Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / The Pam Bondi Congressional Oversight Committee Epstein Related Transcript (Part 8) (6/8/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06where he left off with the Pam Bondi discussion with
- 0:10the OIG investigators. Now Miss Ansorry is asking the questions. Hi,
- 0:16Miss Bondi, thank you all right. I would like to
- 0:18focus questions on failure to comply with the Oversight Committee subpoena.
- 0:22On August fifth of last year, Chairman Comer issued a
- 0:25subpoena to the DOJ for all documents and communications from
- 0:29DJs Epstein and Maxwell related cases. On August twenty second
- 0:34of last year, DOJ produced approximately thirty three thousand pages
- 0:38to the Committee. Almost all of those materials were already
- 0:41publicly available, and that's all that we have received from
- 0:45the DOJ in the ten months since the subpoena was issued.
- 0:49Why was the first production in August made of mostly
- 0:52and all publicly available material Bondy, as I said earlier,
- 0:56Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward managed the release of those documents,
- 1:01and since then the Department received and released approximately three
- 1:05million documents, Miss Ansorry, But did anyone in the administration
- 1:10direct you to release material that were already publicly available
- 1:13pertaining specifically to the subpoena. Dylan, I think we're having
- 1:17some difficulty hearing you. Bondy, Yeah and sorry. Okay. The
- 1:21question in regards to our subpoena before prior to the
- 1:24Epstein Files Transparency Act, Bondy, I have to turn. I
- 1:29can't turn my neck, so I have to turn towards you.
- 1:31If that's okay, Miss ansorry. So the question is, did
- 1:35anyone in the administration direct you to release only public
- 1:39available information in those thirty three thousand pages? Bondy, as
- 1:43I said, Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward handled that, Miss
- 1:48an Sorry, I understand that, but Bondie cuts her off.
- 1:51I had minimum involvement in that and sorry. Buddy works
- 1:54for you. Bondy, Yes and sorry. Did someone direct you
- 1:58to only release publicly of vallible information in regard to
- 2:02our subpoena to the Department of Justice? Bondi, No and sorry. Okay, Bondie,
- 2:07to my knowledge, no and sorry. Do you believe that
- 2:10the Department is obligated to respond to the Overside Committee subpoena? Bondi,
- 2:14Yes and sorry. In November of twenty twenty five, President
- 2:18Trump posted on truth Social about the Committee subpoena, saying quote,
- 2:23the House Overside Committee can have whatever they are legally
- 2:25entitled to. Do you agree with President Trump? Bondie? Can
- 2:29you repeat that? And sorry? In November of twenty twenty five,
- 2:33President Trump posted on truth Social about the Committee subpoena,
- 2:37saying quote, the House Overside Committee can have whatever they
- 2:40are legally entitled to. Do you agree with the President, Bondie?
- 2:44I agree that you're entitled to everything you're legally entitled to.
- 2:47Yes and sorry? Okay? And then finally, does the committee
- 2:51need to bring you in for a deposition instead of
- 2:53a transcribed interview to get complete answers? Bondy, No, and sorry, Okay,
- 2:58thank you we have, mister Submerannium. Thank you for coming
- 3:02in today. I was just curious if you went through
- 3:05any of the files yourself, Like, did you read through
- 3:07any of the files yourself? BONDI some of them, probably, sure,
- 3:11some of them. But there were three million pages, so
- 3:13very little Submarennium, right, and you were looking for anything
- 3:18in particular in the files, Bondy no, mister Submarannium. And
- 3:23there's rumors of an effort potentially to look through the files,
- 3:26for President Trump's name, in particular, are you aware of
- 3:29any sort of effort at the Department of Justice anywhere
- 3:32else in the administration of doing that, Bondy, I'm not
- 3:37going to discuss anything with the Department or discussions that
- 3:39did or did not take place. Question. I'm asking about
- 3:42your knowledge of any sort of effort to do that,
- 3:45not any sort of discussions that happened, Bondi. I'm not
- 3:48going to discuss any conversations that did or did not happen.
- 3:52Regarding that question, I'm not asking about conversations, just to
- 3:56be clear, just your knowledge of any effort to look
- 3:59for President Trump's name during the redaction process or during
- 4:02the release of the files, BONDI. What I do know
- 4:05is you can go online. That's why I'm hesitating, and
- 4:08there are three million pages, and I believe you can
- 4:11type in a name and it'll come up. So I'm
- 4:13sure many people did that, with many individuals, and I
- 4:16believe members of Congress names are also listed in there.
- 4:19So to my knowledge, did that happen, Yes, but not
- 4:22only with President Trump, with multiple people, by many of us,
- 4:25as you will, that was done question. Absolutely, You're right.
- 4:30But what I'm asking though, is before the release of
- 4:32the files, during the process or releasing the files, was
- 4:35there any effort to look through for President Trump's name
- 4:38or any other administration officials name before the release of
- 4:41the files? Bondy, I don't recall question. And are you
- 4:45aware of any effort to do that? You don't recall, Bondi,
- 4:48I don't recall question, okay, And you suggested he gets
- 4:51cut off by BONDI again, there were three million pages. Question,
- 4:56it's not about what's in the files. I'm asking any
- 4:59effort to look for President Trump or any other administration
- 5:02officials name in the files, up to the release of
- 5:05the files and in the process of releasing the files, Bondy,
- 5:09I don't recall, Submaranian, you don't recall, okay. And then
- 5:12at various points you suggested that the DOJ holds a
- 5:16significant volume of child sexual abuse material within the Epstein files.
- 5:21Can you clarify what that means, what you meant by that, BONDI. Sure,
- 5:25it's called c SAM and that is protected, as you
- 5:27know under the law, highly protected child sexual abuse material.
- 5:32And yes, I'm aware of that, and I'm aware that
- 5:34there was much of that contained in the Epstein files.
- 5:38Question and would you say that some of the files
- 5:40that would have been withheld are those types of materials? Bondy,
- 5:44to my knowledge yes, question okay. And last month, mister
- 5:48Blanche set on a podcast that quote, the FBI did
- 5:51not collect any video of mister Epstein or others participating
- 5:54in sex acts. Would you agree with that statement? Answer?
- 5:58I don't have direct knowledge of that, but I do
- 6:00know that initially when all those videos were obtained, they
- 6:03were scoured through by attorneys and probably agents to be
- 6:06sure no victims were released, and much of it, if
- 6:09not all, of it ended up being child sexual abuse
- 6:11material that he downloaded. If that makes sense. Question, that
- 6:16makes sense. Thank you. That's very helpful. And you have
- 6:19spoken and have you spoken with any of the survivors, Dylan,
- 6:22you can answer this, but you can answer it again, Bondy.
- 6:25I spoke with one attorney, I believe. Question one of
- 6:29their attorneys. Bondi, I spoke with one of their attorneys,
- 6:33I believe. I know attorneys in my office have spoken
- 6:35with multiple attorneys who represented or represent the survivors, And
- 6:39as you know, it's not appropriate for us to talk
- 6:42to someone who is represented directly without talking to their attorney.
- 6:45I've spoke with one of the attorneys. Question, were they
- 6:49or their attorneys at all consulted in the process or
- 6:52release in the files? Bondy, I don't know. I don't recall. Question.
- 6:56You don't recall. And at one point there was talk
- 6:59about given the survivors access to their own files or
- 7:02statements that they made. Was there any discussion about that
- 7:05or sorry? Do you have any knowledge of any sort
- 7:07of or understanding of any sort of effort to do that, Bondy?
- 7:11Can you repeat that question? The survivors have asked for
- 7:15their own files, meaning statements that they gave at the
- 7:18time that they were interviewed. Do you have any awareness
- 7:21of this request, Bondy, I would direct that to the
- 7:23current attorney general. Question, but while you were attorney general, Bondi,
- 7:28I don't recall question. I believe they made that request.
- 7:32You don't recall them requesting that publicly or directly, Bondy
- 7:35access to the files? Question? Yes, Bondi, meaning question, they
- 7:40have asked for their own statements. There are three or
- 7:42two statements, and so they have said that they requested this.
- 7:46I believe it was a public letter too, And I'm
- 7:48wondering if you would have any knowledge of that request. BONDI,
- 7:51I don't recall. I would direct that to Deputy Attorney
- 7:54General Blanche. Question, in your opinion, would you have been
- 7:58willing to fulfill this request? We have asked multiple times
- 8:02if any victim wants to meet with us, that we
- 8:04would meet with them and that would include that information,
- 8:07to give them that information to discuss it with them
- 8:10in my mind. Question great, and then I believe you
- 8:13answered this earlier. But based on everything you've seen, do
- 8:16you believe that the Department should move forward with any
- 8:19effort or prosecution related to the matter. Bondi, As I said,
- 8:23we had Jay Clayton in the Southern District of New
- 8:26York open an active case on the matter around Jeffrey
- 8:28Epstein and other individuals when I left office. I believe
- 8:32that was still a pending investigation, so I can't answer.
- 8:35I would direct that to Todd Blanche or Jay Clayton. Question.
- 8:40Thank you, mister Frost, thank you. I just have one
- 8:43more question for clarification. In response to one of the
- 8:46questions he just asked about people name searching Donald Trump,
- 8:50you mentioned that maybe he was name searched or members
- 8:52of Congress had been name searched. But then you looked
- 8:55at us and said, y'all, which leads me to believe
- 8:57I just want clarification. Are you saying that you know
- 9:01that members of Congress search for President Trump's name or
- 9:04search for people's names in the files? Miss BONDI can
- 9:07you repeat that? Frost? So, when he asked you about
- 9:10was there an effort to search for President Trump's names
- 9:13in the file, you started talking about the fact that, well,
- 9:16people can go online and look up anybody's name. You
- 9:18can look up the President's name. There's members of Congress
- 9:21names in it. Then you looked at us and said,
- 9:23y'all have searched this as well. And I just when
- 9:27you said that, did you mean members of Congress have
- 9:29searched for President Trump's name in the files? BONDI, anyone
- 9:32ken it's public, Frost. But by the thing you just
- 9:36told us a little earlier, it seemed like you of
- 9:38knowledge of members of Congress name searching President Trump's name. BONDY, oh, no,
- 9:44that I don't have knowledge of. I don't recall that.
- 9:46But anyone can go in and search for any name
- 9:48on there, and hopefully the system's working where it will
- 9:51pull it up, mister Frost. The reason I asked this
- 9:55is because they were reporting of when you were testifying
- 9:57to the Judiciary Committee that you had in information on
- 10:00our search history from when we went to the Department
- 10:03of Justice. Was that something that you were being told
- 10:05to keep. Were you told to keep that information? The
- 10:08spying on members of Congress as they were looking through
- 10:11the Epstein files, Bondy, No one told me to spy
- 10:14on members of Congress, Frost, So is that a decision
- 10:16you made on your own, Bondie. Members of Congress were
- 10:19not spied on. That system downloads anyone who looks at it,
- 10:23because there are millions of pages of unredacted victims' names.
- 10:26There faces names, information that's not public, that's built into
- 10:31the program. In fact, when you go and review it,
- 10:34if we also have had I don't know if it's
- 10:36still happening. People in the room watching what was happening
- 10:39to be sure no one was walking out with unredacted
- 10:41victims' names on a list, and in fact they did
- 10:45find someone doing that. Frost. I'm aware that's how the
- 10:48system might work, but obviously you know, I'm trying to
- 10:50ask if someone asked you to or why you had
- 10:54printouts of it in your hearing at Judiciary Committee BONDI
- 10:58oh a stafford gave me that lower level staffer gave
- 11:01me a print out, and I intended to talk to
- 11:03Representative Jayapel when she was questioning me about it. No
- 11:06one was trying to hide it. I went and I
- 11:08met with her for about an hour and a half
- 11:10after the hearing as well in person in my office,
- 11:13and I planned on discussing with that with her, but
- 11:16I couldn't get a word in edgewise on that. And
- 11:19the point of that was to show her that we
- 11:21had been a lot of talk about our particular graphic.
- 11:24I believed it was it was a circle. There had
- 11:27been a lot of talk that we were trying to
- 11:28hide men's names because the half a graphic showed a
- 11:31man and the other half was redacted, when in fact,
- 11:33once anyone went online and saw the unredacted version, you
- 11:37could see that those were women and victims. That's why
- 11:40they had been redacted. Mister Frost, uh huh. Thank you.
- 11:44All right, folks, who are going to wrap up right
- 11:45there and in the next episode dealing with the topic,
- 11:47We're going to pick up where we left off. All
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