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Gabriella Vigorito & Catherine Galasso-Vigorito - A Mother-Daughter Duet: Behind the Scenes of sMothered · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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  Speaker 4: Everybody, welcome to cats and pudding. And today I have
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  Speaker 4: two great gas, not one, but yo great gas today
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  Speaker 4: my beautiful Catherine and my beautiful Gabriella. I look how gorgeous?
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  Speaker 4: Look at that? And then mother Rendora? Then mother, is
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  Speaker 4: that amazing?
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes when people see us on this street, to be lying,
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  Speaker 5: we just say we're sisters.
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  Speaker 4: You did you ever see my older daughter? We look
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  Speaker 4: exactly alike.
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  Speaker 2: I saw your I saw your Christmas card on your
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  Speaker 2: Instagram and I noticed that that you looked exactly alike.
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  Speaker 2: But I did meet your youngest daughter, and she's lovely.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. She's she's very she's very tall. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: my oldest one is very short. It's so funny, but
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  Speaker 4: we look like clones. And when people see her they
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  Speaker 4: think it's funny. They'll stop her in the street and
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  Speaker 4: be like, you're you're Gen's daughter, right, like they when
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  Speaker 4: she was young, Like you know, she's like you Gen's daughter,
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  Speaker 4: aren't you. They're like, yeah, yeah, because they couldn't tell
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  Speaker 4: like she it looks like she was only made by me.
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  Speaker 4: It's exactly. But you guys look a lot alike. And
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  Speaker 4: you have how many other you have two other daughters.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yes, so Gabriella is in the middle. We have
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  Speaker 2: Lauren and Gabriella and then Sophia my baby. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: But Gabrielle and I we just like the same things,
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  Speaker 2: do the same things. We're almost the same person.
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  Speaker 4: So do you feel and you feel like you guys
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  Speaker 4: do the most together.
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  Speaker 1: We do.
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  Speaker 5: We have a lot of the same interests, like pageantry
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  Speaker 5: and reality TV, and you know, just going to different
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  Speaker 5: events and meeting different people. Where are my sisters? They
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  Speaker 5: like going to school, going to like the museum, and
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  Speaker 5: like reading books.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we don't want about books. If I get
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  Speaker 2: my book, I all of a sudden start fall asleep.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not a very good reader. We do a
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  Speaker 2: lot of family things. Yesterday we went to Block Island
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  Speaker 2: as a family. We'll go bike riding as a family.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do things as a family.
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  Speaker 1: Mom and I are getting booked and busy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, booked and busyoked and busy. So do the other
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  Speaker 4: girls get upset that you spend more time with Gab
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  Speaker 4: than with them.
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  Speaker 2: They really don't. And I do get a lot of
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  Speaker 2: hate online.
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  Speaker 5: People can't understand it. They're like, oh my goodness, they're
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  Speaker 5: probably so jealous. It's like jealous. You think my sisters,
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  Speaker 5: if you met them or you saw them on our
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  Speaker 5: reality show, you think that they want to be dressing
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  Speaker 5: a matching right, going in pageants and walking in runway shows.
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  Speaker 1: They would never they would.
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  Speaker 4: Never want to their personality.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and it would actually be it would actually be
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  Speaker 5: weird to like force someone to do what they're like
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  Speaker 5: not meant to do. So it's actually nice that my
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  Speaker 5: mom doesn't force them to match with us, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know exactly because and and you know, people don't understand that.
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  Speaker 4: I think when they when they have an image of
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  Speaker 4: you and they're looking at you on your show, which
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  Speaker 4: you are on a very popular show, and it's about
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  Speaker 4: mothers and daughters and about their relationships and about the
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  Speaker 4: commonalities in your relationships. Yes, I guess they kind of
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  Speaker 4: think that it's I don't. I mean I don't. They
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  Speaker 4: think it's like, are you just picking one child? And
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  Speaker 4: they don't see that, you know, not every child is
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  Speaker 4: the same, like when you I have three daughters and
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  Speaker 4: they're all completely different exactly where one is like I
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  Speaker 4: could do everything with her or certain things with with
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  Speaker 4: with her, and the other ones are like, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to force the other ones to do the same
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  Speaker 4: activity if they don't want to do it. But if
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  Speaker 4: I like something and the other ones don't and my
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  Speaker 4: one daughter does, it's not like I'm excluding them. They
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  Speaker 4: don't want to do it exactly, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: force them to do it. So it's not you shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: take that as being all.
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  Speaker 2: She takes it well, No, I mean I love them all.
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  Speaker 2: They're my girls, and I support them different ways. Like
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  Speaker 2: the little one, she is a dancer, so we go
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  Speaker 2: to dance competitions. We carry their suitcases and their rack
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  Speaker 2: and roll in all the ten costumes, so we support
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  Speaker 2: them in different ways. And the sisters we call them
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  Speaker 2: the sisters. They asked the show they happened to be
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  Speaker 2: the fan favorites. Yes, and you know it wasn't something
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  Speaker 2: that they would sign up for.
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  Speaker 1: Now, they definitely wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: They they like it.
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  Speaker 5: They secretly liked it. They said that they didn't, but
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  Speaker 5: you know, well, my little sister's a foodie. So on set,
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  Speaker 5: you get free food, right, and so she was all
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  Speaker 5: about that every single day, the free lunch.
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  Speaker 1: She loved it. So that's how we got her.
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  Speaker 2: She was happy.
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  Speaker 4: Now, where do you sit in in the in the
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  Speaker 4: in the like in the dye the family, you're too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the middle child, which everyone thinks I'm the oldest,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm the middle child.
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  Speaker 4: No, I could tell you're a middle child because they're
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  Speaker 4: most flamboyant. Yeah, my middle one is the most. You know,
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  Speaker 4: she's the most you know, has the most personality, and
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  Speaker 4: she's very funny and she's very personable. So I could
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  Speaker 4: yeah you are, and yeah, yeah you could tell she is.
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  Speaker 4: And she's very loving.
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  Speaker 2: Ever since she was born, ever since she was a baby,
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  Speaker 2: Like she was always attached to me. If I was
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  Speaker 2: on the phone with the friend or they'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: oh here, Gabrielle next to you. So she was always
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  Speaker 2: like attached to me. Doesn't mean that the other ones weren't.
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  Speaker 2: It just means that we're just very close.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a great thing.
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  Speaker 5: And even though I'm getting older, like my mom still
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  Speaker 5: packs my lunch and she does my laundry. And yes,
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  Speaker 5: I live at home, but I'm saving a ton of money.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want Now, how old are you? I'm twenty four,
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  Speaker 4: twenty four, okay, so you're the same the same as
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  Speaker 4: my middle she's gonna be twenty five in September. But
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  Speaker 4: that would you all you are developing your own you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you are your own tracks, yea, and your
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  Speaker 4: own pathway in life. Your mom is just really here
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  Speaker 4: to kind of go along with you at this point,
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  Speaker 4: you know. Yeh, she's been through her. You're tracked in
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  Speaker 4: your life, you're doing and now you're kind of supporting
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  Speaker 4: your daughter now, which is beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, supporting her and actually we're living life together and
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  Speaker 2: it's actually I think it's an inspiration that it's almost
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  Speaker 2: like my second chance. I mean, you know, doing the
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  Speaker 2: fashion shows and the runway walks and going to these
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  Speaker 2: events were things I wanted to do twenty or twenty
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  Speaker 2: five years ago, but you know, we're raising these kids. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, when you're raising kids, it's hard to
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  Speaker 2: travel because they're in school and they're in all of
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  Speaker 2: their activities and sports and dance. So it's wonderful now
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  Speaker 2: that we are able to do it together. And I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't want it any other way, and I honestly I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't either.
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  Speaker 5: At first, I was like, send me on a dating show,
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  Speaker 5: let's go to the islands. But now I'm like, this
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  Speaker 5: is amazing because my mom's little there with me twenty
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  Speaker 5: four to seven. We honestly don't get sick or tired
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  Speaker 5: of each other at all, and we're just doing it
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  Speaker 5: all together and.
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  Speaker 4: You're enjoying the experience. How Low Love You guys been
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  Speaker 4: doing the show.
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  Speaker 5: Not long, So this was our first season of the show.
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  Speaker 5: So it honestly feels like we've been doing it in
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  Speaker 5: our entire lives, because I think when you're meant to
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  Speaker 5: do something, that's just how it feels. And I've always
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  Speaker 5: felt like personally I was destined for more than just
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  Speaker 5: a normal girl's life.
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  Speaker 1: Like I didn't go to college.
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  Speaker 5: I went to cosmetology school, and so like I love hairdressing,
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  Speaker 5: and then during the pandemic, I found my love for
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  Speaker 5: creating content on social media. So I'm an influencer content creator,
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  Speaker 5: and so I love that and now the reality show,
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  Speaker 5: it's all coming together and I really love it all.
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  Speaker 4: Do you also do any Are you a dancer too?
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  Speaker 4: Do you dance as well? I?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I was a dancer when I was younger,
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  Speaker 5: but not so much anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But you can, I can.
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  Speaker 1: You never know, but you can.
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  Speaker 4: And as you started doing the you know, the en
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  Speaker 4: being an influencial, because that's what happens a lot during
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  Speaker 4: the pandemic is when people were on social media and
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  Speaker 4: everybody's you know, content spikes and everything else. Did you
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  Speaker 4: what was your path before then? Like where did you
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  Speaker 4: see yourself going? Did you want to get into like
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  Speaker 4: fashion or modeling or was that like something that you
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  Speaker 4: were drawn to before that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I started doing cosmetology hoping that I
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  Speaker 5: would love it, and I loved it even more than
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  Speaker 5: I thought I did. My backup plan was to be
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  Speaker 5: a flight attendant because I love seeing the world from above,
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  Speaker 5: but honestly, that would not have worked out because me
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  Speaker 5: serving people honestly.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be flying motion sickness to come with you.
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  Speaker 5: You yeah, because I love staying in nice hotels. But anyways,
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  Speaker 5: it's just yeah, it all comes together, but pageant.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So then I started into pageantry. And my mom's a
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  Speaker 5: form of Miss Connecticut ussay, so I've been following in
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  Speaker 5: her footsteps.
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  Speaker 4: That Connecticut US.
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  Speaker 2: She was a little while ago.
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  Speaker 4: It was last year.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, last year, last year's ago.
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  Speaker 4: There I go, that's amazing. So you so what was
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  Speaker 4: your when did you line up in the in the finals,
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  Speaker 4: Like when you went to Miss when MISSUS America? So
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  Speaker 4: I like miss I didn't know it's Miss America, but
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  Speaker 4: always MISSUS pageants.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, yes, and then Miss USA would go to
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  Speaker 2: Miss Universe where Miss America is a great system. I
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  Speaker 2: was in that system because I was a dancer, ballet
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  Speaker 2: on points, but I never could like win. It was
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  Speaker 2: always first runner up, second runner up, no runner up.
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  Speaker 2: But I never gave up. So after many years of trying,
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  Speaker 2: I did win. I went to Miss USA. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: p se place. But Connecticut isn't a big pageant state.
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  Speaker 2: You usually have to you know, California, Texas the second always.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I remember when.
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  Speaker 4: I was some belt is always the big I think
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  Speaker 4: it was.
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  Speaker 2: Five years in a row, Texas one, Miss USA, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and went to Miss Universe.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, she should have won Miss USA and ben Miss
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  Speaker 5: Universe anyways, but you got it.
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  Speaker 1: That's old.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why I started following in her footsteps to
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  Speaker 5: kind of, you know, finish what she started. But currently
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  Speaker 5: I am off of the pageant circuit after a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of controversy in the pageant industry.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I'm allowed to talk
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  Speaker 1: about it too much.
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  Speaker 4: Now you got to tell me something.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Oh what do I tell you?
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  Speaker 4: I was actually gonna ask you about that, but you
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  Speaker 4: brought it up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, you know, I'll just.
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  Speaker 5: I'll just say that. You know, I work very hard
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  Speaker 5: and I'm very serious competitor, and you know my mom
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  Speaker 5: is my coach. On the show, you see a lot
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  Speaker 5: of unconventional training methods. We put our all into this.
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  Speaker 5: I have a gown designer in New York City. I
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  Speaker 5: create my own gown and the beating is custom made
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  Speaker 5: in India. Like we go in, we go to win.
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  Speaker 5: And when you put so much work in and you
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  Speaker 5: don't get the result, you're looking for it's hard. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, if you mess up, that makes sense. But
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  Speaker 5: if you don't mess up and you're just like hmm,
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  Speaker 5: what was.
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  Speaker 1: It, you know, that's hard.
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  Speaker 5: And so this past year, not everything added up. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I was on my A game and just things didn't
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  Speaker 5: add up, and it was kind of an environment where
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  Speaker 5: it was just a bit fishy, and so you kind
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  Speaker 5: of have to look at yourself and say, I know
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  Speaker 5: my worth, I know my value, and I'm not going
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  Speaker 5: to go back to a place that doesn't value me
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  Speaker 5: and what I bring to the table. So we are well,
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  Speaker 5: I am walking away gracefully because I know that my
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  Speaker 5: path is a lot bigger than the pageant industry can
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  Speaker 5: even bring me.
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  Speaker 2: And other pageants have reached out as well that wants
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  Speaker 2: her to compete. However, I think that being on the
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  Speaker 2: reality show and all of her social media platform did
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  Speaker 2: play a role.
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  Speaker 1: It actually hurt me.
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  Speaker 2: And you would think that it would be helpful.
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  Speaker 5: Because I could offer so much to the pageant industry,
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  Speaker 5: so much good press.
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  Speaker 2: But and that's what we wanted to do, is to
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  Speaker 2: really give good publicity to the pageant system, and they,
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  Speaker 2: for some reason did not want someone that was on
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  Speaker 2: Reality TV. Even though I think our show was positive,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I need to plex mother daughter.
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  Speaker 4: It flicks.
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  Speaker 5: But there was a there was a big, big controversy
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  Speaker 5: on social media for a little bit there surrounding me,
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  Speaker 5: and it was crazy. But honestly, I spoke my truth
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  Speaker 5: and I will always speak my truth even if no
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  Speaker 5: one agrees. I know my truth, and I know what happened,
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  Speaker 5: and I know what I saw and even some things
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't allowed to say.
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  Speaker 1: But it was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Did you did you feel like now were you aiming
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  Speaker 4: to go towards trying to get like Miss Connecticut or
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  Speaker 4: like roll into mischief? You would?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was competing for Miss Connecticut USSA to
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  Speaker 5: go be Miss Ussa. But honestly, like on the show,
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  Speaker 5: you see em compete for Miss Connecticut Ussay, I get
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  Speaker 5: fourth runner up, and that year I was so prepared.
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  Speaker 5: I was prepared to be Miss Ussa. Last year when
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  Speaker 5: I competed, I was ready to.
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  Speaker 1: Be Miss Universe.
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  Speaker 5: Like if you saw my gown on that stage, you
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  Speaker 5: would to say, put her at Miss Universe. I could
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  Speaker 5: have won Miss Universe in that gown. And I'm not
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  Speaker 5: even being cocky, I am being straight up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm objective when I watch. When we watch pageants together,
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  Speaker 2: I can always basically pick the winner.
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  Speaker 4: You never whatever, you've been in there, You've been down
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  Speaker 4: this road, been in it, so you're not.
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  Speaker 2: When she came out this past April, when she was
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  Speaker 2: in the pageant, I mean there was no competition, and
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  Speaker 2: not just because she was my daughter, yes, and they
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  Speaker 2: had to get her off that stage.
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  Speaker 5: Faste, like they didn't even off. There were people trying
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  Speaker 5: disqualify me before I even competed, and things like that
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  Speaker 5: were fishy, and so we were just like, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: this is not place for us.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we don't have that spirit, but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people have like a jealous spirit.
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  Speaker 5: Where they don't want to see others succeed and they
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  Speaker 5: don't want to see others thrive.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why we just push.
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  Speaker 2: Ourselves for it that you know, yes, were she was
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  Speaker 2: going to follow in you know, my footsteps and be
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful representation, do a lot of charity work in
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  Speaker 2: the state and the USA and go to Miss Ussay.
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  Speaker 2: Really like when I look at a at a contestant,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to say, on the local level, is that
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  Speaker 2: person ready to win? Miss u essay, is that person
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  Speaker 2: ready for Miss Universe? She was ready, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think personally in watching it, yeah, they wanted to
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  Speaker 2: get her off fast, yeah and kick me out because
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  Speaker 2: of the reality show and all of her success and
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  Speaker 2: the social media. They didn't really want her.
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  Speaker 5: But this also doesn't downplay like any of the other girls,
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  Speaker 5: because like, we're only competing against ourselves. So when I say,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Connecticut's a small pageants state, you know, there
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  Speaker 5: wasn't really much competition. There were all only a couple
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  Speaker 5: of girls competing. So right, it's not it's not like any.
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  Speaker 2: Califul Texas, Texas you have hundreds of girls, you have
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  Speaker 2: a handful. In Connecticut. There's there was what seventeen Wow,
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  Speaker 2: and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That was old And they couldn't even put me in
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  Speaker 1: a top five for all that.
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  Speaker 4: I am please now right now you look like she
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  Speaker 4: should be. Please no, like right now I can see
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  Speaker 4: everything now. It's totally the staff, the whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and what they don't show is like ore in
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: person interview, but they do film it. And so I
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: got it back and I was like, it's like, come on.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean totally when you talk you sound like
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: like do you have a one? Did you ever see
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: the movie with with Sandra Bullock when she puts out
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Stacey free Bush, Stacy Lou free Bush and when they're
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: all talking and they're all giving like their answers like
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: and that's just the parody of it. But you sound
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: like a person giving a beautiful answer and like just
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: you sound like this university ready give.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: But you know that's the thing is like I do
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: still very much support pageantry because it is what made
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: me so comfortable speaking in front of so many people,
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: and it gave me so much confidence on stage. I mean,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: I think I did go into having a lot of
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: confidence on stage, but you know you strutten on stage
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: in eight inch heels in a bikini, and you know
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: there's no to do that. Yeah, there's no other opportunity
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: So I do support.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Pageantry confidence to go on age heels in my clothes,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: have confidence to do that because I'm always tripping and falling. Yeah,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: I cannot walk in heels.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: It's wild, It's I don't know what.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Happened my equilibriums. Well, I don't know what's going on.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: But do you feel like the pageant industry has changed
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: over the years, you think that it's different now, Do
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: you feel like it's seen competition that it was or
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: is it worse or is there is there more? Is
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: there more? Like I don't know what should I say?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: More like they're going to be pandering to certain people?
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Should I say?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I think there's politics and everything. But I think that
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: years ago it was a more elegant event. We had the.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Marine They literally had marines and like threw the swords
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: and then like the girls would like go through them.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: It's like so beautiful, Like they'd hold their hand.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: It was beautiful. And when I was there, it was yeah,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: and it was I think more of a accomplishment, where now.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, if you won Miss USA in the past,
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: you were instantly a celebrity. But nowadays it just doesn't
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: have that same effect, which is sad, you know, because
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I mean my mom was a Miss Connecticut USA, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: I was there following her footsteps to get that next goal.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: But you know, Godly said some crazy, crazy directions and
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: you know, we just got to lead with that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: It's fine, and plus she has her whole life ahead
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: of her. Things were different than of course for anything.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: But I thought it was more elegant than I thought that. Again,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the stage residence when I went, we were there for
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: almost three weeks. Yeah, they had a big stage. You know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: we were dancing, we were in different outfits. It was
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: a big to do. Where now I think the girls
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: are there for five days in and out by Yeah,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: it's crazy.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Do they still have a hole? Do they show it
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: on TV like they used to? Because I have?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: And that's another thing. They it's on a really not
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: anything that work.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Up until this point. It's I mean it's like streaming somewhere.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: It's not on a good network. I forgot. I think
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: mine was on NBC. We did commercials, it's a big thing.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: We have big sponsors. Now remember that there's no nothing.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: So I think perhaps it's gone a little bit south.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but honestly, like for us, we just we found
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: our love for reality TV because we can have our
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: big personalities and we could be bold and we can
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: say whatever you want. And I mean we get recognized
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: on the street constantly, which is so fun. And I
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: mean we were in Black Island yesterday and people are
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: literally dming me.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Are you in Black Island right now? I see you?
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: They're in my comment section like I literally was behind
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: you and it's crazy, but it's really nice and they
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: come up and like want to take pictures of us.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we love it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Do you wear the same I mean, do you wear
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: the same clothes every day?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: We do literally every day.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: It's not just and this is not just Fativa, It's
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: not you just wear you. I mean honestly you wear
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: them every day. Yes, when you go home and you'll
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: have a sweatsuit on, your mom is wearing the same one.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, same pjs, same everything. And it's funny because you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: it would honestly be really inauthentic to just do it
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: for the show and then not do it in real life.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: But it's funny.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Like one day my mom picked me up in the
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: salon and we were like not matching for like one.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Like literally I think we went out like maybe were
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: her black?
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: I wear like decked out black and like big platform boots, right,
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: and like she's working with the radio station, She's not
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: gonna wear it be wearing an all black sexy outfit, right.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: So I think she picked me up one day and
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: we went out and we of course get spotted and
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: we're not matching. We're like I swear always, always, always,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: but we were like, we.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Got to go home and change.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: We can't be all like this because we are very
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: authentic and everything that we do, and you know, and
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: then they want pictures and we're like, great, it's all
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: over the internet. Now it's not matching.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But I know.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: So you still work in the salon now?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I do, yes, And it's flexible.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: So I mean our schedules, our work schedules are flexible,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: so that that makes things nice as well.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: So if we have an event, we honestly are both
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: we literally are the same person, like We're both so
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: like work driven. Like I'm still a stylist. I still
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: work behind the chair. I love my clients. We have
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: the best time just spilling the tea all day and
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: I make them look beautiful. But then when I'm not
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: at the salon, I'm creating content and then going to
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: events with my mom and then figuring out what show
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: we're doing next, So it's all it's all good.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: And what do you? And what what do you? Is
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: your job now?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: So well, I write a newspaper column. I've written it
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: for years. It's an inspirational column. It's been in papers
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: for many years, Like half my life and books. But
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: and you know I always I always had my career.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I was home with the girls. I stayed
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: home for ten years to raise them, but always did
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: my comment books. And I also work for radio station.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: So yes, she voices commercials too. Sometimes you hear on
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: the radio.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: But I work for a radio station. So I'll go
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: into businesses and get the sponsors.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: We're all in pr we.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Have we have a we have a nice we have
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: a person here that does that too. I'm gonna introduce
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: you to She's great.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yes for now, but I think, you know, in the
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: coming months, I don't know that we'll be still in
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: their regular jobs. I think it's going to get to
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the point sooner then later where you know, maybe we're
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: just doing the show and whatnot.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: For we have a lot of big dreams and goals.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: You know, we don't got like one hundred years here,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: you know, come on.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Come on out, you still have time.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, but yeah, I don't know.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, you know you want to now sometimes things like
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: get on hold because you know this industry, like say,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: you know, it's not great to have a boyfriend right now,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: you know, because it's like this is the industry where
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: you have to be like on the move, you're on
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: the go.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Like you think I have time to make a man dinner.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't even cook.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I don't period, that's never gonna happen. Take out, but
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: like I don't even have time to go. I hate
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the movies too. What am I saying? I'm just now.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: So if you were dating somebody, what would you like
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: to do with them? Since you do everything with your mom?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I know my mom's gonna come to dinner, yeah.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: For sure, So your mom will come on dates with.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You, you know, matching, matching.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: But the only time I get to go out on
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: dates alone is I actually do speed dating at the
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: salon okay.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: And it's really fun.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: So I just tell the guys, I'm like, well, if
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: you want to spend time with me, you have to
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: come and pay for my time. Thirty minutes in and out,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: I'll cut your hair. I'm gonna see how you look.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: And all the girls are in on it. This is
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: our little secret. But I mean, you know how long
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: it takes to get ready for a date, Like if
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: you were gonna take me out to dinner, I'm gonna
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna get ready for an hour, then I'm gonna
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: be two hours on the date, just to know in
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: five minutes you're not even interesting and not impressive at all.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: No, So I think God speeding is perfect. Especially really Wae.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Could know somebody and like the first five minutes.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: You know, oh yeah for.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Sure that I do agree with. Yeah, you know, if
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: there's cameras red, what do you look for in a guy?
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Do you look for it? Do they have to be
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: handsome or funny?
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Definitely a little bit of both. You have to like
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: look good in pictures next to me, obviously, but you
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: have to be funny like, and you could be weird
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: because I'm weird. But you also have to be very ambitious,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: like in your career, because like I'm building my own empires,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: so I would hope that you're building your own and
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: very you know, very ambitious towards your own goals and
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: kind of independent in that. And I just think that
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: way we can push each other to be better, because
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: if you're you know, I don't know, working at the
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: dollar store, there's nothing wrong with that, but you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: you have to be super ambitious to your goals the
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: way I could be impressed by you because I think
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: that's very attractive.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Definitely, Well, I have to, I think, for I think
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: that it's more point for somebody to entertain me, because
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: if I don't, somebody could be so good looking, but
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: if they have no personality and they're boring, for sure,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: even they wouldn't get past the first five minutes.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I also think that you are an entrepreneur, you're a
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: very successful woman, You're gorgeous. You need somebody that's going
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to be well. It's true that ye be intimidated by that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: You have your own things going, and I don't know
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: that there's a lot of guys that I don't know
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that I would encourage that kind.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Of Yeah, I think it's hard.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Independence.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's hard. I mean, as much as we
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: say we're liberated as women, and you know, it's still
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I hate to say, it's still a man's world. It is.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: As much as they try to mask it, it's still
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: it is, no matter what it is. But you know
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: it's okay. I don't mind. I don't. I still like
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: my door open for me. I still don't. I still
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: want sure as power.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Oh for sure, where are the flowers take me out
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: to dinner? Like obviously you're gonna pay, I'm gonna be
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: the princess because you know, feminine energy we receive.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, So you feel that you feel that that women
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: should still be put on a pedestal.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, I do, and I think that, like I am
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: very confident in myself, so I could kind of have
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: that like not dominant energy, but kind of. So I think,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: you know, sitting in your feminine energy and you know
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: the man opens the door, and you know you're taking
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: out to dinner and you're treated like a woman. I
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: think that's very important and.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I love to hear that because I think that the
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: new feminists of today they try to take away, are femininists.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that will be a level of both.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: You know what, I don't want to be a man.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know a.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Woman an awful woman, I do, yes, but I still
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: want to be treated like a lady. Yes, and sure
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: that's important for women to be treated that way. Yeah,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: it is. That doesn't make us lower, No, it actually
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: makes us more powerful. Yes, if you think about that.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: If they're doing stuff for us correct and catering to us,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: that makes us more we are the exactly That's the
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: way I agree with that and I and I like
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: to hear that from from from girls of your generation
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: because you know, I think that it's especially now with
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: dating with where is it we are people dating on
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: the internet and social media. I feel so bad for
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: all of you because it is so hard these days.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: It is really hard to find somebody because it's like
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: it's so many, so many people at your fingertips, you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: and it's like it's it's hard. I see, I see
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: it's hard. It's not. It's not the way it used
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: to be. What would be the only way we can
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: go out and meet somebody either you know them you grow.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Up, or you go to a bar or a club
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: and they got to come to the house, right, I'm
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: just saying it, honestly, you have to pick you up
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: like you have to meet the parents.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I mean there's there would be no I would have been.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: You know what we should do is we should have like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: you should just arrange me a man, because mom, she
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: can she will find a good one. She'll be like,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: she'll look at and if he even like bread's wrong,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: She's like, eh, no, Well I.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Think look it it's a big, long story, but I
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: think you know, you have to look at the family,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: look at how they were raised, look at who they
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: come from. And I think you also have to know
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: someone for a very long time. Yes, but you know
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: we have plenty of time. Like that's why we're really
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: just focusing on the career doing anything together.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: But I wouldn't happen to It's gonna happen.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and one day when she does meet someone, if
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: she does, we'll just he'll just be in the middle
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of us.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: He's gonna like that.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have to be He's gonna have to love
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the mama.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, the mama, Mama bear is.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: He needs a great relationship with you. If he's gonna
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: have a great relationship with me, for sure.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: It's important. No, it's true.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: She had a boyfriend. He had a very good relationship
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: with the family. He was over I mean he was.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: But like, my next man has to like know that
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: my mom and I are going to spend a lot
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: of time together and totally be a okay with that
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: because this is our career.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Right and it's well, you know what, you you're gonna
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: somebody is gonna is gonna love Who's gonna love you?
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Is gonna love you for everything and understand what you're
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: doing right.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And Will's has your back more than if you have
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: a good mother.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm just saying.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: It is like, you know, I'll have your back, I'll
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: have your back. I have my girls back, you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: my friends back. But there's not that many people like that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: A lot of people will more like stab you in
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the back instead of have your back. If you have
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: one or two friends that you can call and really
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: rely on and through thick and thin. And I feel
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: like I'm that for her and my girls and you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: my you know, my close buddies, because that's very important
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: to be able to go through life, to know that
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: you don't have to worry that you're gonna be safe.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: No, it's true, and you feel like I mean, I
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: know that I feel like this. I mean with my girls,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's there. They have become my like
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: little MC say, army, but my little there, my there
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: might they've become my friends. And I'm glad that I
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: have that closeness with them, you know. And I have
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: a few handfuls of exactly. But my grandma always said
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: if you could count on your hands, realizing that you
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: had that many friends because they yourself. Oh.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I just said that same quote to you.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: It's very it's very true. When when you get older,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: it's a lot easier to let people go out of
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: your life. Oh yeah, well all right, no one't take care,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: don't call us, We'll call you. Yeah, take it. No,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: it's true. Yeah, it's and if you learn that at
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: a younger age, it's a lot easier because you become
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: when you're so emotionally invested into somebody that's not good
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: for you, even friends.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it's hard.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: We found out, like with the show Like People.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: That people turn on you once you get on a TV.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, like we continue.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: We thought it was a blessing.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: No one saw the twenty five years of rejection that
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I had and kept standing up. Yeah, no one saw
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the tragedies that I I have been through.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: You know what I kept standing. They don't care. That's
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: what the sick. They only care what they see now.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: They don't care what you went through to get there.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: They don't exactly, they don't care. And once you realize that,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: that's how you know who the people should you should be.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: And I've been doing social media for four years and
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: we've had such positive comments, Like my comment section has
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: been like people hype me up right, And then we
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: got on the show and we and you know, we've
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: always done mother daughter content and everyone loved it and
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: like maybe if you love.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Her up we've started because and I don't have We
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: did these like transitions use the phone, yeah no, it
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to me and said, okay, mom, do this.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: I produced the tiktoks, like the first one that went
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: mega viral. We were sitting in a chair and I
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: threw the shoe and the leg went up and then
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: she caught the shoe in her foot and the transition
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: went and then it was fabulous.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: When mega viral people ate it up. They loved it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. We kept doing more. So yeah, we
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: got on the show.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: We get on the show, people are like rip you
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: apart online and it's crazy, yeah, crazy, like ripping me off,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: like terrible things like why I'm close to my daughter?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: So what We always mashed my girls from the time
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: they were born.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: All Sometimes it's funny like now you can like kind
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: of laugh at it, but.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Would you have to take it where it's coming from
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you understand. You know this is a lot. Yeah, not
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: everybody is gonna be in your corner. I mean, I
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: had somebody fight with me on my Instagram the other
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: day about because I because I'm doctor Jen, You're not
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: a real doctor. You're not a medical doctor. I oh, okay,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I know that, but I'm I have a PhD and
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: that's my title, so I'm gonna call gonna use it doctor. Yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I said, I never said I was a medical doctor.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I am a nurse practitioner a d NP. But I
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: went to more schooling than the same amount. Yes, I
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: have a doctor titled. You know what a PhD?
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: A doctor? Why? Then my daughter times it because she's
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: seen it and she's annoyed. Now you know what, why
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: am I even bothering? I said, you know what, obviously
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: you're not educated enough to even know what a doctoral
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: degree is. Why don't you look it up before you
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: come and say something on my baby?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Exactly?
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: And it was literally because they I was because I
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: had tagged the video with somebody else that they don't like.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: Now they're attacking me, Well, are you kidding me? They
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: have nothing better? Media is crazy about my my educational.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: And your title, Like, what does that have to do
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: with her?
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Right? What does that have to do with me?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Oh well whatever. But this is what I'm saying is
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: that you don't even realize that people will hate you.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: You don't even know that they hate you or the
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: jealous of you, and they just are and they don't care.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Like I said, they don't care how you got there,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: they don't care what you did. No, they don't care
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: of you.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I We're not hurt and nobody.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: We just having some fun, create cool, crazy content that
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: you know, turns heads and we have fun with it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: We love is so like why not?
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: And you gotta keep doing it, keep doing it for yourself,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: to screw the people that you can say something because
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: that's the way I am. Now, I'm like, you know
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: what exactly, I'm never gonna make everybody happy, Yeah, never, never.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not everybody's gonna like me. Not everybody's gonna You know,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: when I used to listen, when I first started my business,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: if I got a bid Yelp review, I would go
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: home at night and cry.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Course, but then I would sit and now my my
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: and my my husband was saying with gent, but you
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: have a thousand great reviews, you're gonna get upset over
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: one idiot. Course, And now it's in perspective now that like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: you know, because I do on multiple businesses, and now
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I see the I usually look at the person what
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: they review about somebody else, and then I'm like, they
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: don't give anybody nice to a review because that person
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: is a miserable person. So now I don't let that
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: bother me anymore because I'm like, you know, obviously I
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: just can't make everybody happy, and it's okay.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: You go to want to bring you down because you're successful.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Exactly, Well they're not happy because I look at it
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: that way that they're not a happy person.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Hurting people hurt others, right, hurt people, hurt people.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like we're not gonna stop.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: I mean we one of the best parts about it
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: is we get matching dresses sent to us, and you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: the brands love it because we hit those two generations,
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: you know, I, you know younger. I drive a pink
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Cheep actually, so the like really young kids will actually
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: come into the salon and be.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Like, where's the pink cheep? Is the pink Cheep girl here?
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: So I target like very young kids to like teens
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: to twenties, and then my mom's got the thirty and up,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: so we really hit all those gen.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: All the what is it generations?
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Generations?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Big word, big word, It's true.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Do you where do you see you going from here?
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Besides being on the show, what is your Yeah, what
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: is your next step? You think, well, what do you
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: see in the future? Let's do five y point?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm both of you right now.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: I feel like we're living the dream and it's like
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: I said, feels like we've been doing it forever. So
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: continuing on reality TV, I definitely want to go on
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: like some game shows. I think we'd be great as
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: like a duo appearance on game shows. I want to
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: continue modeling like we walk in New York Fashion Week,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: Miami Swim Week, and then I want to do print
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: modeling for like campaigns, like in a store, like imagine
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: going into Alta and then just like seeing your campaign,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: so some print work will be really fun. And then
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: continuing to just build on social media, do really big
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: brand deals, and continue at the salon because I love
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: it and I love working with different people, and then
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: just continue to go to events and meet different people.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: And that's how we met exactly.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: And I know, like do podcast things like this, It's
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: so fun, Like I love all the opportunities.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: What about you?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that we're very goal oriented.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, we literally have a dream board.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: We have a mother daughter dream board.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: I love that. I'd love to see that one.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you should actually make one with your girl.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: So you know, we get the board. We cut out
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: pictures of our dreams. We write them down. Sometimes we'll
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: put dates. So I think the top three would be
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: to continue on with our reality TV collectively. And then
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: can I say that word spin off.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: I don't like to put things out there until they're there,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: you know, But I mean, but it's true.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: We would love to have a spin off one day.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, so we would like that in the in the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: near future. And again, continue to meet people, to network
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: and just to be together is the most important thing.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: And to live a healthy lifestyle. You know, people know me,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: they know I love my Celery juice every morning.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't work out a lot. I work out.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I live you know, very healthy lifestyle.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: You don't drink.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I've never drank anything, I've never smoked anything. I've never
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: done any drugs. I barely have an advil, but I've
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: never had a drink.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Wow, well you know what it shows, because you are
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: you look like you're twenty five years old, you know you. Yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: I can't believe I look the way I do with them.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You're driving, You're driving girls. I love it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I love a fun life. And that's why. And when
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: you asked me about cats and pudding, that's where I
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: came to the epiphany where I went from going out
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: to parties every night and going away and doing all
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: these fun things and I'm like hero Now I'm home
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: in my house, eating cats, eating cats, eating cats, eating
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: putting and stroking my cat. Yeah, but I still go to.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Somebody still, Okay, it's a balance.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: It is a balance.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I think that like life is very difficult at times,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and I think my personality would be when you have
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: a set back or a challenge or something happens, I
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: probably would be an alcoholic. I would. I would. It's crazy,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: it's be keep to I'm kind of an all or nothing,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: kind of scorpio girl, all or knock orpio. So I
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: think that was the reason. And I just always wanted
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: to be in like my right mind. And again, like
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I lost my mom at a young age, so I
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: had to kind of grow up very fast and you know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: take care of myself. So yeah, there's nothing wrong if
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: people want a social drink or whatever, but for.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Me, it's just not it's yeah, me neither. I'm not
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: a I don't. First of all, I just I don't
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: like to taste of alcohol, so almost I'm done with it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: I just can't. I don't like the way it tastes anymore.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: So no, I didn't. We didn't. I did enough drinking
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: in my life.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Now we go with the cats and the pudding. Now
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I like, no, it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Is I just can't. I don't have time to like
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: software a hangover because now.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: When I don't have anything, you're a business woman.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Even if I have wanted to drink the next And another.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Thing I think that for the future is we love animals.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: We're very philanthropic. I love to be able to give back.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: So whatever that we do in the future, I do
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: animal rescue.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: And we all like we have six shuahas we are,
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: we have chickens in the back, we got rabbits, like
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: we got a whole farm at our house.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Like with the radios we live in Connecticut, so I
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: do at least two rescues a month, you know, pet
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: animal adoption events like different locations. So I would continue
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to want to work with my animal rescues, maybe even
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: start our own one day, starting with animal I really like,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: you know, I like to give back. You know, we're
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: doing a fashion show actually at Yankee Stadium right before
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the game during New York Fashion Week, and it's another
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: kind of charity. So anything that's that's charity related that,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you know, we could make a difference. But I also
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: think you can make a difference right in your own community.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: You can make a difference with just you know, being
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: nice to someone. You know, what's the what's you're saying?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I think my mother said, you know, always
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: imagine that somebody has on their forehead, you know, be
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: kind or you know, be nice to everyone, or give
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: me a compliment. I mean that costs nothing to just
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: be kind to someone.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: That's so true, right, just just like pretty nice?
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: What it?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Make people smile?
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, like so, I like I said, I drive
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: a pink jeep, and literally every single time we're in
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: this jeep, if we like ever gaze over, people are
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: smiling and it just like it makes people's.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Days because they see you in jeep.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it makes people smile.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: And you have pink cheeps for your girls when they
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: were growing. I did, yes, yes, so the girls had
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: it and so she just.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Kind of and now I have a real pink jeep
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: and it's actually sparkly, which we love.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: And then you had a custom painted Yeah, so it's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: custom wrapped. They wrap them, so they wrap it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: I actually went in and I had I helped him,
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: so I saw the process. I was like, can I
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: do it? He was like, squeeze it on. So that
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: was fun made and then yes, and then on the show,
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: we also painted my front door pink, which my dad
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: allowed me to do.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: So what does that say about all of this?
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Dad goes along with it. Dad especially likes the
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: pink jeep. He's a big fan like we. He just
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: ordered me new door hinges that are white. He's like,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: let's deck it out some more.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I'm like, let's do it because it's a car.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: So yeah, Next I want to paint the garage doors pink.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: We have three big white garage doors, and like the
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: house is white, so that'll go gray.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I just paint the mailbox pink. My dad's like, and.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: He was okay with that. I mean, I don't know
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: about the garage doors. It's a big project. We got
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: to work on that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't know.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: We're gonna might need like a whole roller or something.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: But we have a very specific shade of pink. I
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: don't like light pink. The hot pink's too much. It's
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: a very Barbie pink pink. Yeah, like it's fabulous. Maybe
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: we'll paint the maybe we'll paint the pillars pink. Maybe
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: we'll just paint the whole house pink. Who knows, we
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: might just go crazy.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Whole house pink. Right, you should? I should. You should
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: totally do that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Where are we doing the inside of the house right now?
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: We're getting like redoing the hardwood floors, and I'm just like,
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: we need pink couches, pink accents everywhere because it's like
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: right now, it's giving, like modern farmhouse, and it's like.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: We're not farm girls.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: We live in Connecticut. We need to be giving like
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Brunette Barbie.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that you could totally pull that off.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: I love that, And you should do white and pink exactly.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I would totally. Your room is all set up like that.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, glitter, Why you.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Gotta send me pictures? I want to. I totally want
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: to and.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: All my shoes on the walls. Yeah, she gotta be
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: great taste.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I mean she has great taste.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: So whatever you both do, So whatever we can, beautiful
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: womenst we will. Just I want to come to see
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: the house when it's you gotta come over, and time
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: you gotta come to my house to pull.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Off I mean, I mean, imagine a man pulling up
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: to a pink house with the pink cheep.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: If I get a.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Man, what did I get myself?
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: If I get a man, you're gonna have to meet
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: him and interview him and be like, wow, you really
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: signed up for this.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I want to be the first one I have.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: You got it?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: The one? I want to be the one. I definitely.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, this was so much fun.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: You great.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I could talk to you, I know, but you have
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: to come back. I want to see how the progression
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: should come back in a few months and we could
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: talk more about how the show's going. Yes, what's your
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: next how your next adventures? Adventures have have come to pass?
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: I love to hear about it all and let everybody
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: know where to find you. And you know your your
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: handles on social media, go ahead, girl.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: So my Instagram is Gabriella Underscore Underscore Vigurito, and my
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: TikTok is Gabriella Underscore Vigurito, and then my Snapchat is
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: it's actually lgv GeV because my older sister and I
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: used to share a Snapchat account on my iPod when
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: I was younger, so it's her initials and mine put together.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: So I just kept it. So I'm now starting on Snapchat,
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: which is fun.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm on Instagram at Catherine Galasso Vigorito so and
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I'm on her tiktoks all the time.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, people request Mom to get her own TikTok, but
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: she's like, I'll just be on your you know what.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of talk. TikTok is a lot of work.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: It's want it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I'm on it. But you know, I really focus on
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: my social media, like on my Instagram. But and I'm
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: trying and YouTube of course because of this. But it's
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: but yeah, the TikTok is going. I put some funny
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: stuff on TikTok. I saw it. It's Okay, I mean
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: is another job. It's a job, for sure, it's a job.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: But I need help.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I got you.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: She can help you. She's fabulous at it all.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got to ask you for some more points,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: is well?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Got you.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: I'm so happy you both came.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I love you.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: And then my new buddies, my new friends. Absolutely so
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I'm welcome everybody, and thank you for coming to another
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: episode of Cats and Pudding. And I want to thank
• 44:46
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  Speaker 4: located in the heart Obridge with Queens. Thank you everyone,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: and welcome to another show of Cats and Pudding. That
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: was a great joke, went by so fast.