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We Can Stop Caring About Keyshawn Davis Now · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In this corner, standing at six foot five, weight class unknowns,
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  Speaker 1: but hailing from the city of Sins.
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  Speaker 2: Put your hands together for Jamison Welch.
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  Speaker 1: And in this corner, standing at five foot ten, weighing
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  Speaker 1: in at pound and coming to us from his super
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  Speaker 1: secret bunker with no ac in Tucson, Arizona. Put your
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  Speaker 1: hands together for Louis Montemao.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to another episode of Let's Tell
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  Speaker 3: Me Podcast. Will be a shorty edition. As always, I'm
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  Speaker 3: one half of the show. This is Jamison going by
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  Speaker 3: the Louis the wist.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on, man, Jamison.
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  Speaker 5: We had a cool weekend to fights last Saturday that
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to get into here. Of course, we saw
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  Speaker 5: the long awaited fight between Lamont Roach and Williams Szepeta.
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  Speaker 4: I was very excited about it. I was rooting for Roach.
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  Speaker 5: Unfortunately it was not to be put in a good performance.
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  Speaker 5: But man, Williams Pepea, that looked fucking great that night,
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  Speaker 5: and I just wanted to start by getting your thoughts
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  Speaker 5: on what we saw on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's it was interesting because roaches come off
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  Speaker 3: two draws, which is very odd just in general, right,
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  Speaker 3: a guy fighting two different guys and having unique draws
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  Speaker 3: in both fights and then coming out kind of lackluster
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  Speaker 3: in this one. And then you have Sapata, who came
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  Speaker 3: off a loss, but a pretty contested, understandable loss, fought
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  Speaker 3: really well like he fought. I mean you the preparation,
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  Speaker 3: the planning, I felt like the style, he had a lot.
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  Speaker 3: He was the better fighter all night, and it was
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  Speaker 3: really not a close, to be honest with you. With
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  Speaker 3: that being said, you can tell that Roach at one
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  Speaker 3: point in time was just a card filler and the
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  Speaker 3: Peta was a legit contender. Even though Roach's last two
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  Speaker 3: fights were of quality. You can tell, hey, Roach is
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  Speaker 3: who he is. He's not bad, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: it's levels right, You could tell Cepeda's probably gonna get
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  Speaker 3: a title.
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  Speaker 2: Fight or a big fight soon. That was a difference to.
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  Speaker 5: Me anyway, absolutely, And you know, Lamon Roach had came
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  Speaker 5: out with excellent defense. I think me speaking not as
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  Speaker 5: an expert in somebody who was never good at sporing anyway,
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  Speaker 5: was the counterpunches weren't there.
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  Speaker 4: He was throwing combos.
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  Speaker 5: He was had good defense, but he needed a shorten
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  Speaker 5: the time in between the defense.
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  Speaker 4: And punching back. You know, a lot of people make
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  Speaker 4: fun of Shakur Stevens.
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  Speaker 5: And saying he's a boring fighter. He just runs, he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't actually engage. No, that dude has the highest percentage
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  Speaker 5: of hitting and not being.
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  Speaker 4: Hit of most fighters. Like he knows how to not
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  Speaker 4: get caught, but he'd also counterpunches.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let's not hold that one terrible Dela Santo's fight
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  Speaker 5: against him, and I think that's what was missing from Roach.
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  Speaker 4: You could see him also his defense slowing down and
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  Speaker 4: like I don't know, Brown, like.
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  Speaker 5: Let's say nine, he was making those similar moves, but
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  Speaker 5: he was getting caught a lot more so. His speed
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  Speaker 5: definitely decreased when it came to the bobbing, leaving and dodging.
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  Speaker 4: But very exciting at least.
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  Speaker 5: I had a lot of fun watching it, and I
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  Speaker 5: think that, you know, Lamont Rose definitely deserves to to
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  Speaker 5: continue getting more fights.
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  Speaker 4: Is he going to be the biggest star in the world.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely not. But I had a good time. And we
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  Speaker 4: also have to give a shout out.
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  Speaker 5: To T and T for airing that on live or
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  Speaker 5: you know, on regular TV, not streaming. I got to
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  Speaker 5: watch it at a craft beer bar and Tucson A
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  Speaker 5: shout out to the Broadway.
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  Speaker 4: You guys are awesome. I asked the bartender to borrow
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  Speaker 4: a TV.
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  Speaker 5: There are people watching a baseball game, which is I
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  Speaker 5: don't know why I didn't they'd crowd around my TV
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  Speaker 5: to watch boxing, because that's a real sports is not
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  Speaker 5: boring as hell. But no, I was really really happy
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  Speaker 5: to be able to watch it out in public, grabbing
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  Speaker 5: a beer. It was on mute because the bar was
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  Speaker 5: playing their music, but it didn't bother me that much honestly.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I think that William Sepeda is
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  Speaker 5: definitely a name to keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 4: I believe he only has the one loss to Shakur, right,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think Yeah, so one.
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  Speaker 5: L doesn't do anything to derail somebody's career if they're
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  Speaker 5: a good fighter, you know, have a promising career. So
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  Speaker 5: I really want to see more from this guy. And
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  Speaker 5: you know, I was still tune in to watch Lamont
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  Speaker 5: Roach fight. I'm not saying that you know he's dead
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  Speaker 5: to me or anything like.
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  Speaker 4: That, but are you will you turn in or what's
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  Speaker 4: it with your take on anything?
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  Speaker 3: He can't be the better fighter than for me to
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  Speaker 3: tune in, and that's why I'm app with it. But
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  Speaker 3: if he's on a card, cool, But if he's like,
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  Speaker 3: if he's in the headlining fight, he's the best fighter.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he'll be on the background, but I'm not
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  Speaker 3: like having that much.
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  Speaker 4: That's fair.
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  Speaker 5: I guess when you say like he's the main guy,
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  Speaker 5: then you know, uh, it says a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot about the opponent and the quality of the card.
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  Speaker 5: But uh no, I mean know, he gave a lot
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  Speaker 5: of respect to that and you know said he he
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  Speaker 5: was surprised me and he came out strong.
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  Speaker 4: So he's a very gracious, gracious loss for him. Uh
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  Speaker 4: here's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: I was bummed at he lost, But I'm also just
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  Speaker 5: happy that we didn't get another draw because in the
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  Speaker 5: first few rounds they looked evenly matched.
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  Speaker 2: It could have went that way, right dude.
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  Speaker 5: Then when, oh god, what's his name? The guy that
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  Speaker 5: always has the unofficial scorecards? When am I blanking on
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  Speaker 5: his name?
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  Speaker 2: I know you think I can't think it was the
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  Speaker 2: name either. I was gonna say the letter. Remember that's
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  Speaker 2: not ragged.
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  Speaker 4: It's whatever they are chrismatics. Chris manis yep ye.
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  Speaker 5: After the first four rounds Chris Mannix had it even
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  Speaker 5: and I just I said out loud to the TV,
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  Speaker 5: fuck you Mannix. No, this better not be how it
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  Speaker 5: turns out. I'm gonna be pissed. But it wasn't gonna be.
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  Speaker 5: It was not that wasn't gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Now, like I said, I saw it out of the bar.
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  Speaker 5: The sound was off and I did see the open
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  Speaker 5: scoring on the screen. Did they do the thing they
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  Speaker 5: did last time where they announced it in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: Of a round or did they just leave it up?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was when I was the end of
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  Speaker 3: the round. I think, okay, yeah, I don't remember off top.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm not a fan of open scoring. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a fan of it. I mean it takes the entry
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  Speaker 3: away from the fans. Like the boxers kind of know
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  Speaker 3: where they're at the fight for the most part. As
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  Speaker 3: a boxer, you know your corner should know. But as
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  Speaker 3: a fan, I don't want to know the score. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to know, like if anything, maybe if
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  Speaker 3: you're to do open scoring, you can do it after
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  Speaker 3: like the sixth round or something, But I don't need
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  Speaker 3: to know after every round.
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  Speaker 2: Every third round, I prefer not to know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe they put it up round like five,
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  Speaker 5: but they only put up the scores for the first three,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm like, that's what's the.
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  Speaker 2: Point in that.
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  Speaker 5: I did say in the previous episode when we talked
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  Speaker 5: about open scoring that I didn't have a really strong
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  Speaker 5: opinion either way.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't like upset about it.
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  Speaker 5: But with time and seeing it on Saturday, I pop
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  Speaker 5: up a couple of times. I'm leaning more towards dislike
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  Speaker 5: than apathy. It's just unnecessary. I never thought it's something
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  Speaker 5: that really benefits the sport that much. And just to
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  Speaker 5: you know, the at the last fight where that came up,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of the commentaris were saying, every other sport
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  Speaker 5: has it, but that's not enough of a reason to
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  Speaker 5: do it.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not. I was sparing boxing though.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think we have to understand that letterry spport me
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  Speaker 3: every sport, but we have to make sure box and
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  Speaker 3: keep the supurity and keep boxing what makes boxing great.
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  Speaker 3: We don't need open scoring every fight. I would take
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  Speaker 3: away from a lot of fights. But also, to be
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  Speaker 3: with you, it also messed with the head of the
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  Speaker 3: boxer as well, because now you kind of get out
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  Speaker 3: of your your planning if you know the score. Why,
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  Speaker 3: I just don't think it's a good idea.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the justification that was used was that it'll give
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  Speaker 5: boxes a chance to adjust. But like you said, they
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  Speaker 5: should know, they should be experienced enough to.
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  Speaker 4: Know where they're at, what they're doing wrong.
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  Speaker 5: And even you know, they might have a plan on
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  Speaker 5: how to get the later rounds back, doesn't mean they're
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  Speaker 5: able to input it. If you know, we've seen plenty
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  Speaker 5: of corners tell the guy throw a jab, throw the
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  Speaker 5: jets of the jab, and the guy just doesn't do it,
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  Speaker 5: or you know whatever, you know, you move, CounterPunch, come
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  Speaker 5: in with a double jab.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard that recently and the fighter just wasn't doing it.
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  Speaker 4: So if they can't, they can't do it. They can't
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  Speaker 4: do it, doesn't matter what the score.
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  Speaker 2: Is, you know, true, very true.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, so I'm still not at the point where
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, annoyed by a piste about it
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  Speaker 5: that it shows up, and it's just like we don't
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  Speaker 5: need it. I don't think it's really benefits the sport
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  Speaker 5: to have it. I think we should kind of just
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  Speaker 5: move away from it. But but if that's the case,
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  Speaker 5: because I believe the last time this happened was during
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  Speaker 5: the last TNT event, right, yeah, so this might be
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  Speaker 5: a thing we just have to deal with going forward.
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  Speaker 5: It's like another one. It was one of the ZUFA events, Sue,
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  Speaker 5: I don't see. I don't think so, I don't remember.
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  Speaker 5: That's kind of get a little if.
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  Speaker 3: There was one of TNT events and another one on
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  Speaker 3: top of that as well. I want to say it
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  Speaker 3: was one of the zoof events.
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  Speaker 5: You may be right, yeah, I think this in this time,
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  Speaker 5: we're kind of taking the good with the bad. Is yes,
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  Speaker 5: we're gonna have fights on TNT and they're going to
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  Speaker 5: be on regular television.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be able to watch them at a.
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  Speaker 5: Bar, but I have to deal with seeing the legitimate
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  Speaker 5: scores on screen.
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  Speaker 4: Which is like right, fine, I guess, but yeah again,
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  Speaker 4: you know good.
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  Speaker 5: I thought good production from what I saw on on TNT.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm really enjoying this series, this monthly series of fights.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how you're feeling about it so far,
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  Speaker 5: Like I'm man.
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  Speaker 2: It's blessing.
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  Speaker 3: It's really cool man, to watch fights that you normally
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't see, or maybe like it's good to see you
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  Speaker 3: every weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We've had pretty good fights.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, now we'll say so. Last TNT, the main event
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  Speaker 4: was Abdulla Mason up and coming star. Then you got
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  Speaker 4: Roach for Stipeta, both.
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  Speaker 5: Coming off from you know, not wins, but having a
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  Speaker 5: lot of hype for their fight for the matchup next month.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw that the TNT matches
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  Speaker 5: Andy Ruiz coming back. I'm curious. I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 5: I'm like super stoked to see him back in the ring,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm very curious. I mean, I can't when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to like the biggest flameouts in recent boxing memory,
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  Speaker 5: it's him that comes to mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what were our expectations.
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  Speaker 5: Well, i mean based based on his win against anthy
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  Speaker 5: Joshed the big upset, Like this guy has an upset
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  Speaker 5: and you think, hey, maybe this is the new guy
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  Speaker 5: and just.
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  Speaker 3: No, his body's told you that that was him never
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  Speaker 3: getting in serious shape, told you he was never going
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  Speaker 3: to be the guy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you can't look fat.
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  Speaker 3: Joe and be a headway champ like it worked that
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  Speaker 3: way we all. I mean, fat Joe's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: weight and he's the way up shape down that he
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  Speaker 3: used to be. But you can't have that body type
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  Speaker 3: and be the headway champ. You cannot, like there's no
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  Speaker 3: you cannot.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't.
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  Speaker 3: Like you have. There's a certain type of cardio vascular
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  Speaker 3: you know, look and feel you gotta have in order
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  Speaker 3: to be the chance to look you gotta have it.
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  Speaker 3: And there's no way he was gonna be the champ
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  Speaker 3: for any any longer, gonna fight.
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  Speaker 4: That's fair, that's fair.
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  Speaker 5: I you know, the win was the win, and it
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  Speaker 5: was a really good win, a good knockout, and like
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  Speaker 5: I said, a big upset.
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  Speaker 2: So it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was at the very least exciting to see this
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  Speaker 5: new guy that wasn't a well known name step up
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  Speaker 5: to the fight. But but yeah, I like I said,
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  Speaker 5: I would be curious as to see what he's doing.
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  Speaker 5: He has definitely been working out. I've seeing him hop
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  Speaker 5: up here and there, you know, going hard in.
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  Speaker 4: The gym and looking better.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't know, I will, I'll say this, definitely,
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  Speaker 5: the excitement for the monthly TNT events was like up.
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  Speaker 4: Here and then it got a little bit lower. Was
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  Speaker 4: a about Andrew Reus Sticks, a month about you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously who Waltz on that card.
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  Speaker 3: But I know, I really trying to speak to see
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  Speaker 3: him fight, Like, be honest with you, I will watch,
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  Speaker 3: but ain't like, ain't nobody really watch him for flight?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it is what it is. There's no like
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  Speaker 2: seriousness with his fights. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I was very excited about Roach versus Sepetta and I
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  Speaker 5: was tuning in. Yeah, I was like really stoked to
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  Speaker 5: see it, and I was locked in the whole fight.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, when they announced that, I'm like, I'll show
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  Speaker 5: up next month, Well you know, we'll see a we'll
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  Speaker 5: talk about et cetera. But it's not the same level
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  Speaker 5: of excitement that I had. No by any means fighters,
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, and I did. I took a quick glance
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  Speaker 5: at the card and there weren't any names that are recognized,
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  Speaker 5: Like right away, I didn't do any like you know,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes you see the name and you're.
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  Speaker 4: Like, do I know that guy?
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  Speaker 5: And you see previous fights opponents, You're like, oh, right,
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  Speaker 5: I saw him on this card. That card, I didn't
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  Speaker 5: see any any names that were recognizable, So, uh, make
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  Speaker 5: of that.
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  Speaker 4: Way we all will at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm always excited to watch boxing, watch fights,
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  Speaker 5: no matter what so I'll, i'll, I'll tune in and
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  Speaker 5: I'll be very happy to go out and find a
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  Speaker 5: bar where I can.
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  Speaker 4: Borrow a TV to put it on.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, there, let's let's hope October's fight is a
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  Speaker 5: lot more exciting on the TNT channel.
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  Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, But no disrespect to Andy Ruiz, but you know.
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  Speaker 2: Uh nah, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Look here, when you have the opportunity to be to
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  Speaker 3: have a weight champ and you don't take it seriously enough,
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  Speaker 3: then no, there's a me direspect because here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: His hands are nights Like. We've never talked about his
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  Speaker 3: hands not being nice, That's never been an issue. But
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  Speaker 3: you can't look like that and be a serious contender
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  Speaker 3: for that weight champion fasting.
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  Speaker 2: That sucks, Like it would have been nice to.
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  Speaker 3: See him win the belt and then get in crazy
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  Speaker 3: shape and defended because his hands are not his hands
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  Speaker 3: beat is up to he's nice, like, he's not a
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  Speaker 3: bad fighter. It's just like, when you're in that kind
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  Speaker 3: of physical condition, you're not going to be a champion
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  Speaker 3: that long.
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  Speaker 2: It just don't work that way.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess I remember, if I'm not mistaken, there's
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  Speaker 3: some stuff that happened outside the ring. I think like
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  Speaker 3: he enjoyed himself lot after winning that belt. I believe
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  Speaker 3: as lot I'm hearing. So it happens. It's life, I
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  Speaker 3: get it. But we knew he want to be champed
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  Speaker 3: for that long. We knew who that was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he admitted that, he said, he just you know,
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  Speaker 5: got high in his own supply, did a lot of drinking,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of partying, just didn't take boxing seriously after that.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I we've seen that happen.
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  Speaker 5: So many times where I yeah, people, I understand celebrating,
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  Speaker 5: you know, winning a big fight, having an upset, having
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  Speaker 5: the belt, et cetera, et cetera. But you gotta defend
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  Speaker 5: that shit. You gotta keep up the skills. Like nobody
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  Speaker 5: is an amazing fighter. Well remember by history because of
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  Speaker 5: one really good fight, no matter how great you did,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Stay in shape. That's the thing you have to stay
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  Speaker 2: in great ship.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a boxer, the biggest job you have is
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  Speaker 3: staying fighting shape at all times.
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  Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen so many guys either struggle to make weight
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  Speaker 3: or even not make way recently because they're not staying
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: in shape outside of the ring and outside of fighting time,
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: and that's crazy to me.
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: Well, and didn't didn't announce you to say that, Like,
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: I think it's been that came in you know, half
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: a pound over wait on Saturday as well.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Which is fine, that that's not the end of the world.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: But like guys coming in like two four six pounds
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: are like, nah, that's that's correct to me. That's wild.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: But again, things happen, and everybody's training camp was different.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: But in general, I think a lot of guys do
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: a poor job of staying in the best shape they
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: could possibly be in at all times.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, and I'm not saying that, you know, wasn't.
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying that he looked great, he moved great,
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: He won that fight really well, and he looked and
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: he looked actually even like huge compared to Roach, and
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: he still couldn't.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: Make that half pound. You know.
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: It's like for somebody that isn't taking themselves seriously, you
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: got no chance.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: So exactly, but yeah, I don't know.
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: I think for for nostalgia's sake of the fun era,
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: when Andrewiz did win and it was like the big
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: upset and like everybody was like, what the hell happened?
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: Where does that come from? Et cetera.
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: You know, of course I'll check it out, but definitely
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: not top tier appointment boxing.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: I think, no, no, no, no.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: But another thing we got to talk about that came
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: up at the end of last week was Kishon Davis
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: versus Devin Haney, or rather the lack of the fight
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: between the two of them. Kishon Davis pulled out, said
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: he wanted to get paid five million as opposed to
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: two point three two point five that he was being offered.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: Completely blew up the chances for the fight. You know,
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: the promoters moving on, and I was not very happy
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: about that at all. I was excited about the prospect
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: of the two and fighting. Thing about Kishon Davis is
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: we got to remember that in twenty twenty five in June,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: I believe is when he didn't make weight against Della Santos,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: and whether he had a career or not was in question.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: For the rest of twenty twenty five.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: He was persona on Gratta. He said he would needed
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: to take time to figure out what he wanted to do.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: Whatever, that's fine, that's I don't have an opinion on
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: that either way.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: All I'm saying, is that, bro, last year, you basically had.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: No career, and now you're blowing up a really really
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: big fight because you're not getting the five MS you wanted.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: I don't think he should be. He's not at a
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: position where we should be making that demand. I think
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: what about you?
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's crazy. But also here's the
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: thing too, You got to read your contract. So if
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: you sign a promotion contract with somebody.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Getting a third of your of your dealings, then that's
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: on you. Like every boxer assigned a has taken less
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: money at some point for a fight that they either
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: had to or didn't want to whatever, they just did
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: what they had to do. That's to know him. That's
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: the game. And you can go down every hell terms.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Crawford took less money last fight, and we saw what happened.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Floyd took less money oscar Use. There's so many examples
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: throughout the time. For Keshawn Davis to act like this
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: and to like keep prolonging this is very disappointing. I'm
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: very upset because here's the thing. We don't have to
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: care about him, but he's done nothing for us to
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: care about, Like we don't have to really, and then
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: he don't really matter at the end of the day,
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Like he really doesn't like we can go on about
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: our day without watching him careing about him boxing. Really
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: don't like, we can we can keep moving, be honest
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: with you. That's kind of where I'm at with it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: That's where I'm at, And you be honest with you.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I'm there like, hey, you know what, this is cool,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: but we can keep it moving.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: This ain't it. This ain't it man?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: So you passed up a fight because a million of
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: your of your three million dollar person is going to
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: your promoter because you signed a bad deal. Nah, that's
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: on you. Here's the thing. Take the take the bag,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: win the fight. Then when you win the fight, you
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: command whateverever you need to command, and then go from there. No,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: you don't, You're not that. You're not in that mindset.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: So I know he's not serious. We're good, We're good.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was definitely a lot more open to
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: the idea of Kishank coming back into the ring. You know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, he's always been a
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: talented fighter, uh, and him not taking anything seriously last
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: year and.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Going through that ricking role like that was that sucked.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: But I was like, hey, man, I want more stars,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I want more names, I want you know, more fights,
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: so please, by all means, come on back. But yeah,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: he just I'm with you. I'm kind of ready to
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: move on because he hasn't really shown that he deserves
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: that big shot.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: This was his chance.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: If he beat Devin Haney, then people would be like
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: this is the guy he you know, he sucked up
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: last year, but he's back, baby, especially be dominated you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: got a knockout whatever. But yeah, I definitely not a
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: fan of what just went down. One thing that personally
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: annoyed me. So after last year, Kishan returned to the
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: ring in January on the course Stevenson versus Tail Female card.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: I remember after the fight, I saw Chakour on Instagram posting,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: you know, a congratuatory post, you know, celebrating, et cetera.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: And I remember Keishan commented and he said, this is
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: our time, brother, it's our we're the guys. I'm like, no, no, no,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: no no, you're not part of this party right now.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't jump in. It's like me.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Saying like oh yeah, you know, sports broadcasters like me
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: and you know some whoever the hell on ASPN like
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: we're an I'm sorry we're not on the same run.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also too, it was disappointing because it's like, bro,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: like you gotta read the room. While you're not reading
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the room and people around you are giving bad information.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: If they whoever around you told you no, then you
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: need to seriously look at their camp and read anyway things.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Because the three million was there. Take the fight.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: If you win the fight, you're gonna get way more.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Even the matterally you fight somebody else, you're gonnat way more.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Whoever's getting advice from is getting bad advice. And though
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: these are how careers are ruined, these are how careers
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: are never the same. His next fight, people don't care about.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. People will not be
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: tuned in. Like the Haini fight was gonna be a
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: very good measurement for both guys. It would be very good.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: It was probably the perfect measuring stick for both guys
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: that are at the stage of the game.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think people care about Kee Dan Davis. You
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: can only keep doing these things to the public for
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: so long. Into the public like, NA, we're not interested.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: And also, let's not forget that his last fight against
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: They're oh right, you know that's the one where you
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: literally picked.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Up embodies signed him onto the ground.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was unnecessary. It wasn't necessary.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: It's really unsports been like, and you know a lot
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: of people, you know, on Instagram comments were saying like, yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: take that ship. Oh I deserve that, that's what he gets,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: blah blah blah, that's bullshit. Fuck that, Like that's again unsportsmanlike,
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: it's not what the sport is, not what boxing should be.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: People could get genuinely hurt just being in the ring period.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: But on top of that, you do this shit like
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I I I'll put it to you this way,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: like I I really really wanted to be the biggest
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: key Shon fan in the world. I wanted him to
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: be my guy, and he just really just has been
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: making it hard for me for you know, the last year, and.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: This is just one more thing.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: That's one more thing. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, who the hell is he is he gonna
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: fight next? Like, you know, nobody that's gonna bring him
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: that much hype.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: There's no matchup, like he just passed up. That's issue.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, very very disappointed. We'll just see you know.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I And another thing too is I was excited to
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: see Devin Haney back in the ring after his last
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: fight when he kicked ass and I was like these, yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: hey me two point oh, let's let's fucking go.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I want him in the ring.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I want to see if he keeps it, keep brings
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: that same energy as people say, so that I'm disappointed
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: for two reasons now, and yeah, what a loss of
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: a potential good fight. And that's the worst of it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: It's just like when the sport already needs more events,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: more fights, more stars, more basically more eye catching events.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: That's probably the worst thing you could have done so
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: for right, right.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think we wanted to keep this one short.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I could always keep going for the ten to fifteen minutes,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: but let's wrap it up. Let's, you know, keep an
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: eye on what goes on in the next fight, and
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: we'll follow up next week. Jamison, we can people find
• 21:45
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• 21:45
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