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Killer’s Face When Cops Show Up 35 Years Later - True Crime Documentary · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

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  Speaker 1: Hey, good, how are you doing. I'm off Sarah Heart
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  Speaker 1: with the Pennscall Police Department. Do you have your license
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  Speaker 1: on you?
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  Speaker 2: Mighty chants.
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  Speaker 1: This is fifty seven year old Daniel Wells returning home
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  Speaker 1: from work when he's pulled over by Pensacola Police. Than you,
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  Speaker 1: that's okay right now because of the virus everything.
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  Speaker 3: Do you mind talking to me outside? Okay? What does
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  Speaker 3: that right?
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  Speaker 4: Back here in the marcart that way.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, Daniel believes it's just a routine traffic stop.
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  Speaker 1: What he doesn't know is that investigators have already uncovered
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  Speaker 1: a dark secret he's been carrying for thirty five years,
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  Speaker 1: and this traffic stop is about to turn into a
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  Speaker 1: homicide investigation.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, you're gonna have to come with us.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna be bringing you down to police station.
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  Speaker 3: Have compstation. He's too often to be ganging out there
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  Speaker 3: for me. Luck, sir.
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  Speaker 6: We'll discuss it when we get down there. But you're
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  Speaker 6: gonna have to get in the car with them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, here there.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't there. Hey for thirty five years. You have
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  Speaker 3: two options.
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  Speaker 4: Either you've been a spairly to stay coming.
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  Speaker 3: For thirty five years.
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  Speaker 7: You're wondering when you're going to get that knock at
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  Speaker 7: your door when all this caught up.
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  Speaker 8: To you, or you really don't care, Oh talk about.
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  Speaker 3: To Dan Wells. But sure you got a questions right now.
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  Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Yeah, sorry, that's why I like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay here. We we have a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: going on.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we have a lot of things that we talk
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  Speaker 7: to you about, Okay, bank in the mid eighties, there's
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  Speaker 7: no girl da Tany McKinley can't lea now, Milt of high.
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  Speaker 3: School, you can't lead. I knew Tanya.
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  Speaker 10: Kanya athes No you remember her if you knew her.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, like if there's somebody you dated in high school,
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  Speaker 10: you remember.
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  Speaker 7: That, right Kanya I knew was Kanya will I went
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  Speaker 7: to school with.
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  Speaker 3: She probably would have been like a year at aiting school.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know the name of the three bell.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's kind of do Wed we're talking about then,
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  Speaker 7: So we kind of strange if.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know her at all. No, I don't. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know her at all.
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  Speaker 1: The photos the detective just placed in front of Daniel
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  Speaker 1: are of twenty three year old Tanya McKinley, a young
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  Speaker 1: mother who was last seen celebrating New Year's Eve at
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  Speaker 1: a local bar on December thirty one, nineteen eighty four,
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  Speaker 1: but hours later that celebration turned into a horrific tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: Tanya's body was discovered on the side of Peacock Drive
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  Speaker 1: in Pensacola on January first, nineteen eighty five, only seven
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  Speaker 1: miles from the bar she was at the night before.
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  Speaker 1: She had suffered blunt force trauma to the head, along
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  Speaker 1: with extensive bruising indicating a violent struggle. Marks around her
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  Speaker 1: neck showed she had been strangled. Beside her body, investigators
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  Speaker 1: found a blood covered towel, her shoes, and her purse
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  Speaker 1: were scattered across the road, but despite the scene, there
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  Speaker 1: was no sign of her killer. To understand why someone
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  Speaker 1: would ever want to kill Tanya in such cold blood,
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  Speaker 1: investigators quickly rushed to meet with Tanya's family. They begin
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  Speaker 1: by speaking with Tanya's sister, who immediately provides them with
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  Speaker 1: their first suspect, Tim Davidson, who was Tanya's partner and
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  Speaker 1: the father of her son. Tanya's sister described him as
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  Speaker 1: possessive and abusive, claiming their relationship had a history of
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  Speaker 1: violence that was enough to put Tim at the center
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  Speaker 1: of the investigation, but despite that suspicion, DNA testing eventually
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  Speaker 1: ruled him out, and just like that, their strongest lead
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  Speaker 1: fell apart. Investigators then turned to the people at the
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  Speaker 1: bar that night, but no one had anything that could
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  Speaker 1: move the case forward, and as each lead came up empty,
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  Speaker 1: the trail went cold. Until now, nearly four decades later,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel is finally sitting across from the same DNA that
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  Speaker 1: led detectives to him, and now it's his turn to
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  Speaker 1: answer the questions detectives have been waiting thirty five years
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  Speaker 1: to ask.
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  Speaker 4: Back in nineteen eighty five, who said you're living over.
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  Speaker 3: Here at night the late m hm, No, it was earlier.
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  Speaker 9: I was living on twelfth Avenum, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 7: Twelfth's rangy length of leg was first, and then it
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  Speaker 7: was twelfths rangeys that was.
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  Speaker 9: Like eighty two, eighty three, eighty four, and then I
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  Speaker 9: moved over there.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I ran it from ant run out law's brother.
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  Speaker 7: Who like, so eighty five year living in twelfths Arrangeyes,
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  Speaker 7: like over driving.
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  Speaker 3: I had a cheap you still have a cheap I
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  Speaker 3: got one now, yeah, see the black cheek anything else?
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  Speaker 3: H yeah, do you have any roommates looking with anybody? Uh?
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  Speaker 9: I had a girlfriend, let's see Suzelistico. She was from Mississippi.
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  Speaker 3: She here, friend met her through her friend. She moved
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  Speaker 3: over here with you.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, she I met her here until you met her here, right,
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  Speaker 9: probably a couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what happened to herund force? But she know?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, she worked for pentcacle in pre stress and then
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  Speaker 9: she worked they closed down and she worked for the
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  Speaker 9: attorney downtown or something.
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  Speaker 3: Is this why you went on twelve Avenue? Yes, she
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  Speaker 3: worked for pets.
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  Speaker 7: That was pre stress, Oh, pre stress. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: At first, detectives ease into small talk, trying to establish
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  Speaker 1: what Daniel remembers.
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  Speaker 3: You ever lived on elm Crest. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: What will it surprise you?
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  Speaker 7: In nineteen eighty five, were you in callier accounting and
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  Speaker 7: got rusted for drivings?
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  Speaker 3: Has been driver's license down there? My Naples? I was
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  Speaker 3: working they're working over there. Yeah, I remember that. I
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  Speaker 3: guess the only time I got.
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  Speaker 7: Chicked it or anything, because the only time you got
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  Speaker 7: in trolley as far as Color County that was that
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  Speaker 7: was Woodcraft I guess back then too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you Mart Marco Island. I was doing some work. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a proper left her.
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  Speaker 4: But on that arrest, you told me you lived on Elmcrest.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't know where.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, why would you give them a different
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  Speaker 4: after that?
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  Speaker 7: So it's not only your driver's license, right, because you
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  Speaker 7: never lived there and your parents didn't live there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember that. I mean I didn't.
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  Speaker 11: I didn't have a license. You remember not having a license?
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  Speaker 11: You remember there was day. Yeah, they arrested me for
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  Speaker 11: driving on a spended license.
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  Speaker 3: I think I have my driver license. Maybe I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: You made a left turn, that's why they stopped.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, they bring up the address he
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  Speaker 1: lived at in the mid eighties, elm Crest Drive, placing
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  Speaker 1: him just minutes from Peacock Drive, the same road where
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  Speaker 1: Tanya's body was found.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they get you a.
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  Speaker 4: Forty two thirty seven elm Crest Drive and skull floor.
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  Speaker 7: So it's not like sometimes we when we saw people
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  Speaker 7: meet the driver's license and we'll just write down on
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  Speaker 7: the information on our hours license without asking them.
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  Speaker 3: And so sometimes as wrong as they move, they haven't
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  Speaker 3: changed your driver's license. But in your case, it would
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  Speaker 3: have been on your driver's license.
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  Speaker 7: Right, it would have been this twelfth of Serenes address
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  Speaker 7: back then, or a work case scenario, maybe your parents
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  Speaker 7: old address.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I've never changed it. I don't remember. That's up
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  Speaker 12: staying with a friend or something.
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  Speaker 3: I can't that's been a while, man, I understand what's
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  Speaker 3: been a lot.
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  Speaker 7: But that's on both of them. Forty two thirty seven anwer.
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  Speaker 7: So they could only have come from you, right, You
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  Speaker 7: would have had to give them that information that they
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  Speaker 7: couldn't be a mistake on their part. They copied down
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  Speaker 7: the wrong thing, right, But you don't remember why you
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  Speaker 7: would say that.
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  Speaker 1: As the conversation continues, Daniel's memory starts to feel selective,
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  Speaker 1: only offering answers that seem to work in his favor.
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  Speaker 1: So detectives turned to his past, digging into his history
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  Speaker 1: with law enforcement.
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  Speaker 3: Right, there's a lot of work lead enough to today.
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  Speaker 7: And I asked you a questions he had to giving
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  Speaker 7: you opportunity, says, there's some things up, and I'll ask
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  Speaker 7: you questions that I already know the answer to, but
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  Speaker 7: it's better if the answers come from you, and so
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  Speaker 7: that it gives you that opportunity to explain it.
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  Speaker 3: So it just kind of keeps them.
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  Speaker 4: In mind, okay, that there's a whole lot of work.
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  Speaker 7: Going on, a whole lot of knowledge, and we are
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  Speaker 7: not here by accident.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'm sorry to take my part. I'm sorry
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  Speaker 3: harder even ask me something.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, a get some like the answers that
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  Speaker 5: we're looking for. I know the answers. We already said
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  Speaker 5: that we We did run your history. So was there
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  Speaker 5: something that you had in Kansas City? Yeah, we may
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  Speaker 5: have been arrested there.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember that? Yeah? Came and Liberty pretty MISSI
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  Speaker 3: what's going on in your life?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 3: That hard? Is that a lot? He got through a divorce?
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  Speaker 9: You what it was? Just I don't know that. I
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  Speaker 9: drinking and theft too, I have had played a role.
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  Speaker 9: I'm sure you have your drinking back then, uh, off
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  Speaker 9: and on. So what happened during that incident? I just uh,
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  Speaker 9: I went to go work over it, and just I
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  Speaker 9: went into counseling for about six months and that was
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  Speaker 9: bad and probation.
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  Speaker 7: Well, so, I mean what the incident was, So whenever
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  Speaker 7: you were whatever you're doing, we're exposing yourself.
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  Speaker 9: Well, why was Well, it was was coming back from
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  Speaker 9: a friend's house I was working on and this woman
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  Speaker 9: did walk up. I mean I was, I was peeing
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  Speaker 9: on the side of the side of my truck on
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  Speaker 9: a dumpster or whatever that was I remember anyway, But
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  Speaker 9: she made a comment to me about it, and I
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  Speaker 9: was had been drinking and stuff something weird to her.
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  Speaker 9: So that escalated from that.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean escalator because the little Civia type
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  Speaker 3: thing is you.
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  Speaker 2: I was you.
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  Speaker 9: I was exposed, but you were just now. I wasn't
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  Speaker 9: doing I wasn't masturbaing or anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: I was just I was just yours, just peeing by
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  Speaker 3: a dumpster.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that was. That was one and asa celeberty.
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  Speaker 1: Daniel was arrested nine times between nineteen eighty five and
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, and in six of those cases the
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  Speaker 1: charges involved indecent exposure and sexual harassment. His MO involved
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  Speaker 1: waiving a victim over for directions before proceeding to reveal
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  Speaker 1: himself explicitly. This disturbing behavior was consistent with Daniel over
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  Speaker 1: the years, and he also had multiple encounters with the
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  Speaker 1: law for battery and soliciting institution. Now, over the course
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  Speaker 1: of the interrogation, Daniel barely acknowledges the full extent of
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  Speaker 1: his past, making excuses or straight up lying to the detectives.
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  Speaker 1: But what stood out to detectives was that this wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just a one time mistake. It was a pattern.
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  Speaker 4: Allen was those other incidents.
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  Speaker 3: I suppose myself to a lady.
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  Speaker 7: On perfect that one that one wasn't that.
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  Speaker 3: Were your master? That case just expected as long would
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  Speaker 3: you do that? So what about the other cases? That's
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  Speaker 3: you in Missouri, not just the.
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  Speaker 4: Two that you got arrested for, because those other cases, well.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, so that's what you're thinking, though I know
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  Speaker 13: you've got to arrest her, right, and someone were asking questions,
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  Speaker 13: it's not always just what you got caught for, right,
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  Speaker 13: because the one contacted them and the reports specifically state
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  Speaker 13: you know, this sounds like the same space suspecting these
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  Speaker 13: other cases.
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  Speaker 3: And there's like five.
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  Speaker 4: And now those victims.
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  Speaker 7: Shows as many do that they didn't want to go
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  Speaker 7: through the core process and they didn't have to testify
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  Speaker 7: and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: But the reports that you've done this more than.
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  Speaker 7: That, well you're you do it multiple times independent when
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  Speaker 7: was that.
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  Speaker 9: That was in the nineties or probably ninety two through like.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, like I said, while but we're going two
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  Speaker 7: cases in ninety head and again in ninety eight.
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  Speaker 4: Fool's going on in.
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  Speaker 3: Your life during those two ninety ninety nineteen ninety eight.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sure you didn't behave like this, even if it
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  Speaker 7: was just alcohol and that led to it. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: don't have something going on in nineteen ninety what was it?
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  Speaker 3: Was it divorce? Was it just fighting or a combination
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  Speaker 3: that made my way out of my childhood?
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know detectives. Then bring up Daryl's the
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  Speaker 1: barwere Daniel and Tanya met that night, to see if
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  Speaker 1: it jogs his memory.
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  Speaker 4: Do you going from nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 4: five remember what.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing that night? What would you normally have done
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  Speaker 3: on in the year's eve during the time frame.
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  Speaker 9: Maybe go to Kevin's and m'fire or something like that.
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  Speaker 9: In the future, I'd like to go out to the beach.
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  Speaker 9: Where do you normally to hang out at?
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  Speaker 3: What bars?
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  Speaker 7: I'll mean, you worked for chance, but you you did
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  Speaker 7: the culinary. Would you ever go to the bars.
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  Speaker 3: Or on Davis? Is that downtown? If you went out,
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  Speaker 3: you would go to the beach.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, That's where I'd be when you stayed in town.
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  Speaker 3: What would you get let stay in town? Yeah, if
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  Speaker 3: you didn't go to the beach or a bar place
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  Speaker 3: would like to go to. Never got a chance? What's
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  Speaker 3: that chance? Chance? Yeah? You ever go to that bar?
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  Speaker 3: S that you worked for? It your that was Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that was the university truss asking when you go there.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well we got to work.
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  Speaker 7: There's chance there there's like three bars around bars Rock Chance.
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  Speaker 5: There was the wasn't there was the World Tel and Daryl's.
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  Speaker 5: There's one, but they were all kind of on the
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  Speaker 5: backside of University all back then there.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember third one back there? You remember Darryl's
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  Speaker 3: and Chance dard a very back. Benigan's is the other place.
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  Speaker 3: Suspected that and I'm talking now it's like cocon Darryl's
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  Speaker 3: Benigan's Coconine.
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  Speaker 1: Curiously, according to Daniel, he doesn't remember Daryl's even though
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  Speaker 1: he was there with Tan yet. But to detectives that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't add up normally.
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  Speaker 3: Dude likes Eve night.
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  Speaker 7: What would you picture yourself back then doing as I like,
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  Speaker 7: hanging out, friends going out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: So the thing that's talking about, you know, old times
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  Speaker 10: and stuff that judge your memory about elm.
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  Speaker 4: Crest, a house on Alan Crest.
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  Speaker 3: Once I rented a place. W I'm just trying to think.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where elm Prest is.
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  Speaker 5: Go out and around New Year's Eve, kid, your young guy,
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  Speaker 5: which you would be out like looking for for anybody
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  Speaker 5: like company or woman or anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: Use with a group of friends, never whatever. Never get lucky.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I get lucky. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that's usually
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  Speaker 3: I like, you know, we're eating verse like one next
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  Speaker 3: stands occasionally.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, do you meet somebody and you get you know,
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  Speaker 14: most others instead of you know, you're in a bar
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  Speaker 14: and you trap conversational girl and around she's willing, you're
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  Speaker 14: not gonna turn it down.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but guys usually don't. And sol Crest, Well, I
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  Speaker 3: don't remember that.
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  Speaker 9: The address doesn't sound familiar. I mean the name I've rented.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just trying to paint with the MMHM offend her
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  Speaker 9: death happily.
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  Speaker 3: Show you talk. I mean this one she would look
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  Speaker 3: like she had gone out. I don't know her. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know her, never had contact with never anything what
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about yet, I don't I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: would I don't have any idea what shout let's cut
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  Speaker 3: the chase.
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  Speaker 7: So a young lady showed you a picture New Year's
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  Speaker 7: Eve nineteen eighty four, going nineteen eighty five, January first,
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  Speaker 7: early morning, nineteen eighty five. It's found dead on the
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  Speaker 7: side of a road, and I have evidence, but you're
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  Speaker 7: the one that's there. Oh, I have irrefutable evidence that
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  Speaker 7: you're there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not doing all this, right, I guess I don't
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  Speaker 3: on a hunch. Damn yeah, telling you you're there, I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: And even as detectives lay everything out, Daniel still doesn't
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  Speaker 1: believe they can prove it until they explain exactly how
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  Speaker 1: they found him.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I want say, kind of crime shows or just
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  Speaker 7: news stories about crime or stuff like that, cold case files,
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  Speaker 7: anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: You know on DNA.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, d n A is actually just as positive with
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  Speaker 7: more about more positive fingerprints.
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  Speaker 3: Right, so.
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  Speaker 4: I can prove to literally one seven hundred billion chances.
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  Speaker 3: That's where we're at.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not asking, right, Okay, we're not asking if you're there, Honestly.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it does maybe it's been years.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been thirty five years. This is the first
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  Speaker 7: time you've probably talked to the police aboutice I'm sure that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Have you knows anything unusual for the last couple
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  Speaker 5: of weeks, Yeah, nobody around you looks unusual, seeing a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of police cars for no reason.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Nothing that I felt like somebody's following you. No, No,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: we have been.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: The thing is is that your DNA is at this
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: site right on this person. It is nobody else's except yours.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: There.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: There's there's no other explanation, right, it can't be possible
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: somebody else as DNA.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Your DNA is at this sea.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Dan Again, this is this is your life. This is
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: probably freaking you out a little bit, right, But listen
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: to me. There's there's a story here, right, and either
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: you can choose to give that story about what happened,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: the chant of events that led to what ultimately happened
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: as to why.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: We're here, and you have a part to play in that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: If you don't, it starts to look pretty bad as
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: to why you're not explaining it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Don't. I mean, I would never I have never heard
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: anybody in my life, that's what's I mean.
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: I've had one night stands and stuff before, but it's
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: it's like, have you had a one night stand.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: With her before? No, I don't know her. I'm telling
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: you I I cannot recognize her. I don't know the
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: name Dann's like you went back to school days. I
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: don't reason you're not telling us that you know who
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: she is.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: It's because you're afraid that somehow we'll find out that
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: you're responsible for her death.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: We already know that you are, right this thirty five
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: Right, this is thirty five years that you haven't had
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: to face this, right And and all of a sudden,
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: one day your work, you run your work day, everything's fine,
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: you're on your way home. Also, you get pulled over
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: an hour later in this room, and we're telling you this.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: That's shop and totally normal human behavior.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: To be defensive about it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: Nobody wants to admit, much like you sat there for
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: a while and didn't want to admit that you had
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: exposed yourself a masturbated women.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: We had to go through this whole process.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Where you're like, oh no, oh well, yeah, well I
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: did a little bit while I was being and she
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: said something that I said something. Oh wait, no, there
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: was another time we.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Went through that whole process with you.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: Right right, we're starting it over again, but we're gonna
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: end up in the same place because we're.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Not here by accident. I'm being honest with you.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: I don't really like playing games, all right, but.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: We've been doing this way too long, and I'm going
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: to give you the information that you deserve to have
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: right so that you can make the right decision and
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: tell your side of the story. Because I'm telling you,
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: saying that you weren't there does not work prove.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: You were there.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: The question the unknown is how it happened, what precipitated it,
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: what were all the dynamics going on?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Then lets that end result. You can't answer that and
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: you not being there.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: It's not an acceptable answer because the evidence that DNA
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: proves you were.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: There without a doubt. This, this is gonna make your
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: role spin, right.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I just it just blows me away that, I mean,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I often understand. I'm really confused. Well,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: if I don't know, they confused too. No, I mean
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know her. Yeah, I mean I've never heard
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: anybody I can believe you don't know her. Maybe you
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: didn't know he beforehand. I'm saying, other than less you
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: love her that night very well, I don't know what
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I'm saying I don't.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: The break in the case comes from an unexpected place.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Back in nineteen eighty five, investigators had preserved seamen samples
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: recovered from Tanya's body as DNA evidence, and for decades
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it went nowhere until twenty fifteen, when a distant relative
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of Daniel Wells was arrested on a drug trafficking charge.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: As part of the process, he provides a mandatory DNA sample.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: When that profiles entered into CODIS, it produces a connection
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to the DNA collected from Tanya McKinley's body back in
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. For investigators, it's the lead they've been
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: waiting decades for. But a connection isn't enough. They need
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a direct match. By March twenty twenty, A surveillance team
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: begins tracking Wells. On March fourth, at nine forty am,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: they recover a cigarette he dis cards. It's sent for testing,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and when the results come back it is definitive. The
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: DNA is an exact match to the nineteen eighty five
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: crime scene. Within weeks, on March eighteenth, Wells is arrested
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and brought in for questioning, leading to the present interrogation.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: By now it's clear Daniel has no way out of
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: this interrogation room, so detectives start laying out the evidence
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: piece by piece.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: I've pa a little bit of this picture for you here, okay,
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: I mean I been well, I've asked you about elm Crest,
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: right right, So you're like.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Why address? Why said elm Crest? I have no idea.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: I've got just totally deserves blank hole here. Why I
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: don't understand why nineteen eighty five I would have told
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: the police that I lived on elmcrest. I have no idea,
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: that's what you're gonna say. The problem is elmcrest is
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: like a half a mile away from where this happened.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I don't consider that a coincidence. So now you don't.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: Remember living half a mile away or giving an address
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: at half a mile away from where this happened.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: And now even though I am telling you, just like
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I told you, you told the police down there, you
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: you live on Elgress, And now I'm telling you, the
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: DNA proves that you were there, and you're just I
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: don't remember, I don't know. And that's really not gonna
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: work for you, because it just the scene. The evidence
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: we have at the scene paints a very ugly picture.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: This was not gentle, this is not an accident. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna let the evidence tell a story, that
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: very your opportunity. Just to soften that because we understand
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: there are other dynamics that go on it. We're open
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: to the back because before the time and time again,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: we don't go into anything with a closed mind, because
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: there's been too many times we go in and thinking
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: one thing and we walk out and think it's something
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: totally different because then we hear the other side of
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: the story. That's how we operate from experience.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Following you because we need DNA, right, so we have
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: DNA from the seat.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: We can a half two weeks ago, now, on your
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: way into work, you threw a cigarette butt out the window.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: There's a way Actually, you're on your web to a
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: shot I believe on power Fox, and you're driving from
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: the shop, but help pace, and there may have been
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: a police car behind you, and then all of a
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: sudden that police car stops and blocks all traffic right
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: behind you.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Remember seeing that, you know what you did just before that?
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: You threw your cigarette butt out the window, and I
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: was in that police car. There's two aflags, right, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: we picked up.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: That cigarette, but we submitted and came back as a match,
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: So we know that you were at the scene.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: That's that's not a debatable fact.
• 29:14
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you're blown away. It's just I don't I don't
• 29:17
  Speaker 12: know if someone I had sex with or or what.
• 29:19
  Speaker 12: But I just know I don't I have never heard anybody.
• 29:23
  Speaker 12: That's what I'm saying. It's just just away.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: With the facts laid out, all it's left is what
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: drove Daniel to commit such a sinister crime. But getting
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that answer from him is not going to be easy.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Explain then, damn explain to me. I have unless unless
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: it was I had sex with her or something I
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: don't know when I stand or something like that. But
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: but after that, I don't, you know, have any regulation
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: to anything. You lived in the area during this time, right,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I guess I did.
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I I mean, yeah, this was a pretty big deal
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: back then. There's a lot it's all the news.
• 30:12
  Speaker 15: I don't remember, so how I mean, I just I'm
• 30:17
  Speaker 15: I'm just how can your DNA and what's her and
• 30:22
  Speaker 15: if we had sex?
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: That's all the reason that I don't know.
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: I'm not anything unless I'm not asking you theorize. I'm
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: as I can tell me because you're there. How did
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: your DNA and with her?
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I was with her, I guess I was with her.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I guess, and I don't. I'm not trying to well,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I don't remember her. I don't remember the name. The
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: face means I don't remember her.
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: But if you're having in an out partying or something
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: like that, I mean it happened pretty regularly.
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: So.
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: Which you think, like we talked about earlier, that there's
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: after thirty five years, there's lots of things that are
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: kind of beating memories except for those specific life events
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: like in nineteen eighty six, right, nineteen eighty five, get
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: one special blew one.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I know exactly where I was standing when I hurt
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: because that's.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: A significant event in my life.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Right, So you get significant events in your life that
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: you remember exactly where you were.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: What you were doing when they have it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: Don't you think that if you had sex with the
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: girl you were out partying New Year's Eve, You've met
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: a girl, picked her up, you're in the car, right,
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: you had sex with her, and then the next morning
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: on the news you find out she's dead.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that. Yeah, yeah, remember, so that's the movie.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. It's like, I don't know.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: That's the most inocenscenario I can give you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Do you think there was a time that you were
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I mean back then, were you drinking so much that
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: you do remember? I don't forget, I mean had a
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: good memory.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: So you remember if you had sex with a girl
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: the next day she was on a newspaper day, who
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: she was, you'd remember the next day when they put
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: her picture in a paper two days later, go, oh
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: my god, I was just having sex with her two
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: nights ago into yours.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I guess I would remember.
• 32:21
  Speaker 16: If I'm just trying to throw some logical stuff there day,
• 32:24
  Speaker 16: I'm trying to help you out here. He's like, the
• 32:29
  Speaker 16: picture that this Ephens paints is not one that you
• 32:32
  Speaker 16: want to go out there without an explanation.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Their room there to mitigate some of that evidence, right,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: there's a room.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: There to make it look better than it looks. Quite.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: It was horrible, and as he continues to deny ever
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: being with tanyat detectives shift tactics, bringing up his relationship
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: with his son, Your.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Sons in Arizona twenty worn stay in contact with him
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: very good.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: That's hard to do sometimes I gotta send us in
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: the Air Force. Spent two years in Japan. Now he's
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: in Biloxi, which is because two and a half hours
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: on the road. We have a good relationship, but we
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: might not talk for two months.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Right, There's times he does it more like, hey, are
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: you you just go out and.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Down the road? Are you?
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: Are you gonna come back visit sometimes because it's easy
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: to lose that when there's a distance.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: But you and Morgan still have a good relationship relationship.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: You ever come here and visit?
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Was the last time you came here and visit?
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Did you ever go out there? Visit? Been there? Lived
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: there from Kansas City? Does mom live out there? Move
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: out there?
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, so we're not really talking so much. You haven't
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: had a great.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Relationship with your sister's for the last several years. Your
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: mom and dad have passed. You got the next line.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Do you have a relationship with her? Was it just
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: like does she call you? Is it about Morgan or
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: is it just out We have had a great relationship
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: with his with his second wife, would call that let.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Me that's that's good, that's healthy.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: That's probably helped keep you level of the last several
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: goods right, that you and her can have relationships so
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: Morgan can grow up and not feel.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Some of the same things that you kind of mentioned
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: about your relationship with my ex wife, with his mother
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: and my second wife.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: You know, so what, I don't think I don't only
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: knowing you as the last hour so that we have
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: spent it here, right, I haven't known you before this,
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: But you don't seem like a cold hearted person.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know well, so I would think
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: it appears to me that you care what people think
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: about you. That's why you're embarrassed about that. Not really
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: because I mean, if there are certain it's a certain extent.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think we're all like, I'm not going
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: to change who I am to satisfy people. But your
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: image to Morgan, especially what you do, how you look
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: to Morgan, is important because you're a good father, right,
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: and you want to be a good father to him
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: so that he grows up and is a better person
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: than you are. I think that's all our goals as parents,
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: my kids, I want them to grow up be a
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: better person than I am. I'm Sure, that's what you
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: want to feel like, you're the type of person would
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: want that from Morgan.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Sure, I'm telling you.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: Very near future, right when the story comes out in
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: the details, did this come out? If it goes out
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: without an explanation of what happened, right is your story
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: of what happened, it is going to be clear to
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: Morgan that you're responsible and without.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: An explanation.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: On how it got to that point, he is going
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: to be left to fill in those.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Blanks, just like we are.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: And as that begins to take a toll, the pressure
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: starts to build, with detectives refusing to let go of
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: one question what exactly happened.
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: I was with her and stuff, but I didn't give
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: her a right And there was a group of us
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: because I guess she lived over and Bobby Hicks and
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: a guy named Ralph James, they were with him. There's
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: a group of people that I went to school with
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: that were they were there, and uh, we did have
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: sex at park Lot and other than that, well, no,
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: actually it was at the house.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I guess that's where. That's where John Petter Gastler was
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: that the house on Hill Christal. I guess that must
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: but I would stay with him em now and then
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: was he up with you that night? He wasn't every
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: guy there they were came by the house and they
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: left with her. What else would happened? I just had
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: sex with her? What did you mean?
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: I guess the matter is that that's one of those bars.
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: I don't remember the name of the bar where that
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: university of all.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, was a chance. I wasn't a chance now and
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I can't remember it was what it was some it
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: was one of those bars. It was a chance. It
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: was a little restaurant. Yeah, recall restraining out a bar. Ye,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: So be very careful, okay.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: Because, like we said before, you're trying to do you're minimizing,
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: and I understand that you're doing a lot of I
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: guesses I think whenever reality you there right right. I
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: can already tell by the way you're acting that you
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: almost feel relieved that you're telling some of the stuff
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: because it's been bothering you.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: We hit that thirty five years.
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: You've been waiting for this day and it's here now,
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: and it's hard, but you're going to get it off
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: her chest.
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: But you got to do it the right way.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: What just you remember the details there.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: At this point, Daniel tries to shift the blame, pointing
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: towards others, but the evidence keeps leading back to him.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Detectives would later follow up on every name. Bobby Hicks
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: was interviewed on March twenty sixth, twenty twenty. He said
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: he didn't recall being there that night, though he admitted
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: to partying with Wells years earlier, but there's nothing, no
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: forensic evidence, no direct link tying him to the scene.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: The same was true for Ralph James, who had already
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: passed away by the time of these interviews. In the end,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: every lead circles back to one person. There's no evidence
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: placing anyone else at the scene for thirty five five years.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Daniel believed he got away with it, so he walked
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: in thinking he could do the same thing again, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: this time there's no way out, and.
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: She wanted to ride out, and we went by my
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: went by my house and we have a few drinks.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Thanks just.
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: Just evascalated from from from from that, you know, frimous,
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: and then I hit her in the.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Man and it was a dramatic blow, killing her. What
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: happened that made her get out of control? I think
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: we just gotten kind of an argument something. What it was?
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Was it about sex?
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: No?
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: No, she was willing to Wow. Was it in the
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: ralph and those guys they stopped by for all and
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: they laughed, Yeah, were you having sex with her before? Yeah?
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: And she tried to withdraw it and that's what led
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: to it. It's like in the middle of it that
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: she wanted to stop.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: We had we had consensual sex and stuff, and then.
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: Not just what happened would make things get out of
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: him though. I just.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Wasn't something she said, I mean, can we be real here?
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Does she like comment on your sexual performance or something?
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  Speaker 2: Was?
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  Speaker 3: It was just it was it was, but it was
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  Speaker 3: does she want to leave and you didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: leave yet? Something like that. We're trying to we're trying
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: to get her to stay. Remember you're the one that
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: was there. So it's something simple. You said, you hit
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  Speaker 3: her in the head.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Once you hit her in the head.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: With cutting board. Wouldn't want cutting.
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  Speaker 7: At your house, the lord on Mill Crest, So you
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: were just staying up there with pentagrass, and that's where
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: this happened.
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  Speaker 3: Back was anyone else there? They? I mean earlier there
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  Speaker 3: were it was later on something like that.
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  Speaker 4: It's Bobby and Ralph came over there while you were
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: there with.
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  Speaker 3: Her, as you already had sex with her then, so
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: then they came over. They hung out for a little
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: bit with him, have some drinks, and then they left.
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  Speaker 9: And then you said you have been to a little
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: bit of an argument or whatever, and from drinking and stuff.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: That just kind of guy in the hand. So thinking
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: of the cutting of the barrant, you're in the kitchen argument.
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  Speaker 3: I was six and r M. Yeah, And you said
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: once so there was a second time? Was it after
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  Speaker 3: you hit her? Uh? Yes, so you hit her.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: He said it was a fatal blow. She was unconscious
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: at least, And so then you had sex with her
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  Speaker 7: second time?
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  Speaker 3: A most well se But.
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: I think I could he try to had sick at then.
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  Speaker 9: It was like I always could believe what had happened,
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  Speaker 9: and I couldn't get.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Her to respond. So so lets you do then? Yeah,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I think I just took it down. I think I
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: took it down the road my vehicles. I think it
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: was my ford. I think it was my trucks. One
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: us that you got the ticket down.
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: And so forth.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I had that truck down there that was a comedy trucks,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: So you think you had picked a truck to the ground.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Where'd you put the side of the road? I mean
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: in the truck? Bad passengers? See did she wake up?
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: B When did you check bolts and all that stuff?
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Just freaked out there before? After you you went your
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: mind before? How did you eventually kill her?
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: I think it's strangulation. I remember we're getting into big five.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: Okay, where did you or she had when you strangle her?
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: It's a awful place where you brought her to?
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Or was it thousand? What you use? Now?
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: You said that you had sex with her a second
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: time after she was hurt. I'm trying to piece again
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: the reason we're gonna.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Have again, and we just we didn't and we kind
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: of got into it a little bit, so it was
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: over one just hit her with it.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: There's indications that if the sex would happen after she's
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: unconscious to So did you have sex with her after
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: you hit her?
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: You said, yeah, yeah, I guess yeah.
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: So she wasn't a willing ended that, but that's what
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: the argument was about that led to that second time.
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: But then you realized she really was unconsciously and so
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: you kind of lost interest at that point.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Which was kind of annoying.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: So I mean when you kind of make me think
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: that maybe the argument was that you wanted sex against
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: she didn't want to. That led to the argument that
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: led to her slapping you, that led to you hitting
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: her head and then ussex.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: With her again.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Did does strangulation occur after that sex or before.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Before? Yeah?
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: So in hern ahead, she goes out, you strangle large,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: and then you have thanks with her again, at.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Least partially you're trying to as sex again.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: You realize, oh, ship, she's really hurt. You know, take ground,
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  Speaker 7: can put her in the truck, you drive around and
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: the strada pens on, throw the.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Side of it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Daniel can blame the drinking all he wants, but he
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: knew exactly what he was doing, and instead of getting
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Tanya the help she needed, he left her on the
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: side of the road next to her body.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: There's a town, okay, do you remember that just a
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: bath town? Got her blood on it and Scott DNA
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: from you on.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I don't remember, kind of from that house, dropped out
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: there with her.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: After she hit her in the head, and you're strangling her.
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: You're gonna have her blood on you, right, do you
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: never clean it up?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I'm sure I'll watch her wash off. Well, I haven't
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: seen this. So you have this brief moment of rage
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: right the drinking, but do poke. You're not quite ready
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: You're having a hount and she's getting mad at you.
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: She slaps you and that kind of sets you off.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: Crack her in the head with it or but and
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: then you realize that something service. You strangle her because
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: you wanted to be over with And then because you're
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: still in that rage mode, right, you start having sex
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: with her again.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: But somewhere in there.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: You come back to reality, like, so you start having
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: sex with her, you come back to reality like, oh,
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: what if I got.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Do you try to give her any aid? Then? Yeah,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I hye point her.
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: First when I hit her, I did it just it
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: just knocked her right, know, and she just was not
• 49:13
  Speaker 9: responsible at all and.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Checked her her breathe and this and that, and she just.
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: Say, but then you strangled, So you had to know
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: at some point after you with a board that she's
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: so alive.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: What happened to tell you that she was so alive?
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: Did she come to she just she just did you
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: make noises regarding but you knew her?
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, in her shoes are not at the scene. Okay,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I don't remember what I did with her. Do you
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: think you're just that freaked out? What artis is going on?
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I have no idea because we have them.
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: Would it sounded reasonable to you that you drove away
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: from that scene and then through her shoes in the
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: first bunt your truck window could have very well?
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I don't recall it happen.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Not long after, Daniel Wells was charged with first degree
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: murder and sexual battery. Despite his hesitant and jumbled confession,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: detectives learned what they needed. Daniel was a pervert who
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: couldn't take no for an answer After their first intimate encounter,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: when Tanya rejected his advances. In a fit of rage,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: after physically assaulting and violating her, Daniel threw her lifeless
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: body on Peacock Drive, where she'd later be found with
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: some of her belongings. But before his trial could begin,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Daniel Wells died in his jail cell after taking his
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: own life.