Latest / The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon / Iowa State over St. John's, NFL Thoughts, Lee Sterling's Weekly Picks & Eliot Clough talks Hawkeyes
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- 0:18All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon On a
- 0:20Tuesday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
- 0:22Network. Trent Condon and Ken Miller for
- 0:25the next couple of hours to talk sports with you.
- 0:27And thanks for starting your afternoon here with us.
- 0:30Here's what's coming up on our program, Lee Sterling from
- 0:34paramountsports.com. With the abbreviated week, we're
- 0:36going to try and squeeze as many of our guests as we possibly can
- 0:39into this next couple of days. Today being no different.
- 0:42Lee Sterling will kick things off.
- 0:44He'll join us at 12:30, then off to Iowa City where we'll catch
- 0:48up with Elliott Clough as he takes in some of the press
- 0:52conferences from football press conferences from earlier in the
- 0:55day. Of course, Iowa and Nebraska
- 0:58winner gets Florida, loser gets their vacation bowl, vacation
- 1:03trip to Las Vegas seemingly on the table, but you never know.
- 1:07So we'll talk to Elliott Clef on Iowa coming up here at 12:45.
- 1:11David Kaplan will kick off our number 2.
- 1:13Those bears, they won again. Somehow, some way, they're on
- 1:17top of the division. We'll talk to Cappy about that.
- 1:20They have a date the bears do with the Eagles on Black Friday.
- 1:23Is it Netflix? No, I think it's one of the on
- 1:26the streamer. It's a streaming company.
- 1:28I think Netflix, but could be mistaken, has that one in the
- 1:30middle of the afternoon. Amazon Prime.
- 1:32Amazon Prime middle of the afternoon on Friday.
- 1:36And then our final guest will be Steven M Simple.
- 1:38It covers Nebraska, of course, Nebraska and Iowa on Friday
- 1:43morning at 11:00. And what used to be kind of they
- 1:47had that window to themselves is no longer the case.
- 1:50There's a whole bunch more game, many more games, including the
- 1:53Egg Bowl, which will kick off at the same time.
- 1:56But I want to start with what we saw yesterday in in Las Vegas at
- 2:00the Mandalay Bay. We watched Iowa State and St.
- 2:03John's. That was a hell of a basketball
- 2:05game, Trent. It really did have a, I don't
- 2:07know if it was quite till the level of March, but it had a
- 2:10different feel, certainly in in in a good way.
- 2:13Definitely feels like a decided Iowa State advantage in terms of
- 2:17fan base. Yeah, that's for sure.
- 2:18Cyclone fans showed up, Yep. Johnny fans, not so much.
- 2:20No, no, it. Was a very cardinal and gold
- 2:24clad contingent out there for that one and they needed every
- 2:27single ounce of it, including the play with the balls
- 2:30deflected out of bounds. You got the two Cyclone fans
- 2:33behind the basket pointing, leading to TJ challenging the
- 2:37play. And it worked.
- 2:38I, I, I don't still think it was definitive, though.
- 2:41Was there anything definitive you know?
- 2:42Watching it and listening to the announcers kind of say the exact
- 2:45same thing that you're saying. I didn't think that they were
- 2:48going to change it either, but they did and worked out in Iowa
- 2:51State's favor. And that hasn't already been the
- 2:53case. But it was you're, you're 1000%
- 2:56right. I'm not sure if that influenced
- 2:58DJ or not, but that was a hell of a game.
- 3:00Buchanan in his final 4 1/2, maybe 5 minutes of that game,
- 3:04He's in foul trouble. They thought there's no way in
- 3:07hell he's going to finish the game.
- 3:08He's back out there with four. He picks him up like nobody's
- 3:11business. This has always been at least
- 3:13he's got to Iowa State. He's been his biggest problem.
- 3:16Jefferson is a beast. Manchilovich there it was there
- 3:20it was. You know, he's got it in him.
- 3:22He did. He was unbelievable in that game
- 3:25yesterday. I loved his interview post game
- 3:27where he says that little hook shot or whatever it was that
- 3:30that he made the game-winning show.
- 3:31He's never made one of those his life and he was forthcoming
- 3:35there. But of course, you know, as good
- 3:37as all that it was and it was phenomenal really was it was a
- 3:39hell of a game because edge of four is a phenomenal player.
- 3:42Sellers every time the the Red Storm needed a basket, there he
- 3:46was to make it. The story of the game Stamen
- 3:48Lipsy for me. And sadly, unfortunately, he's
- 3:51down again. Now.
- 3:52He's a game time decision. Game times in an hour, right?
- 3:55Right. We should find out here pretty
- 3:57quickly. Yeah, what this is going to be
- 3:59for him. If it's not out there already,
- 4:01we'll keep searching. The good news is Torre can
- 4:04handle it. He was good, Trent.
- 4:06Yep. You can handle that and what
- 4:07they got out of the bench, it wasn't scoring punch, but I
- 4:10thought all those guys off the bench, every single one of them
- 4:13had a moment. Yeah, Bateman.
- 4:15Yes, absolutely. Bateman did, but played it came
- 4:17in there. He played good defense.
- 4:19He did. How about Heise?
- 4:20He had a couple of monster rebounds, just rebounds when
- 4:23they it wasn't the scoring punch.
- 4:25You're going to have to have Manchelevich again, probably
- 4:27have that kind of performance with no Lipsy out there.
- 4:30This feels like a game, though. You might need Jefferson to go
- 4:33off or like 25 to. 12 and he's capable.
- 4:35Oh, no doubt. He's capable, as many Cyclone
- 4:38fans have said when they realized watching that game
- 4:40yesterday, that whoever wrote the final check to get him back
- 4:43thank you. And that's what they're grateful
- 4:44for as we embark on Thanksgiving weekend.
- 4:47It was a great game because I think Saint John's is a good
- 4:49team. Yes, they are talented team and
- 4:52they will be I think better as they start to come together more
- 4:55and more. A lot of new pieces, new faces
- 4:57there. And it's Patino and it's Patino
- 4:59that that dude can coach. It is official.
- 5:01This is from the Des Moines Register.
- 5:02Tame and Lipsy is out today with that groin injury.
- 5:06It is a different injury than he sustained a year ago.
- 5:09That outcomes from the Des Moines registered text group.
- 5:12Not sure if it was Eugene, he's out there, he's out there, or if
- 5:14it was Travis. But yeah, both those guys doing
- 5:17great work and Eugene on the ground down there in Vegas as we
- 5:20await this one in less than an hour.
- 5:23You know, so when the injury happened, it looked like he
- 5:26collided. His knee collided with one of
- 5:30the Saint John's players. Now I'm starting to think it's
- 5:33groin. Has there been any clarity?
- 5:36Does it say out with what or just?
- 5:38Yeah, with groin injury. It is a groin.
- 5:39Yes, and a different groin injury than he sustained last.
- 5:42Different groin injury well we'll see obviously they played
- 5:45today, they'll play tomorrow. We don't know what time they're
- 5:48going to play tomorrow. We do know that the despite the
- 5:51fact that they knocked off a a Top 14 team and they got a good
- 5:55Creighton team coming up, the likelihood of them playing for a
- 5:58championship Trenton in this format, it's slim to none.
- 6:02But the good news is, is I think that the powers that be have
- 6:05realized we got a Tiger by the tail here that this players are
- 6:09a tournament is a is going to take the play, sadly of a, of a
- 6:14lot of those, you know, Thanksgiving type tournaments.
- 6:17And I mean, it's already expanded to 32.
- 6:21Brett, your mark apparently was on some podcast, some show, I'm
- 6:24not sure which one it was. And he said that they will, they
- 6:28have 8 invites to this tournament next year.
- 6:30And those 8 invites will go based on your standings in
- 6:35conference play. So we'll know in March if Iowa
- 6:38State's going back there to Las Vegas in 2026.
- 6:43Yeah, the so if it is a 32 team endeavour like they're working
- 6:49to do. Yep.
- 6:50You have 8 teams? Yep, you're going to have four
- 6:53separate brackets. Yes, I think that's the way it
- 6:57is. So here's how was it was
- 6:59explained to me second hand. It's going to take place over 2
- 7:04weeks yes. Then the one pod or the two
- 7:08teams, whatever one group or or 16 of the teams would play one
- 7:12week, then the following 16 would play the next week and
- 7:15then a number of those teams would come back for whatever
- 7:20Black Friday what at some point to decide the champion.
- 7:24So. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 7:26So you're going to you got to help me out with this.
- 7:29So you're going to go out to Vegas for two games, not going
- 7:33to play the championship? Nope.
- 7:35Well, that's. It's over 2.
- 7:37I hate this idea again, I I. 16 teams will go the first week
- 7:41just like just play 4 brackets. I'm with you, I'm with you.
- 7:44Good God. Why do they have to know why I
- 7:46think it is difficult. I think I know the answer to
- 7:48this question because as of last night into today, there's a
- 7:52whole bunch of television networks that are competing for
- 7:55this event now they they tru TV and TBS, whoever's got it now.
- 7:59No, they don't have guarantees on ESPN wants it, Fox wants it.
- 8:04There's a whole bunch of entities that want to get
- 8:06involved because look, I, I think that they've proven that
- 8:10this has got a chance to be a major success.
- 8:14So you're going to fly out to Vegas for two games, then you're
- 8:16going to come back out a week later to play a game.
- 8:19You're O and two, we got to fly out to Vegas to play the 17th
- 8:22place game. Well, I don't think it would go
- 8:24that far. Well, you have to though,
- 8:26because you're going to guarantee teams three games.
- 8:29That's why you play an exempt. Have you seen that yet?
- 8:31No, but I don't. Need I'm just living in that's
- 8:35that's the justification. That's why we have these events.
- 8:37These events are they only count against one game on your resume
- 8:41and you're able to play three games about them.
- 8:43You're not going to. See, I don't think honestly.
- 8:46Think I think you want the guaranteed 3 games.
- 8:47I'm with you. But I think that they're doing
- 8:49this. I think they're doing this
- 8:51year's tournament kind of on the fly.
- 8:52Oh, absolutely. I don't think that they, you
- 8:54know, when the planes landed on Sunday, they were certain how
- 8:58this thing is going to work. Oh, by the way, it starts
- 9:00tomorrow, this being yesterday and and Tuesday.
- 9:04So it's it's a work in progress. I think they're making this much
- 9:08more difficult than it needs. And, and maybe they'll come
- 9:10together and get it right because I'm with you there were.
- 9:13Games where there was no fans in the stands.
- 9:15None. Very few.
- 9:17And now you're going to ask fan base to travel for two games.
- 9:20And you know, some of the talking heads in college
- 9:22basketball, like a Mike Decorsi who doesn't want this to succeed
- 9:25for whatever reason. Maybe he's got stock in the
- 9:28Rainbow Classic or whatever it is.
- 9:30I don't know why, but he's Pooh poohing it.
- 9:32He's Pooh poohing this tournament because no one's
- 9:34showing up to what? Well, if it's that big of a
- 9:36deal, look at the stands. How come they're empty?
- 9:38Well, it's Thanksgiving week. It's Monday morning.
- 9:41I, I don't know the answer to that, but turn on your TV and
- 9:43watch the damn game. You tell me you weren't
- 9:45entertained by I was state in Saint John's yesterday.
- 9:47You went. I thought he liked college
- 9:49basketball. If he didn't like that
- 9:51yesterday, he's been lying. That was phenomenal hoops.
- 9:54It was phenomenal Hoops. I think he wasn't talking about
- 9:57just the. Basketball, all he was talking
- 9:59about was the lack of fans and, and, and for that reason, look
- 10:02at his tweet. For that reason, you're trying
- 10:03to tell me this is a big event. It's not.
- 10:06But we see Maui filled up. Well, so why?
- 10:09But we've also seen other quote UN quote big tournaments.
- 10:12That isn't the case. People used to go to Alaska.
- 10:14Yeah, absolutely. They did right and showed up in
- 10:17a big time way for that. I think that there, if that's
- 10:22the thought process, we're gonna go back to this two team pod and
- 10:25we're gonna figure it out. And he got 32 teams.
- 10:28How many of those teams finished two and 8/10/12?
- 10:3215 chance, certainly. So it's a bunch and then you're
- 10:35sorry you're you're relegated to the 7th place game because you
- 10:38didn't win by enough. No, and knock it.
- 10:39Off That's what's going to happen to Iowa State if they be
- 10:41praying today. Yeah, they might not even be in
- 10:43the third place. There's a pretty good chance,
- 10:45like the odds came out going into today, the favourites to
- 10:49win this thing. Gonzaga's 2 to one Iowa State
- 10:52beat #14 Saint John. They're 25 to one, right?
- 10:56Because they know they can't get in.
- 10:57They only won by one. That's not good enough.
- 11:00And even if they win by the Max is 20, that is when it's capped.
- 11:03You mentioned that before we went on the air today.
- 11:06So even that plus 21, I don't know if that's going to be
- 11:10enough to get up. There.
- 11:10So it's a quad one victory. But one victory.
- 11:13That may that may be as big of a incentive as anything.
- 11:17Well, of course, yeah. I mean, you're getting great
- 11:18games out of it, right? But for the players that thought
- 11:21maybe you've got a chance that whatever the money is, sorry,
- 11:24didn't win by enough, it's not a good luck.
- 11:27I think there's more issues with this tournament and I think
- 11:29they're creating more obstacles if they go back.
- 11:32I agree with you. I do think though, that based on
- 11:36what we've seen amongst the level of play in these
- 11:39tournaments, that I would hope that they do whatever it takes
- 11:43to make this thing kind of seamless, run smoothly because
- 11:47this has a chance, I think to be a like we're talking about
- 11:50college basketball and rivalry week of college football.
- 11:54Nothing beats King football. This is this is cutting into it.
- 11:58But if Iowa State wasn't there, would you be?
- 12:00I know I would be because I'm a huge college basketball
- 12:02fairpoint. Because I get excited every year
- 12:04about FEAST. Week I'll give you that point.
- 12:07Fair, fair, because we've got one of no, it's not just an
- 12:11state thing if Iowa. Was there?
- 12:12Sure, but yeah. But yes, it clearly helps that
- 12:16that one of our needle movers is out there and is off to a pretty
- 12:19good start. Fair Fairpoint.
- 12:23I don't want all the tournaments to go away.
- 12:25I don't want it to just be this. Does that mean the other
- 12:28tournaments need to change? Well, they have you know what
- 12:31you know sadly, what changed these things COVID, I mean
- 12:34COVID, COVID changed brought some of these tournaments back
- 12:38onto the quote mainland, right Hawaii.
- 12:43Why would you, if you've got a chance to be 1 of 32 in this and
- 12:47and guarantee $1,000,000 and knowing that the out the outlier
- 12:55when it when it comes to writing that check to to chartering that
- 12:58plane. You can charter a plane to
- 12:59Vegas, you're flying commercial to Hawaii, right?
- 13:03And that adds up. And I don't know the hotel
- 13:05arrangements in Hawaii or here, but it's significantly cheaper,
- 13:10I would assume to go to Vegas for your team as opposed to go
- 13:14to Hawaii, right? I don't know.
- 13:17I just think it's got a great chance.
- 13:18I've enjoyed it. Yes, that's a great point.
- 13:21That's a fairpoint. Am I paying more attention to
- 13:24this because one of our two needle movers is in it?
- 13:26Without a doubt, Yeah, without a doubt.
- 13:28Would I be going out of my weight at at 1:00 here this
- 13:32afternoon to watch? I don't know.
- 13:36Houston Creighton. Houston Creighton or Illinois
- 13:38Creighton or whatever? Probably not, but if it was Iowa
- 13:44and you know, Saint John's or whoever, you know, there's,
- 13:48there's a whole bunch of them I can put in there.
- 13:50But it was fun yesterday, no doubt about that.
- 13:53All right, we're going to be joined by Lee Sterling coming up
- 13:55on the other side. We will get into football with
- 13:57Lee. Look forward to doing that.
- 13:59He's got a 5 pack of games that he will opine on.
- 14:02We'll recap the weekend in the NFL because we really never
- 14:06touched on that yesterday. Spent a lot of time obviously on
- 14:09the on Iowa and Iowa State and their wins over the weekend.
- 14:12So we'll get into a little NFL as the Niners, despite the fact
- 14:16their quarterback Brock Purdy being picked off 3 times in
- 14:19Monday Night Football last night, they were able to prevail
- 14:22and beat Carolina and and Carolina looked their their
- 14:25record said that they were getting back towards a playoff
- 14:28run. But that's there's no way in
- 14:30hell that team's a playoff that that that team is worthy of a
- 14:33playoff. I don't know about the Niners.
- 14:36I think they got a lot of warts and I think they got two teams
- 14:38in their own division that are significantly better than them.
- 14:42Your thoughts on last night? 49ers.
- 14:44Yeah, playoff team, maybe a seven seed.
- 14:48No, that's it. Well, four are taken.
- 14:53One's going to Seattle or Los Angeles, so you're down to 6/7.
- 14:58I Packers who else? Cowboys are starting to move in
- 15:04that direction. Still got a lot of work but I I
- 15:07mean. They're also, what, three games
- 15:09back are they of the 49ers? Yeah, 5, five and one and eight
- 15:13and four. 2 1/2, I guess. 3 in the win column.
- 15:17Yeah, they're a playoff team. They're getting in.
- 15:20They're getting in at 6. 30 is not winning a playoff game
- 15:23playing like he did last night. No, he was bad.
- 15:24He was bad last night. Here's Todd.
- 15:26Todd, welcome to the show. How are you?
- 15:28Dude, how are you guys doing today?
- 15:29What's on your mind, Sir? Well, you know, we're talking
- 15:32about all these preseason tournaments.
- 15:34Did you guys happen to catch or cover at all the NCAA national
- 15:37duels that had the $1,000,000 purse?
- 15:40I did, yeah. So I I did.
- 15:42Ken did not. He's not the wrestling guy.
- 15:43But yes, I absolutely did. Iowa got trounced in the
- 15:46championship by Ohio State and looked awful in the process.
- 15:49But if they can put together for college wrestling, get national
- 15:54duels back, it's been away for a number of years.
- 15:56Getting it back and putting $1,000,000 prize pool for
- 15:58wrestling. I can't Maui, why can't some of
- 16:01the ESPN events at Disney? Why can't the battle for
- 16:04Atlantis and I think because of that the players era is not
- 16:08going to take over. It's just the other tournaments
- 16:10have to evolve to turn into what they're having there.
- 16:13They. Need the money to evolve?
- 16:15Right. But if if wrestling could do it,
- 16:17if wrestling could put together $1,000,000 prize pool, then Maui
- 16:21certainly can with the money that they get from ESPN, That
- 16:25absolutely can happen. I think it kind of goes hand in
- 16:27hand, Todd. I, I will say that it was a
- 16:30private donor that was a, a former NCAA wrestler that put up
- 16:34all the money for it. So, you know, I all the
- 16:37preliminary rounds were covered on flow wrestling.
- 16:40So I'm sure, you know, their subscription shot through the
- 16:43roof and they made a ton of money and then only the finals
- 16:46were televised. I think ESPN needs to do a
- 16:49better job of covering more of this.
- 16:51There was some really special moments, you know, watching the
- 16:53Ferrari brothers, you know, because Nebraska was there
- 16:56watching the older brother sit there in his full Nebraska gear
- 16:59rooting on his brother who's wrestling at Iowa, you know, was
- 17:02just insane to see. I mean, there were so many good
- 17:04images. You and I went down there, I
- 17:06think they came home with 50 grand.
- 17:08You know, Iowa, Iowa came home with over 200 grand because you
- 17:12got you got money for winning around.
- 17:14You got money for having the most takedowns, you know, and I
- 17:18think Ohio State got 250,000 for winning the thing.
- 17:21So the the $1,000,000 got spread out and everybody that went down
- 17:24there got a little bit of money. I think it's only going to get
- 17:27bigger next year. Well, who's going to, who's
- 17:28going to, is the, is the donor going to pony up again next
- 17:32year? Todd, you know.
- 17:34Yeah, he's already. He's already in interviewed.
- 17:36Him, he's already in for a couple more years and you know
- 17:40he's going to keep it in Tulsa. I will tell you I was extremely
- 17:43disappointed about the attendance, you know, and Iowa
- 17:46Duel me had better attendance than that had.
- 17:48Yeah, Where are you, Mike De Corsi?
- 17:50Where are you beefing about that, Todd?
- 17:52Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks for the call.
- 17:53I appreciate it. Have a good one.
- 17:55Yeah, you do the same. Good song.
- 17:57I did not know about it. I did not, to be perfectly
- 18:00honest with you, that that Trent was able to take a peek at that
- 18:04because it did not appear on my radar.
- 18:07All right, we'll get a couple more calls in here before we
- 18:09take a break and make way for Lee Sterling from
- 18:12paramountsportsparamountsports.com for Lee Elliot Cleft still to
- 18:16come this hour as well as he will talk about the Hawks.
- 18:21They have a little couple of media availabilities.
- 18:23Let's get Taylor first of all. Hello, Taylor.
- 18:25Welcome to the program. How are you?
- 18:28Good, can't complain on this. Dreary day, yeah.
- 18:31Well, the sun was a little bit ago anyways.
- 18:33Yep, go ahead. San Francisco Not a huge fan,
- 18:37but I I like the way the coach coaches.
- 18:41I'm a big fan. Played the Rams twice and they
- 18:44split. They played Seattle at Seattle
- 18:48and beat them and they beat Phoenix both times.
- 18:53Arizona. Yep.
- 18:56If they, if they split with or if they beat Seattle at home.
- 19:01They have a lot of. If if they match, they'll have.
- 19:05The. The division, second place.
- 19:09So I just, everybody keeps saying it's a long shot, but
- 19:12they played it within their division.
- 19:14What have they got? And their schedule is not their.
- 19:15Schedule is easy. It is easy.
- 19:18Yes, very easy. At Browns, home to Titans.
- 19:21At Colts, home to Bears at Seahawks.
- 19:24Sam Franz getting in. You're right.
- 19:26Sam Franz getting in just and. They're not dead for the
- 19:29division. Probably not.
- 19:31I still think the other two teams are better.
- 19:36Who do you trust more, Darnold or Purdy?
- 19:38Trent Purdy? You have to pick one.
- 19:40Purdy, I don't think it's close. Anything else, Taylor?
- 19:45Nope, that's. It thank you.
- 19:46Happy Thanksgiving. Appreciate the call.
- 19:48Yeah, look at you trying to take out the red pen and cross off
- 19:51the Niners. Niners are in the play offs, I
- 19:53said. Seventh seed.
- 19:54They're not dead for the division.
- 19:56You would you bet your money on it at the condo, casino or
- 19:59anywhere else? What kind of price you get, I'll
- 20:01give you 20 to 1. Yes, absolutely, 20 to 1.
- 20:05They're not winning the division.
- 20:06The Rams are. The Rams are the best team in
- 20:08the NFC. They might be.
- 20:10Doesn't mean they can't lose. It's the NFL.
- 20:11Hello, Mike, How are you? Let's go to Mike in Waterloo.
- 20:14What's up? Hey, what's going on, you guys,
- 20:16you know, you know who's going to lead Iowa State and dunk this
- 20:20year? This might be a far fetched
- 20:21idea. I think that point guard.
- 20:23Point guard, Yeah. Don't you think you know?
- 20:28He's got some athleticism. Yeah, Last week they said when
- 20:31he was in grade school he was 5 foot 5 1/2 and he was dunking
- 20:35the basketball. Then I I thought I heard that.
- 20:39That's amazing. Is it?
- 20:40Is well, I'm not sure I'd go that far to buy that one.
- 20:43I don't think Jordan was in that age, but you mean, who knows,
- 20:47maybe juries the second coming. Well, you see him take off
- 20:51about. From the free field, he's a heck
- 20:52of a. Player, he's a.
- 20:53Great. He's got a player, they've got a
- 20:55player in two. Yeah, my boy just got back from
- 20:58North Carolina. He watched two of the North
- 21:00Carolina hockey games. So he's been getting, he's about
- 21:04hit every arena except for Canada now.
- 21:08You mean the Caroline Hurricanes?
- 21:10Yeah, he went. To the How about that?
- 21:12Good for him, That's a good team.
- 21:15What's that? That's a good team.
- 21:16That's a good hockey team. Hey, my sister was bragging
- 21:19about the Minnesota team because that that Russians really doing
- 21:24good up there. Caprisoff is a superstar.
- 21:27Yes, he is. Well, have a good Thanksgiving.
- 21:29Yeah, you too. MM, good to hear from you.
- 21:31Good to hear from you. Yeah, I mean, Tory's a hell of a
- 21:35player. Yes, he is.
- 21:36He's a hell of a player. And gives them a shot today.
- 21:38That point spread. There were some 9 and a halfs in
- 21:40the market yesterday. Went to 9 1/2 at one point.
- 21:43Well, when it reopened then this morning, yeah, 7 1/2 some
- 21:48sevens. It's down to 5 1/2 after.
- 21:50There's news now that lifts. It out and again, we tried to
- 21:53watch the Creighton Iowa State exhibition game that I'm not
- 21:56sure what you can draw for it other than the fact that
- 21:59Creighton was seemingly at least in that game.
- 22:04Now they looked like they were significantly better than I was
- 22:08staying at that point of the season.
- 22:09But it's an exhibition game and TJ was, you know, he was trying
- 22:13to figure out what he had. I'm sure we'll get a good we'll
- 22:16get a good look here coming up in less than an hour as I was
- 22:19state and Creighton Kalida strength said that number is now
- 22:21down to 5 1/2. Speaking of numbers, we'll get
- 22:24to Lee Sterling coming up on the other side, paramountsports.com
- 22:28Elliot Cleft still to come Cappy on the bears.
- 22:30So what about your bears? What did you want?
- 22:33What did you think watching the Steeler game?
- 22:36It was who was going to out bear, out stealer each other and
- 22:40the Bears were able to do it. There's still those long
- 22:43stretches of inconsistency from Caleb.
- 22:45You watch a 1/2 quarter to possession, like how's this guy
- 22:48going to stick in the league? Then you watch him in the fourth
- 22:51quarter, he looks like a different guy.
- 22:54He is inconsistent, but he's incredibly talented.
- 22:58His team believes the defense stinks, yet they're forcing
- 23:01these turnovers. I know.
- 23:02Can he sustain that? No, you don't think so.
- 23:04I wouldn't think. So.
- 23:05But we have so many examples. I love the story.
- 23:07It's better for business when the bears are good.
- 23:09Absolutely. They keep finding ways.
- 23:13The schedule obviously is going to ramp up.
- 23:16There's still not a win that you look at and say, oh boy, that's
- 23:19a good win. There's still not one.
- 23:21OK, is is O'Connell lying about the concussion?
- 23:26Yes. And do we do we think we'll see
- 23:28McCarthy again this year? Yes.
- 23:31You think he does play again? Because Max Brosnor will
- 23:33probably stink and then they'll go back to him and give him the
- 23:37final five games or whatever it is.
- 23:39I think you have to play him if you possibly can.
- 23:42You know what, it would have been maybe made more sense
- 23:44because we, you know, he needs to get more reps.
- 23:46I don't know, maybe play him during the preseason.
- 23:48Yeah. Probably wouldn't have been a
- 23:50bad idea. Were they hiding that far back
- 23:54though? I mean, could that be part of
- 23:55it? They knew that this guy's going
- 23:57to fall on his face. The numbers we mentioned one of
- 24:01them yesterday, they're, they're just damning coming back from
- 24:04this. It's a near impossibility.
- 24:07And what can you point to to say, yeah, this guy's going to
- 24:10figure? There's hope there.
- 24:11No, there's no hope. There's no hope there's not when
- 24:14I not, but that I have seen. He can't go through his
- 24:16progressions. No, absolutely no touch on his
- 24:18passes. It is over for JJ McCarthy.
- 24:22I hate to say it. It's done.
- 24:27I hate to say it. All right, we'll take a time
- 24:29out. Lee Sterling next.
- 24:30Paramount Sports, Miller and Condon underway into Tuesday.
- 24:33Glad you're with us on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
- 24:39Hi, Miller and Condon, welcome back.
- 24:40Iowa Sports Radio Network. Still to come this hour, Elliot
- 24:43Kleffel, head to iowacityhawkeyeinsider.com.
- 24:46Latest on the Hawks as they get set to travel to Nebraska.
- 24:49Black Friday at 11:00 kick. You can hear the game down the
- 24:52hall on News Radio 1040. WHO?
- 24:56If you can't be in front of a television where you can watch
- 25:00it, CBS have the game. I believe it's a It is
- 25:02absolutely. All right, let's get Lee
- 25:04Sterling in here. paramountsports.com.
- 25:06Happy Thanksgiving. Lee Sterling, how are you?
- 25:09I can't complain except for I was talking to trend off the
- 25:15fair. My Twitter got hacked.
- 25:18Or should I say hi? To.
- 25:20Other than that, yeah, everything's good other than
- 25:22that. So real quick on that 'cause I
- 25:24know it's happened to a lot of people.
- 25:25How long are you without your account?
- 25:28Does it vary or did you get yours back right away?
- 25:33I could spend 5 days and I've heard you can get it back in a
- 25:36day. The common time is usually a
- 25:40week to 10 days and I've heard a couple people a week a month to
- 25:44a month to to a couple months. So problem is you can't contact
- 25:48anyone. You you send emails, you can't
- 25:50talk. You can't talk to a live person.
- 25:53Brutal, brutal. Well, let's get into what's on
- 25:55the slate this week. Let's get to rivalry week and
- 25:58some of the games. How about this intriguing 1
- 25:59Tennessee, Vanderbilt, An opportunity for Diego and
- 26:03company to get to 10 and two on the air.
- 26:05Maybe still a path to the College Football Playoff.
- 26:07Even a Heisman moment maybe for Diego here. 2 1/2 Tennessee the
- 26:11favorite in this one. Oh, if he pulls off the upset
- 26:15here, he certainly should be in the top three, no doubt about
- 26:18it, because last year they were dominated.
- 26:20I mean, wasn't just a score 3623.
- 26:23They were at home and they only had 212 total yards, whereas
- 26:27Tennessee put up 528 in that game.
- 26:31So I think that that Vanderbilt, I don't they're built to play
- 26:36this type of game. They like to slow it down.
- 26:38There are 126 out of 136 teams as far as to play only 61 plays
- 26:44per game. Tennessee likes to go quick, and
- 26:46Vanderbilt doesn't have that great depth on the defense.
- 26:50Tennessee gets off over 73 plays per game #13 in the country.
- 26:55Both teams played super well last week.
- 26:58I mean, really well. I mean, Vanderbilt dominated
- 27:01from the word go. 43 interceptions from the Kentucky
- 27:05quarterback. Tennessee's up 31.
- 27:06Nothing at the half here. I'm just not so sure that
- 27:10Vanderbilt has closed. Who's the gap enough to win
- 27:14here? I'm going to go with Joey
- 27:15Swaggilar, Tennessee 3520. Eight.
- 27:18I like it. All right, here's the game.
- 27:20And it's Ohio State who has not won the game in the last four
- 27:24times they've taken the field. They're a big favorite.
- 27:26The game is Ann Arbor. I'm anxious to hear your
- 27:29thoughts on this one, Lee. All right, one, we can look at
- 27:34their games here this week because the home teams are
- 27:40playing for for a College Football Playoff.
- 27:42But these two teams are, and Michigan is going to have to
- 27:46win, win pretty big here to make a case Ohio State could have
- 27:50some trouble because Michigan style is one that is fully
- 27:55capable of giving Ohio State some problems.
- 27:57So Ohio State last year, 2.6 yards per carry allowed.
- 28:01This year, the same, although I think they're a little bit
- 28:04better. Last year's game, Michigan 42
- 28:06rushes for 172 yards over 4 yards to carry.
- 28:10Now this year, Justice Haynes, her top running back, is out
- 28:13there. Running backs are really banged
- 28:15up here, second and third guys, but they will play.
- 28:18It looks like Michigan really hasn't faced any great offense.
- 28:21There's only one good defense in Oklahoma and lost 2413 on the
- 28:26road where they were outstated four O 8 to 288 and they were
- 28:30even plus 2IN turnovers. I just think that these three
- 28:33receivers, I mean Brent Brandon Ennis, Cornell paid and Jeremiah
- 28:39Smith are just too much here. Even their tight end Max fire
- 28:43just incredible here. Michigan's past defense only
- 28:46ranked 44th and I think they're susceptible to passes down the
- 28:52field. I like Ohio State, they pull
- 28:54away 3116. Heroes trophy on the line in
- 28:57Lincoln, a place where Iowa has a loss since 2011.
- 29:01Number is 5 1/2 in the battle that Scott Van Pelt calls corn
- 29:04versus crops. Iowa, Nebraska.
- 29:06But he got in this one. Hawkeyes lay in five and a half.
- 29:10You know what, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a big enough believer
- 29:14here in TJ Latif. I mean, he played fine against
- 29:17UCLA, but that's a really bad defense here.
- 29:21So if you watch, they just can't push the ball down the field.
- 29:24If I'm if I'm Iowa, I beg them, beg them to throw the ball deep.
- 29:28He'll throw into coverage. Not real accurate throwing the
- 29:31ball down the field. And I don't think he's going to
- 29:33have time. You can, I think you can blitz
- 29:34him to death too. So I just look out for the
- 29:37screens here. I think Iowa has it covered.
- 29:39I'm going with a Hawk guys here 31 to 17.
- 29:43All right, let's go to Thanksgiving.
- 29:44It's the midday game where the television networks are already
- 29:48forecasting that this will set a record for the highest viewed
- 29:51regular season game in history. Why wouldn't?
- 29:54It's Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
- 29:55It's the Cowboys on Thanksgiving.
- 29:57Chiefs who found a way to beat the Colts last week or 3 1/2
- 30:00Point Rd. favorite. They did.
- 30:02It didn't look good. They kept having to settle for
- 30:05field goals and even had to settle for a field goal at the
- 30:08end of regulation when they get to the one yard line.
- 30:11I mean, bottom line is I think people are starting to figure
- 30:13out Kansas City, give their defense credit, make the last
- 30:16four or five series on defense. They got a three and out every
- 30:20single time. But that was Indianapolis.
- 30:22Now they have to play a Dallas team that is on an absolute role
- 30:27right now. They have weapons galore.
- 30:30And if you're thinking, oh, CD Lamb, well, CD Lamb right now,
- 30:35not even the best receiver on the team.
- 30:37I mean look at picking George Pickens, 67 catches, 100,054
- 30:44yards, 8 touchdowns. They got two number ones.
- 30:48Ferguson a tight end, he's tough to guard.
- 30:51Williams they got from Denver for some reason Denver let him
- 30:53go. 2 years removed from that ACL injury here.
- 30:57Dallas. What kind of confidence they
- 30:59have after coming back from down 21 to nothing here.
- 31:02This line should be close. He'll pick them here.
- 31:04Give me the Cowboys. I want them Cowboys.
- 31:07Dallas here, 31 to 26. The wrong team is favored
- 31:11wrapping. Things up at the Sunday night
- 31:13affair. Jaden Daniels is back of
- 31:15practice but unlikely to play this week against the Broncos.
- 31:19Just short of a touchdown. 6 1/2 The Broncos favored.
- 31:23And and you know what, the Broncos just aren't winning by
- 31:26enough of a margin. But you're going to go on the
- 31:27road. I know the Commanders are beaten
- 31:29up. Might get back a couple of their
- 31:32receivers here. Look what they've done the last
- 31:34couple weeks. This is a team that just
- 31:36absolutely can't score. And when you can't score, do you
- 31:40want to be laying close to a touchdown or more?
- 31:43I don't last three weeks. Well played Houston on the road,
- 31:4718 home against Las Vegas, who is dreadful right now.
- 31:53There's receivers running wild. They could run the 5th and 6th
- 31:57Stringers, guys from the practice squad, other teams and
- 31:59get open and they only scored 22 at home against Kansas City.
- 32:04Played a little bit better in the fourth quarter.
- 32:05So I played that many points on the road here.
- 32:08Another wrong team favorite. I'm going to say the Commanders
- 32:11will knock off the Broncos here. Good spot for him.
- 32:15Commanders 24230. Yo-yo, yo-yo, I'm a Broncos
- 32:20family. I didn't like to hear that.
- 32:21I know, I know. Your game of the week and it
- 32:25involves Iowa State. They're on the road.
- 32:27Oklahoma State yet to win a conference game again this year.
- 32:31If the audience wants more information on your game of the
- 32:33week, Iowa State at Oklahoma State, what should they do?
- 32:36Lee Sterling. Just call right now.
- 32:39First five callers, I'm gonna give this game for free.
- 32:42Think there's a clear right side of this game?
- 32:44Is it going to be a blowout or maybe an upset or at least
- 32:49close? And Oklahoma State covers like
- 32:51the last couple weeks. 1st 10 callers, 800-400-9741 Get Iowa
- 32:57State and Oklahoma State on me, 800-400-9741.
- 33:01And this weekend is it shoot out 15 games from Thanksgiving Day
- 33:10all the way through Sunday. So if you're headed out, you
- 33:13want to get the games now ready to go.
- 33:16You put all back Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 15 games, just
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- 33:31All you need to do is go to the website paramountsports.com.
- 33:34We'll say this Turkey student, we've had some 13 and 2:12 and
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- 33:43Happy Thanksgiving, Lee. You too guys.
- 33:46Take care. Thank you, Lee Sterling,
- 33:48paramountsports.com. All right, there you have it.
- 33:50Let's get a break. We'll head to Iowa City when we
- 33:52come back. Elliot Cleft joins Miller and
- 33:54Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
- 34:07Hi, Miller Conven, Welcome back. Iowa Sports Radio Network coming
- 34:10up in the second hour of our program.
- 34:12David Kaplan will join us. KAPI, I'll join us.
- 34:15Kick off the hour. And then Stephen M Simple covers
- 34:18Nebraska, Elliott Clef covers Iowa, hawkeyeinsider.com and he
- 34:22joins the program. Good to speak with you, Elliott.
- 34:25How are you? Happy Thanksgiving.
- 34:27Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving, guys. Good.
- 34:29I'm hanging in there before quite a bit of travel this
- 34:32weekend and yeah, doing doing the job and then heading to the
- 34:36Quad Cities and then Ida Grove and then Lincoln and Council
- 34:39Bluffs for a prep red zone event and then back Cedar Rapids.
- 34:42So quite a weekend ahead. A lot of windshield time, no
- 34:46doubt about it. You know, I thought that I
- 34:49didn't hear the whole press conference, postgame press
- 34:51conference. I heard obviously Kirk
- 34:53recognizing Michael Oz, which wasn't a surprise.
- 34:55Knowing Kirk, he's classy dude and not surprised that he, you
- 34:59know, called out one of the old timers on the beat that
- 35:02unfortunately is going to lose gig.
- 35:04So, but that aside, I thought your question about the 2002
- 35:08Purdue Iowa game certainly drew some laughs in the room and and
- 35:13caused the head coach to have a chuckle in his own right.
- 35:15Why don't you reset that scene if you would.
- 35:17I thought that was really good. Sure.
- 35:20So throughout the the whole game, and you guys might have
- 35:23seen some of my tweets or something in a story, but that
- 35:26game felt like 2023 Iowa in the worst way without elite punning.
- 35:31And I had mentioned that to David Eichel, who was sitting
- 35:35next to me on Twitter, all that. But Kirk had said that Raymond
- 35:40Braithwaite mentioned it on the sideline and said, man, that
- 35:43felt like 2002. I, I just popped it up by
- 35:47saying, you know, I know you mentioned 2002.
- 35:50I was 6 at the time. So I, I would say it reminded me
- 35:53of 2023. What do you think about that?
- 35:55That was pretty much that. And Kirk.
- 35:58Kirk always appreciates being reminded how old he.
- 36:01You know what he's got, though. He's got a remarkable memory.
- 36:03It just, it never ceases to amaze me, his recall of games,
- 36:07of circumstances. I'm sure he doesn't get them all
- 36:10right and something might slip by him, but boy, not very many,
- 36:13Elliot. No, no, he'll, I, I mean, we
- 36:17have, we have basically a running bit within the media
- 36:21that there's at least one or two 1980s references per Kirk
- 36:25Ference press conference. So yeah, his, his recall, he's
- 36:28clearly been working on it for a while.
- 36:30He, he remembers stuff like that just about every week.
- 36:34So yeah, that's that's his shtick for sure.
- 36:37Quick turn around, obviously with the Black Friday game.
- 36:39Iowa has been normally pretty good in these spots
- 36:42historically, not just against the press.
- 36:45Yeah, Haven't lost in Lincoln since 2011.
- 36:48I mean, they kind of have this down.
- 36:50I think it shows you a lot about Kirk.
- 36:53Same thing this week for you guys.
- 36:54Everything the same. Everything going to be the same
- 36:56inside the locker room and and coming on the heels of, I think
- 36:59overall a disappointing effort against Michigan State.
- 37:02You think we're going to see a different team out there on
- 37:04Friday? That's a good.
- 37:07Question, you know, from everything that I've learned in,
- 37:10you know, the short amount of time about Nebraska is that they
- 37:13don't have a particularly good run defense.
- 37:16Obviously JT Latif is or is it TJ Latif, their quarterback?
- 37:21Yeah, is in a different sort of situation and in that he's young
- 37:26and taking over for Dylan Rayola.
- 37:27But yeah, you know, I'm not sure.
- 37:30This game is always weird, right?
- 37:32I mean, something happened, something's weird, somebody
- 37:35forces a turnover, somebody can't score.
- 37:38It's really cold. There's a possibility of snow
- 37:40this weekend. And so I size 40% on the Apple
- 37:45with weather app. So that might not be fully
- 37:47accurate and we're obviously a few days out, but I mean,
- 37:50there's always something crazy that happens in this game.
- 37:53Do I, do I think that we'll see a different team?
- 37:57That's that's there's a few days different ways to take that, I
- 38:01suppose. I don't think that effort will
- 38:04be in question. Obviously it's going to be
- 38:07different because this game is just intense in terms of the
- 38:10rivalry. So I, I, I would say the game
- 38:13might be different. Do we see a different team?
- 38:15I I don't know about that. Yeah, look, you're right.
- 38:19They, Nebraska's got they still. And we've been talking to Simple
- 38:23for years about this. When they first came into the
- 38:24Big 10, Simple's main concern was, are they ready for the
- 38:27physicality in the trenches, both lines?
- 38:30Is Nebraska prepared for that? And to this day, I don't think
- 38:34that they've caught up. They've got a really good
- 38:36running back. I'm sure you've seen Emma
- 38:38Johnson. You've seen, you know what he's
- 38:40done this year? Latif's first game was OK
- 38:43against the, you know, mediocre UCLA team and then Penn State
- 38:46exposed them. But as you said, Elliott and
- 38:49Trent said repeatedly throw, this is a field goal game every
- 38:52time, every, every time. This game comes down to A to a
- 38:55field goal. So we shall see when the depth
- 38:57chart came out yesterday, Elliott, anything that caught
- 39:00your attention that was different that that maybe you
- 39:03weren't expecting? Maybe not that I wasn't
- 39:07expecting, but not seeing TJ Hall again on there was probably
- 39:12a little concerning. Obviously, again, Latif not the
- 39:15greatest passer in the world, but I would love to pronounce
- 39:18the Michigan State's last name. The quarterback's last name.
- 39:20It was, I don't even say it, but he wasn't known to be this great
- 39:23passer either, and he looked pretty damn good against the
- 39:25Hawkeyes and certain certain plays.
- 39:28So that's something that definitely caught my eye.
- 39:31We'll ask about Kirk about that. We got the presser actually
- 39:34moved up to 130. So it's a good thing we're
- 39:35talking at 12:45 here. But we'll we'll we'll see on on
- 39:40that. Obviously Hayden large not on
- 39:42the depth chart as well. So we'll see.
- 39:44You know, and I don't know that that Hayden will have, you know,
- 39:48a massive impact on the game. He is a walk on tight end, of
- 39:51course, but he did jump into that starting lineup, especially
- 39:54without the Addison Ospranga for the majority of the season.
- 39:57So he's kind of your energy guy too, right?
- 39:59I mean we've seen the videos of him hyping up the team before
- 40:02the the game and and he's a pretty good blocker for the most
- 40:05part and he's got a few passes this year.
- 40:07So those are the two things that that stood out the most.
- 40:11Other than that, you know, 5 running backs on the depth chart
- 40:13again, which that that happened a little while ago.
- 40:16All offensive lineman. The starters are available, it
- 40:20seems. So that's good.
- 40:21Obviously none of them went out last week against Michigan
- 40:24State, but they've all a lot of them have been dealing with
- 40:26injuries throughout the year. So availability that's that's.
- 40:29That's the number one thing. Quick hit tonight men's
- 40:32basketball team their first major test against Old Miss
- 40:35about 20 seconds left with you. Elliot Quick thought on that
- 40:37one. It'll be interesting.
- 40:39I mean I think you got 2 certified basketball psychos and
- 40:43Ben McCullum and Chris Beard. It'll be the first Test of the
- 40:46season for the Hawks against, you know, they they played
- 40:49Xavier, of course, a power forward or excuse me, a high
- 40:51major team, but Ole Miss, there's some talent there.
- 40:55Kez a GIF a guy that I will want it out of the portal at least
- 40:57for a brief time. And and now he's with the
- 40:59rebels. So yeah, interesting game
- 41:01tonight. Elliot Cliff hawkeyeinsider.com
- 41:04Elliot, the drive safe throughout your journey and we
- 41:07will talk to you next week. Thanks for jumping on Elliot.
- 41:09Appreciate it. Yep.
- 41:11Thanks guys. Good.
- 41:12To talk to you, hawkeyeinsider.com for Elliot
- 41:14Cleft as we talk Hawkeyes, our number 2, we'll head to Chicago
- 41:17with Kathy and then we'll Criss cross, go back to Nebraska,
- 41:20catch up with Simple Miller and Condon.
- 41:22An hour to go on our program. It's Des Moines Sports Station
- 41:26106.3 KX&O.