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Hungarian Round heat, France Round looming: S6 Ep 31 dives into the momentum shift across paddocks · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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welcome The back to another edition of the Beef Forever Cool
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podcast. My name is Rex 45.
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Tonight we got some exciting stuff to talk about.
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It seems like every time I get on the show I say have some
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exciting stuff to talk about. I guess because most likely
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racing is exciting. Exciting to have it back.
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The world super bike just happened this past weekend.
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It was some fun races to to be seen and Moto GPS this weekend
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and Le Mans. It's back to every two weeks.
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know, three-week break when it when the season first started.
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Rd. with a show on the road. With no further ado, Harry.
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Yo, man, welcome to the show. How you doing tonight man?
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Going good man ready to get busy man.
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I'm ready for whatever topic, man, because it was a great
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weekend and super bike racing, man, and I got a lot of stuff to
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talk about, man. That's what's up.
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That's what's up. You know, I, I, do you follow
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basketball at all? I mean, you know Houston, you
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know, do you have anything to say about the Houston?
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Yeah, I think it's I think Katie Go end up leaving, but I can't
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believe the Lakers came in and beat them for sure.
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I thought that Houston had the better team, but it seemed like
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old man LeBron still got it. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's
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pretty wild to see. But it it's tough I think,
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because I think that Houston is a pretty good, has a pretty good
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coach, but LeBron is like a coach in his own right.
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So you got JJ and him it it it's they they they played the
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patient game, you know what I'm saying?
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They played the old man basketball.
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Yeah. So that's what's up, man.
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So your week was good man. Oh absolutely man, I've been
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having a good week so far. Alright, that's what's up man.
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Can't wait to chop it up man and hear your thoughts on the
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weekend and stuff like that. And I know Ducatis are in front,
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so at least half of you is happy.
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We'll talk about, we'll talk about a pro year for Moto GP as
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well. Tyson, man, welcome to the show.
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How you doing tonight man? What's up Rexy?
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It's going good. Good to see you guys tonight.
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Good to chat. Yeah, man.
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Likewise, man. It's, you know, we got all
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technical difficulties and it's not always, not always easy, you
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know? Smitty and his difficulties
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every night. You know, yeah, it's, it's it's
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tough when it, when it, when it's, when it's technical
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issues, Yeah. But we'll get it resolved, I
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think, as that's my that must be me wearing my tech hat.
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We'll get it. We'll figure it out eventually.
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Yeah, you're you'll figure it out.
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Eventually, yeah, I'll show up. I'll show up and do some
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troubleshooting and get it going, man, You're excited for
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what? What you're excited about World
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Super Bike and what are you and and are you excited about Moto
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GP coming up? Yeah, I caught bits and pieces
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of the World Super Bike races this weekend.
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They were pretty good. I, I think it was at race 2 or
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the Super Bowl race where there was the red flag.
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I was excited for that race and then that red flag came out and
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I was like, all right, well, Rebecca Bulloga winning
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everything. So here we are.
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But I'm excited for France again.
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Let's and I see that the Did someone post in the group chat
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that there's rain this weekend in?
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France, like yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Zarko can pull it off
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again. Listen, man, I'm, I'm not saying
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anything, but I think so it's just like, it was just like, I
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forget what the percentage is, but it was like 79% or something
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ridiculous on, on Sunday. So, oh, no heavy rain on Sunday,
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light rain on on Saturday. So yeah, man, mixed condition
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this weekend. But I will go around the horn,
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so to speak. And, and hear your takes on
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World Super bike and, and then we'll, we'll jump over to Moto
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GP. So how are you?
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I mean, what are your thoughts on on on the past weekend and
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and all the shenanigans that happened?
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OK, so like let's let's just start from like the issue with
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BMW, man, BMW had an issue, a big time issue.
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I don't know what happened. We can start off with what
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happened to Petrucci with Sofa alone when he like injured his
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ribs or something on the end with her it was.
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At Sefagaloo, right? Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, it was, it just started off from there and I was
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just like, man, BMW just did not have a good weekend.
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And, and I and I think in the move along with the BMWs, I
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think, you know, the, the Marshalls got it wrong because
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it was actually, you know, the issue with Ola.
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Mirror. That was actually Sam Lowe's
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really caused that problem and they gave local teller that
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those those two long penalties and they didn't, they never came
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back and corrected that. Never came back.
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Never came back and corrected and I'm just like wow.
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Because, you know, at first glance you saw what had
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happened. You know, like, wow, he's like,
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wow, what happened? How did local telly do that?
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And then all of a sudden, then I watched it again.
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I was like, Nah, that was Sam Lowe's where he just lost that
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front and his rear stepped out on him and hit locked local
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telly, right? I mean, right into Oliveira.
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But it was. It's just like walking down the
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hallway and your friend pushes you into a girl, right?
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That guy you saw, whatever you found, right?
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And the Bill Davis just couldn't couldn't catch a catch a break,
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man, You know, like I hated to see that happen.
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You know, Olivera being in 3rd place and then he trying to get,
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you know, trying to battle the Ducatis and all of a sudden
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something like that happened, man.
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It's super duper unfortunate, man.
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And you know, like a having a concussion and then watching
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that and then it all of a sudden when I saw that.
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And it just takes you how far helmet technology has went
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because like the view, I watched what happened to Simon Shelly
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like after that. And like I kind of like watched
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both things that happened and just to see how his helmet came
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off versus what happened to Olivera's.
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Like, man, the technology for helmets have came a long way
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because that was almost a similar incident that happened.
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The freaking motorcycle ended up coming on Olivera and he was
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still stayed locked in. Nothing never happened.
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So, you know, kudos to the technology and people that
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continue to further on, you know, to do their research and
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give us not just only the professionals, but us as the
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riders too, because they pass it along.
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The technology, you know, has came a long way.
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And I was, you know, I was impressed on that, even though
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it's an unfortunate situation. So we we all have to thank
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Joanne Meer for all those crashes under the.
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Yeah, he's definitely. He's a crash king to Super Dave
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Osborne, the Moto GP man, no. No doubt.
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Indeed, it's been crazy. Thanks man.
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Yeah, well, your thoughts of of what you did catch of the
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weekend and I, I don't know if you saw any of the the crash and
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the incident between Oliveira and and then also for Chucci
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like Harry you mentioned. Yeah, I saw that crash and it
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was it was really weird. I feel like the angle of it,
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maybe from the cameras and just the way those corners were like
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it took, I like kept rewinding it to be like, what happened
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here. And so was Harry O Wright.
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Did Sam Lowe's like tuck his front as he crashed into
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Lockatelli? And then he crashed into it was
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weird. It almost, you know, I don't I
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you know, I heard we heard Harry O mentioned, you know, similar
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accidents. But you know, you look at the
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accident where PJ Jacobs Jacobs had on the on the V4R and how
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the bike bucked right, like kind of did that sideway.
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I'm not used to seeing bikes do that.
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And, and I don't want to say Sam Lowe's did the same thing, but
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it was almost like the bike went sideways, you know, instead of,
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you know, like losing the front and just kind of, you know,
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sliding out. I got you.
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Kind of like almost like both tires sliding at the same.
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Time. Yeah, like he grabbed a handful
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of brakes, maybe let go and almost like both wheels came off
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the ground for a little bit. Or maybe the front letting go,
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the front wheel came off the ground a little bit.
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Yeah, you know, that was certainly a scary crash.
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And did Olivera only walk away with a concussion?
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I believe so. I believe so.
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He didn't he he was out. No, he has some he's posted
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later. He has like muscle bruises and
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bruises to his muscles around some of the bones and stuff like
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that I thought. He was, when I saw that, I was
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like, he's done for the season. Like he definitely like cracked
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his rib cage and like broke both his collarbones or something
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like that. It looked because he like landed
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like on his side and then like smacked his head.
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So like I thought he was going to be done for a while.
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But that is quite impressive that it was just a concussion
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and I'm assuming he'll be back for the next round.
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Yeah, yeah, riders want to come back.
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You know what's crazy and we'll talk about this a little bit,
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guys, is that just the amount of unfortunate mishaps that's
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happened to this dude? I don't want to say bad luck
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because we we've been saying this so long.
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We might have to send them somewhere and see if they can
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work something on them. But you know, like this dude,
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like I I thought at least in Moto in world super bike, he
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would have caught a break, right?
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And and like, no, it's, it's like magnet for this dude.
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Yeah, people just get hit with like the unlucky stick, you know
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what I mean? Like there's just nothing they
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can do. They can't get out of their own
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way. Yeah, yeah, not even their way,
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right, Because it's and you know, and we see all the time,
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but it's like the same thing with Alex Rens, you know, with
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the injuries and stuff like that.
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We see it with with with Oliveira.
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We've seen it in basketball and stuff like that, that certain
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players doing they, they when they fall like they, they, they,
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they just break. You know, you see other games,
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you know, we've seen Jack Miller go caught Wheeling down him and
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his bike into a turn many years ago on that Honda and just
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walked away. You know, this, these guys.
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So I mean, I you know, what do you got?
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What do you have to say that Harry?
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I mean, you know, like just, you know, is it is, is it, you know,
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is it something that way? He he got to yeah.
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I think it has something to do with like, maybe like his diet
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and he might need to a, a, a different, maybe a, a different
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kind of strength regiment, like a something because it's just,
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it's, it's been happening ever since like he started off with
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KTM, you know, from Moto GP to now and, and it, it just seemed
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like he just can't catch a break.
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He has the skills and he produces every weekend, but it's
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just, I don't know if it's something that he gets.
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Maybe I, I, I just tried, I tried to figure out because it
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was like you said, it's unfortunate.
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It just continues to follow him everywhere he goes.
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And I just hate that happen to him, man, because he was he was
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on. He was, it seemed like he was
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going to be on a tear to bring it, you know, bring BMW some
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kind of prominence, you know, in in the shadows of top right.
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Yeah, and you know, and not we weren't making fun of Honda, but
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we were talking about the unfortunate part of Honda with
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their writers, Jake Dixon and some cat being out and and not
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having any luck. And it's not the guy Sam Cat,
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right. He was hurt a lot last year,
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Moto GP. And I think that kind of, you
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know, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt him a bit, you know, What are your
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thoughts, Tyson man? On, on, on, on, on, Olivier.
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I mean, is it? Is it?
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Is it time to be a commentator for the Portuguese channel?
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I mean, I'm sure that wouldn't be a bad gig, but I mean, he's
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probably got some life left in him to, you know, Moonlight in
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World Super Bike and then Moto America for a couple of years,
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you know? Yeah, I mean, I guess as a
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writer you just tough it out. I mean, could you know Grant
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Hill, he had a good run like after like the age 32 when he
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could like whatever he stay healthy.
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Yeah, I mean, he had that that's a was pretty nasty crash.
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He only walks away with concussion.
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Like it wasn't hurt that bad. So I don't know, I I wouldn't be
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too worried about it, especially if he's been having such
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terrible health problems. I'd take this probably a good
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sign. It was a nasty crash.
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Only walked away with a concussion.
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Could have been worse, could have had some broken bones,
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could have been Jorge Martin, who just, you know, 2025 stepped
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on a bike and just anytime he touched a bike, something was.
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Broke, you know, I hear an engine.
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Oops. Yeah, basically, yeah.
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Here's 1 outside slips in the hospital, you know.
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But. I mean, to that point as well,
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you know, Jorge was hurt all last year and now he's doing
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great this year. So it's just sometimes it's you
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know, you get good luck or, you know, 3-4 years of real terrible
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luck and then maybe, you know, your turns around after that.
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But. Right, right.
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A whole way. To find out.
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There's there's really exactly you got to get back on that
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bike. No doubt about that.
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Let's talk about Gerloff. He I think he had a pretty good
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weekend. You know, I'm pretty sure race 1
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he would like to finish further up the, the ladder.
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But race, race 2, you know, he, he, he had to fight in them.
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Yeah, he did. He did and, and, and to like in,
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in race 2 in 5th place to get some points.
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And I was, I was impressed by that because you know, like he,
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he's like our only hope right now, our American hope.
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And he's, you know, like he's making it happen.
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Like I was surprised honestly, because he was fighting in race
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one and then all of a sudden you see him in making 5th place.
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I'm like, man, OK, maybe he can, you know, this, this could
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progress to the next race, to the next series.
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And like, just to see him just, you know, like 5th place is
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huge. Like, of course we want to see
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him win, but to to do that and you know, the Hungarian GP, man,
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that was impressive. Oh no, it was pretty impressive.
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I would get thoughts Tyson on girl off and you agree with what
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Harry O said it we we need more Americans in in in this top
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series. I mean, of course we need more
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Americans in the top series, but at the same time, it is good to
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see when the few Americans that we do have representing us get
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some good results. He joined, what, a couple years,
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two, 2-3 years ago? Gary.
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Joined Mike. No, he's been there for 'cause
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he was on Yamaha first. So I think he did a couple of
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year, maybe three years on the Yamaha and then he did a couple
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years on the BMW and then this is year 2 on, on, on the Cowie.
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If if I had that right, he could, he could have done four
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years on the Yamaha, but I think he did 3.
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But you know, I feel like. I remember on the Yamaha and he
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was, he was relatively promising and then after that just kind of
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didn't do much but. You just could never match
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yourself together on that BMW. Right.
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Yeah, because you seem to really seem to struggle on that bike,
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that Beamer, unless your name's Koprak.
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Yeah. Exactly.
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I was going to say, you know, we've, you know, guys have been
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on the show talking about, you know, Cam Beaubier saying that
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last year anytime he tried, he tries to push on the BMW.
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It was like, I wanted to kill him.
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So it's a fine line sometimes, you know, you, we face death all
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the time. But like, when it's that in your
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face, it's hard to like, let me chill a little bit.
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Let's let's talk about the, the, the the Bitmoto guys, because I
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mean, Lowe's was Alex Lowe's was looking well as as well.
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I think he has some mechanical right.
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Everybody serves correct. But you know, that package is
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starting to come together because realistically as as
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we've been saying is the is the Ducati AKA Bulgar show.
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But like how we, you know, overall between, you know,
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Gerloff and, and the other two bikes, I mean, what are your
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thoughts on on what they're doing this past weekend?
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For the Yamahas I I think no. No in the Kawasaki, sorry.
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Oh, in the Kawasaki. Oh yeah, for sure.
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Like yeah. And the big motos.
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Yeah. It it's just it's good to see
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them making, you know, a stride to make it up, back up front.
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And like you said, like it's always been the Ducati show, but
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it just seems like like the Kawasaki got got some grit in
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them to like make it make it a fight to the front.
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And just to see what happened this weekend, Like with
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especially, you know, we keep talking about it because
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Gerloff, but just to see him being being able to overtake and
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like have the speed in the in the corners and just to make it
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up front. I was like, OK, well Kawasaki
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got something going on in up under the engine.
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Right, Right. Yeah, I agree.
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I mean, you know, fortunately for him, he was passing BMWs and
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Yamahas and not too many Ducatis, but still.
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And we take what we take. Yeah, he only passed one Ducati.
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He only passed one Ducati. To be completely honest, he
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only. Passed one.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. What 6 Ducatis?
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And it was, it was 6 Ducatis I think.
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I think it's, it's, well, it's more than six, I think because
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you got Barney, I got 2. You got the factory that got 2.
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You got to go yellows one then is it Ryan, somebody like the
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British dude? He's on one right.
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And I think I think there's there's a few yeah.
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So I think it might be 7. OK, you can I guess I can look.
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What were your thoughts, Tyson on on, you know what the Kawi's
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been doing and. Do they actually have any
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factory support? Kawasaki.
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Well girl off is factory Kawi, but there's only one bike.
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There's only one. OK, I for some reason I thought
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they factory support was completely gone from World Super
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Bike. But it is quite impressive for
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how little support they're probably getting in comparison
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to Yamaha, Honda, Ducati and those guys.
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So I mean, if I was Honda in Yamaha, I'd probably be pissed
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if Kawasaki was beating us. Yeah, 8 Ducatis on the line, man
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8 Ducatis. So it, it, it, it, it's tough.
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And, and for them to do that because we, you, you would have,
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we would have hoped that Honda would have been doing something
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better. Because I think ICA and and
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Chavi last year showed that the, the Honda could be of 75, you
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know, 6-7 as if my daughter was here, but you know what I mean.
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So you would have figured that. But to see them, you know, to
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see the Kawasaki and a bit motor in front of those guys, it's,
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it's, it's pretty impressive. It certainly is.
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I mean, I I feel like at this point for any of them to
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actually compete with Ducati at this point would be to come out
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with just some slick new bike. But I just don't see any of them
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actually coming out with new iterations of their, you know,
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big one thousands. I think they're just going to
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keep, you know, throwing parts here, here and there on it,
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hoping it does something without actually putting any actual
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money into the project. Yeah.
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You know what the going thing is now?
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Throw a wing on it. Just throw a wing on it.
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Throw a wing on it. It makes it faster.
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Right, right, right, and Beyoncé's song remixed.
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You know who you know who's impressive also this weekend
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that I paid attention to and if he he's like my dark horse now
23:52
after watching the race Baldessari, I don't know if the
23:55
essence of Andrea Ioni has. He was left on that team, but he
24:00
was riding like a maniac this weekend, you know?
24:03
Get a darling crash too, yeah? Yeah, he did.
24:06
That's a fast one. Yeah, it was.
24:08
I'm excited for him. I was.
24:10
I was. I am a huge fan of his.
24:12
I mean, I don't know the details on, you know, why he left VR46
24:16
Academy. You know how he found his way
24:19
out of Moto 2 after, you know, almost fighting for the
24:23
championship in one year and then just having, you know, a
24:27
bad luck and suit the sport stint.
24:29
Then came into world super bike, had bad luck and went to Moto E
24:33
and Moto E. We went out of business.
24:34
Like you know that, you know, I mean, look, that's that to to
24:42
still believe as a as a human being that, you know, good
24:45
fortunes are in front of you. That's man, because that's a lot
24:48
of like a lot of swallow, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:53
They will to win. And he was like, I, I just like,
24:56
I like the way like he's rough. Like he doesn't care.
24:59
Like he want to rub shoulders with you.
25:01
Like, you know, he was making it.
25:03
He was, he was running with a little shoulders this past
25:06
weekend. I was like, OK, that's what I
25:07
like to see. It was safe, safe stuff.
25:10
But you know, like he was letting you know, he was letting
25:12
his competitors know that he's there.
25:14
Like you're not just going to out ride me just because you
25:17
ought to Ducati or whatever. And because you have a name, I'm
25:19
going to let you know that I can race too, and compete with you
25:22
all. Yeah, it's, it's, I don't know
25:24
if it was like a mental block or something, you know, like
25:26
similar to Ben Simmons, if that's what you want to call it.
25:29
But he, it just seemed like he, he just couldn't find his way,
25:34
you know, for, for about four years and not for lack of
25:38
trying. And then to see him do that and
25:41
any and he's been doing from the first round because he was on
25:43
the podium in the first round and I think in the first race
25:45
that at Phillip Island. So it's definitely there to see
25:48
the team, the goal 11 team be successful after Noni is huge
25:54
because, you know, I, I, you know, rumors from last year was
25:58
that he was putting up some money and stuff like that.
26:00
But he also, you know, he didn't seem happy with the team and and
26:04
and and so forth. So to to have to have success
26:07
after somebody like an Anoni leave the team, it's also huge
26:11
for for everyone. What your thoughts, Tyson?
26:15
I mean, yeah, I he looked great this weekend, too.
26:18
I thought, as Hario said, that like fire that he's got and that
26:21
like, you know, drive that he he has to win.
26:24
Like I really I feel like he's just got a little bit more, you
26:28
know, tenacity to him then maybe like Iker has.
26:30
And I would like to at least can see him like as the season goes
26:34
on, like trying to, you know, make better pushes for those
26:38
higher podium spots. I didn't know about his history,
26:42
you know, the last couple of years or so.
26:44
But I mean, sometimes, sometimes you may be a great person or
26:49
exceptional at something, but you're just in a bad fit.
26:52
And it takes a little while to like keep trying to figure out
26:55
like, you know, what you are good at and where you can be fit
26:57
in to succeed. So, you know, hopefully this is
27:00
that spot for him and and he's figured it out and and he can
27:03
turn that, you know, sort of luck around much like, you know,
27:06
Miguel Oliveira. Right, right.
27:09
You know, and, and the crazy thing, you know, is to speak of
27:12
Baltazari, they, he used to kill those guys in Moto 2.
27:16
You know what I'm saying? That that's that's the thing.
27:19
So I mean, like, it's, it's hard for a human being to, you know,
27:23
to, to, to surrender when you know, like I've been killing you
27:26
for so long. And it's just like, OK, you
27:28
might have me now, but you still have that in the back of your
27:30
head. Like, man, I, I know I'm better
27:32
than this dude. He's on a better team.
27:34
He's whatever, whatever, whatever.
27:35
But like, yeah, those guys are killers, man.
27:37
So I don't, I don't. That's the thing that's wild to
27:40
see because it's like they don't fear each other like that.
27:44
It would eat at me for sure. Like if I knew that I like beat
27:47
you in a lower, a lower, like whatever rank and then we went
27:51
to the next one and you were being me, I'd be pissed.
27:54
And I'd I would be, I would see red and I'd try to win, you
27:57
know? It's just like Rick said, Rick
28:00
said he used to be a part of VR46 Academy, and I think that
28:04
probably has something to do with it.
28:05
I mean, like, you know, those, those, those guys grow up
28:08
looking at Rossi like a guy. And if you don't have like and
28:11
you have that pet, you know that, you know that that push
28:14
from Rossi, they, they might have messed with him a little
28:16
mentally, you know? Right, right.
28:18
And and some people can't handle fame.
28:23
Oh, absolutely, You know what I mean?
28:24
Like some people, they just they get famous and they lose their
28:28
ish, you know what I mean? And and and that's, you know,
28:32
that could be part of it too, because you don't like, because
28:34
Bulaga, they those are falling out to Bulaga.
28:36
I mean, he's back at the camp and stuff at the ranch and you
28:39
see him doing stuff, but he left the Academy as well.
28:42
And and so, you know, it's it, you know, there's other riders.
28:46
I mean, they're not the only one that's left, you know what I'm
28:48
saying? I mean, Manzi was part of it for
28:50
a little bit as well. So there was a bunch of, you
28:53
know, there's, there's a decent amount of Italian riders that
28:55
were part of it for a little bit that, you know, we don't see
28:57
them as much. But it, it, it, it's, it's, I'm
29:02
happy that they're figuring it out as human beings because you,
29:05
when you get the opportunity that these, these guys have had
29:09
in a situation, it doesn't, everyone doesn't get that.
29:13
And, you know, when you're in it, you can lose sight of it
29:16
and, and stuff like that. So for him to get a chance to
29:18
kind of build back his name, his reputation, show people again
29:23
that he really can't ride. He's, he really should be
29:26
compared to ICA and Bulaga and Oliveira and stuff like that,
29:30
'cause you know, he, they, they were, they were all like, you
29:33
know, those kind of riders back in Moto 2, correct?
29:36
Now let's talk about, you know, the factory guys, ICA and and
29:42
Bulaga and even we'll, we'll, we'll go back to Baltazar
29:45
because he was in there a bit as well running up front.
29:48
The Ducatis look good overall this past weekend.
29:51
I mean, it seems like the V4, the new double sided swing arm
29:56
is giving these, these guys, you know, a few seconds over the
30:02
course of over the course of a, of a race, not necessarily the
30:05
course of a of a, of a single lap.
30:07
What are your thoughts on on on what they did Hario and and does
30:11
Ika have a chance to to eventually catch catch Buluga?
30:16
This season, talk about Lukona, talk about his teammate.
30:20
Ika, Lukona and and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:23
Yeah, I think, man, that that that what was that the the Super
30:29
Bowl race that was like the only one that he was able to like the
30:32
longest, the longest, what, 2 like 2 seconds almost that he
30:35
had to lead from him. Yeah, I'm impressed by the
30:38
Ducati man, even though I'm a Ducati guy.
30:41
They have a good package. And then and like you said, like
30:43
it's just crazy how like they've been having a single sided
30:46
swinger on for like forever. And that was the thing that
30:49
brought me to Ducati and just to see how it performs and how it
30:53
exists. Power to the ground now and it's
30:55
so stable like in the corners and I just I don't think no,
31:00
it's like I said, like we continue to say that it's just a
31:02
it's it's a 7 and 11711 to the end that's it like it's it's
31:07
either one of those guys. You know, it's going to be, it
31:09
might be have some like some issues that like, you know,
31:12
might be some technical issues coming down with the rest of the
31:14
races. But at the end of the day, it's
31:16
going to be those two guys. And you know, that factory team,
31:20
it's impeccable and you you see it on display every weekend and
31:24
it's bull against the win. And but if he has one slip up,
31:28
his teammate is going to cause 'cause him, you know, 'cause
31:32
some problems for him and might, you know, as the rounds
31:34
continue, might win a championship.
31:36
Now, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but just one slip up
31:40
for Bugler. Like I always miss his name.
31:45
One slip up. One slip up.
31:47
His teammate can catch him. One slip up.
31:50
Oh, no doubt. Listen, man, you know, we, we,
31:54
you just need a little somebody spark off the right fire
31:56
underneath him. It's it's a whole different
31:57
thing. What are your thoughts, Tyson?
31:59
On, on, on the factory guys. I mean, they're clearly doing
32:04
well. They basically won two the
32:06
entire season, so I don't think they have to worry about the
32:08
championship from anybody else. I feel like Eager's definitely
32:14
going to have to pull some wins out of somewhere if he wants to,
32:17
if he wants to take the championship from Bulaga, and
32:20
Bulaga is going to have to crash quite a bit for the rest of the
32:23
year for that. But yeah, I still think this is
32:28
Bulaga's show to wrap up. I mean, at this point, I feel
32:31
like he could just settle for second or thirds for the rest of
32:33
the year and still easily walk away with it.
32:37
But I do got to say they got quite the name lineup, Nicola
32:40
Bulaga. And I feel like the best name,
32:42
Iker Lekowona. Like, I want to have a kid just
32:44
to name it Iker Lekowona because it's like so fun to say.
32:49
Like I hear it and I like say it to myself when I hear it.
32:52
Right, right. No, definitely.
32:54
I agree with you there for sure, you know.
32:58
Yeah, I agree with you there for sure.
33:00
You know, what about the So you don't think any of the other
33:03
guys, Alec, Sam Lowe's, Baltazari and you know, but he
33:09
still look nice out there, you know, 24 year old guy, man.
33:13
I mean, he's running up front. It's interesting.
33:17
I mean I don't know if it's the double sided swing arm or he's
33:20
just happier with with the satellite team, but he seems to
33:24
be writing better at the beginning of the season than
33:27
last year. Right, I think, like you said,
33:31
like he he's the old man on the on the in the grid now, right
33:35
paddock and he's a champion. He's proven.
33:38
So it's not like he doesn't know what to do.
33:40
But he doesn't have the, I don't think he has the right people in
33:43
his garage to help him battle those top guys.
33:46
But he's going to, he's going to ride the best he can and he's
33:49
going to cause him problems. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
33:53
He he probably he could, he, he could steal one or two.
33:56
I think he could steal. He steal one or two.
33:58
Especially with Oliveri out now. You know, yeah.
34:01
And you know, when they go to some of the more familiar tracks
34:05
to him and stuff like that. What are your thoughts, Tyson on
34:07
on the rest of the Ducati guys? I completely Speaking of the
34:11
rest of the Ducati guys, I completely forgot to bring up or
34:13
respond to that. Ducati's been sandbagging for
34:17
the last 60 years with their single sided swing arm and
34:20
they're just like finally a worthy challenger with top rack
34:24
and the legs get rid of it. And then he leaves and they just
34:27
dunk on the rest of the grid. But.
34:30
They clearly are looking good. I can like, I think Bullock is
34:32
going to wrap up this championship, but I can
34:34
definitely see a bunch of different Ducati guys pulling
34:37
away like a win or a second place throughout the year.
34:42
Like they the bike is clearly quite good and like I can like
34:47
Batista's doing well. He's getting fourths and fifths
34:49
mostly. I can see him pulling out some
34:52
podium spots and a win at some point here.
34:54
Yeah, I think so. I mean, if, if these guys can
34:57
qualify well, I think if Batista can qualify well, Montana,
35:01
Montella and Baltazari, I think these are guys that that can,
35:07
you know, challenge for at least third and 2nd place.
35:11
You know what I'm saying? Impossible first place because
35:13
if they, if they're starting on the grid, then it is what it is.
35:16
And it's just a matter of time before, you know, they figure it
35:20
out because the gap is getting closer, you know, from, from to
35:25
Bulaga, from the rest of from everybody else.
35:27
They are getting closer to him, which is good.
35:30
He's not getting he's not stretching them out because that
35:33
would be scary if he was at the at this early on, you know what
35:39
I'm saying? I am excited to see what's going
35:41
on there. Let's get into, well, we can
35:44
talk a little bit of, of Moto 2 because Moto 2 was crazy as well
35:48
because we, we, we don't see a lot of Ducatis running in Moto
35:52
Moto 2IN in Super Sport. And so did you get a chance to
35:56
check that out and what are your thoughts on the Super Sport
35:59
class? I did not get a chance to catch
36:02
Super Sport. Man, yeah, I got to watch Super.
36:04
Sport. It's.
36:09
All the Chinese bikes. That's all I've heard about it
36:10
this. Year, yeah.
36:12
Yeah, listen, it it, it's getting, it's getting
36:15
interesting. So it's, we got to find out
36:17
who's helping them build the motor.
36:19
But that class is not a. It's not.
36:22
For sure. Calling it right there you go.
36:24
It's not a Ducati class anymore because it seems like it's the
36:28
Yamahas and and the ZX motors that are front.
36:31
There's a couple of Ducatis, but you know, I think they should
36:35
have moved on to the newer, newer bike and instead of
36:37
running the older bike, but we shall see.
36:39
Let's talk about this weekend coming up guys, we got Moto GP
36:43
in Le Mans. I, I like Le Mans because I like
36:47
saying the name, but also I, I, you know, I think a car racing
36:51
first, but to see motorcycle racing there and to see, you
36:56
know, over the years now of watching I, you know, I can't
36:59
believe it's been 8 different winners in the last eight years
37:04
at at this track. It's it's one of those things, I
37:07
mean, it shows you that like this is a track that anybody,
37:11
it's anybody's win. You know, you go to certain
37:16
track herez, you're like I Alex Marquez, Marc Marquez, maybe
37:19
Martine, you know, here's a track where you know, the guy in
37:23
15 places saying, hey, man, this is a track I might have a shot
37:26
because it's always, it's always, you know, statistically
37:29
it's been a new winner of the year.
37:31
So, you know, what do you guys think of Lamont's the
37:35
atmosphere, the fact that they, you know, they have this cycle
37:38
race that's going on there as well on a track, which is pretty
37:42
cool. So I don't know if you saw, but
37:43
Wrens won. So he he got his first podium of
37:46
the year on on a road, on a road like, but but also just the
37:53
atmosphere because it sounds like it's party 24/7 from, from
38:02
my understanding from Wednesday night until until Monday
38:07
morning. Yeah, I just could.
38:10
The only thing that's in my head has been stuck in my head is
38:14
seeing Zarko dead with his tooth missing, crying.
38:17
That's just being a repeated thing going on in my head.
38:19
I can just see him now and that's all we think.
38:23
I've been thinking about it. I think it's I think it's
38:25
Zarko's away again. Is, is him and Fabio.
38:27
I think like, I mean, they, they stay home track, then who knows
38:30
the track better than them? You know, like, and you know,
38:34
Fabio's a champion. So like I forward and this is
38:36
home track. So I foresee him or Zarko back
38:41
or Zarko back flipping right into another win, especially
38:44
what the weather's going to be like on Sunday.
38:46
Right. You know, if Zarko didn't have a
38:49
decent weekend the last round, I would.
38:52
I would. I would have disagreed with you,
38:54
but the fact that he had a decent round and I don't know,
38:57
it seems like maybe they just give him the parts around this
39:00
time of year because he's going to Le Mans or whatever, because
39:04
it's like they gave it to him and they took it away.
39:09
So it might be Jack Miller's weekend, too.
39:11
Might be Jack Miller. All right, all right.
39:14
Might be Jack Miller like because he's a he's a good ride
39:16
in the rain too and, and, and these kind of conditions.
39:18
So he's somebody I want to like really pay attention to this
39:21
weekend because he's still kind of like on the radar, but his
39:24
conditions like this, he always push it to, you know, he always
39:28
take it to the top guys. So I look forward to seeing him
39:31
doing something impressive. All right, well, I would if he
39:33
wasn't on a Yamaha, I would agree who if he wasn't on AV4
39:37
Yamaha, I would agree with you. I, I, I, I think that bike is,
39:40
is is trouble because because he we we've already had some mixed
39:44
conditions and he did struggle and has been struggling where in
39:47
the past he would take advantage of that.
39:51
So what are your thoughts Tyson and Le Mans man and you know is
39:56
is it? Is it on your bucket list?
39:58
I would love to go to Lamont, either a bike race or a car race
40:02
for sure. But for this race, I I'd like to
40:08
see Zarko do it again. Like especially as you were
40:11
saying, the mixed conditions last round and the alleged mixed
40:15
conditions that are going to be coming up this round.
40:17
Like I think it'd be amazing to see him, you know, 8 different
40:20
winners and he's the one that does the back-to-back that in,
40:24
in wet races. That would be sick.
40:27
But I was thinking just to just to go with the eight different
40:30
winners, let's make it 9. I was thinking like Diego
40:32
Marrera or Ayagora first win. That's a good one.
40:37
Yeah, that's a good one. Then Aprilia is slick and I can
40:41
see I getting it. But then also just out of
40:44
nowhere, like the Honda did well there last year and in the wet
40:48
and just a random, you know, didn't even think it was going
40:50
to happen. Diego Marrera.
40:52
Yeah, that that is possible. I can see that I throw Raul
40:56
Fernandez in there as well. He he he can sneak one in.
41:00
And especially if, you know, after what we're seeing already
41:05
this year and some of last year, it's hard to predict what is
41:08
going to happen once you know, they it it, they leave the grid
41:12
because we we can't predict with the weather, you know, with
41:15
those crashes or you know it. One thing we know Marquez is
41:20
going to kind of out he's it'll be it'll be odd if he doesn't
41:24
outsmart everybody, right? That's that's the one thing
41:28
we've seen so far. He's been able to outsmart
41:30
everybody. And and so maybe some of these
41:33
writers are just going to be like, hey, man, I'm a follow up.
41:35
I'm a follow what Marquez does because.
41:38
He said you. Know the rules.
41:42
Yeah, yeah, you got some up your sleeve maybe.
41:46
Good gracious man. So let me ask this.
41:50
I mean, who, who, who have the most to prove at this point in
41:54
time for this weekend, right? I know that we, we can't control
41:58
the weather, but who, who really needs to stand out this weekend,
42:02
whether they need to. I mean, at the moment, we know
42:04
Alex Renz doesn't have a seat. I think we're unsure about
42:08
Miller have having a seat. I think those are the two guys
42:12
right now. I'm trying to think of anyone
42:14
else that's going to be out of motor GP, but these are these
42:17
are folks that I got to that I would say would have to start,
42:20
you know, trying to fight for their career.
42:21
Anyone else that you see? Mirror is mirror on the
42:24
contract. Yeah, Mirror signed.
42:26
I think he's going to be signed a Honda again.
42:29
For a couple more, rans for sure.
42:32
Rans for sure, because and those those guys are Moto 2 already
42:36
like Santa and David Alonzo, they they're taking somebody's
42:41
seat. So I don't know is is Zarko in
42:46
the country? Right?
42:47
I don't think Zarko, yeah. Yeah, I think, I think, I think
42:50
Zarko, I think Zarko might be good.
42:53
I think they're working out the details.
42:54
So I think he's trying to get a factory deal, but it sounds like
42:56
he's going to be there one more year.
42:58
They just, he's just trying to guarantee parts or something
43:00
like that. I mean, I don't know if they're
43:04
ready, man. I mean, I, I, I don't know if
43:06
there's Moto 2 guys are ready. You know, those, those, those
43:09
one year, 2 year guys in Moto 2. I don't know if they're ready.
43:12
But what, what do you got Tyson on, on who?
43:15
Who needs to show themselves out this weekend?
43:19
Yeah, I mean, that I got to agree with Rinz, Jack Miller.
43:22
I mean, I don't feel like they're going to keep their
43:24
seats regardless of how they perform in the next couple
43:27
weeks. I think they probably could win
43:29
a couple races this year and they're probably still going to
43:31
get sacked. But I like to think Frankie
43:35
Morbedelli more out of him this year.
43:39
Like he was doing so well at the beginning of last year.
43:41
And then I don't I feel like I just don't see him, you know,
43:44
he's nowhere. At least he's not murdering
43:47
people. That's good.
43:49
Like that's a positive start to this year.
43:51
But like the I want to see like not murdering other people and
43:55
good positions, you know, good finishes.
43:57
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think, I think they made a mistake on,
44:01
you know, not going with the 25 bike and keeping that 24.
44:05
I think we're seeing the 24 between Alder gear and and this
44:09
year struggle on that 24 bike. And they may I don't know if
44:14
they would still struggle on the on the 25 bike, but even Petco
44:17
still for the most part doing better than them on a 25 bike,
44:21
you know what I mean? So I, I think, I think that's,
44:24
you know, the, the, the competition is caught up to the
44:26
24 bike. Absolutely.
44:30
Without a doubt, yeah. You know, but let you know,
44:34
let's talk about the the, you know what Hario said about the
44:38
the two guys coming up. I mean, I, I, you know, I said
44:41
that I think they should wait because I do feel like like
44:44
everyone in Moto GP is pretty fast.
44:46
I mean, I think if we if but I'll say it like this.
44:49
If, if everybody was on the same bike, it will be hard to pick,
44:54
pick out the the cream of the crop because I think they will
44:56
be all hitting the, the, the, the dime on, you know, every
44:59
time. Yeah, but you got to think it's
45:03
not going to be 1000 CC bike, it's going to be a 50CC and
45:06
everybody pretty much is starting back over.
45:11
Yeah, but it's the rules. The rules are changing, but the
45:15
level of competition is different between between the
45:19
guys that are just going to slow up.
45:21
You know, you got you got, I don't know what 2022 guys on,
45:25
you know, 1000 CC bikes and the next year they're dropping 150CC
45:29
and they got new guys that are coming up what 100CC or 75 CCII
45:36
think the people on the bigger bike are going to be like, oh,
45:39
this is like a tricycle I. Mean it's some talent, it's a
45:46
lot of talent, it's a lot of talent.
45:47
But I do agree, like, you know, like some of those guys might
45:50
not be mature enough to be in the premier class, even though
45:53
they might have the talent, but and you have to have a it's a
45:57
different kind of mentality and strength and and that's that's
46:00
really real grown men in the premier class.
46:03
You can't just bring anybody up there.
46:05
That's what I'm saying. It's like college football.
46:07
You could be nasty. In college football.
46:09
You're getting a pro, you getting hit by a truck.
46:12
Everybody's past, everybody's past, right?
46:14
You know that level of? Fame too is different though,
46:18
like we were talking about it a little bit earlier.
46:19
Like I'm Moto GP I'm sure has a pretty decent following and
46:23
level of fame, but I guarantee those guys can walk around
46:25
without being recognized, right? Oh, absolutely.
46:28
Right. The second they join Moto GP,
46:29
that stops. Right.
46:31
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it does stop.
46:33
And and also put Once Upon a time, like the guys that were
46:37
coming up in Moto 2, they were winning championships, you know,
46:41
I'm saying. And and and so you had guys look
46:43
at look at Alex Marquez. He stayed around, he stayed in
46:45
Moto 2 till he won a championship.
46:47
Yeah, You know, saying Zarko won two championships before he he
46:51
came up, you know what I mean? So I I don't know if there's and
46:54
you know, we've seen the we've seen Ika one year and done.
46:58
We've seen Alex Oh, Sam Lowe's one year and done, Remy one year
47:04
and done. So it's just like Sam cat one
47:07
year and done. You know what I'm saying?
47:08
So it's like, I know if you get called, you got to go, but I, I
47:13
think, you know, look at you look at Pedro, I mean, even
47:19
Acosta, who's who's the closest thing to Marc Marquez is, is in
47:23
Moto GP and not struggling, but he's not like, you know, he's,
47:27
he's not Marc Marquez. He didn't do what Marquez did
47:29
coming out in, in, in in the season and stuff like that.
47:32
So I think these guys give them a couple of years to learn the
47:35
business, you know what I'm saying?
47:37
Really learn how to ride. And you know, but again, like I
47:41
said, if, if the premier class comes calling, what are you
47:44
going to do? What are your thoughts, Tyson?
47:47
I mean, it's, it's a tough question.
47:50
Ask Joe Roberts, You know, hate to keep bringing him up, but
47:53
like he's a perfect example. Like Sam Lowe's took the call,
47:58
he was in for a year and he left.
48:00
I mean, he got, he can say that he is a Moto GP rider and he got
48:03
his shot where he's like I'm sure Joe Roberts, maybe to the
48:07
day he dies, we'll be regretting not picking up that phone call
48:10
and taking the deal and getting his shot.
48:12
Like who knows? It may have turned out perfectly
48:15
and he did great and he had a great year, signed off for 3-4
48:18
more years and they've got a championship winning bike a
48:20
couple years later. Like you just never know.
48:22
Yeah, he could. He could have had a similar
48:24
career to Alice. Or.
48:27
Ralph Fernandez, like by that point, like they were talking
48:31
about dropping Raul for Joe. You know what I mean?
48:35
Here we are. And Raul, race winner, we've all
48:39
basically like turned around on him and think he's, you know,
48:42
potentially, I mean, maybe not, you know, one of the best riders
48:45
on the grid. But yeah, and he's, he's number
48:49
six right now in the standings. Yeah.
48:52
And two years ago, three years ago, he'd be 17th.
48:55
Right. But, and again, and here's a guy
48:57
that I felt like came too early because he came up with Remy
49:00
because he was 1. He was 2 and Remy was one And
49:04
and you know, and he was only a rookie when he came in when,
49:06
when he when he was on KTM and Moto 2.
49:09
So that's the other thing. He only spent one year, Moto 2
49:12
and then came in and and struggled up until essentially
49:15
end of last season. Yeah, I, I definitely think they
49:19
should spend some more time on actual development of their
49:22
riders in Moto 2. Like it seems like just kind of
49:24
a roll of the dice every year to hopefully they get somebody
49:28
versus like actually putting effort into like making them
49:32
Moto GP riders. But I am interested to see how
49:36
things happen for next year on the 8:50 because like this year
49:41
there is so many bikes on the grid and there's only four
49:45
manufacturers. At 4:00, they were at 4
49:47
manufacturers. Like, you know, Ducati's got
49:50
three bikes, three separate bikes on the grid this year.
49:54
Aprilia probably has one bike. You know, they probably have
49:57
varying degrees of bikes from factory and stuff.
49:59
But next year they're all gonna like Ducati's gonna come out
50:01
with a bike. They'll probably develop theirs
50:03
more than they develop any of the satellites.
50:05
But all those guys are gonna be riding on the same thing.
50:07
So you're gonna see who's the best instead of just who's on
50:11
the worst bike from that manufacturer.
50:13
Right, right. Yeah, they already tested it.
50:15
So I mean, I think Bulga already, we tested it this past
50:18
weekend and not this past weekend.
50:20
I saw something about that. But didn't he have some good
50:22
times? I saw something saying that he
50:24
had some. Like 2 seconds on the yeah, like
50:26
2 seconds off the 1000, the GP, thousand bikes or something like
50:31
that. So that's not bad.
50:32
No, that's not right on a 850. So it I'm look, I'm look, I
50:36
think it's going to be interesting and and fun to see.
50:40
Let's talk about the Aprilia guys.
50:41
You know, they're running away. They're running away with the
50:47
championship at the moment, Round 4.
50:51
Is it just more maintain, maintain you like, keep it
50:54
upright, finish the races? Like, don't fight with Mother
50:59
Nature, right? Slow and steady, you know that.
51:03
You know, I was watching I was watching something this weekend
51:05
and they were saying that like how best has the heart of a
51:08
champion, how he's won't risk it, you know, to try to like
51:14
fight. If he's in a good position, he's
51:16
just going to try to get the points to try to win a
51:17
championship. And I'm saying I said to myself,
51:20
like, man, he's making the the the smart decision because he he
51:24
don't want to lose. He won't he actually want to win
51:26
the championship And he has what he's doing right now.
51:28
If he continues on, especially with this weekend, with
51:31
everything we've been talking about, especially about the
51:33
weather, if he has that same mentality just to finish the
51:36
race and no matter, long as he can get on the podium, then it's
51:39
going to be another previous shutdown.
51:41
I mean, you know, they go probably shut it out again.
51:44
I don't know. I think 2:00 and 3:00 could be
51:46
an Apria guy, two or three. But for sure I think Zarko got
51:50
it though. Zarko OK, All right, all right.
51:53
Wait. What are your thoughts man on on
51:54
the Aprilia Tyson? What they got to do?
51:57
I think they got to, I think they still have to, you know,
52:00
put some, put some gas on it. I mean, they've we're four races
52:04
in. It's a 22 race season, 24 races,
52:07
something like that. Like there may be 15% into the
52:11
season, like World Super bike, a third of their season's over
52:16
already, right? You know what I mean?
52:17
So, like, there's still a lot of racing left in Moto GP.
52:21
And I feel like they still have to like, like, Ducati might not
52:25
be dead, you know what I mean? Like, they could get, you know,
52:27
maybe a good couple more races. Then all of a sudden Ducati
52:30
finds some sort of stride with some developments and they start
52:33
winning races and the championship gets pulled right
52:35
from their fingers. So if they want the
52:37
championship, I think they need to at least get to like the
52:39
halfway mark with a real good lead, just to make sure there is
52:43
no chance that there's no fight left in Ducati.
52:48
I agree. I agree.
52:49
I think, I think you, you have to, I mean, I agree both you
52:53
guys, because I think Bez has sat in Moto 2, even Moto 3 and
53:00
watch Frankie win on the Yamaha. Then he's watch Petco come win
53:08
two titles and set records. So he, they, they have the
53:12
formula. I don't think he, you know, he's
53:15
like, well, this is what we do. I mean, this is what you know,
53:18
Petco is doing. I'll get out by a second and a
53:20
half and manage the race, you know, you know that kind of
53:24
thing. And if I can't win, I'll manage
53:26
2nd place or third place. I think so, I think I so I
53:30
think, but they do have to push because you're right.
53:33
Ducati is not going to just sit back and say, ah, you got this
53:36
one guys. They they're coming.
53:37
They're going to I and they should.
53:39
And I and I hope. We know Mark is going to like
53:42
Mark will die before letting up like the dog in the fight.
53:44
Go from him. So you know what I mean?
53:46
So I I think the rest of them should fight as well, because
53:48
that's what's going to make it exciting, not necessarily like
53:51
let's wait for next year because that like like pointed at home
53:54
this year. It's not good for entertainment.
53:57
It's not good for us, the fans and you know, it's not good for
54:01
the youngsters coming up seeing seeing that.
54:03
So hopefully, you know, these matter of fact and they have
54:06
been and they're all getting better.
54:07
So hopefully it will continue and and let's see what the
54:10
second-half of the season look like.
54:12
I mean, I'm not going to be upset if Ducati won, but I
54:15
definitely would like to see Bez win a championship because I
54:19
mean, I, I, I've been on the record of saying they should,
54:21
they should have still been with Ducati.
54:23
I mean, like they, they like they should have been still with
54:25
Ducati and, and running that thing because they they helped
54:28
build it. And you know, he's not there.
54:32
Pekko's leaving, you know, Frankie's out, Bastianini's
54:37
gone. You know, these guys, Miller,
54:39
these guys that all put the input to make that bike what it
54:41
was for. Oh, hey, exactly.
54:44
You know what I mean? I think all those guys, Ducati
54:46
should have kept the butt. That's why they get the big
54:49
bucks and not me. Yeah, but you know, I was, I was
54:53
looking at something the other day, Rex.
54:54
It is going to be some American representation this weekend in
54:57
Lamont's though. OK.
54:59
Yeah, you know, the Baggers race is that this is the first
55:02
Baggers race. No, Austin.
55:05
I thought Austin was the 1st. I mean European, European.
55:09
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, European.
55:10
Yeah, yeah, and yeah. And Noni and Anoni's going to be
55:13
there. So he's back.
55:13
They doing a big push on him. Big push.
55:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big push on.
55:17
I own it. I mean, so who's, who's the,
55:19
who's the American is it I support.
55:25
American guys. I don't know who.
55:26
Yeah, I don't know. Either Wyman is it?
55:28
Is it? Is it who that is?
55:29
Yeah, Wyman, Wyman got you. Got you, Wyman.
55:33
Yeah #33. OK, cool.
55:35
That's what's up. Because I wondered about that.
55:39
You know it still, it still seems like the the the, the
55:42
European reactors are a lot faster at Austin.
55:46
Yeah, but those baggers sound mean though, man.
55:49
They, they, they, they are fast, especially in person.
55:53
See them in person is a lot better than watching it on, you
55:56
know, on TV. Yeah, and I agree.
55:59
I agree. They, they, I, I, yeah, I saw
56:01
them at I Wrote Atlanta. Yeah.
56:06
It's it's pretty wild to see. Yeah.
56:09
So that's, that's what's up, man.
56:11
I'm, I'm looking forward to it, I guess.
56:13
Let's talk about, you know, KTM woes.
56:17
KTM what woes? Woes, yeah.
56:19
Yeah, yeah. You see that.
56:21
I see something about that Take Three team might be taken away
56:24
and going towards CF Moto. Oh, that'll be wild.
56:27
Yeah, See that? Yeah, They, they, that's what's
56:30
been the big talk. Wolf, Wolves, the guy.
56:33
Not Wolf, the guy that used to be in charge the F1 team.
56:38
Sorry, who? The guy that used to be Hondas,
56:41
the Red Bulls CEO for the F1 team that he's in the pan out
56:46
this. Weekend.
56:47
Yeah, I forget. It's not Christian.
56:49
Christian something. Yeah, OK.
56:51
Yeah, yeah. I don't know what I was thinking
56:52
about David Wolf. No Wolf, Mercedes.
56:56
OK, Wolf was a Mercedes. Yeah.
56:57
It's been a big talk about that's why he's been walking in
56:59
the paradox. It's been rumors of CF Moto
57:02
taking over to take three team and him being the in charge of
57:05
it. That's what I That's the rumor
57:06
this week. Travis said last weekend or last
57:08
week. Didn't he say I predict this in
57:11
the next two weeks? CF Moto buys Tech 3.
57:14
Yeah, he did say that, but it was just like being put and they
57:17
and you know who, you know who was on the front of it, you know
57:20
who number they had on it and for the A50 CF Moto David
57:23
Alonzo. Oh.
57:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that. I mean, look, man, listen, I we,
57:31
we see what ZX Moto is doing in in in world super sport.
57:35
So any, anything is possible yeah.
57:39
I would like to see more prayers on the grid, but you know, a a
57:43
new manufacturer coming in is going to be awesome.
57:45
I I, I mean, I've seen some things mentioned in Kawasaki.
57:48
Kawasaki might come back, but. They got those government
57:53
contracts, man. They really don't.
57:56
They really don't care. You know they care about it, but
57:59
they don't care about it. I, I was, I was schooled on, you
58:03
know how much money Kawasaki has?
58:06
They don't. Their money is longer than the
58:08
rest of them, so. Kawasaki Heavy Industries.
58:14
Yeah, Heavy Industries, but there you go.
58:16
Because the Kawasaki motorcycle brand is like .01% of their
58:21
business. Yeah, yeah.
58:22
So, you know, but, but to have another brand in it's good.
58:26
It's, it's good because you know, when we're looking at the
58:28
old races and to see all these different bikes and
58:31
manufacturers in Moto GP back in the day, it, it was pretty cool
58:34
to see. I mean, I, I, you know, the,
58:37
yeah, I, I was talking about this yesterday.
58:38
I think it was just stay with the guys.
58:40
And it's just like, you know, what would you want to you, you
58:44
want to see people in the sport that love the sport, right?
58:47
That guys that, that that is sitting here trying to figure
58:50
out how they can squeeze more horsepower or they can figure
58:53
out whatever. They don't care about the money.
58:55
Because those little guys that and women that build the sport
58:58
that just do it for the love. And they're trying to build
59:00
something versus, and I call them the suits, but the money
59:04
versus the folks that have the money.
59:05
And and they're, they're, you know, they justify success by,
59:10
you know, profits. Correct.
59:14
That's how the sport gets messed up because they take the heart
59:18
and passion out of it because they only see dollar signs.
59:20
And then you got people like us that truly love the sport, that
59:23
just want to see like, you know, that that the storylines behind
59:27
it, you know what I mean? Not so much.
59:28
We're like, hey, we give you a billion dollars, you win, and
59:32
then all of a sudden we turn the profit because we sell our
59:34
street bikes or whatever, you know, our merchandise because
59:38
you're winning. And yeah, we don't need that
59:40
stuff in the sport, man. No, it's not good for this.
59:43
It's good for the sport because the girls the sport.
59:45
But we, you need the creative, the people that are hunger to
59:50
push the envelope. They need to have the room to be
59:54
to do who what they do, because that's how the sport gets grown.
59:57
The people that try to, you know, that do do do you think
1:00:00
about, you know, you hear the stories about the, you know, the
1:00:02
guy that, you know, started putting electronics on bikes to
1:00:05
get information and, and data from the bike and stuff like
1:00:08
that on all and all these big cables that were hanging off the
1:00:11
bike. And you know, and you know,
1:00:14
everybody else thought he was crazy, but now look where the
1:00:16
tech is, you know what I'm saying?
1:00:18
Everyone is there, even even there, I mean like even our own
1:00:21
street bikes, they're sent us. Hey, you want to do a tune that
1:00:24
that mail your tune box, you hook it up to your I mean, wow,
1:00:27
that's crazy. How how it all started.
1:00:32
I just have a question. How, how do you guys feel about
1:00:35
like next year with them going for the headphone ear, ear the
1:00:40
ear like F1 racers doing? How you guys feel about feel
1:00:43
about that with the headsets they're going to use next year
1:00:46
in the helmets? Go ahead, Tyson.
1:00:49
I only like it if they're just listening to bangers and we get
1:00:54
to tune into their race banger playlist and that's the only
1:00:58
time I finish. Otherwise I don't care.
1:01:04
I. Feel like thank you for the
1:01:06
support because that's how I, that's how I ride.
1:01:11
And when I'm good at the race track, I'd be like, I would love
1:01:13
to have my Cardo in my helmet right now and just listen to the
1:01:17
playlist. But you know, I'll get yelled
1:01:19
at, but I feel like the, the radio's kind of sanitized like
1:01:25
F1 to a degree. And there's, it's too much now
1:01:30
and I feel like it's going to get that way with bike racing,
1:01:33
whereas like right now, like it's just you on a bike, like
1:01:37
get information once a lab and that's it.
1:01:39
But you got to make those choices and that's it.
1:01:42
And I, I like that aspect about bike racing And that is a thing
1:01:47
that, you know, pushes me not, not necessarily pushes me to it,
1:01:51
but it's one of the pros to it for me.
1:01:53
And so I'm not a huge fan of this.
1:01:55
Yeah, so I, I, so I'm with you. Not 100% because I, I think
1:02:02
they're in certain situations. I think it'd be good, but I
1:02:05
think it'd be more like accidents or debris or something
1:02:08
like that. I think it's you.
1:02:10
You're only hearing that kind of thing.
1:02:11
Yeah, I'm with you. Let the writer figure it out.
1:02:14
I love that about tennis. I mean, now that tennis at the
1:02:16
high level, they start and let some coaching in at the high
1:02:19
level while the game is going on.
1:02:21
But generally once the game start, there's no coaching.
1:02:24
You, you got to dig yourself out of you think you put yourself in
1:02:27
that hole. You got to dig yourself.
1:02:31
It's, it's what it is. And, and I like that.
1:02:33
I, you know, I like it from a, a competitor standpoint.
1:02:36
I want to figure it out on my own.
1:02:38
I, I know there's a team that got me here and all that stuff
1:02:41
and all that, but all the things that you prepare for.
1:02:45
And again, not to sit here and say the F1 guys are sitting here
1:02:48
thinking less of themselves because somebody's in the radio,
1:02:50
tell them something. And I think it's probably a
1:02:51
NASCAR and most car racing and stuff like that.
1:02:54
I'm not saying that, but it's just what we've been used to
1:02:57
keep motorcycle racing. And I think it's one of those
1:02:59
things that it's cool because I think when when you're a rider
1:03:05
and you know, you're putting yourself on the line, you get to
1:03:10
make all those decisions. Now if someone else tells you to
1:03:12
do something on the radio and it doesn't turn out that way, like
1:03:16
now you got to be like, my bad. You know, it's it's like as a
1:03:20
rider, you, you get to make those decisions.
1:03:22
So I think I hope that it doesn't, it's just minimal if
1:03:27
they do use it and let the riders make the decisions
1:03:30
because you know, and I know as it from a team, you know, you
1:03:33
got to own a team and the rider makes a bad decision, you know,
1:03:36
a bad decision. It's costing you money, it's
1:03:38
costing you stuff and you know, all these crashes that are
1:03:41
happening and and stuff like that is costing somebody
1:03:43
something. So I get it that you might want
1:03:46
to say, you know, hey, man, back off a little bit because you
1:03:49
lost the fund a couple of times in his turn.
1:03:52
Let's not do it a third time. Hope hopefully they do it like
1:03:55
how how like how to use the headphones, kind of like how F1
1:03:58
use the DRS where it's just like know how you know the the pit
1:04:02
boards like if you're coming on the straight like before you
1:04:03
cross the line, then you can probably like hear a message or
1:04:06
something from your your team, but not doing the whole round
1:04:10
like the whole the whole circuit, just just in certain
1:04:13
areas like hey, look, you know, instead of hey change go to this
1:04:16
go to this setting on your bike. Like sometimes how they do not
1:04:19
go to this particular map instead of like sometimes I know
1:04:21
they send a text message on the dash like to change the
1:04:25
different maps but maybe it might be a lot easier with the
1:04:27
headset. And if anything, introduce it in
1:04:30
Moto 3, right, because then those guys can come up with it
1:04:34
And, and right because, you know, guy been racing since he
1:04:38
was four and he's 30 now. Now he got to go use headphones.
1:04:43
That's something he's going to have to get used to and not just
1:04:47
him, a lot of other guys. And, and they may, it may take
1:04:50
them a little bit to adjust to somebody in their, in their ear
1:04:52
because who knows, maybe they're humming a different tune when
1:04:56
they're riding and they got their own method of, of, of, of,
1:04:59
you know, enjoying themselves and getting them in that right
1:05:01
place. Yeah, I think.
1:05:06
It would be cool. I think it would be cool, but
1:05:09
it's you guys hear the adage that like with Formula One that
1:05:12
it's, it's like it used to be, you know, 30% driver, 70% car
1:05:17
and now it's 10% driver, 90% car.
1:05:20
I think kind of part of that is like the comms, like they they
1:05:25
can tell you so much information that now that I'm like,
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obviously the drivers are incredible drivers and they do
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what they do like that is obviously, but like they have
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such small of an impact now that it is just like most of the team
1:05:38
making the choices for them and they're just kind of you know,
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they're they're just taking the car around the track kind of
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deal. Obviously they're not.
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But when you don't have the comms for like bikes, like you
1:05:47
are such a bigger factor to your team.
1:05:50
And that is part of being a team player is like you as the driver
1:05:56
have to take into account, you know, the mechanics and your
1:05:59
team manager and what those decisions might affect.
1:06:02
And sometimes you have that decision to kind of be like,
1:06:04
screw it, I'm going to go balls to the wall to win this race.
1:06:08
And sometimes you win that one and sometimes you lose it.
1:06:10
But that's what we all TuneIn for.
1:06:12
Yeah, they're trying to do whatever.
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I think Liberty Media is trying to do whatever they can to for
1:06:17
the, the fan experience. And, you know, sometimes when
1:06:22
you know, like when people make decisions like that, I, I feel
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like, like even car manufacturers, I feel like they
1:06:28
should do this. They should they actually ask
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the people, the consumer, like what do you think?
1:06:33
Take a vote and poll of what do you think we could do to enhance
1:06:36
something versus you just randomly in a think box coming
1:06:40
up with an idea because it's ultimately it's about the fan
1:06:44
experience. We're the one that's actually
1:06:46
giving the the prominence to the sport.
1:06:48
So and I think like sometimes the people, the suits get away
1:06:52
from that. It's about the fans.
1:06:54
It's not so much about you creating, you know, even though
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you're creating Southern for us. It's about our experience, how
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we, how we intake it. Profits get in the way of
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passion. Exactly.
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Put that on AT shirt. Are you guys rooting for this
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week, guys, as far as your number 12 and 3 for the weekend,
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we'll start with Harry O. Bess, Zarko and Bizarco and Alex
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Alex Marquez. All right, all right.
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That's what I foresee. Nice, nice.
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All right, I thought you'd have said Zarko, but you know.
1:07:37
I did say Zarko. OK oh oh, it did all right, all
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right. Did Bezarco and Alex Oh, I got
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you got you yeah All right what about you guys?
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I'm. Going to go with Zarko for sure.
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I do like Bez. We'll do Bez as well.
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And then just because I hope he's doing better and he keeps
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it up, I'm going to go with Fabio.
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OK, Ravio. Yeah, OK.
1:08:00
This was. The gin and tone.
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The gin and tone needs to be clear.
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If not Quateraro, I wish I could say Quadrano, but that Yamaha
1:08:09
sucks. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a
1:08:13
tough one. I'm already going to see what
1:08:15
happened, man. I, I gave my my picks already
1:08:17
and I forgot what they are and I don't want to mix them up.
1:08:19
So I'll, I'll, I'll I, I think, I think it was pretty much Alex,
1:08:23
Alex out, not Alex Bez. It's all Aprilia.
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I I think Aprilia has a has a has a pretty good pretty good
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shot. Well, guys, I want thank you for
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coming on. I really appreciate it.
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My memories. Rex 45 is to be forever.
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Cool podcast. I want to thank Harry O from 2
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wheels 1 chain Tyson from up north.
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Thank you guys for coming on. Peace.
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Yes.