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• Catie Fitzgerald: Welcome back to From 9 to Mom. Danielle: where we discuss balancing the nine to five hustle with the beautiful chaos that we call motherhood. Catie Fitzgerald: And we don't know really what where we're going to go with this today. But one of the things that needs to be addressed is that I need to go back on my thoughts of that I would always go to the grocery store and that I loved grocery shopping in the store. I am now almost exclusively a order grocery online person now. And think I'm saving money. Danielle: So thank So I love on the app, it does tell you how much time you are saving, which time is money. And it also does save you that impulse buying and I'm a big impulse shopper. So if I were to go to the grocery store, especially since I'm not the strongest grocery shopper, I get very easily distracted and end up buying tons of stuff. But I will say Catie Fitzgerald: right? Yeah. Danielle: I've always used Instacart, DoorDash, you know it's my go to. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, I'm not so I've always been like, I never had had good experiences with Instacart. Like, want to blame it on like, the shoppers in my local community. I to ⁓ blame on the app because the app is like, yeah, you know how like, sometimes you're like, ⁓ like, I know that that items in Aldi, like, I know that they have it. Why are you saying it's out? So I've that quite a bit. But this is not an ad but Danielle: Poor shoppers. Catie Fitzgerald: We've been on the Walmart Plus subscription. Like, it's so good and we share. Danielle: I love Walmart plus. Ever since they've tried to rival Amazon, they really have come like fourth with some great stuff and you can get way more than you think on Amazon. My boots for travel. This is not something that we've been outsourcing, but kind of for track work travel. I now rent clothes, I order them online, whatever, because I do not have time to shop in the stores. And we have multiple Catie Fitzgerald: It's. Yeah. Yeah. Danielle: Texas themed events, believe it or not. I get the most compliments on these boots I wear. got them off the Walmart app. They're Steve Madden, but they're like rhinestone boots, $37 off the Walmart app. Do not sleep on Walmart. Catie Fitzgerald: But yeah. That's no it's been so convenient and I like that nothing's getting marked up. like the biggest thing is like you pay for your subscription obviously and then I can tip my driver which I feel better about that than like paying the fees on Instacart like you go you go on there and you see what the item costs in store and you're like it's marked up 10 % on Instacart like that part was not what I like. Danielle: Yep. Instacart does disclose now if it's a markup or if it's the same price as you would get in store and you need to look for that. Catie Fitzgerald: Okay. I don't use anything now but Walmart Plus. And I actually do enjoy shopping in Walmart, but I don't particularly like the Walmart closest to me. So like, it is easier to shop for other ones, like you can shop in other stores, and then you can pay to have it delivered in an hour or less or like in the next three hours. So I've been doing that on Fridays now, like I instead, I don't have the time anymore to go to the grocery store, because Danielle: Yeah, I agree. Well, it's funny you say that because in the three seconds we had between talking about work and then recording, I have a mentee and I have to go have lunch with her and I keep promising her that I will get air dry clay so that we can do air dry clay together. get I always bring an activity for us to do together. And I don't really have time to go grab it. So was legitimately ⁓ searching where could I get it the fastest online delivered while doing this ⁓ and during the webinars so that I don't have to go to get it because those are the things that I would pay 499 to be able to have it delivered in the next hour because it will save me so much stress ⁓ and anxiety and that leads into all the things that we outsource as working moms. And I know there's a lot of moms who stay home and outsource because they still have to, depending on the ages of your kids, activities. But we're talking working mom, outsourcing, what are we taking off our plates just because it's simpler. Catie Fitzgerald: Right, and I think that's the point that I've gotten to is like, okay, what is that two hours of grocery shopping worth for me? And okay, I'm gonna spend a little more on the app to get that. And I will say like Walmart's the place I can get everything. Like here where I shop, I have to go to Aldi, then Wegman. Like you gotta shop many stores. So like finding ways to get, and that's where like Instacart's great, because you can shop all the stores, right? And get what you need. So that helps, but then yeah, being able to, Danielle: Yep. all the stories around. Catie Fitzgerald: save time is what it's coming down to. And then I think because on the weekends, I do want to spend with the kids or I want to work on like, extra projects around the house. Like right now, upstate New York, it's like we got to get outside cleaned up. It looks like the ghetto out there right now. Like we got to get we got to get leaves picked up, we got to get like, you know, mud and stuff off everything. So it's like, I need to spend time on that not cleaning toilets. So outsourcing Danielle: You Well, and you've been. Catie Fitzgerald: normal household cleaning is important to me. Danielle: Yeah, and I literally was sitting with a friend of mine outside. She had dropped something off to me saying the same thing. She was like, I have gone back to work and I have a cleaner come every other week. And I was I wish I could afford it's not in the budget right now. And then she gave me the cost of the cleaner. And I was thinking to myself, there's so many days on the weekends. Like you said, I need to do these things that I feel like I'm throwing my kids in front of a TV or I am buying an activity for them to do while I clean the house. I'm mad that I'm not spending time with them. And that there's every week, it's the same round robin every single weekend, I hired a cleaner to come every other week because just to do the bathrooms in the kitchen, simply because it frees up like you said, the two hours of my time to five hours depending on the situation in my household, and I get to dedicate that time to being with my kids or doing an activity, being outside, especially in the summer, it's definitely worth the money. And you start thinking about how many hours do I need to work to pay for this versus how many hours am I spending? Catie Fitzgerald: I know. Well, that's a really good point because I used to be somebody that was like, that is not even anywhere in the budget. Remember when I was like, I'll know I made it when I can afford a cleaner. Then you get the quote on the cleaner and you're like, I can make room, you make room for that because you know, what is that one? One, I'd rather give up the one night out that we ordered out to or two, God, I'd give up all of them during the week to have that now. Like, you know what I mean? Like, but that's where you, Danielle: Yes. Yes. to be able to have that. Catie Fitzgerald: give and take what you would do. Like, okay, cook at home all, you know, months so that you can have the cleaner. Yeah. Danielle: Even the weekends too, you would go out you'd be cleaning all day and then you'd feel guilty that you were cleaning all day. So you're like, we got to go do something. Go out as a family and spend the money eating subpar food at a place. So I think like that's something that a lot of working moms have outsourced at this point. And I even use AI. At this point, this is embarrassing to help me figure out what my priorities are from a cleaning. Catie Fitzgerald: go out, yeah, and then you double your, yeah. Great. Danielle: Perspective so before I got the cleaner. I would say here's all the things that I need to do Can you make me a monthly schedule? Down to purging drawers in my situation because you know ADD people like drawers Catie Fitzgerald: Yes. This is the time though, like spring cleaning is here. Like, you know, we've been working on our basement. I've purged every garbage day that's come up this last month. Like the dry, the end of the driveway is packed of trash of things that just are not, that are sitting here that are garbage. And we're going to have a garage sale next weekend. Not here. Like we're bringing stuff, Ryan's parents to like send out. Danielle: Yeah. neighborhood. ⁓ okay. Catie Fitzgerald: they get a really they have a really big garage sale in their area. So like, it's a great time for that. But like getting like those are the things that I have to spend time on not doing the basic chores that need to be done every month every two weeks or so like, and with Calvin potty training, I mean, realistically, my bathrooms need to be cleaned every other day. Like, I am in a frat house. I don't think we've talked about it. There's Danielle: Yeah. Yeah, you're in a frat house and I am in a drunk sorority house because daisies way worse than colton. Daisy has a peace dream that is so strong and she doesn't always understand the concept of sitting far enough back she's starting to learn. And I'm telling you you think it's boys but she has P and I'm like, ⁓ my gosh, this is what our this is what my house looks like in college like you're saying it is truly it Catie Fitzgerald: you ⁓ Danielle: It's constant. Then the cleaner came, did a great job downstairs with the bathrooms and Colton goes and poops in the bathroom and it's like nothing ever happened. So you're like, thank God I that help. But it's, it's to the point where those things we're going to have to do the daily like maintenance or whatever, but just having something to support you in that way is it's a big deal and it's a big time saver. Catie Fitzgerald: instead. Yeah, I know. You do. You do. Yeah, it is. And I think it's helped me like enjoy the weekends a lot more. like now we're you know, the weekends consists of like last weekend was our first weekend, we had no plans like with other people going somewhere. ⁓ then we're like, we have no plans. What are we going to do with these kids all day? We went to the zoo, we did baseball game, we did dinner, like we did everything we could be out of the house ⁓ one day. So then I'm like, okay, we spent Danielle: Isn't it the best? Catie Fitzgerald: tons of money doing that, so now we're doing activities, whereas when you're in the baby phase, I don't know about anyone, a lot of people bring their babies everywhere still, we were, it was just easier to be home, and we stuck to our nap routine, and that, we're like. Danielle: Well, you're not in like me warm, like we where I live, it's warm all the time. So we did stuff. Yeah, on Saturday, we had a birthday party, but we always are never never home. And I got home late on Friday. And then Saturday, we had a birthday party. We hung out in the neighborhood at a good time. Did yard work Saturday, we had a birthday party after the birthday party. We decided it was my sister in law's birthday there in Korea. So we decided to do our own career experience. As you can see all the pepper boxes behind me. If you're watching this, I found the entire Catie Fitzgerald: Great. you Danielle: the entire Stray Kids line which I can never find. So I bought them all. But we did that. And then we went to the kpop store and then they had a market like a complete food market and we decided to eat dinner there before going home and before you know it. It's like Catie Fitzgerald: I don't even know what that is. Danielle: outsourcing activity time because we don't want to sit home and do nothing because we haven't done anything with our kids all week. Catie Fitzgerald: Yes, really, really difficult. I feel like though, like the as the activities come up in that too, like we're getting to that time and you have like Colton does stuff after school and like Daisy's a little more during the day still. But like as she gets stuff outside of school, like school hours, it's ⁓ I feel like there's going to be more to outsource. And we had ⁓ for example, like last night we, Ryan had a volleyball game for the school. Danielle: Yes. Catie Fitzgerald: And because I was working till like 445, and I think I made a joke, like, how do you work till five anymore? Like when you have kids, like, don't know how, I'm luckily working at home. So like, God forbid I would have been at the office, had to work till 445. It wouldn't have worked. Like we would have had to get, you would have had to get care. So we're trying to like, like pass off, me and Ryan, in passing, passing off the kids, he's gotta leave, we're going to watch the game. Danielle: Yeah. What do you do? You out-tourist babysitters, after-school activities, all that stuff. Catie Fitzgerald: All of a sudden, it's 515. This thing starts at 530. My kids haven't eaten dinner. I have no idea how long we're going to be there. I don't know if there's food there. Like, I'm out the door. I'm like, I have two granola bars in my bag, and I didn't bring anybody water. And so we get there. They're eating concession stand dinner, because that's what there was. Jack won't eat anything from a concession stand. So his dinner last night was Lay's potato chips. And then Danielle: Yep. Very, very well rounded meal. Catie Fitzgerald: like then I'm coming home and like whipping out on crustables because it's 730. They go like usually we're like in the bath by that like I'm trying to like meet their routine because these guys still need sleep like per our schedule like what our schedule is and you're like rushing around and I'm like so dinner every night is like outsourced pretty much at this point. Danielle: Yeah. Yeah, and it's not even like that it's out. It's what you're saying the uncrustables the bag of dinos like we want to cook meals for our kids, but we do things to make it easier. So the steamables vegetables, the chicken nuggets that you know that they'll eat that you could throw in the air fryer in two minutes uncrustables I live by them. I know people we talked about this before like, what do you do if I did not have uncrustables my kids would be starving because I picked Colton up for music class the other night him and his buddy. Catie Fitzgerald: Yes. Yeah. Danielle: and I threw uncrossables in the car, I knew they'd be starving, we didn't have time to go eat in between. So that's what you do. And I think that with food, it's really difficult because sometimes it's planned. Sometimes it's not. everyone keeps telling me to meal prep, which thank you, I know that that would be a great idea. But like, this is one those things that I've gone to Catie Fitzgerald: Easy. Danielle: like chat to your clod and said, Hey, can you make me mail prep based off of these things? And it tells me what to do. But like, it doesn't do it for me. It won't cook the food or prep the food. And like that gap for me is really preventing me from using it fully. Catie Fitzgerald: put it in the container and not in the cap. It's so hard though, because it is true. It's like I, we had the comments of the people that like joke about some of our Instagram posts that we put out. And it's like, ⁓ just, just meal prep or just yeah, make the uncrustables and that. I get that it could take 20 minutes, but it doesn't take 20 minutes because have you met my kids that stand between my legs when I'm trying to like dice vegetables or prepare chicken to be cut like. Danielle: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, like if you had to wipe a butthole in between cutting food Catie Fitzgerald: I have to poop when you're in the middle of it. Do you have ADHD? Like, do you know how this works? Like, it's everywhere. it's just, there's, you know, there's so many distractions to it, and I don't even have ADHD. I just am, like, trying to be normal and get things done, and you, like, move between a million things. So it is about the time. 15 minutes for a mom is an hour. So yeah, it's hard to put an hour into anything when... Danielle: Wait. Yes. Catie Fitzgerald: it's just not when there are the alternatives of quickness in that like. Danielle: Yeah, and people might say it's lazy, or we're just trying to get away easy. I don't care what you say about it. It just there's so many things that are seen and unseen as a working mom that go on around your brain. There's so much space taken up in your brain. So the concept of trying to get that done impossible. I know that we were joking. I was getting my putting my makeup on this morning. I sent you the video daisies in my arms trying to put lip gloss on me. She wants the makeup on now she goes to school with half an orange face. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Danielle: because she was like playing with my makeup brush and you're just like, you know what? is the best I can do right now. This is the best I can do. Catie Fitzgerald: I was watching this is so valid to bring up. It just made me think of it where you're saying the best we can do. Have you ever watched Kylie Kelsey's like clips on ⁓ TikTok or stuff? ⁓ her podcast, I don't know that I can get behind her podcast fully, but like because like they're the enemy, you know, but for like sports. But like I do enjoy what she like her take on motherhood, I guess. And so. Danielle: Yeah, I've watched him online. Catie Fitzgerald: She had a segment up where she watched this video of a mom and I told my kids this story. I edited it for them, but hopefully this will help somebody that's going through something similar. This mom posted a video and she's like, I was in the car. We're on our way to school. My daughter's in the back seat. She's like later elementary school age. And she's like, I don't even know how to explain it to you guys, but just please don't blow me up. But we got to the point where the iPad was in the car on the way to school. I don't wanna be judged for how, and like Kylie Kelsey like stopped the video and was like, listen, moms should never have to like explain how they got to a certain situation. Like you just, you did, we all understand. there, so many things happened, she snuck it in the car for all we know, or like whatever. the mom, so then she turns it back on and the mom's like, I told my daughter she needed to put it down. She basically told me no. I told her I was gonna throw it out the window. She was like, you won't do that. Like, you know, the attitude of the mom. And the mom's like, Danielle: Yes. Catie Fitzgerald: All of a sudden we got to the point I saw Red grabbed the iPad threw it out my window. We go to school drop off my daughter's crying. She pulled it together, went in at drop off and it was fine. She's like, don't I turn the car around? Thank God that iPad's laying on the side of the road ⁓ mom went back and picked it up, took it home and hid it. And her daughter like got back in the car and was like, ⁓ told everyone at school that you threw my iPad out of the car. She's like, good. It's gone. It's gone. Like, ⁓ now she like is living on that. I should see if there's follow up, but it was just funny to be like, Danielle: That's insane. Because I did. Catie Fitzgerald: Here, like, Kylie Kelsey was just like, moms shouldn't have to explain how they got to a certain point. Like, we've all been there, where... Danielle: Yes, like it is sad that we have to defend ourselves in every situation. You bought me that book that was like you think you're a bad mom or whatever there's worse moms than you is what the book is called. And it's like there are such there are bad moms out there. We are not them the fact that we care enough or trying or like there are people who are genuinely bad parents, but like the majority of the world. We're all great parents just trying to do the best Catie Fitzgerald: Right. ⁓ yes. Danielle: that we can do and we're all also growing ourselves like emotional regulation was not something we were all taught as kids. So now you have dysregulated children and dysregulated adults and we're just trying to make it through Daisy today answered a work call and I thought she called them and I was running late because Daisy threw up at school two days ago. So now she's scared to go to school. We're running late. I just need her to be calm to get in the car. I never give the kids the phone in the car because we do carpool karaoke. It's a joy of mine. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. We're all training goodbye. you Danielle: So I told her you can have it until you get into the car. She was good, but she goes, ⁓ no, not again. And she's like, hello. She answered the work call. And then I had to explain that I don't know who called who. My daughter answered the phone, but thank God it was a dad. It was a dad who said, hey, I'm in the car with my 17 year old taking him to school right now. So totally get it. Don't apologize. And that's the point. We're all in this like together. So if you have good. Catie Fitzgerald: I don't have time to talk to you actually right now. Yes. Danielle: Strategies that work for you use those strategies. It's not fair to judge So when Katie and I say we're outsourcing like feel free to judge on your own time But we don't care because the reality is like I can't care Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. You can't, you can't, like there's not time to care anymore. Like everyone is a collective just needs to say like, you got to do what you got to do and like move forward because it's, and then just to sit, have time to sit back and judge, like the time that you're sitting to judge me, you should be doing something else if you're that productive and you're upset with how productive we are. Right? Danielle: Yes, oh, you want to come and help me because also Katie and I've been getting a lot of messages about using AI more in our lives. And it's usually from men. Catie Fitzgerald: ⁓ yeah. AI should be doing everything for you. You shouldn't even have to think. And now we've been it's a joke for us. Did you watch some of the Instagrams that I sent you last night? You need to watch them. It's it's like the over exaggerating of like, the bosses telling people to like use AI. It's like you your you shouldn't be reading emails, your AI should be reading the emails. And they're like, well, you're sending me emails. He goes, well, my AI sending you emails, you need to answer my email with your AI. Danielle: Yes. I haven't watched them yet. You're AI. Catie Fitzgerald: and our AI should be talking to each other. And he's like, I have an AI that shows me my inbox. It's like, well, can't you just look at your inbox? No, my AI shows me what's in my inbox. Well, so does your inbox. ⁓ Danielle: Why? Your inbox literally will show you the same thing. And if like, it's so funny, because it is exaggerated. Everybody's like freaking out about it. And then Katie and I will sit here and be like, you know what? How about you teach Claude how to literally wipe my kids butt or get them dressed for school? Do you think that they could like console them during drop off for me so I can get on that AI I can make the rule to have my AI Catie Fitzgerald: I'm emotionally available to be... Danielle: Yes, like can and then I think it's funny because everyone's like I talked to AI all day, which we do but AI is a therapist like it's trying to appease you. So it's telling you what you want to hear. So if you go too far down the AI hole, you're sitting there being like everything you do like you could literally say to AI, hey, I just murdered someone and I buried the body in my backyard like, and it'd be like, listen, Danielle. Catie Fitzgerald: Great. Yeah. Danielle: You're stressed, it is totally reasonable that you would hit that person over the head with your shovel and bury them in your backyard. Anybody in your position would do that. You want me to help you hide the body? That's literally what Quinn is going to say to me. Catie Fitzgerald: Thank you. that's how it's supposed to be, like that's how it's supposed to answer to you. But that's why like it's just to use it in all of these ⁓ though, right? ⁓ Danielle: But there are cases where AI does help outsourcing things, certain things does help. There's rules that you and I have put on to like add tasks to Trello so that we don't have to go in and do that. Or we've hired assistants to go in and help us go through certain things so that it's faster and it's worth the time for us to spend on other things. Like Canva is an example of something that we've used as an outsourcing tool and at times. Catie Fitzgerald: Right, right. And that's where it's like, it's hard to balance where you do it as a mom because like, yeah, make a meal plans and like all this stuff. like, honestly, I'm in on all the stuff people have already built with AI and I'm going to just use their programs for it. Like, why reinvent the wheel? Like they built an app, cool, I'll sign up for it. I'm not going to pay for it. like, Danielle: Yeah. Let's give it a shot. Catie Fitzgerald: I'm gonna buy I'll use the free version for as long as I can or whatever it is. But yeah, I feel like from like the motherhood perspective, there's just things with motherhood you can't put into AI. So like, sure, do as much as you can have it give you you know, what your routine should be. Do I think like, back when we had like little babies being able to ask AI stuff would have been so helpful. Danielle: Yes, and we had even more than our parents did. So it's like you can use that, even that you have to be careful because you still have to research and make sure it's coming from the right sources. it's. Catie Fitzgerald: Great. Reputals. Yeah. I just had this is really bad and I put shouldn't put it on a podcast probably but I'm gonna because I'm running a webinar in 20 minutes about Reddit ads and I attempted to get my Reddit certification. So obviously I like read every single question into chat and I'm like I just need to pass this I know enough about Reddit I just my brain can't think right like to take a test to me is wild like I don't like it. Danielle: Yeah. Yeah. Catie Fitzgerald: So it was like 40 questions. So I'm sitting here on chat, like on my phone and I'm like reading at the questions. Don't we freaking fail the exam. Danielle: You and chat failed Reddit together? Daphne, shame on you. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I blame chat. yelled at her. go, why did we just fail that? She goes, well, sometimes some of them are up to no, you should. It was multiple choice. Daphne. How did we fail? I read you all the options. Danielle: I failed my draft using Quinn. I felt very confident about it and I failed the draft. So I mean, it's not always as perfect as it says. So when it comes to your kids, you know, you can't outsource But I do think I'm still laughing like why we failed Daphne. I'll see if Quinn can do I'll see if Quinn can do it. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, like I just. I was pissed. Because then I just wasted, we passed the first one and then we did the secondary like one that I think is actually probably valuable. And I did, like, I read the question so I'm absorbing the information but like I went through and I'm like, okay, like how did we get a 70 %? You only need an 80 to pass and we got 70. Danielle: That's the worst. That's the worst. Daphne's in trouble. Like, knock her out for a minute. Tell her. Catie Fitzgerald: I'm like, how do you like, and then I'm like, is AI smart enough to know that I was taking a test and it's doing this on purpose so people don't take tests. Danielle: We don't know that's like we don't know when she passed the first one. Maybe it's trying to give you false confidence. I think Yeah, I feel like there's certain things you can outsource certain things you can't I think the reality of motherhood especially working motherhood is you said it in the very beginning we need to normalize Outsourcing or paying for things that save us time and energy in Mental space before we can quote unquote afford it Because sometimes that energy in that mind space is preventing you from like leveling up in life and in your career. So you sit and you're like, and so many of us were brought up to say I can do it and Katie, you're, you're definitely one of these people is like, I'm to do it myself, too. And I'm in between, I don't like to ask for help at all. Like, but in work, I was given that rule before, you know, so it's like, you want to say no, I got it, I got it. we as a pride factor, we don't want to ask for help. Like, don't worry, you don't want to help me, I can do it myself kind of a thing. Like, we got to stop doing that because it's preventing us from being better. And then I think, like, I really do think that people burn out so quickly, because there's so much that goes on. And I think when you think about outsourcing, you have to think you're buying back your time to prevent burnout, because burnout will cost you a lot more than the hundred and Catie Fitzgerald: Right. ⁓ it's great. Danielle: $25 every other week to clean your house or the 999 tip you're giving the Walmart driver so that you didn't have to run to the store in between this and your webinar and then your kids soccer practice to get the 1700 things on your list Catie Fitzgerald: Right. We should have our chats calculate as a mom, like what our rate is based on our income levels. So that you could put it, cause like for me, imagine if you had the exact dollar amount of like, because I didn't go for two hours, here's how much that's worth. Like a monetary amount. Danielle: That would be insane. Yes, like we should you can't put a price on on love and mental clarity. I'm sorry. But we could try. Like if we say your golf round, hey, your golf round, what I spent on this is equivalent to like, I saved x dollars doing this. you spent this on your golf round like we're even like I you spent $9.98 on Nick Jonas. ⁓ Catie Fitzgerald: I I don't know. I don't know what's... This is true mom. Danielle: not even close like you saved that money already. Catie Fitzgerald: This is real mom. This is mom math, right? Like this is where we're deep in it right now of like, how do we conceptualize the costs of some of these things? But yeah, like all this craziness makes me go and spend crazy money on things because I'm so I'm like, I need to go to this because I'm like, just Danielle: Yeah. our happiness. At least you're going to see, because I want to go see Nick Jonas, but he's here the two days he's here. I'm at the Stray Kids concert. Least you're going to the concert. I bought, these are $2 a pop pop, so it's not that expensive, but I bought all eight, all eight of the kids. Catie Fitzgerald: Yeah, like you're into the merch. Like I have no Jonas Brothers merch. I have one t-shirt. Danielle: You buy merch when you go and you're drunk. You're gonna buy a t-shirt. Don't lie to me Catie Fitzgerald: That was, I've been to three concerts in the last 15 years and I, the one time bought a t-shirt. Pretty good track record. But yes, I do love them. I do, but I like free stuff. Get me a beer and free stuff. I'm getting everything free. Danielle: Well, that's fair. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, you like free swag. I'm like, went to the concert. So I need it like I have so many concert tees, but it's like a pride. And now Colton wears them, which I think is like the cutest. So you know, that might not be something that I can justify. But I will try and create we'll use a guy for what it's meant for to make us feel better about ourselves. And then if we could figure out the input, we'll share it with you guys so that you too can justify all our crazy, or you're crazy in that case. Catie Fitzgerald: But it's fine. And they will. and we're gonna call it the MomMath Generator 3000. Danielle: I think we can do it. Ooh, 3000. Sounds good. Okay, Jonas Bros. On that, we're gonna clock out. Catie Fitzgerald: end to the year 3000, I don't know. All right, we need to clock out so I can go do my webinar. We'll see you all next time. gonna get sued by Reddit. All right, bye. ⁓ Danielle: You little Reddit cheater. No, you're not. Bye.