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S1: What's your ultimate treasure? Now, if your instinct is to
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S1: answer Jesus, be careful because, well, your spending habits might
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S1: show otherwise, so might your time investments. What exactly does
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S1: it mean to make Christ our ultimate treasure? What does
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S1: that look like when it comes to our saving and spending?
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S1: We'll talk about that along with every headline you need
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S1: to know about the Middle East coming up. Our program
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S1: is called The Land and the book. We're blessed to
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S1: have a host who's spent a ton of time in
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S1: the Middle East, Doctor Charlie Dyer, and I'm John Yeager. Charlie,
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S1: for somebody who is new, listening to us today for
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S1: the very first time, give us a quick overview of
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S1: what they can expect today.
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S2: Yeah, this is a one hour trip to Israel is
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S2: what I like to think of it. As for the
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S2: first part, we're going to talk about current events, what
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S2: is happening in Israel that they need to know. And
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S2: then your interview with a fascinating guest who will help
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S2: them understand not just Israel, but the Bible and how
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S2: we can live. A third part. We have Jerry Peterman here,
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S2: Doctor Peterman, and he's going to answer questions that you
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S2: have on the Bible, on theology, on on whatever it
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S2: is that's interesting to you. Uh, he'll provide an answer.
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S2: And then finally we go to a spot in Israel.
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S2: We open the Word of God, look over the site
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S2: and share God's word and the difference it can make
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S2: in our lives today.
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S1: So it's a full program, as always, and we invite
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S1: you to stick with us throughout. Hey, imagine sailing the
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S1: Sea of Galilee, standing where David faced Goliath, floating in
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S1: the Dead Sea, or walking the stone streets of Jerusalem's
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S1: Old City. You've read about these places, but in May 2027,
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S1: our friends at Life in Messiah are inviting you to
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S1: experience them for yourself. During this study trip, you'll walk
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S1: through the places where the biblical story unfolded as familiar
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S1: passages move from black and white into vivid color.
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S2: Yeah, you get to join Bible teachers Levi Hazen and
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S2: Jared Hall, who will help connect the history, geography, archaeology
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S2: and Jewish context of the land to the Bible, along
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S2: with a licensed Israeli tour guide. This will be more
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S2: than just a journey to biblical sites. Along the way,
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S2: you'll also experience the land through life and Messiah's mission
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S2: of sharing God's heart for the Jewish people. If Israel
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S2: has been on your heart and your bucket list, consider
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S2: joining life in Messiah for this unforgettable journey together. The
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S2: trip is May 1 to 14, 2027, and registration closes
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S2: December 31st. See the land. Understand the story. Love the people.
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S2: For more information and to register, go to lifeline messiah.org
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S2: life in messiah.org.
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S1: And now a look at current events, all based in
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S1: the Middle East, all from this week with the U.S.
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S1: midterm elections now over. Does this mean the conflict with
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S1: Iran is about to heat up, or could a peaceful
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S1: resolution actually be just over the horizon?
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S2: The answer is that, at least right now, both options
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S2: are still possible in terms of renewed conflict. The US
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S2: has been quietly rebuilding its forces in the region just
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S2: over a week ago. Ten U.S. military transport planes landed
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S2: at Israeli air bases, likely helping to beef up our
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S2: air defenses, and a third aircraft carrier is heading to
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S2: the region. The U.S. continues conducting defensive strikes against Iranian targets.
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S2: Earlier this week, an Iranian missile site was struck after
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S2: it launched a surface to air missile against our forces.
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S2: President Trump has said that while the U.S. is holding
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S2: back on further action right now to prevent a great
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S2: loss of life, a decisive blow could be coming soon.
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S2: But at the same time, both the president and vice
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S2: president are voicing optimism over a possible deal. Vance said
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S2: the U.S. is feeling pretty good about the prospects of
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S2: a deal following conversations with the Iranians, and Trump said
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S2: Iran wants a settlement as soon as possible and that it, quote,
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S2: could happen. Crude oil prices began falling as the market
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S2: responded with hopes that a diplomatic settlement might be reached.
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S2: What might a settlement look like? Well, apparently Iran would
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S2: open the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for U.S. sanctions relief.
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S2: This would then be followed by comprehensive nuclear talks. One
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S2: concern in all this is how it will impact Israel.
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S2: Right now, Iran has 1700 ballistic missiles in its arsenal,
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S2: capable of reaching Israel and an additional 80,000 drones. And
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S2: President Trump's surprise announcement that the U.S. will end military
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S2: aid to Israel at the end of the year has
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S2: caused additional concern as Israelis try to process exactly what
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S2: that announcement means for their defenses. Now, that broad statement
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S2: could get modified as specific questions are raised. But it
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S2: does send a signal that the current administration might be
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S2: looking for ways to pull back from the Middle East,
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S2: including its strong support for long standing allies. Israel still
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S2: sees Iran as a strategic threat, and they're concerned that
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S2: this decision sends the wrong message at just the wrong time.
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S2: From a biblical perspective, though, we know God's promises to
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S2: Israel don't depend on the US. It's actually the other
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S2: way around. If we want God's blessing on our country,
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S2: we need to make sure we don't turn against the
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S2: Jewish people. God made a promise to Abraham and his
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S2: descendants in Genesis 123. And that promise is still in effect.
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S1: Well, Israel's elections are done and the process of forming
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S1: a new government is underway. Looking back, what are the
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S1: key takeaways from the election itself, and what do we
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S1: know so far about the possible outcome of the current process?
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S2: Well, I see three major takeaways. First, Netanyahu and the
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S2: Likud party surprised everyone by winning the largest number of
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S2: seats in the Knesset, 27 versus 21 for Eisenkot and
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S2: his party. Second, the Arab Party surprised everyone by winning
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S2: an all time high of 19 seats. That's almost double
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S2: the number from the last Knesset. And third, the biggest
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S2: loser in the election was the ultra-Orthodox party Shas. They
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S2: received 30% fewer votes than in the last election and
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S2: dropped from 11 seats to just six. The end result
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S2: is that Netanyahu's traditional coalition ended up with 53 seats,
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S2: and the Anti-netanyahu bloc ended up with 48. Both are
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S2: short of the 61 needed to form a working coalition,
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S2: and forming that coalition isn't going to be easy. One
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S2: possible way Eisenkot can gain a majority is by striking
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S2: some kind of deal with some or all of the
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S2: Arab parties. Even if they don't become part of the coalition,
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S2: they could be willing to vote for Eisenkot as prime
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S2: minister to force Netanyahu out of office, and then they
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S2: could agree to support some of Eisenkot proposals in exchange
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S2: for the new government's support for key Arab issues. But
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S2: the potential spoiler in all this is Avigdor Lieberman and
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S2: his Yisrael Beiteinu party. He said he would not join
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S2: with the Arab parties, even if they're not officially part
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S2: of the coalition. Other creative options are being suggested, but
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S2: they also have difficulties. Some have suggested Eisenkopf could woo
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S2: one of the ultra-Orthodox parties to abandon Netanyahu and join him,
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S2: but the price for that could be allowing yeshiva students
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S2: to be exempted from military service. And several of Eisenkot,
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S2: its coalition partners, had campaigned on the promise that that
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S2: would never happen unless someone can pull a rabbit out
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S2: of the hat. There really seemed to be only three
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S2: options remaining. The first is to form a minority government
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S2: with unofficial Arab support, but it would be a shaky
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S2: government that would likely only survive a short time before collapsing.
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S2: They're calling this a national emergency government, and the goal
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S2: would be to replace Netanyahu and eliminate many of his policies.
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S2: The second option is for Eisenkot, Bennett, Lapid and Lieberman
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S2: to walk back from their earlier pledges and agree to
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S2: form a government with Netanyahu. The price for this could
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S2: be having Netanyahu remain as prime minister. And right now,
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S2: that doesn't seem very likely. And the third option is
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S2: to admit defeat and call another round of elections, hoping
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S2: the results will somehow be different. It doesn't look good
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S2: for any of those options.
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S1: From Moody Radio. This is the land and the book.
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S1: We're looking at current events in this opening segment. 18
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S1: months ago, we reported on an Israeli startup working to
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S1: develop an operating system to power quantum computers. What's the
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S1: latest news on that company? Classic Technologies.
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S2: You know, along with AI, quantum computing is said to
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S2: be part of the next revolution in computing. But right now,
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S2: there are only 117 quantum computers worldwide. They're limited by
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S2: their high cost and by the complex programming required to
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S2: operate them. Classic technologies goal has been to develop a
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S2: computer interface that would be the quantum equivalent of Microsoft's
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S2: Windows operating system. Their operating software would power quantum computer applications,
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S2: just like Microsoft did for applications on PCs. Their software
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S2: platform would help data scientists, computational scientists and engineers develop
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S2: software without worrying about how to interface with the quantum
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S2: hardware underneath. The system they've developed will also allow applications
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S2: to operate across the hardware of multiple quantum computing systems.
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S2: The approach has been validated as Intel has agreed to
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S2: buy classic, reportedly for $2.2 billion. The deal is expected
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S2: to close the first half of the coming year. Classics
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S2: customer base already includes major clients in banking, automotive, manufacturing, pharmaceuticals,
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S2: and professional services. Intel is betting the software from Classic
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S2: Technologies will revolutionize quantum computing. And of course, no surprise,
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S2: it's being developed in amazing Israel.
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S1: All right. A state controlled factory operating year round to
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S1: produce everything from cloth to dyes to the manufacture of
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S1: olive oil. Sounds quite modern, but this factory was in
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S1: operation 2800 years ago in northern Israel. Tell us about
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S1: the latest archaeological discoveries at Tel Shikmona?
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S2: Well, Tel Shikmona is a small archaeological site located on
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S2: the nose of Mount Carmel, where it sticks out into
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S2: the Mediterranean. It was known to be a site specializing
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S2: in the production of purple and red dyes made from
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S2: sea snails, but the archaeologists have also discovered evidence of
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S2: other activities taking place at the site at the same time.
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S2: The building they discovered there had an olive oil press,
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S2: along with purple stained pottery and a cluster of loom
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S2: weights used in the production of textiles. It's possible the
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S2: collection and production of the dyes from snails took place
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S2: in the late summer through the autumn. The facility then
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S2: shifted to collection and production of olive oil from October
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S2: through December. That was followed then in the spring by
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S2: the shearing of sheep at the same facility. You know,
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S2: careful planning, creativity and cross trained workers kept the site
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S2: productive year round. And I think this discovery is going
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S2: to encourage archaeologists to explore other sites to see if
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S2: something similar was taking place there as well.
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S1: And that's a look at current events. Up next on
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S1: the land and the book Your Ultimate Treasure. What does
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S1: it look like to have Jesus as your ultimate treasure?
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S1: That's next. Right here. What's your ultimate treasure? If your
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S1: instinct is to answer Jesus, be careful because your spending
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S1: habits might show otherwise, so might your time investments. What
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S1: does it mean to make Christ our ultimate treasure? We're
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S1: going to tackle these and other tough questions next. This
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S1: is the land and the book. I'm John Geiger, inviting
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S1: you to think about a treasure close to the heart
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S1: of Jesus. The salvation of your friends. Hey, here's how
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S1: you and I can be just a bit more effective
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S1: in sharing Christ with a Jewish friend. We Christians claim
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S1: that we're part of a community at church, and that's great.
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S1: It's true. So how does that community then focus on
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S1: ways that we can be effective in reaching our Jewish
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S1: friends for Yeshua. Justin Krohn, what's the first thing that
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S1: comes to your mind?
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S3: Yeah. If your church is located in a community where
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S3: there's Jewish people, you really need to be thinking about
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S3: how can our community, how can our congregation be more welcoming,
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S3: be more hospitable to the Jewish people in our neighborhood?
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S3: How can we be looking to be building bridges with
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S3: that community? And that might mean how can the pastor
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S3: himself reach out to the rabbi and get coffee together,
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S3: get to know one another, and look for ways that
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S3: they can partner together so that the natural progression of
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S3: believers living out their faith and sharing their faith, and
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S3: what's most important to them in who Jesus is, that
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S3: that will happen naturally. Yeah.
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S1: Great advice from Justin Krohn and as a regular contributor
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S1: here to the land and the book. Rob West is
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S1: the host of Faith and Finance Live, heard on more
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S1: than 900 radio outlets every single day, including Moody Radio.
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S1: Rob also serves as the president of Kingdom Advisors, an
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S1: international community of financial professionals who are specialists in delivering
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S1: biblically wise financial advice. He's a great friend who has
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S1: more financial wisdom in his pinky finger than most of
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S1: us will ever gather in a lifetime. Hey, welcome back
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S1: to the land and the book, Rob.
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S4: John, great to be with you. Thanks for the invitation.
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S1: Well, you and your team have created a fabulous 21
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S1: day journey to faithful stewardship. It reads simply, it reads
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S1: biblically and it connects powerfully. It's also a gorgeous hardcover book.
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S1: I love the dedication to your children. Really kind of
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S1: sets the tone for what you're doing. Let me read
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S1: it if I can. Our prayer is that you would
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S1: live with open hands, grateful hearts, and deep joy in
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S1: serving the one who owns it all in every season.
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S1: May you find joy in our ultimate treasure, Jesus. And
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S1: of course, that's the book's title. Wow. That's a noble calling,
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S1: but also a huge task. Right, Rob?
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S4: It is. And, you know, there's nothing I want more
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S4: than for my kids to know and love and serve Jesus.
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S4: And I've found John over the years. And, you know,
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S4: my team tells me I've answered more than 30,000 questions
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S4: on money. But, you know, there's something about our financial
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S4: journey that I think has a real formation around our
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S4: spiritual journey. And I think that's why we see so
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S4: much time and attention dedicated to this topic. God doesn't
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S4: need our money. It's not what he wants from us.
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S4: I think it's what he wants for us. And it's
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S4: why I'm excited about this conversation today.
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S1: Well, in the book's foreword, Ron Blue makes the comment
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S1: materialism isn't tied to a geography, income, or culture. It's
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S1: tied to the human heart. What's the best way to
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S1: inventory our hearts then, Rob?
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S4: Well, ever since the fall, our hearts have been tempted
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S4: to look to created things, John, for what? Only God
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S4: can ultimately provide identity and significance and security and satisfaction.
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S4: We even see that at Babel in Genesis 11. Let
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S4: us make a name for ourselves. So I think one
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S4: of the best ways to take inventory, if you will,
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S4: of our hearts, is to ask, why not simply, is
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S4: it wrong to own this? As we think about our purchases,
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S4: Scripture certainly affirms that God gives us good things to enjoy.
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S4: We see that in James, in Ecclesiastes, in first Timothy,
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S4: the deeper question, I think, John, is, what am I
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S4: asking this thing to do for me? And so one
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S4: question I find especially helpful is, if no one else
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S4: could ever see this, what? I still want it. You
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S4: know what? I want this car. If it impressed no
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S4: one or this house or these clothes. And that doesn't
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S4: mean enjoying something beautiful or even expensive from time to
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S4: time is inherently wrong. But it helps expose whether we're
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S4: enjoying God's provision or asking possessions to establish our worth.
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S4: Because I think every financial decision flows from what we
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S4: believe money is for and what we believe our ultimate
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S4: treasure really is.
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S1: Rob West is president of Kingdom Advisors, an international community
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S1: of financial professionals who are specialists in delivering biblically wise
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S1: financial advice. And we're thankful for his insights today on
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S1: the land and the book. Rob. You write that stewardship
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S1: isn't just about managing money, it's about managing life. Elaborate.
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S4: Yeah. I think we make a mistake, John, when we
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S4: compartmentalize stewardship and treat it primarily as a conversation about money.
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S4: You know, as you said, our ultimate treasure, this 21
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S4: day journey we put together toward faithful stewardship was really
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S4: written intentionally to address every area of life. I mean, yes,
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S4: stewardship includes how we manage money, but I think it
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S4: also includes how we approach our work, how we think
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S4: about retirement, how we raise our kids once we give
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S4: our lives to Jesus. It's really about, okay, what have
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S4: I done with what I've been given? And God hasn't
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S4: given us part of our lives while the rest somehow
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S4: belongs to us. Everything we have ultimately is a gift
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S4: from him, entrusted to us for his purposes and for
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S4: his glory. And so that changes the way we see
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S4: ordinary life. You know, even if I don't love my job,
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S4: I can ask, how can I reflect God's character here?
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S4: I think the same is true in my marriage and
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S4: my parenting and my relationships. And so I think, you know,
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S4: ultimately we need to look for how we can honor
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S4: and glorify God with every domain that we've been entrusted.
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S1: In pages 20 and 21 of our ultimate treasure. You write,
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S1: When Jesus becomes your treasure, everything changes. So what does
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S1: it say about us if we claim Jesus as our Savior?
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S1: But he's not really our treasure, he's kind of mostly
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S1: a friend we keep in our back pocket for emergencies.
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S4: Yeah, well, I've heard that the approach to Christianity can
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S4: be described as treating salvation like eternal life insurance. And,
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S4: you know, like you keep Jesus nearby in case of
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S4: an emergency, but that misses so much of what the
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S4: gospel is about. I mean, certainly Christ saves us from
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S4: sin and judgment. Ephesians two eight and nine makes that clear.
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S4: It's not by works, it's by grace through faith. But
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S4: Paul immediately continues in verse ten by saying that we
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S4: are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works
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S4: that he prepared for us. So following Jesus isn't about
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S4: only what we've been saved from, it's also this life
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S4: we've been saved for. And I think that's why Matthew
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S4: 1344 is such an important picture. It's one verse. It's
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S4: the shortest parable. But Jesus describes this man who discovers
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S4: a treasure so valuable that everything else is joyfully reordered
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S4: around it. And it isn't that everything he owned suddenly
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S4: becomes worthless. He just simply found something infinitely more valuable.
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S1: All right, so here's the no pun intended $64,000 question.
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S1: What do we need to do Specifically to make God
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S1: our treasure.
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S4: Yeah, that really is the question, isn't it? And I
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S4: don't think there's a certain step by step formula for
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S4: making God our treasure in many ways. That's what we
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S4: talk about for these 21 days and our ultimate treasure.
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S4: I think, John, it's a lifelong process of reorienting everything
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S4: God has given us around the greater treasure of who
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S4: he is. You know, Paul says in Philippians four that
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S4: he learned to be content. That's important. Contentment didn't come naturally,
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S4: and spiritual maturity rarely happens overnight over time. Paul learned
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S4: that his circumstances didn't have to provide what Christ already supplied.
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S4: And I think that's part of what it means to
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S4: treasure God. We begin de angling, if you will, our
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S4: identity and satisfaction from things like money and career and possessions,
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S4: even relationships. Not because they're bad, but because they were
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S4: never meant to be ultimate. And that, I think, allows
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S4: us to go down this road of seeing things differently.
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S1: Seems to me also at the. At the heart of
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S1: this issue might be a. A lack of properly valuing
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S1: what Christ has done and is doing in our lives.
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S1: And so he isn't the overflow of our experience. You know,
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S1: he's a Sunday morning experience. But when we when we
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S1: truly see Christ for what he's done, when we truly
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S1: value our forgiveness, when we truly value grace and the
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S1: ongoing presence of the Holy Spirit, we've got something to
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S1: talk about. We've got something to celebrate, and we realize
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S1: we've got a treasure that's a whole lot different than
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S1: something you invest in the stock market. Isn't that true?
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S4: Oh, it's so true, John. I mean, suddenly everything is revalued.
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S4: You know, we're making a trade, but it's the best
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S4: trade of our lives. Once we understand the sufficiency of
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S4: of his grace and the depth of his love for
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S4: us and what it means that his promises are true
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S4: and trustworthy. Everything changes.
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S1: Today on the land, in the book, we're talking about
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S1: our ultimate treasure with guest Rob West. Rob knows what
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S1: he's talking about. He's the host of Faith and Finance
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S1: Live and president of Kingdom Advisors, an international community of
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S1: financial professionals. You claim that Scripture offers timeless wisdom for
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S1: modern money decisions. Share some of that biblical wisdom. What
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S1: kind of a verse comes to mind, Rob?
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S4: HMM. I think the first thing I'd say is that
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S4: we don't want to treat Scripture like a financial handbook,
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S4: where we simply pull out a verse and apply it
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S4: mechanically to a modern situation. The biblical world was very
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S4: different from ours, but we believe Scripture is inspired by
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S4: God and the wisdom it gives us about human nature
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S4: and stewardship and prudence and generosity and contentment. They're all timeless.
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S4: So Proverbs warns us about the dangers of debt and
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S4: becoming obligated to another. Now, that doesn't mean that every
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S4: modern form of debt is identical to what Proverbs describes,
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S4: but the underlying wisdom matters. Ecclesiastes 112 reminds us that
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S4: we don't know what difficulties may come, which gives us
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S4: a biblical basis for diversification and humility about the future,
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S4: even as we think about our investments. Proverbs six points
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S4: us to the ant. The ant prepares ahead of time,
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S4: and that reminds us of the wisdom of saving and planning.
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S4: Perhaps one more second Corinthians eight shows us generosity ultimately
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S4: grows out of God's grace working in our hearts. So
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S4: the goal isn't to find a Bible verse for every
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S4: financial product. It's really to allow the whole counsel of
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S4: Scripture to shape the kind of steward that we become.
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S1: On page 68 of our ultimate treasure is a quote
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S1: I cannot get past. You say simply, money isn't just math,
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S1: it's a mirror. Wow. Hey, Rob, what if we dare
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S1: to look into that mirror and are uncomfortable with what
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S1: we see? What's the the first step toward a God
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S1: honoring money makeover, if you will?
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S4: Yeah, well, our financial decisions often reveal something about what's
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S4: happening beneath the surface. And I mentioned these 30,000 questions
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S4: that I've answered from listeners over the years. And I've
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S4: become convinced, John, that money issues are hard issues. You know,
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S4: it's often the question beneath the question that someone's asking.
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S4: It's not, you know, can I afford to give this?
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S4: It's can I really trust God to provide? And, you know,
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S4: we can look at each of these questions and these issues,
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S4: and we realize that money is a mirror. And if
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S4: we don't like what we see in that mirror, I
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S4: think the first step is honestly to ask, Lord, what
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S4: is this revealing about my heart? What am I believing
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S4: about you? What am I asking money to provide that
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S4: only you can? And then certainly we need to make
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S4: practical changes. That spending plan. We've got to live within
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S4: our means. We've got to save wisely, address debt, create margin,
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S4: practice generosity. Those things matter. But lasting financial transformation, I think,
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S4: is more than rearranging numbers. It begins with a renewed
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S4: understanding of God. A.W. Tozer wrote, the man who has
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S4: God for his treasure has all things in one. And
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S4: I think that idea really captures the heart of our
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S4: ultimate treasure when God becomes our treasure. Money no longer
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S4: has to carry the weight of providing our ultimate security.
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S1: Rob West is the host of Faith and Finance Live,
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S1: heard on more than 900 radio outlets every day, including
23:52
S1: Moody Radio. He's also president of Kingdom Advisors, an international
23:56
S1: community of financial professionals who are specialists in delivering biblically
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S1: wise financial advice. He and his team have put together
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S1: Our Ultimate Treasure, a book we're looking at today in
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S1: the last chapter, Receiving Eternal Rewards. You observe, we spend
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S1: much of our lives trading our time for the future.
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S1: But have you ever stopped to ask, what future am
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S1: I actually preparing for? Wow. Hey, what are some biblical
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S1: guidelines here, Rob?
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S4: Yeah, I love that we end the devotional here because
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S4: it forces us to lift our eyes beyond the immediate future.
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S4: Most of us are constantly trading something today for something tomorrow.
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S4: We save for retirement. We sacrifice time for a career.
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S4: We plan for our children's future. And those can all
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S4: be wise things. But I think God's Word invites us
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S4: to ask an even bigger question. And that is, what
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S4: future am I ultimately preparing for? And Jesus says in
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S4: Matthew six, not to store up treasures on earth where
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S4: they're temporary, but to store them up in heaven. And
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S4: I don't think he's inviting us into some kind of
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S4: spiritual return on investment calculation. He's not a cosmic vending machine.
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S4: He's reorienting our hearts toward what is eternally valuable, because
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S4: we know from His Word where our treasure is, there
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S4: our hearts will be also. And so I think eternity, John,
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S4: should shape the way I use my money, but also
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S4: how I raise my kids, how I love my spouse,
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S4: how I serve people. And that's really where we want
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S4: to leave readers. If God truly is your ultimate treasure,
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S4: what kind of life does that produce today?
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S1: Rob 10s how does somebody listening learn more about getting
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S1: a copy of Our Ultimate Treasure?
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S4: Just head to faith fi.com/shop. That's faith fi.com/shop.
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S1: And we'll link you there as you visit our website,
25:42
S1: The Land and the book.org. Rob, thanks for these insights
25:46
S1: about our ultimate treasure.
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S4: Bless you John. Thanks.
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S1: Coming up Doctor Gerald Peterman in the studio. I can't
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S1: wait to see what you're wondering about next on the
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S1: land and the book. So glad you stuck around for
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S1: segment three here at the land and the book. I'm
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S1: John Yeager across from me, Moody Bible Institute professor Doctor
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S1: Gerald Peterman. His Bible is open. I see his, uh,
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S1: his notes are there. We'll see if his mind is there. No,
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S1: his mind is always there. You gotta worry about. I
26:24
S1: hope so. Hey, quick question before we get into our
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S1: Yeah. I mean, there's an ebb and flow. I'm sure
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S1: you can understand to a professor's life, not just a professor.
26:58
S1: He's chairman of our Bible department here. Lots going on.
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S1: of the day. This one from Sarah who takes us
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S1: to revelation chapter seven, verse three says they were sealed
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S1: on their foreheads. Why is that? Was it so? The
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S1: knowledge put in foreheads is to let the people know
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S1: what tribes they're from.
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S5: Now, Sarah is referring to the 144,000 that are sealed.
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S5: That's 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel. I
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S5: like how Daniel Green treats this passage in the Moody
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S5: Bible commentary. He says the seal indicates God's ownership and
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S5: thus protection by God. No more judgment would be coming
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S5: against the earth until their safety was assured. So rather
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S5: than being a seal which other people look at, and
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S5: then they see it and they recognize what tribe you're in, rather,
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S5: it's God's ownership and protection. Something very similar is happening
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S5: in Ezekiel. Have you read Ezekiel? Wonderful stuff back there.
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S5: This is Ezekiel nine. Now the glory of God of
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S5: Israel had gone up from the cherub on which it rested.
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S5: On the threshold of the house. He called to the
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S5: man in linen, who had the writing case at his waist.
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S5: And the Lord said to him, pass through the city,
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S5: through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of
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S5: the men who sigh and groan over all the abominations
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S5: that are being committed in it. That is, the sign
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S5: goes on. Who? The sign goes on. The godly person.
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S5: So I take it in revelation you have 144,000 of Israel.
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S5: They are godly. They know him. God owns them. God
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S1: It must be a purpose for that labeling on their
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S1: forehead though. Yeah.
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S5: I'm his. He's mine. Yeah. Uh, you see someone's face?
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S5: The face. In the ancient world, the face tells us
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S5: who the person is. And so a mark on the forehead,
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S5: that's quite obvious something very important about the person.
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S1: Johan writes, having read the gospel several times. I just
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S1: noticed that Matthew, Mark and Luke have Jesus going up
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S1: on the mountain and being transformed, but it's not in John.
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S1: Why do you think that is?
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S5: Well, John does a lot of things different from Matthew, Mark,
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S5: and Luke. Let's recall that at the end of John,
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S5: nearly at the end, in chapter 20, verses 30 to 32,
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S5: John says Jesus did many other signs in the presence
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S5: of his disciples, which are not written in this book,
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S5: but these are written so that you might know that
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S5: Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God.
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S5: You might have life in his name. So, in other words,
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S5: John has been selective. Let me rephrase it. John says,
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S5: I know a bunch of stuff I'm not telling. So Matthew, Mark,
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S5: and Luke go their own way. I take it that
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S5: John comes a little bit later, but even so, John
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S5: doesn't have certain events in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. When
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S5: you read John, you missed no theology. None at all.
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S5: So let's go to John 12. Jesus is coming into Jerusalem.
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S5: It's the last week of his life. He might say
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S5: the triumphal entry. And when Jesus comes in, he comes
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S5: in chapter 12 to say, now my soul is troubled,
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S5: and what shall I say? Save me from this hour? No.
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S5: But for this reason I have come to this hour.
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S5: And then Jesus says, father, glorify your name. And we
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S5: get a voice from heaven, and the voice from heaven says,
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S5: I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.
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S5: Why is it that Jesus is troubled here? Well, he's
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S5: coming into Jerusalem the last week of his life. He's
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S5: looking forward, you might say, to the crucifixion in John's Gospel,
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S5: Jesus being raised up on the cross is his point
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S5: of glory. Yes, that's his point of gloriousness. Why? Because
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S5: this incarnate, Loving Savior is going to death. And of course,
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S5: he'll be resurrected. He's going to death for our good,
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S5: for our benefit. And this is his glorious moment. So
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S5: John gives us that as the glorious moment recognized by
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S5: the father, rather than a different, glorious moment recognized by
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S5: the father in Matthew, Mark and Luke.
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S1: You know, as I hear you share this, it brings
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S1: me to something of a personal puzzle. And that is
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S1: you and I. When we hear the word that was glorious,
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S1: we're describing either a, you know, a weekend in Maui or,
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S1: you know, a thick steak we just ate. We don't
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S1: associate glory with suffering. And yet extraordinary, excruciating suffering was
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S1: at the very heart of this thing called glory for Jesus.
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S5: Yes. Amen to that. You're right, John. Why? Well, because
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S5: that was love. Because that was obedience. Because that was
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S5: fulfilling a divine plan at great sacrifice. And that is
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S5: another kind of glory. That's a superior kind of glory.
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S5: I don't I don't doubt that beaches can look wonderful because.
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S5: Because God made them to look wonderful. But this is
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S5: a whole nother level of glory.
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S1: This gloriousness, though, would refer to the achievement of the
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S1: plan that was laid before the foundation of the world
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S1: for our salvation.
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S5: Right.
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S1: That's what's so, so glorious.
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S5: So you read, say, Isaiah 53, and you hear about
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S5: that suffering servant. And then you look at him in
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S5: John's gospel and you see the glory just shining forth.
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S1: This is the land. And the book from Moody radio
33:57
S1: doctor Gerald Peterman across from me. I'm John Gager. We're
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S1: answering your Bible questions, which you get to us with
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S1: a quick email, by the way, to the land and
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S1: the book@moody.edu. The land and the book@moody.edu. Lisa asks, Since
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S1: Jesus is God, how could he, quote, learn obedience, as
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S1: it says in Scripture from what he suffered?
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S5: That's a great question. Lisa is referring to Hebrews five seven.
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S5: In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers
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S5: and supplications with loud cries and tears to the one
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S5: who is able to save him from death. And he
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S5: was heard because of his reverence. Although he was a son,
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S5: he learned obedience from what he suffered and being made perfect,
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S5: he became the source of eternal salvation to all who
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S5: obey him. So two things about this. That is, how
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S5: could he learn? Because we've got incarnate God, so he
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S5: can learn obedience in a new way. He can learn
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S5: obedience in the face of fatigue. He can learn obedience
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S5: in the face of rejection. He can learn obedience in
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S5: the face of strained relationships. And the strain, of course,
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S5: which he did not cause. Right? He can learn obedience
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S5: after being in fatigue at the well. so the incarnate
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S5: God can now learn obedience in a new level with
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S5: new challenges. And then the book of Hebrews also says
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S5: he was made perfect. What was the imperfection? No, no no, no,
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S5: let's not go in that direction. How is he made? Perfect.
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S5: That is this incarnate God must become our high priest.
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S5: As a matter of fact, he must become our sacrifice.
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S5: And that means he has to pass through suffering to
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S5: get there and to do that. And the writer of
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S5: Hebrews talks about him now being seated at the right
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S5: hand of glory, if you will, with the label, Israel's
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S5: divine King. Israel needs a divine king who is sinless.
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S5: David was wonderful, but Israel needs a divine king who
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S5: is sinless. And our Lord Jesus has achieved that position
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S5: through great trial and tribulation. So being made perfect, not
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S5: having imperfections taken out of him, but rather passing through
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S5: trial to now be our perfect representative and our perfect king.
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S1: You know, we get a lot of questions from listeners
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S1: who are asking about different Bible translations and this and that. And,
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S1: and I'd like to ask, what is your comfort level
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S1: with reading paraphrases like the message and others that are
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S1: out there?
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S5: Oh, I'm totally fine with reading paraphrases. All sorts of them.
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S5: Different kinds. Um, I encourage readers to have three or
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S5: 4 or 5 favorites, different translations that you're reading on
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S5: a regular basis. Switch them out, compare them one to another.
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S5: I'd say get as much different input as you can
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S5: and then pray over your conclusions.
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S1: All right. Charlie Dyer's devotional is next here on the
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S1: land and the book. He wrote more books in the
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S1: New Testament than any other author. So what were his
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S1: last words and what should we make of them? This
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S1: is the land and the book. I'm John Gager. Thank
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S1: you for hanging out with us today. In this fourth
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S1: and final segment, our host, Charlie Dyer, has been working
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S1: us through a series called The Final Words. Charlie. Uh,
37:26
S1: Paul did have an awful lot to say.
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S2: He did. And these are the final, final words from Paul.
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S1: Okay. Your devotional comes after this Holy Land experience.
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S6: Hi, I'm Paul Lange. I actually was invited to come
37:44
S6: with my wife by friends of ours who have been
37:46
S6: before with Moody, and we turned them down twice, but
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S6: they prevailed on us and we did agree to go.
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S6: And it is a life changing experience. I think the
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S6: reality of what God is doing in such a small place,
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S6: again and again and again, all throughout history, just to
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S6: save us is just the most remarkable thing. and then
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S6: to see that history unfold in front of us and
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S6: to hear about it from experts. Uh, it is just
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S6: a remarkable thing. It will change me forever.
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S1: You think about all the things that Paul said, all
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S1: the things that Paul wrote. What were his final words?
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S1: I'm really interested in hearing this, Charlie.
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S2: Well, thanks, John. Yeah. We've reached the end of this
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S2: three part series focusing on some of the most memorable
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S2: final words from the Bible. And indeed, we're going to
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S2: look at the final words from the pen of the
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S2: Apostle Paul right now. But actually choosing Paul's final words
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S2: isn't as easy as it might sound. For example, six
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S2: times in his letters, Paul used the Greek word lipos
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S2: finally to apparently draw his thoughts to a close. These
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S2: were his final words. But just for those letters, Paul
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S2: also shared some very significant final words with the elders
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S2: in Ephesus in acts 20, as he called them together
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S2: while passing by on his way to Jerusalem, knowing that
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S2: prison and possible death awaited him there. It was definitely
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S2: a solemn moment when he spoke to them for what
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S2: he thought could be the last time. But as great
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S2: as all those other final words might be, I think
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S2: the best place to find Paul's last words is in
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S2: the book of Second Timothy. This letter was written after
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S2: the close of the book of Acts, after Paul had
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S2: been set free, traveled to places he hadn't visited before,
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S2: and then been re arrested and taken back to Rome
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S2: in chains. As Paul penned this letter to Timothy. He
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S2: was waiting to hear Caesar's verdict, condemning him to death
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S2: by beheading. Paul's final words. Here are the words of
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S2: a man who knows that death is close at hand.
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S2: In such pressure cooker times of life, it's easy to
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S2: become self-focused, to view life through the narrow window of
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S2: our own experience, almost to the exclusion of everything else.
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S2: But in his final words, the Apostle Paul views life
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S2: from a totally different perspective. His focus is not so
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S2: much on himself, but on his young protégé, Timothy. Now
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S2: follow me down into the dark dungeon, now serving as
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S2: Paul's cell. It's cool. Almost chilly. The air is damp,
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S2: the sound of water dripping from the ceiling mixes with
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S2: the distant scraping of chains from the other prisoners housed here.
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S2: Paul stands off to the side, shivering from the cold
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S2: as he dictates his final words to a friend who's
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S2: risked his own arrest and imprisonment just to visit Paul
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S2: and record this final letter. Let's listen to Paul's final words.
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S2: I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and
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S2: of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and
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S2: the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom, preach
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S2: the word. Be ready in season and out of season. Reprove, rebuke,
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S2: exhort with great patience and instruction. Far from being a
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S2: bitter old man angry at life's misfortunes, Paul was a
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S2: man with a single minded goal, a goal he now
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S2: passes on to Timothy. And the thing Paul wants Timothy
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S2: to do is to preach the word. When we hear
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S2: the word preach, we think of a pastor on a
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S2: Sunday morning. But the word used by Paul has the
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S2: idea of heralding or proclaiming at a time of intense persecution.
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S2: When flying under the radar seemed like a wise course
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S2: of action, Paul called on Timothy to raise his voice
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S2: and make known God's word. He was to do so
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S2: in season and out of season. That is, Timothy was
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S2: to be willing to speak not only in times when
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S2: the words might be welcome and popular, but also when
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S2: the proclamation might be unwelcome and very unpopular. Paul reminded
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S2: Timothy of the need to speak now because a time
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S2: was coming when people would not endure sound doctrine. Instead,
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S2: they will only want to hear from teachers whose message
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S2: aligns with their own desires. Turning from the objective truth
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S2: of God's Word, they will prefer instead to listen to myths, stories,
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S2: or tales that are more fiction than fact, but that
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S2: support what people want to believe. Paul's final message to
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S2: Timothy was to proclaim truth and to endure hardship. Paul
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S2: didn't mince words about the road ahead being easy, nor
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S2: did he equate success with large crowds and rising popularity.
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S2: Timothy was facing tough times, and Paul wanted him to
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S2: be ready. This was important because Paul was nearing the
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S2: end of his lap around the track of life. The
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S2: time of my departure has come. The word for departure
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S2: was used to describe the loosening of a ship's moorings
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S2: or the breaking of camp. It was time for Paul's
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S2: transition from this life to the life to come. Time
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S2: to throw off the lines, still holding him to this earth.
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S2: But Paul wasn't staggering toward the finish line. He intended
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S2: to cross in a burst of speed with his chest
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S2: pressed out to break the tape. I have fought the
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S2: good fight. I have finished the course. I have kept
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S2: the faith. We get our English word agony from the
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S2: words Paul uses for fighting the good fight. The word
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S2: refers to a struggle or fight. In boxing parlance, Paul
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S2: went the distance, switching from the ring to the arena.
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S2: Paul then announced he had completed the course. He never
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S2: quit in the middle of life's race. Most importantly, he
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S2: kept the faith. The word for kept has the idea
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S2: of keeping watch over or guarding. Paul had been entrusted
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S2: with the message of the good news of eternal life
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S2: through faith in Christ. And Paul could say at the
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S2: end of his life that the message entrusted to him
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S2: by God was still intact. Paul guarded it as faithfully
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S2: as the Roman soldier now guarding him. Paul's final words
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S2: to Timothy are blunt, but they also demonstrate a rock
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S2: solid trust in the God who controls all of life.
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S2: How could Paul stay so calm in the face of
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S2: such intense opposition? It came in part from his trust
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S2: in God's promise for the future. In verse one, Paul
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S2: talked about Jesus appearing and his kingdom. He again talked
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S2: of Jesus as appearing in verse eight and said, that
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S2: was when the righteous judge would reward him for what
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S2: he had done here on earth. And in verse 18,
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S2: he was confident that God would bring him safely to
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S2: his heavenly kingdom. The God who had protected Paul throughout
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S2: life wasn't about to abandon him now. Of that, Paul
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S2: had great confidence. Paul's last words continued to resonate today.
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S2: Followers of Jesus around the world are facing opposition and
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S2: even death. This is not a convenient time to proclaim
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S2: God's Word. And that's why Paul's final words are so important.
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S2: What is it he wants us to do? His message
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S2: is absolutely clear Proclaim God's Word. Be ready to endure
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S2: any hardship that might come with proclaiming God's Word. And
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S2: through it all, remember that the ultimate accounting comes not
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S2: in this life, but in the life to come. As
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S2: long as God keeps us here on earth, our goal
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S2: is to fight the good fight to finish the race
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S2: and to guard the faith God has entrusted to us.
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S2: William Borden was heir to the Borden family fortune, but
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S2: he walked away from a life of ease to become
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S2: a missionary to the most needy of the world. When
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S2: someone told him he was throwing his life away, he
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S2: wrote two words in his Bible no reserves. After graduating
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S2: from college, Borden turned down several high paying jobs so
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S2: he could stay focused on his goal of reaching a
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S2: particular group of Muslims in China. He wrote two more
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S2: words in his Bible at that time no retreats. He
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S2: sailed for China, but stopped first in Egypt to learn Arabic.
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S2: While there, he contracted spinal meningitis and died within a
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S2: month when his belongings were returned home. They found a
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S2: third statement in his Bible. No regrets. Some thought William
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S2: Borden had wasted his life, but he hadn't. His commitment
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S2: and passion helped spur on a wave of missionary activity
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S2: in the early 20th century, Borden lived by the same
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S2: credo as the apostle Paul. For Paul, it was to
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S2: fight the good fight, to finish the race and to
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S2: guard the faith. For Borden, it was no reserves, no retreat,
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S2: no regrets. But what about you? It's never too late
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S2: to begin writing your obituary, your epitaph, your final words,
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S2: and Paul's final words to Timothy are a great place
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S2: to start.
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