Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / New Mexico Lawmakers Push Trafficking Reforms Tied to Epstein Failures (10/21/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Down in New Mexico, there has been an
- 0:07Speaker 1: issue with their law regarding sex offenders for quite some time.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Well now, there are new measures underway to try and
- 0:15Speaker 1: close that loophole. And it's been a long time coming.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Because Jeffrey Epstein chose New Mexico for a reason. And
- 0:23Speaker 1: it wasn't just for the solitude. He knew the laws there.
- 0:27Speaker 1: And he knew that it was a place where he
- 0:29Speaker 1: could slide under the radar and continue doing what he
- 0:32Speaker 1: was doing. So today, we have an article from Source
- 0:36Speaker 1: NM and the headline, New Mexico AG Democratic Lawmaker Announced
- 0:41Speaker 1: Legislative Proposals to Empower Human Trafficking Survivors. This article was
- 0:47Speaker 1: authored by Joshua Bolling. New Mexico Attorney General Raul Torres
- 0:52Speaker 1: and State Representative Meredith Dixon reported stood alongside advocates for
- 0:56Speaker 1: human trafficking survivors Thursday morning to announce a pair of
- 1:00Speaker 1: legislative proposals they say will be a key step toward
- 1:04Speaker 1: fixing the state's outdated victim protections. Dixon said she plans
- 1:08Speaker 1: to carry two measures in the upcoming legislative session, one
- 1:11Speaker 1: bill and one proposed constitutional amendment, to increase penalties for
- 1:15Speaker 1: human trafficking, close the loophole that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to
- 1:19Speaker 1: avoid registering as a sex offender in New Mexico and
- 1:22Speaker 1: and chills survivors from being re-traumatized during their traffickers' criminal trials. Well,
- 1:28Speaker 1: that last part, that's going to be difficult. Because when
- 1:32Speaker 1: you're somebody that's been trafficked, and you're dealing with a trial,
- 1:36Speaker 1: it's going to bring back a whole bunch of trauma,
- 1:39Speaker 1: because you're going to have to relive that experience on
- 1:41Speaker 1: the stand more times than not. So I find it
- 1:44Speaker 1: to be a valiant effort, but I don't know how
- 1:46Speaker 1: they're going to get that part of it over the
- 1:48Speaker 1: finish line. The Trafficking Investigation and Meaningful Enforcement Act would
- 1:53Speaker 1: place no statute of limitations on prosecuting sex trafficking, would
- 1:57Speaker 1: raise the age of protection to 18, and would update
- 2:00Speaker 1: criminal penalties, particularly in cases where the victim is a child.
- 2:05Speaker 1: It would also treat forcing someone to work off a
- 2:07Speaker 1: debt as trafficking and expand the list of offenses that
- 2:11Speaker 1: require someone to register as a sex offender. I think
- 2:14Speaker 1: that is the most important part. I think there needs
- 2:18Speaker 1: to be some kind of like uniform rule Where if
- 2:21Speaker 1: you're a sex offender, you're a sex offender, right? Now,
- 2:24Speaker 1: I understand every state has different laws and all that jazz.
- 2:27Speaker 1: But bro, come on. If you're diddling kids in, say,
- 2:31Speaker 1: I don't know, Maine, what makes anyone think that it's
- 2:34Speaker 1: going to be different if your bitch ass moves to
- 2:36Speaker 1: New Mexico? So I think that all the states should
- 2:39Speaker 1: get together, the AGs from the states, and try and
- 2:41Speaker 1: put something, you know, on paper, right? Some kind of cooperation,
- 2:46Speaker 1: whatever it might be. But at the end of the day,
- 2:48Speaker 1: it's up to the state congress... to ratify whatever laws,
- 2:52Speaker 1: or change whatever laws that are already on the books.
- 2:55Speaker 1: So hopefully that's what they're going to do here. Despite
- 2:59Speaker 1: pleading guilty in Florida to procuring a minor for prostitution,
- 3:03Speaker 1: Epstein was never required to register as a sex offender
- 3:06Speaker 1: in New Mexico, where he owned property, largely because New
- 3:09Speaker 1: Mexico law set a lower age limit for victims in Florida.
- 3:13Speaker 1: And that's why he was so adamant about the only
- 3:16Speaker 1: person coming forward to accuse him being that 17-year-old girl.
- 3:20Speaker 1: If it was any of the younger girls, it would
- 3:22Speaker 1: have posed real big problems for Epstein. So that's why
- 3:25Speaker 1: they maneuvered the way they did. And that's why the
- 3:28Speaker 1: letter that we're reading right now between Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers
- 3:32Speaker 1: and the DOJ is so telling. Because it gives you
- 3:35Speaker 1: that inside look, right? You're getting inside baseball as to
- 3:38Speaker 1: how this all went down. And the ugliness that it
- 3:41Speaker 1: revealed is eye-opening. In addition to raising the age of
- 3:46Speaker 1: protection to 18 and expanding the offenses that require sex
- 3:50Speaker 1: offender registration, Dixon said the law would require lifelong sex
- 3:54Speaker 1: offender registration for people convicted of child prostitution crimes. Ert,
- 3:59Speaker 1: full stop. No such thing as a child prostitute. A
- 4:02Speaker 1: child can't consent. So how can a child be a prostitute?
- 4:07Speaker 1: I mean, you can call things whatever you want. Fuck,
- 4:09Speaker 1: you can call me a billionaire. Doesn't make it true.
- 4:12Speaker 1: You know what is true? Jeffrey Epstein wasn't soliciting prostitutes.
- 4:16Speaker 1: He was going after high school-aged girls. Okay? They can't
- 4:19Speaker 1: consent to be prostitutes. Her other measure, the Victim Rights Amendment,
- 4:24Speaker 1: would go to voters in the next general election as
- 4:27Speaker 1: a proposed constitutional amendment if it passes out of both
- 4:30Speaker 1: chambers of the state legislature. The proposed amendment to the
- 4:34Speaker 1: state constitution Victim Rights Section would give survivors greater privacy
- 4:38Speaker 1: protections Expand the state's definition of who counts as a
- 4:42Speaker 1: survivor and give survivors the right to refuse being interviewed
- 4:46Speaker 1: by the suspect's attorneys. Yeah, I don't know about that one. Like,
- 4:51Speaker 1: how are we going to get to the bottom of things, right?
- 4:54Speaker 1: There has to be a deposition. There has to be
- 4:58Speaker 1: a fact-finding period. And if somebody is accused of a crime,
- 5:01Speaker 1: they should be able to defend themselves from those accusations.
- 5:05Speaker 1: So I don't know if that part is going to
- 5:08Speaker 1: make it over the finish line. but maybe some version
- 5:11Speaker 1: of that where it has to be a targeted interview
- 5:15Speaker 1: where they can only focus on the allegations at hand
- 5:18Speaker 1: and not try and destroy survivors' credibility. I think that
- 5:21Speaker 1: would be a bit more digestible with people. Under the amendment,
- 5:26Speaker 1: if a survivor agreed to participate in such an interview,
- 5:29Speaker 1: they would have the power to end it at any
- 5:31Speaker 1: time and they could have a support person in the
- 5:33Speaker 1: room with them. Well, yeah, that's a good idea. Let
- 5:36Speaker 1: them have their lawyer in there or whatever. And if
- 5:39Speaker 1: the interview veers off course, then yeah, they should be
- 5:42Speaker 1: able to stop it. Both measures will close the gap
- 5:45Speaker 1: that leave our survivors of human trafficking and child sexual
- 5:48Speaker 1: exploitation without the protection and voice they deserve. Dixon said
- 5:52Speaker 1: at a news conference in New Mexico's Department of Justice,
- 5:56Speaker 1: Albuquerque headquarters. And you know, New Mexico in general has
- 6:00Speaker 1: a lot of problems. When I was there doing my
- 6:04Speaker 1: investigation down at Zorro Ranch, the things that I heard
- 6:07Speaker 1: from people and not just about Epstein, were stomach-turning. The
- 6:12Speaker 1: amount of girls that are missing that are indigenous in
- 6:15Speaker 1: the state of New Mexico is unbelievable. Now look, I'm
- 6:18Speaker 1: not going to sit here and tell you that Epstein
- 6:20Speaker 1: had anything to do with that, but I don't know.
- 6:24Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. This man loved to get
- 6:27Speaker 1: himself some high school girls everywhere he went. So you
- 6:30Speaker 1: mean to tell me he wasn't doing the same thing
- 6:32Speaker 1: in New Mexico, especially where the age of consent was different?
- 6:37Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that. And when I
- 6:40Speaker 1: look at all the indigenous girls that have gone missing,
- 6:43Speaker 1: and you look at some of the characters in Jeffrey
- 6:46Speaker 1: Epstein's menagerie, well, your boy has some questions. And I
- 6:51Speaker 1: think that's an avenue that certainly needs to be explored. Torres,
- 6:56Speaker 1: who began his career by trying child abuse cases, said
- 6:59Speaker 1: he has long believed New Mexico's protections for survivors of
- 7:03Speaker 1: sex crimes stand among the weakest in the nation. And
- 7:06Speaker 1: remember all the way back in 2021, when I told
- 7:10Speaker 1: you that Jeffrey Epstein chose New Mexico for a reason?
- 7:13Speaker 1: This is why. He knew exactly what he was doing.
- 7:18Speaker 1: As an investigatory subcommittee at the state legislature, and Torres
- 7:22Speaker 1: and MDOJ investigate Epstein's time and potential crimes in New Mexico,
- 7:27Speaker 1: he said it's particularly important for state leaders to make
- 7:30Speaker 1: good on their promises of delivering justice for survivors and
- 7:34Speaker 1: their family. Well, that would be a first. Imagine that,
- 7:37Speaker 1: somebody in power actually doing what they say they're going
- 7:40Speaker 1: to do. We all might drop dead of heart attacks
- 7:43Speaker 1: or strokes if that ever happened. There are literally hundreds
- 7:48Speaker 1: if not thousands of survivors in the state that are
- 7:51Speaker 1: victims of horrific crimes year in and year out, Torres said.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Their perpetrator is not internationally known, politically connected, or otherwise
- 8:00Speaker 1: prominently featured in national news stories. These are the victims
- 8:04Speaker 1: that go unseen all too often in our criminal justice system,
- 8:08Speaker 1: and I think we need to keep that in mind.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Most of these human trafficking situations and cases are nowhere
- 8:14Speaker 1: near on the scale of Jeffrey Epstein. That doesn't make
- 8:17Speaker 1: them any less important, and it certainly doesn't mean we
- 8:20Speaker 1: should ignore them. But I think with the Epstein story,
- 8:23Speaker 1: it shines a light on all of it. And once
- 8:25Speaker 1: that door is open and people walk through, they start
- 8:28Speaker 1: to understand the scope. I mean, a lot of people
- 8:31Speaker 1: don't get it, but right now, in the year 2026,
- 8:35Speaker 1: There's more slavery than there's ever been. Now, maybe not
- 8:39Speaker 1: the kind of slavery that we're all used to, right? People,
- 8:41Speaker 1: you know, out in fields or whatever. But modern day slavery,
- 8:45Speaker 1: human trafficking, people being sold, people being moved. There's open
- 8:49Speaker 1: air slave markets in places like Libya. So this is
- 8:52Speaker 1: a big problem. And when it comes to human trafficking,
- 8:55Speaker 1: we need laws that are way more harsh. So anybody
- 8:59Speaker 1: who's looking to take that step in that direction is
- 9:02Speaker 1: somebody that I'm willing to at least listen to. And
- 9:06Speaker 1: if they're walking the walk, then support them. But the
- 9:09Speaker 1: first step of all of that is getting the conversation started.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Advocates for human trafficking survivors backed the proposals at a
- 9:19Speaker 1: news conference with Dixon and Torres Thursday morning. Shelley Repp,
- 9:22Speaker 1: executive director of Albuquerque non-profit New Mexico Dream Center, which
- 9:27Speaker 1: advocates for trafficking survivors, said the provision to let survivors
- 9:31Speaker 1: opt out of repeatedly recounting the abuses they endured before
- 9:34Speaker 1: a criminal trial will make it easier for them to
- 9:37Speaker 1: navigate the criminal justice system. So there's no doubt about it.
- 9:41Speaker 1: It is an arduous process. And a lot of times
- 9:45Speaker 1: these women aren't believed. Some of the stories that I've
- 9:48Speaker 1: heard directly from survivors are just unreal. And the fact
- 9:52Speaker 1: that people have ignored them for so long, that people
- 9:54Speaker 1: knew about what was going on and looked the other way,
- 9:57Speaker 1: is completely and wholly unacceptable. And the people that did
- 10:00Speaker 1: look the other way, the people that knew what was
- 10:02Speaker 1: going on and chose not to act, they need to
- 10:05Speaker 1: be held accountable as well. And maybe this kind of
- 10:07Speaker 1: legislation is a step in the right direction. It's important
- 10:12Speaker 1: to me and it's important to the clients I represent
- 10:14Speaker 1: to be able to say, you can be protected, she said.
- 10:18Speaker 1: You as a victim are can have the time that
- 10:20Speaker 1: you need to recover. You as a victim can have
- 10:22Speaker 1: the protections that you deserve. We as a legal system
- 10:26Speaker 1: do not want to re-traumatize and re-victimize you. Unfortunately, this
- 10:31Speaker 1: whole process, that's what happens. When you have to go
- 10:34Speaker 1: through this and recount it, it's difficult. But I think
- 10:38Speaker 1: that the one portion of this that they might have
- 10:41Speaker 1: trouble with is the not having the lawyer's interview the accuser.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a pretty big issue, right?
- 10:49Speaker 1: Constitutionally speaking and otherwise. But short of that, everything else
- 10:54Speaker 1: looks good. And I think that they should have no
- 10:57Speaker 1: problem getting the rest of that over the finish line.
- 11:00Speaker 1: But I think most of us have been around long
- 11:02Speaker 1: enough to know that what should happen and what does
- 11:05Speaker 1: happen are two very different things. So as usual, we'll
- 11:10Speaker 1: keep an eye on it and we'll see where it
- 11:11Speaker 1: all goes. All the information that goes with this episode
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