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Rich Lowry | Editor-In-Chief of National Review Previews Sid's West Wing Meeting with V.P. JD Vance · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Rich Lowry is the editor of the National Review. He's
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  Speaker 1: on this show every week, and he's awesome. First of all, Rich,
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  Speaker 1: before we get to the political stuff, Yankees won again
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  Speaker 1: last night. Max Fried was great. They're a season-high 25
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  Speaker 1: games over.
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  Speaker 2: 500.
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  Speaker 1: They're still 3.5 behind Tampa Bay, but they've got four
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  Speaker 1: head-to-head matchups with the Rays. But either way, judges back.
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  Speaker 1: They're scoring runs. They look really good, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: convinced that even the Rays or anybody else in the
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  Speaker 1: American League are better. I'm not a Yankee fan up
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  Speaker 1: until this year. Right now, I'm a big Yankee fan.
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  Speaker 1: I really think the Yanks are the best team inside
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  Speaker 1: the American League, but you've been a lifelong Yankee fan.
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  Speaker 3: How do you feel?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if they're hitting, that's true. Even when
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  Speaker 2: Judge has been back here, there have been some games
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  Speaker 2: that have been a lot like the post-All-Star games break
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  Speaker 2: games where you're scoring one or two runs and four
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  Speaker 2: or five hits. It's extremely frustrating, and whoever you're hitting against,
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  Speaker 2: you make them look like a Cy Young winner. That
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  Speaker 2: was what happened two nights ago in Minnesota until the
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  Speaker 2: eighth inning. Now they've scored eight runs in a row.
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  Speaker 2: If they can just be almost league-average offense with their pitching,
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  Speaker 2: they're a force. I don't watch enough of the Rays.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. It seems to me they win
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  Speaker 2: an awful lot of close games. probably isn't entirely sustainable.
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  Speaker 2: But during this stretch where the Yankees have been better,
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  Speaker 2: they picked up half a game or maybe a game
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  Speaker 2: and a half. So I don't think they're catching the Rays,
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  Speaker 2: but they have a chance to go to the World Series, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Rays are amazing. Their manager, Kevin Cash, has to
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  Speaker 1: be the best in baseball. You'll be hard-pressed to find
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  Speaker 1: even a big baseball fan in New York who can
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  Speaker 1: tell you three or four players.
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  Speaker 3: On that team. And they win 90-plus games every year.
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  Speaker 3: That guy's good. Right, that guy's good, right. But they
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  Speaker 3: win 90 games every year. Every year.
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  Speaker 2: No payroll.
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  Speaker 3: No payroll. None. Zero.
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  Speaker 1: They don't win a lot of World Series, but they're
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  Speaker 1: there every year. Kevin Cash does an amazing job.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is probably the biggest problem, though, in
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  Speaker 2: terms of competitive balance in baseball, by the way. Because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you can have the Brewers win the World
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  Speaker 2: Series this year. You can have the Rays win the
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  Speaker 2: World Series this year. They're not top market clubs. The
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  Speaker 2: problem with those teams, though, is what we were just saying.
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  Speaker 2: Who do you know on those teams? Because most of
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  Speaker 2: the time, they just can't keep their homegrown talent. And
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  Speaker 2: that sucks as a fan, right? You want to keep
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  Speaker 2: your Aaron Judge generational talent for 15 years in your uniform,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of small market teams can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a problem they've got to look at.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's been that way forever.
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  Speaker 1: And the truth is the two teams you just mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Rays in the AL East and the
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers in the NL Central, they're.
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  Speaker 3: Good every year. Every year.
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  Speaker 1: And even with Milwaukee, you'll be hard-pressed to name some
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  Speaker 1: of their— they've got this one pitcher who may win
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  Speaker 1: the Cy Young— And, you know, they got the kid
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  Speaker 1: from the Marlins from years and years ago. But those
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  Speaker 1: two teams are at the top of their division every year.
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  Speaker 1: So for all the bitching about how baseball is entirely predictable,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be the Dodgers or the Yankees or
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  Speaker 1: the Braves.
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  Speaker 3: Not true. The Mets had.
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  Speaker 1: Almost a $ 400 million paywall. They can't win a game.
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  Speaker 1: And you got teams like Tampa Bay and Milwaukee that
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  Speaker 1: are in the race every year.
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  Speaker 3: Every year.
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  Speaker 2: Last thing on this. I know we're not on the fan.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing that's really out of whack is the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers are paying their seventh-place hitter, in effect, once you
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  Speaker 2: figure out all the taxes and whatnot, $ 100 million a year.
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  Speaker 2: More than, I don't know, the payroll of 12 teams total.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Something a little out of whack.
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  Speaker 3: But that's why. That's why.
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  Speaker 1: There will not be baseball next year. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: telling you that as a possibility, even a probability. I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you that as a fait accompli. There will not
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  Speaker 1: be baseball next year. There's going to be a lockout.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke to the attorney, the new Marvin Miller these days,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to take a year to fix this.
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  Speaker 1: So to your point, yes, the fact that the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: keep picking up all this talent, in some cases like Otani,
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  Speaker 1: Paying them years and years later, like Bobby Bonilla, is
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  Speaker 1: a huge issue. And because of that, there will be
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  Speaker 1: no baseball next year. So hopefully the Yankees give us
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  Speaker 1: a good one this year before it is done. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know about this meeting tomorrow. How do I know?
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  Speaker 3: You texted me. I didn't text you.
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  Speaker 1: You saw Miranda Devine's tweet last night. You texted me.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, first of all, I should be very pleased.
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  Speaker 2: It's a sign that you're a power and you're meaningful.
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  Speaker 2: He wouldn't want to have a meeting with you Otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: and my prediction is you'll come out of the meeting
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  Speaker 2: liking J.D. Vance more than you do now. That's what
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  Speaker 2: I hear from everyone who meets with him. And I
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  Speaker 2: hope he allays your concerns, and I hope you believe
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  Speaker 2: he's sincere, because I think that'd be very good for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm curious to see how it comes out. Most
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  Speaker 2: important meeting, perhaps, in our politics, is the Kennedy-Khrushchev summit
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  Speaker 2: in 1961.
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  Speaker 1: That may not be the case, but it is pretty surreal,
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  Speaker 1: and thank you for the kind words, that he.
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  Speaker 3: Reaches out, his office reaches out, to a radio host.
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  Speaker 3: A radio host. I'm not even on Fox News. I was.
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  Speaker 3: I got banned. a radio host in New York.
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  Speaker 1: And that does go to show you, and Kilmeade talked
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  Speaker 1: about this earlier, the power that New York still has
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  Speaker 1: for all of our problems, our crappy mayor, our moronic governor.
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  Speaker 1: New York's a mess, okay? If you don't admit it's
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  Speaker 1: a mess, then you're living in some dream world.
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  Speaker 3: It's a mess. But the power is still there. You
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  Speaker 3: get a guy that gets on the air every morning
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  Speaker 3: and gets the ratings that.
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  Speaker 1: I get in a blue city talking mostly conservative politics
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  Speaker 1: on an AM station. And the vice president says, I
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  Speaker 1: need to talk to you. And the president says, I
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  Speaker 1: need to talk to you. And the prime minister of
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  Speaker 1: Israel says, I need to talk to you. That says
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  Speaker 1: a lot, no?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. You know, I hear... from fans of
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  Speaker 2: yours all the time. Just a couple weeks ago, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, like 10.30 at night, and my wife's cousin
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  Speaker 2: calls and says, I got someone here who needs to
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  Speaker 2: talk to Rich. I'm at a party in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: And I go, okay, you know, put him on the line,
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  Speaker 2: and he's a listener of yours. So that happens all
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 1: Peter King gets that all the time, too. He's so annoyed.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I'm so happy these people want to meet me.
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  Speaker 1: They go, so let me ask you something, Pete, while
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  Speaker 1: I got to you. What's Sid really like?
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  Speaker 2: I love it. What you see is what you get. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how it turns out.
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  Speaker 3: No, I am too. And people say, what are you
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  Speaker 3: going to say to him? I go, wait a second.
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  Speaker 3: What am I going to say to him?
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  Speaker 1: He called the meeting. I didn't call the meeting. The
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  Speaker 1: question is, what is he going to say to me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going there on with a whole bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like what he said again yesterday. Another tennis
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  Speaker 1: unforced error, in my opinion. He doesn't have to say
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  Speaker 1: that the United States has to stop being subservient to Israel.
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  Speaker 1: There's a better way to put that. The big issue
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  Speaker 1: with him is, I'm going to say it right to
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  Speaker 1: his face, J.D., I know Tucker's your buddy. You may
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  Speaker 1: have to condemn him at some point. You may have to,
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  Speaker 1: but at least until you do, stop sounding like him.
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  Speaker 3: How about that? Totally.
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  Speaker 2: Totally agree. I missed this. He said subservient.
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  Speaker 1: The exact verbiage he used, and Heather Johnson tweeted this
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  Speaker 1: out yesterday, and everybody sent it to me, but the
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  Speaker 1: exact verbiage was, we cannot let our Middle Eastern foreign
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  Speaker 1: policy be subservient to the state of Israel.
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  Speaker 3: Now, how does that help you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, look, I agree with, obviously, our national security policy
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  Speaker 2: should be driven by the national security interests of the
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  Speaker 2: United States and no other foreign nation but you know
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  Speaker 2: it just it just sounds dog whistly right it sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Right here and it matters i remember arguing with eric
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  Speaker 1: adams all the time okay He would say perception.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, first of all, it's not perception, okay?
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  Speaker 3: But let's say it is.
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  Speaker 1: Eric, dummy, perception is more dangerous than reality. So even
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  Speaker 1: if you agree with the content of that, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: you do, I don't care. There's got to be a
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  Speaker 1: better way to say it. You can't come off like
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  Speaker 1: Tucker and expect that Jews and Trump supporters are still
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  Speaker 1: going to like you.
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  Speaker 3: You just can't. You've got to be smarter. Totally agree.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that'll be part of the conversation tomorrow, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: see how it goes. You know what really found surprising, though?
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  Speaker 1: I've got to tell you this. I'm in Dallas last week, right?
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  Speaker 3: And J.D. Spock, he did a very good job. He did.
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  Speaker 1: Trump was amazing Wednesday night. But guess who didn't speak
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  Speaker 1: last week in Dallas?
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  Speaker 3: Ted Cruz.
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting with Ted and Sean Hannity right by
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  Speaker 1: the Fox booth there as they're about to go on television.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't speak. Guess who else didn't speak?
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  Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, who was still most people's choices, including mine,
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  Speaker 1: Ina Vernikoff.
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  Speaker 3: He's my guy. I'm friends with Marco Rubio for 16 years.
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  Speaker 3: He's my choice. He's not running yet, okay? But he
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  Speaker 3: didn't speak. Also, Ron DeSantis.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: speak and the GOP said no, but that seems to
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  Speaker 1: be the way the news.
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  Speaker 3: Is delivering it.
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  Speaker 2: Ted did speak in Dallas.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he did? What am I talking about?
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  Speaker 1: He was a guy that actually talked about... He actually
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  Speaker 1: was the first one to bring up radical Islam to
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  Speaker 1: his credit.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It was a very tough speech, and CNN was crying
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  Speaker 2: about it immediately. That's how you knew it was good. Right.
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  Speaker 3: But DeSantis and Rubio didn't speak.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Rubio being Secretary of State, I can see
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  Speaker 2: how that's a little squirrely. I don't know what accounts
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  Speaker 2: for DeSantis. But, you know, all those guys are potential
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  Speaker 2: candidates that we've talked about. I don't think Rubio's running,
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  Speaker 2: but Cruz is certainly running, and I wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 2: if DeSantis runs again, too.
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  Speaker 1: So somebody that I really respect who's really, really famous
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  Speaker 1: and in the know, that's all I'm going to say,
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  Speaker 1: said to me last night, Rubio's running.
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  Speaker 3: I said, I don't know, man. I'm hearing from everybody.
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  Speaker 3: He's not going to run. He's not going to run
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  Speaker 3: against J.D. That's his buddy. And this person said, you're wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I said, okay, well.
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  Speaker 1: When you find out he's running, have him call me
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  Speaker 1: or you call me. So there are some people who
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  Speaker 1: still think Marco's running.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so either. I agree with you. But
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  Speaker 3: what are you basing that on?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's I base it on two things. One,
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  Speaker 2: he's on the inside. And if there's some sign that
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  Speaker 2: Trump is a little disaffected from J.D. more than any
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  Speaker 2: of us can know on the outside or that he
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  Speaker 2: really wants to be a competitive race and he's not
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  Speaker 2: going to tip his hand J.D. 's way, then I
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  Speaker 2: think he'd be tempted to run. But I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's any sign of that. Two, he's got a really
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  Speaker 2: good job. So this is not like, you know, Ron DeSantis,
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to have anything to do next year.
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  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio is still going to have one of the
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  Speaker 2: best jobs in the world next year. So what we'd
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  Speaker 2: be asking him to do is, eight months from now,
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  Speaker 2: seven months from now, whatever it is, quit this greatest
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  Speaker 2: job in the world, rent a car in Iowa, and
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  Speaker 2: drive from Pizza Ranch restaurant to Pizza Ranch restaurant, talking
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  Speaker 2: to groups of 50 people in the hopes that he beats,
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  Speaker 2: probably in an upset, the leader of the pack, J.D.
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  Speaker 3: Vance. And by the way, if he.
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  Speaker 1: Loses, now he's got two losses under his belt, Trump
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  Speaker 1: and J.D.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Straight line projections, it's going to be a tough year
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  Speaker 2: in 2018. Four years from now, Rubio is going to
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  Speaker 2: be still pretty young. He's going to be richer than
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  Speaker 2: he is now. It's going to matter for his family.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't see it. But I've been wrong before.
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  Speaker 3: No, I have been wrong before, too, but I agree
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  Speaker 3: with you.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think about this whole AI data
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  Speaker 1: center thing?
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  Speaker 3: We're starting to find out about all these wokesters.
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  Speaker 1: That work on the left, that are coming out and
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  Speaker 1: screaming about the dangers and guardrails and all this, and
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  Speaker 1: people bring up Elon Musk. Elon Musk is not a Republican.
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  Speaker 1: I know that he did dogey work with Trump. He's
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  Speaker 1: not a Republican. All this is coming from Barack Obama
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  Speaker 1: and the left, for the most part, for the most part.
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  Speaker 3: All this.
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  Speaker 1: you know, sounding of the sirens, Trump says, we got
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  Speaker 1: to do this.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to talk to Gordon Chang later. We got
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  Speaker 3: to beat China. We don't have a choice.
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  Speaker 1: He's aware of the dangers, just like data centers. But
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  Speaker 1: if you want to move forward in today's day and age,
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  Speaker 1: you got to do these things. What does Rich Lowry think?
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  Speaker 4: Totally.
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  Speaker 2: I think Trump is right about it. Now, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think everyone's making this up. You know, when it's Elon
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  Speaker 2: and Dario and everyone else saying exactly the same thing,
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  Speaker 2: They clearly see potential to kind of freak them out.
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  Speaker 1: But when you see people, when you see people who
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  Speaker 1: was on Dario's board, by the way, they're all friends
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  Speaker 1: of John Brennan. They're friends of this guy, David Cohen.
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  Speaker 1: Your colleague, Miranda Devine, did a great piece in the
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  Speaker 1: Post yesterday talking about a lot of the board members
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  Speaker 1: for the guy you just mentioned. And they're all dangerous
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  Speaker 1: Democrat wokesters, all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But again, it's pretty much everyone who's
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  Speaker 2: a leader of these major firms is saying this. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's true. I don't understand how you
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  Speaker 2: get from the computer realm, a virtual realm, into doing
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  Speaker 2: real things to destroy humanity, which would require launching nuclear
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  Speaker 2: weapons or creating a bioweapon. How it's going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: But could it be damaging in certain ways?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But is the upside enormous and transformative?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And to your point a second ago, if we don't
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  Speaker 2: do it, China sure as hell is going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: So if we're worried that this is going to be Skynet,
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  Speaker 2: do we want a Skynet that's Chinese or Skynet that's American?
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  Speaker 2: So the traditional way of dealing with this kind of
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  Speaker 2: thing is you don't launch any product that's unsafe. And
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  Speaker 2: if you do, your company is destroyed by lawsuits, right?
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  Speaker 2: So they should be the ones creating the standards, applying
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  Speaker 2: them to themselves, and making sure what they're doing works.
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  Speaker 2: is safe, but you can't just stop doing it. And
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  Speaker 2: even if you had an agreement with China, you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: trust them. And you're going to need AI, good AI,
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  Speaker 2: to combat the bad AI. So I don't see any
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  Speaker 2: alternative to just steaming ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we agreed a lot this morning. That's scary.
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  Speaker 1: So here we go, Rich. We do this every week.
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  Speaker 1: We did it with Biden and Trump when Bernard was
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  Speaker 1: still alive. Now we're doing it with this, the midterms
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  Speaker 1: coming out in November. You were always very steadfast that
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  Speaker 1: Biden was going to beat Trump, unless you thought the
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  Speaker 1: election was rigged.
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  Speaker 3: I guess you were right.
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  Speaker 1: And you've been very steadfast that the Republicans will lose
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  Speaker 1: the House, but you give them a chance to retain
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  Speaker 1: the Senate.
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  Speaker 3: Where are you on this Wednesday morning?
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  Speaker 2: Still lose the House.
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  Speaker 3: Come on! What's it going to take to get you
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  Speaker 3: off of this?
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  Speaker 2: Toss up in the Senate. If the election were held today,
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe they'd lose the Senate.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So not good. Every Republican strategist I talk to privately
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  Speaker 2: is totally freaked out. And I think the best thing
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  Speaker 2: the party has going for itself is, one, Democrats are
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  Speaker 2: still crazy or even crazier. And, two, the Senate map
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  Speaker 2: goes through a lot of red states. So it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be hard for Democrats to take all those. And
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  Speaker 2: if they, you know. Don't take a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: and not taking the Senate. So I think holding the
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Senate would be a victory this year.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: You want me to call you Thursday night?
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want the update. Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: Well, if I do that, then you've got to write
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: a piece in your publication.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: You've got a deal? I'll write something about it, yes.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: I'm making deals.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: At least on social media.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, good, good. But you can find a spot, I think,
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: somewhere in there, can't you, Rich?
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: I will call you.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: I'm leaving it open. I hope it goes well.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I will call you the way because I love you.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: You're a great friend and a great guest. Thank you,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Rich Lowry.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Bye, buddy.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Rich Lowry right there, the editor of the National Review,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: does a great job with me every week. I really
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: love the guy.
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