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Wicked Radio 10-3: Humor Wins The Shutdown Messaging & Hanoi Jane Fonda Is Back! · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: Yesterday into today with the whole new cycle we'll probably
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  Speaker 1: continue through the weekend into next week. Was a perfect
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  Speaker 1: example of why I'm always harping on the media messaging thing, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like the target of my era is always the media,
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  Speaker 1: because unfortunately, when you see how the media sausage is made,
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  Speaker 1: you can't unsee it. And I think, in my you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is just my worldview. All of these problems we
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  Speaker 1: have right now, if you want to see it that way,
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  Speaker 1: all created by this mass media that has been completely corrupted,
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  Speaker 1: not for the past five years, ten years, I mean decades.
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  Speaker 1: You start to fix that, and you start to fix
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  Speaker 1: a lot of problems. So there's a great update in
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  Speaker 1: trust in mainstream media. It's the lowest it's ever been.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the first good thing. But yesterday's news cycle,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, is such a classic example of how
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  Speaker 1: you win it and how things are changing. It should
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  Speaker 1: make you feel good. It really should, because one of
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  Speaker 1: the people coming out of the woodwork now for the
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  Speaker 1: messaging on happens to be the democratic side is none other.
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  Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe this then, Hanoi Jane Fonda. Now
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into story, this story about Jane Fonda for
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  Speaker 1: you youngsters who don't know why she was called back
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  Speaker 1: in the day, Hanoi Jane Vonda. But she's back, and
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  Speaker 1: she has a very prominent voice now in mainstream media.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a reason why you're seeing her two interviews
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in I don't know what fifteen years,
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  Speaker 1: maybe outside of a stupid award show ceremony or something.
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  Speaker 1: She's back and there's a reason why. And there's also
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  Speaker 1: a reason why the war on the messaging part of
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  Speaker 1: this whole government shutdowns being won by one of the sides,
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  Speaker 1: and it's because of humor. One side gets it and
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  Speaker 1: the other doesn't. But we'll get into that as well.
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  Speaker 1: But thanks for finding thanks for being here all week
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  Speaker 1: long throughout this whole news cycle. Welcome to Friday. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you have an awesome weekend. If it's Saturday or Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: when you're watching or listening later either the audio only
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  Speaker 1: podcast or the replay, welcome to you too. Thanks to
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  Speaker 1: the downloads, follows, all that good stuff, all your favorite platforms.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. We gotta start off with
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  Speaker 1: this a little bit different though. Let's not get into
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  Speaker 1: the nuts and the bolts and the numbers and the
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  Speaker 1: crunching and the of the government shutdown stuff. There's government budgets.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing more complicated or obtuse or boring to listen to.
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  Speaker 1: By design, by the way, and there's a reason why
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  Speaker 1: they do this. There's a reason why it's so complicated
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  Speaker 1: so that normal people like you and me don't pay attention,
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  Speaker 1: right because most of us are like I just tell me, okay,
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  Speaker 1: tell me what they settle on so I can adjust
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  Speaker 1: my life around it. That's usually how it happens. There's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different angle on this one though. This
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  Speaker 1: time around. It is a little bit different. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: in the messaging, which I'm keyed into. And also they're
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  Speaker 1: dead serious in this administration about cutting these programs and
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  Speaker 1: this is the opportunity I think they've been looking for.
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  Speaker 1: But let's give you the update, all right. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: the messaging, So this has been hilarious to follow all
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  Speaker 1: weekend long, all week long. Excuse me, you know about
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  Speaker 1: the memes. I spent a couple of days talking about this.
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  Speaker 1: It all starts off with the White House. Actually, President Trump,
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  Speaker 1: I won't even say the White House yet. President Trump
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  Speaker 1: reposting a video meme. You've all seen it. I showed
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  Speaker 1: it too, of Hakeem Jeffries and Chucky Schumer there and
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden the Mexican sombrero and the mariachi music,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is key to the story of Hakim.
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  Speaker 1: But what the story. The story here is. As we
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  Speaker 1: said the other day, it got people to laugh at this.
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  Speaker 1: It got people to look at and understand what it's
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  Speaker 1: all about. So that was the first indication that the
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  Speaker 1: messaging war on this to try to explain to people
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  Speaker 1: what's happening was being won by the administration, by the
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  Speaker 1: Trump White House because it was just brilliantly done. It's
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  Speaker 1: gotten God, I don't know. At this point days after
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  Speaker 1: tens of millions of hits, almost everybody has seen it.
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  Speaker 1: You bring this up at work, even the people who
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  Speaker 1: hate Trump will say, oh, I saw that. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: actually was pretty funny. It was effective, and it continues
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  Speaker 1: to roll on. But here's what's happened. Since I don't
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  Speaker 1: know whether if you can simplify it by just saying
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  Speaker 1: it's about taking a joke, but the Democrats aren't handling
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  Speaker 1: this well. Hakeem Jeffries went on multiple interviews explaining how
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  Speaker 1: upset he was about this, which of course led to
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  Speaker 1: more memes, and then of course it led to the
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  Speaker 1: Democrats trying to do the same thing and creating their
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  Speaker 1: own memes and making fun of Republicans. Here's the difference
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  Speaker 1: and is a great example with JD. Vance. So they
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  Speaker 1: always try to like make Jdvance like they try to
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  Speaker 1: AI image him up and make fun of it. He's
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  Speaker 1: actually taken that and made it his profile picture, like
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  Speaker 1: they think it's hilarious that the Republicans are laughing about this.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats are getting upset about it. And I don't understand why.
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  Speaker 1: You've got every creative director, every artist, actor, comedians for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, not all of them, but for the
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  Speaker 1: most part kind of identify with the Democrat party. Can we,
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  Speaker 1: you know, can we have a nice generalization to start
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  Speaker 1: off Friday and assume that right, Why don't they have
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  Speaker 1: any buddy on there, Let's call him their team that
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  Speaker 1: understands humor and can do this well in new media.
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  Speaker 1: It's I don't know how else to put this. They
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  Speaker 1: don't get it. And the most effective thing that the
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  Speaker 1: Republican team is doing right now is laughing at this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your perfect example on this and why they're winning
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  Speaker 1: the messaging war in this shutdown. You can't think of
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  Speaker 1: a more straight laced character in public life these days
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  Speaker 1: than Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, right. I mean
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  Speaker 1: straight laced, very straightforward, hardly ever cracks a smile. He's
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  Speaker 1: very serious about everything, you know, because he's in he's
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  Speaker 1: in politics. He is what he is. Even he pointed
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  Speaker 1: out the humor and the memes yesterday. Take a listen,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of you asked.
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  Speaker 2: Me this morning about sombreros and memes and why why
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  Speaker 2: how King Jefferies is all alarmed by that. Look, these
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  Speaker 2: are games, these are side shows. People are getting caught
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  Speaker 2: up and battles over social media memes. We've got to
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  Speaker 2: keep the this is not a game. We got to
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  Speaker 2: keep the government open for the people. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why this is omplicated. And to my friend Hakim, who
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  Speaker 2: I was asked about, man, just ignore it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom was troulling me last night. He painted me
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  Speaker 2: like a minion. He painted me yellow with big glasses
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  Speaker 2: and overalls. And I thought it was hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: That's how you handled that. I thought it was hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Even Mike Johnson can see the humor in this. I
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  Speaker 1: will say this trying to be as unbiased as I
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  Speaker 1: possibly can be. The boy the Democrats are just not
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  Speaker 1: handling this well. And this is why this is so important.
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  Speaker 1: In this it seems like a goofy thing I was
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  Speaker 1: saying two days ago. Don't overlook the importance of this
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  Speaker 1: meme thing, this humor thing, you know, the name calling
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  Speaker 1: and all this other thing. You may not like it,
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  Speaker 1: you may think it's nasty. I hear a lot of
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  Speaker 1: I hear a lot of women saying this. I like,
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  Speaker 1: I like Trump's policies, but can't Does he have to
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  Speaker 1: be so nasty? Do we need this stuff? Well? Kind
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  Speaker 1: of yeah, because it gets the message across. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: try I didn't say this the other day, but let
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  Speaker 1: me try to explain it now why it works. If
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  Speaker 1: you're still not getting this classic example, this is what's
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  Speaker 1: happened probably tens of thousands of times throughout the country
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  Speaker 1: this week. Here's a classic example of why this works.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just take two dudes sitting at a bar lunch break, right,
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  Speaker 1: and they're sitting there, and this is what usually happens
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  Speaker 1: in any kind of like you know a bar scene restaurants,
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  Speaker 1: you're waiting for your food order. Two friends and they
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  Speaker 1: go on their phone, their phones and they catching up
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  Speaker 1: on something and one will say, look, he's did you
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  Speaker 1: see this? Did you see what Trump reposted this thing?
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  Speaker 1: They put Hakeem Jeffreys in a in a Mexican hat.
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  Speaker 1: It is mariachi music. Let me see that. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that actually is pretty funny. And then here's why it works.
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  Speaker 1: And then they look into it and then they say,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder why he's why the Mexican hat. And then
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  Speaker 1: they dig a little fee that maybe they'll do a
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  Speaker 1: rock search or a Google search or an AI thing,
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  Speaker 1: and they say, oh, oh, I get it. He's doing
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  Speaker 1: that to point out that the the Democrats that are
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  Speaker 1: making fun of they want that. The Republicans, they're Trump
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  Speaker 1: saying that they want benefits for illegals. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Discount that how important that is. That's why this humor
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  Speaker 1: part of it works. That's why they're winning the messaging war.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody told me a long long time ago. It's some
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  Speaker 1: media expert, and this is even before the advent of
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  Speaker 1: social media said in traditional mainstream media or getting across
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  Speaker 1: any kind of media, he who laughs wins because that's
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  Speaker 1: what people can relate to, and that's why. So far,
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  Speaker 1: unless this changes that Repubb the Red team over there,
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  Speaker 1: they're winning the messaging war on this thing so far.
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  Speaker 1: But let's get to the serious update. What does it mean?
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  Speaker 1: So it probably means cutting some programs. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this is the opportunity they were looking for, but
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  Speaker 1: I thought this was pretty indicative of where they're going
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  Speaker 1: with this thing. Caroline Levitt, White House Press Secretary, was
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  Speaker 1: asked outside yesterday and an outside press conference in the
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  Speaker 1: sun if these cuts are for real and they're really
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  Speaker 1: going to shut down these programs. She says, Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that.
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  Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask you about that because he
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  Speaker 3: mentioned russ vote in that. I think that came out
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  Speaker 3: about eight o'clock this morning about cutting certain programs that
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  Speaker 3: they deem are not necessary. Is that real or is
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  Speaker 3: that a negotiating tactic.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's very real. And the Democrats should know that
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  Speaker 4: they put the White House in the president in this
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  Speaker 4: position and if they don't want further harm on their
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  Speaker 4: constituents back home, then they need to reopen the government.
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  Speaker 1: It's very that's a there's another way they're winning. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just a messaging on this to try to explain
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing. It's hurting their people. I mean when
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  Speaker 1: you start taking away, like you know, food assistance programs.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to blame Trump on this. They're not
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  Speaker 1: going to They're gonna blame the Democrats. People aren't dumb,
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  Speaker 1: they understand this. But are they really going to cut back? Well,
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  Speaker 1: here's Trump.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, there is an omb memo going around suggesting that
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  Speaker 5: there might be firings during the shutdown.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that will happen if the shutdown goes
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  Speaker 1: for a little bit of time, sir.
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  Speaker 6: Well, there could be firings, and that's their fault, and
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  Speaker 6: it could also be other things. I mean, we could
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  Speaker 6: cut projects that they wanted, favorite projects, and they'd be
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  Speaker 6: permanently cut, so you could.
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  Speaker 1: That's the key on that one. And I think they
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  Speaker 1: had they had a I think this is just my observation.
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  Speaker 1: I think this administration sees this as a golden opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to cut a lot of waste which goes into the budget,
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  Speaker 1: which goes into the surplus, to try to help that out.
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  Speaker 1: They're not messing around with this, They're really not. But
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  Speaker 1: I will say this in one it's just sorry, this
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  Speaker 1: just makes me laugh. One more point on messaging. This
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  Speaker 1: is another reason why they win. And remember back to
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  Speaker 1: that little saying I just said a couple of minutes ago.
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  Speaker 1: He who laughs any subject matter wins and even can
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  Speaker 1: get you to laugh. They're winning on the messaging. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me this isn't funny. Okay, you don't have to be
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  Speaker 1: a Trump supporter, you don't have to like this administration.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you can't stand them. This is pretty damn clever.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see if I can bring this up. And sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I will describe it for you audio only listeners, but
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  Speaker 1: you can see the visual on this. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: government shutdown partial quote unquote non essential employees. Well that
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  Speaker 1: means the White House social media team. They're supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be furloughed right now too, right quote unquote non essential,
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  Speaker 1: so they have to keep the messaging going out. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: saw this, but they've been doing little hand drawn social
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  Speaker 1: media messages saying our social media manager is on furlough
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  Speaker 1: right now, but we still wanted to get this message across.
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  Speaker 1: And let me see if I can bring this up.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's usually just a video thing I bring up here.
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  Speaker 1: But this is what they brought up yesterday. If you
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  Speaker 1: can see it audio only listeners, this is a hand
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  Speaker 1: drawn sombrero saying almost Friday that they posted yesterday. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's pretty brilliant. That's anyway you slice it, that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty brilliant. Again he who laughs, wins. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: move on to the my favorite story of the week,
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  Speaker 1: maybe possibly the year so far, just because I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe this is actually happening for you youngsters. Yeah, I'm actually,
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually that guy now that says that you youngsters
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  Speaker 1: literally history lesson if you're not aware of why they
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  Speaker 1: called Jane Fonda Hanoi Jane. In the midst of the
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  Speaker 1: Vietnam War, while we've got American kids being killed, she
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  Speaker 1: goes over, you know, at the at the request of
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  Speaker 1: North Vietnam, the viet Cong, and she poses with and
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  Speaker 1: does a little interview, went worldwide, went infamous with viet
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  Speaker 1: Cong soldiers the enemy at the time in a stupid
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  Speaker 1: war where our kids are getting killed, while also, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, our young American soldiers were coming back to
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  Speaker 1: American airports getting spit on Okay, that actually happened. I
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  Speaker 1: will never I will never forget, and this is maybe
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  Speaker 1: where I got it from. Then, never forget my dad's
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  Speaker 1: reaction to anything, refuse to watch, listen, to see anything
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  Speaker 1: involving Jane Fonda. After that, he was so he was
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  Speaker 1: so upset about that. So that's been that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: dogged her whole career. But then she went out to
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  Speaker 1: make a bunch of movies. She's been very successful. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you haven't heard from Jane Fonda for a long time
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  Speaker 1: outside of like award shows. Why now, why are we
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  Speaker 1: seeing so many interviews with Jane Fonda? Why is she everywhere?
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  Speaker 1: Let me bring this to your attention for first, because
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  Speaker 1: it's all connected and there's a reason why. Big headline
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and a lot of the entertainment. It was in Variety,
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  Speaker 1: it was in Rolling Stone, because this is coming from
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  Speaker 1: the entertainment side of things. Again, big part of the media.
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  Speaker 1: You ready, Billie Eilish, Gracie Abrams, Pedro, Pascal Spike Lee
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  Speaker 1: and many others in Hollywood team with you guessed it.
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  Speaker 1: Jane Fonda in free speech fight. Huh. More than five
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  Speaker 1: hundred is the byeline? More than five hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: of the world's biggest stars banned together to revive the
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy era Committee for the First Amendment. Now, I never
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  Speaker 1: quite bought into the whole thing about the fifties, the
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  Speaker 1: McCarthyism and all this other stuff, and there was a
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  Speaker 1: blacklist of actors that they accused of being communists and
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  Speaker 1: they weren't allowed to be in movies and whatever. I
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  Speaker 1: always kind of went along with the line that we
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  Speaker 1: were all in school, or at least I was that
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  Speaker 1: it was a it was an attack on free speech,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a bad thing to do in the
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  Speaker 1: blacklist of Hollywood, and you know, it really truly wasn't
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  Speaker 1: until now where I looked at this and I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you know what, maybe he wasn't all that far off,
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  Speaker 1: because obviously it's always been about the media, messaging whoever
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  Speaker 1: controls the media, and by the media, I mean movies
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  Speaker 1: back in the day, of course, television, news, programming, entertainment, television.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, now we have new media with all this
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  Speaker 1: social media stuff in digital media. Whoever controls this messaging
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  Speaker 1: to get their ideology across is the one in power,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: because that's what we're all, you know, confronted with every
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  Speaker 1: single day. So back in the day when you know
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  Speaker 1: they were trying to root out the communist effort back
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  Speaker 1: in Hollywood, yeah it was a thing, and yeah people
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  Speaker 1: lost jobs, people lost careers. But does it surprise you
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  Speaker 1: at all now that we know what we know about
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  Speaker 1: the far far left, that they would try to do that,
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  Speaker 1: that there actually was an effort to do that in
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  Speaker 1: the fifties and early sixties, It's really not that surprising.
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  Speaker 1: But why of all time, why is this happening now?
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  Speaker 1: Are why is Hollywood commanding this so called free speech effort?
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  Speaker 1: And why is Jane Vonda filling the void? Well it's
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  Speaker 1: because of exactly that you got to understand. And if
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  Speaker 1: this kind of upsets you, you've got to put this
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  Speaker 1: in perspective. You have to understand. And again I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to be objective about this. I'm just looking at Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's look at the Democrat team for right now. They're
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  Speaker 1: so devoid of any leadership anything whatsoever that the Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: people are coming out as their leaders. They really are. Again,
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  Speaker 1: when was the last time you saw and she's done
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  Speaker 1: multiple interviews now, including attached to this free speech union.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever the hell it is coming out of Hollywood. Why
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  Speaker 1: do you see Jane Fonda now all the time? She's
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  Speaker 1: because she's been trying to get her voice heard for now,
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  Speaker 1: for forty years, she's been trying to get back in.
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  Speaker 1: Why now, Well, because they have nothing else. They're really,
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  Speaker 1: really in some trouble. I'm talking about the DNZ, really
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  Speaker 1: in some trouble. That's why this kind of thing is happening.
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  Speaker 1: But here she was, Now what is she talking about?
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  Speaker 1: What is she all about? Same similar messagings that she's
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  Speaker 1: had since the sixties, since she did the thing with
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  Speaker 1: the viet Cong which pissed everybody off, true patriotic Americans,
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  Speaker 1: same messaging, except with a new twist for this modern day.
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  Speaker 1: She's throwing in the F word. That's right, the fascism word.
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  Speaker 1: So here she is, just yesterday, Jane Fonda's back to
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: lead the Democrats. Everybody, And I cannot believe it's.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: I one hundred percent happy with President Biden. Absolutely not.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: I get so mad at at people who say, you know,
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: I don't like him, so I'm not gonna vote. You know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: one young person, you know, and I said, if we
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: don't get Biden reelected or then it was Kamala, we're
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: gonna have fascism, And she said, this young person said
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: to me, we already have fascism. We don't teach civics anymore,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: so they don't understand what's happening now is leading to fascism.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Do you think Democrats need to change their messaging?
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: Absolutely?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: How do you think they should change their messaging?
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Seventy eight million people voted for Trump. They're not all maga.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: A lot of them were people who were just really
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: angry and really hurting because they can't pay for things
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: that they need, healthcare, groceries.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: That's getting worse.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Now, and so those people are going to have buyer's remorse.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: There it is. I was waiting for that. See, that's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the new messaging. That's the thing, that's the that's the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: new buzzword, buyer's remorse. Let me just ask you something,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: because I know I have a lot of Trump supporters
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: in my audience, my friend group, you know, the hardcore
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: ogs to the podcast. Do you know anybody anybody just
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: think of anybody in your family, people you know of
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a work that happened to be you know, Trump supporters.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Do you know anybody that has buyer's remorse over this.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of Trump voters. I've asked them
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: directly because they've been trying to push this line about
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: buyer's remorse for about six months. I've asked everybody, do
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you know anybody that's a Trump supporter that has buyer's remorse,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: because I haven't found one. I've asked dozens and dozens
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: of people, probably over fifty. I mean, honestly, I put
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: it online. I've asked people personally. I'm not one has
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: buyer's remorse. So that's the first thing that take away.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: You're gonna hear that over and over and over again.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: That's the new media messaging from those folks and Honoi Jane.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Second thing is this is kind of interesting. They're off
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the whole thing about fraudulent elections. Now have you noticed
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: that she says, seventy eight million people voted for Trump.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Oh you're acknowledging that, all right, Thank you very much,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: appreciate that. That's a step in the right direction. But
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the most damaging thing of all here she is and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: dares to say, people don't understand civics anymore. They don't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: understand that what's happening now leads to fascism. There's that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: F word. Everything they disagree with, everything they disagree with,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: is fascism. I don't like it. It's fascism, and dares
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to tie that into people not understanding civics. She's the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: one that doesn't understand civics. She's the one that doesn't
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: understand that. If it was true fascism, she'd never be
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: able to go on all these interviews these days, this
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: week and going forward and say it's fascism. She'd never
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: be able to call Trump a dictator if he was
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: really a dictator. She's the one that doesn't get that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter because you're still going to push that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: But don't worry, this is your real take, goodway, Remember
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: who controls the message. She's been trying to get back
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: in to prominence, not in entertainment, in politics for about
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: forty five years. She's been trying to weasel her way
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: back in. But there was no room. There was no opening.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Even the Democrats who were straw the Bill Clinton days,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Obama days, whatever it was, they were like, oh, it's nice,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: thanks for your donation, but we got this thing covered.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Now they have nothing. They're completely bereft of leadership. Which
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: is why by default, people like her and the Hollywood
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: actors are weasling their way back in. And I love
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the free speech thing from this new actors union. This
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: is the same industry, many of those same people listed
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: by the way, the prominent people joining this free speech force.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: The same people that wanted to take your rights a
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: way to speak out against the COVID vaccine. Same people
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that wanted to shut you in your in your house
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and take away your business. The same people, same exact
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: industry that wouldn't let you see your grandma when she
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: was dying of COVID and she didn't understand. Why never
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: forget that these are the same people that now all
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of a sudden they are in are in favor of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: free speech led by an other than that annoyed Jane.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Now that's annoying, I get it, But take the good news.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: It means there's nothing there. That's all.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: It means.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: They have nothing. So that's your takeaway. But the biggest
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: takeaway remember this through the weekend, or if you're just
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: listening to watching now in the replay, remember this. It's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: all about this messaging. He who laughs wins, and so
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: far the red team is kicking the Blue team's ass
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: on this because people are starting to understand who's to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: blame for this shutdown thing, so remember that as well.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: But the most important thing is have a Friday, have
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a weekend, be safe, enjoy it, enjoy your freedoms, have
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a great time. Thank you as always for the follow
• 21:17
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• 21:19
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• 21:23
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• 21:27
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• 21:28
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• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. Appreciate you. I will talk to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you on Monday, unless something else comes up we have
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to do an emergency pod. But other than that, I'll
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. Having a wicked awesome weekend.