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Ohtani 40/40 & Judge 50 · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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  presented by SeatGeek. This is episode 462.
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  I'll be your host Kyle Corwin. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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  Reyes. Nate.
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  That is I I'm that guy. Welcome back, Herb Body hanging
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  out with us on this early recording.
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  Early recording. This is the early one.
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  It's got people in the live chat which is insanely cool.
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  Nate's got bigger and better things.
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  He's got a he's got a handle tonight.
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  He's got a big, big fantasy football draft.
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  I don't fault you. I mean, I'd probably I'd
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  probably request an early recording if I were you to.
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  So this is a big. One, this is a big one.
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  I've done at least 15 mock drafts.
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  I believe there's a lot of pressure on this one, so we'll
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  see. We shall can.
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  We get a just a quick glimpse in your draft strategy here.
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  And do you know who who you're going with for your first pick?
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  So I'm in the 11 spot out of 12. The you don't, I know you
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  haven't been doing anything fantasy football wise in a
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  while, but like there's this strategy that's like either 0
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  running back or hero running back.
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  So like you either get your running backs early or you wait
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  way late and just get like crazy with wide receivers.
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  I think I'm going hero running back and I and Saquon, I would
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  love if Jonathan Taylor fell back to me with the Colts, but I
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  don't think he will. So I think I'm going to go
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  Saquon and Jameer Gibbs right away and then just like wide
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  receivers for a while. But I'm in this league with my
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  father-in-law. I was telling you before we
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  hopped on, these old guys just freaking love quarterbacks and
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  they get them ridiculously early and it just throws the whole
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  strategy off. So I have no idea what's going
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  to happen. It's going to be tough, going to
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  be weird, but I'm ready to get weird.
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  Not just for that, for this too, you know.
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  I mean, let's get weird. Speaking of weird, no, this is a
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  great, this is a great segue. So I went to the I went to the
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  O's Astros game yesterday. It was sort of a sort of a make
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  up plan for not going the week before when the socks were in
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  town. But logistics didn't work out
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  last weekend. But Meredith was like, hey,
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  let's get to a game. You've been talking about
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  wanting to go to games. I was like, all right, yeah,
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  let's go to Baltimore. So we went down there for the
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  game against the Astros yesterday.
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  Beautiful weather. Ballpark was packed.
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  We were. We ended up peeing like 20
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  minutes late, though. I'm telling you the pitch clock.
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  It really just moved to. Hills kills the in person
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  experience. I know we're we're like a ways
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  into this now. So it's it's no point me even
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  like rehashing that, but and we were like 20 minutes late and
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  then by the time we got to our spot, it was like middle of the
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  3rd. I'm like, well, that sucks.
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  But anyway, talking weird. So we just went as cheap as
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  possible. I just got a couple standing
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  room only tickets because I was like, I don't really have a dog
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  in this fight anyway, just want to catch some good baseball,
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  beautiful weather. So let's just let's go.
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  Hang about Utah. Yeah, take a walk around, take
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  around the park we actually ended up.
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  How longing out there. Yeah, it's, oh, it's incredible.
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  They do it right. The ballpark is very, very well
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  made and and very well set up. But we ended up actually setting
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  up shop out above the bullpen. So like if if you've seen the
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  view out towards the bullpens, there's like the the railings
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  there where you can, you can look.
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  There's like that little like park right behind it where it's
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  like picking. Tables and stuff, yeah.
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  So you can like look right over and and see the guys in the pen.
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  So we're seeing it right on top of the the Stroh's pen and we're
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  actually up on the rail and we got a spot there on the rail.
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  And so, you know, like Naris is walking by, haters walking by.
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  Caleb Ferguson was hanging out right in front of us for for a
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  good bit, and I didn't say a word to these guys, nor like,
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  nor would I. I'd have no reason to.
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  It doesn't matter if it's the Astros, even if it was the
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  Yankees. I'm not like whatever, I'm just
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  here to watch. I don't think either of us.
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  We're we're well beyond the age of saying anything to the guys
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  in the bullpen. This one guy, however, and this
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  is where the whole weird segue comes into play.
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  There's this guy who is over in the center field, seats to the
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  right of the hitter's eye. Wish I wish I would have been
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  able to like say something to this guy like dude, re evaluate
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  your life. But anyway, the guy is sitting
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  in the center field seats and hater is over there doing his
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  his band work in preparation for a possible appearance into the
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  game. Ended up not going in, but he's
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  over there doing his band work like in the shadows, like he he
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  he's not even in the actual pen. He went outside the the pen
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  walked up the walkway towards the base of the hitter's eye.
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  And there's just like a little little cavity there where you
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  can kind of just hide out and do your work.
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  He's down there. And this guy who I would
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  probably peg at, I'll call it, I'll call it an even 30.
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  It's probably even 30. He's rocking a Jackson holiday
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  shirt. Meanwhile, every Astros brand,
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  brand new fan, every Astros reliever that steps up to do
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  their work, yelling at the top of his lungs.
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  Hey hater, you suck. Like blood curdling yelling.
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  I'm like my my my brother. Let's dial it back.
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  Please like the 6th inning. The 6th inning and then Caleb
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  Ferguson gets up to to warm up because he he actually ended up
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  going to the game as he's making his way to the to the to the
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  gate to make his way out onto the field.
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  He this guy goes, hey Caleb, you're literally balding.
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  You are literally balding. And I looked over at Meredith
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  and I said that guy is probably 30 years old.
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  Here's wearing a jersey of a guy that's 20 years old and he's
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  yelling at a guy who's roughly around the same age as him, if
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  not older, telling him that he's losing his hair.
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  You need to re evaluate your life choices.
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  If you're if you go to a baseball game and you're you're
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  if it's a rival, OK, I kind of get it.
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  But like the age I think takes precedent here.
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  Like if you're above a certain age, if you're here, here's
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  here's where I draw the line. If you're if you're a one off
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  case and you're just shouting at a guy, you're the only one
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  saying anything to where everybody around you can hear
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  what's being said. No, like, come on, you're 30
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  years old, you're 40 years old, 50, whatever.
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  If you're above 30, maybe even 25, like, come on, let's grow
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  up. But if you're just shouting as
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  part of the mob, just randomness, whatever.
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  But like, my brother, you're 30 years old.
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  You're wearing a jersey. The guy that's a kid that's 20
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  years old, Yeah, that's just weird.
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  It was very, very strange. That's weirdo activity.
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  Very, very strange activity, but you know, Orioles fans are going
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  through it right now. That's what I'm saying, dude.
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  Like Orioles fans don't know how to act right now.
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  Like, relax for a SEC, man. They're just freaking out and
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  they're so ready to throw shade and then they're so ready to
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  hate their own team. It's so it's really weird.
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  Get a little tastier that success.
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  I don't know how to act. That's what we've been saying.
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  Leave my boy Ryan alone, by the way.
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  Yeah, Ryan is. Touching ridiculous strays for
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  no for being optimistic. Get off his back.
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  And understanding that a season is a marathon.
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  Get off his back. Fanbase attacking my guy, I
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  don't like it. Hey, let's, let's talk show
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  talking about success, let's talk Shohei reaching the 4040
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  club. It's not even September.
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  I mean, you could say that for both of these these headline
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  headlines we're we're talking about here today with with
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  Shohei and Judge. It's not even September.
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  Yeah, and in classic show hey, fashion goes out.
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  What was this was Friday night goes out Friday night and does
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  it in the same game. If it was anybody else, I'd be
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  like, wow, that's I mean, what a talk about a surprise.
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  It was show. Hey, I was almost expecting it,
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  if I'm being honest with you. I mean, what, what?
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  What more do we have to say about this guy?
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  I think he's just so under the radar with stolen bases.
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  I think he's so under the radar. Have you watched him run?
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  I know. He's he's like a deer.
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  It's sneaky quick. Well, it's not even sneaky.
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  He's got forty stolen bags, but. Long strides, long, efficient
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  strides. Dude is a freak.
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  By the way, random, do you know how old Shohei is?
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  I I feel like we talk about Shohei all the time, but I don't
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  know if you've ever really brought to attention his age.
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  I said 28. He's 30. 30.
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  Because when I saw him move, I was like.
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  He was in with the with the angels for what, like seven
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  years? What was he he got there 18,
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  Yeah. So six years.
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  Six years. The reason I, I was looking up
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  his age to confirm because I was like, take it somewhere around
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  30, maybe a little below that. The reason I was looking up his
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  age is because I saw a move and I was like, I wonder how that's
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  going to age. Like you, you know, how it ages
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  with, with, with other guys who are, who are also fast.
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  But Shohei is in a league of his own here.
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  He's in a, he's in a tier of his own.
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  You just don't know how that's how that's going to, how that's
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  going to translate. I don't, I don't know, like if,
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  if it's going to be better than other other situations with with
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  guys who are just as fast or if it's if it's going to age worse
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  because he's he's doing. So much you're saying just the
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  speed thing, like just the speed?
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  Are you saying speed or stolen basis?
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  Speed as a tool I would say OK. I think there was like this
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  level of because can't we, we can go back to the last few
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  years and the stolen bases weren't this high, right?
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  No, and that I mean that that brings up the whole conversation
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  of the. The base is getting larger and
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  the and the. The well, I think it brings up
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  the conversation of him not pitching like, like, hey, we're
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  not having you in the field. You're not using, You're not
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  even needing to save this stamina for the mound.
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  There's like this lack of like less cautious approach of just
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  saying like, hey, get after it. I I don't.
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  Yeah, 220 last year, 11 the year before, 26 the year before.
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  I mean, he is ramping it up like I don't know if you've seen
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  he's, he's had some, some pen sessions.
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  So like he's, he's at least back in that world in terms of being
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  back on the bump. So it's not to me, it's not like
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  a full freedom, like hey, go do what you want because you're not
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  throwing. It's like, well, be careful
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  'cause we are planning to revisit that side of your game
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  at some point. So let's not just go completely.
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  You think he comes back this year?
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  I don't think that was the plan. I mean unless see.
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  That's what I'm saying. Is there like this freedom that
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  he wouldn't have otherwise, that he won't have moving forward?
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  Is it also the mentality of the Dodgers versus the Angels,
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  right? Like, I love it.
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  I'm here for it. I think if you, if we have
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  someone like this, like I want to see what you're capable of
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  fully, right? He talked like Barry Bonds
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  before, like pre steroids, Barry Bonds was swiping bags all the
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  time. Then then it just kind of like
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  got eliminated out of his game. I, I, I say let this guy eat,
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  let him do whatever he wants to do.
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  I I hope this stays in his repertoire once he is back on
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  the mountain full time. In the chat, what do we what do
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  we think show hey is no, what do we think his lines going to end
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  up being bagged or home runs and bags?
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  What do we think he's going to end up with?
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  Because like I said, it's not even it's not even September.
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  Just some more Nuggets here on on his feet.
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  He's the first Dodgers in franchise history, which is
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  really hard to believe. I mean, you look at that
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  franchise and you go, Shirley, surely somebody had to have come
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  along and put up a 4040 season, surely.
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  Yeah. He's a first Dodger to do it.
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  He's a six player in Major League Baseball history to join
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  the club. You know the other names.
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  I know the graphics have been floating around on on social.
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  I have. I'm going to struggle here, I
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  think. Let's go, Barry.
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  Barry Bonds has got to be in there.
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  Yeah, Josh, this is hard. 4040 is just different.
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  Dude. Let's go young a rod, dude.
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  Paul says at least 5050. Paul says at least 50.
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  I agree, I think he's in the 5050 club.
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  And to to that point, a lot of the commentary I'm seeing on it
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  and I would agree in terms of speculating on on what that
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  projection ends up being. People have brought up the fact
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  that his his home runs come in bunches, which I would agree
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  with it if he can get on A roll over this last column of the.
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  Season like thirtyish games. I think it's what do we have
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  3232 to 34 games? I I don't put 50.
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  I would love to see a 5050. That's insane.
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  Was Griffey in that, by the way? Sorry, back-to-back to your
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  you're guessing. What do you got, Griffey?
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  Oh, that's a tough one. That's a real tough one.
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  Give me one more guess if I get it wrong you you give me the
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  rest blah, blah blah blah. I.
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  Mean I'm in recent history, Nate.
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  Real recent. Last calendar year.
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  Last year? Who was in the 4040 club last
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  year? Well, he kind of made his own
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  club. Oh yeah.
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  You're going to kick yourself. Yeah, There you go. 4070 Just.
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  Smack you right in the face. Yeah, it's it's kind of weird.
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  You're trying to. You're like 40-40.
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  I don't know whose names have I seen attached to 4040?
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  Well, technically Acuna, but. All right, so I got three names
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  so far. Yeah.
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  Are any of them active? Any of the others?
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  No. Nope, you're missing 2.
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  Obvious ones, I think. I mean, all these names are like
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  superstars. They got to be.
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  Yeah, I think one for you would be more obvious than the other.
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  4040 Why do I feel like Alfonso Soriano did it as a national?
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  Huh. As a national 2006 put up a 4641
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  season. By the way, the other names,
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  Acuna last year put up a 4173, a Rod put up a 4246 and 98, and
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  Bonds put up a 4240 in 96. Mind you again, Shohei has a
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  whole another month plus left to play.
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  I mean, these guys are these guys are barely beating the
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  buzzer putting up 40 steals by the end.
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  Like I would imagine in game 161 or 162 Shohei's got another 3034
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  games. Left.
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  I'm going to. I'm going to say Willie, no.
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  All right. The rest is you tell me.
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  Well, the only name you didn't get?
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  Jose Canseco in 1988 with the Oakland A's.
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  Never would have got there and I had no idea he had that in the
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  bag. 4240, which again, another example of a guy that just got
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  it, just beat the buzzer. Yeah, crazy.
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  No idea that he was, he was in that club.
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  Did you see that? I think I read that it would a
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  year to the day when he when he reached the feet on Friday a
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  year prior was the day he tours UCL.
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  Really. Yeah, just.
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  More That's pretty wild. Just another page in the book
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  that is Shohei Otani. Like it's just such a, it truly
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  is a Unicorn story. And I I know that gets thrown
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  around a lot, but like the guy tears his UCLA year to the day
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  joins the 4040 club. It's.
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  It's just, I just think this is, I didn't mean like I'm not
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  coming down on the guy for not having more swipes.
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  I'm not saying that he's like, this is it that this is the only
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  time you're going to see it. I just think it's so insane.
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  I we're going to get into this discussion, but he's my MVP for
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  the fact that like, I can't give you this this year.
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  I'm going to find you a way to give you.
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  I'm going to find a way to give you something else.
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  I got the juice. I'm going to hit homers, but I'm
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  going to find a different way of providing productivity.
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  And I think to me, that's what's most impressive about this.
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  Well, you're not saying that stolen bases is like equivalent
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  to, you know, being an ace on the mound, but like, hey, like
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  you're making up for it for not being able to be in the field.
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  Well, you kind of alluded to it, something that you and I talked
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  about before we hopped on. I wanted to touch on the Frankie
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  Lindor MVP talk because I've seen a lot of that servicing on
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  social and for good reason. He's been, he's been playing
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  especially well as of late. But just looking at his numbers,
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  I'm not, I'm, I'm just, I'm not seeing why we're hearing MVP
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  chants. I don't either.
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  For Francisco Lindor, is he having a a a a respectable
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  season? Yes.
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  Is he having a a season in which he will likely garner MVP votes?
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  Most likely. But he's not your MVP.
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  What? Why are we, why do we have these
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  conversations like if it's a, if it's like a judge versus Otani
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  and Otani's putting or judge is putting up like AL record type
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  home run numbers as as he was two years ago.
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  OK, I, I, I see where that conversation merits the
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  discussion, but it's Francisco Lindor in the year 2024.
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  He's hitting 26927 home runs. 78 RB is 25 bags and a war of 59.
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  That's that right there that it's the war lovers that are
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  having this conversation. It's the manipulation of numbers
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  to like put him in this conversation.
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  I don't I, I haven't looked at numbers recently, but I would
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  argue that like Marcela Zuna would probably get more votes
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  for MVP then Frankie Lindor. And I get like, you know, it's,
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  it's what you're going to argue as far as like, you know, the
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  value of playing a position or being ADH.
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  And I definitely understand playing shortstop every day is
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  not easy, but I'm not there. I don't, I don't know, I this
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  isn't even about like met hate. This is just like very like
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  generic numbers. It's common sense.
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  It's not the. Leader in any category, is he?
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  Let's take a peek here. Played appearances.
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  Games played. Playing every day at shortstop
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  has absolute accomplishment. Like, that's a big deal, but
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  let's not get to the MVP conversation just because of
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  that. I believe he's one of the one of
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  the few left this year that has played in every game.
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  I may be mistaken. I'm.
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  I'm I'm pretty sure that's a big deal.
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  I'm not going to downplay that in any way.
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  That's a huge deal, but especially today, but.
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  But to your point about Ozuna, a war of four two, he's got 37
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  bombs, he's hitting three O 7 and 94 RB is.
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  I don't even know the rest of the home.
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  I mean, you're going to have multiple guys that have more
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  than forty home runs this year and Lindor might not even get to
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  35, likely won't. In In what world does Francisco
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  Lindor win an MVP over Shohei Otani this year?
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  What is with the chance? Is he the MVP of the Mets?
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  Sure. And maybe that's what these fans
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  are are are acknowledging or no. One holds on to that that
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  argument anymore. Most valuable to his team.
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  That's no longer what this is. In no world, not in my world,
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  does Francisco Lindor beat out a Shohei Otani who's hitting
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  nearly 300. He has.
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  He's in the 4040 club and he has a war over six and it's not even
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  September. What are the OP s s looking
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  like? OPS on the year, Shohei.
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  The nines. Shohei IS998, Lindor is 830.
• 22:55
  Come on guys. There's no category like.
• 22:58
  There's not even the advanced analytics.
• 23:01
  You can't make some crafty argument to say that Francisco
• 23:04
  Lindor, in any scenario, wins an MVP over Show.
• 23:09
  You dwindle it down to him just playing shortstop versus Otani
• 23:13
  just being ADH. It's it's not.
• 23:17
  That's not enough when you're losing in every other offensive
• 23:20
  category. Not enough.
• 23:24
  Talk. Separate conversation.
• 23:25
  Like I said, Lindor playing every day with that contract
• 23:30
  with the Mets in in the ups and downs there like that is a
• 23:34
  different accomplishment and that's he deserves praise for
• 23:37
  that. But I'm out on the MVP stuff.
• 23:41
  That's this is a joke. Yeah, to your point, separate
• 23:44
  conversation, Frankie Lindor, let's just say there's people
• 23:46
  saying that he's overrated, which I think is insane.
• 23:49
  Like, let's, let's, let's not get overly carried away, yeah?
• 23:53
  I think there's more of a conversation.
• 23:55
  I can't believe I'm going to say this.
• 23:57
  There's more of an argument for Bobby Witt ALMVP compared to
• 24:03
  Judge versus Lindor compared to Otani for NLMVP.
• 24:10
  You see what I'm saying? That's a that's a great point.
• 24:12
  Yeah, that's that's absolutely the truth.
• 24:15
  I'm not. This isn't even on my radar
• 24:16
  anymore and it's silly that it's been trending almost.
• 24:19
  Well, let's let's let's talk about that name.
• 24:21
  Aaron Judge reached the 50 home run mark and as I'm pulling my
• 24:29
  notes together, puts up 51. So this is already outdated, but
• 24:34
  he has reached the 50th Homer threshold for the third time in
• 24:39
  his career. He did it his rookie year.
• 24:40
  He did it 2022 when he set the AL home run record and now in
• 24:47
  the year 2024 has hit 50th or has hit fifty home runs and
• 24:52
  again, as as Shohei still has, Judge has over a month left to
• 24:58
  play and he's I think on he's on pace right now.
• 25:01
  At the last I saw what? Well, actually it may have.
• 25:03
  Changed because 62 again. Well, that I think that was when
• 25:07
  when he was at 50. So I'm sure it's putting up 51.
• 25:11
  Maybe it's it's gone up even one or two.
• 25:13
  I'm not sure how how the rate works at at that at that point,
• 25:16
  but we're we're pushing a repeat of of 2022 at at this.
• 25:21
  Clip Yep, Yep yeah, I and I don't know how often we get to I
• 25:28
  don't look like I don't know what left to talk about here.
• 25:33
  I think this is more impressive than 2022.
• 25:35
  He's hitting over 3/30. His OPS is nearing 1200.
• 25:42
  He's slugging more than the league average OPS.
• 25:48
  His slug. I'm going to say that again.
• 25:50
  His slug is higher than the league average OPS.
• 25:58
  That is stupid, that is. That's so like, do you, I don't
• 26:05
  think people, I can't believe I'm going to say this.
• 26:07
  Do you realize how good you have to be at baseball to to reach
• 26:11
  that kind of threshold? It's silly, dude.
• 26:14
  And that's not just like it, it goes without saying, but just to
• 26:18
  just to emphasize here, that's not just getting hot for like a
• 26:21
  week with the way averages work over the course of 162 games.
• 26:26
  In order to do that in and to have that be true at the end of
• 26:31
  the month of August, you have to be hit the other so so well.
• 26:36
  That's the other thing is that I don't there was.
• 26:39
  There were quite literally people saying he needs to be
• 26:43
  sent down in April. There were.
• 26:46
  People, I mean, he was hitting very, very bad.
• 26:49
  He was hitting quite opposite of what he's doing.
• 26:51
  Now walking around saying that he needs to be sent down in
• 26:54
  April. So when you're talking about
• 26:56
  having basically a full month of terrible numbers and you're
• 27:01
  still doing this, what are we doing?
• 27:07
  This guy is crazy. That that honestly may go down
• 27:12
  based on how the rest of the season finishes up.
• 27:15
  Aaron Judge having a month of below average output may go down
• 27:21
  as one of those greatest what ifs in baseball history of like
• 27:25
  if we had, if he had maintained what he's been doing for the
• 27:29
  majority of the season in that month to start out the season,
• 27:33
  what, what sort of numbers are we looking at at the end of the
• 27:36
  year? I think it's the, it's, I mean,
• 27:39
  we, we can go back to the, to the conversation always.
• 27:43
  But like it was the, it was the injury in, in spring training
• 27:48
  didn't get a ton of ABS, but in April he had he, so it was March
• 27:56
  for 16 at bats at bats, which is stupid.
• 28:01
  He had a 398 OPS in in those games.
• 28:07
  In April, he had 100 at bats with an 811 OPS.
• 28:13
  It's six home runs. I'm speechless.
• 28:19
  Just jumping in here, Chad, how many home runs we think Aaron
• 28:22
  Judge is finishing up with by the end of 2024?
• 28:25
  Does he get to 63? I I'm telling you, man, if there
• 28:29
  was a, if there was an, and maybe it's due to the fact that
• 28:33
  he's already hit two home runs a day.
• 28:34
  And maybe it's just give me a little bit of extra bias here,
• 28:37
  recency bias. But I just feel like the way
• 28:40
  he's swinging it this year, there's no way that he just gets
• 28:43
  to 62 and stops. Yeah.
• 28:46
  I think the other thing you got to consider is that their
• 28:49
  strength of schedule is really low the rest of the way out.
• 28:53
  Like they, I mean, they've got like the A's, they've got the
• 28:56
  Pirates, They have some bad teams are going to be playing
• 28:58
  the rest of the way out. And the reason I'm bringing this
• 29:00
  up is because like you see certain teams, you know, that
• 29:04
  won't pitch to him. There's certain teams are like,
• 29:07
  you're not going to beat us. And with a lot of these teams
• 29:12
  that they're facing the rest of the way out, being out of
• 29:14
  playoff contention and just out of the conversation, they're
• 29:17
  going to be like, whatever, like, what do you want us to do?
• 29:20
  But it helps that, you know, it seems like Glaber in that
• 29:25
  leadoff spot has been going one of the last few weeks and him
• 29:28
  getting on Soto being on right now, like there's no option.
• 29:33
  You can't go around him. And it all comes down to that
• 29:36
  September needs to be a very good month for the lead off spot
• 29:40
  and for Soto and Judge will most likely reach these numbers.
• 29:45
  The first player in MLB history with 50 plus homers, 120 plus RB
• 29:49
  is and 100 plus walks before September.
• 29:53
  That's just that I I should have made that the title of the
• 29:56
  episode before September. It's not even September.
• 30:00
  I think it was the. What was the other one?
• 30:02
  It was the IT was three seasons with 50 plus home runs.
• 30:09
  There's only like 5 other guys. Did you get that down?
• 30:12
  Players that have hit 50 plus homers in in a season three
• 30:16
  times babe. Ruth heard of them.
• 30:20
  Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire and a rod.
• 30:24
  Which so one name didn't cheat Which which?
• 30:28
  Which by the way, and I think I tweeted the other day, but one
• 30:31
  of my favorite Nuggets of Sammy Sosa's career is that he hit 60
• 30:36
  homers in a in a season three times and didn't lead the league
• 30:40
  in homers any of those seasons. That tells you the state of
• 30:44
  offense and the state of of baseball and what was going on
• 30:47
  at that point. That's all you need.
• 30:49
  That's all you need to know is to look at.
• 30:51
  That also. I think Babe did it five times.
• 30:55
  I think I saw in the Yankee broadcast that he did it five
• 30:58
  times in his career. Aaron Well, Ruth is the only
• 31:02
  other Yankee with three obviously as a list up list, but
• 31:07
  the only other Yankee with three plus seasons of 50 plus Homer.
• 31:10
  So I think, yeah, I think I did see that it was it was over
• 31:13
  three, but. Just because a rod only stupid
• 31:16
  numbers a rod only did it one time as a Yankee but.
• 31:19
  Yeah, just stupid. And then as you mentioned, kind
• 31:23
  of tying a ball on this, we're looking at a possible Triple
• 31:27
  Crown here. If if it wasn't if it wasn't for
• 31:30
  Bobby Witt Junior. I know, I know.
• 31:34
  Like we're looking at easy MVP, easy, easy Triple Crown.
• 31:41
  Yeah, and I'm not going to be that guy that tears down Bobby
• 31:46
  Witt in his season. No, absolutely not to.
• 31:48
  Build up Aaron Judge's conversation.
• 31:51
  I do think Aaron Judge is the MVP, but Bobby Witt is going to
• 31:55
  do this quite literally for the next decade.
• 31:59
  And. He's going to win a few, so just
• 32:01
  give this one to judge because you're going to be fine moving
• 32:04
  forward. Let's put this in perspective.
• 32:08
  We've been talking about Aaron Judge's tear the last what, four
• 32:14
  months of the season? The fact that we're coming up on
• 32:20
  the end of the season, we have a month plus left and he's still,
• 32:24
  Bobby Witt is still in the conversation, the same
• 32:27
  conversation. It shows how how good.
• 32:30
  It shows how good of a season Bobby Witt is having with the
• 32:33
  fact we're not we're not putting them on on on equal pedestals
• 32:37
  here. I think, I think it's safe to
• 32:39
  say Aaron Judge with with what he's done.
• 32:42
  We'll, we'll probably, I don't even want to say run away with
• 32:45
  the MVP, but I I think that's is somewhat of an easier
• 32:50
  conversation than maybe some are labeling it to be.
• 32:53
  But the fact that you're still even in the same breath at this
• 32:59
  stage of the season tells you just how insane of a year you're
• 33:03
  having. It's legit, dude.
• 33:04
  It's legit. And again, playing shortstop
• 33:07
  everyday premier position I and that's probably another reason
• 33:11
  why I think this season's better than 2022 for Judge that he's
• 33:15
  playing center field every day different.
• 33:19
  Got to respect it. Speaking of respect, Scott
• 33:22
  Service got no respects on the way out the door in Seattle.
• 33:27
  Got fired this past week, just just short of the weekend.
• 33:32
  I think it was what, Thursday? After almost nine full seasons
• 33:37
  with the Mariners, he started back in 2016, was shown the way
• 33:42
  to the door, but not before he was made aware of his firing via
• 33:50
  text alert. I don't know if you saw that.
• 33:51
  Didn't even didn't know that. Didn't even get to find out.
• 33:55
  That's a big wrinkle. In person found out via text
• 33:59
  alert that he was being let go. Alert as in like in like a
• 34:02
  Twitter notification? What do you mean?
• 34:04
  I think it let me see here it was.
• 34:08
  It was a count roser. If you're saying text alert,
• 34:12
  yeah. I didn't say it.
• 34:14
  He he got the he got the notification from Ken Rose from
• 34:18
  a Ken Rosenthal tweet that he was being let go.
• 34:21
  I read that it I'm reading here 90 minutes, 90 minutes before he
• 34:28
  had his meeting. Shit, he was sitting on that for
• 34:30
  1/2 an hour going well this is this is nice.
• 34:36
  I I support the decision. I it's hard to it's hard to
• 34:40
  argue at this point. Is is is Scott Service
• 34:44
  responsible for the fact that they've had the worst offense in
• 34:48
  baseball, maybe short of the White Sox, for the last however
• 34:53
  many months? Is that on Scott Service?
• 34:55
  I think it's AI think it's definitely a perfect storm of a
• 34:59
  scenario and I think he's got to be the fall guy, unfortunately.
• 35:03
  I get it and and we talk about this all the time.
• 35:05
  Anytime a manager goes, you, you don't even really necessarily
• 35:08
  look at what they've done. You just look at what the team
• 35:11
  or like you, what they've done. As a manager, you just you have
• 35:14
  to default to look into what the team does and then that dictates
• 35:17
  whether or not they stick around.
• 35:18
  It's it's sucks, but that's just how it works.
• 35:20
  You have to have a fall guy like you said.
• 35:22
  But it, it, it wasn't the decision.
• 35:25
  It was. I don't know if you heard any of
• 35:27
  the OR read any of the quotes after the fact, but I saw that
• 35:31
  Jerry Dapoto had just plenty of things to say after the fact.
• 35:37
  One of the things did not sit well with me.
• 35:42
  One of the one of the things I read, he said Collectively, we
• 35:44
  determined that our organization needed this.
• 35:47
  First of all, that's not how you start.
• 35:50
  That's not how you start that conversation.
• 35:52
  That's not how you get the ball rolling.
• 35:53
  Hey, we needed this guy gone. This guy that I call my friend.
• 35:57
  The this this long time friend, we we needed him gone.
• 36:02
  That's not how you just basic PR one O 1.
• 36:05
  That's not how you start that conversation.
• 36:07
  He says collectively, we determine that our organization
• 36:09
  needed this. We needed to do something to
• 36:11
  create a different theme, a different vibe in our clubhouse.
• 36:15
  I'm not trying to throw Scott under the bus at all here.
• 36:17
  I can't say enough positive things about the things he did
• 36:20
  in contributing here, but I do think we needed a new voice.
• 36:24
  And then I didn't even I didn't get the the tail end of the
• 36:26
  quote. But he goes on to say like,
• 36:29
  yeah, we, I, I still think we can make a, a run at this.
• 36:32
  We can make a push at this. And I'm going, this isn't
• 36:37
  Philly. You can't just bring in, you
• 36:38
  can't bring in Philly, Rob, and expect things to just turn
• 36:41
  around on a dime. Like they clearly the the issues
• 36:45
  in Seattle run far deeper than who's at the who's at the
• 36:48
  managerial seat. I don't disagree.
• 36:53
  I don't disagree. I think the timing of it does
• 36:55
  make sense, like if we're going to do it, might as well try to
• 36:59
  use this as some kind of spark to sneak in.
• 37:03
  I suppose. I I do get that a little bit.
• 37:07
  Sorry, I'm looking at yeah, he was only there for 30 games.
• 37:13
  So I saw this Cameron Maven podcast clip.
• 37:21
  He's a guest on some podcast and I, I like Cameron Maven.
• 37:26
  I don't know, like how if you've heard like very many interviews,
• 37:28
  he's always kept it real. Like he's always been very
• 37:31
  straightforward. Great clubhouse guy Everywhere
• 37:35
  he goes. I looked at, I was looking at
• 37:39
  his game like this BR page. And I guess it's only been, it
• 37:43
  was only 30 games that he was in the Mariners clubhouse.
• 37:47
  But he said he's like, I've been around a lot of different
• 37:51
  managers, a lot of different teams, lot of different
• 37:54
  clubhouses. And he's like, I there's certain
• 37:58
  managers that say my door is always open.
• 38:01
  And there's a lot of managers that mean that.
• 38:04
  And there's a lot of managers that don't.
• 38:07
  And he's like, there's a lot of names that if you go knocking on
• 38:11
  that door, it's not going well. They don't want confrontation,
• 38:14
  they don't want conversation. It's all business and he's like
• 38:18
  for me and I would probably say for a few other guys, it's got
• 38:22
  service was a lot like that. Not as approachable as you would
• 38:26
  want or some of these guys nowadays would want.
• 38:29
  Whether you're for that or against that, that's for you to
• 38:33
  decide. You and I have talked about how
• 38:35
  much like there is this level of old school manager that I miss
• 38:39
  in the game. There's this gut feel, there's
• 38:42
  this, you know, respect of a manager versus this buddy,
• 38:49
  buddy, I just want to be boys with you.
• 38:51
  That like has now kind of dominated a manager mentality.
• 38:57
  You know, you can go to you can go to war for your players and
• 39:00
  you can be a player manager, but there's still this level of
• 39:04
  respect that I think needs to be had.
• 39:07
  But yeah, it's just kind of that was interesting.
• 39:10
  And it like, I don't know, like those are those are opinions
• 39:13
  we'd rarely get to hear about. We never really get to see what
• 39:16
  what it's like behind the curtain.
• 39:18
  So maybe there was a little bit of that going on.
• 39:23
  Maybe that, you know, some of these guys weren't loving going
• 39:27
  to battle for Scott service every day.
• 39:31
  Regardless what side of the the the fence you're on with, the
• 39:35
  style of managing the Scott Service brings the table the the
• 39:41
  downfall that the Mariners witnessed this season.
• 39:45
  And again, not they're still technically time, but from where
• 39:49
  they were to where they are now, truly insane.
• 39:55
  From Optus stats on Twitter, Scott Service is the first
• 39:58
  manager in MLB history to have a 10 plus game lead in the
• 40:01
  division or league prior to 1969, but then be fired before
• 40:07
  the end of the season. They were out 10 games in June.
• 40:13
  And they fired Scott Service in a span of 65 days.
• 40:18
  That's bad. Two months.
• 40:21
  We're not talking. We're not talking like May,
• 40:24
  We're not talking April like hey, you got a 10 game lead
• 40:27
  because it's a terrible start. Like June is deep.
• 40:31
  June is a deep enough. I'm not saying you got to hold
• 40:34
  on to a double digit lead in the division, but there's no reason
• 40:38
  why it should flip flop the way it did.
• 40:41
  Now they're seven games back in the wild card.
• 40:43
  We're talking about other teams being dead in the water with
• 40:46
  with less work to do than the Mariners.
• 40:51
  I'm all done. The division's the only hope,
• 40:54
  but need we remind you who you're up against in that fight?
• 40:58
  Not not going to work out. Not going to work out and some
• 41:06
  some positive news here. The Washington Nationals are
• 41:08
  calling up Dylan Cruz, their number three or the the #3
• 41:12
  prospect in in baseball for his debut on Monday versus the
• 41:16
  Yankees. I'm pretty surprised because I
• 41:21
  don't I haven't checked in in a while but like I last I saw a
• 41:24
  few months ago he wasn't doing great.
• 41:26
  Sitting 272 with 13 jacks, 68 ribbies in 99 games between AA
• 41:33
  and AAA. Where do you have a call up?
• 41:37
  In my opinion, in a season where got nothing to lose, why not?
• 41:41
  I'm excited, dude. I, I'm, I'm not going to sit
• 41:45
  here and lie and say like I've, I've kept tabs on cruise
• 41:47
  throughout his minor league stint, but that that was a name
• 41:51
  when he got drafted. You know, you see, you see the
• 41:53
  clips, the highlights, the style of play, you see the comps.
• 41:57
  There was a lot of people clamouring for him to be number
• 41:59
  one overall pick before skins. Yeah, that, you know, it's just
• 42:03
  that that was a guy that I was like, all right, like in the
• 42:05
  nationals organization. I'll have a chance, I would
• 42:08
  imagine to to catch him and some live action.
• 42:11
  So I'm excited to see see him show what he can do.
• 42:16
  And I'm especially excited for the future.
• 42:18
  That outfield man you got you got Cruz, now you got James Wood
• 42:23
  and then you've got this. What is it?
• 42:26
  Jacob Young, he's already got he's pushing 30 bags.
• 42:31
  I think I saw he's got like 20 double S to see like it's.
• 42:35
  And that's got something going, man.
• 42:36
  I'm excited for that outfield man.
• 42:39
  Give it a few years. That's that's going to be good.
• 42:42
  Yeah. I'm excited to see what he does.
• 42:43
  I mean, there's there's like a swagger and confidence that he
• 42:47
  has. You saw it through the College
• 42:50
  World Series, saw it through the draft, you know, good looking
• 42:55
  dude. Like, yeah, there's it's going
• 42:59
  to be good. What was the Moneyball quote?
• 43:04
  It's like he's ugly. He doesn't.
• 43:05
  You can't keep a girlfriend or something like that.
• 43:08
  So he's got no confidence. The old scout love that.
• 43:13
  Movie his. Girlfriend's ugly.
• 43:16
  He's got no confidence. Speaking of having no
• 43:20
  confidence, well, no, I take that back.
• 43:24
  He's going to land on his feet. Jason Hayward DFA by the Dodgers
• 43:28
  in in a corresponding move bringing back Chris Taylor off
• 43:34
  the IL. The team decided that they
• 43:36
  wanted to keep Kevin Kier Meyer as their lefty off the bench.
• 43:44
  So they got they have some depth.
• 43:47
  I wouldn't call it great depth necessarily, but I mean they
• 43:50
  have some names. There were it was sort of
• 43:53
  creating a little bit of a depth log jam, if you will.
• 43:56
  So they had to say ID OS to Jason Hayward venture to say
• 44:01
  somebody picks him up now he so to revisit the the conversation
• 44:07
  we're having. What was it last week about
• 44:10
  being playoff eligible? He will be eligible if somebody
• 44:13
  picks him up before the end of the month.
• 44:17
  I could see that, yeah. I mean, this seems like a no
• 44:20
  brainer, right? It's like somebody's picking up
• 44:22
  Jason Hayward. I could see it.
• 44:23
  Yeah. I no need to look at numbers.
• 44:27
  I think we all know you know what I mean?
• 44:29
  Like he's not he's not anything. Well.
• 44:31
  I've got numbers here for you. He's flashing 2O8289 and 393 /
• 44:36
  197 plate appearances. Well, there you go.
• 44:40
  Yeah, I, I think it's more So what the impact of him leaving.
• 44:51
  He's a big part of that Dodger clubhouse.
• 44:54
  I think him, Mookie and Freddie are like very close.
• 44:58
  I think he was very, very close to Freddie.
• 45:03
  That's a tough Nate. That's a tough blow, you know
• 45:05
  what I mean? And it was I think the
• 45:10
  corresponding move, I know you said that they had depth.
• 45:12
  I think the corresponding mood was specifically around Chris
• 45:15
  Taylor. Yeah, that's what I said, right?
• 45:17
  Oh, OK. Yeah, I brought him back off the
• 45:19
  aisle. Or at least I think I said that.
• 45:21
  I thought it what was the other name you said where they had
• 45:24
  depth? OK, well Kevin Kiermer.
• 45:27
  Kevin Kiermer was another name that people were speculating.
• 45:30
  OK, when Chris Cheddar comes back, is he going to be the guy
• 45:32
  to go? But they decided to to go with
• 45:33
  him. Yeah, I there's just, there's
• 45:37
  aspects to athleticism and and things that Kevin Kiermer can do
• 45:41
  that Jason Hayward I think plays still pretty good defense, but
• 45:45
  it's just like this clubhouse presence that I'm curious to see
• 45:49
  that's that's a tough blow. That's a gut punch.
• 45:51
  And you can like there's certain names that people talk about
• 45:54
  when they release. It's like this one was harder.
• 45:57
  This was a hard one, I think. But I I could see him going
• 46:00
  somewhere, I don't know where, what sounds good.
• 46:09
  Some of the one of these teams on the outskirts bring it back
• 46:16
  as a Cub, you know. I mean, why?
• 46:21
  Why bother though with that? I don't know, you know.
• 46:24
  I feel bad for him. I feel bad that like I, I, I
• 46:28
  look at his hitting mechanics and I'm like, something could,
• 46:31
  could have gotten fixed here. Something could have been
• 46:34
  changed and it's just it went too long, probably got stuck in
• 46:40
  his ways mechanically. You stick around.
• 46:44
  What? He did is a brave when he came
• 46:46
  up. Dude, Jason Hayward is a guy
• 46:49
  that really, I don't want to say helps me, but for lack of a
• 46:54
  better way of saying it, Jason Hayward is a guy that helps me
• 46:57
  realize how old I am because I remember watching his debut.
• 47:01
  I do too. And I'm like 99% sure that was
• 47:04
  it. Missile in right field.
• 47:06
  Yeah, and that was it, that it was Turner.
• 47:08
  At that point I was like, man, this guy could be something
• 47:12
  special. And here we are talking about,
• 47:13
  well, you know, he's, he could get picked up.
• 47:15
  Maybe won't, maybe, maybe might not.
• 47:17
  I don't know. It's tough, old man getting old.
• 47:23
  Last thing we got here, Danny Jansen set to make some, some
• 47:29
  very strange history. Danny Jansen of the Red Sox.
• 47:37
  It's official, I believe. I think, I think manager Alex
• 47:40
  Gore has announced, following just a a horrendous,
• 47:44
  embarrassing sweep at the hands of the Arizona Diamondbacks this
• 47:47
  weekend, has announced that Monday, Danny Jansen will be
• 47:51
  substituting in for Reese McGuire, who is no longer on the
• 47:54
  team as part of the resumption of the June 26 game with the
• 48:01
  Blue Jays, who the Red Sox acquired him from via trade.
• 48:06
  The the. Why just cooking right now?
• 48:12
  That's the loudest possible way. Hey, you should get in the GRUB
• 48:16
  ready. Get in the GRUB ready.
• 48:17
  It's all right. Hey, perfect timing.
• 48:19
  We're about to wrap up. Here, that's true.
• 48:22
  Meaning he will not. This is according to MLB score
• 48:25
  changes on Twitter by the way. Meaning he will not be.
• 48:27
  He will not only become the first player to play for both
• 48:29
  teams in the same game in MLB history, but he will catch the
• 48:32
  at bat that he himself started and must be pinch hit for that
• 48:37
  part's. I don't I don't understand any
• 48:40
  of that. How do we get this guy out?
• 48:43
  The the last instant, the last instance that I can recall if
• 48:48
  something weird happening like this was Soto.
• 48:53
  Wasn't this his? Was this his rookie year with
• 48:57
  the Nats? Do you remember this?
• 49:00
  I thought there was something that happened more recently than
• 49:02
  that. No, well, it's very possible,
• 49:05
  but I I thought what in the world was that?
• 49:16
  It was like the Oh yeah, that's what it was.
• 49:20
  Juan Soto hits his home run before his MLB debut.
• 49:23
  This is just a quick excerpt that I'm seeing on Google.
• 49:26
  Soto will still be eligible to play when this suspended game
• 49:28
  resumed Monday at Nationals Park.
• 49:31
  And as a pinch hitter in the 6th inning, the rookie launched A2
• 49:33
  run Homer near the concourse in the second deck in right field
• 49:36
  to provide the difference in Washington's five through
• 49:38
  victory. So I think if I recall, yeah, he
• 49:42
  like pinch hit and then the game got suspended because of
• 49:47
  weather, I believe. And that.
• 49:50
  Yeah, just just another weird baseball thing where it's like,
• 49:53
  you know, that and I I saw people tweeting about it.
• 49:55
  It's like this game, you think about how long this game has
• 49:58
  been around and yet we still see things like this where it's
• 50:01
  just, it doesn't make sense. It's history, but very weird
• 50:05
  history at the end of the day. And.
• 50:11
  It's. I'll, I mean, I'm, I'll be tuned
• 50:14
  in, that's for sure, but it's going to be hard to wrap my head
• 50:17
  around what I'm what I'm witnessing.
• 50:19
  So. Yeah, it's weird.
• 50:21
  That's really weird. I mean though.
• 50:24
  That's kind of that's kind of all us Red Sox fans have to
• 50:26
  really look forward to these days, I guess after a sweep.
• 50:29
  And pretty much, I mean, I'm not officially kissing the
• 50:31
  postseason chances goodbye, but I mean, you get swept at home by
• 50:35
  the D backs. We do have our bet coming up
• 50:37
  here in a few weeks. Not looking up.
• 50:39
  Great. Yeah.
• 50:39
  I don't even know if I'm really looking forward to that, if I'm
• 50:41
  being honest with you, I think I'm.
• 50:43
  Looking forward to the result. Maybe just roll, just roll Aaron
• 50:46
  Judge out there by himself. I'm.
• 50:48
  Down. Should be all right, the bugs,
• 50:50
  you guys, you guys probably, yeah, probably stand a pretty
• 50:52
  good chance there. See, I'll be locked in for that,
• 50:56
  but I'm not I'm not really watching with much optimism.
• 51:00
  So that'll be that'll be some cool, some cool history to to
• 51:04
  witness. But other than that, Nah Nah,
• 51:07
  You got anything else before we get out of here?
• 51:10
  That's it, That's it. One more in August and then we
• 51:13
  made it through. Dog days will be over, then
• 51:15
  we're in the home stretch. September is going to be big
• 51:20
  time, big time. Big time we get let's let's cook
• 51:25
  up some some fun content for September.
• 51:28
  I feel like we got a, we got a fun month ahead of us.
• 51:31
  Yeah, we've got. Up.
• 51:32
  I think things have started. Yeah, we get.
• 51:34
  We probably need to say RIP to a few teams pretty soon.
• 51:38
  Yeah, let's get let's start gearing up for the farewells.
• 51:40
  That's always fun. Well, I mean, depending upon who
• 51:45
  you're saying farewell to. But yeah, let's, let's, let's
• 51:49
  cook some stuff up for, for September and then really get
• 51:52
  primed for a post, a fun post season.
• 51:55
  Cause like we, like we talked about, the picture is relatively
• 52:02
  clear. I would say at this point at
• 52:04
  the, but now we're just trying to figure out seeding for a lot
• 52:08
  of these teams. But who knows, anything can
• 52:11
  happen in a month. So as predictable as it may be
• 52:14
  at this point, as we approach the end of the month, we could
• 52:18
  be seeing some surprises. And that's why September, I
• 52:21
  think will be a fun month of baseball.
• 52:23
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• 52:39
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• 52:41
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• 52:44
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• 52:51
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• 52:53
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• 52:56
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