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Wild Card Preview · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes it.
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  All starts. Right now.
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  Welcome back to the three O take presented by Sea Kick.
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  This episode 472. I'll be your host Kyle Korner.
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  I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes and Nate. 2024 regular
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  season has come to an end. It's postseason season.
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  Can I say that? Is that cool?
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  Postseason season sounds good to me.
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  No, put the regular. Season like I want you to spell
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  out SEASON and then I want you to season.
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  SZEN right, like postseason season, postseason season.
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  How do you feel about that? I love it.
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  I'm glad the regular season is over now.
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  I actually went back and listened to a little bit of our
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  episode this exact time last year and one of the one of the
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  comments I made, I think like right off the top and it I feel
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  like it's this, I'm kind of in the same boat this year is.
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  I said how I was glad that we finally got to a point, which
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  it's the case for every time the postseason comes around.
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  But you you shed the dead weight.
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  I said of like the of these teams that were crawl into the
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  finish line or the teams that were just so atrociously bad
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  that we just got tired of talking about it.
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  All of the White Sox. Like, I'm just glad we don't
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  have to talk about those things anymore.
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  The teams that are in are in and we no longer have to really
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  address the teams that did not have the fortune of making it
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  in. So I'm just glad we can talk
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  about good competitive baseball. And I tell you what, the Mets
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  and the Braves gave us a little little early taste of some post
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  season baseball today. Sure did.
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  But I know you and I have some some thoughts on that.
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  Yeah. Do we just want to get into
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  that? Because I feel like we can't
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  really, we can't really jump into the wild card preview until
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  we get this, what feels like a game 163.
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  In reality, it was just game 161 and 162, I guess, which this
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  this bonus day of baseball, I guess you could say one that we
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  weren't really expecting. One, I might add, to put put my
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  little tinfoil hat on. I might be on on board with the
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  idea that Major League Baseball wanted it to happen this way.
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  I'm not going to sit here and say that they were.
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  They were trying to get overly cute with the whole hurricane
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  situation, but I think they were pretty pleased with with the way
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  things panned out today. All things considered, that's
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  all I'll say. I think they were very happy.
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  I think, I mean, it's, it's almost like free revenue today.
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  I'm, I want to look, I'm trying to get everything mapped out of
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  my head here. So they haven't played.
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  It was because of the Brewer series that screwed everything
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  up. While you're looking at while
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  you're looking up, whatever you're looking up, I will.
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  I will add that this this Mets Braves doubleheader today really
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  messed with my ability to kind of get in the headspace for
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  what's ahead of us this week. Because like, you didn't get the
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  chance to have a day to reset to be like, OK, what do we got
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  ahead of us now? You, us casual baseball fans,
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  Mets fans, Braves fans, Diamondback fans were all just
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  sitting around today going, OK, so what's the deal?
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  And they were talking about on the broadcast, they said, you
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  know, the Diamondbacks were Diamondbacks were just hanging
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  out for game one. But Game 2 is where they're
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  like, OK, time to become a fan of whoever.
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  Which a weird situation, but it made for it made for some fun
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  baseball. I think it made for fun.
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  Game one, Game 2 was, that's fair.
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  Good clarification was it was like so predictable, so obvious.
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  The only thing, and I think this was more of like a narrative of
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  the fans than any anything else. But it was like the only thing
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  is like, hey, you guys are division rivals and you hate
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  each other. Maybe, maybe, maybe we try to
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  take both. Maybe that's the mentality we
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  have. Maybe we just don't need to
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  sneak in. How about we ruin the team that
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  we hate? Why not?
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  Why not? I think, I think I hate that
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  there's hindsight. I hate that you have the chance
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  to take a game off and that's that's 100% what it is.
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  And I'm not sitting here like I don't like, I don't like saying
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  it's unfair to the Diamondbacks because like the Diamondbacks
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  had opportunities. I think they blew like an 8, an
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  8 run game, an 8 run lead over the week.
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  So it's like they absolutely had their opportunities to not be in
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  this position. But at the same time, like I I
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  think it sucks. You can't really blame either
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  team with going about it. Whoever wins the first game
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  isn't going to burn a ton of stuff the next game.
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  There's no pressure to win that second one.
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  And I, I don't like it. I don't I don't like the way
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  this whole thing played out. It was very odd, very strange.
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  I. Well, let me ask.
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  You this game two Game 1 was awesome.
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  Game 2 sucked. I would have.
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  I would have rather watch paint dry than watch Game 2.
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  That was a joke percentage. If you had to put a percentage
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  to it, and we were talking about this before we hopped on.
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  What are the odds that there was a conversation that went down
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  between snicker and Mendoza being like, hey, let's just
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  shoot for a draw here or not a draw a split.
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  And we'll we'll go about our ways and maybe we'll see you
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  guys down the road versus them. Just the Mets just not having it
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  in Game 2. I don't know what like what,
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  what percentage odds you think that took place?
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  I don't know. I don't know.
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  I'll give it 25% I think. Because it's it's easy to sit
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  there and go, yeah, division rivals, we hate, we hate these
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  guys, yadda yadda, yadda. But.
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  That's what I'm saying. It's like a it's like a fan
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  narrative more than anything else of like let's go take two.
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  Like if you're a Met fan, you imagine ending the Braves season
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  in truest. Like I I think that's the dream
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  scenario for any Met fan. Same for a Brave fan.
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  Let's win 2 at home and send the Mets packing.
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  It just didn't give me the game. Like you said, like Game 163 is
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  mean a ton. Like it gives you something that
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  to fight for and it's like everyone's locked in.
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  Game 2 was almost like, what's the point?
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  No, it wasn't game 163. It's Game 161.
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  That's what I'm saying. Like it felt like that game's
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  160. Three.
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  Yeah, yeah. Like we had that with 161, we
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  had it with game one. We got, we got that 163 feel.
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  I don't know man, I just, I just strange what's?
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  Crazy. What's crazy though is is the
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  second game and I'm still It's just the way things lined up I
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  guess. But Game 2 was the only one that
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  really mattered, and that was the snooze fest.
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  Like game one, you're like, OK, Mets punch their ticket.
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  And then game two, you're like, well, this is what really
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  determines who else is sneaking in here.
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  And it's like, well, it's just a lay, a snooze fest, a lay down
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  of a game. I don't know, not all that
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  important, but. Call me crazy here and I don't
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  know how much. You're crazy.
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  How in inefficient or unrealistic it would have been?
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  But like, why couldn't you have made the Mets?
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  I think it was who played the Brewers, The Mets over the
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  weekend. I think the Mets played the
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  Brewers. Why don't you make Saturday a
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  doubleheader, get out of Milwaukee and then make Sunday
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  the doubleheader with the Braves and then you have this day.
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  I the biggest thing is that both of these teams are going to go
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  play tomorrow and that day off like maybe doesn't sound like a
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  big deal, but like for lining up, we're going to talk
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  pitching. And it's like there's a lot of
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  question marks around a lot of these Staffs that that's what
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  this does. So like, I, I don't know, maybe
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  you could have like squeezed in the Brit, the Brewers Series A
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  little bit quicker, snuck it out on on Sunday.
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  I don't know. And then you you have less of
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  this hindsight thing because now you're playing while the
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  Diamondbacks are playing on Sunday and there's a little less
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  like predictable outcome. I think everyone in their mom
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  knew this was going to be a split.
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  We were hoping for a sweep, but I think everyone knew it was a
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  split. Yeah, I hate to say it.
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  I think we saw, I think we saw a split coming.
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  But if you put it on Sunday and things are like, there's still
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  other things that other chips that need to fall.
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  I, I, I feel for the Diamondbacks.
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  I think it kind of sucks. Like it's, it's weird.
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  I'm sorry, Like like ball player to ball player.
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  Yeah. I mean, you got to feel for the
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  D backs. Like that definitely sucks.
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  But like the reality of it is and and it's kind of the
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  narrative that's guiding them out the door, if you will.
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  And it's that they they had, they could have taken care of
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  business themselves to where they didn't have to rely on on
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  the Mets taking the second game of A at that point, meaningless
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  doubleheader. So.
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  I. Don't know, I can only feel so
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  bad for the D backs, but alas, here we are.
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  We have a lifeless Braves fan crawling into the to the wild
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  card stage. So we'll see how it goes.
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  I, I know I, I've called them lifeless for the last month now.
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  So I'm, I'm certain that they're going, they're going to go on an
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  NLCNLCS run at this point, but I don't, I don't know what to, I
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  don't know what to make of it. I, I think regarding these two
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  teams, who you and I were texting and with the way that
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  that game one went, which was, as we mentioned, just crazy, you
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  and I were texting. I think you and I were on the
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  same page. Like the Mets were kind of
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  giving off early Team of Destiny vibes, which not really a fan of
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  but you know. Heck of a game though.
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  I mean like. It is what it is it.
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  Got the post season juices flowing.
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  It for sure got the post season a little bit of energy going
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  here. Like I had no no dog in this
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  fight but I'm watching this game.
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  I'm like this is nuts dude. The the 7th inning on was just
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  craziness. And look, I've seen a lot of
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  people complaining about the not so much with this particular
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  game because this was just a A1 off thing, but with the Pope,
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  people talk about the schedule of the upcoming wild card games,
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  talked about how like, why would Major League Baseball go with
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  these playoff games in the middle of the work day?
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  I know this isn't the first time I've said this, but if I have an
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  excuse to just like not really pay attention to work and I can
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  afford to do that and kind of have it on while I'm working, I,
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  I that's like, that's a treat. Give, please give me baseball
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  throughout the entire day. Like I don't, I'm not trying to
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  watch two games at once. Like I, I'm I'm actually a fan
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  of how they set these games up. But yeah, today was along those
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  same lines, sort of the same thing.
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  I'm sitting there watching 2 pretty meaningful baseball games
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  throughout the work day. And I was, I was OK with that.
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  I was OK with that. So the people that are talking
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  about, I don't, I don't like it during the work day.
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  I'm sorry. You might just have to switch
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  jobs. I don't know what to.
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  Talk. That's that's what it's exactly
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  what it is. You've, you know, when you're
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  sitting at a on a chair all day, it changes things.
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  You know, I've recently switched and I'm out and about and.
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  It's not fun. It's not fun if you're a
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  baseball fan in October. It's not fun.
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  It is not fun. Yeah.
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  OK, so Mets Braves bonus day of baseball.
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  Well, not really bonus day, but for all intents and purposes,
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  bonus day of baseball. In the books, we see both of
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  those NL ES teams moving on. Do we want to talk?
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  Let you want to look ahead to the matchups now.
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  I I we're not going to we're not going to talk any craziness
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  about game one at all like any any of the of how things played
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  out the. Roller coaster.
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  I tell you what, man, there's one guy on the Mets that I can't
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  dislike, especially with the year he's had.
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  Jose Iglesias is like. Yeah, I Yep.
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  It's hard to not root for this dude was brought in to just be
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  like a defensive gem is got. I don't even he's got an OPS.
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  That's like over 9 isn't it? It's up there.
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  I mean, for a good portion of the year it was up there.
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  It's on base percentage I think is north of like 34350.
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  Like it's just, it's a cool story man.
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  And like the single to tie it and like it that's, I mean,
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  there's a lot going on this set. Like I think it was mainly just
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  the 8th and the 9th. That's what I think just tying
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  in with what you're saying to like Team of Destiny like that.
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  It feels that way. It feels that way when when you
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  put up six and you feel like you're cruising and you feel
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  good because Edwin Diaz is coming in to lock it down for
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  you and the Braves, like, hold up.
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  Not so fast. Mets put up sixth in the eighth
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  for a lead change. The Braves followed with A4 run
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  bottom of the eighth for another lead change.
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  And then the top of the ninth, Lindor home run, two run lead,
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  lead change. Just I mean.
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  This is hard to argue. It's hard, I hate it.
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  I don't. No, I don't want to.
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  I don't want to continue pushing this narrative.
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  I I just don't. We we threw.
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  It out there to let people know that it was on our minds and
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  that we addressed it. But I'm not going to, I'm not
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  going to I'm not going to continue this narrative.
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  I'm not going to be like the I'm certainly not the trailblazer.
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  I'm not we're we're not that. We're not the first people to
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  throw this out there, but I don't want to contribute to the
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  movement. Is that fair?
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  That's fair. Understandable.
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  John asks, Can you give us a Phillies fan perspective on this
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  game today? I don't know, John.
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  You'll have to ask a Phillies fan, because I'm not a Phillies
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  fan. I had a boy, John.
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  I'm never going to beat these allegations, am I?
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  No. Terrible.
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  Unreal. Unreal.
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  Something tells me it's going to get worse this year too, because
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  they're probably going to go pretty far.
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  So any Who's matchups? Let's suck matchups here.
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  Let's, let's let you know what. Let's stay in the NL here.
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  Let's start. Let's start with the Mets
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  Brewers. I my hold on.
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  Before we get in, before we get it, actually I I had to start
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  earlier before we get into the specifics of these matchups,
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  just looking at the slate that we have before us this week.
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  Is this game won by the way tomorrow?
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  Is that the early game? What?
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  Oh, oh, you're saying like of the site?
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  I'm like, yeah, Nate, these are all game ones.
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  Dude, this post season starts tomorrow.
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  You're saying game one, game one of the.
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  Of the day. The day.
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  No, it's not Tigers. Astros are.
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  That's funny because that's actually the exact order I had
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  it on my sheet. So maybe let's just go.
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  Maybe we do that. Maybe.
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  We do that, maybe we do OK. Either way though, I'm going
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  back to my question looking at looking at the the slight that
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  we've got ahead of us. Give me your two answers for
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  most anticipated series and most lopsided series.
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  Most anticipated and most lopsided.
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  We're looking at the Tigers versus the Stroh's, the Royals
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  versus the O's, the Mets versus the Brewers, and the Braves
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  versus the Padres. I think Royals, Orioles is going
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  to be electric. I really do.
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  I love that we get to see Gunner and Bobby going and going head
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  to head. Bingo.
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  Like that's huge those that's probably the two top shoots
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  shortsops of the future, the pitching for the Royals that is
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  just very much under the radar. You know, an oriole team that
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  like we all see what it is on paper.
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  It's just whether it kind of comes out.
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  But I think that's the one I have my eyes on the most.
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  I'm going to say the most lopsided is is probably the
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  Padres Braves, believe it or not, I think I we don't even
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  know what's happening with the Braves pitching Chris Sale
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  scratch from Game 2 today, Like I they're they're trying to
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  figure out an order. But because of all this
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  craziness, you're, you're looking at like a short turn
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  around for everybody. Max Reed, Reynaldo Lopez threw,
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  I think he threw an inning today in game two.
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  You're probably expecting him Game 2C, Morton game three.
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  Now, like there's so many question marks.
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  The Braves are coming in just I think more beat up than any
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  other team. And the Padres feel really
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  strong over the last month. So I think that I think that's a
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  sweep, honestly. I think that's it.
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  Well, let's get into our predictions just yet.
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  I mean, I I just wanted to. Love sided.
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  Love sided is going to be a sweep, right?
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  So not necessarily. Not necessarily as far as like
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  on the bump, though if you're a fan of pitching scuba and
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  Framber's hard to not be. Yeah, but then after that fully,
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  what do we I mean, that's one game the rest of the series for
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  the Tigers, I think. I know I I mean, we'll we'll
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  touch on it, but I think Hinch talked about just unleashing
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  chaos or something out of the pen for the rest of the series.
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  I'm like. That's not a They got to get
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  creative if they want to stick around.
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  I mean that work, yeah, that works in a three-game series.
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  I don't know about beyond that. I don't know what what what the
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  the Tigers are hoping to do. But with that said, let's let's
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  jump right into that one. Let's look at the Tigers versus
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  the Astros game one. We're looking at Terry Skubal
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  versus Frame Brufaldez, as you mentioned, I mean this.
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  Is the This is the AJ Hinch series?
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  Man, this is the AJ Hinch series back in Houston.
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  Need need we remind you this was a Tigers team that sold at the
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  deadline. Sold at the deadline, Yeah.
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  That the reality is though. How, how much do they wish
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  Flaherty was still around right now, you know?
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  You know, I, that's one of those like hindsight situations.
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  You, you, you never know. And, and I'm not going to sit
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  here and say that they would have that.
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  They're better off not having Flaherty, especially with the
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  year that he's had. But you just really never know
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  the way certain relationships in that clubhouse function.
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  You never know, like the dynamics there.
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  It's it's possible that if Flaherty was on the team, maybe,
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  I don't know, maybe there's A and just some weird twisted way
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  of thinking about it. Maybe there's this element of
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  like, oh, we're actually better than or we think we're we're
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  better than we are because we have a guy like Flaherty backing
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  up a guy like Scooble in the rotation.
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  But maybe they they kind of that by not having Flaherty that
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  enhance the whole underdog mentality that they've been
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  riding for the last two to three months.
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  It seems. So it's really hard to say, but
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  they I think from from an on paper perspective, they
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  certainly would love to have flirty because like we talked
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  about, you've got Scubal and then this.
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  Makes me feel like. I've I don't know man, this
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  might. Be the most lopsided, honestly.
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  No, because, well, I, I, we can't disrespect the, the
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  bullpen that they, that, that the Tigers are bringing to the
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  table. I mean, they've got some,
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  they've got some dudes in the back end.
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  The problem is if you lose that first game, I don't know what
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  you do. I don't think there's any coming
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  back from that situation. If if you can't win game one,
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  granted it's in, it's in Houston and that place we we stayed
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  every year. That is, that is a rowdy post
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  season environment. If you can't, I mean, they're
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  they're all they all are in Houston, obviously, but if you
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  can't come out of there to with a with a win after game one.
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  You imagine how I feel like if you're a Cleveland Guardian fan,
• 21:51
  you got to be rooting so hard for the Tigers.
• 21:55
  Like so hard. Imagine that, dude.
• 21:58
  If the Tigers can bounce the Astros, the Guardians be like
• 22:06
  smooth sailing to the LCS. Yeah, but it's OK.
• 22:11
  But here's the question though. If the Tigers pull out the
• 22:13
  series against the Astros, then are we looking at the at a
• 22:16
  Tigers team as a possible team of destiny?
• 22:20
  Because again, look at the route that they took to get here.
• 22:24
  This team has. It was to.
• 22:25
  Figure out a three-game set. That sure, that's fine, But if
• 22:29
  you look at how they they handled the second-half and they
• 22:32
  were one of the best teams, if not the best team in baseball
• 22:34
  for the last call it two months, 50 games.
• 22:42
  They they obviously have something figured out.
• 22:44
  It's just a matter of can you? Can you capture that, put it in
• 22:47
  a bottle and unleash it in a postseason series?
• 22:51
  That's the question. Are you saying are you, are you,
• 22:54
  are you leaking your predictions here?
• 22:57
  I'm not leaking. I'm not leaking my prediction,
• 23:00
  but I, I, I remember you have to go back like 2-3 years now.
• 23:04
  I've, I, this was the team that I was like, just give them some
• 23:08
  time. It was the same way with the
• 23:10
  Royals, But I, I personally thought that the Tigers were
• 23:13
  going to be the first, the, the first team to do it.
• 23:16
  But the the Royals kind of showed up on the scene a little
• 23:18
  bit sooner, albeit they're both in the in the postseason.
• 23:21
  The Royals seem to be the team that took that that step a
• 23:24
  little bit quicker, a little bit further.
• 23:27
  But I've I've I've been pushing this Tigers Nader for a few
• 23:30
  years now. It just took him a little bit of
• 23:32
  time. So I'm not sitting here going to
• 23:33
  I'm not leaking any predictions. I'm just letting you know that
• 23:37
  like I have a little bit maybe more so than the average fan
• 23:40
  confidence in the Tigers just objectively now pairing them up
• 23:45
  against the Astros in Houston. That's that's a different
• 23:48
  conversation, one of which we're having right now.
• 23:51
  But it's just it's tough. It's it's a tough situation for
• 23:55
  them to to roll into Houston like that.
• 23:57
  But. Has Houston come out with with
• 24:01
  their order rotation wise? We know Framber game one.
• 24:05
  Do we know game two and three? No, I mean, we were talking
• 24:07
  about before we hopped on. I think the Padres and the
• 24:10
  Royals are the only two teams not, or unsurprisingly given the
• 24:15
  the state of their rotations, that have listed out probables
• 24:19
  for all three games. So we don't know what Houston's
• 24:23
  bringing the table. I think Hunter Brown might be in
• 24:25
  line for Game 2 for the Stroh's. When did Kikuchi throw last?
• 24:31
  He threw this. Weekend if I recall.
• 24:38
  Yeah, you got to you got to feel like if you can, if you're the
• 24:41
  Astros, you got to almost save a bullet for game one of the ALDS.
• 24:46
  You know, like if you can, if you can win game one and then
• 24:51
  roll Hunter Brown out there and just hope that the offense comes
• 24:55
  through to win Game 2 and you can save, you know, Ranel Blanco
• 25:00
  or Kikuchi for games one and two of the ALDSI mean that's
• 25:05
  probably ideal. You can see we're going to go
• 25:07
  through more of these matchups, obviously, but you can see it
• 25:09
  like there's almost some of the favorite teams are kind of back
• 25:13
  loading. It's going to line up with how
• 25:17
  you know their starts finished over this past weekend.
• 25:20
  You can see a little bit of like this back loading like, you know
• 25:23
  what, let's save that bullet. We slot him for game three.
• 25:27
  If we can manage the take the 1st 2 right away.
• 25:31
  We got that Game 3 starter to start the the DS.
• 25:34
  So, yeah, man, I it's hard to imagine the Tigers being able to
• 25:40
  do it, but I'm here for it. Why not?
• 25:41
  I mean, it's that's probably most of America rooting for the
• 25:44
  Detroit Tigers right now. And you're right.
• 25:46
  They have been hot and they've been winning ball games, man,
• 25:49
  and they've been scrappy and Carrie Carpenter.
• 25:53
  Excuse me, Man's is. Which reminds me, no, I'm glad
• 25:59
  you mentioned that name. I meant I meant to throw.
• 26:02
  I meant to mention this right off the top.
• 26:05
  The Tigers. Hello, please can someone can
• 26:09
  someone in the organization explain to me how you couldn't
• 26:13
  help me make my preseason prediction of the of the Royals
• 26:18
  finishing with the final wild card spot?
• 26:20
  How you couldn't make that happen?
• 26:22
  All you had to do was be the literal worst team in modern one
• 26:27
  era baseball in the final game of the season and you couldn't
• 26:32
  do it. Can somebody explain to me why
• 26:34
  that happened? We're back off the Tigers.
• 26:36
  Now we're on. Now we're off.
• 26:41
  No, that was just a little bone I had to pick.
• 26:43
  Objectively, Generally speaking, I'm OK with the Tigers.
• 26:47
  But just Game 162, we couldn't make that prediction happen.
• 26:51
  That was that was the prediction.
• 26:52
  Preseason prediction was riding the hardest.
• 26:54
  I feel like your prediction still holds strong.
• 26:59
  Royals are in. Yeah, but I mean, I was, I was
• 27:03
  ready to to tag the, they knew all along count or whatever.
• 27:09
  I forget what it's called, but I I was ready to to take a victory
• 27:13
  lap. But weirdly it doesn't feel as
• 27:16
  good when they finish in the second wild card spot as opposed
• 27:19
  to sneaking in with the last one like I said they would.
• 27:21
  Do you still did well? Solid prediction.
• 27:25
  Take it. I was a little upset with the
• 27:27
  Tigers, that's all. What are we doing with that?
• 27:35
  You want to make our prediction now or do you want to wait till
• 27:37
  the end after we talk about all the series?
• 27:39
  Let's go now. Give me Stroh's in three.
• 27:46
  I think the Tigers do get one. Let me give the Tigers one
• 27:53
  scrappiness. Just maybe AJ Hinch has some
• 27:58
  minute made magic left in them. Devil's advocate here.
• 28:03
  As as great as Tarek Schuble has been this season, I, I, I'm, I'm
• 28:11
  worried. I understand why folks are
• 28:14
  leaning this way, but I'm worried we're leaning a little
• 28:17
  bit too hard and chalking up game one is just an automatic
• 28:20
  win simply because he's taking the ball, forgetting that
• 28:24
  Framber Valdez is pitching at home.
• 28:27
  Like they're not just rolling out a schmuck like we're talking
• 28:30
  about Framber Valdez here. And I know Terry Schuble, Triple
• 28:34
  Crown winner, congratulations, well deserved.
• 28:36
  He's he's had a great campaign, but I'm just, I'm a little bit
• 28:40
  hesitant to just chalk this up as an automatic win for the
• 28:43
  Tigers, especially on the road. That's just me.
• 28:46
  I don't know. Let's see what Framber's been
• 28:48
  doing lately. Your last start was on.
• 28:52
  Well, he's well rested. He's on the 24th. 5 2/3 against
• 28:57
  Seattle. 3 earned runs. So not great.
• 29:01
  Start before that was against the pods. 7 innings, five hits,
• 29:06
  1 earned run. Yeah, man.
• 29:10
  I mean, Framber, obviously. Wow, he really snuck in with a
• 29:16
  291 ERAI didn't realize even that solid lately.
• 29:25
  It's hard to go against the Astros in the postseason man, it
• 29:28
  really is. And when this group is still for
• 29:31
  the most part together, it's it's hard to bet against them.
• 29:36
  So that was me playing devil's advocate.
• 29:38
  I'm still, I think, I think after thinking it through, I'm
• 29:41
  still going to give the the Tigers the game one win.
• 29:44
  Yeah, I just, I just needed to, I just needed to present the
• 29:47
  other side to that because we can't do it.
• 29:48
  Like I said, we can't just write off for Amber Valdez.
• 29:50
  I'm going to, I'm going to also go, I'm going to go Strozen 3.
• 29:54
  Good, Very good. Tigers, it's been a heck of a
• 29:58
  year for you guys, but yeah, I, I think I think the good to
• 30:02
  build. Off of this good to work like
• 30:04
  good to add this and and build off.
• 30:08
  That's what AJ Hinch is there for right.
• 30:10
  This isn't like a they snuck in sell off more stuff in the
• 30:16
  offseason. This is like a let's add this to
• 30:19
  the toolbox. Now we know what we need to stay
• 30:22
  here and and continue on. Royals rolling into Baltimore.
• 30:31
  Game one, we've got Cole Reagan's versus Corbin Burns.
• 30:42
  I said it before, man, like this is Wit and Gunnar or Must see TV
• 30:48
  and what Wit has done this year. I mean that I'm not just talking
• 30:55
  like league wise. If you were to take Judge and
• 31:00
  Otani out of the headlines as often as they had been there, I
• 31:03
  think Bobby Witt is right there with the love that that's needed
• 31:08
  and deserved. This man has had a fantastic
• 31:12
  season and is a real problem, is a real issue.
• 31:19
  And what what he what he does on the bases makes things like, oh,
• 31:23
  let's just work around him. You can't.
• 31:27
  The dude is a freaking issue. Unbelievably defensive, like the
• 31:32
  glove is. I'm just I'm excited that he
• 31:36
  gets to be on the big stage and that there's going to be an eye
• 31:41
  opening movement across baseball fans that like haven't gotten a
• 31:45
  chance to really put him on TV throughout the year.
• 31:50
  I'm glad you mentioned that. Can I can I share an experience
• 31:53
  I had today when I was when I was walking rookie.
• 31:57
  So I'm out walking rookie in the middle of the day today, trying
• 32:01
  to trying to find a period of time where it wasn't raining.
• 32:05
  It's been raining like the last week.
• 32:07
  And so we're out walking and I, I had this just terrible,
• 32:13
  terrible thought come to my mind and I said, please don't let
• 32:16
  this happen. What if we're looking at a Mike
• 32:23
  Trout situation? Like what if that happened with
• 32:25
  Bobby Witt where you get that early dose of the post season
• 32:30
  and then the team just falls back into obscurity?
• 32:35
  It's realistic. I mean, I love me some I love me
• 32:40
  some Royals, but I that thought just hit me like a brick wall
• 32:44
  today. I'm I'm just going about my day
• 32:45
  thinking, man, I'm excited. Like you were saying, I'm man,
• 32:47
  I'm excited watching Bobby Witt, some Gunner Henderson.
• 32:51
  And I'm like, hold on, what if this is the only real dose of
• 32:56
  Bobby Witt we get in the postseason?
• 32:57
  We need to soak this in. Don't, yeah, don't take it for
• 33:02
  granted. Really got to feel this.
• 33:05
  You got to witness it because you're right.
• 33:08
  It could be. Man that's that's a scary comp.
• 33:12
  I don't want to. I don't want to.
• 33:13
  It's a. Terrifying comp.
• 33:15
  I don't want, I don't want to put that on on front of the
• 33:17
  program, Bobby Witt, but. Is that program with AU?
• 33:21
  Program friend of the program. Good call.
• 33:25
  Yeah, I was just looking at last September starts for Reagan's
• 33:30
  and Burns. Both have done well, dude.
• 33:32
  I think Burns has given up the five, four foreign runs in
• 33:43
  September. So it's been like kind of rough
• 33:47
  after the All Star break and in September he's like, he's kind
• 33:51
  of locked it back in, you know what I'm saying?
• 33:53
  Like it's kind of settled back into what Corbin Burns typically
• 33:56
  does. Reagan's is for my for my oldies
• 34:03
  out there. Reagan's is just like a copy
• 34:05
  paste of Cole Hamels. Dude looks exactly like put
• 34:10
  those two next to each other mechanically and it's like it's
• 34:15
  Cole Hamels. It has also been diamonds in
• 34:19
  September. Only three earned runs and it's
• 34:22
  four starts in September. So I think this is another one,
• 34:27
  man. This is another one that's going
• 34:28
  to be a really good start. I'm just I'm I like this Series
• 34:34
  A lot. I really do.
• 34:37
  And I'm hoping that I want it to go three.
• 34:39
  I need these two teams to beat each other up because both teams
• 34:43
  make me nervous as a Yankees fan.
• 34:45
  They really do. A lot of teams make me nervous
• 34:49
  is the Yankees fan, but these two for sure do.
• 34:52
  As they should. The reality of it is both of
• 35:01
  these teams are coming in on not the greatest foot.
• 35:06
  Yeah. But I think what the Orioles
• 35:11
  hopefully are using to their advantage is the fact that they
• 35:13
  were just here, right a year ago, not necessarily the Wild
• 35:18
  Card Series, but in this early stage of the post season, didn't
• 35:24
  go didn't exactly go the way they had hoped for, especially
• 35:27
  when in what, 101 last year. Yeah, I would like to think that
• 35:34
  they would be able to build off of that despite the struggles
• 35:36
  that they they faced down the stretch the last month or or
• 35:40
  two. I don't know, man.
• 35:44
  Like this is probably my, I would say this is my most
• 35:47
  anticipated series, but it's I don't know, like this goes, this
• 35:53
  also goes back to what we talked about once the the bracket
• 35:57
  started coming into into clarity.
• 35:59
  It's like this is one of the most just unclear.
• 36:07
  Yeah. Post seasons, when it comes to
• 36:10
  predictions, when it comes to clear cut favourites, I just I
• 36:14
  don't see it and it especially. Anybody listening to this is
• 36:18
  it's like fully disagreeing with what we're saying.
• 36:19
  Like you don't we we don't know, dude.
• 36:21
  Like I don't think anybody knows these teams.
• 36:25
  I've never I've I have never remembered this much of an even
• 36:30
  slate across the all these teams.
• 36:35
  Like anything can happen. I get that, but there's no
• 36:39
  dominator, there's nobody coming in fully healthy.
• 36:43
  Every team in the postseason, there's a case to be made that
• 36:47
  you could find a strong enough reason for every team as to why
• 36:52
  they couldn't win a World Series.
• 36:53
  And for that reason, it's it just makes picking these, these
• 36:58
  series impossible. Like I, and I think it's
• 37:01
  highlighted by this one because on paper, if you looked at these
• 37:05
  teams, say at the midway point of this year, you're going, OK,
• 37:09
  these are two high quality teams, Oreos especially doing
• 37:13
  what they what they had set out to do.
• 37:14
  Royals a pleasant surprise playing well.
• 37:18
  But they're like I said, they're both coming in on a little bit
• 37:20
  of a slide. And I had I got AI think I got
• 37:31
  to go. Are we, are we making a
• 37:32
  prediction here? Yeah, you want to go first?
• 37:37
  You want me to go first? I'm taking despite their slide,
• 37:47
  I'm taking the strength of their rotation, the strength of their
• 37:51
  bullpen, which their opponent is lacking right now, and I'm
• 37:59
  taking the presumed runner up to the American League MVP to lead
• 38:07
  the charge. I'm taking the Kansas City
• 38:11
  Royals. Same dude, same thing I am too.
• 38:15
  I'm actually I'm going to say too.
• 38:17
  I'm going to say I'm going to say Royals.
• 38:20
  Here's here's my logic. Cole, Reagan's going game one
• 38:27
  lefty, right? That's going to slide.
• 38:30
  That's that's a, I'm not going to say problem, but that's a
• 38:33
  bigger problem than a righty for Gunner.
• 38:36
  You're going to move Santander to the right side.
• 38:39
  You're going to move Adley Rushman to the right side.
• 38:42
  Like I think there's I think there's some things there.
• 38:47
  And then Seth Lugo has been nails this year.
• 38:52
  So yeah, dude, give me give me Royals and two.
• 38:57
  And I think it's shaping out. I mean, unless something
• 38:59
  changes, it's looking like Zach F Lennon Game 2.
• 39:02
  So it's like even though you're trotting Corbin Burns out there
• 39:04
  in game one. The Royals, if you take the sum
• 39:08
  of their parts as to what they're bringing to the table
• 39:10
  over the first two games, I like their odds better than bringing
• 39:14
  out Burns and Eflin. As good as that.
• 39:16
  Eflin's had a had a fine season. Very good.
• 39:19
  This is not a #2 starter. That's not why he was brought on
• 39:22
  board. That's this is not the position
• 39:25
  the Orioles were hoping to be in.
• 39:26
  So I do agree with you for for the strengths, specifically
• 39:31
  around the Royals, in the weaknesses around the Orioles.
• 39:34
  I mean, pitching has to be dialed in.
• 39:38
  And Burns got pulled after five against the Yanks on Saturday,
• 39:45
  maybe Friday, I believe Friday or Saturday, I can't remember.
• 39:52
  I think that's what the idea that, like you, he's a minimum 7
• 39:57
  innings for this game, like they're going to ride him. 100
• 40:01
  and 510 pitches, if he's in shape for it, they're going to
• 40:04
  try to get the whole game out of them.
• 40:07
  So everything's primed for that. I just yeah, give me Ross and
• 40:14
  two crazy. I'm not.
• 40:18
  I don't like attaching numbers to them.
• 40:20
  Yeah, I don't I don't have the guts to to at least in these
• 40:23
  wild card series. I mean, I know I did for the
• 40:26
  Astros Tiger series, but the the Royals, Royals that.
• 40:29
  Cop out, cop out. It's easy.
• 40:33
  I'm all hand up. That's a cop out.
• 40:35
  I I mean I will OK, you want me to I will.
• 40:37
  I don't enjoy doing it and I and it it makes me feel worse about
• 40:42
  my picks. Even if I pick the team and I,
• 40:44
  but I, I come up short on the number of games in which they do
• 40:47
  it and I, I don't feel as good there it's.
• 40:49
  A perfectionist mentality. It absolutely is.
• 40:54
  You live by it, you die by it. All right, fine.
• 40:56
  I'll put a I'll put a number to it.
• 40:58
  I'll go. Did I say that?
• 41:01
  I I said 3 for. He said three for the I did.
• 41:05
  Yeah, I gave. I gave the Tigers game one.
• 41:07
  We talked about game one, yeah. All right, game, Royals OS I'll
• 41:12
  go. Yeah, I mean, for the reasons I
• 41:20
  talk about the pitching, I I'm going to, I'm going to go.
• 41:23
  I'm going to go too. Oh yeah.
• 41:28
  Which for the Orioles would make it 2 straight postseason sweeps,
• 41:34
  being on the receiving end of two postseason sweeps.
• 41:37
  We were there for the last one. If Ryan's here with us at the
• 41:41
  moment, I don't think he's going to be too thrilled.
• 41:44
  Maybe he's moved, maybe he's moved on.
• 41:46
  I think part of part of him has moved on to the Ravens.
• 41:50
  I think. I think he knows.
• 41:52
  I think he knows. He knows he he's going to tweet
• 41:54
  that he's going to tweet nightly that the OS are fine, but I
• 41:57
  think he knows that the OS aren't necessarily fine.
• 42:00
  He knows Ryan Ripken in front of the program.
• 42:05
  Mets Brewers next on the docket here and I believe third, yeah,
• 42:10
  third series on the slate for Tuesday, Tuesday do here.
• 42:23
  Here's the question. Do the Mets ride the high of
• 42:25
  today's game one into the wild card series?
• 42:30
  Because we already talked about get they threw they they were
• 42:33
  asleep for Game 2, which is fine.
• 42:36
  You don't need to win Game 2. However, do they ride the
• 42:45
  momentum from that first game into this into the series, given
• 42:50
  that the Brewers have had just a little bit of downtime and the
• 42:54
  Mets are, We talked about it. You get to this part of the year
• 42:57
  and as beneficial as an occasional day off might be,
• 43:00
  sometimes A-Team benefits from just going right back at it.
• 43:06
  Are the Mets one of those teams? You.
• 43:09
  Can see it. We can definitely see it
• 43:16
  Severino going game one. I have question marks there and
• 43:22
  hasn't he hasn't looked great lately.
• 43:26
  I I just. I don't no question marks.
• 43:30
  Go back to the preseason predictions episode.
• 43:32
  I mentioned Luis Severino's name multiple times.
• 43:34
  Receipts. I've got him.
• 43:36
  I've, I've been, I've been high on Luis Severino all year and
• 43:40
  I'm not again. Check their seats, go back and
• 43:42
  listen. Go back and look, I said it.
• 43:45
  I'm not. This isn't revisionist history.
• 43:47
  To your point, he has struggled. He's struggled a little bit in
• 43:51
  the second-half. However it's been, I feel fine
• 43:56
  with him going up against the Brewers.
• 43:58
  I, I I just do. I like the Brew Crew, man.
• 44:04
  There's something about them. There's something going on
• 44:07
  that's just recently the young offense, man, like they, they
• 44:13
  finally have an offense. Well, well, hear me out by me
• 44:17
  saying that I don't have any question marks about Luis
• 44:19
  Severino that like I'm not I'm not giving the Mets that game.
• 44:23
  Like he could still go out and throw well and they still lose
• 44:26
  the game. And I'm not I'm not trying to
• 44:28
  like tiptoe in both camps here, but that's me more so just
• 44:31
  addressing the Severino element of it.
• 44:33
  Like I he can go out and have a fine game, but then the game is
• 44:37
  either won or lost in the in the 7th, 8th or 9th.
• 44:41
  That that's that. You see that happen all the
• 44:42
  time. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:45
  Because I'm with you. You and I were both on the same
• 44:47
  page about the Brewers being like a different Brewers team
• 44:50
  coming into this postseason. And I, I still stand by that.
• 44:53
  And I, I think you do too. So I don't know.
• 44:59
  I think Severino, I think he'll be fine.
• 45:04
  I like, I like Milwaukee. I like, I like the stadium
• 45:10
  getting loud. I like the the beers flowing.
• 45:15
  I like the crowd getting into it.
• 45:18
  It's just get me, get me into Wisconsin, you know what I mean?
• 45:22
  Just get me settled in and an early Willy Adamus home run in
• 45:28
  game one and we're just off to the races.
• 45:31
  You know what I mean? That's that's what I'm feeling.
• 45:34
  I like the pitching. I like the bullpen, the Mets.
• 45:39
  I mean, Edwin Diaz is a huge question mark.
• 45:42
  I mean, he's just not what we're used to.
• 45:45
  And Edwin Diaz and I don't even know how many pitches he threw
• 45:48
  today in game one. They brought him out in the
• 45:52
  eighth and it wasn't clean. Yeah, he ended on a high mark.
• 45:56
  But like, we're not on a high note.
• 45:58
  But like, I, I like Brewers. I'll give the Mets Game 2 based
• 46:05
  on just vibes and, you know, playing good baseball and coming
• 46:10
  back and staying in the fight. But I, I, I think Brewers in
• 46:14
  three. We're so we're we're looking at
• 46:21
  the OK, nevermind, I'm just, I'm just bridging the gap here to to
• 46:27
  the end of this episode and that I don't, I don't necessarily
• 46:29
  like what I see. You don't like what you see.
• 46:34
  No, because I like having a little bit of variety and I'm
• 46:37
  not seeing any variety. And I think the problem is, is
• 46:39
  because we we feel so similarly about the teens coming into the
• 46:44
  postseason. Yeah, I like having a little bit
• 46:47
  of variety. And I think maybe the only place
• 46:52
  we would have possibly had difference of opinion would have
• 46:56
  been the Tigers and Strohs. But I just had to, I had to lean
• 47:01
  Stroh's there, just given their track record and the fact that
• 47:05
  it's in Houston. But I, I think I, too, am going
• 47:09
  to have to go Brewers. Yeah, I I think I'm going to
• 47:18
  have to do that. Their bullpen has been
• 47:21
  exceptional. My question for you though, And
• 47:26
  not to mention Tobias Myers, I think gets forgotten about in
• 47:30
  this conversation. He he could potentially be, he
• 47:32
  could potentially be AX factor in this.
• 47:35
  They have a good one through 3, They have a, they have a good
• 47:37
  one through 3 rotation. My question for you though, and
• 47:41
  I think this is important because I, I think that this is
• 47:46
  well, I, I'll go ahead and just say that I pretty much know that
• 47:51
  this, this individual is going to be an important piece of this
• 47:53
  team's future moving forward. However, this year, this
• 47:58
  postseason, 2024, is it too soon to expect too much from Jackson
• 48:04
  Cheerio? I don't think so.
• 48:08
  He doesn't give me, he doesn't give me like the shy away from
• 48:13
  the spotlight vibe. Like he, he, it just seems like
• 48:17
  he welcomes it. He seems like he's this is what
• 48:20
  I'm talking about the Brewers feeling different this year,
• 48:22
  man. Like they have like spark, they
• 48:23
  have youth. There's not like this, oh, we're
• 48:27
  just happy to be here, you know, Midwest kind of thing going on.
• 48:31
  It's like, no, dude, like we've got some dudes, we got some
• 48:34
  studs. William Thomas, some students
• 48:38
  deserves so much praise, deserves so much love for what
• 48:42
  he's done this year and even last year.
• 48:45
  He just doesn't get the attention he deserves.
• 48:48
  So I like the Braves. I mean, excuse me, I like the
• 48:52
  Brewers. I like I like Cheerio.
• 48:56
  I don't like the Brewers. I like the Brewers.
• 48:57
  I like Cheerio. I like Contreras, I like Adamas.
• 49:01
  I mean, I, I I like the fact that they have like veterans
• 49:07
  that are on like the back end of that rotation in Savali and
• 49:11
  montage that I think could kind of slide into like a middle
• 49:15
  relief, chew up innings. Kind of, you know, you don't
• 49:18
  want to blow through your bullpen too quick kind of roll.
• 49:23
  I think I I like the depth that they have in this in the youth
• 49:27
  that they have on the offensive side.
• 49:28
  So I'm I very much am witnessing the Mets doing what they're
• 49:37
  doing. Don't get me wrong.
• 49:41
  I don't know. I don't, I just don't see it.
• 49:46
  I don't want to see it maybe. Well, that's a that's a question
• 49:51
  that I think you need to address.
• 49:53
  Are you just crazy? Yeah.
• 49:56
  Are are. I like logically on paper like
• 49:59
  nothing else lines up outside of just sheer clutch refused to go
• 50:06
  away mentality. Rotation has since like June or
• 50:09
  July. Their rotation has been one of
• 50:11
  the better rotations of baseball actually.
• 50:15
  And I'm not, I don't, I don't mean that condescendingly.
• 50:17
  Like it was a surprise to me too.
• 50:18
  Like I, I, I found that out recently after looking at some
• 50:22
  numbers and I'm like, Dang, like they're, they're not just
• 50:26
  getting lucky. Like they're doing this because
• 50:29
  guys are showing up, showing out and like actually putting the
• 50:33
  numbers out there. I hear you.
• 50:38
  I just can't get there. I also don't want to get there,
• 50:42
  so that helps. I'm out here being honest.
• 50:45
  I'm out here, just put all my cards on the table letting you
• 50:49
  know. The rotation for the Mets is not
• 50:54
  like, like I said off the top, being headed by by Severino does
• 50:58
  not cause me to be concerned. Their bullpen I think we
• 51:06
  mentioned Diaz who by the way, I don't know if you saw he'd he
• 51:12
  purposely was not jumping around today in the post game both game
• 51:15
  celebrate. Smart.
• 51:17
  Smart, smart. Good call, Edwin.
• 51:22
  Yeah. So bullpen that that is a
• 51:26
  question to me. But it for the Mets, it comes.
• 51:30
  If they did end up winning the series and go on a run, it would
• 51:33
  be because of the way the way they're able to put up runs and
• 51:38
  the call it the a factor, the team of destiny factor if you,
• 51:42
  if you dare go that far. That's what it is for the Mets.
• 51:46
  But yeah, I I think I'm also going to go Brewers.
• 51:54
  I hate going. Did I go?
• 51:57
  I went. I went to for the Royals.
• 52:01
  Yeah. OK, I don't want to make sure I
• 52:03
  wasn't going 3 for all these. I'm going to go three.
• 52:06
  I'm going to give the Mets a little bit of respect, give them
• 52:08
  a little bit of love that I think they've earned at this
• 52:12
  stage, especially with the way today went.
• 52:15
  I'm going to go Brewers and three.
• 52:18
  Good, very good. So we agree on all these.
• 52:22
  That's what I was saying. Yeah.
• 52:26
  What I was saying and lastly. We're bound to be wrong.
• 52:30
  Something's going to. Well, I have a reputation to
• 52:33
  uphold here because I don't, if you go back and look and I have
• 52:36
  to remember how last year's predictions went.
• 52:39
  But if you recall the year before that, I think I ran the
• 52:42
  slate like clean, at least for the wild card.
• 52:48
  We don't need to talk about the rest of the postseason.
• 52:49
  That's right, because it was. It was you, me and Ryan that had
• 52:53
  we had all of our. Stuff we had, yeah, we each had
• 52:55
  picks and I went with, there was a couple upsets in there that I
• 52:59
  went with that caught everybody by surprise.
• 53:01
  But I just, you know, what can I say?
• 53:03
  I know ball at least I knew ball in the postseason of 2022 in the
• 53:09
  wild card stage. But beyond that, I might not
• 53:11
  know as much ball as maybe I think I do, but.
• 53:14
  I do have a such a. This is such a weird year.
• 53:17
  That's what I'm saying. It's such a weird year.
• 53:20
  Anybody saying they know you don't.
• 53:22
  Know you, don't know you. Don't know, you don't know.
• 53:26
  You're not aware. And and this, this is I feel
• 53:29
  like we have to mention do this is my favorite time of the year
• 53:31
  because you have people that will criticize the picks and
• 53:35
  then when you ask them, all right, give me your picks before
• 53:38
  the games get underway, you never hear from them again.
• 53:41
  It's like, OK, well, at least we're putting we're putting
• 53:43
  these things out there, you know, putting these things out
• 53:46
  there. That's the beauty of it.
• 53:49
  I don't think, however, talking about beauty, I don't know if
• 53:52
  this is going to be a beautiful series for the Braves because
• 53:54
  they're going up against another team that I think has has some a
• 54:00
  feeling of being special this year in the San Diego Padres.
• 54:08
  They just I mean that one through 9.
• 54:11
  I feel like for the Padres is a problem and can be a problem
• 54:16
  this month, this this October. And that's that's alarming for
• 54:21
  any team that goes up against them.
• 54:22
  And I'm sure by me saying that, we're now going to see a Padres
• 54:27
  team that falls flat on their face and they hit like.
• 54:30
  Always possible. O 64 But on paper, if you look
• 54:35
  at that lineup and you look at what they're able to bring to
• 54:37
  the table on the other side of the ball on the mound, there is
• 54:43
  little to no reason to believe that the Braves can do anything
• 54:49
  in this matchup. And that I that I do stand by
• 54:53
  whether the Padres show out in this while in this opening
• 54:57
  series. That's another thing.
• 55:00
  But just looking at the outcome, little to no reason to think
• 55:04
  that the Braves can do anything. I said it before, I'll say it
• 55:07
  again. They crawl they they backed
• 55:09
  their way in to this postseason. They crawl to the finish line,
• 55:13
  crawl to the. Finish line on top of horrendous
• 55:16
  the final three weeks out of the Diamondbacks.
• 55:20
  And like I, I, I kid you not, I have Braves fans in the mentions
• 55:27
  telling me that they don't even want to see the Braves in the
• 55:30
  postseason. So what does that tell you about
• 55:33
  the state of the team right now? When you have fans of the team,
• 55:37
  fans, I'll give it to them. Fans that love their team and
• 55:41
  will defend their team to the death more so than just about
• 55:45
  any team in the league. If they are looking at this year
• 55:47
  going, it's not worth the time. What does that tell you?
• 55:53
  And I think anybody that has been keeping up, even relatively
• 55:57
  so with the way the like you mentioned the the the final few
• 56:01
  weeks of of this season for the Braves, If you've even remotely
• 56:04
  been watching, you know that this team is not going to do
• 56:07
  anything. And I'll go ahead.
• 56:09
  I'll put my name to that take because I believe it.
• 56:12
  This is just not an inspiring Braves team and they're they
• 56:16
  just got a rough matchup with the way today shaped out against
• 56:23
  the Padres. Yeah, dude.
• 56:27
  And we talked about it earlier. I like what?
• 56:31
  First off, little bravo to Mike Shield.
• 56:36
  Like I think you and I were pretty much the only people in
• 56:41
  in his camp. Like there's so many people that
• 56:43
  just wrote him off and I don't understand why.
• 56:46
  Excellent job. Excellent job by the front
• 56:48
  office and Preller. I love the game plan of what
• 56:52
  they're thinking for. For their starters.
• 56:54
  We have Mike that you mentioned, one of the few teams that has
• 56:58
  their their entire series laid out, Michael King going game
• 57:01
  one. Who?
• 57:02
  Did we? As of as of right now, one of
• 57:04
  two teams. Them and the Royals are the only
• 57:06
  two teams to have their three probables lined up at this at
• 57:09
  this moment. We said Musgrove Game 2, right?
• 57:12
  Musgrove Game 2 and then cease game 3.
• 57:15
  Cease lined up for game three. And again, like I understand
• 57:18
  this is having to do with how the weekend shapes out and like,
• 57:22
  you know, the last week or so and how things map out.
• 57:26
  But at the same time, like the game plan of understanding who
• 57:30
  you're matching up against, the Padres are going to, I think
• 57:34
  probably dominate on all three facets of the game compared to
• 57:38
  the Braves. If you can save your true ace
• 57:42
  for game one of the NLDS, that's really how you work your way
• 57:46
  through this. So I think it's it's really,
• 57:51
  really hard to imagine the Braves getting a win when they
• 57:57
  don't understand what they're doing with their rotation.
• 58:00
  Chris Sale is a question mark. At the time of this recording.
• 58:03
  We don't know. He was again scratched.
• 58:06
  So like we're not sure there. And there's been some positive
• 58:10
  things that have happened with Reynaldo Lopez.
• 58:14
  Freed did have a good last start.
• 58:15
  I think he went, what'd we look up?
• 58:17
  It was like. Eight yeah, great start.
• 58:21
  Which by the way, you mentioned Sale.
• 58:22
  We've I I failed to mention this is on me.
• 58:25
  I failed to mention Grant Holmes.
• 58:27
  Shut up. Grant Holmes showing out a game
• 58:30
  too. That's what did I say?
• 58:31
  7 KS over 4 innings on on short notice in a in a game that you
• 58:37
  had to win. Yeah, that.
• 58:40
  That's big time Props. Props.
• 58:42
  Mr. Holmes, we. Won't talk about the Mets laying
• 58:44
  down for it, but you still got to win, still got to go out
• 58:46
  there and play. Yeah, I, I just, there's so, so,
• 58:52
  so many question marks around the Atlanta Braves and the
• 58:55
  Padres look really geared up, man.
• 58:59
  They're like the one team of the wild card round that I feel
• 59:03
  pretty strong about that. I feel very comfortable with
• 59:08
  Padres look good. You mentioned the lineup.
• 59:11
  You mentioned the bullpen and for they're not even going to
• 59:15
  give you like it's such a flex to not even give you a
• 59:21
  potentially not even CR ace. You're not even going to CR ace
• 59:24
  Braves and we're still probably going to take it.
• 59:27
  So yeah, give me pods and two Dylan sees throwing game one and
• 59:32
  of the NLDS. Wow.
• 59:36
  Really, really, really spicy of us to pick the same winner every
• 59:41
  series and then the same number of games, right?
• 59:44
  Did we run the table on that? I don't think it's going to
• 59:48
  last. I think things will change for
• 59:51
  the next round, hopefully. Will they?
• 59:55
  Am I right though? Did we?
• 59:56
  I mean, I know we all we picked the same for winners, but did
• 59:59
  we? We picked the same number of
• 1:00:01
  wins for each, correct? Or or in the same number of
• 1:00:04
  games for each. Yeah, I think we did.
• 1:00:07
  Because I'm going, I'm going Padres and two as well.
• 1:00:10
  I mean, I've been the the biggest anti Braves guy this
• 1:00:13
  last month or some would even argue further back than that.
• 1:00:16
  But I, I could, there's there'd be no chance you could, you
• 1:00:21
  could get me to give the Braves a win in this.
• 1:00:23
  Series I, I was a little surprised that you were, you
• 1:00:26
  were leaning Royals, but at the same time, I'm not surprised.
• 1:00:29
  So I was hoping that would be our difference, but whatever,
• 1:00:34
  whatever, let him hate. Well, that'll make making our
• 1:00:40
  graphic really easy. I won't even need to text you to
• 1:00:44
  remind me what you said because I'll just think back on what I
• 1:00:47
  said and just double. It that is pretty boring, huh?
• 1:00:50
  Copy and paste yeah I'm I'm with you.
• 1:00:53
  I thought, I thought we might differ on on a couple of those
• 1:00:57
  AL matchups or at least in the number of games.
• 1:00:59
  But you know, after talking through it, I maybe for me.
• 1:01:07
  Maybe give, I said Royals in two, maybe give, maybe give
• 1:01:11
  Royals in three just But then do you want to do you want to
• 1:01:17
  change your graphic graphic just for for that slight difference?
• 1:01:25
  Do I give? Do I give friend of the program
• 1:01:29
  Ryan Ripken a tip of the cap, a nod with his O's with his O's
• 1:01:34
  are going to be or his O's are fines bit?
• 1:01:37
  I think that's understandable. O's are fine, bit give them a
• 1:01:42
  game just just for say, for the sake of mixing the graphic up.
• 1:01:47
  Is that what we're doing here? Yeah, sure.
• 1:01:55
  No, that's not what we're doing here.
• 1:01:56
  I'm giving the Royals in two. I can't.
• 1:01:59
  I can't, I can't. I mean the the.
• 1:02:03
  I do. I do think that'll surprise a
• 1:02:05
  lot of people, though. I think a lot of people are
• 1:02:06
  leaning in Orioles. That's fair, that's fair.
• 1:02:10
  I don't, I don't know. I think more people are leaning.
• 1:02:13
  Not like I'm not saying out of 100 people, I'm not saying more
• 1:02:18
  are leaning Royals, but I think the Royals have more supporters
• 1:02:21
  than you think and how that relates to how many of the OS
• 1:02:27
  have at this stage in the game because I don't, I just.
• 1:02:30
  Already read the comments. Oh Yankee Red Sox fan saying the
• 1:02:34
  Orioles get swept. Big surprise I get.
• 1:02:39
  I already know what's coming. I mean, I'm a I'm a big O's guy.
• 1:02:44
  I I love me some O's at times, but I just, I just don't I I
• 1:02:49
  like what the Well, that's not the greatest.
• 1:02:51
  You pointing to the hat behind you isn't the greatest example
• 1:02:54
  when it still has a sticker on it.
• 1:02:56
  Yeah, I'm wearing that thing. I got it at the stadium.
• 1:02:59
  You're not helping yourself out right there.
• 1:03:01
  I don't know if I don't know if you see what's happening right
• 1:03:03
  now, but you're not exactly helping your case.
• 1:03:07
  All right, well. Cow Cal's right there somewhere.
• 1:03:10
  Yeah, Cal out of. Frame.
• 1:03:12
  Right there, Cal, Right the shout out Wheaties box.
• 1:03:14
  I don't even want to know what's inside that box, but he's he's
• 1:03:19
  right there. No, it'll never be opened.
• 1:03:21
  Yeah, yeah, shout out, Cal. All right, pics are in the
• 1:03:26
  books. Let's switch gears here to a few
• 1:03:29
  clothes in the book items, unless there's anything else you
• 1:03:32
  wanted to add about the Wild Card series.
• 1:03:37
  Nip. Some good news out of Major
• 1:03:41
  League Baseball. Today they announced that the
• 1:03:43
  All Star uniforms are in fact returning to the traditional
• 1:03:48
  standard Home whites Rd. Gray uniforms for the All Star
• 1:03:55
  game. Big, big win for for baseball
• 1:04:00
  fans around the country it. Really is.
• 1:04:02
  It really is. You could argue that bullying
• 1:04:05
  works. I'm not saying that, but it has
• 1:04:07
  been said that bullying does work, so you be the judge.
• 1:04:11
  I think it is exactly bullying because there's a reason they
• 1:04:15
  announced it when they did all this other stuff going on with
• 1:04:23
  the post season. Let's just slip this in there
• 1:04:25
  and be like, fine. Fine, Take the take the win,
• 1:04:28
  baseball fans. We're.
• 1:04:29
  Reverting man, now we just got to get those stupid sponsorships
• 1:04:35
  off. Well, that's not going to
• 1:04:38
  happen. I know.
• 1:04:39
  They are, I, I did read that they're talking about I, I think
• 1:04:42
  they're working on the concept of the hat.
• 1:04:44
  So I don't know what the hats are going to look like.
• 1:04:45
  Frankly, I don't care. Just give me the, doesn't
• 1:04:47
  matter. Just give me the the the UNI's
• 1:04:51
  and I'll be happy. Do what you will with the hats.
• 1:04:53
  Have fun, Have a. Yeah, have fun with the hats.
• 1:04:56
  They've put stars on there before.
• 1:04:58
  They've they've gotten a little creative.
• 1:04:59
  Whatever. Just give it.
• 1:05:00
  Give us the, you know, just give us what we wanted.
• 1:05:05
  Give us the home whites and the road Grace.
• 1:05:07
  That's what we wanted, yeah. It's going to look so good.
• 1:05:09
  It's going to look so good. Not to mention we're going to be
• 1:05:11
  there for it, so that's going to be a thing of beauty.
• 1:05:14
  I. Keep forgetting that, I can't
• 1:05:15
  believe. We're we're going to be there
• 1:05:18
  for the the re debut, if you will, of the the way All Star
• 1:05:24
  game uniform should be. I'm I'm here.
• 1:05:26
  For it let's. Go I'm here for it and we're
• 1:05:29
  there for it. Literally Giants fire farhand
• 1:05:33
  Zaidi. And not just that, they said.
• 1:05:39
  Buster Posey, you're our guy. Buster Posey is now the
• 1:05:44
  president of baseball OPS of the San Francisco Giants.
• 1:05:51
  What do we, how do we feel about this?
• 1:05:54
  Because IA big. A big factor here is, so I've
• 1:05:59
  read, is that the way that Buster Posey was involved and
• 1:06:04
  influenced the Matt Chapman extension?
• 1:06:07
  Yeah, getting done that played a huge role, I think, in the eyes
• 1:06:12
  of. Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  That front office, the ownership group, so on and so forth.
• 1:06:19
  Yeah, I didn't realize it. I'm trying to find where it was.
• 1:06:21
  I think it was 2022. He was like put on the board.
• 1:06:30
  He was like a part of the like the ownership, right?
• 1:06:33
  Yeah. Yeah, it was like there was like
• 1:06:35
  30 I think, like I read 30 members or whatever as a part of
• 1:06:39
  the ownership, by the way. Yeah, so he, he's been around
• 1:06:42
  like he, he didn't just go off into.
• 1:06:44
  Right. The Shadows, Gerald Dempsey,
• 1:06:49
  Posey the third. That's rough.
• 1:06:55
  These are things that I did not know.
• 1:06:57
  I would go by Buster as well, Gerald.
• 1:06:59
  I would go by Buster. Good call, Buster.
• 1:07:02
  Gerald Dempsey, Posey. Gerald, that's tough.
• 1:07:07
  Look, dude, like we're I'm just, I'm always going to be in this
• 1:07:10
  camp. I feel like catchers are the
• 1:07:13
  smartest guy in the room. I just feel that way.
• 1:07:16
  I feel like catchers have to be and they kind of have their hand
• 1:07:23
  and so many do they wear different hats.
• 1:07:24
  They have their hand on so many different aspects of the game.
• 1:07:28
  I was trying to find what he studied at Florida State.
• 1:07:30
  I was just curious, never found out.
• 1:07:32
  Let's. Do a little.
• 1:07:33
  Digging around. Yeah, You dig?
• 1:07:34
  I like this, man. I like this.
• 1:07:38
  I think what's always scary is when you have a fan favorite go
• 1:07:47
  to the front office of that same team, a little bit different
• 1:07:52
  when you see like a, a Chris Young in Texas or Derek Jeter in
• 1:07:56
  Miami, right? Like when you're talking to
• 1:08:00
  Buster Posey in his in his home where he's beloved.
• 1:08:07
  It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for for error, you know
• 1:08:10
  what I mean? There's no margin there.
• 1:08:12
  I mean, what'd you find? What'd you say?
• 1:08:15
  Sorry not to not to cut you off. I'm reading that he was a
• 1:08:19
  finance major but that he finished his degree remotely.
• 1:08:23
  So I guess he he had a little bit work left.
• 1:08:26
  He switched to Social Sciences I.
• 1:08:32
  Don't like that? So I don't like it either, but
• 1:08:34
  he's bringing a little bit of the money background to the
• 1:08:39
  table, which is certainly helpful in a position like this.
• 1:08:42
  And I think it, like we said it, I think it played out there in
• 1:08:44
  the Chapman deal and I, I think that helped him get his foot
• 1:08:48
  further in the door. Look, we've been saying it for a
• 1:08:52
  few years now. I haven't understood the
• 1:08:54
  direction of the of the San Francisco Giants.
• 1:08:57
  I really have not understood it. That's fair, but credit to the
• 1:09:01
  Giants for seemingly falling into line with and to use I, I
• 1:09:08
  think a phrase they used on MLB Network today when they're
• 1:09:10
  talking about it, I think they called it something like a a
• 1:09:13
  surging trend of ex players getting involved in these higher
• 1:09:18
  up positions. Love that, love that.
• 1:09:22
  Huge fan of that. Get people.
• 1:09:23
  That oh, I'm sorry. Involved in the game.
• 1:09:25
  I should have clarified, I love the Buster Prosey move.
• 1:09:29
  I, you and I are very much pro. Get former players into the
• 1:09:34
  front office, yes. No, no, I got what you're
• 1:09:36
  saying. You're saying more.
• 1:09:37
  Yeah, Yeah. But.
• 1:09:38
  I think what we can, if we're going to like wrap it up and put
• 1:09:42
  a description on Farhan Zahidi's, you know, tenure
• 1:09:45
  there. It's it's like, I have no idea
• 1:09:49
  what was happening any year. I'm so lost on on the paths that
• 1:09:55
  they took. And I know from like, our view
• 1:09:58
  and the perspective of like, you know, average or or baseball
• 1:10:03
  fans who have favored at other teams and just laughing at the
• 1:10:06
  Giants every offseason of them not landing a superstar.
• 1:10:10
  There's still a lot of other question marks.
• 1:10:13
  There's still a lot of other things they've done that just
• 1:10:16
  didn't seem to make sense. And when your top move to a
• 1:10:21
  struggling pitching staff is to go get a closer and Jordan Hanks
• 1:10:25
  and turn him into a starter and then say, like, yeah, we're
• 1:10:29
  good, That's done. Perfect.
• 1:10:31
  Like there's just a lot of questionable things.
• 1:10:36
  I don't like what happened with Joey Bart like that.
• 1:10:39
  That kind of threw me off too. And now you like you see him in
• 1:10:43
  Pittsburgh and he looks like he could be doing something
• 1:10:45
  catching wise. They're like, I there was just
• 1:10:50
  strange moves, a lot of outfielders being added to the
• 1:10:56
  roster just constantly like let's just get 30 to 33 year old
• 1:11:01
  outfielders over and over. It's just odd.
• 1:11:06
  I I heard something today and it blew my mind.
• 1:11:09
  They haven't had a hitter reached the 30 home run
• 1:11:14
  threshold since Barry Bonds. See in this, this is what I'm
• 1:11:18
  talking about. Like when you have glaring holes
• 1:11:23
  in the bucket and you're not plugging those holes and you're
• 1:11:26
  just throwing money at the wind every offseason saying like,
• 1:11:31
  whoa, we just couldn't get him. Like no dude, you guys have made
• 1:11:35
  well trying decisions. Trying to throw money into the
• 1:11:38
  wind. The the the money would always
• 1:11:39
  come back to you because you could never, you could never
• 1:11:42
  nail anybody down. Yeah, it's true.
• 1:11:45
  It's true. There's other things that I do
• 1:11:47
  like. I think Matt Chapman had a very
• 1:11:48
  decent year. Decent.
• 1:11:52
  I don't. I'm not going to sit here and
• 1:11:54
  say he's a top three third baseman anymore.
• 1:11:59
  I like I like Lee in center field.
• 1:12:01
  I think, you know, before the injury, he everything looked
• 1:12:03
  good there. There's certain things that are
• 1:12:07
  happening that you know, it's like, all right, there's there's
• 1:12:10
  good moves being made. Patrick Bailey looks like
• 1:12:13
  defensively very good. And I think that there's some
• 1:12:16
  development that can happen offensively and, you know, you
• 1:12:20
  need to go get, oh, who was there?
• 1:12:23
  Fitzgerald, That shortstop looks great.
• 1:12:27
  That kid looks like the real deal.
• 1:12:29
  So there's like there's some positive things happening.
• 1:12:31
  It's just for the last few years it's been directionless.
• 1:12:35
  Farhan Zahidi, I just, I think he was in over his head, man.
• 1:12:40
  It's very odd. I would encourage you to cut the
• 1:12:48
  cut the Giants little bit of slack with that narrative, with
• 1:12:51
  this particular move. I think Buster Posey, I can.
• 1:12:54
  I would imagine that he would do good things for this.
• 1:12:59
  Team moving forward, I like this and I think there's enough to
• 1:13:02
  work with, but your your works cut out for you and Buster.
• 1:13:07
  You need to, you need to get going this offseason because the
• 1:13:12
  rest of the division, minus the Rockies was at least working for
• 1:13:17
  it a little bit. Closing it up here some very
• 1:13:23
  unfortunate news as just I think of minutes before we we hopped
• 1:13:29
  on and and kind of we're getting our our bearings on this wild
• 1:13:32
  card week. The news of Pete Rose's passing.
• 1:13:40
  One of those things where you you knew he was getting up there
• 1:13:45
  in age, but you just kind of always knew he was there in the
• 1:13:48
  in the background in the shadows just, you know just he's always
• 1:13:53
  up and he was up there he's going to be up there in
• 1:13:55
  Cooperstown every summer stating his case.
• 1:14:00
  That's where I had the the fortune of meeting him, got to
• 1:14:04
  talk with him for a little bit. But it's tough, man.
• 1:14:08
  This is, I mean, it's it's always tough when you lose one
• 1:14:11
  of the games greats like this, but it's especially tough given
• 1:14:15
  his obvious situation with the the Hall of Fame and the lack of
• 1:14:21
  acknowledgement there. But I mean, you can't take away
• 1:14:27
  the resume that he he built that you say what you will about the
• 1:14:32
  the Hall of Fame, but I think you can look at his resume and
• 1:14:36
  understand the type of the type of player and and not just what
• 1:14:40
  not just what the numbers show, the way he played it, the way he
• 1:14:45
  played the game, You know exactly what kind of player you
• 1:14:47
  were getting when it came to Pete Rose.
• 1:14:49
  A. 100% and if anyone's ever wondering, you know why you say
• 1:14:55
  it at the end of every episode and why we have it, you know, on
• 1:14:58
  our microphone stay filthy to us is like, you know, we never
• 1:15:02
  wanted to finish a game with a clean uniform.
• 1:15:05
  That was the way we came off the field was I, I wanted to know
• 1:15:08
  that that field got every ounce of my effort.
• 1:15:11
  And that was Pete Rose, man. That was just the way he
• 1:15:15
  operated. And that is such a great just
• 1:15:28
  way to leave it. And, and, and I know that there,
• 1:15:31
  I know the narrative is going to be about getting into the Hall
• 1:15:33
  of Fame. And I know that it's something
• 1:15:36
  that we've said for a while now. It's like it's kind of sad that
• 1:15:39
  it'll likely happen after he passes away, that eventually
• 1:15:42
  that's going to just happen. Hopefully I'm in that camp.
• 1:15:48
  I think he should be in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:15:50
  I think it is kind of weird to group him into the category of
• 1:15:55
  of cheaters with, you know, steroids and you don't have that
• 1:15:59
  argument of whoa, like, whoa, the home run leader isn't in the
• 1:16:01
  Hall of Fame, so why should the hit leader be in?
• 1:16:03
  It's like, well, they didn't get banned for the same reasons.
• 1:16:08
  We're not having the black smudge, you know, on the game
• 1:16:10
  for the same reasons. I, I think that it was harsh and
• 1:16:16
  it was something that like, it was probably too hard for MLB to
• 1:16:21
  go back on. I do think that there's going to
• 1:16:24
  be a commissioner someday that does it.
• 1:16:26
  I think it's probably a little bit easier now that he's gone.
• 1:16:30
  But man, what a way to play the game of baseball.
• 1:16:34
  And I think there was a documentary that just came out
• 1:16:38
  within the last year or so that I definitely want to give a
• 1:16:44
  watch now just to be able to catch some highlights and and,
• 1:16:48
  you know, familiarize myself with like what really good
• 1:16:53
  effort looked like, what Max effort looked like.
• 1:16:58
  And if you're a fan of hitting, there's so many different styles
• 1:17:03
  and so many different ways that players can be successful in the
• 1:17:07
  box. And he's the guy that just needs
• 1:17:12
  to be studied, man mentality that needs to be studied and
• 1:17:16
  just good, clean baseball. Yeah, and, and look, I, I know
• 1:17:22
  it because I've seen it in, in the, the, the comments, the
• 1:17:28
  threads, whatever. I've, I've seen the, the
• 1:17:31
  response that people, one of the responses, I should say not not
• 1:17:34
  everybody, but I, I've seen the response of, well, he was a
• 1:17:41
  terrible human being. And like, OK, like if that's how
• 1:17:46
  you feel, I mean, you, I, I'm sure you could look at the, the,
• 1:17:51
  the length of his life and, and realize that, yeah, you could
• 1:17:54
  come to the conclusion that, yeah, he, he was exactly the
• 1:17:57
  best guy. I think we, we can all agree on
• 1:17:59
  that. But when you're looking at and
• 1:18:04
  I, I, I hear me when I say that I'm not trying to put the
• 1:18:08
  Baseball Hall of Fame over being a good person in terms of
• 1:18:14
  importance. Like I think if you asked
• 1:18:15
  anybody that's in the Hall of Fame or, or aspiring to be in
• 1:18:18
  the Hall of Fame, they would say a Hall of Fame would be great.
• 1:18:21
  But like, I also, and probably more importantly, want to go
• 1:18:25
  down as being remembered as just like a, a, a stand up human
• 1:18:29
  being. However, if you're looking at it
• 1:18:34
  through a baseball lens, you, it, it's really hard for me to
• 1:18:41
  look at how just in bed baseball is getting with these sports
• 1:18:46
  books now and, and how gambling has quite literally taken over
• 1:18:51
  not just baseball, but sports in general.
• 1:18:53
  And, and I, I know that that baseball and betting and
• 1:18:56
  gambling has it's been, it's been around for a long, long
• 1:18:59
  time. But like the fact that it's just
• 1:19:02
  so blatant now and then made and that Rob Manfred and Major
• 1:19:07
  League Baseball still has the audacity to have the the to.
• 1:19:11
  Hold it over his. Head to hold it over his head
• 1:19:14
  with the firm fist that they've had for years now.
• 1:19:17
  It just like there. There doesn't seem to be any.
• 1:19:21
  I don't want to say remorse because that's not the right
• 1:19:23
  word, but there just doesn't seem to be any like leniency
• 1:19:29
  with with the whole situation given, like I said, the
• 1:19:33
  direction that baseball has taken specifically baseball has
• 1:19:35
  taken with the way it approaches sports betting.
• 1:19:41
  I know it was a different time. I know the things he did weren't
• 1:19:44
  necessarily like above board, but like it's, it's, it's really
• 1:19:49
  hard for me to look at his resume, his career.
• 1:19:53
  And I would argue more importantly, the way he
• 1:19:56
  expressed how much he loved the game of baseball.
• 1:20:01
  Like I've said it, I've said it on here before.
• 1:20:03
  He was quite literally quoted as saying he'd walk through.
• 1:20:07
  Hell, in a gasoline suit, if it meant he could play baseball
• 1:20:10
  like I, you just don't you're, you're not hearing that these
• 1:20:13
  days. I like, I hate to say it, I'm
• 1:20:15
  not trying to knock on the, on the, the these up and coming
• 1:20:18
  guys. You're not going to hear that
• 1:20:20
  from these guys. You, you may hear it as part of,
• 1:20:22
  as part of a sound bite. You're not going to hear that in
• 1:20:26
  a genuine sense. You're not going to hear that in
• 1:20:28
  a way that leads you to believe that, oh, wait, this guy is
• 1:20:32
  serious about this. Pete Rose, I'm fully convinced,
• 1:20:35
  would have done that given the opportunity because that's how
• 1:20:38
  much he loved the game. And it's hard for me when you
• 1:20:41
  look like I said you, when you look at the resume, it's hard
• 1:20:43
  for me to take those things, take those factors and then say,
• 1:20:48
  yeah, but he's, he's undeserving to be in the Hall of Fame
• 1:20:51
  because of something that he did.
• 1:20:53
  It's just, it's hard for me to do that.
• 1:20:54
  I, I'm, I'm in the camp that he should be in.
• 1:20:58
  I know not everybody feels that way, but regardless if he gets
• 1:21:01
  in or not, I think people can look at what he did over the
• 1:21:04
  course of his career on the field and say that's a Hall of
• 1:21:08
  Fame worthy. Career 100% dude.
• 1:21:12
  I think I'm curious to see how the Cincinnati Reds handle
• 1:21:17
  things next year. And I'd, I'd like, I'd like we
• 1:21:25
  have a very strange view as fans of of sports to put these guys
• 1:21:35
  up on pedestals and and to almost expect them to be the
• 1:21:40
  exemplary stand up, moral, great human beings.
• 1:21:46
  And that's just not always the case.
• 1:21:49
  And I think it's very, very strange for the Hall of Fame to
• 1:21:54
  have that weigh so much into the decision you and I have to, I
• 1:22:04
  mean, I'm not going to pull up this thread too much, but like
• 1:22:06
  the Curt Schilling thing, you know, a few years ago and, and
• 1:22:10
  just, it's, it's just odd. It's odd for that to weigh such
• 1:22:14
  a factor because I don't think it weighs as much in other
• 1:22:19
  sports. You look at the NBA, you look at
• 1:22:21
  the NFLI think there's plenty of people that have made it with
• 1:22:26
  with their gold jacket and can't sit here and say that their
• 1:22:33
  Mother Teresa. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:22:35
  You could say the same thing about baseball.
• 1:22:37
  It's it's, it's been a. Shift it, It weighs more now.
• 1:22:41
  For some reason because you can look at.
• 1:22:43
  At baseball's own Hall of Fame and go pretty sure that's not
• 1:22:49
  exactly the the classiest individual that you would have
• 1:22:54
  your child model their own lives after.
• 1:22:58
  So and and when I say that I'm not sitting here going like it
• 1:23:03
  doesn't matter if they are if they're a suck human being, like
• 1:23:05
  let a man, but like also like maybe have just a little bit of
• 1:23:09
  leniency and remember that like it is the the baseball Hall of
• 1:23:13
  Fame and not the the the character Hall of Fame.
• 1:23:16
  I understand there's a character clause, but like, yeah, there's
• 1:23:22
  president. There, I don't know.
• 1:23:23
  I do agree. I do concur, but.
• 1:23:26
  RIP to. It's always sad when someone
• 1:23:32
  passes that loves our game like it and helped create what our
• 1:23:37
  game is now. You know?
• 1:23:39
  Huge huge fingerprints on this game.
• 1:23:43
  So pretty sad. I'm going to watch that
• 1:23:47
  documentary now, though. I think that's going to really
• 1:23:51
  get me queued up. You know which one I'm talking
• 1:23:53
  about, right? There's one that was like just
• 1:23:56
  released not long ago, like within the last year.
• 1:24:01
  I feel like I'm looking it up. Charlie Hustle in the matter of
• 1:24:14
  Pete Rose, there it is. When that one come out.
• 1:24:19
  This year, yeah. See, I told you.
• 1:24:25
  Sure enough, it's on Max. That's where I saw.
• 1:24:28
  It because I was watching. I think I was watching Hard
• 1:24:33
  Knocks when it came out. Yeah.
• 1:24:35
  Give that a watch, yeah? But All in all.
• 1:24:40
  RIP to Pete Rose, one of. The game's greatest the the hit
• 1:24:44
  king. We got anything else for the
• 1:24:51
  people for wrap it up just a. Big thank you, honestly, big
• 1:24:58
  thank you to all of our listeners.
• 1:25:03
  Just another year in the books, man.
• 1:25:04
  Like, I know you're grinding constantly working so hard to
• 1:25:09
  get our stuff out and and it's crazy how fast this one flew by.
• 1:25:16
  But yeah, another season in the books for us.
• 1:25:21
  What is this? This is our well, we got a whole
• 1:25:23
  postseason left, but I know regular, regular.
• 1:25:26
  Season like that's like it's not I I.
• 1:25:29
  Think, you know, you guys kind of have fun with us in comments
• 1:25:32
  of like, you know, maybe we misspeak on on certain things
• 1:25:35
  or, you know, misquote certain things, but like, there's a lot
• 1:25:39
  of baseball out there. It's not easy to take it all in
• 1:25:41
  and talk about it and, and absorb it and, and sound
• 1:25:45
  coherent on on every topic, every, every, every episode.
• 1:25:48
  So, you know, we put a lot of hours and a lot of love into
• 1:25:51
  this. And I love the postseason now is
• 1:25:54
  like, I feel like it's awakened this like sleepwalking that I've
• 1:25:59
  had the last few few months, admittedly.
• 1:26:02
  So like this is where it's like, this is what we're here for.
• 1:26:06
  This is what we're fighting for. But it makes things much easier
• 1:26:10
  for sure on our end. So yeah, just appreciate
• 1:26:14
  everybody hanging with us for this for this regular season.
• 1:26:18
  Buckle the heck up because it's about to get fun.
• 1:26:22
  We got a lot of stuff coming your way.
• 1:26:24
  We've. Got.
• 1:26:25
  We're going to have previews and recaps of all, all schedule
• 1:26:30
  changes. Yeah.
• 1:26:31
  Should we? We should probably let everybody
• 1:26:32
  know a little bit. Well, the one we know of right
• 1:26:36
  now, Well, I I think we. Do know the full schedule, but
• 1:26:39
  you know it it could always change with like weird weather
• 1:26:41
  or or just like weird situations.
• 1:26:44
  But as of right now we should be recap.
• 1:26:46
  The next you'll hear from us is probably going to be Thursday
• 1:26:48
  the 3rd. So that'll be after all three
• 1:26:54
  games of the the wild card yeah. So you'll be hearing from us
• 1:26:56
  Thursday night and then we're going to do a division series
• 1:27:02
  update which should cover the first couple games of each of
• 1:27:07
  those series. That'll be on Monday and then
• 1:27:10
  the following one after that'll be Thursday.
• 1:27:12
  So it's going to be a lot of Monday, Thursday until we get to
• 1:27:15
  the World Series. So it's just kind of the way
• 1:27:18
  games line up and and for us to be able to maximize.
• 1:27:21
  What we're talking about in each episode.
• 1:27:23
  So yeah, I mean, if you're, if you want the exact dates, I I
• 1:27:27
  have them. Again, they're tentative, but if
• 1:27:30
  if you just need general planning purposes for like your
• 1:27:33
  commute, you want to know like when you can plan on hearing
• 1:27:35
  from us. We're going to be doing our
• 1:27:37
  recordings on at least for the these first couple weeks, Monday
• 1:27:42
  and Thursday, Mondays and Thursdays.
• 1:27:45
  So keep an eye out for us on those particular nights or the
• 1:27:48
  morning after, if you know got to get the bed early for work,
• 1:27:51
  you can catch us on your commute the following morning.
• 1:27:53
  But we're going to be covering, as we always do, going to be
• 1:27:57
  bringing coverage to you for all of the these games, all these
• 1:28:00
  series, and we're going to have some fun with it.
• 1:28:03
  So it's probably a little easier for us this year too, because
• 1:28:05
  we're not going to any games. That's true.
• 1:28:08
  That's true. Yeah.
• 1:28:11
  And definitely tag the account. Tag us if you're going to any of
• 1:28:17
  these games. I love getting to see any
• 1:28:20
  evidence of you sitting in in the postseason atmosphere
• 1:28:23
  because I know you and I freaking love it.
• 1:28:26
  So tag us in your posts, but enjoy everybody.
• 1:28:31
  Don't go chasing curveballs. Love you all and as always,
• 1:28:34
  looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys.
• 1:28:36
  Soon. Until next time, stay filthy.