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- 0:00What we noted in diabetics who are on metformin compared to
- 0:03those who are using other drugs, they both had blood sugar
- 0:06lowering value, but the folks on metformin had benefit above and
- 0:10beyond that, lower incidence of heart attacks, lower incidence
- 0:14of cancer, better metabolic markers, a decrease in body
- 0:19weight, reduction in percent body fat.
- 0:21What was going on and might this be extrapolated toward others
- 0:26such that we could use it even though we're not diabetics?
- 0:31Question. Is metformin the first anti
- 0:35aging drug? Well, some people think so.
- 0:39Metformin is a drug use for diabetics.
- 0:42It was FDA approved in 1995. Initially there was a lot of
- 0:46concern about its potential to do harm, kidney damage because
- 0:50of other drugs that were similar to it.
- 0:52Turns out it's extraordinarily safe.
- 0:54So the drugs been around now for what, over 30 years?
- 0:58I remember when it came out of him prescribing it that long.
- 1:01Wonderful drug for diabetics. But what about anti aging and
- 1:04why do we think it might help people live longer and have anti
- 1:08aging attributes? Because that's what's been seen
- 1:12in diabetics. What we noted in diabetics who
- 1:14were on metformin compared to those who are using other drugs,
- 1:18they both had blood sugar lowering value, but the folks on
- 1:21metformin had benefit above and beyond that.
- 1:24A lower incidence of heart attacks, lower incidence of
- 1:28cancer, better metabolic markers, a decrease in body
- 1:32weight, reduction in percent body fat.
- 1:34What was going on? And might this be extrapolated
- 1:38toward others such that we could use it even though we're not?
- 1:42Now, some of you are jumping on that train.
- 1:45I get it. It kind of makes sense.
- 1:47We need to do anti aging therapy before we have proof that it's
- 1:51going to work. Humans live a long time.
- 1:54That type of proof takes decades.
- 1:56We don't have that time. So we're stuck between two
- 2:00spots, right? You don't want to jump in too
- 2:02soon. It's something that's unproven
- 2:04or harmful and you don't want to wait.
- 2:06You know, recently the black box warning on testosterone has been
- 2:10removed and that oh what, 20 years?
- 2:13We've known for that long that testosterone and hormone therapy
- 2:17does not increase cancer risk, does not increase heart disease
- 2:20risk. The point is that it takes
- 2:22conventional medicine 20 years to catch up to where we live in
- 2:27the here and now. Anti aging.
- 2:29Why not? Why is aging not being attacked
- 2:32as a pathological process that can be altered?
- 2:35I get it. Chronologically, you can't
- 2:37change the number. We must die at some point.
- 2:40But all the things we associate with aging are modifiable.
- 2:44So let's go back to metformin. What's going on with metformin?
- 2:48Well, there are several things that recommend it.
- 2:50On a cellular level, it enhances the AMPK pathway.
- 2:56Adenosine monophosphate activated protein kinase
- 3:00pathway. AMPK.
- 3:02What does that mean? It's the pathway that the cell
- 3:05utilizes. When it needs energy, it flips
- 3:09the mechanisms of the cellular activity into a catabolic
- 3:13process, not focusing on growth, focusing on energizing.
- 3:18The other side of that coin is the M Tor pathway.
- 3:21Meth, kinetic target of rapamycin.
- 3:24M Tor is anabolic, pushes cell growth and division.
- 3:27AMPK energizes but blunts the M Tor effect that has a net
- 3:33positive effect on cellular health.
- 3:36Too much M Tor pushes cells into aggressive reproduction and
- 3:41senescence. This happens as we get older, M
- 3:44Tor becomes more dominant. So having an AMPK to kind of
- 3:48balance that, you need both, right?
- 3:50You got to have energy, but you also want to grow the cell.
- 3:53But you want to grow too much because then it becomes
- 3:55senescent, kind of grungy, grungy cells, not good.
- 3:58And it can increase the risk of cancer.
- 4:01So that may be the cellular mechanism.
- 4:04How cool is that? Now we're getting down to
- 4:06cellular anti aging. That's where it's at.
- 4:09Maybe the metformin has something to offer us, but
- 4:13there's more to the story. The other thing metformin can
- 4:15do, it can lower blood sugar. Sugar is after all, an essential
- 4:21element. It's what the cells live on.
- 4:23But too much sugar, pro inflammatory, carcinogenic,
- 4:27atherosclerotic. How much is too much?
- 4:30It's hard to know, right? It's hard to know because blood
- 4:32sugar moves around so much, but the hemoglobin A1C, that's the
- 4:37number you should know. A lot of people know their
- 4:39cholesterol. Maybe you know your weight.
- 4:42You should know your percent body fat.
- 4:43If you're a man, you want to be below 20, a woman below 30,
- 4:46ballpark numbers. How about your A1C, the sweet
- 4:49spot? So an A1C is a three month
- 4:52average of what your blood sugar is.
- 4:54They measure it with a blood test.
- 4:56Now, after three months, it'll gradually shift.
- 5:00But three month intervals, why? That's how long red blood cells
- 5:03live for and hemoglobin the heme, if you will, as that red
- 5:07blood cell attracts sugar to it. Think of it like a glazed
- 5:11doughnut. More sugar in the broth, more
- 5:14glazing on the doughnut. That's your hemoglobin A1C on
- 5:17the red blood cell. All right, So what does the
- 5:19number mean? The higher the number, the worse
- 5:22it is for you in general, but there are some thresholds worth
- 5:25note. Worth noting between 5.0 and 5.4
- 5:29is the sweet spot. That's where there's the
- 5:32greatest longevity and the least amount of chronic disease
- 5:35states. 5.0 to 5.4. How about if it's higher than
- 5:40that? It creeps up.
- 5:42A threshold of about 5.7 is worth being mindful about.
- 5:46If you go above 5.7, there's an increase across the board.
- 5:50Cancer, heart disease, dementia, shortening lifespan, all of it.
- 5:55So that's not good. You get all the way up to 6.46
- 5:59point 4 and now you're a diabetic.
- 6:01Getting that number down can be helpful.
- 6:03How about if it goes too low? It depends on who you are.
- 6:06If you're an otherwise healthy, strapping, robust human and your
- 6:09hemoglobin A1C is 4.8, that's not a problem.
- 6:12If you're sickly weak, if you eat poorly, if you have chronic
- 6:17illness and it's below 5.0, that could be a red flag.
- 6:21So universally 5.0 to 5.4. Whatever intervention you do,
- 6:26whether it's metformin, whether it's exercise, whether it's
- 6:29nutritional modification, check it at three month intervals.
- 6:32Keep yourself in that sweet spot.
- 6:34So blood sugar correlates with some of the benefit and PK
- 6:37pathway may have something to do with it.
- 6:39We also know the metformin reduces inflammatory mediators.
- 6:43That's a good thing. What about aging?
- 6:45What about life extension? Well, there's a trial that's
- 6:48been designed and it's currently in its formative stage.
- 6:52It's called the TAME trial. The trial to it's targeted
- 6:57targeting aging with metformin. TAME TAMEI swear they come up
- 7:02with the acronym first, then the study.
- 7:04So the goal of the study is to determine can metformin affect
- 7:08some of the biomarkers and some of the known consequences of
- 7:13aging? Can it actually extend life?
- 7:15Well, it's easier to judge its effect on chronic illnesses than
- 7:19on life extension. That's a tough one.
- 7:22I mean, if you're destined to live to be 60 and you do anti
- 7:25aging and you live to be 65, you never knew that you were
- 7:29destined to die at 60 because you made it to 65, which you're
- 7:32still thinking that's kind of short and it is My point is that
- 7:35we will never know exactly. Therefore you have to make your
- 7:39decisions with the best information at hand.
- 7:42Metformin, nice drug, but there's some caveats in 65 year
- 7:47old men, metformin was shown to interfere with muscle growth
- 7:51when they did strength training. Well, that kind of makes sense
- 7:53when you think about how it works, right?
- 7:55Activates the blood sugar dynamic, the energy building
- 7:59dynamic, if you will, blunting the growth dynamic.
- 8:02So in a vacuum, old other men weightlifting on metformin,
- 8:07little bit less muscle development.
- 8:09Those men, however, were not on testosterone.
- 8:12In my world, everybody's on it. If you're a man in your past 60,
- 8:16absolutely. If you're a woman, you're past
- 8:1850. Yes.
- 8:19Let's set that aside though. We know that metformin also
- 8:22improved biomarkers of aging. Well, that's kind of cool.
- 8:25However, because of its uncertain value regarding
- 8:29longevity and because of its research based evidence
- 8:34primarily happening in people that have metabolic syndrome, I
- 8:38believe that metformin has value in people that are at risk, but
- 8:43not for people who are lean, fit and athletic and healthy.
- 8:46If you are a little overweight, if your blood sugar is greater
- 8:49than the hemoglobin A1C is greater than 5.7, if you are in
- 8:54fact a diabetic, if you are elevated triglycerides and
- 8:58cholesterol, and if you're somebody that doesn't have a
- 9:02nutritional lifestyle that is optimized, metformin is for you.
- 9:06It helps reduce some of the consequences that your genetic
- 9:11endowment and your lifestyle have imposed on you.
- 9:14I mean, some people have high triglycerides, no fault of their
- 9:17own, have high sugar, no fault of their own, struggle with
- 9:20their weight, right? Metabolic genetic metformin,
- 9:24great drug, lowers percent body fat, lowers blood sugar,
- 9:27extraordinarily safe. Be cautious.
- 9:29There are some drug interactions.
- 9:31Do not do this on your own people.
- 9:33I know you can get everything online now, literally
- 9:36everything, but it would be a fool who tries to be his own
- 9:39doctor or nurse practitioner. Find somebody you can work with.
- 9:42This is generic cheap drug, but it's not benign.
- 9:45It can interact with other drugs.
- 9:46So I like it for certain people. For anti aging.
- 9:49I do not think it's a universal anti aging benefit if you have
- 9:53cancer. It's a different calculation
- 9:56because metformin has some unique anti cancer attributes
- 10:00that may be worth applying even if you're otherwise lean and
- 10:03fit. Now side effects of metformin,
- 10:06sour stomach diarrhea, those can be problematic.
- 10:10Some people just can't take it. If you take a drug that's
- 10:12supposed to be preventative life extending or enhancing your
- 10:17health and it makes you unwell, just stop.
- 10:19That goes for supplements as well.
- 10:21Your body's telling you something.
- 10:22If you can't tolerate metformin, what about berberine?
- 10:25Berberine is a natural herbal supplement been used for
- 10:28thousands of years to help control blood sugar and for
- 10:31other purposes. Yes, it does lower blood sugar
- 10:34almost as good as metformin, but they work through different
- 10:37mechanisms Metformin is more effective in the liver, in the
- 10:40muscle, a little more potent lowering blood sugar.
- 10:43Berberine works more in the gastrointestinal tract,
- 10:46enhancing microbiota nice agent if you're struggling with your
- 10:50sugar correlates with some weight loss, that's a good
- 10:53thing. So if you're the metabolic
- 10:54profile person and you can't take metformin, berberine is
- 10:58Next up. How about combining them?
- 11:00Yeah, you could do that. You'll get even better blood
- 11:02sugar lowering effect if that's a concern.
- 11:05Remember, there's such a thing as too low.
- 11:08Although these drugs can't push you into a danger zone, maybe
- 11:11make you feel a little bit weak, but they're not going to make
- 11:13you pass out. So metformin for anti aging
- 11:16patient dependent. If you're a metabolic syndrome,
- 11:19high triglyceride, overweight family history, you've got
- 11:23elevated blood pressure, elevated blood sugar, hemoglobin
- 11:26A1C greater than 5.7. It's a great play for the rest
- 11:29of you Otherwise fit, healthy eating well, there are better
- 11:33things you can do. We'll be talking about those
- 11:35down the road. Anti aging.
- 11:36Why not? Neutralizing the adverse effect
- 11:39of the aging process. Yeah, we can do that, right,
- 11:42gang? Thanks for your attention, your
- 11:44time. Be talking to you soon.
- 11:45Bye now. None.