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Mom's 'best friend' turns BABYSITTER FROM HELL, baby Fallon dead · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I remember when I had
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Speaker 1: the twins. I was so freaked out about their safety
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Speaker 1: because of covering cases where children were hurt or worse
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Speaker 1: for years. They go missing, they're abused. You never know
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Speaker 1: who the abuser is. You have no idea. I actually
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Speaker 1: had two babysitters whenever I was not with them, a
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Speaker 1: babysitter to watch the other babysitter watch the twins. I
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Speaker 1: know it sounds crazy, but in my mind that was
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Speaker 1: the only way that I could work and leave the twins. Sadly,
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Speaker 1: not everyone is able to do that today. The victim
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Speaker 1: is a two year old, gorgeous little baby girl Crime
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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Who is Baby Fallon? Listen, we
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Speaker 1: say chief sachee, an infectious laugh, zest for life, Hey hey,
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Speaker 1: I love you, an unconditional love for her mother. Moments
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Speaker 1: captured by Fallon Fridley's parents on December ninth, mother Kristen
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Speaker 1: dropped Fallon off with babysitter Kirstie Flood. She'd been watching
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Speaker 1: Fallon since August, and treated her like her own child.
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Speaker 1: That night, she says she allowed Fallon to have a
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Speaker 1: sleepover with Flood's own children. I have spoken to around
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Speaker 1: eight thirty and she said Fallon and just eating dinner.
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Speaker 1: She's fine, she was in bed, and then she calls
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Speaker 1: me hysterically about an hour later saying that Fallen wasn't moving.
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Speaker 1: How can that be? Guys, again, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Let me introduce you an all star panel
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Speaker 1: to break it down and put it back together again.
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Speaker 1: First of all, child judge, lawyer Anchory Court TV, Ashley
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Speaker 1: Willcott at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Renowned psychiatrists out of
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta jurisdiction, Doctor Angela Arnold at Angela Arnold MD
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Speaker 1: dot com, Director of the Cold Case Research Institute, Crime
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Speaker 1: scene tech expert Cheryl McCollum, renowned medical examiner for the
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Speaker 1: entire state of Florida. Doctor Tim Gallagher at pathcaremed dot com.
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Speaker 1: But first to special guests joining us, Mike Pachinik with
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Speaker 1: WSBTV Channel two, Atlanta. Mike, thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: being with us. First of all, I want to understand
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Speaker 1: the topography here. Where did this happen. This happened in
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Speaker 1: Sandy Springs, Georgia, Nancy, which is a suburb just north
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Speaker 1: of the Atlanta city limits. That's pretty ritzy. Area, Sandy Springs.
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Speaker 1: It's right there, nestled in with butt Caad in North Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: So Sandy Springs is a little suburb just out of there.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand where this happened and about the
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Speaker 1: family dynamic. So the mom was at work when tragedy
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Speaker 1: befall her daughter. That's right, Nancy. The family actually lives
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Speaker 1: in a nearby suburb of Woodstock, which is not too
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Speaker 1: far away. They entrusted this little girl to be babyset
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Speaker 1: by their friend Kirsty Flood. They were friends for quite
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Speaker 1: some time. Where was the mom marking? Where's the mom marking?
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to find out right now? Where
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Speaker 1: is she? You know, I really don't know where she works? Behind? Okay,
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Speaker 1: but we do we have convi I should have asked
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Speaker 1: us to start with. We have confirmed the mom was
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Speaker 1: not with the two year old, right, that is correct.
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Speaker 1: Where's the dad in this scenario? He also is a
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Speaker 1: working parent, so he was he was at work as man.
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Speaker 1: That's tough, especially if you have to travel, especially if
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Speaker 1: you have to be away at night and wonder how
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Speaker 1: is your child? And in this world we live in,
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get by with one parent working, it's
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Speaker 1: much more common. I think Ashley Willcott that both parents work.
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it is. I see cases all the time
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Speaker 1: from all different areas of Georgia, and let me just
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Speaker 1: say this, Typically you either have a single parent or working,
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Speaker 1: or in the alternative, especially this day and age with
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Speaker 1: COVID and changes in jobs, everybody scrambling to do what
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Speaker 1: they have to do to provide for their family, and
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Speaker 1: often both are outside of the home working. Yeah, Cheryl McCollum,
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Speaker 1: when you and I worked together out on crime scenes
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Speaker 1: at all times of the day and night, and all
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Speaker 1: parts of Atlanta, Fulton County, especially a lot of bad,
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Speaker 1: high crime areas, I don't think I could have done
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Speaker 1: it if I had had children at that time. I
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Speaker 1: mean we were out all hours of the day and
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Speaker 1: night processing crime scenes, trying to find witnesses. There were
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Speaker 1: some nights during trial I don't I don't think I
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Speaker 1: would even sleep between trying to find witnesses and line
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Speaker 1: up the next day for trial. You just can't. How
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Speaker 1: did you do it, Cheryl, Well, you know I had
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Speaker 1: a lot of help, and you know, Wald changed his
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Speaker 1: schedule and my sister Charlene changed her schedule immediately. Charlene
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Speaker 1: was a flight attendant, so she would fly all night
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Speaker 1: and then get my children at seven o'clock in the
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Speaker 1: morning so I could go on duty. And when Wald
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Speaker 1: got home he would let Charlene go to sleep. So
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Speaker 1: see you out at two am processing a homicide. You
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Speaker 1: were fresh as a daisy. And I never understood how
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Speaker 1: how you did it with two children. A lot of help,
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Speaker 1: A lot of help, Nancy. And I'm gonna tell you,
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Speaker 1: you and I both when the children got here, changed
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Speaker 1: our schedules. I mean, instead of working unusual part time jobs,
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Speaker 1: I became a college professor. I changed everything that I did.
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Speaker 1: I quit working in the jail. There a lot of
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Speaker 1: things that I did that go away in your life.
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Speaker 1: I mean there's one thing. I mean, the geelhouse funk.
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Speaker 1: You can't go in there and come out not smelling
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Speaker 1: like that. I don't know what that is, because it's
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Speaker 1: kind of a mixture of too many people and cleaning fluid.
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Speaker 1: It's just ah and steam, you know, like in a
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Speaker 1: school cafeteria that steam from the food where they have
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Speaker 1: hot water under the fog, just like oh meshes together.
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Speaker 1: You can't wait to run out of that place. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you're sad to see that go. What we're talking
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Speaker 1: about is a too Your old little girl Fallon Fridly
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Speaker 1: and her mom, Kristen Gyant and moms at work, Dad's
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Speaker 1: at work. Joining me right now is a very special guest.
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Speaker 1: It's Stephanie Fridley, the aunt of baby Fallon, the sister
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Speaker 1: of mom Kristen. Stephanie, first of all, you have no
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Speaker 1: idea how much we have all been thinking and praying
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Speaker 1: for your family. And I want to find out more
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Speaker 1: about where mom and dad worked. So my sister, Kristen
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Speaker 1: works at for Kids Animal Shelter. She literally dedicates all
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Speaker 1: of her time to taking care of and rehabilitating kittens
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Speaker 1: and sending them off to good homes. And her husband
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Speaker 1: works as a maintenance man, excuse me, a maintenance manager
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Speaker 1: at the grounds guys at what the grounds guys? You know,
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Speaker 1: And with jobs like that, you're on call a lot,
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Speaker 1: and I know the feeling you guys were talking about.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful to year old little girl Mommy had to work
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Speaker 1: at night and everything's fine. But I've covered so many
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Speaker 1: cases like that. To doctor Angela Arnold psychiatrists joining us
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Speaker 1: where everything's picture perfect, I mean I'm thinking about Elizabeth Smart.
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Speaker 1: They live in this gorgeous mansion, in this loving family,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the middle of night, she's gone,
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Speaker 1: all the way down to Helly Cummings in Florida, goes
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Speaker 1: to bed babysitter. There she's gone, and you have no
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Speaker 1: Isabella Silice, different part of the country. The whole family's asleep,
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Speaker 1: and somehow somebody gets Isabelle and you don't plan for it,
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Speaker 1: and you don't think about something like that happening in
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Speaker 1: your life, So when it does happen, it's shocking, totally
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Speaker 1: out of your realm of thinking. And in both Elizabeth
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Speaker 1: Smart and Sabella Salice, the whole family was home, and
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Speaker 1: in Helly Cummings it was the dad's fiance that was
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Speaker 1: at home when Helly is taken goes missing. So it's honestly,
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Speaker 1: no one wants to feel like they're unsafe in their
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Speaker 1: own home. No, no one ever is going to feel
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Speaker 1: like they're unsafe in their own home. No, absolutely not.
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Speaker 1: This happened. So how many times will it take that
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Speaker 1: a child is brutalize in their own home before it
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Speaker 1: can be fixed? But is there a way to fix
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Speaker 1: the time stories with Nancy Grace. We are talking about
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Speaker 1: a two year old little girl, Fallon Fridley. She's at home.
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Speaker 1: Mommy says that while she's at work, she actually spoke
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Speaker 1: to GIRLSTI that was around eight thirty pm. It was
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Speaker 1: almost a bad time. Then everything's fine. Fallon had had dinner,
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Speaker 1: she was fine, going to bed, she was going down
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Speaker 1: for the night, and in my mind, once the children
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Speaker 1: get in bed, pretty much the drama for the day
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Speaker 1: is over and we can all go to sleep. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to LaTosha Gibbons Wxia distraught beyond measure. It's
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Speaker 1: unfathomable that she's not here with us. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how you wake up in each day in the Moulan
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Speaker 1: when such horrific loss that she's experienceding right now, Samantha
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Speaker 1: Shelton is speaking on behalf of the Fridley family as
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Speaker 1: they wore in the tragedy death of two year old Fallon.
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Speaker 1: Shelton says she's worked with Fallon's mother for the past
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Speaker 1: few years at four kids. She is part of our
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Speaker 1: family and we stand with her. Her loss is our
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Speaker 1: loss and we love Fallon. Fallon would come to work
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Speaker 1: with her sometimes. Shelton says Fallon loved animals like her mother,
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Speaker 1: and the staff had already picked out her Christmas gifts.
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Speaker 1: You were hearing staff where mom works at for kids
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Speaker 1: a shot reverberating through the community, family and friends stunned
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Speaker 1: to Stephanie Fridley, the aunt a little Fallon. Stephanie, When
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Speaker 1: did you learn that something had gone horribly wrong? I
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Speaker 1: was actually on my way home from a close friend
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Speaker 1: of mine's home, and my younger sister, Cindy, had called
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Speaker 1: me very distraught, saying that something was wrong, and I,
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Speaker 1: you know, didn't think too much of it. I thought
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Speaker 1: everything was fine, It's just maybe she tripped and fell
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Speaker 1: or something. So I called Kristen and her husband, Cameron
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Speaker 1: answered the phone and he was beside himself, and that's
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Speaker 1: when I knew something was wrong, and he told me
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Speaker 1: they were at the hospital. So I got over there
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Speaker 1: to the Scottish Rite as quickly as I could. It
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Speaker 1: was probably about eleven eleven thirty when I arrived at
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Speaker 1: the hospital, and Scottish Mother is one of the premier
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Speaker 1: children's hospitals really in the world, and it's not too
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Speaker 1: too far away from where this family lived. The baby
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Speaker 1: with a trusted friend that had been taking care of
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Speaker 1: the baby for a while, long time friend. So what
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Speaker 1: happened to baby fallon? And you know that feeling, Doctor
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Speaker 1: Tim Gallagher. I'm sure you've dealt with so many families
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Speaker 1: that are beside themselves when you're at the hospital and
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Speaker 1: you're waiting and praying for good news. I mean, how
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Speaker 1: do you break it to a family that there's not
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Speaker 1: good news? Doctor Gallagher? Well, you know that is never easy,
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Speaker 1: and that's one of the most difficult parts of my job,
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Speaker 1: and of many doctor's jobs, and even detectives who investigate cases,
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Speaker 1: is breaking bad news to the family. There's never a
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Speaker 1: good way to do it. I think the most common
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Speaker 1: way to do it is just to come out with
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Speaker 1: it and not sugarcoat it at all and just tell
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Speaker 1: them the truth and let the emotions flow where they
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Speaker 1: need to go. Take a listen to our friend. Sandy
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Speaker 1: Springs Police Sergeants Salvadore or takea we got a nine
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Speaker 1: one one call about a nonresponsive child. Sandy Springs PG,
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Speaker 1: along with EA Mass responded. They gave the child CPR
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Speaker 1: and transported her to the hospital, where she was later
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Speaker 1: pronounced by medical personnel. See any Springs Police soon learned
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Speaker 1: the medical examiner ruled her death the homicide. Hey Hey,
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Speaker 1: I love you. Fallen was a happy, sweet little girl,
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Speaker 1: her mother tells me. The energetic two year old love
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Speaker 1: to sing and dance and in her eyes, there were
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Speaker 1: no strangers, just people to meet and hold hands with.
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Speaker 1: Hey forhood. But on December ninth, her life was cut short.
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Speaker 1: We got a nine one one call about a nine
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Speaker 1: responsive child. Sandy Springs PEG along with em MASS responded.
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Speaker 1: They gave the child CPR and transported her to the hospital,
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Speaker 1: where she was later pronounced dead by medical personnel. Sandy
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Speaker 1: Springs police soon learned the medical examiner ruled her death
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Speaker 1: a homicide. Two days after Fallon was found unresponsive in
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Speaker 1: the Sandy Springs apartment. I want to go back to you,
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Speaker 1: Mike Pachenik, joining USBSBTV Channel two, explain to me about
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Speaker 1: the structure. Was in an apartment, a high rise, at home,
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Speaker 1: a suburb? What was it? Yeah, Christie Flood lived in
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Speaker 1: an apartment complex on the northern side of the city.
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Speaker 1: In fact, she was operating a daycare out of her home.
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Speaker 1: She had advertised it as a daycare with toys and
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Speaker 1: games for the kids to play. How have you seen
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Speaker 1: the apartment at what level? Was it on bottom second third?
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Speaker 1: I believe they live in the second or third floor
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Speaker 1: from what I was able to see. I mean, because
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Speaker 1: it seems to me. The very first thing you do,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, based on what Mike Patchennik when WSBTV is
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Speaker 1: telling us, is you look at the structure. Is it
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Speaker 1: Isabel Selsa's case? The entire backyard had a very high,
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Speaker 1: solid nut brick I don't think, but maybe stucco wall
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Speaker 1: all the way around it, and the front door had
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Speaker 1: not been tampered with when Isabel was taken. So you
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Speaker 1: got to figure out how could somebody get in and
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Speaker 1: hurt this child? How did this happen? When you get
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Speaker 1: a call like this, Cheryl McCollum, what do you do first? Well,
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Speaker 1: the first thing again, and if you think that child's
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Speaker 1: already unresponsive, you get the information from the primary caregiver.
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Speaker 1: In this case, it would have been the babysitter who
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Speaker 1: made the claim she hit her head on the slide
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Speaker 1: and then wouldn't wake up. So again, I want to
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Speaker 1: know where the where the slide is? Is it a
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Speaker 1: park or a playgown right there at the facility? Did
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Speaker 1: she walk with the child back to the apartment injured?
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Speaker 1: Did she carry the child? How severe was that injury
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Speaker 1: to this babysitter at a time? And then I'm going
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Speaker 1: to look for people. I'm gonna send the rookies out.
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Speaker 1: Can you get anybody that saw these two at the part?
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Speaker 1: Can anybody verify that happen? Well, I mean, understanding whole talker,
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Speaker 1: do you know that they had been at the playground? Cheryl, No,
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Speaker 1: And That's what I'm saying. That's one thing I would
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Speaker 1: find out a y. You know, the reality is that
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Speaker 1: you start looking from men in the child's life because
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Speaker 1: her child just suddenly die in the care of a
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Speaker 1: trusted friend who everybody goes to sleep. You typically look
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Speaker 1: at men no offensive men on the panel that would
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Speaker 1: be Mike Pachenik and doctor Tim Gallagher. But it's usually
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Speaker 1: men that kill statistically no offense. But that's the reality.
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Speaker 1: That's where I would start looking, Cheryl. I would immediately
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Speaker 1: look at everybody that was in control or care of
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Speaker 1: that child. Every person time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we were talking about the death of this little girl
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Speaker 1: and she dies, to my understanding, within the apartment on
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Speaker 1: a second or third floor. The mom gets to call
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Speaker 1: straight back to Stephanie. Fridley. This is Fallon's aunt, Stephanie.
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Speaker 1: At first you were just told something's wrong. When did
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Speaker 1: you realize it was very serious? When we were at
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Speaker 1: the hospital, you know, the doctor had mentioned that he
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Speaker 1: had never seen a child with injuries this severe actually recover,
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Speaker 1: so hearing that was really a heavy blow, but we
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Speaker 1: were all optimistic. I think it was around one fifteen,
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Speaker 1: one twenty in the morning that we got the hard news.
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Speaker 1: So Stephanie, who was there with you in the hospital,
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Speaker 1: who rushed the baby to the hospital. Kristen and Cameron,
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Speaker 1: her husband met actually beat the ambulance to the hospital. Myself,
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Speaker 1: my younger sister Cindy, and my mother got there as
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Speaker 1: quickly as we could. So did the babysitter take the
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Speaker 1: baby to the hospital or the mom take the baby
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Speaker 1: to the hospital. No, the ambulance picked Fallin up and
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Speaker 1: brow her to them. Bot you. So the babysitter calls
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Speaker 1: the ambulance, They come get the baby, take baby fell
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Speaker 1: into the hospital and the mom is flying she meets
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Speaker 1: the ambulance. Do I have that right? Got it? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Exactly As this scenario unfalls questions, ping ponging off the
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Speaker 1: brains of the parents. Take a listen to our friend
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Speaker 1: Jackie Howard at crime Online. Kristin friendly Ghentt and Kirsty
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Speaker 1: Flood have been friends for six years. Both her mothers
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Speaker 1: and friends say they both loved children. That's one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons Kristin Ghant turned Flood when she needed a babysitter.
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Speaker 1: For several months, twenty nine year old Flood cared for
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Speaker 1: two year old Fallon Friedley at least three days a week,
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Speaker 1: and in August she became Falon's full time babysitter. Just
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Speaker 1: before Christmas, Flood invited Fallon to a sleepover with her
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Speaker 1: own children, and that's when Kristin Ghantz nightmare began a
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Speaker 1: sleepover with other children in the home. You know this
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Speaker 1: could go in so many different directions. Special guests joining
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Speaker 1: me the aunt of baby Fallon, Stephanie Fridley. Stephanie describe
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Speaker 1: the scene from me is everyone is waiting in the
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Speaker 1: hospital hallway to get news about Fallon. I can't even
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Speaker 1: really put into words, just be overwhelming worry and anxiety
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Speaker 1: that we were all experiencing, but we kept trying to
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Speaker 1: hang in there and be optimistic, you know, everything up
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Speaker 1: until that last moment when we got the news, we
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Speaker 1: were just I can't even explain, just absolute fear and anxiety,
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Speaker 1: you know. To doctor Tim Gallagher, the babysitter, Christie Flood
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Speaker 1: said that baby fallon hit her head on a slide. Now,
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Speaker 1: I know for a fact, when my son John David
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Speaker 1: hit his head at a birthday party on a professional
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Speaker 1: grade basketball court. He was in the hospital for days.
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Speaker 1: He had a serious, serious concussion. So how would that work? Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the first thing that we would do here
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Speaker 1: at the Medical Examiner's office, you know, is look at
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Speaker 1: the pattern of injuries. If it's a single blow to
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Speaker 1: the head, then yes, that is possible. But in child
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Speaker 1: aod use cases we don't find that. Typically we find
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Speaker 1: multiple impacts on different side. So I'm saying, if if
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Speaker 1: she hit her head on the slide, like the babysitter said,
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Speaker 1: how would it be that she could eat dinner and
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Speaker 1: go to bed as normal and then what go into
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Speaker 1: a coma from bleeding on the brain. I mean, how
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Speaker 1: would that work? Well, that would be a very very
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Speaker 1: unlikely situation. Um. You know, there can be a situation
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Speaker 1: to something called walk, talk and die. A syndrome where
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Speaker 1: you have where you do have an impact to the head.
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Speaker 1: It's always such a enjoy talking to you, doctor Gallagher.
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Speaker 1: Walk talk and die. Okay, go ahead. Well, it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a term that we use for an epidural or
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Speaker 1: bleeding on the very top of the brain. And typically
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Speaker 1: what happens is you'll you'll have an impact to the head.
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be that severe. Typically these happen to skiers
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Speaker 1: or snowboarders. Oh you mean like Natasha Richardson, Liam aw
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Speaker 1: said Liam. Yes, Liam Neeson's wife. Remember that beautiful actress
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Speaker 1: and mother hit her head on a tree skiing. She
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Speaker 1: got a little nauseous, she was tired, she laid down
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Speaker 1: and died. Is that what you're talking about? Oh, that
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Speaker 1: would be right to walk, talk and die syndrome, you know,
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Speaker 1: after the after the impact. So it's indicative of very
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Speaker 1: slow believe that that happens over a long period of
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Speaker 1: time to the point where of the amount of blood increases,
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Speaker 1: the pressure inside of the head, You become sleepy, you
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Speaker 1: have difficulty breathing, You lay down, and then you you
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Speaker 1: expire shortly thereafter, you know. So if that was the case,
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Speaker 1: then you would have a progression of her, of the
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Speaker 1: of the victim, of the of the child. I'm becoming
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Speaker 1: more or less and less responsive over a long period
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Speaker 1: of time. It's not like all of a sudden you're
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Speaker 1: talking and enjoying yourself and then a snap of the
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Speaker 1: finger and then you're unconscious and debt. You know. It's
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Speaker 1: it's a long progression from being lucid to being clouded
23:19
Speaker 1: and then being uptunded and then dying. So if that's
23:23
Speaker 1: not how this case presented itself, then I would suspect
23:28
Speaker 1: another mechanism for the child's injury. Well, doctor Tim Gallagher
23:34
Speaker 1: and Fallon Fridley's aunt, Stephanie Fridley joining us today, say
23:40
Speaker 1: that's not at all what happened here, Matt to our
23:43
Speaker 1: friend and Mike Pachenik from WSBTV Channel two, Doctor Gallagher
23:48
Speaker 1: or and Stephanie Fridley are right, that's not the way
23:51
Speaker 1: it unfolded based on the nature of the injuries. What
23:54
Speaker 1: can you tell me about Fallon's injuries, Mike, they were
24:00
Speaker 1: I think the child had injuries all over her body
24:03
Speaker 1: that were definitely not consistent with just hitting her head
24:07
Speaker 1: on a slide at the playground. You know, that's a
24:09
Speaker 1: dead giveaway, Mike Pachenk. I mean, I'm no medical examiner
24:12
Speaker 1: like doctor Tim Gallagher is joining us. But when you
24:16
Speaker 1: say a child hit her head on the slide, I
24:19
Speaker 1: would expect to see one bruise, maybe a laceration on
24:24
Speaker 1: the head if she was at the top of the slide.
24:27
Speaker 1: I might expect, you know, maybe her knees to be
24:30
Speaker 1: skinned if she fell off, But I would not expect
24:34
Speaker 1: to see her body riddled with injuries. What do you
24:41
Speaker 1: know about the injuries? Might what type of injuries were there?
24:45
Speaker 1: They found contusions all over her body, terrors to some
24:50
Speaker 1: of her internal organs which were definitely inconsistent with hitting
24:55
Speaker 1: her head on a slide as well. So just terrific,
24:58
Speaker 1: horrific injuries. And plus children's slides are by law, Ashley Wilcot.
25:04
Speaker 1: It's regulated for playgrounds, schools, church, public playgrounds. Slides have
25:10
Speaker 1: to be a certain height and they've got to have
25:13
Speaker 1: all sorts of safety precautions on them, so this sort
25:16
Speaker 1: of thing won't happen Ashley, Yeah, exactly. And so the
25:20
Speaker 1: reality is can kids hurt themselves on a playground? Sure? Absolutely,
25:24
Speaker 1: kids can have an accident anywhere, But you're right Nancy.
25:27
Speaker 1: For these types of injuries, the severity, the number of
25:30
Speaker 1: different injuries a slide is meet certain requirements adds to
25:36
Speaker 1: all of the pieces of played out equipment to prevent
25:38
Speaker 1: those types of injuries. So, Cheryl McCollum, what the babysitter
25:43
Speaker 1: is saying does not jive with the injuries. And what
25:48
Speaker 1: you and I were talking about at the beginning was
25:51
Speaker 1: tracing the babies steps up until the time of the injury.
25:56
Speaker 1: And you look at every person around her. Now we
26:00
Speaker 1: have an inconsistency, Cheryl, and that's where you stay. You
26:04
Speaker 1: stay at that first lie. So again, once the doctor
26:08
Speaker 1: is telling law enforcement her organs have been damaged, so
26:13
Speaker 1: that's either being punched, being kicked. There's injury to the
26:16
Speaker 1: front of her head, the back of her head, at
26:18
Speaker 1: the top of her head. That's not one fall from
26:21
Speaker 1: a slide. And that baby could not have walked back
26:24
Speaker 1: to the apartment. So we go back. Did anybody see
26:29
Speaker 1: them leave? Is their video from the complex? Did anybody
26:34
Speaker 1: witness did another child play with her? Did she actually
26:38
Speaker 1: make it to the slide to the park? To you,
26:40
Speaker 1: doctor Tim Gallagher, how much force is needed for there
26:44
Speaker 1: to be internal injuries on a child. I mean, I
26:48
Speaker 1: imagine it to be like a car crash or punting
26:52
Speaker 1: professional hitting kicking a football for the forty yard goal.
26:58
Speaker 1: I mean, how much the loss do you need for
27:01
Speaker 1: there to be so much tearing and bleeding to internal organs. Well,
27:05
Speaker 1: that's a good question. You know, it depends on a
27:07
Speaker 1: lot of things. But you know your typical child, her age.
27:10
Speaker 1: You know, it would require either a whatever blow would
27:14
Speaker 1: tear your organs would also knock the breath out of you.
27:17
Speaker 1: You know, could also knock you unconscious. You know, so
27:20
Speaker 1: a good kick in the abdomen or a good punch
27:23
Speaker 1: right under the rib cage is certainly more than enough
27:27
Speaker 1: force in a child to do that type of damage.
27:30
Speaker 1: I mean, Stephanie Fridley, this is baby Fallon's aunt standing
27:35
Speaker 1: there in the hallway with mom and dad at the hospital, praying,
27:39
Speaker 1: praying the baby would survive. Had you been told she
27:44
Speaker 1: hit her head on the slide, Yeah, initially that's kind
27:48
Speaker 1: of what we had heard from Kirsty. Did you believe it? No? No,
27:55
Speaker 1: I didn't think that a playground injury could actually hospitalize
28:00
Speaker 1: child in this fashion. Well, you know what your instinct was, correct.
28:17
Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What happened to baby fallon?
28:23
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend Mike Pachenic WSBTV Atlanta.
28:28
Speaker 1: At the hospital, police say Flood claimed the toddler had
28:31
Speaker 1: hit her head on the slide at the playground, but
28:34
Speaker 1: doctors believe Flood badly beat the child, and according to
28:37
Speaker 1: this arrest, half of David had been searching phrases on
28:40
Speaker 1: her phone like what does it mean to have a
28:42
Speaker 1: sudden urge to beat a child that's not yours? And
28:45
Speaker 1: it's like this evil is in front of my face
28:47
Speaker 1: for years and I never saw it. Evil in front
28:51
Speaker 1: of my face for years, but I didn't see it.
28:53
Speaker 1: To my Pachennick WSBTV channel to Atlanta, Mike, tell me
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Speaker 1: what you learn about the best friend and babysitters computer searches. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So police actually went and checked her phone and on
29:06
Speaker 1: the Safari app of her iPhone and they were able
29:09
Speaker 1: to look at her search history and as mentioned in
29:12
Speaker 1: the piece there, that was one of the phrases what
29:14
Speaker 1: does it mean to have a sudden urge to beat
29:16
Speaker 1: a child that's not yours? There was another search for
29:19
Speaker 1: quote I hit my child and feel guilty, and a
29:23
Speaker 1: third search Nancy that said quote, what type of people
29:26
Speaker 1: enjoy abusing other people's children? You know? Even, wouldn't you think,
29:33
Speaker 1: doctor Angela Arnold, you're a shrink. I'm just a trial lawyer.
29:36
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you realize as you're typing these questions into Google,
29:42
Speaker 1: there's something horribly wrong that you need to fix. I mean,
29:46
Speaker 1: that wouldn't dawn on you? Yes, I think it would
29:49
Speaker 1: go one on you. But you know something, there are people,
29:54
Speaker 1: there are people Nancy that do things, they harm the harmless,
29:59
Speaker 1: and they get pleasure from other people's pain. And they're
30:02
Speaker 1: called satists. Okay, satists actually feel other people's pain more
30:08
Speaker 1: than normal. They enjoy it until it's over and then
30:12
Speaker 1: they feel bad. So, yes, this woman knew that she
30:15
Speaker 1: was suffering from this, and she was wondering about it,
30:18
Speaker 1: and maybe she couldn't even stop herself. But this is
30:22
Speaker 1: that's when you close the daycare, when you're starting to
30:25
Speaker 1: type into Google, why do I want to hurt other
30:28
Speaker 1: people's children? I beat my child now I feel bad
30:31
Speaker 1: about it. That's when you close the doors to your daycare.
30:35
Speaker 1: Take a listen to Melissa Starns, CBS forty six. Antoinette Nieri,
30:40
Speaker 1: the former apartment manager at the complex says she knew
30:43
Speaker 1: Flood well. Christie was absolutely erratic. Fridley's family says the
30:47
Speaker 1: babysitter first reported the little girl died after falling at
30:51
Speaker 1: the playground, but an autopsy revealed she suffered severe injuries
30:55
Speaker 1: that resulted in her death. Under Flood's watch. In the
30:59
Speaker 1: month of August, every single day we had the police
31:03
Speaker 1: at Christy Flood's apartment. According to Sandy Springs Police, there
31:06
Speaker 1: have been six incident reports involving Flood since August of
31:10
Speaker 1: this year. The reports range from larcenyes, harassing, communications, and
31:14
Speaker 1: criminal trespass. Nary also sent us greenshots from Facebook saying
31:19
Speaker 1: Flood was running an illegal daycare. I had given her
31:22
Speaker 1: leaf's violation for trying to run a business out of
31:24
Speaker 1: her home, because that is a leaks's violation. Straight back
31:27
Speaker 1: out to Stephanie Fridley, this is baby Fallon, just two
31:31
Speaker 1: years old, and I wish you could see her picture
31:34
Speaker 1: just she looks like a little angel. You can go
31:36
Speaker 1: to crime online dot com and see her photo as well. Stephanie,
31:40
Speaker 1: who is this woman? Who is Kirstie Flood? Twenty nine
31:45
Speaker 1: year old Kirsty Flood. I mean she had been in
31:50
Speaker 1: the mom Kristin Fridley's dance life for a long time,
31:55
Speaker 1: but no one ever suspected a thing. No, And you know,
31:59
Speaker 1: I has known her family for a long time. She
32:03
Speaker 1: was a wonderful mother. All of her friends and families
32:06
Speaker 1: that knew her well would say that she was just
32:09
Speaker 1: a kind hearted person. She loved her children. She took
32:13
Speaker 1: great care of Fallon, and we thought she was a
32:17
Speaker 1: wonderful person. Were you ever around her? Not personally I
32:21
Speaker 1: have met her, but it's it's been a while since
32:23
Speaker 1: I've you met her. I mean, what was she like?
32:26
Speaker 1: Was she bubbly? Was she quiet? Was open? Armed and
32:31
Speaker 1: loving and warm? She was just and there bede no
32:34
Speaker 1: warning signs, absolutely not just honestly one of the kindest people.
32:39
Speaker 1: Back to Mike Pachinik WBTV Channel two, what can you
32:43
Speaker 1: tell me about instant reports regarding this woman, the babysitter
32:49
Speaker 1: who was taking care of several children at her apartment complex.
32:53
Speaker 1: What do you know? Right? So, there were there were
32:55
Speaker 1: six different calls to that apartment complex. Most of the
32:58
Speaker 1: issues were really a dispute between her and the leasing
33:03
Speaker 1: office and the leasing manager. According to Antoinette Nary, she
33:08
Speaker 1: had been complaining about issues in her apartment like mold
33:11
Speaker 1: and some other maintenance problems, and it had escalated to
33:15
Speaker 1: the point where she was criminally trespassed from the leasing
33:18
Speaker 1: office for causing a stink over there. And Okay, because
33:22
Speaker 1: when I heard police recall, I assume it was for
33:26
Speaker 1: a crime, not a landlord tenant dispute, because that's actually
33:31
Speaker 1: pretty common. So I want to go back to the
33:35
Speaker 1: searching of the internet. Cheryl McCall on Directrical Case Research
33:39
Speaker 1: Institute jump in. My biggest issue with this whole statement
33:42
Speaker 1: that she typed in, And like you said, Nancy, she
33:45
Speaker 1: chose to sit with her phone and type every word
33:49
Speaker 1: what type of people enjoy enjoy abusing, enjoy abusing. Those
33:57
Speaker 1: two words tell so much about about her. And then
34:01
Speaker 1: of course she goes on to say other people's children.
34:03
Speaker 1: So again what leaps out at me. She enjoys abusing
34:08
Speaker 1: other people's children, not just hurting them, but abusing them.
34:11
Speaker 1: By typing that in, what she's actually looking for is
34:15
Speaker 1: information about herself. She didn't type in how can I
34:19
Speaker 1: stop abusing somebody else's child? How can I quit hurting
34:24
Speaker 1: somebody's child? She just wals', oh hey, why do I
34:27
Speaker 1: enjoy it so damn much. You know what makes it
34:31
Speaker 1: even worse in my mind, as she Willcot judge, trial, lawyer,
34:35
Speaker 1: court to the anchor, is that the whole family trusted
34:38
Speaker 1: her and she had a facade. I mean, it makes
34:41
Speaker 1: me think of Scott Peterson, and he's an easy one
34:45
Speaker 1: to pick because it's just such a stark contrast because
34:49
Speaker 1: he seemed like the perfect husband. Some people, not me,
34:53
Speaker 1: but some people think he's handsome, athletic college degree, great job,
34:58
Speaker 1: great personality. Who would have guessed he would murder Lacy,
35:04
Speaker 1: an unborn child, Connor on Christmas Eve of all days.
35:10
Speaker 1: So the facade you paint to the public is one thing.
35:15
Speaker 1: It's like a mind twist because what you see is
35:21
Speaker 1: not what your brain knows to be the facts. Ashley. Yeah,
35:25
Speaker 1: and to your point, Nancy, this is an attractive person.
35:27
Speaker 1: If you look online and see pictures of her, she's
35:30
Speaker 1: an attractive person. And the problem is general people, people
35:35
Speaker 1: in general, other than those of us on this call
35:37
Speaker 1: that are in this field, trust people. You develop a friendship,
35:41
Speaker 1: you develop a relationship, but necessarily those are people you
35:45
Speaker 1: tend to trust. And so there was no reason the
35:48
Speaker 1: way this person held herself out built a friendship, appeared
35:52
Speaker 1: that they didn't trust her, and regrettably she had a
35:58
Speaker 1: squirrel loops. She did something that was horrific. Man, you're
36:03
Speaker 1: not kidding something that's horrific. But because she was doing
36:06
Speaker 1: all these searches, I do not believe this was the
36:09
Speaker 1: first time she had acted. Take a listen to our
36:12
Speaker 1: friends at Fox five. Cobb County court records show this
36:15
Speaker 1: isn't the first time flood has been arrested by police.
36:18
Speaker 1: Back in two ten, she was arrested for battery under
36:21
Speaker 1: each possession, contributing to the delinquency of a minor under
36:25
Speaker 1: each possession, and criminal trespass. In two twelve, she was
36:29
Speaker 1: arrested during a traffic violation for having a controlled substance.
36:32
Speaker 1: She's currently in the Fulton Counting Jail facing charges of
36:35
Speaker 1: felony murder, malice, murder, aggravated battery, and cruelty to children. Yes,
36:40
Speaker 1: Mike Pachink, she's behind bars, but the parents have a
36:45
Speaker 1: life sentence. They hired the babysitter, the longtime friend that
36:52
Speaker 1: apparently murdered their child. What is next for this babysitter,
36:59
Speaker 1: Kirsty flood Well. She has been sitting in the Fulton
37:02
Speaker 1: County Jail for a good month now. She has been
37:05
Speaker 1: denied bond, so there is no chance she'll be getting out.
37:08
Speaker 1: We wait as just as unfolds as prayers go on
37:13
Speaker 1: for baby Fallon's parents. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off
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Speaker 1: goodbye friend,