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The Kenny Report | 9 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Good evening, Welcome Steve Price, with you filling in for
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  Speaker 1: Chris Kenny all this week and back with you Friday
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  Speaker 1: at the normal six o'clock Eastern Standard time. Huge show tonight,
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  Speaker 1: US presidential battle. Prime Minister Albanesi belatedly addressing the horrific
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  Speaker 1: rise in anti Semitism, and an old mate and sometime
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  Speaker 1: fierce competitor who today set an Australian media record. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get stuck in. We'll take you to the United States,
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  Speaker 1: and the desperate attempts from sleepy Joe Biden to stay
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  Speaker 1: in the race as Donald Trump calls into Fox News
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  Speaker 1: with his prediction on what might happen. David Adler, Australian
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  Speaker 1: Jewish Association president, will react to the Prime Minister Albanese's
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  Speaker 1: announcement today of a special envoy on anti Semitism. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not exactly sure how that's going to work. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: what David makes of that. And Young Labor sides with
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  Speaker 1: exiled labor senator Fatima Payman spelling trouble as the Musim
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  Speaker 1: vote gathers pace. Plus a man I've worked with and
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  Speaker 1: against in the cutthroat world of talkback radio. Ray Hadley
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  Speaker 1: on twenty years of ratings dominance s, but first Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister Albanese, as I said, move today to try and
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  Speaker 1: belatedly repair the damage done by his government, state labor governments,
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  Speaker 1: weak need, woke university chancellors and compliance state and federal
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  Speaker 1: police forces. As anti Semitism, hatred of Jews exploded through
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  Speaker 1: capital city streets of our country on UNI campuses, as
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  Speaker 1: pro Palestinian rallies have been allowed to fester anti Semonist semitism. Shockingly,
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe this number is up seven hundred percent,
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  Speaker 1: seven hundred Can you believe that this envoy idea, and
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  Speaker 1: by the way, an anti Islamophobia envoy is coming as well,
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  Speaker 1: seems to me to be straight out of the Yes
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  Speaker 1: minister playbook, and the Prime Minister is increasingly looking in
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  Speaker 1: his own backyard as his seat as the Middle East
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  Speaker 1: politics splits the Australian community. Now, The finn Review Today
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  Speaker 1: reports that candidates, if they emerge, could drag Labour's primary
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  Speaker 1: vote down to thirty percent, putting ministers and Labour backbenches
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  Speaker 1: in danger of losing their seats. Now Sydney is the
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  Speaker 1: center of the action Tony Burke, Jason Claire, Chris Bowen
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  Speaker 1: under threat. Former Labour senator John Black has analyzed the
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  Speaker 1: UK election result from last week and found what might
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  Speaker 1: happen here if the group mont Muslim votes fronts up
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  Speaker 1: like the tales did in some of those seats in
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  Speaker 1: the last election. Now Black has a company called Australian
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  Speaker 1: Development Strategies and it claims a similar result here as
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  Speaker 1: in the UK, where Labour lost four seats to the
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  Speaker 1: Muslim vote, would likely see Tony Burke's seat of Watson
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  Speaker 1: and clear seat of Black Excellent go to an independent
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  Speaker 1: Muslim candidate, as would the seat of Wills, which is
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  Speaker 1: in Melbourne's northern suburbs and held by a backbench of
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  Speaker 1: Peter Khalil. Now what rich irony that would be given
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  Speaker 1: the celebratory attitude from Labor when teal candidates unseated first
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  Speaker 1: Tony Abbott, then Josh Friedenberg and others that said. I
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  Speaker 1: am firmly of the view the more we fracture the
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  Speaker 1: system dominated by the major parties Labor, Liberal and the
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  Speaker 1: National Party, the worse government we get. Who could forget
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  Speaker 1: Julia Gillard's horse training for weeks with the ruiners, people
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  Speaker 1: like Tony Windsor and Rob Oakshot, Adam Bant and Andrew Wilkie.
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  Speaker 1: That was back in twenty ten. What a shamozzle that was.
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  Speaker 1: And no one wants to go back there. And could
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  Speaker 1: you imagine a minority Albanezy government dealing with a combination
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  Speaker 1: of Teals, Greens and Muslim independence That would be truly horrific.
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  Speaker 1: The damage to our economy and national unity would be
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  Speaker 1: hard to watch. Would end up like the mess France's
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  Speaker 1: in currently, and nobody wants that. It could end up
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  Speaker 1: being the reason that Anthony Albanesi goes to an early election.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows to prevent this Muslim votes group getting organized
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  Speaker 1: in time? We will see. Now Ever, since Hamas's brutal
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  Speaker 1: attack on Israel on October seven, we've seen a sickening
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  Speaker 1: rise of anti Semitism right across the West, including right
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  Speaker 1: here in Australia. It's been disgraceful. University campus has turned
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  Speaker 1: into anti Israel encampments. Students have been afraid to go
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  Speaker 1: to school. Jewish Australians have been fearing for their safety.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't seen a strong stance from Labor on this,
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe, but today Anthony Albanezi named Jewish lawyer
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  Speaker 1: and business leader Gillian Siegel as the nation's first anti
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  Speaker 1: Semitism envoy in response to the rise of Jewish people
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  Speaker 1: being targeted. Have listened to what the PM said.
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  Speaker 2: I have spoken with members of the Jewish community who
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  Speaker 2: have not felt safe. Members of the Jewish community. His
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  Speaker 2: children are worried about wearing their school uniform in our
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  Speaker 2: capital cities. That's not acceptable.
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  Speaker 3: Anti Semitism erodes all that is good and healthy in
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  Speaker 3: a society. As such, it poses a threat not just
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  Speaker 3: to the Jewish community but to our entire nation.
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  Speaker 1: But I've got to ask, is this moved from the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister too little and too late joining me to
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  Speaker 1: discuss this is the Australian Jewish Association president, doctor David Adler,
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  Speaker 1: David too late?
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  Speaker 4: I hope not.
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  Speaker 1: I really hope not.
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  Speaker 4: It's really important that Australia gets on top of the
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  Speaker 4: rise of anti Semitism throughout history. When a society has
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  Speaker 4: a rise in anti Semitism, that is a society in decline.
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  Speaker 4: So at one level, we support this appointment. With support
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  Speaker 4: the appointment of Jillian Siegel, who's got quite an accomplished
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  Speaker 4: rack record, But we do so with a dose of
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  Speaker 4: skepticism because it requires significant changes in policy settings in
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  Speaker 4: order to be effective. The Labor government doing this well,
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  Speaker 4: like stop undermining the only Jewish state, make sure that
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  Speaker 4: law enforcement is applied properly.
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  Speaker 1: This should have been the Jewish state. Didn't Penny Wong
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  Speaker 1: drag the Israeli ambassador into her office last week and
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  Speaker 1: say if you hit has Blah, we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: support that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, what's worse, Steve is it wasn't Penny Wong. It
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  Speaker 4: was Junior Assistant Minister Tim Watts, who frankly is out
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  Speaker 4: of his depth on the subject. And it was not
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  Speaker 4: just a gross insult to the Israeli ambassador and to Israel.
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  Speaker 4: It's like diplomatic jihad. This is our government saying, look,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to aligne Australia potentially more with Hesbela.
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  Speaker 1: Than with Israel.
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  Speaker 4: So that is a perfect example of the wonky policy
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  Speaker 4: settings and it signals to those in the Australian community.
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  Speaker 1: So that isn't the problem. I mean, if Israel does
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  Speaker 1: engage Hesbelah, as it should, because very likely the amount
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  Speaker 1: of rockets that have been fired into Israeli you've had
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  Speaker 1: to Israel's had to evacuate all of those northern towns.
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  Speaker 1: So if Israel attacks hezbel Are, the radicals in Australia
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  Speaker 1: are going to be emboldened because of what the federal
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  Speaker 1: government said.
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  Speaker 4: They already are and this should have been dealt with
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  Speaker 4: on October nine when we had the rights.
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  Speaker 1: At the Opera House.
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  Speaker 4: Because by failing to take action, and then subsequently by
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  Speaker 4: failing to take action on our university campuses, and with
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  Speaker 4: these horrific demonstrations and attacks in the street, the albanesivernment
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  Speaker 4: and the state labor governments have been signaling you can
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  Speaker 4: get away with this. So what we see today is
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of kin like an arsonist who sets
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  Speaker 4: a fire and then comes back later to assist the
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  Speaker 4: firefighters in dealing with put the labor government.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go back to the envoy idea. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? I don't know the person personally. She's
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  Speaker 1: a Jewish business woman. Do you know what she's actually
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  Speaker 1: going to do?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that hasn't been announced yet. The only thing that's
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  Speaker 4: been announced. She's going to an international conference next week
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  Speaker 4: because other countries also have anti Semitism invoys and they
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  Speaker 4: will be discussing strategies, but we think that it's really
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  Speaker 4: important that a couple of key policy parameters be changed.
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  Speaker 4: The Labor government needs to wind back significantly it's aggression
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  Speaker 4: against Israel. It needs to get serious about law enforcement
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  Speaker 4: across the board. And there are a couple of tools
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  Speaker 4: that we've been pushing for. One is called the International
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  Speaker 4: Holocaust Remembrance Alliance IHR definition of anti Semitism, which would
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  Speaker 4: help institutions in dealing with the problem. And the other
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  Speaker 4: is we actually think that like most American states, the
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  Speaker 4: need to be laws in this country preventing the BDS movement,
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  Speaker 4: the boycott, divestment and sanctions. We even see local government
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  Speaker 4: councils going down this track indulging in foreign policy, which is.
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  Speaker 1: In the left councils of places like Melbourne, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and you saw also Deacon University where there was a
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  Speaker 1: blockade outside Deacon University because they were doing some research
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  Speaker 1: in departs which were used in fighter aircraft.
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  Speaker 4: And at Sydney University we've had a capitulation to the
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  Speaker 4: Encampment Group, so they now have a seat at the
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  Speaker 4: table looking at the reviews of any of the research
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  Speaker 4: done in Israeli related companies that might be involved in
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  Speaker 4: technology that one day finds its way into defense. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this is potentially his book to reer linked group getting
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  Speaker 4: access to some of the national security sensitive work. It's nuts,
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  Speaker 4: but we wish Jillian Siegel success. But we think that
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  Speaker 4: some really strong action, apart from what an envoy can do,
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  Speaker 4: needs to be undertakeble.
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  Speaker 1: You might not want to say this, but I mean
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  Speaker 1: I think I see it as some sort of a
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  Speaker 1: diversion smoke screen. I mean, we've had the issue with
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  Speaker 1: the Senator Fadam of Payman. Maybe that's a way to
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  Speaker 1: divert attention away from that. I noticed at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the statement from the Prime Ministry, City will also
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  Speaker 1: be having an envoy for anti Islamophobia. You had to
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  Speaker 1: throw that in there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, well, that in itself is a bit of
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  Speaker 4: a a weakening to the focus and almost a bit
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  Speaker 4: of an insult. There's been data that shows that there
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  Speaker 4: is no comparison. A Jewish person in Australia is at
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  Speaker 4: least thirty times more likely to be subjected to an
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  Speaker 4: aggressive hate related event than a Muslim. So to try
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  Speaker 4: to link these two and put them together is not
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  Speaker 4: the correct messaging and you're right. It's also been suggested that,
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  Speaker 4: given what's happened with Senator Fatama Payman, this is a
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  Speaker 4: really good deflection. This is an opportunity to deflect from
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  Speaker 4: the political disaster that has inflicted.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see where it see where it ends up. David Adler,
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us today. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to the US now where Joe Biden, the president is
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  Speaker 1: really digging in his heels, despite senior Democrats wanting the
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  Speaker 1: president to step aside a head of course of the
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  Speaker 1: upcoming election. Now, some Democrats and much of the media
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  Speaker 1: have now turned their back on Joe Biden after that
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  Speaker 1: disastrous debate with Donald Trump last month, sparking questions, of course,
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  Speaker 1: around his mental fitness, something we've been speaking about here
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  Speaker 1: for years now. But despite the noise, he says he's
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  Speaker 1: going nowhere. Have a listened to his latest interview on MSNBC.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to show frustrated by the elap I'm not
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  Speaker 5: talking about you guys, but by the elite and the party.
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  Speaker 1: Who they know so much more.
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  Speaker 6: But then in these days, I don't think I should run.
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  Speaker 3: Against me and now for president challenge man.
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  Speaker 1: The convention boys getting very frustrated. You heard it. They're
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  Speaker 1: a challenge from the president. Joining me now is Sky
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  Speaker 1: News contributor Kristin Tate. Kristin, thanks for joining me. Poor
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  Speaker 1: old Joe Biden, he's now selling himself to want it
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  Speaker 1: seems to me that will shake his hand in the street,
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  Speaker 1: isn't he.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Steve, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Joe Biden is becoming increasingly desperate as Democrats.
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  Speaker 7: Are turning on him. The New York.
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  Speaker 8: Times editorial board has called for him to step down.
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  Speaker 8: All the Democrats I know in my life, family friends,
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  Speaker 8: they all want him gone. And this is making the
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  Speaker 8: president increasingly desperate. He's out there in public much more
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  Speaker 8: this last week than usual to try to prove to
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  Speaker 8: everybody that he's totally with it, and it is backfiring.
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  Speaker 7: It is just one gaff after another.
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  Speaker 8: It just looks so bad, and this president, you got
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  Speaker 8: to feel bad for him at some point.
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  Speaker 7: He's just really struggling.
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  Speaker 6: To hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Christin. We've spoken about this before. I don't think there
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  Speaker 1: is one person, actually one person you can blind here.
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  Speaker 1: It's bordering on elder abuse. Here was Donald Trump's take
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  Speaker 1: on the situation.
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  Speaker 9: I'm hearing that hunter is called the shots. So this
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  Speaker 9: isn't necessarily a very positive thing for our country, But
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  Speaker 9: I think he might very well stay in, and if
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  Speaker 9: he does, nobody wants to give that up that way.
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  Speaker 9: He is going to feel badly about himself for a
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  Speaker 9: long time. It's hard to give it up that way,
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  Speaker 9: the way where they're trying to force him ount So,
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you really have to speak to his doctors.
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  Speaker 9: But obviously he's been sheltered by the fake news media.
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  Speaker 1: Kristin, the former president, mentions Hunt at Boden told me
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  Speaker 1: about the American public think of people like Jill Biden,
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  Speaker 1: Lock Hunter, Boden, the close knit family around him.
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  Speaker 8: Joe Biden is a political animal. This is a man
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  Speaker 8: who for his full life has been in politics and
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  Speaker 8: has wanted to be president. He entered the set, He
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  Speaker 8: entered US politics at the national level at a.
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  Speaker 7: Very young age. This has been his lifelong goal.
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  Speaker 8: He is so desperate for power that personally, I think
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  Speaker 8: he's the one who doesn't want to step aside. But
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  Speaker 8: his whole family versus all entrenched to Jill Biden, Hunter,
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  Speaker 8: the whole gang, his brother, They all get rich off
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  Speaker 8: the Biden family name and the second Joe Biden steps
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  Speaker 8: aside or is pushed aside, the whole gravy train comes
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  Speaker 8: to a halt, and all the money for the finger
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  Speaker 8: paintings that Hunter Biden does and the business deals that
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  Speaker 8: his brother does, and it all ends. So of course
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  Speaker 8: they all want him to stay in power. But we
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  Speaker 8: don't really know who is who is the one refusing
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  Speaker 8: to step aside, Whether it's Joe or people around him,
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  Speaker 8: or maybe a shadowy cabal of people in power. Who
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  Speaker 8: are the ones really making decisions behind the curtain. You
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  Speaker 8: want him there as the figurehead so they can continue
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  Speaker 8: running the show. We just don't know, And that's part
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  Speaker 8: of what's making voters so terrified right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Kristin, it's always democratic governess. They all turned up
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  Speaker 1: at the White House the other day, a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of them. One of the theories going around is that
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  Speaker 1: those very governors are saying, now, Joe's all good, He's
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  Speaker 1: going to keep going. We don't want him to stick aside.
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  Speaker 1: But the theory behind the saintes and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it's a conspiracy theory, is that some of those
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  Speaker 1: governors might have their own presidential ambitions fullys down the.
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  Speaker 7: Track, Yes, that's right.
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  Speaker 8: Right now, the Democrats are dealing with a very shallow
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  Speaker 8: bench of talent, at least.
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  Speaker 7: When it comes to people with name recognition. There simply aren't.
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  Speaker 8: Very many people who could sob in for Joe Biden
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  Speaker 8: and do phenomenally well because the Democrats who are really
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  Speaker 8: skilled right now in the party and up and coming,
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  Speaker 8: they're just not very well known.
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  Speaker 7: So you have many Democrat.
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  Speaker 8: Governors trying to kind of get a little piece of
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  Speaker 8: the spotlight right now. They have hopes for themselves in
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  Speaker 8: four years. As for the next election, Steve, I'm just
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  Speaker 8: not sure who they would replaced Biden with if you
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  Speaker 8: were to step aside, would it be Kamala Harris?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, she's such a dudge.
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  Speaker 8: She couldn't even make it to her own state of
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  Speaker 8: California and the Democrat primary last election cycle. Black voters,
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  Speaker 8: women voters, they just don't like her.
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  Speaker 7: She pulls horribly.
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  Speaker 8: But to be Gavin Newsom, he has a track record
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  Speaker 8: of disaster, and Gretchen Whitmer and Michigan, she's another one
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  Speaker 8: they say might replace Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 7: She's been a disaster. So I guess that leaves Michelle Obama.
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  Speaker 8: I do think she would probably do quite well, but
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  Speaker 8: I'm not sure she would want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: What about this reporting the New York Post that Patkinson's
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  Speaker 1: disease expert, a doctor, has visited the White House eight
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  Speaker 1: times now? The poor old Press secretary was wheeled at
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  Speaker 1: again today. Have a listened to how she dealt with that.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter how hard you push me, it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: matter how.
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  Speaker 7: Angry you get with me. I'm not going to confirm
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  Speaker 7: a name. It doesn't matter if it's even in the
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  Speaker 7: long I am not going to do that.
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  Speaker 10: From here. What I can share with you is that
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  Speaker 10: the President has seen a neurologist for his physical three times,
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  Speaker 10: three times.
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  Speaker 1: Christ and she was pretty angry there. She says, there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing to see here. What's your view on that?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, they're all just liars at this point.
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  Speaker 8: Everybody can see with their own eyes what's going on,
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  Speaker 8: and the Press Secretary is basically telling the American public,
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  Speaker 8: don't believe you're lying eyes believe me, but everyone.
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  Speaker 7: Knows what's going on.
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  Speaker 8: And I found it funny, Steve, that she cited privacy
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  Speaker 8: concerns right as if these people and the Biden administration
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  Speaker 8: cares so much about privacy. We had to show COVID
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  Speaker 8: vaccine records to get into gym's.
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  Speaker 7: To work out a couple of years ago. But oh
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  Speaker 7: now they care about the privacy. But of course she
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  Speaker 7: would have said to the public.
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  Speaker 8: It has been confirmed that the president doesn't have Perkinson's
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  Speaker 8: according to experts, if he didn't have it, so I
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  Speaker 8: suspect he has it or some other medical condition. It's
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  Speaker 8: quite obvious to anybody with a functioning brain who watches him.
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  Speaker 8: And at this point, the only people left supporting Joe
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  Speaker 8: Biden are the ones who would vote for any Democrat
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  Speaker 8: up there. They're just simply voting against Donald Trump. And
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  Speaker 8: that's why I have to think they will replace Biden,
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  Speaker 8: because it's only upside for the Democrats. People who still
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  Speaker 8: support Biden will support any Democrat they put in there,
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  Speaker 8: So they only increase their voting pool by switching them out,
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  Speaker 8: because then they could get into some of those independent
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  Speaker 8: voters who are really terrified by this president's mental and
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  Speaker 8: physical deterioration.
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, let's go back to him. He seems to
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  Speaker 1: be showing a bit of discipline lightly, but we'll let discipline.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Kristin lost brought through the campaign that is.
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  Speaker 8: That's a great question, Steve. He really is showing discipline here.
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  Speaker 8: He's being quite controlled with his speech. And that that
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  Speaker 8: debate we saw new Donald Trump who had clearly been
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: trained to kind of let Joe Biden destroy himself and
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: it worked quite well. I have been saying for years now,
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: if this election becomes a referendum on Biden, Trump wins.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: If it becomes a referendum on Trump, Biden wins. So
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Trump is going to do.
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: Best if he kind of just sits back, lets Joe
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: Biden get out there in public and make a complete
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: fool of himself. And that's what he's doing right now.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: But hey, with Trump, you never know what to expect.
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: So I'm not sure if he'll continue down this cap
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: but I hope so, because it does seem to be
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: quite successful for him.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Always great to catch up with you. Thanks very much,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: Very much, Steve Greed speaking with you.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Coming up after the break and old made of Mine
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: joins me as he hits a talkback radio milestone plus
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: a labor's scaremongering anti nuclear campaign. It's been debunked again.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Steve Price in for Chris Kenny All
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: this week. Now, I worked in the cutthroat business of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: talkback radio for thirty three years in Melbourne and Sydney
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: with the biggest names in radio Laws Jones, Mitchell and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of course my former adversary and more latterly colleague, Ray Hadley. Now,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Ray set a record today that I am boldly going
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to say will never be broken by anybody. Twenty years
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: as the number one radio show in Sydney between nine
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: am and Midnay, one hundred and fifty eight survey wins
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: in a row plenty against me. He is, of course,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: he's broadcast more widely than that. He's a network right
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: around Australia. Famously, an old boss of ours once told
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Ray Hadley, listen, mate, you're a good football caller, but
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to struggle presenting news, current affairs
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and talkback. That's maybe one of the most costly decisions
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: ever made in media, any media, by anybody, but raised
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: much more than a great broadcast on his morning show.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And as we head to the Paris Olympics, my thoughts
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: go back to Sydney two thousand, his call of the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Australian swim team the winning four x one hundred freestyle
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: smash you like guitars race featuring in thought was unbelievable.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: The Aussie walker disqualified in as ray put it the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: shadow of the stadium and of course his Go Girl
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Go gold medal call of Kathy Freeman. Now as good
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a caller as anyone in the world, I would suggest, Raymond,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: congratulations mate, what an effort.
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: Well, I'm very humble, Stephen, from a colleague like yourself,
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: and you were with me in the year two thousand,
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: all those years ago, and that quote you've attributed to
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: the then CEO, it was actually I think you're an
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: adequate sports.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Commentator, but you'll never make a talk back hoste.
• 22:06
  Speaker 11: That prompted my leaving to UI twenty four years ago
• 22:11
  Speaker 11: after nineteen years there and led to the adventure I've
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: been on for the last twenty four years, of course
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: at two GB and gets me to where I am today.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe twenty years since you deserted me
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: at two UI, took all of Singo's money and turned
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: up at GB and look where you are now, mate.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: Well, it was funny about Singo.
• 22:33
  Speaker 11: I'd been terminated by two YUI via fax from a
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: black called David Bacon who now runs a community radio
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: station somewhere, I think, but anyway, we won't.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: Dwell on that. Anyway.
• 22:44
  Speaker 11: They sent me threatening faxes and I'd been sacked and
• 22:47
  Speaker 11: Singing I'd been offering me a job for quite some time.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: I'd known him for quite a while.
• 22:50
  Speaker 11: He wanted me to call the football, so I ring
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: him up and said, look, that job offer is still available.
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: He said, well, you're worth a bit less today than
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: you were yesterday because you've got.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: The act, didn't you? And I said, well, yeah, you're
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: probably right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: And then I started on Christmas Eve two thousand and
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: one doing breakfast, and then Alan Jones joined in March
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: and Singo announced at the Park High I think it
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: was that Allan was joining two GB from t Ui.
• 23:19
  Speaker 11: I was at the back with Singer's mum He's late mum,
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: and Bob Rogers and underknowns to me Singer it has
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: to plan with the directors and announced after Allan had
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: gone through what he was intending to do that Ray
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: Hadley would go up against John Laws. I nearly fell
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: off my chair because I'd gone there to call the football.
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: So on the way back to the office, I said,
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: what are you doing. He said, well, you won't knock
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: that back. It's a chance to have a crack at
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: talk back. You've been doing it casually for a while,
• 23:45
  Speaker 11: you may as well get into the deep end.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: And I said, well, the football. I've come here to
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: call the football.
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: He said, now we'll get another football caller and I said, no, Well,
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: I've brought Bob Fulton, Peter flin Goss and Stephen Rache
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: with me. I can't yes ring them up and say,
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: boy's good luck with the football. I'm going to do
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: a talkback program. So he said what will you do
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: and I said, well, there's a plan here. I said,
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: I'll work seven days a week from March to October
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: during the football season.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: He said, you can't do it. I said, well, I
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: did it for twelve years. No, he killed me, but
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: I did it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: And it cemented I think the fact that people, even
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: though they may have not particularly like me all that
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: much because of my shock jock views, they said, did
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: the bugger works hard? So let's give him some brownie
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: points for that. And that's been I've worked every public
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: holiday since. I work Inzac Day, Good Friday, Easter Monday.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: The long weekend in June, a long weekend.
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: In October straight after the football Grand Final on a
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: Sunday night. And that's what we've done, and all my
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: staff do the same thing. And now everyone at the
• 24:38
  Speaker 11: station does the same thing. I said to the new
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: one as a Channel nine, I said, if you're going
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: to get fair thinking about this, you've got to tell
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: people to stop having public holidays.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: And start to work a bit harder.
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: They can't get there on a Thursday and say to everyone, now,
• 24:49
  Speaker 11: you've got to really pull a bit harder. You've got
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: to really do the right thing. I'll be back on Tuesday.
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: You've got to make sure you're there for them. And
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: that's what we do there now.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no one could have a question your work ethic.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you how much do you put
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: success down? And look, I've done talkback radio as you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: like you, how much do you put your success down
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: as being more like your audience than some of your competitors.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no Rolls Royce that Hadley drives around in,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: no show for driven cars. So you identify, and this
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: is what talkback has to do. You identify with your
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: listeners and you understand the pain they're going through.
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: On the product of the Housing Commission of State in
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: Western Sydney. Originally, my dad was a butcher. He died
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: prematurely at forty six. Mum worked in a factory, a
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: factory for Vincent's powders. Your older viewers will remember Vincent's
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: and Becks and those powders. Mum worked there. She took
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: a lot of Vincent still, I think at her time.
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: But I gave her plenty of headaches as a boy.
• 25:45
  Speaker 11: But that's where I came from. And you won't see me,
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: you know, at fancy restaurants. I'llbe at the local club,
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: the RSL, the pub having a.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Feed with my family and friends.
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: And you know, I remember running at a lady about
• 26:00
  Speaker 11: two years ago at the shopping center at either Carls
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: or wool Is, and she said, oh, you do your
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: own shopping. I said, yeah, and I eat the same
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: food that I buy here as well, and I actually
• 26:08
  Speaker 11: drive my own car here. And I mean, there's got
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: to be some sort of normalcy even in the media.
• 26:13
  Speaker 11: You can't all be in the back of limousines running
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: around when you're telling people how tough it is out there,
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: when there cost of Living's going up, Extorus is going up,
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: Petrol's going up, everything's going up. And yet you know
• 26:25
  Speaker 11: you'll but you know we're over paid for what we do.
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: There's no doubt about that. And you know I admit
• 26:30
  Speaker 11: to that. But to get me overpaid, I've had to
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: put forty two years into it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: It's not exactly come easy.
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: In the first the first job I had and I've
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: still got the contract on the wall called David Greenwood
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: sign me in nineteen eighty two at two YUI for
• 26:45
  Speaker 11: nineteen five hundred dollars. At the time, I was a
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: training auctioneer than an auctioneer. I was wearing about thirty
• 26:50
  Speaker 11: eight thousand, so I cut my wage in half to
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: get a start in radio, and it was a long
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: time before I got back to the equal level pegging
• 26:57
  Speaker 11: with that, probably not ten or twelve years.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Sydney two thousand and I know you're off to Paris
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to hearing your calls. What do
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you think is your best sports call?
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: Kathy Freeman without a doubt, I've done eight State of origins.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I'll tell you why I think it's the best.
• 27:19
  Speaker 11: The expectation she'd run second to parrec in Atlanta in
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: ninety six where I was, and Perek wasn't there.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: The French girl was out.
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: So the expectation was this young Australian woman would win
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: the four hundred. That was the expectation, and she was
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: odds on favorite to win. But you think about the
• 27:38
  Speaker 11: one hundred thousand people at the stadium, and I can
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: still remember as I was in the and as you
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: appreciate you broadcast in a box at me leave, because
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: you're in the crowd, right out there in the crowd.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: And so I'm looking and I stand as I call.
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: And the blakes beyond me start hitting me with programs
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: and make me sit down, but I ignore them.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: And then what happens.
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: Then the sea of lights, you know, the cameras they
• 28:01
  Speaker 11: go off down the back, straight past the three hundred,
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: past the two hundred, and she's moving up, she's in
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: she's in the middle lane because she's the pastest qualified.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, there's this sense of anticipation.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: I was, I get to the one fifty, she's going
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: to win this, She's going to win it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: But what she can tear a hamstring, she can fall out,
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: anything can happen, and she's against the best runners in
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: the world, and then she explodes into the austraight and
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: in that full body suit, she goes, Bam away, she goes.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: And that was the result. And most callers, whether they're
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: race callers.
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: Like I was originally, or doing the Olympics, you know
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: your best, your best dad lives, your rehearsed Adlie.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: But I didn't have anything in my mind then.
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: But I knew we were going to win one hundred
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: goal or she won, and I knew in the back
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: of my mind you know what I'd say, And then
• 28:44
  Speaker 11: I forgot it all in the straight and I think
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: I said, go go, go girl, go. This young girl
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: is a date with destiny, this wonderful young Australian.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: And she won. And so I mean, you wouldn't believe it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 11: You know, we put in for radio awards, and in
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: two thousand and one we put in for that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: I got beaten by Rex Hunt the AFL grounds. Good
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: on your Rex, the greatest call of it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: But done.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I ran second. I found out I know you're older
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: than me, but we're both pretty old. Any chance of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: retirement or you're going to keep going?
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: Well, my wife says not to retire because you know
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: I'll be too old.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And pain in the neck and I've got around now well.
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: Pain in the arts probably if I can say that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: But anyway, Chris the Kemerman thought it was funny. Anyway,
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: Sorry if it's offended, but Paul, you da't pay me
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: to come.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: On so I can say what I like.
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: At the end of the day, I'm set to go
• 29:42
  Speaker 11: until twenty twenty sixth December. I haven't any discussing with
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: Channel nine. Look, you know they may have other plans
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: for younger people to move in younger demographics and whatever
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: it is, I'll probably call some football. I started calling
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: football on the races in nineteen eighty two, then in
• 29:57
  Speaker 11: nineteen eighty seven, and I'll be quite happy to go
• 29:59
  Speaker 11: back and call on football somewhere and have a bit
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: of fun and instead of working, you know, starting it
• 30:04
  Speaker 11: up past three four o'clock in the morning, getting up
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: a bit later and having a bit of fun and
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: still broadcasting if I'm strong enough and well enough.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: To do it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Great to catch up with you, my old friend again. Congratulations,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: an extraordinary effort. It will never be beaten.
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: You're a good man. Pricing I really appreciate your support.
• 30:20
  Speaker 11: All the best mate.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Good on you, Ray Hadley, Well Labor's detainee Debarkle. Just
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to shift the mood to politics again, I could have
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: talked to Ray all night. Hasn't made headlines in recent weeks,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: but now we're here that there could be a big
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: headache over the horizon for the federal government. A leading
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: him and rights lawyer has warned that the government could
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: be facing dozens of new legal challenges from immigration detainees
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: pushing for their release under that n z y Q ruling.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Let's bring in LNP and P Andrew Wallace to find
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: out what his view is on this. The government could
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: be seeing, Andrew, evening to you, dozens of new legal challenges.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Who knows who could get out more of these immigration detainees.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: What are you hearing about this, well, Steve.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: This government just lurches from one disaster to the next,
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: and one disaster from the next, particularly in relation to immigration.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: We know that there've been hundreds of detainees that have
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: been led out under Andrew Giles. We believe he also
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: may have misled Parliament with some of the comments he's
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: made in relation to drones and blaming the Department when
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: it turns out after an FOI but he knew all
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: the while that the Department didn't give him the advice
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: that he was alleging. So look, there are all sorts
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: of concerns. Andrew Giles, What does he have to do
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: before the Prime Minister finally gets around to sacking him.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Your Staggert's still there.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: It's utterly unbelievable. You know why the Prime Minister would
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: hang on to this bloke when he's clearly dragging the
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: government down. It beggars belief. But hey, you know that's
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: a matter for a rather prime minister.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Of course, PM was out today's announced an envoy to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: work on the issue of anti Semitism. I was talking
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to the Australian Jewish Association top of the show. Neither
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of us could quite work out what the civil means.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: It seems to me Andrew was probably a diversion to
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: get people to stop talking about Fatima Payman, with a
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: story out today saying young labor support her. I mean,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and they're now talking about, oh well we should change
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the idea that we can cross the floor. I mean,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Anthony Albanez has got a huge problem on his hands here.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: They can't figure out whether there Arthur or Martha at
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: the moment, Steve, Look, I actually congratulate the government on
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: the commissioning of Jillian Siegel as the Special Envoy against
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: or to combat anti Semitism. But you know what the
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: United States did this twenty years ago, twenty years ago,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: and here we are finally coming out in twenty twenty
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: four and playing catch up the appalling state of anti
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Semitism in this country.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: You know, from.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: The couple of days after October seven last year, October
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: nine on the Sydney Harbor, on the Sydney Opera house steps,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: and the anti Semitism that has been demonstrated across the
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: board since that date has been absolutely appalling. And the
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Jewish community you've been calling out for the appointment of
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: a similar type of envoy. I've actually met with the
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: US Envoy, and I know that there's been considerable pressure
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: being brought to bear on the Attorney General over this,
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: so you know they are late to the party. There's
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: no doubt that, Look that the labor is absolutely all
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: at sea in relation to Hamas, in relation to Israel.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: One minute they are owning an anti Semitism commissioner or
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: a special envoy, but on the same breath, they are
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: absolutely all at sea. In relation to Fatima payment, the
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Prime Minister failed to discipline Fatim a payment when she
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: came out and used the river to the Sea comments
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: in a press conference weeks ago, and then when she
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: finally threatened to across the floor and in fact did
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: cross the floor, the Prime Minister gave her a suspension
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: of just one week. And then when she finally came
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: out and said that she would cross the floor and
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: keep crossing the floor, he had to act. But this
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Prime Minister has been absolutely utterly weak when it comes
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: to supporting Israel, our only democratic ally in the Middle East.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: And now those chickens are coming home to roost. We
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: see that young laborer is now supporting Fatima payment and
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: supporting her vile attacks on Israel and in fact condoning
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: and supporting the annihilation of seven and a half million Israelis.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, week, Leadership, you said it very well, Andrew Andrew Wallace.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to catch up you. Thanks so much
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: for your time tonight. Still to come Step Price filling
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: in for Chris Kenny. Labor's been accused of falling silent
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: on those issues that are again plaguing the outback town
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: of Alice Springs plus Toyota. Can you believe this? They're
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: going to act an iconic Australian car all in the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: name of climate change. Welcome back, Step Price in for
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Chris Kenny all this week. Now in some breaking news
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: in the last hour, the Prime Minister, he's had a
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: very busy day to day, has released a statement vowing
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: to end domestic violence following tragedies in recent days. Now,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's all good and well to make that pledge, he
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: has gone on to quote, so much has been done
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to rit Australia of family and domestic violence. Yet as
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the tragic events of recent days have reminded us, we
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: have a long way to go. My government is determined
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  Speaker 1: to end this violence. Together we can make this change.
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  Speaker 1: We must. Well good luck with that, I mean, he
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: refers a course to that horrifying fire in Laylor Park.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: The man who's alleged to have set that fire is still
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: in hospital and an induced coma. Let's bring in my
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  Speaker 1: panel Herald Sun columnist Susan Suzi O'Brien and two Double
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  Speaker 1: C radio host Stephen Senna Tempo. Welcome to you, both
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  Speaker 1: Susie to you first, I haven't been out to stop
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  Speaker 1: thinking about that fire in Layla Park all week since
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: it happened on Sunday. There's no adjective that can describe
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: what went on there. I applaud the Prime Minister for
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: wanting to do something, but making statements like my government
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: will end domestic violence. That's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 10: Look, I think what they need to start doing is
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  Speaker 10: listening to people on the ground, people who every day
• 37:09
  Speaker 10: deal with survivors who come to them begging for help.
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  Speaker 10: All of the answers are already out there. There's been
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  Speaker 10: so many inquiries, there's been so many Royal commissions. We
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: know what the answers are, or indeed, the people on
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  Speaker 10: the front line.
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  Speaker 7: Know what the answers are.
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  Speaker 10: They need to start listening to the people on the ground,
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  Speaker 10: telling them where the gaps are in the system and
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  Speaker 10: how it is that this situation could have unfolded to
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  Speaker 10: this point where there was someone there were no red
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: flags apparently in the system, no one really had any
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: knowledge that this was about to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Usually there are some.
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  Speaker 10: Signs somewhere, So they need to start listening to people
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  Speaker 10: who already know what can make this better?
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Susie's right, And I mean just that point that
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  Speaker 1: we had this discussion a couple of months ago. If
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  Speaker 1: you've got somebody who's making threats in a domestic violence
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  Speaker 1: situation ward their partner, or they have a record of
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: where they've been involved in assaults or domestic violence, whack
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a bloody ankle strap on the person so that you
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  Speaker 1: know where they are at least. I mean, even those
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: basic things are still not being done. No, And look,
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  Speaker 1: the reality is that we need to resource these areas more.
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  Speaker 1: There's no two ways about that. We're failing in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: But when you make a blanket statement that I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to end domestic violence, look, you can't eliminate bad people.
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  Speaker 1: They just they exist. All we can do is try
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  Speaker 1: and reduce it.
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  Speaker 12: But I would rather we had a conversation about eliminating
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  Speaker 12: violence in general. I think it's problematic that we actually
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  Speaker 12: try to divide different kinds of violence up. But again,
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  Speaker 12: we need to resource what we can, but unfortunately have
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  Speaker 12: to accept that evil people exist in this world and
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  Speaker 12: we'll do this kind of thing. I don't know how
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  Speaker 12: you eliminate that, So you know, I would have preferred
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  Speaker 12: the Prime Minister to come out and say we are
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  Speaker 12: going to do everything we can to resource every frontline
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  Speaker 12: service that deals with this kind of issue. But don't
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  Speaker 12: make a statement that you're going to eliminate domestic violence
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  Speaker 12: because you're not going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're not going to do it, Susie. The other
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: thing that is back in the news now is Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the place where the Prime Minister's
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: flown in and out a couple of times over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: We've got police being attacked in the Todd River, off
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  Speaker 1: duty police being attacked by locals. You've got the town
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  Speaker 1: again in lockdown. It was plunged into a snap curfew
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  Speaker 1: last night. A horror weekend. As I said, of violence,
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  Speaker 1: didn't we say we were going to try and sort
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  Speaker 1: this out. I mean, if you're going to make promises,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: least follow through on some of the promises that you make.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I really think Linda Bernie has got to step
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: up on this one. But that violence against the four
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: police officers, three of them female, one of them male,
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  Speaker 10: just going about their business on a Saturday night and
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: two of the women were pulled to the ground, kicked
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: and punched and robbed broad daylight. No one did anything.
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  Speaker 10: There were groups of up to eighty people congregating like
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  Speaker 10: a mob, a lot of them young people. That was
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  Speaker 10: in one point there was a group of twenty going
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  Speaker 10: on a rampage and all the locals are saying, yes,
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  Speaker 10: we need these snap curfews, but the real problem exists
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  Speaker 10: in the seventeen town camps on the edge of Alice Springs,
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  Speaker 10: and this is where kids are growing up in fourth
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  Speaker 10: world conditions, and more needs to be done inside the
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  Speaker 10: camps to make it better and safer, particularly for the kids,
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  Speaker 10: as well as making it safe on the streets of
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  Speaker 10: Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 1: Stephen, there was a huge outcry when the Howard Abbott
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Liberal coalition governments introduced that cashless debit card, which seemed
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: to be working. It was then dumped by the current
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: government and now we seem to be heading back towards
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  Speaker 1: the sort of alcohol induced violence that we were seeing before.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, if the card was working, I understand these
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: arguments about oh, you can't treat one group of Australiers
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  Speaker 1: to others, but if it works for your community and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: your community supports it, why wouldn't you leave it there? Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, you've got to look at the results.
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  Speaker 12: But I speak to Darren Clark quite a bit on
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  Speaker 12: my program, who runs the Action for Alice facebook page,
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  Speaker 12: and he made an interesting point that this flash, this
• 41:16
  Speaker 12: flash that happened over the reason weekend was because the
• 41:18
  Speaker 12: local show was in town and there was an influx
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  Speaker 12: of people.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, unfortunately this curve for you.
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  Speaker 12: All it's done is push the violence outside of the
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  Speaker 12: town center. So it's still going on, but it's not
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  Speaker 12: happening in the CBD. So people think they've solved the problem.
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  Speaker 12: He said, they just keep putting band aids over the
• 41:32
  Speaker 12: problem without treating the underlying fixes. And he said, the
• 41:35
  Speaker 12: locals know what the underlying problems are. And as Susie said,
• 41:38
  Speaker 12: they are the problems in the town camps, they're the
• 41:40
  Speaker 12: facts that and the violence is not just kids, and
• 41:43
  Speaker 12: the crime is not just kids. It is adults too.
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  Speaker 12: But these kids are out on the street because there's
• 41:47
  Speaker 12: nowhere safe for them to go. They don't have a
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  Speaker 12: safe home to go to, so they're out on the
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  Speaker 12: street causing mischief. There are alcohol problems in the surrounding areas.
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  Speaker 12: You can bound alcohol in Alice Springs. But unless you
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  Speaker 12: take it out to the town camps and stop it
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  Speaker 12: from coming in from outside the region, then you're not
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  Speaker 12: going to address all of this. But unfortunately governments, again
• 42:06
  Speaker 12: it comes back to a resourcing issue. You know, they
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: won't throw the proper resources of these issues to fix
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  Speaker 12: them at the root cause. And unfortunately we're too afraid
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  Speaker 12: of offending people rather than fixing a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of the things we ought to be
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: doing is going to these communities and trying to work
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  Speaker 1: out how we can actually convince these people that they
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: need to go to work, They need to get a job,
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  Speaker 1: We need to find work for these people, and their
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: children need to stay in school. I mean, it's just
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a revolving door. We keep going around and around and around.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Susan and Stephen, always great to catch up with you both.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for Johnny Ususio O'Brien there and
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Steven Senna TmPo, thank you both for your time. It's
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: just so frustrating. I see this thing with Alice Springs
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  Speaker 1: and I just don't understand it. I just don't understand
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: where it goes. I mean, it's just one of those
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: absolutely crazy things. And you know, you feel for the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: police officers there. I mean they are the ones that
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: are in the middle of it, and the resources are
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: just not there to fix it. Well, Victoria's power supply
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: was thrown into chaos in February. I hadn't heard of
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: that about the story until to date. When transmission towels
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: went down west of jong I. Remember that caused massive
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: outages five hundred and thirty thousand homes. But disastrous events
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: saw an opportunity to use something called untapped resources. When
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the transmission lines fell over sixteen electric vehicles in a trial.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: A trial located way away in Canberra detected the disruption
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: and within seconds pumped power back into the electricity grid.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Daily Telegraphs journalist Tim Blair joins me, now, is someone
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: making this up or did that actually happen.
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  Speaker 13: It's a beautiful thing, mister Price, isn't it. It's we
• 43:48
  Speaker 13: go all electrically over invest electricity. We become so over
• 43:51
  Speaker 13: committed to electric everything. Power as a consequence is occasionally
• 43:57
  Speaker 13: reduced to nothing, but we can get some back from
• 44:00
  Speaker 13: the stuff we put power into. It all makes perfect
• 44:02
  Speaker 13: sense if you might have had an accident in childhood.
• 44:05
  Speaker 13: It's not really the best sort of advertisement that they
• 44:08
  Speaker 13: think it is for electric power.
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  Speaker 1: Tim, I don't want to be in this world. I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: don't like that.
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  Speaker 13: Well, there is a growing movement. I think you might
• 44:18
  Speaker 13: be part of it, Steve, the internal combustion nights. We
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: are nothing more recent than twenty years old. We're sticking
• 44:25
  Speaker 13: with the old, tried and true things. And I think
• 44:28
  Speaker 13: I've got at least two cars that are over twenty,
• 44:30
  Speaker 13: perhaps three give it a little while. All my cars
• 44:33
  Speaker 13: are old enough to vote. And I think there's quite
• 44:34
  Speaker 13: a few people who should be following that example.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: We'll speaking about cars. Toyota. I can't believe they're going
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to do this. They're pulling a pin on what I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: would say is one of the most iconic vehicles ever
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: driven in Australia. It was made in Japan. It's the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: V eight turbo diesel Land Cruiser seventy. No longer going
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to be available, despite huge demands for it. If you
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: had one, if you're on the waiting list and you
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: got this car, you could flip it and probably make
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: twenty grand in five minutes. The decision was made to
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: quote community expectation regarding lowering vehicle emissions. The company's vice
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: president Sean Hanley said, Sean, mate, read your audience. Please.
• 45:13
  Speaker 13: The community expectation here is to give us keep giving
• 45:17
  Speaker 13: us really fancy and beautifully built in massively reliable VA
• 45:21
  Speaker 13: land cruises. That's the community expectation, and it's being met,
• 45:26
  Speaker 13: and they're going to damage that brand seriously, they're jumping
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: its shadows here. No one, no one is demanding stop
• 45:34
  Speaker 13: making VA land cruises. No one in the vehicle market,
• 45:37
  Speaker 13: especially the four by four market, has ever said that
• 45:39
  Speaker 13: these cars, as you point out, they're adored their creed
• 45:43
  Speaker 13: when prices has been crazy during COVID and we had
• 45:46
  Speaker 13: a great reduction in the the amount of vehicles are
• 45:49
  Speaker 13: being imported. Are knew people who were locking their land
• 45:52
  Speaker 13: Cruise of vas away because they couldn't afford to give
• 45:54
  Speaker 13: them damage, They couldn't afford insurance anymore, They had to
• 45:57
  Speaker 13: put them aside. They're more valuable than jewelry and a
• 46:00
  Speaker 13: little bit more practical.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Let's say I'm actually driving a Mercedes Garly sixty sixty
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: three s which has got a six point three leter
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: B eight in it, and it sounds absolutely magnificent. Now,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: environments on everybody's mind. We know that we believe the
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: community expects we're going to reduce our CO two footprint.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean Australia can have no impact
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: on the broader world climate. We have a big country.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: People have to tow things like caravans and horse floats.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: It's not you can't toe big heavy things with cars
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: made from electricity.
• 46:37
  Speaker 13: Tim These are awkward facts that you're speaking and you'll
• 46:42
  Speaker 13: be cut from all manner of if you're involved in them,
• 46:46
  Speaker 13: all manner of right on social justice communities. But this
• 46:51
  Speaker 13: move by Toyota, it's the ultimate nose spiding face kind
• 46:54
  Speaker 13: of deal, isn't it. They've got this huge setting thing,
• 46:56
  Speaker 13: no one's yelling them about, you know, making a statement,
• 47:00
  Speaker 13: making a statement anyway by acting their own massive, big selling,
• 47:03
  Speaker 13: wonderful device. If they want to get the second hand
• 47:06
  Speaker 13: market for these things, go through the roof overnight.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: It's going to be fantastic if they want to. If
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: they want to act something, get rid of that ugly
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Prius that is the worst car ever made.
• 47:15
  Speaker 13: Well, that's already faded, that's already on the outlist. You mean,
• 47:18
  Speaker 13: you could fit one of those in the in the
• 47:19
  Speaker 13: in the back of one of the land cruises and
• 47:21
  Speaker 13: use it as your little hobby toy car, which I
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: think was the I think was the idea all along.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Have you got a flag pole? No? No, I don't know.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I think you need to go and get a flag pole.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: WOOLLI is of backflip. They're going to now sell Australian
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: flags in their supermarkets. Why because they're a sponsor of
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the Australian Olympic team. Wasn't it wasn't kosher to be
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: selling Australian flags on Australia Day tim but they're now
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: happy to do it because they've tipped money into the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Olympic movement.
• 47:50
  Speaker 13: We're just I mean, we seven ties in large in
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: a large way with the UK many years ago in
• 47:58
  Speaker 13: a formal sense, but now we're getting bosed around by
• 48:00
  Speaker 13: Paris all the time. We're now like one of our
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: biggest supermarket change things. It's a really perfectly sound idea
• 48:07
  Speaker 13: to sell us Australian flags because they're going to be
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: waved around in Paris at the Olympics. We've also got
• 48:11
  Speaker 13: the Paris Accords with the climate and so on. But
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: the only thing we don't follow Paris on, and it's
• 48:17
  Speaker 13: regrettable is nuclear energy.
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: If we could create.
• 48:20
  Speaker 13: If we get to add that to the list, a
• 48:21
  Speaker 13: few of us might be happier about it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't understand Woolworst management's very muddle headed
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: on all of this. Tim zaways a pleasure to catch
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: up with you. I thank you. I'll talk to you
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: when I'm back filling in for Chris Kenny next time.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I do notice that Lewis Hamilton draped himself in the
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Union Jack after he won the Grand Prix at Silverston
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: at the weekend, so he's proud of his flag. I'm
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: proud of my flag, and I think Woolworth at least
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: give them some credit and say well done. The flags
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: are back. I'll be back tomorrow night. See you then,