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09/21/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Sandy Call, Shannon Snodgrass, Hollis Lewis · The Dave Allen Show

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Well, it's not every day that we talk about now who my kid?
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And it is every day were talking about food on the show. But I
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always get a mention in there. But I got my good friend Sandy call
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from a Bridge Road bistro with us right now. Sandy, good morning,
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how are you. Good morning to you. Thank you so much for having
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me here today, Thank you for being here, and thank you for providing
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breakfast for us. I mean you showed up and I got word that you
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were going to provide breakfast. But man, and you learned a valuable lesson
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today in the world of radio. If you want to make instant friends show
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up with biscuits, yes, because it worked because I saw people coming down
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these apps that I haven't seen since the Carter administration. They just came like,
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we're, you know, running down here. It's like, who's that
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guy? You didn't even work here, but but you showed up with some
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with some pretty pretty delicious food for today. I appreciate you being here.
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So before I get into some things you want to talk about, I want
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to And by the way, she didn't just bribe me to come on the
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show with food. Just so you know, give us the history behind Bridge
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Road. Be sure, I mean, tell us, yeah, of course,
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tell us it's one of Charleston's premier eaters. But tell us about how
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did how'd it coming to being? Well? Thank you so much? U
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Well, just kind of a quick story. Robert Wong came here from San
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Francisco, California. He was the youngest chef ever at the Greenbrier Resort,
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and he opened this restaurant in two thousand and four with his lovely wife,
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Sherry Wong, and they've been we've been open for nineteen years. I bought
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the place about five years ago from Sherry yourself, and we've been thriving and
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doing everything we can on the hill to keep things moving. But nineteen years
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of solid history of elevated dining farm to a table bilch of food and then,
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unfortunately, after Robert passed away in twenty twelve, we brought on the
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TC Energy location. That's where I brought you breakfast this morning, these fabulous
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biscuits. So we have a breakfast and lunch service every Monday, Tuesday,
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and Friday. We do deliveries for breakfast and lunch. So we've done a
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lot of great things in the last nineteen years. Now, talk about exactly
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where you are located. You're on Bridge Road, but where exactly nine five
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Bridge Road. We're right across from the fire department. You can't miss us.
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We're right at the top of the hill Bridge Road, b stro right
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the logo right there on. All right, and let's talk about this Energy
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breakfast that you delivered to us this morning. Is this a newer thing that
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you've been doing. Actually, it's TC Energy. They've been around. It's
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the old Columbia Gas. Okay, at the Columbia Gas folks, they've changed
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names a few times, from Columbia Gas to Nysores to TC Energy. We
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run that cafeteria on the main level there, so anyone can come in have
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breakfast and lunch with us any day they want, and enjoy a beautiful view
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of the Canal River and the state capit So anybody can come in. Anybody
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can come in, Okay, not just root for employees. Anybody can come
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in and just check in at the front and come in and see us and
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support us. It's just another way we can reach out to the community and
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surf point. And what kind of different things do you offer there? Oh
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my goodness, the list is endless. You can make your own omelet.
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You can have biscuits and gravy. These wonderful biscuits I brought in this morning,
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sausage, bacon and cheese, egg biscuits, yogurt. We have a
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fabulous, fabulous salad and soup bar, probably the best in a Trystate area
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since steak and all. I believe. It's super fresh. Everything's super fresh.
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Every day we set up. You can come in. We have features
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of the day. It's just a really great deal. We've been there for
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ten years. Okay, A lot of people may not even know that.
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I know, I know, I'm no, I'm super where's that location exactly?
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It is seventeen hundred mccrawcl Avenue southeast right across basically across the room from
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the YWC. Okay, yeah, exactly where it is. All right.
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Now, let's talk about some things going on at the be Strow, including
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your private rooms. You have private rooms available. Indeed, I'll tell you
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what the pandemic kind of changed some things. How people get married and things
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like that. We've got a lot of elopements that come through now, baby
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showers, bridal showers, reunions. It's just a great room. We have
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two rooms actually one seats up to fifty one seats up to twenty. Come
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in and celebrate anything you want, birthdays to reunions to even pharmaceutical companies come
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in and do presentation, private launches and that kind of thing. And you're
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getting into the way I actually have done it for a while, of the
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entertainment thing and you get some quality entertainment. You actually brought me a list
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of people that you've got going on now. Of course, the big story
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around here, actually there's two because I'm a Marshall Gas so I gotta I
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gotta hit up Marshal in Virginia Tech. But a lot of people obviously interested
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in mountaineers and Texas Tech on the twenty third, which just happens to be
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my birthday, by the way. Understow that in there. So you're doing
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a half price wine of beer and apps the West Virginia any any game day
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on a Saturday, and I know there's one on Thursday coming up as well,
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but we're doing half off appetizers and half off glasses of wine and beer
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draft beer. That's a great gig. Come in and tailgate with us,
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Come in and enjoy the game. If you don't want to drive over to
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w or Huntington's right and Uber eats as well. We've got that all right.
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And I kind of interrupted myself here because I wanted to talk about this
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music. I look at some of the people that you've got lined up to
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come there. You get John Bird coming, Gary Hayes, a guy that
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I know very well, Lee Dean, Oh yes, Lee and I go
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way way way back. He does a swinging with Sinatra thing. It's absolutely
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fantastic. So you've got a lot of different music coming in. There's some
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people. Now give us the how that works as far as I mean,
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are they right there like where where you'd be dining. You're going to enjoy
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the music is a separate room. How does that work physically? Well?
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The great thing for those folks that haven't seen us in a couple of years,
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or have been out of state or what have you. We have a
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beautiful loungerie that I have placed in a beautiful stage, so our guests can
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get right on stage, hook up to our equipment and start playing. I've
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got surround sound all through the restaurant. It's easy peasy. My little Gary
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Hayes is of the world. And John Bird, they can just plug in
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and start playing on their stage. It's right there in front of the dining
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room and the big bay window, so they overlook the whole dining room.
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The acoustics is fantastic. It's not too loud, not too low. Everyone
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hears what's going on. I love, love, love supporting our local musicians.
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I think we need to support these folks as much as we can.
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Agree hole, and there's a lot of talent here in the Canal Valleys unt.
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I mean, we're talking about Mike Pushkin. You know, I'm bringing
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him out of retirement and bringing him and you know every now and again,
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and John Bird, we're super excited about having him. I don't know the
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last time I've heard him, you know. But we're longtime friends and I'm
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super excited that everyone has open arms. They come in and support local live
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entertainment. It's free, there's never a cover, you know. It's just
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a really nice ambiance. And you are as I love the way you phrase
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this. You're fido friendly. Yes, Yes, you can bring your fur
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babies in. We had a little guest Saturday night. It was a little
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English bulldog. His name was Una, and actually it was as she.
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She came in and had dinner. She They're just they're amazing pets. They
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can sit under the table, they can sit at the table, as long
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as they're well, well, remannered, behaved. Bring in your baby babies
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and we're fine. Yes, and we have a five years patio two if
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you want to sit outside with your pet and even children, we have a
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fenced in area so you can let your two, three, four, five
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year old run crazy on the patio and just enjoy our cuisine and our atmosphere.
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We've done some great things in the last five years. I did a
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big renovation when I bought the place from Sherry in twenty eighteen, so we've
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got some great things going on at the Bridge Road b stro And you're doing
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Prime Rib on Monday. To the Prime Ribs one of my favorite things in
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the world. Oh my goodness, it's so tasty. Chef Joshua he roasts
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that all day long and it's so so amazing. If you love Prime rib,
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you're gonna you need to come and see us on Mondays and Tuesdays.
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We've got some great Prime Rib. Now, what is this Thursday weekend Warriors
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thing? That is a great, great question. That is from Nicky Atkins.
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Nicky Atkins got together with a few musicians, Daniel Farrell and Travis McGee.
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They come in every Thursday perform great live entertainment. If you love Landy
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Wilson, if you like the Morgan Wallins, if you like eighties music,
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nineties music. They play all genres. So it's every Thursday. They start
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around six thirty. It's an amazing group that's up and coming. They've been
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playing a lot of events and things. But I like to popularize our bands
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at the bistro. I really really love doing that. I love supporting live
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music and come and see us and support live music with us, you know,
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And we're talking about Sandy call for bridge read beast. I'm gonna put
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you on the spot here, Sandy. Yeah, what's your favorite thing on
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the menu. Well, it's coming back this autumn. Meatloaf melow. Yes,
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I'm a huge little country girl. I grew up in Saint Auban's up
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up a little, a little hollow and hollow. Yeah, copy fancy say
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holler holler. Okay, I'm a hollow girl. Okay. But mashed potatoes
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with the meat loaf and green beans. So we're bringing that back for our
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autumn menu in a few weeks. That's probably by far my favorite. And
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we have a great selection of steaks, rib as, swordfish, great appetizers,
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salads. We're gluten free, vegetation. The vegetation that we get in
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from local farmers is huge for our vegetarians and our vegan friendly folks. Okay,
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so we do it all. I try to really cover every every aspect
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of a restaurant that I can. I I'm very groomed and the restaurant business.
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This is my probably my thirty six year being in the restaurant business.
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I started out years ago. I don't know if you remember River's Edge in
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Saint All. Yeah, that's my roots with the Faint Frame family. They
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taught me everything I know, and then I moved on to Outback Steakhouse and
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was with them for about ten years and opened up one hundred and fifteen across
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the United States. Really, so I did a lot of things in the
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corporate world, and I love doing what I'm doing, and I love people
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coming in and I love serving them and sharing memories with them. So everyone
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comes see the bridge road be stress before we close, I want to throw
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the study. I know a lot of restaurants and establishments, not only here
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in the valley but throughout had had trouble, you know, kind of coming
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out of COVID, and COVID was was devastating a lot of businesses, you
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know, just didn't A lot of restaurant into eateries didn't survive. You were
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one of the ones that did. How how are you doing now? And
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how are you doing for employees right now? Because a lot of folks are
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struggling to try to find people to work. Well, I'm in that both
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with them. They're not alone, They're not alone, and it's a it's
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a hindrance. I read an article there the morning, how we've lost fifty
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four hundred people in our county in one year, and that doesn't help,
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you know, the employee pool, it doesn't help the guest pool. I'll
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be honest with you. It's it's kind of like riding a roller coaster at
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nighttime. You just don't know what's coming at you, you know, and
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I kind of just try to hold on and hope for a better day the
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next day. And I'll be honest, you know, there'll be nights where
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our dining room is pretty much empty and we may have a private room or
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maybe a catering or a delivery or nothing. But you know, I just
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try to pray for the next day, for a better day, and hope
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that folks come in and support us. And there might be you know,
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an elopement coming or a wedding. We do a lot of memorial services as
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well, you know, I mean need a place to gather, yes,
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like retirement parties or as you said, you know, wedding showers or elopements
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or it's it's it's really hard why elopements has become such a big deal now,
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I think you said that's top of the show. I was like,
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why are elopements such a good thing? Well, yeah, you know,
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weddings are expensive nowadays. You gotta get the venue and the logistics and and
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all the things. You know. And with my place, my I'm newly
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wedded. My husband, he can perform ceremonies. I've got a girlfriend that
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can perform the ceremonies. I'm all inclusive. They can get their food,
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they can get married, there have their little fun dance with the entertainment.
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It's all right, definitely. Yeah. Where can people learn more about you?
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Let's go to the Bridge Road b Show dot com. Okay, and
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you can visit our Facebook or Instagram or TikTok or Google. You got it
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all. I try to. I try to keep everything covered. I'm kind
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of like a little corporation in a little and a little Sandy call mind.
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Well, Sandy, was a pleasure getting to know you and having you on
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the show today. Thank you for the delicious food. There's probably a fight's
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broken out in there right now in the conference. Are we let the feet
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from well? Okay, all right, so some of the ones that didn't
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get any you're gonna gonna take care of with just the yogurt. Thanks so
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much for having well. Thank you very much for being here. Sandy call
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again from Bridge Road bestro Go check them out. Hey, let me throw
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Charleston City Councilwoman Shannon Snydergrass from Ward eleven. Shannon Councilwoman Snydergrass, Good
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morning, How are you, Good morning day. Thanks for asking me to
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come on, Thank you for being here on the show. Now, you
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had several things on your mind this morning that you wanted to talk about.
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And I was not at the Charleston City Council meeting the other night, but
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there's a question about about overtime, some concerns that you and maybe some other
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people have about overtime as it pertains to Charleston police officers. Would you like
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to expound upon that? Sure, sure, I was one of the ones,
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along with Beth, current councilwoman from Board seven. Sure's some of your
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listeners saw the article of the News investigative reports that mister Kenny Bath did and
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that came about. Coincidentally, that came about because some retired officers and current
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officers I feel like probably had just had enough and they reached out my understanding,
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to mister Bath, and that's where some of this overtime. I think
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it's been kind of years into making. However, the last three years I
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think it's been excessive. So it was actual officers that have spoken out about
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it. The way that it, you know, this exorbitant overtime that no
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one's gonna buy, and also the way probably it's been approved of them,
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the sects of amounts. There's no real policy. So that's how it came
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about with this story with mister Bass. So that was a couple of weeks
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ago. So as a member of city council, you know, I take
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my job pretty seriously and I seem to be one of the few that always
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talk about fiscal responsibility, and when you're spending other people's money, I think
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for no one in the room to ask about this, three million, three
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million dollars in three million dollars in overtime just in twenty twenty three, justfteen
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million dollars spent in overtime just with CPD in seven years. That's exorbitant.
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And for the mayor to only her only comment was a written comment to say,
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I make no apologies. Crime rates down and this is how we do
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it. Well, anybody in law enforcement understands. If you look at the
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top over time getters, this is top brass. These aren't the patrols.
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These aren't the boots on the right. I called boots on the ground,
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you know, and you can First of all, the crime rate is not
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down, if if if it is, it's back to normal. We actually
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when she took office, it actually increased during COVID. So if it is
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down, it's back to normal. But in the solved rate she spoke about,
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we had no we had zero unsolved murder cases, and now that's not
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true. And just for the listeners to understand all the all the crime statistics
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reported by CPD is self reported. So I'm gonna say about the crime reports,
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so you can report as much or as little as you want to and
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probably extrapolate it to however you want it to read. But to use that
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as an overtime excuse, it's just to me, just a deflection. This
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is something about public funding. You, the listeners, I hope saw that
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story. If not, you can go back and read it. I think
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mister Bassett a really good job, and I went back and asked for some
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of the four yet information that he got because I like to do my homework.
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If I'm going to speak out, I want to make sure that I'm
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accurate. And you know, I've been probably the most supportive of CPD and
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since my twelve years on council, I asked for three raises, and I'm
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always the one asking for a new facility form and so I'm kind of their
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good cheerleader. And so one of the reasons I spoke out is, first
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of all, I feel like to our taxpayers, this is tax dollar money
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again. This is another scandal at city Hall about taxpayer money, and no
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one can explain this away. Let me ask you this, and pardon me
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for being ignorant about this. And you can correct me if I'm wrong.
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No, No, I just you don't know what you don't know. But
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does not counsel woman's not aggress is not city council approved the overtime funding?
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I mean, does this not mean isn't this approved by city council? Well
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and good, good point. So I think it starts with the mayor.
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It's her budget. She budgeted. I think it was over two point two
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million in overtime. Maybe I have not voted for one of the budgets since
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her administration. First of all, I wanted to raise for our police officers,
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and I felt like the overtime money should have been used to, you
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know, give these officers a raise that's competitive with the sheriff's department, so
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we quit losing. Let me, let me tell you something. We have
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not been properly staffed since the end of the Jones administration. We have not
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been fully staffed. That's our biggest problem. But that these top overtime getters
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are our top brass. Then these times the guy's boots on the ground,
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and let's talk about that. There's one individual and kind of and I like
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some of these guys, but you know, i'd be a hypocrite. If
23:03
I don't, I can't speak out on one thing and not on the other.
23:07
And this is just public funday, and you can't get anybody to swallow
23:11
this. When when some of these top three guys, you know, we're
23:15
turning in and upwards of you know, they work eight to four. I
23:21
saw the time sheet. They clock in four to eight overtime and then eight
23:23
to twelve every single day, three hundred and sixty five days a year.
23:27
One guy in the top three make anywhere from sixty to sixty five thousand,
23:33
and do I ever think it's enough? No, I'm the one that keeps
23:36
asking for more money. For these guys, however, and they're over time
23:41
though, it exceeds their annual salary by two times. So if you work,
23:48
if you do pay roll, I had my own company. If you
23:49
do payroll, a full time employee make earn two thousand and eighty hours.
23:56
Some of these guys turned in twenty five hundred hours of overtime, so another
24:02
full time, so their their overtime pay was double their regular salary. So
24:08
you're looking at instead of making sixty two to sixty five, they're now making
24:11
one hundred and seventy five a year, and hey, I don't want their
24:15
job. I wouldn't do their job. However, way it's reads. And
24:21
here's here's how it came about too. It's called tell Ustaff or tuf I
24:25
keep slaying tell them in. But it's not that round tell us staff.
24:30
Any of the guys can log on and see who's turning in overtime. So
24:33
it's pretty transparent for the other officers to see. And there was a lot
24:38
of hoop law under Chief's Hunt to don't look at Tellustaff. It's none of
24:44
your business, it's approved, it's all good. Leave it alone. Well,
24:49
as we know, Chief Hunts no longer there as chief. And what
24:55
was occurring was you just clock in four to eight, eight to twelve,
24:59
and and you had either Assistant Deputy John Garden, who was one of the
25:04
top overtime getters, would sign off or Chief Hunts or Richie Basford, and
25:10
a couple of those guys signed off on each other. I mean it just
25:14
so, I asked, of course, what's the policy? I asked the
25:18
new interim Chief Dempsey, who, by the way, for three weeks,
25:22
and what all he's been handed. I think he's done a great job.
25:25
I think he's well respected by the force. And I don't know why we
25:27
haven't named a police chief either. It's been almost a month where the only
25:32
city was out of police chief. Where the biggest city don't have a police
25:34
chief. They got an interim. But I asked Dempsey, Chief Dempsey,
25:38
I said, Sir, I said, what's the policy. Do we have
25:41
a policy on you know, what you can build for overtime? Because these
25:45
kinds are detectives and bureau chiefs, So let's follow that if they're called out
25:49
the crimes already being committed. So so my back to my crime's lower comments.
25:56
But but so I was told by one of the guys that were one
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of the top overtime getters, said, look, if I got a call,
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it lasted twenty minutes. I turned in four hours. I said,
26:07
how do you defend that. You can't do that for policy? So I
26:14
asked Chief Pimp or Chief Pimp, Yes, says there a policy. No,
26:15
ma'am, it's just kind of understood. But no, that wouldn't And
26:19
I know for a fact, you know, you know, I think is
26:23
it sisty Deputy chief. I know he didn't sign off on a lot of
26:27
the overtime, so and I know he's making some changes moving forward, but
26:33
you can ignore fifteen million dollars in overtime sit on city council and let that
26:40
go by and just rubber stamp everything else. I personally cannot do that.
26:45
Let me ask him. Always been very vocal about the fiscal responsibility of public
26:49
funding, and Kensewilman Shanna Sadergrass is with us here on five eighty Live.
26:52
Let me let me ask you this question, Councilman. As it pertains,
26:56
you mentioned that the police Department of Charleston has been funded or I'm starting not
27:00
underfunded, understaffed since since the Jones administration. Uh. And that may and
27:07
that may be true, But I think that all of our police departments in
27:10
the area. I mean, I've had the sheriff on here. I've talked
27:12
to the mayors on every Monday, I do a segment called Mayor Monday with
27:15
a different mayor, and they're all basically begging for police officers. So,
27:19
I mean, I don't know, but that's that different. Go ahead,
27:22
Well, well, they struggle, but but like I stay in touch with
27:26
the Sheriff's department because that's our biggest competitor. If our guys leave, they
27:29
usually go the shaff departments. Some have left to state police because of the
27:33
pay and you know, the big deal with the Sheriff's apartment. They get
27:36
a take home car, their benefits, their pension plan is better, and
27:40
I want to go back and talk about that too, what that's doing to
27:41
our overall public funding with pension plans. But we've been fifteen to twenty three
27:49
officers short. That's a lot. When you talk to South Charleston talked to
27:53
Chief ron Hart, which I have, and some of the other ones,
27:56
and those are smaller cities, but they might be down one or two,
28:00
but they're knocked down. And in the Sheriff's department, they filled theirs as
28:03
quick as they're open. So and I think the two, because they're a
28:08
little more competitive, they actually take less calls than the CPD. You know,
28:15
we're the biggest city, so we do get a lot of calls.
28:18
These guys worked extremely hard. And again I'm not against the overtime. You
28:22
know, if it's if that's what it is, and maybe it all is
28:26
all. I ask again, we have studdle on Sonickers internal auditors. Why
28:32
would you not ask are do a forensic God it if all these officers are
28:37
saying, hey, this isn't right, and anybody in the right mind knows
28:42
that you cannot work that much overtime in a full year without holiday vacation.
28:51
And I think some of those guys got on people's facebooks. They were out
28:53
of town and they were still building for overtime, and so why not look
28:59
at that. If I'd have been the right and said, hey, hey,
29:00
we're going to make sure this is legitis. I'm bringing in Subtle and
29:03
Sonacker, or aren't they already? I mean, I was under the impression
29:07
a councilman, Sunggress, I was on the impression that there was already an
29:10
audit being done by the firm that you mentioned. Well, they do an
29:15
annual audit. They did one in and gave us a report in March,
29:18
which I brought up on council because it wasn't It was sent out to council
29:23
kind of under cover. You know, just here, this is our subtle
29:26
on Sonicer report. And one of the biggest things they talked about they didn't
29:30
get into CPD over time that they talked about a lot of the cities every
29:36
time was not authorized. There was no policy. And it's coincidentally, just
29:40
by the way, CPD came up with a new policy the day that Kenny
29:45
bast and any Foia, so KTD does have now a kind of a broad
29:51
brush over time policy. And Chief Dempsey told me that he's going to change
29:56
things moving forward that he knows for askew and and I applaud that man.
30:03
You know, he's he's got a tough I mean, he's got all these
30:06
investigations with Chief Hunt, you know there's four now, he's got this overtime
30:11
scandal. And all I'm saying is a is a representative of taxpayers, I
30:17
would be remiss. And I don't know how the public at large does not
30:21
reach out to their council members and going are you asleep? Why is no
30:26
one asking about this? Anybody that gets a paycheck understand? And you know,
30:32
and obviously I brought it up. I thought the mayor would join me
30:34
and saying, hey, let's let's look into this and if everything's good,
30:38
if not, we'll work it out. But if a lot of people know
30:42
and understand it was state employees, governmental employees, your last three years factors
30:48
into your pension. So most of these people on that top getting list of
30:52
overtime. You know, it's really inflating their pension because it doesn't only the
31:00
account for their annual salaries, it also counts for all the overtime pays,
31:03
so you could substantially increase your retirement benefit. It's because they take I don't
31:10
know if it's three or five years, but it's the last several years.
31:12
So if you look at the ones getting it, these are the guys that
31:15
are at seventeen years you know, I'm going to say fifteen years and now,
31:19
so they're really inflating their pension. And we've already got a pension problem.
31:25
We've got an unfunded for uniform officers unfunded liability problem of over three hundred
31:32
million dollars. And then our o PADLINS, which is other other public employees
31:37
pensions, it's underfunded or unfunded by another three hundred and some millions. So
31:42
we're looking at seven hundred and fifty million unfunded pension plans. And look what
31:48
we've exploded into this and if you look at it over a seven year curve,
31:52
you know you and if you look at this from an individual basis,
31:57
I mean quite frankly, no one's going to buy that you can't. It's
32:01
physically impossible, council. So well, before we let you go, because
32:06
we're gonna have to start to wrap it up here I do. I'm gonna
32:07
give you like a minute or so. What would you like to see happen
32:12
in this situation? I mean, you've you've made a lot of I don't
32:15
want see alligat, but I mean you've gone on the record, not just
32:16
on this show. You you said, what what is it that you would
32:20
like to see going forward? And what is your relationship with uh with the
32:23
mayor, like, have you actually tried to talk to her, you know,
32:25
one on one because it seems to be there's a definitely a rift I
32:30
think between the two of you. What would you like to see? Give
32:34
give me sixty seconds and go ahead. I'll be honest. Yeah, I
32:36
mean, I'm a Democrat of the same party. I don't think that mayor
32:40
good one particularly cares for me bringing up I think public business on council floor,
32:47
you know. And I'm sorry, I'm gonna ask about your temporary workers
32:52
that you've worked for three hundred and sixty five days and never took a day
32:54
off. With Jane Balstick that went on for four years so she could get
32:59
a say, retirement. I'm not going to ignore that. And if she
33:02
doesn't like that, I'm doing my job. I'm asking her to do hers.
33:08
I'm never disrespectful. I have no you know, issues with the mayor
33:16
other than I expect you to do your job. I want you to be
33:20
physically responsible. I think she's set on the type hunt investigation for a year
33:24
and swept it under the rug. I'll be very public about that. There's
33:28
no reason why that was not made public. All of this could have been
33:31
done these other women. There's still more to come in that case. So
33:37
you know, my issue is a transparent like you say, you are dealing
33:42
with public funds. We've We've done this with temporary agencies. We've done this
33:46
with paying for private individuals, generals with public funds. It's back to the
33:52
overtime with public funds. Hey get it in getting audit. If it's fine,
33:58
I'm good with it. If everybody's talking about it, why wouldn't you
34:01
put it to bed? And if not, I'm asking J. D.
34:05
Mccusky, our state auditor, to do it. All right? Why not?
34:08
All right? We got to go The council woman sung Grass. I
34:12
appreciate you taking time under schedule to be here. We will talk again soon.
34:15
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fifty five sixty six. Text says, as a user fee payer who does
37:07
not live in the city, who is my representative? Well, you don't
37:12
have one. You can go to city council and you can ask to speak,
37:15
but as far as having representation on council, you do not. Texas.
37:17
I apologize for the length of the text, but I feel it's important
37:21
as a council member who's served under Mayor Goldman and Jones. A discussion of
37:24
the unfunded police pension fund has been discussed for years. Mayor Jones has frequently
37:29
stated his biggest accomplishment was the creation of a new pension system for new hires.
37:34
What has the uncontrolled ot done of the old system? And as the
37:37
city recently done, the worst case if everyone retired at once a study to
37:43
know at what percent of the system will be funded, only one needs to
37:45
look fifty miles west to see what can happen to a bad system. Because
37:50
Huntington spends twenty five percent of their budget on pension payments, according to a
37:53
text or text says when as this woman talking about Shannon songs gonna run from
37:57
Mary of Charleston. She seems to have an answer for everything, or she
38:00
just complains a lot. Text says ask Kenny Bass and Shannon Snodgrass what about
38:05
all the overtime or of the Jones administration? She was there but didn't say
38:08
anything. According to a text her Texas, Dear Dave, one thing I've
38:12
learned from your show unless you are Unless you are squeaky clean and have all
38:16
aspects of your life in order. Never took off. Shannon Snodgrass, she
38:20
doesn't sleep. We need to it. Text all right, final texts here
38:23
Texas. It would be nice for a local newspaper would report weekly police blotter
38:28
items so the public could better understand what the CPD is actually doing each day.
38:31
And Kenny Bass doesn't have to come in with a dirty water mop.
38:35
Also not sure what up bloated city council is doing. If all this overtime
38:38
mess has been going on for years, it's okay to complain, but not
38:40
if you've been on council for years and have done nothing. Let me bring
38:45
in our newest member of the House of Delegates from the District fifty seven,
38:49
Hollis Lewis. He, of course, chosen by the governor, took over
38:51
the spot left vacant would Delegate Doug Stafferd Zion Hollis, Good morning, How
38:54
are you, sir? I'm doing well. How are you doing this morning?
38:55
Should I call you Delegate Lewis? Yeah? When is it official?
38:59
When do you get sworn in? I'm figuring that out so we'll know in
39:00
the next couple of days, so then we can call you that. But
39:05
but we congratulations. By the way, thank you. I appreciate that,
39:07
all right, And now talk about the honor of being chosen. It's a
39:09
big honor, you know. It's one of those things where you know,
39:13
you put your name down, you hope you might get it, and when
39:15
you get it, it's just it's a good feeling to, you know,
39:19
represent communities that I've worked in and and and been in for a while.
39:22
So it's it's it's it's a great honor. Give us the background on Holles
39:25
Lewis. All right, Hollos Lewis. I'm from Charleston, West Virginia.
39:28
I attended George Washington High School. I went to West Virginia State University.
39:32
I played a football there and I was a criminal justice major. And from
39:37
there I went to law school at Southern University. It's in Baton Rouge,
39:39
Louisiana, and I returned home. And upon returning home, and I've worked
39:45
for the federal government. I've i was a Canall County Magistrate judge and uh
39:49
West Virginia Parole Board member. And I've also been an adjunct professor at West
39:52
Virginia State. And I've you know, done a bunch of stuff in the
39:55
community. So I'm thoroughly involved in all things in the community around And I've
40:00
also was a volunteer football coach for about eight years here. And were you
40:02
with the Charleston are your lines at one point or at one point? Yeah,
40:05
but but you're not going out with it you currently? Okay, what
40:08
do you see is the biggest challenge and what are some of the things you'd
40:12
like to work on once you actually get to work. Obviously, the biggest
40:15
challenge is being a Democrat that you know, a super majority state with Republicans.
40:22
But I think that as far as that is concerned, we just have
40:25
to, you know, state our position and do what we can do to
40:28
advance not only genders that we set for, but represent the people and the
40:32
best interests of the people. As far as things I would like to work
40:36
on, obviously I've been talking about sports here with Kaul Lee for for a
40:38
while, but some criminal justice issue things I would like to see about.
40:43
That's kind of what I've been working in previously. Speaking of as you did,
40:47
you mentioned being a Democrat in West Virginia. Uh, you know,
40:51
and for years it was the opposite. It was, it was the opposite.
40:53
I'm from southern West Virginia, but I know all about it. You
40:58
know, the Republicans had the super duper major already in the legislature. Now
41:00
you're one of the few Democrats could be serving there. What kind of what
41:05
kind of challenges at Hollis. It's a big challenge because you know, things
41:07
that we that we deem important, things that we might want to push forward,
41:12
could get squashed just because you know that don't represent the interests of Republicans.
41:16
However, I think that I want to come up with the attitude.
41:19
I want to, you know, voice our agenda, voice our perspective,
41:22
but also we have to be workable and try to you know, build bridges
41:27
and not not always be so adversarial when it comes to represent the people West
41:31
Virginia. And I know it's too early to speculate, but you'll be completing
41:36
the term of now. Former Delegate Doug Scat. Any thoughts on the future
41:40
or do you want to get in there and you know, learn where everything
41:43
is before we decide if you're gonna run. Yeah, you may get in
41:45
there day one ago. Man. The same for me. I'm out,
41:47
you know. But if you thought about that, yeah, I definitely thought
41:51
about it. You know, like I said, once I get in there
41:52
and figure it, figure everything out, then I can give you more definitive
41:55
advantage. But as of now, I mean the thought processes the run,
41:59
I'm gonna and uh, you know, just be kicking all things as I'll
42:01
be kicking all my journey and the legislator. Now you are and you kind
42:06
of touched us a little bit, hollosh. You're known as as quite the
42:09
big person in the community as far as getting getting things done. What have
42:13
you learned in your community work or in your business life that you think will
42:19
serve you well as a legislator? Man? The thing is about it is
42:22
like I think, you know, being a leadership positions, being in the
42:24
community, Not everybody's gonna get along. Not everybody's going to have the same
42:29
uh. I think even if you have the same mission, even if you
42:31
have the same goal, people have different ways that they want to go about
42:35
executing that. So you have to be in a position where you can,
42:39
you know, listen to people, and you have to be in a position
42:42
where you have to be flexible to get the job done. So that's kind
42:45
of the biggest thing that I've learned, you know, And how we're close
42:49
with this. I've talked to people that have gotten to the legislature before,
42:52
whether it's in Senator, the House, and it's on both sides of the
42:54
island. They'll say, well, you know, I came in with this
42:57
list of things I want to want to get this done, but then I
42:59
got frustrated when I got there because I didn't feel like I could really make
43:02
a difference. How is Hollis Lewis gonna make a difference. And like I
43:06
said, I'm gonna get in there and I'm gonna figure out what we can
43:08
do. I'm gonna figure out what we can do, and I'm gonna figure
43:10
out how we can influence things that we maybe that's not all large and the
43:15
things that we uh that we can't obviously due to the extent that we would
43:21
like to do, but just because we're at such a disadvantage as far as
43:22
numbers concerned. But I think there's ways to influence even those things that you
43:28
know that we couldn't fully you know, flesh out. Yeah, well,
43:32
it's it's a difficult job being in the House of Delegates, I mean for
43:36
anybody, even even Republicans right now, because and you got to have the
43:39
ear of the community, and I know the church community, guy, and
43:42
I know that you're gonna you're gonna do well in Charleston. We wish you
43:45
the best to luck. I appreciate you having me on. Thank you,
43:46
and swear Nando's gonna be happening soon, right, yeah, I'll be happening
43:50
this so I'll let you know. Okay. Hollis Lewis is the newest member
43:52
of the West Virginia House of a Delegates, served out of fifty six fifty
43:58
seven fifty seven, I said, okay, I think at fifty six one
44:00
place fifty seven other time. I appreciate you being here we'll talk soon.
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Festival dot com. Going back to the Shannon Snodgrass interview, tex says Dave
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Mayor Goodwin has repeatedly talted Charleston Police Department's high solve rate on crimes. That's
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a completely made up fictional metric of success, and actual metric is that vital
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defenders have very low conviction rates in Charleston because officers don't work effectively with prosecutors
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to achieve actual justice. Then they finger point blame thanks to Councilmember Snodgrass for
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keeping this reform moving forward. According to a texture Texas, Dave, there
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are not enough officers in any law enforcement agencies. Speed limit enforcement is non
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existent. Charleston and Milton are the only agencies that enforce speed limits Texas.
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The overtime issue has been going on forever. The only thing that changed the
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administration regarding the police shortage. Do we not remember then Mayor Danny Jones asking
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city council in twenty seventeen to raise the user fee to hire ten more officers
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fully staffed. Huh, says a question marked Texas asked Shannon stotographs, or
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she'll make all her communitys public that she's had with the Truth Squad, Or
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is a FOIA request necessary? According to a texture to Hollis Lewis, Texture
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lot to unpack from Councilwoman's Snodgrass was very difficult to follow the point she was
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trying to make well. She had a lot of points. That's Councilwoman's Snodgrass.
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She had a lot of points, mainly the problem her major issue seems
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to be with the overtime situation Charleston. And what she is saying is is
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that and this is her words, and I'm you know, I'll have her
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back on again. And by the way, let me just say this,
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I will gladly have anyone from the City of Charleston on the show to refute
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any comments that Councilwoman Snydergrass made. You know, we do the Mayor Monday
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segment when Mayor Goodman once a month. But if she wants to come on,
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or if Chief of Staff Matt Stutton or anybody wants to come on with
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the city, I try to be I'm an equal opportunity offender, Ryan.
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I try to have everybody on as as much as possible, So if somebody
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wants to come on, I'll let him on. But basically, what council
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Woman Snydergrass was saying, she's got some problems with the overtime issues. She's
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saying that the higher ups in the Charleston Police Department are really racking in the
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overtime and that son she says she's hearing from some of the lower level officers
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that they aren't getting those same opportunities. And that's what that's what she is
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alleging. Now, there are audits of the Charleston Police Department, just like
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they're all all other governmental agencies. I think she wants to see, in
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her words, a little bit more transparency. I think that is what she
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is trying to say to do. Let me see. Okay, I agree
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that Tex says, what about the double dipping for former police chiefs who are
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collecting retirement while also collecting checks as the heads of public Works and the sanitary
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Department. It seems like money is loose in Charleston. According to a texture
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Pharmacy, your hometown family pharmacy. There was a shooting in Charleston early this
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morning. Story post at wv metronews dot com. It appears to be drug
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related. A person by the name of Blaine Ivory. I think it was
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forty one A Cross Lanes was the vitim of the shooting that took place along
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First Avenue on the West End. As of the time I went on the
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air, no arrest have been made. Investigation is continuing. Interesting discussion last
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night on High School Game Night, related or the high school sports one,
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I should say, related to the controversy over this new high school transfer rule.
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A whole houseful including the head of the SSAC, delegate Dana Farrell's on
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the show, of course, Fred Perr Singer and Dave Jacqueline and Joe Procado.
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New delegate who you just turned from, Hollis Lewis also on the show,
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If you get an opportunity. It was a great discussion. I listened
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to the entire show last night. I told my wife I was on home.
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I said, I'm just gonna listen to a little bit of this,
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and I ended up listening to the entire show last night. Go back and
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listen to it if you want to get some different perspectives on this whole mess
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with the high school transfer rule. Go back and listen to the show that
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Fred and the crew did last night. It's available, of course at WV
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Metro News dot com. It was a very very interesting discussion to say,
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at least, and I'll be honest with you, and talking to several member
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of the legislators legislatures, legislators, I don't think it's gonna change the support.
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It's just not there for it. I could be wrong. I've been
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wrong many many times before, but I think this what we're seeing in high
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school sports is here to stay, all right. Thank you so much Councilorman
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Shannon Stagress for being on the call on the show, Sandy call for Bridge
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Road Bistro. Appreciate her being here and all the food she brought us today
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as well. And the new Delega, Hylas Lewis coming up on the show
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tomorrow. My guest host it's gonna be Bill Lynch from the Gazette Mail.
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Looking forward to having him on the show to mark Chris Lawrence and talk high
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school football. Hannah Gardner with our dot me please pet of the Week Jim
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Strawn on the show tomorrow, as well. Hoppy coming up. I will
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see you tomorrow. Till then, have fun. I Love Somebody w C
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