Latest / Laura and Lauren Podcast / Mystic Spiral Podcast Episode 12: Scrying
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- 0:00[music]
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Mystic Spiral,
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: the podcast where earth-rooted magic,
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: animal wisdom,
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: and ancient enchantment twist together like a serpent and a snail in the moss.
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: Join us as we explore the unseen, the intuitive, and the beautifully strange.
- 0:31SPEAKER_01: Each episode invites you deeper into the spiral,
- 0:34SPEAKER_01: into the myth, and into the wild magic that lives within and around all of us.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: Hi, I'm Lauren,
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: crystal healer, earth-rooted mystic, and friend of snails and mossy feyfolk magic.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: And I'm Laura, animal communicator, serpent kinfwana witch, and solitary social practitioner.
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: Hey, mythlings!
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the Mystic Spiral.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: In today's episode,
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: we are going to let the mists of divination engulf us as we delve into scrying.
- 1:18SPEAKER_01: One of the most ancient forms of magic that we can trace back in history and one of
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: the most accessible practices for anyone to use.
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: If any questions should arise during this episode,
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: please send them to us at mysticspiralpodcast at gmail.com and we'll answer them in
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: a future Q&A episode.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: The word scrying comes from an old English word,
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: the scry, which means to see something unclear or distant by looking carefully.
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: According to the dictionary.com, it's also sometimes called peeping or seeing.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: Basically,
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: it's using an object's surface,
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: smoke, or something else to tap into your intuition and see things that are unclear.
- 2:09SPEAKER_01: So what fortune tellers in movies use crystal balls for?
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: In movies,
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: they show using the crystal ball to see someone's future,
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: but scrying can also be used to see the past and the present.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: It can help clarify things in any time, really.
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: Those movie fortune tellers also often read tea leaves,
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: and tassiomancy or tea leaf reading is also a form of scrying.
- 2:32SPEAKER_01: In addition to crystal balls and tea leaves,
- 2:34SPEAKER_01: you can use coffee grounds, smoke, fire, water, stones, and mirrors to scry.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there really is a way to do it for anyone.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: The first known scrying in history was ancient Mesopotamia, which was around 4000 BCE.
- 2:48SPEAKER_00: They used polished stones and other reflective surfaces like mirrors to do it.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: Ancient Egyptians and ancient Greeks also used similar tools for scrying.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: Nostradamus is the most well-known person when you think of scrying.
- 3:02SPEAKER_01: He used a brass bowl of water to scry or a mirror.
- 3:05SPEAKER_01: We're still interpreting his prophecies today.
- 3:08SPEAKER_00: So let's talk about how to choose a scrying medium.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: If you're not sure how to start scrying,
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: start with something you already have, water or maybe a candle.
- 3:17SPEAKER_01: You can absolutely buy a black mirror or a pretty bowl specifically to put water
- 3:21SPEAKER_01: for scrying into if that's your jam, but you don't have to.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: You already have what you need nearby and in yourself.
- 3:27SPEAKER_01: If you can see shapes and clouds, you have the ability to scry.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: I love the look of black mirrors and I have one,
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: but water feels most comfortable for me to work with.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: You might also feel called to use whatever's left over
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: after you've drank your coffee or tea or you might feel more peaceful sitting by
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: a lake and looking out the water.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: There isn't really a wrong answer,
- 3:47SPEAKER_01: but the element that calls to you might influence what you choose.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: Water is obviously water and fire is fire.
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: Smoke is air.
- 3:55SPEAKER_01: Stones and tea leaves are earth.
- 3:57SPEAKER_01: You might try all of them and see what feels best for you or
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: the situation you're trying to see clearer might influence which tool you use.
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: So what is scrying for?
- 4:06SPEAKER_00: Scrying is just like any other method of divination.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: It's just the channel you're tuning yourself into
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: so you can hear what your higher self is saying.
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if scrying is something that calls to you, try it out.
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: If you prefer pendulums, you can use those.
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: Or if you want to have experience in many forms of divination,
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: you can practice as many as you want and pull out whichever skill feels right in
- 4:28SPEAKER_01: the moment.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so let's dive into how to scry.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: When you have chosen which type of scrying is right for you,
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: sit down, get comfortable, and relax your body and mind.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: Focus on the water, candle, or whatever you have chosen.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: But not too hard.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: You want to ease into it.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: Almost like a meditative or trance-like state.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: You can also use breath work here if that helps too.
- 4:54SPEAKER_01: Just wait patiently for whatever comes to you.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: Don't try to force anything and don't dismiss any feelings or images that you get either.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: If you feel like you won't remember,
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: you can have a little notebook and pen nearby to write things down
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: as you experience them.
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: You can even keep a little journal to track what you get and look back on it
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: and see how far you've come with practice.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: Some people choose to scry at specific times,
- 5:17SPEAKER_00: like at night, to be surrounded by darkness, or to connect to the magic of the moon.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: But you can scry whenever it feels right.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you have time to play around with it, go for it.
- 5:29SPEAKER_01: I've also heard of people doing what I call micro scrying,
- 5:32SPEAKER_01: where they do it for short periods of time,
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: like when they're washing their hands,
- 5:35SPEAKER_01: focusing on the water and soap,
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: or when they're cooking and focusing on a pot of soup.
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: When I was a little kid,
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: I used to scry in the water around the drain in the shower
- 5:43SPEAKER_01: before I even knew what scrying was.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: Ooh, that's so cool.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: I do that too sometimes.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah, especially once you start practicing, you can find lots of different ways to scry.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: Interpreting the messages or images they get might seem a little bit daunting,
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: but don't worry about that so much.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: It's really a combination of your own intuition and feelings and some symbolism added in.
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: Your higher self knows what it's saying to you.
- 6:06SPEAKER_01: Your job is just to let it all through.
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: Like when I'm practicing animal communication,
- 6:10SPEAKER_01: I like to think of myself as sort of a clear tube that's just there to allow
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: the messages to come through as easily as possible.
- 6:18SPEAKER_01: And that's also an image that you can use if you need to.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: When you said that,
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: I thought about Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: when Augustus Gloop got stuck in the tube.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: So anyways, so there's that.
- 6:30SPEAKER_01: You can think about that too.
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: Just think about Augustus Gloop.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just think about that.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: But seriously,
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: if you need to,
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: you can look up specific symbols or omens after you're done in
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: that mental scrying state.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Especially for things like certain types of birds you can't think of or name of or
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: if you don't remember the general symbolism of a color that comes through,
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: no biggie, you can just look it up.
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: Then you just put it all together like a little puzzle.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: The message is from yourself to you,
- 6:58SPEAKER_01: so it will make sense even if it takes a little bit of time to get there.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like dream interpretation in a way,
- 7:04SPEAKER_01: so some things may not make sense for a while until you encounter the right point in
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: the future.
- 7:09SPEAKER_01: And this will also get better the more you practice.
- 7:12SPEAKER_00: Yes, it will.
- 7:13SPEAKER_00: You'll learn to trust yourself and what comes through.
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: And if you're scrying for someone else, please consider what boundaries you'd like to have.
- 7:20SPEAKER_00: If you are in their place,
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: don't scry for anyone else without their consent or share information
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: or messages you get about someone else with anyone but them.
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about ending the scrying session.
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: Some people don't do anything at the end of their scrying sessions,
- 7:35SPEAKER_01: but I like to do some grounding exercise before I move on to other things if I can.
- 7:39SPEAKER_01: I'm an air sign, so it can be really easy for me to float off into the clouds.
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: I'm already halfway there.
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: No comment.
- 7:48SPEAKER_01: Well, let me
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: ground that back into reality.
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: Think about how people come back into their bodies at the end of meditation, if that's helpful.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: It can kind of be as simple as closing your eyes, paying attention to your feet on the ground.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: I also like to tap my body if I tap my hands, my shoulders.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: Wiggle my toes.
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: But you can also imagine roots growing through the bottom of your feet to the floor
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: and to the earth.
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can slowly and intentionally focus on the environment around you,
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: what you see, hear, smell, or even touch.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: I, like Lauren,
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: also like to focus on parts of my body and pay attention
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: to how they feel individually to help me back into the physical realm.
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: On that same token,
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: you can also stand up and move your body around in whatever way feels best for you
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: to shake off that trance.
- 8:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just jump about.
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: Get the body moving.
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: Whatever works.
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 8:48SPEAKER_00: Well, in closing, scrying is kind of like any other form of divination.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: It's the way to make it easier for your higher self to communicate with you.
- 8:56SPEAKER_00: It's receiving messages from your inner knowing and intuition.
- 9:00SPEAKER_00: So use whatever tools and methods feel the best for you personally.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: Try different things to see what works and what doesn't work for you.
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: It's very individual and it should feel good to make your practice unique to you.
- 9:12SPEAKER_01: And just like with any skill, you'll get better at it as you practice.
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: Before we leave today, we're going to pull a card.
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: Today, we were called to use the Spirit Allies Oracle by Jill Pyle and Sydney Besher.
- 9:35SPEAKER_01: As a friendly reminder, please take what resonates with you and leave the rest.
- 9:39SPEAKER_00: All right, Mithlings, we're going to shuffle this up and see who pops on out.
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: I like the feel of these cards, too.
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: They have a nice hand feel.
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like the matte finish.
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: It feels good on my hands.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: We've got Wolf.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: And she's got like a purpley spirally.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: It's the end of her tail.
- 10:15SPEAKER_01: It like turns into I am.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: Like a mystical boa around her neck.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: And it looks sparkly too.
- 10:24SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, it's like a galactic boa of sorts.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: And she says...
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Think for a moment about the people that mean the most to you,
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: whether that's family, friends, or a romantic partner.
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: Wolf is the embodiment of what is meant to stay connected with people who love and care for you.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: Even if you prefer being alone, remember that you are not truly ever alone.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: The universe cares and loves for you, just like your own pack.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: Reach out to the ones you love and remind them how much you love them in return.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: Sometimes there is nothing better than catching up with a close friend and sharing
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: the wisdom you've gathered.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: There is always something to learn from sharing experiences.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: And there's a journal prompt that goes along with this,
- 11:27SPEAKER_00: which is, Who do I consider to be a part of my pack?
- 11:33SPEAKER_01: That's a warm, fuzzy message.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 11:35SPEAKER_01: It's really sweet, you know.
- 11:38SPEAKER_01: And I really like the background color of the card, too.
- 11:40SPEAKER_01: It's a really nice, cozy purple.
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like a, you know, like a disco kind of amethyst.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: It's like a little bit darker than lilac.
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 11:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 12:00SPEAKER_00: And I love the message about us kind of leading with love and being connected,
- 12:03SPEAKER_00: especially in these times we're living in.
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 12:07SPEAKER_01: Find your people.
- 12:08SPEAKER_01: Find your people.
- 12:08SPEAKER_01: Be with them.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: And we're here for you.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: I'll be sure to post a picture of this card on the socials, which is Mystic Spiral Podcast.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: If you listened to this and felt the pull to try out scrying, let us know about it.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: We love to hear about the things our mythlings blend into their own worlds.
- 12:29SPEAKER_01: And next Wednesday on the Mystic Spiral, we'll be talking about magical febreze.
- 12:34SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk about cleansing.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: Until then, mythlings, keep listening and keep your magic soft and steady.
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: Bye for now.