your child is
• 1:56:04
  going to be okay, you know, and you'll never feel like you've done
• 1:56:10
  a good enough job if you don't leave your kids. You made the nest
• 1:56:16
  before you lay the eggs, yes, because otherwise the eggs are just going
• 1:56:19
  to fall through the tree branches break, and you're going to feel like a
• 1:56:23
  decade. It's a lot easier to build a nest when you're not holding the
• 1:56:27
  baby. Just leave it at that. You know, if you're sitting there
• 1:56:30
  holding the baby the whole time, what are you going to build a nest
• 1:56:31
  with not your hands? So yeah, women and women have this as a
• 1:56:38
  habit. They're just completely careless. We're completely careless with our fertility until it's
• 1:56:44
  in our face. Oh shit, Now now I can be responsible because now
• 1:56:49
  I have to or the consequence falls on somebody that I care about. Like
• 1:56:59
  that's that's the situation. So when you know, not to disparage the writer,
• 1:57:03
  and the writer has made a great article here, but I think men
• 1:57:08
  in general give women too much credit in terms of love and it's one of
• 1:57:13
  the reasons why. And I I'm I've been delayed in my video making for
• 1:57:19
  the last month by problems with my old laptop computer. I got a new
• 1:57:23
  one, so I'm working on restoring my capacity to actually produce the videos and
• 1:57:29
  publish them. But my video about marriage is not going to make women happy
• 1:57:38
  at all. I'm sure there's not a good reason for women. There's not
• 1:57:44
  a good reason for men to trust women, and there's not a good reason
• 1:57:47
  for women to be able to say I deserve your loyalty. Right. That's
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  there's no no natural thing that women men have been doing that legitimate miises that
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  demand. There's no um, there's no doubt debt built there for for one
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  thing. Right, you can't say you owe me your loyalty, you owe
• 1:58:15
  me your love because you haven't done anything for him, right, Um.
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  And you can't say I am good enough to earn it, to deserve it,
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  to inspire it, because for Fox's sake, what have you done women
• 1:58:34
  that is that inspiring? Right? And and in the case that you have
• 1:58:40
  done something like that, then certainly you would have found that person for you
• 1:58:45
  and you wouldn't be having these complaints, right. But you know, we
• 1:58:49
  do see men give women that loyalty and their love and their their honor and
• 1:58:58
  and sacrifice for women who have done nothing to deserve it, and then get
• 1:59:02
  treated like they don't love them because you know, of of petty complaints and
• 1:59:10
  stupid shick Men are afraid to offend women, that's it. And men are
• 1:59:16
  afraid to stand up for themselves. They were afraid to say anything to women
• 1:59:24
  that would go against you know, what she wants, you know, or
• 1:59:30
  challenge her in any way. They're too kind, yes, I mean the
• 1:59:36
  men. It's not even always just fear. They're too kind. They they
• 1:59:42
  care exactly. Men give way too much deference to women, and I don't
• 1:59:48
  I understand why, but I think we as a society need to break,
• 1:59:56
  well need to break men of that habit because most of these women out here.
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  Shit, I'm not gonna put numbers on it, but hey, let's
• 2:00:08
  say, if you toss a coin and you got a fifty fifty chance of
• 2:00:11
  running into a crazy bitch, you know, do you really want to give
• 2:00:15
  her the benefit of the dab? I mean obviously in well, you have
• 2:00:23
  the situation where you know, the woman is raised to be entitled, but
• 2:00:27
  she's also got a natural sense of entitlement. She also doesn't understand love,
• 2:00:33
  right, So she gets thoughts for a guy, but she won't support him,
• 2:00:36
  she won't be there for him, She doesn't make herself like these women
• 2:00:41
  demand of emotional availability. Are they providing emotional availability? I mean shit,
• 2:00:50
  emotional availability, that's one thing they Are they providing anything else? I mean
• 2:00:57
  these women talk, These women talk about, Oh what I bring to the
• 2:01:00
  table. I'm I'm such a prize. I'm you know, I'm any guys
• 2:01:06
  should be happy to have me. Well, why what really do you bring
• 2:01:11
  to the table beside your fucking emotional baggage and your neediness, you know,
• 2:01:16
  and your fucking codependency. Yeah, I don't get it. Yes, brain
• 2:01:29
  is broken, My brain broken, Yeah, I it's going. So I
• 2:01:35
  said, this is this article is rage fuel the um And even though you
• 2:01:41
  know it's well written, it's written by in a voice from end guy,
• 2:01:44
  and it it sees through the issues and everything. Even like I said,
• 2:01:47
  there's some things even even men are too nice to these women. Do you
• 2:01:53
  think about that situation? It just keeps sticking in my in my head,
• 2:01:58
  there that one bit, And it's probably the reason why I m insisted on
• 2:02:04
  doing this article. Even though, like I said, it's a nine year
• 2:02:06
  old article. Is we had this guard who described her reasons for getting into
• 2:02:13
  a relationship for essentially raping this prisoner. Um, like I know, he
• 2:02:20
  may say, you know, yeah, well I consented, Like, well
• 2:02:24
  would you have consented if you had more choice in the matter? M But
• 2:02:30
  this this so this prison guard, this prison guard rapist said that her reasons
• 2:02:38
  for wanting to be in the relationship were sex. And she made two babies
• 2:02:43
  with this guy who never is going to get a chance to be a real
• 2:02:45
  father, all right. He's never going to be able to sit and read
• 2:02:48
  stories to his kids before they go to bed. He's never going to be
• 2:02:51
  able to teach him to throw a baseball. He's not going to be able
• 2:02:56
  to teach him how to drive. He's not going to give advice on how
• 2:03:00
  to live their lives from inside the prison system. Right. He's not gonna
• 2:03:05
  get hugs from his kids. He's not gonna get calls on Father's Day.
• 2:03:09
  He's not gonna get Father's Day cards or a tie. He's gonna get nothing.
• 2:03:14
  And his kids are gonna get nothing from their father because he can't give
• 2:03:18
  them anything. He can't be anything to them. What can he do right.
• 2:03:24
  And on top of all of that, her reason is because she's in
• 2:03:29
  control of the relationship. There is nothing about that is anything like love.
• 2:03:36
  No, no, oh, don't forget Annah. She wanted the good sex,
• 2:03:42
  she got the good sex. Get a fucking vibrator, do something,
• 2:03:47
  use a I don't know, do whatever the fuck you gotta do. And
• 2:03:51
  it didn't really specify, not that it really makes a difference, but whether
• 2:03:57
  or not this woman had two kids with this man while he was incarcerated or
• 2:04:01
  beforehand. Um, I mean, but again, is anybody vetting these people
• 2:04:14
  they've already seen to know on that, Yeah, they know. They just
• 2:04:17
  have to have a high school diploma, pass a piss test, not have
• 2:04:24
  been arrested within the past whatever amount of time. And all right, fine,
• 2:04:30
  here you go, good to go, keys to the cell. Oh
• 2:04:36
  geez, hang on a second, guys, I hope I don't. The
• 2:04:41
  show doesn't suddenly end, but a Windows just decided to force an update scheduling
• 2:04:48
  a restart right now. This is fucking stupid. I'm gonna schedule it on
• 2:04:56
  Saturday and then I'll just restart after I'm done with the actors. Like it
• 2:05:00
  didn't even tell me it was doing this. I have those turned off,
• 2:05:04
  so this must be one of those emergency things. Good God, like this
• 2:05:12
  repeatedly happens during showtime. If they're going to do an emergency forced update,
• 2:05:18
  it always seems to happen during showtime. Yeah. I never noticed that Thursday
• 2:05:26
  evening is the time for updates like that. Just and I actually have taken
• 2:05:33
  active measures to avoid this. I update on Wednesday in between the shows,
• 2:05:41
  the Tuesday show and the Thursday show, and then there's a feature that allows
• 2:05:45
  you to tell it to not do updates for a period of time, and
• 2:05:50
  I set it to the longest amount of time that you're allowed to set it
• 2:05:55
  for, and then you know, the next Wednesday, I go through and
• 2:06:00
  manually update again, with the idea being that I'm updating every Wednesday. It
• 2:06:06
  should be um, you know, good to go for on both Tuesday and
• 2:06:14
  Thursday. But nope, you know, fucking windows and I'm not updating the
• 2:06:19
  Windows eleven. They can go fund themselves. We do still appear to be
• 2:06:24
  live. Just in case we go off any second now, Uh, please
• 2:06:28
  go to feed the badget dot com and good night. Yeah. Man's rights
• 2:06:30
  advocates are literal machines. I think I got it. I think I got
• 2:06:36
  it. It doesn't look like it's booting me. But yeah, I've even
• 2:06:43
  disabled the Windows updates and services before. It doesn't hold. When when Microsoft
• 2:06:49
  decides to do a forced update, it um it, it overrides all those
• 2:06:57
  settings. So I don't know something's going on anyway, So to go on
• 2:07:04
  with the article, and I'm going to read like a couple more paragraphs and
• 2:07:08
  then I'm gonna look at let's see here just really quick so I know where
• 2:07:12
  we are. Yeah, there's a lot more to this, So I'm not
• 2:07:15
  gonna I'm gonna continue this next week, but we'll go back to the blue
• 2:07:20
  paragraph here that I've selected, if it's still there, all right, that's
• 2:07:25
  the one that we just read. So too many, including the guards,
• 2:07:30
  that looks like a win win situation. Adult women sized up a situation and
• 2:07:34
  made rational choices about how to behave to bring about the greatest benefits to themselves
• 2:07:41
  in the context of the jail, and we can't have that. The idea
• 2:07:46
  of women acting autonomously in their own perceived self interest is not favored by much
• 2:07:53
  of our news media and popular culture. So it fell to Jeffrey Tubin to
• 2:07:58
  convince New Yorker readers that, far from the female guards making their own autonomous
• 2:08:03
  choices, cynical and devious men succeeded in dominating women who were normally their keepers.
• 2:08:15
  So that's where we'll stop this week. It just blows my mind like
• 2:08:20
  they're completely in charge, they're completely in control, they completely dominate these men
• 2:08:26
  in every way, and yet it's they're victims. They're victims, those poor
• 2:08:31
  women. So with that, let's make sure I don't have any super chats
• 2:08:37
  that I've missed. I think I read richards as they were applicable to the
• 2:08:43
  moment, and I had that last one about justifying paying women less, you
• 2:08:48
  might as well not pay them at all. They're making plenty of money on
• 2:08:52
  the side, seriously, excuse me, on the side tax exempt motherfucker.
• 2:09:00
  Look, look, send those goddamn eighty seven thousand IRS agents. Send them
• 2:09:05
  after them, bitches, okay, because they're making a pretty goddamn page.
• 2:09:09
  Yep, oh shit, pretty you're you You got it though, I mean,
• 2:09:18
  like here we are, we're um making squeaking by making an honest living
• 2:09:26
  right. And and the I R S agents in question, you know,
• 2:09:30
  were that that whole thing was done to go after people like us, right.
• 2:09:35
  That was not to go after people like them. It was not to
• 2:09:37
  go after Nancy Pelosi and and her projects that never get finished, right or
• 2:09:43
  never materialized. It was to go after you know, Joe Schmo, like
• 2:09:50
  the the convenience store worker or the construction worker or uh, you know,
• 2:09:56
  the the line worker who is barely can out a living past his wife's credit
• 2:10:01
  card expenditures and uh, you know, maybe maybe gets a Christmas gift from
• 2:10:09
  his still living grandmother and she sends pay PayPal through PayPal, she sends him
• 2:10:13
  six hundred bucks boom irs eight. That's it in fifteen thousand dollars a month,
• 2:10:20
  and contraband in the prison system. We don't know, right, don't
• 2:10:24
  care, like the only reason the month. The government probably got mad about
• 2:10:28
  that because they're not getting tax dollars off of it. So but let's see,
• 2:10:33
  we are done with the super chats. Um. So we have one
• 2:10:39
  from yesterday at nine fifty three pm. That's was a five dollars super chow
• 2:10:48
  from missus Anna arc who said hugs for the Badgers. Today at seven o
• 2:10:54
  three pm, Meredith g gave us five dollars and said, honey, for
• 2:10:58
  the Badgers. Super Chows are the best. Thanks for the thought provoking discussion.
• 2:11:03
  Then we have Michael Emrich Windberg gave us some five dollars and said,
• 2:11:09
  let us take a moment to admire that this is not even a double standard.
• 2:11:15
  The complaint about she was asking for it is employed by activists to straw
• 2:11:20
  in the fictional argument for defending the rape of a woman because of what she
• 2:11:24
  chose to wear. Meanwhile, they deliberately and directly use it against boys when
• 2:11:30
  they were grabbed, handcuffed, thrown into a cage where they raped them.
• 2:11:35
  Yeah, and their whereabouts means you know they were they were asking for it.
• 2:11:43
  Zapier gave us five dollars and said marriage never made sense to me.
• 2:11:46
  What logical reason would a man have for choosing marriage? What can he gain
• 2:11:50
  from it? Maybe some tax benefits, the feast of the breadwinner, in
• 2:11:52
  a pretentious flex that allows him to call her his wife, like, you
• 2:11:58
  don't need marriage, Just move together, write a will and testament, get
• 2:12:01
  it notorized, and that's it. You can even get a living will and
• 2:12:05
  an advanced directive. I wouldn't risk marriage unless she makes more than me,
• 2:12:09
  and I know she always will, I can see if a party was seen
• 2:12:13
  at fault for ruining a marriage, but this no fault divorce crab just takes
• 2:12:18
  away any accountability. Crazy that some bird species can stay monogamous till death,
• 2:12:22
  but humans need government or religion to step in, and I will, I
• 2:12:26
  will point out this. Yeah, it is the thing. Yeah, government
• 2:12:31
  or religion stepping in is a modern invention and it actually has created. Marriage
• 2:12:37
  has been a ceremonial thing for thousands and thousands of years before such a thing
• 2:12:41
  as a government ever existed. And as a ceremony, there's obvious reasons that
• 2:12:46
  exists. It's it's almost anthropic, it is logic. The fact that it's
• 2:12:52
  existed for so long makes sense, but that it's only ceremonial and the only
• 2:12:58
  means anything you know, morally, dare say ethically among the families that that
• 2:13:05
  participate it in it it's you know, it's it is basically a party,
• 2:13:11
  but it's an important party in which families come together and say, yo,
• 2:13:16
  these two people love each other. Isn't that great? And therefore we accept
• 2:13:22
  the rest of you as part of our extended family. Now, it is
• 2:13:24
  important that families, you know, find find a way to accept each other
• 2:13:28
  because it necessarily happens every time, you know, two people create another chain
• 2:13:35
  in the having of the of the children and and whatnot. There was never
• 2:13:41
  any reason for the government to get involved. And this is a sticking point
• 2:13:46
  for people whe when that when you say marriage, do you mean what the
• 2:13:50
  government defines his marriage or do you mean what millennia of tradition defines his marriage.
• 2:13:58
  And this is problem with so many things. The government gets as close
• 2:14:01
  into things and then and then we start defining that thing as the government's law
• 2:14:09
  in that thing. Yeah, I mean, I'm always happying against any idea
• 2:14:16
  of the government getting involved in someone's love life. And I mean love life,
• 2:14:20
  not in a frivolous sense, because everyone needs a love life, especially
• 2:14:26
  when it comes to you know, a long term partner. And yeah,
• 2:14:31
  I've always been against that and that and that has even gotten the way of
• 2:14:37
  my understanding of marriage as an institution, because like I said, you forget
• 2:14:43
  that institutions can exist outside the government. Imagine an institution of marriage that existed
• 2:14:50
  outside the government. I think it would be ten times undis better. It
• 2:14:56
  would be it would be religious. And this is ways and I will give
• 2:15:01
  that a religion if they can take it away from the government, I'd be
• 2:15:03
  like, fine, I will join a religion to get married, way before
• 2:15:09
  I join a fucking government to get married. You know, I don't religion
• 2:15:16
  more than I trust government at this point. And I never thought i'd say
• 2:15:18
  that you don't really need either one pair bonding happens outside of authority. It
• 2:15:26
  is a it's a form of dedication, and I would actually argue to like
• 2:15:31
  the people who think government needs to be involved in marriage, I would actually
• 2:15:35
  argue that authority gets in the way of two people striving to maintain the health
• 2:15:43
  of their relationship, to foster their dedication to each other, to foster their
• 2:15:48
  intimacy with each other. Government gives you a piece of paper that says all
• 2:15:54
  that exists that you can just point to and say, well, see,
• 2:15:56
  we're married, we're a couple. We don't have to consistently strive to be
• 2:16:01
  close to each other. This piece of paper says other people can't interfere in
• 2:16:07
  our relationship and we're not supposed to abandon it um and and are like the
• 2:16:11
  whole no fault divorce thing is really not it's not real like we talk about
• 2:16:18
  it as no fault divorce. But there is no such thing as no fault
• 2:16:22
  divorce. We went from his or her fault to divorce to his fault only
• 2:16:31
  divorce. That is what we did, um and it is. It is
• 2:16:35
  evident in the fact that women are awarded custody over eighty percent of the time
• 2:16:41
  when there's there's a custody battle, and we are it's it's evident in the
• 2:16:45
  fact that when women have custody versus when men have custody, the man is
• 2:16:50
  expected to support two households more often and to a greater degree than the woman
• 2:16:56
  is, And when there is alimony to be paid, it usually is awarded
• 2:17:01
  to the woman from the man. That is not no fault. That is
• 2:17:05
  his fault. That is divorce. That is not not saying that it's actually
• 2:17:09
  his fault, but that is divorce that has deemed his fault. Even if
• 2:17:13
  she abandons him, even if she cheats on him, even if she abuses
• 2:17:16
  him in any other way, right even if she beats him, even if
• 2:17:20
  she rapes him, even if she poisons them, it's still his fault.
• 2:17:24
  Divorce. So you know, I don't I don't buy in a whole no
• 2:17:28
  fault divorce thing. No, it's guilty until proven not financially responsible right at
• 2:17:35
  your own cost, guilty until proven female, And like that says a lot
• 2:17:41
  about women and their their inability to be accountable for themselves. Like men are
• 2:17:48
  expected if they live on their own, if they're raising children on their own,
• 2:17:54
  they are expected to figure out a way to make it work financially,
• 2:17:58
  to figure out what they have to do, what they have to sacrifice,
• 2:18:01
  how much they have to break their bodies, how many jobs they have to
• 2:18:05
  do, who they have to embarrass themselves in front of by begging, whatever
• 2:18:09
  they have to do to make sure that those kids are fed and closed and
• 2:18:13
  have roof over their heads at the father's expense and not at the expense of
• 2:18:18
  daddy government. Right. Women don't have that stipulation. Women don't have that
• 2:18:22
  level of responsibility and accountability, and because of it, women don't rise to
• 2:18:28
  greatness as frequently or as high as men do. And there is no such
• 2:18:37
  thing as no fault divorce. There is his fault divorce and bigger his fault
• 2:18:45
  divorce. Yeah, so XERANX gave us five dollars super chat and said,
• 2:18:52
  have to separate government from kids. It's tendrils start inside the birth canal disgusting
• 2:18:56
  enough. Once that happens, people can opt for government governmentless unions, and
• 2:19:03
  actually, yeah, you do have to disentangle government from kids. And it's
• 2:19:09
  it's sad, but the government's tendrils start I would say before conception, because
• 2:19:18
  women are getting advice from their school system, which is run by the government,
• 2:19:26
  regarding their birth control choices, their sexual choices, whether they're responsible for
• 2:19:30
  those choices or not, and so on. And in sex education they're told
• 2:19:33
  everything is not their fault, everything is not their responsibility. It might suck
• 2:19:37
  to be in this situation. It's his fault, but you have to prevent
• 2:19:43
  it. And if you don't, you have to go to the government for
• 2:19:46
  money. They're not told you have to watch your children grow up in poverty.
• 2:19:50
  You have to deal with this. You have to deal with that,
• 2:19:52
  and it's your fault because you are the one with the uterus, right,
• 2:19:58
  so it like they should be or they shouldn't be told anything by the school.
• 2:20:05
  Um Zapier also gave us five dollars and suggested switch to Lennox. I
• 2:20:13
  recommend Lennox meant pop os or Zora and os operating systems best for absolute newbs.
• 2:20:22
  Besides, Microsoft is an evil spyware company anyway, and uh it is
• 2:20:26
  that is true. The only thing I do with this computer, though,
• 2:20:31
  is this show. UM, Like I don't, I don't. I have
• 2:20:35
  a computer just for this live stream and being on the news show. That's
• 2:20:39
  the only thing I use it for. UM. So I don't know.
• 2:20:43
  I might put some effort into that, um, but it's gonna have to
• 2:20:48
  wait. So I'm I've got I was telling everybody last week how the overtime
• 2:20:56
  situation was starting to settle down. The person that was fixing that problem just
• 2:21:03
  quit, so I'm kind of fucked. But at the same time, you
• 2:21:07
  know, I'll get overtime cash from it, so who knows, maybe it'll
• 2:21:13
  be enough for me to to get the information I need and then take the
• 2:21:18
  time to peruse it and you do a different setup, so things will get
• 2:21:24
  better. But in the meantime, you'll just have to put up with me
• 2:21:28
  being not nearly as computer literate with modern computers as I was back in the
• 2:21:33
  eighties with the you know, older computers, the computers of the day.
• 2:21:39
  And with that, I h I don't think. Let me look at um.
• 2:21:45
  Uh Rumble here, but I don't think there's Yeah, there's nothing paid
• 2:21:50
  um on Rumble but um geez, yeah, you gotta go to Rumble and
• 2:21:58
  look at our show and the comments calling marriage attacks. Benefit for getting married
• 2:22:03
  is like claiming that not getting married arrested. Now, getting arrested is a
• 2:22:07
  benefit of having your driver's license with you getting arrested as a penalty. And
• 2:22:11
  that's kind of true because honestly, there's not really a valid excuse for for
• 2:22:22
  higher taxes for single men. Like the people who draw in the system the
• 2:22:28
  most are married couples and their children, and you know that. That's yeah,
• 2:22:37
  that makes no sense whatsoever. But that's basically that's all I'm going to
• 2:22:43
  read from there. I think that's probably the most pertinent comment. We do
• 2:22:46
  have quite a few more comments than we had before, so we got a
• 2:22:50
  couple of guys commenting now, so we just need to get more of you
• 2:22:56
  on listening to us on Rumble. Um. We just have the same name
• 2:23:00
  on Rumble. You can, I think you can find a link to our
• 2:23:05
  it's HB Radio. Sorry it's not the same name, So just look for
• 2:23:09
  HB Radio on Rumble and it looks like right now, we have five five
• 2:23:15
  hundrety four follows followers on rumble sou look for our Rumble account and follow us
• 2:23:22
  there too. Um we we we Definitely it's a lot smaller than say,
• 2:23:26
  our YouTube channel, um Twitch and everything. I don't even know if Twitch
• 2:23:30
  still exists after what just happened. But but there's that. And with that,
• 2:23:37
  thanks everyone for listening. Thanks both you guys for sticking out this ugly
• 2:23:43
  sausage like this is a rotten sausage. I guess we had a lot of
• 2:23:46
  good things to say though, And thanks to everybody who works in the background
• 2:23:50
  and make HBr talk happen. And can I do all