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Ep. 367: Goals, Hopes, and Hitlists for 2020 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three,
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  Speaker 1: sixties seven and today in the show for our annual
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  Speaker 1: get together on this topic, I am joined by Dan
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  Speaker 1: nine fingers Johnson to discuss our goals, hopes, and hit
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  Speaker 1: lists for the deer hunting season. All right, welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to the Wired Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X. Today,
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  Speaker 1: we are taking a break from the you know, interview
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  Speaker 1: and experts see what they think about stuff too, instead
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  Speaker 1: dive into what we think about stuff that we being
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  Speaker 1: myself and my compadre, Mr Daniel Johnson. Dan, glad you're here.
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  Speaker 1: I like how you said. We're going to take a
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  Speaker 1: break from people who know what they're talking about, and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna have Dan Johnson on the show, Dan Johnson
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  Speaker 1: and then other bozo and if we're gonna run our
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  Speaker 1: miles and see what happens. Right, how about yourself? I'm good,
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting excited. It's that uh, it's that time of year,
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  Speaker 1: you know, m hm uh speaking of it during that
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  Speaker 1: time of year. It's also that time of year that
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  Speaker 1: we do this episode that we're about to do. Every
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  Speaker 1: year we've been since I think twous fourteen, we've done
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  Speaker 1: this goals, hopes and hit lists conversation each year, and
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  Speaker 1: I like this because I need to go back and
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  Speaker 1: listen to those early ones. Can you imagine what we
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  Speaker 1: must have been talking about in two thousand and fourteen
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  Speaker 1: when we discussed our goals, hopes and hit listening. I
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  Speaker 1: would love to listen to the trajectory over the last
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  Speaker 1: seven years. Um. It would be an interesting time capsule
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  Speaker 1: to go back and examine how far we've come, hopefully, hopefully,
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  Speaker 1: how far we've come. It would be funny if we could,
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  Speaker 1: over that period of time listen to our voices mature,
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  Speaker 1: like going from teenage boys to men. Because I remember
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times in some of the first episodes,
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  Speaker 1: your voice would crack every once in a while. It
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  Speaker 1: was it was yeah, you know, it's hitting puberty there
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  Speaker 1: around round seven. Hey, it took you twenty seven years
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  Speaker 1: to grow? Uh or twenty how ared you now? Two? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Took you thirty three? Ship Okay, it took you damn
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  Speaker 1: your thirty years to get your goatee where it needed
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  Speaker 1: to be. I still don't even think it's quite Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest about it. I'm just trying to prop
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  Speaker 1: you out, but I do appreciate that I need that
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  Speaker 1: pat in the back every once in a while. Uh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I want to talk about. I want
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  Speaker 1: to catch up on any projects we've been doing here
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  Speaker 1: over the last month of the summer leading into the
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  Speaker 1: hunting season. Uh, and then go over you know what
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  Speaker 1: our hopes are for this year, our finalized plans for
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  Speaker 1: this year, any specific bucks that the two of us
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  Speaker 1: have on our radar. Um. I've got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: updates since we last talked. I'm sure you probably do too. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So we got a lot to cover, got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of talk about my first hunts in ten I leave
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  Speaker 1: in ten days. And what's that for the Idaho white
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  Speaker 1: tail hunt man? Yeah? Are you ready for it? I
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  Speaker 1: think so? Actually, I feel I feel very ready. Actually, um,
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  Speaker 1: my shooting has been really good. I'm feeling good about
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  Speaker 1: where I am from our troop perspective. Um. I just
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  Speaker 1: got some new arrows though. I decided to switch up
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  Speaker 1: the arrow thing and it got those a little while ago.
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  Speaker 1: And they're like heat seeking missiles. I went with a
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  Speaker 1: really small diameter and a heavy broadhead and uh insert
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  Speaker 1: on the front, so I've got a much higher foc
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  Speaker 1: so front of center, so I think it's front of center.
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  Speaker 1: Um and man, these things are just sinking. It's pretty
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty fun to see. So honestly, I don't know that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not good enough with numbers and and
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  Speaker 1: the little tiny details to figure all that stuff out myself.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got a guy that I trust who helps
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  Speaker 1: me make sure everything, make sure everything's right from my setup,
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  Speaker 1: and I leaned on him for that. But I switch
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  Speaker 1: to victory arrows. I got some victory that elites, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. But but yeah, the bow
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  Speaker 1: is ready to rock and roll. I got my gear,
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  Speaker 1: all my other gear, kind of final lines. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna take out there for that trip. I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: run the saddle and a new set of sticks, different
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  Speaker 1: set of sticks i've ever used. Um my platform. And
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you all about the scouting I did,
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  Speaker 1: but I scouted out some stuff out there. I feel
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  Speaker 1: good about Idaho. Now, last time we talked, I was
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  Speaker 1: not feeling good. Um, I'm feeling really good now. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, to answer your question, yes, I feel ready. Okay. Question,
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  Speaker 1: is this white tail hunt that you're going on in
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  Speaker 1: Idaho a like in the elevation actually like in the
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  Speaker 1: foothills of the mountains or is it your traditional out
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  Speaker 1: west you know, crop circles, river bottom type. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a little both. Actually I've got three different spots I've
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  Speaker 1: zeroed in on, and two of them are river bottom stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and one of them is like in the foothills. Um,
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  Speaker 1: So it's actually like in you know, you might saw
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  Speaker 1: the pictures I posted of a mountain lion and a
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  Speaker 1: bear on trail camera by one of these spots. That's
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  Speaker 1: the ones that like in the mountains. So there's there's everything.
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  Speaker 1: There's wolves, bears, lions, the whole nine yards cruising through
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  Speaker 1: that spot. Um, and actually some pretty decent bucks. So
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  Speaker 1: that is one location, and then there's two locations in
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  Speaker 1: the river bottom, and I just have the trail camera
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  Speaker 1: pictures as far as intel for the mountain spot the
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  Speaker 1: river bottom spot. I was able to glass some crop
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  Speaker 1: fields adjacent to the public one night and spotted several
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  Speaker 1: nice bucks. Um, probably a couple and like that one
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  Speaker 1: teams one twenties and then one that was definitely like
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  Speaker 1: the one thirties, like a definitely mature buck. And then
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  Speaker 1: I moved to another location and glass from a longer distance,
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  Speaker 1: and you couldn't see these deer as well, but could
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  Speaker 1: see like a huge frame deer. When I say huge,
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  Speaker 1: I mean like a definitely mature I don't know, one
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  Speaker 1: forty plus type buck um, and then several other more
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  Speaker 1: of those type of caliber kind of thing. So long
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  Speaker 1: stories or I mean anything like that would be awesome
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  Speaker 1: for a hunt along those lines public land up there
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  Speaker 1: first time. So I'm feeling good about numbers good similar
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  Speaker 1: to Montana. I feel like lower numbers than I've seen
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  Speaker 1: in those Montana spots. That definitely lower numbers um, but
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  Speaker 1: decent um for the river bottom stuf. At least the
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  Speaker 1: river bottom area seems to be like a little bit
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  Speaker 1: higher numbers the mountain white tail stuff. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: lower numbers UM, and it's gonna be much more difficult,
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  Speaker 1: I think, to patter on those deer because there's no
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  Speaker 1: crop fields, there's no you know, easy food source. It's
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  Speaker 1: like big timber. There's a big there's a creek, and
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  Speaker 1: like a canyon that runs through this chunk of of
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  Speaker 1: woods where I can hunt and or where I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: to hunt. I can hunt a whole lot of area,
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  Speaker 1: but where I found some white tails and they're they're
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  Speaker 1: moving through here for sure, but it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: situation where I don't know, they're just feeding on plants
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  Speaker 1: and random leaves and trees and things along the creek,
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  Speaker 1: and then some up on these ridges and these meadows.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's no lf A field the key in
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  Speaker 1: on Stresa Um, So that'll be different, but kind of cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's right, it's you know, it's relatively close to
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  Speaker 1: our place out there, so I can get out there
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  Speaker 1: and check it out quite a bit and excited to
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  Speaker 1: learn that spot. So that's that's what's going on, the
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  Speaker 1: Idaho spot. I mean, what as far as number of
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  Speaker 1: states that you've actually hunted white tails in? Now, what
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  Speaker 1: does Idaho make? Ah? It's a good question. Um, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I've hunted Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, UH, Minnesota, Uh, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: North Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Nebraska, Iowa. Uh. Uh. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm missing something here, Surrey, did you ever hunt Missouri. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think of Hunter, Missouri or did I remember?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think of Hunter Missouri. Um, I'm missing something here,
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  Speaker 1: But twelve twelve states, dude, somewhere good? Yeah? Um so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a pretty decent swath of Voitel Country. So yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to get out. There will be new adventure
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  Speaker 1: and I like those things. So absolutely. Now when is
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  Speaker 1: your first trip? I can't remember. I leave the let's
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  Speaker 1: see September twenty nine or thirtieth or something like that
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  Speaker 1: is when I leave my house to drive out to
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  Speaker 1: South Dakota to make it there for the October one opener.
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  Speaker 1: So hold on, that's different. That's different than when we
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  Speaker 1: last talk. So when do you do When do you
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  Speaker 1: push from Michigan to uh, Michigan is gonna be pushed
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  Speaker 1: back to like the seventeenth I think the third weekend
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  Speaker 1: in October. Okay, yeah, it's the It's the only way
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  Speaker 1: I could do it, man. Um. The guy that there
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  Speaker 1: could be a possible change. But the guy that I
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  Speaker 1: am gonna go with he lives in New York, and
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  Speaker 1: New York has some crazy strict rules about leaving the
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  Speaker 1: state and then coming back for it. So if he
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  Speaker 1: leaves and then comes back and gets checked, then he
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  Speaker 1: may have to quarantine for fourteen more days, using fourteen
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  Speaker 1: more days a p t O. And you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Like, no one wants to do that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's so we're we're gonna, you know, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: play it by ear. We're gonna see what happens, basically,
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  Speaker 1: shoot from the hip. If things change and I go
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  Speaker 1: to South Dakota by myself, I'll probably come to Michigan
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  Speaker 1: for the opener or like the third, fourth, and fifth
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, and then come back for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days and then go to South Dakota. So
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  Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's still up in the air. Really well,
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  Speaker 1: I've got that first week planning on being around for you,
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  Speaker 1: but I will be gone for Chunk in mid October,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll hopefully we'll be back by the seventeen or
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  Speaker 1: eighteenth or somewhere in that ballpark. Your wife's gonna be home.
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  Speaker 1: That came out, but it came out kind of right
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  Speaker 1: to wow. Man, Yes, make sure that if I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: trespass on your property, there's no one going to be
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  Speaker 1: at the house. You got cell cams too, right, I
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  Speaker 1: got cell cams. I've got people that are gonna be
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  Speaker 1: watching the house. People will watch all my hunting spots.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way that you're gonna be slipping in there
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  Speaker 1: and killing trans like one of your buddies if I
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  Speaker 1: just go. Yeah, Mark wanted me to come out here
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  Speaker 1: and check out the property for a couple of days. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Like I got it covered. They would they call you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have further on Dan patrol. But
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  Speaker 1: speaking of that, you know, we haven't actually talked about
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  Speaker 1: Trand on the Wired Hunt podcast yet. We talked about
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  Speaker 1: on your podcast a week or two ago, but probably
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  Speaker 1: people know from social media or listening to your show.
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  Speaker 1: But Tran, that buck that I was after all last year,
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  Speaker 1: he's back. He made it and I've seen him a
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  Speaker 1: bunch now. Um yeah, he the first week that I
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  Speaker 1: got back, first week of August that I got back
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  Speaker 1: from Idaho. Um, I was able to get out in Glass.
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  Speaker 1: They're a bunch and he showed up like four times
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  Speaker 1: over like an eight day period at night to feed.
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  Speaker 1: And then he disappeared for a while because I had
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  Speaker 1: to go back on that property and I had to
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  Speaker 1: do a bunch of food plot prep, and I hung
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  Speaker 1: trail cameras and just got all my stuff done. And
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  Speaker 1: then he disappeared for a while. But then he has
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  Speaker 1: showed up the last two nights, back in daylight, feeding
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  Speaker 1: out in this bean field. Um, so he's he's not
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  Speaker 1: you know, when we did that prediction, we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: predict what he would look like. Yeah, he's not quite that,
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  Speaker 1: but a little bit like when we were talking, I
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  Speaker 1: said that he had a little sticker off one of
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  Speaker 1: his bases last year, and I was guessing this year
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  Speaker 1: he would have two big ones. That was true. He's
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  Speaker 1: got he's got a sticker off each base and they're
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  Speaker 1: probably an inch to an inch and a half long.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe those are pretty cool. And then otherwise he's just
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  Speaker 1: like a big main frame eight pointer. Hard to tell
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  Speaker 1: exactly how long those times are, but they're long. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you saw the picture, just a big framed
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  Speaker 1: eight and uh, just a cool just a cool buck.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a it's game on, yeah man, And he's
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  Speaker 1: a main mainframe eight yeah eight, And then those sticker
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  Speaker 1: points the base base. Yeah, yeah, he's a beautiful, absolutely
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  Speaker 1: beautiful black man. Um. I like eight pointers so you
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  Speaker 1: should shoot him. I'm I'm gonna do my damnest. He's
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  Speaker 1: on your property every day. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about that, UM, but he's he's somewhere pretty close at least.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if if I look historically, he was always frequent,
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  Speaker 1: he was frequenting it, I believe that he lives. If
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  Speaker 1: I had a guess, like based off of my scouting,
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  Speaker 1: based off a trail camera data, based on the last
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  Speaker 1: two and a half years of observation, I think there
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  Speaker 1: are two potential zones, two to three potential zones that
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  Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident he's betting in. And one of
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  Speaker 1: them is that on neighbor's property, and one of them
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  Speaker 1: is on the property I hunt, um, and and it's
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  Speaker 1: close to the edge both of them, so I you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know where his home zone is for most of
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  Speaker 1: the time. I've got a lot of data work off
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  Speaker 1: of as far as past year history, UM, and now
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  Speaker 1: just a matter of making it happen. I made a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of not a bunch of I made some changes
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  Speaker 1: to the to the farm to specifically try to set
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  Speaker 1: myself up for a better chance to get a shot
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  Speaker 1: at him, UM, which I mean, we can just get
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  Speaker 1: into it. Guess since we're talking about it, um So,
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  Speaker 1: this is that same property you know where the Holy
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  Speaker 1: Field saga happened, where you know, I would see that
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  Speaker 1: deer all the time in some neighboring cover, but I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't hunt it. Um So, I have just like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of edge and farmland and then a couple of
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  Speaker 1: little grassy areas that I've been able to convert to
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  Speaker 1: food plots. So in the past, you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the big changes on this property was when I converted
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  Speaker 1: this old grassy field into a food plot system. Um
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  Speaker 1: That was probably seven years ago. I did that and
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  Speaker 1: that started getting some of these deer that hung out
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  Speaker 1: on the neighbors to come over to my side, and
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  Speaker 1: I started, you know, I've killed a few bucks in
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  Speaker 1: this food plot system. That's where I killed Frank, that
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  Speaker 1: really big one a few years ago. I killed about
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  Speaker 1: an Opening day out here. I've killed a lot of doughs.
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  Speaker 1: It has become like a really good spot that in
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  Speaker 1: the past didn't do anything for me. But I have
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  Speaker 1: found that while I have I had a few encounters
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  Speaker 1: and usually like opening day, the first couple of days
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  Speaker 1: this season, you'll get a big boy in there. Um.
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  Speaker 1: The big ones, the mature bucks, more often than not
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  Speaker 1: don't end up coming out there, um, or if they do,
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  Speaker 1: it's quick or it's not of range. And I was
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  Speaker 1: just trying to sit and think, you know, what can
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  Speaker 1: I do to just make this a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: enticing or a little bit better so that if a
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  Speaker 1: deer does come through here and I'm hunting it, I
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed to get that shot. UM. So I made two changes. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, this whole little system of food plots. It's
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  Speaker 1: only about a two acre area, so it's relatively small,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a circle on one side by this food
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  Speaker 1: plot screen of sorghum and Egyptian weight that I plan
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  Speaker 1: every year. So I've got that. But what I used
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  Speaker 1: to do was just kind of plant that whole area
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  Speaker 1: into food plots. UM. And now each year since I've
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  Speaker 1: started adding more and more cover on the inside to
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  Speaker 1: try to make its small, smaller openings so deer will
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  Speaker 1: feel more comfortable coming out there in daylight. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want them to have to feel like they're going from
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  Speaker 1: this really great thick, brushy cover into a wide open
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  Speaker 1: field and and not feel comfortable doing that. So I've
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  Speaker 1: continued to let more and more cover girl back in
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  Speaker 1: this chunk and then create kind of narrower, strategically designed
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  Speaker 1: food plots. So I went from this food plot, I
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  Speaker 1: could sit in my tree stand and it would be
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  Speaker 1: sixty yards to the edge of it, and I would
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  Speaker 1: see lots of bucks would walk that edge and they'd
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  Speaker 1: be out of range. I shifted the plot design this
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  Speaker 1: year too, make sure the farthest range from me would
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  Speaker 1: be forty yards away, So I moved that outside edge
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  Speaker 1: in closer, so if they come out into that area,
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  Speaker 1: they've got to be within range. I've added a couple
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  Speaker 1: of cover corridors, so basically I've broken up the food
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  Speaker 1: plot into almost a four leaf clover with big chunk
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  Speaker 1: of grass and brush that I've left in between each
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  Speaker 1: one of those leaves of the clover. So now instead
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  Speaker 1: of it seemed like a two acre field, it seems
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  Speaker 1: like four you know, quarters to third acre, little curvy
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  Speaker 1: winding openings. Um. So again, hoping this is like almost
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  Speaker 1: like a maze that deer come into and they feel
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  Speaker 1: they're never feeling like they're very far from cover. They
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  Speaker 1: can't see very far, so they need to move through
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  Speaker 1: it to look for other deer. Imagine a buck coming
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  Speaker 1: through here instead of you know, walking down wind or
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  Speaker 1: stepping into it and just looking at the whole field.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's got to move around. Um. So I did that.
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  Speaker 1: And the second thing I did was I took Steve
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  Speaker 1: Vartilla's advice he gave me a few weeks ago and
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  Speaker 1: added a bunch of licking branches into the food plus system.
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  Speaker 1: So in the past, I know you've heard me talk
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  Speaker 1: about these like fake scrape trees that I put. I'll
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: put one of these things right in the middle of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the food plot, and they used to do just one
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: per field. I put four in this one. So the
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: idea of being this is like a communication hub on steroids.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Now all kind of in a small area. So it's
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of sign a lot of you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: information being passed along here. So I'm just hoping between
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: all that it's it's more conducive to daylight movement. Hopefully
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a bunch of scraping activity. It's gonna
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: be great food. I planned these food plots oh ten
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: days ago or a week ago, and I just checked
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: in the germinating and coming up nice. Um, it's I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm hoping it's going to be a little
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: bit more. I mean it's always worked pretty well, but
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a little bit better. I'm
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: trying to get that one or two percent edge you
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: know that maybe gives me the shot at Tran or
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: at whoever. And it's a spot that I'm not gonna
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: hunt a ton. You know, it's gonna be like an
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: opening night hunt maybe you know an e name during
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the rut or late October when they're coming out to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: feed in the evenings. Um. But it's it's a spot
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that's pretty central, at least from a scouting perspective too,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: because I can glass this area from afar Um. This
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: is the place that if you remember last year, I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: didn't hunt Opening night because it was bad weather. So
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I thought I'll sit in the hill and watch it
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and then the next day when the cold front hits,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'll hunt it. And I watched it opening night and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: watched Tran walk right by my tree. Uh So so yeah,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to make that same mistake this year, hopefully. UM.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I got a question, Yeah, I know, was it this
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: spring or early this summer? The power line Company came
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: through and was doing some work in the area. Did
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that affect you or is that going to affect you
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: at all? So I wasn't sure how it would affect me.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: But they finished up in June. Um So it kept
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: me from like being able to do any maintenance work
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: on the plots because actually, like they were doing work
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: basically in my plot areas because I can use that
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: power line for for food plat stuff. Um, So I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: couldn't do any spring prep. I just came in late
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: this summer and they were gone by then, and they
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: had moved out there big. They especially laid a wooden
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: pallette road across the whole power line, and that kind
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of messed up the soil. Is huge ruts through the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: food plots and a bunch of weird kind of holes now,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But other than that, it hasn't impacted me at all.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Um And And honestly, by having that road there and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: then taking it out, they killed a bunch of stuff.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: And then when they removed that road, it allowed new
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: stuff to grow up. So a bunch of new plants
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: grew up where they used to be just grassed. Now
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of milkweed and different things. Like that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of cool. Um, so ended up not
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: being a big deal. Now, if they come in and
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: do more maintenance work in season, like cutting trees or something,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: then that will really throw off my whole game plan.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But um, as of now, fingers crossed, it's it's gonna
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: be okay, got you okay? Um? Yeah, so that's where
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: trans gonna be. Uh there's another pretty nice nine point
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing there. Um. I'm guessing he's probably just
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: three though, so I think he'll be a pass um.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: But if it gets closer hunting season and he just
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: looks like a tank and appears more mature than I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: think right now, then you know, if if train disappeared,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: maybe I'd take a crack at him. Ah. There was
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that last year in late November, a new buck showed up.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I was calling the brow list eight just like a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: big eight porn. His brows busted off. He was mature
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: last year. So if he shows up in season again,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: he'd be a buck on that farm might be after two.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So if we're talking hit list, I guess on that farm,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Tran is number one. I have everything, and then that
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: browless eight would be number two. If he comes back. Um,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and then I don't know about that nine pointer. Um,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: A bunch of good young bucks too that I've been
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: seeing that hopefully we'll stick around for future years. So
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: stuff looks uff, stuff looks pretty good there. We'll see
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: how it goes. Um, what does your gut tell you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: about tray? And you think you're gonna have an encounter
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: with him where you're gonna be able to shoot him?
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, I think, Um, you know, unless
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: he gets killed by someone else, if that's the big
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: trump card, I don't know. But if someone else doesn't
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: kill him, I feel very good about my chances. I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: know the buck, I know where he's at. I'm I've
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you know, fine tuned a lot of stuff and move
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: sets and prep trees for saddle hunts deeper and deeper
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: into the cover. Um where I think, you know, I'll
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: get I'll get my potential opportunities. You never know. But um,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: he's he's a homebody, he'll be around. So historically I'm
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: talking not about train but in dear movement in general.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Has the dear movement on the farm that you hunt
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: stayed the same or has it changed over the years? Um, well,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think that in general, there are some basic trends
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that have stayed pretty consistent. UM. Although like one thing
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: would be, you know, when I added that food plus system,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that added a whole new area that deer started using
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a ton Like that's now like one of the main
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: hotspots on the farm that in the past never was,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So that is a change. UM. Otherwise, it's it's a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: pretty simple There's there's lots of good betting on some
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: neighboring properties, a little bit on mine, and then all
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the crop fields are kind of on mine, and so
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you've got deer moving off of the neighbor's betting coming
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: out to these fields where I can hunt, and I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: can hunt around the edges, and and that's always the same. UM.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I've just have changed how I hunt a lot. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: used to hunt just the edges. Now I hunt some
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: of the edges still on occasion, but I've been every
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: year I've kind of pushed further and further back UM,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to continue to do that, and I
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: think be more aggressive this year than ever. So, so
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I see different movement because of that. UM. As far
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: as like deer activity, there's always like a lot of
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: great activity early in the season, um, and then you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I hunt a few times early in the year. Usually
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: mature buck sightings dropt down again through mid October, at
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: least out in the spots that I can see easily.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're doing stuff back on the cover. Um.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: But then historically, right around that last week of October,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: it just seems like there's always a dough that comes
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: in early or something gets them going, and it just
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: seems like this farm is a little bit better earlier
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: than other places. So I like to make sure I'm
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: hunting there that last week of October um, because that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: just seems to be when it when it gets exciting.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So it goes through November, and then gun season hits
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and everything shuts down, and then usually late season picks
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: up again once the pressure settles down a little bit.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: So that's the typical pattern I see. You know, sometimes
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: your gut can tell you a lot man and uh,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I think you I mean, you've been hunting this farm
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: for how many years now? Oh um, this might be
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: my tenth year, nine years, ten years, something like that,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: So you got it. I mean, for the most part,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I would say, you've gotta figure it out. I know
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the basics at least now it's just like trying to
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: figure out what each individual buck does, but I definitely
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: know the basics. Um, But it's it's it's I like
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: to bounce around a lot of different states, and I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: like that new adventure. But for some reason, this place
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: continues to be a fun challenge because I'm I'm still
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: finding ways to tweak or I'm still doing different things
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm still trying new things. It's it's remained interesting
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: for me, which is which has been cool. And I
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: think a big part of that has been I've been
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: lucky to have bucks make it year after years, so
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I get to, you know, learn a specific buck and
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and that just as you know, gets me excited. Yeah.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: And let's see, I'm thinking about the main farm that
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I hunt. This will be season. I've hunted it and
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I've gotten somewhat of it figured out, but it just
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: becomes just like any farm. Really, you can have it
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: figured out, but it's a matter of that deer has
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to walk by your stand while you're in it all
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: at one time. Yeah. Always easier said than done, right, absolutely,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: So So let's talk about that farm then a little bit.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: What's uh, anything new that you've scouted out there, figure
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: it out, or basically going in with your mobile hunting
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: strategy as usual and uh just gonna pick it up
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: once the season starts. Yeah, I mean that's typically what
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I do anyway. Um Man, as far as prepping for
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the season, I just feel I'm way behind. I've only
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: checked trail cameras one time this entire summer so far.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to sneak out today and maybe take
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: my boy with me and go do it. I got
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a wedding down there anyway, so I'm gonna try to,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, try to get out and maybe at
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: least check them. But the shift, you know, the the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: trail camera shift that we always talk about, I don't
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be able to get to it until
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: closer to October now, just because of the schedule. Um
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: with work and that storm that came through eastern Iowa,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: we're just way behind. I'm I'm just way behind on work.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: So it's hard to say, Okay, I'm gonna go out
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and check trail cameras or I'm gonna spend a day
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to go do this when I know I got a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: ship tonnel work to do at home and and catch,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you know, catch everything up. But other than that, man,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it's just I'm behind shooting my bow, I'm behind with work,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I'm behind, you know, I'm just I don't know that's that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Those are all excuses, by the way, which nobody wants
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to hear excuses, But that's a fact. I'm just I'm
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a little behind. But as far as that farm is concerned,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get some trail camera out in
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: some in some places to start catching. But the good
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: thing is is I know where the good funnels are,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I know where the pinch points are, I know where
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the the deer movement is for the most part, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: knowing that allows me to almost it allows me to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: be unprepared from what I'm normally doing because the way
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I hunt, I could just get caught up real quick. Right,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: throw some trail cameras out on a couple of days,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: go check those trail cameras. Come late October early November,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: when I make the decision to start hunting, and then
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: just start that that rotation, right, find the deer on
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: trail camera, move in and make those minor adjustments until
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: you connect with one. Did you get to listen to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that whole conversation here with Andre the other day. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I did, and I get well, not the whole. I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: don't know if I listened to the last fifteen minutes
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of it, but I tried. So I'm curious, based off
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of the stuff he was talking about, do you see
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: any of his you know, he's got kind of a
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: similar approach to you, except for instead of trail cameras,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you know, he's using just sign he sees in the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: ground and moving based off that. Do you foresee adjusting
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: anything basiness on the things he was saying, Is that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: anything that might influence what you do there? There's one
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: thing that he said that I kind of like, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: that is you'll never spook a deer out of his
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: core area. He'll he'll run away and then he'll come back,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: or he'll go hide somewhere, or he'll back Doria, or
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: maybe just you know, go not turnal for a couple
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of days. But he's not going to just leave and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: go five miles down the road, right, So that is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: something that I've always kind of thought anyway, But I
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: think I'm it's it's hard to be more aggressive than
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: what I already am, other than with time of year, right,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I mean go into the betting area October or something
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: like that, right, which I won't be just because of
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: time constraints. But if I could, maybe I just start
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: hunting and making those more aggressive moves earlier in the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: season to try to try to find where they're at.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And for me, it's hard because in certain states. And
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: this is I hope I don't come off arrogant when
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I say this, but when you have five deer that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: are four or older on your property, you don't know
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: which one of those deers making that sign, right, You
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: can you can try to, you can guess or whatever,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: but the only real way is with trail cameras and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: with like in person encounters. Right. So yeah, it's uh,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: it's And what I what I found is I guess
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: you want to say, is my bread and butter is
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to go in and just start the rotation. Just get
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in the timber, go to those historically good places first,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and then start crossing parts off the farm. Now here's
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: what I will tell you. If Gnarlie Charlie shows up,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I get a cut off half the farm because historically
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: he doesn't go through. He went through the main pinch
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: point one time. Last year and that was it. But
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: other than that, I get a chop that farm in
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: half and and just focus on more so how big
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: would that chunk be there? The focus area would be
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: like fos So, I mean it's still a lot to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: think about. Yeah, that's a lot to process. I mean
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I can spend my whole year drumming my brain trying
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to figure out how to hunt eighty acres uh let alone.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But you have to remember, not every not every acre
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: in that four acres is really good for tree stands.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I mean it's some of it's wide open timber. Some
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: of it is like the bottoms, you know, the crick bottom.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Some of it is wide open egg field. So you
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: take you take your knowledge of the past years and
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: minds being thirteen years, and you're able to see where
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the deer moving, what ridges they prefer, and you just
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: use that information to put yourself in the best possible position.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: So gnarally, Charlie's your number one buck for sure, right
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: if if he's there, If he's there, um, hopefully this
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: weekend I get to come out and check some more
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: trail cameras and confirm it. But yeah, I mean, if
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: he's back, he's number one. But there's also a mammoth
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: eight pointer out there. Who Now, I think I told
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you this in a previous episode that the first card
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: poll I have other than like this one class ten,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: which is absolutely great deer, and if he come by,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'd probably shoot him. But there are three other deer
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that made them uh, so a total of five deer
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I would say that have made themselves known last year.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: And if last year is the same as this year
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and all these deer showback up, uh, it could be
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: a really good year as far as putting the the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: pieces of the puzzle together using the data that I
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: collected last year. So, um, I gotta let's just assume
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: they made it. Yeah, what what would what would be
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: the other deer um that you'd be looking at? So
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: not if Narali Tcharler is back he's number one, what
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: would be the next buck you'd be the most excited about. Yeah?
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: So there's this ten pointer and he's a hilarious act
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: drawing of a ten pointer. And I don't mean like
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: he's not a tw ten pointer, but he is that
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy typical ten beautiful Iowa white tail, and
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: he'll probably a five year old this year, and he
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: was one seventy last year. He was probably about one
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: sixty two or three year a little one sixties as
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a ten this year, you know, just if if he
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: does make it, another one is an absolutely giant eight pointer,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: well passed his years. He's just this cage, another perfect
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: frame with a split G two on one side. Um,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: he's one of them that was running around last year.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And then what was the other one, uh, probably another
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: one sixty class nine pointer that had a big series
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: ten total points, but he was the main frame nine
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: with a split G two on the on the four
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: point side, so he's running around. And then there was
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: another so that's four. And then there was another ten
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: pointer really tight, probably just out to his ears, but
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: really tall. And he was a three year old last
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: year at a probably one fifty class one one maybe,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: but you know, at another year, he'll be a four
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: year old this year. If he makes it, then that
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: would be awesome. And then you have your other deer
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that are mature but not necessarily a you know, anything
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to brag about in the antler category. Yeah, man, well
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you've got some options hopefully, yeah, And you know, I
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: hope that doesn't come off ar again, It's just I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: live where I live. He can't falter for that. Um. Now,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: here's here's a question. And I know we've we've talked
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: about this in the past a little bit, but I'm
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: just curious to see where it stands right now. Let's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: say Gnarly shows up on camera this summer, but to
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: get out there and start hunting, he's you know, showing
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: up on camera here and there, But one of these
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: other bucks show in shooting range. Is this the year
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: that you're going to pass on some of these shooters
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: because you really want to get Gnarly or what. Yeah,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. I'm not gonna pass on
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: a one seventy class tin pointer for Narlie Charlie. I'm not.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. If any one of those
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: hit list deer show up, I'm gonna go after. I'm
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: gonna attempt the shot, right Um. But one one thing
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I won't do is if Gnarly Sharp Narlie Charlie is
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: active on the farm for some reason, I will be
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: putting myself into position to hunt him, not these other deers.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: So my decision making is going to be for him,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: not anything else. The good part about this area is
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that these deer, these five deer from last year, all
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: run the same circuit, right. I don't think they all
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: live in the same core area, but I think their
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: core area overlap in that on that farm. So certain
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: parts of the rough vacation, certain parts of them come
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: in and they come out. You know, they're checking them
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: for those and whatnot. And you know, if there's a
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: good chance that if I put myself in the right position,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to have an encounter with
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: one of those one of those five deer man that's uh,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: or any bonus bucks that come through, which would you
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: never know around there. The buck eye shot last year
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: was a bonus buck. So yeah, that's exciting. And the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: hunting season, so you'll be gone early season, you'll be
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: gone mid season. So when are you gonna start hunting
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the Mainiowa farm Then yeah, probably not. Um I'd love
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to get out there and check some cameras. I'm gonna
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: be putting some cell cams out just to see the
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: deer movement pick up, But other than that, I doubt
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I'm able to hunt that farm until after November three
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: or something like that. So I'm gonna vote on November three,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I think it is, and then I'm heading down to
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the farm. So man, you know what I remember back
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: in the day, you would there have been some other
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: year where you said you weren't gonna be a hunt
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: in October at all. You weren't gonna be a hunt
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: until November, and I was pissed at you. Um, but
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not so man now, because you are hunting your
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: hunt all over the place, just not there in Iowa.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So it's nice to see how life has changed for
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: it and that way at least. Yeah, man, trust me,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: if if things were different, like I can I'm leaving
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the state to go to Michigan. If I told my
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: wife I was going to go down to the farm
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: an hour south to me for four days straight, she
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: would not have that. But because for some reason, because
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: this is a planned excursion, that that she's okay with it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: So whatever. So you know, I'm gonna be gone for
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: e or nine days on this mule your hunt, and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: then I gotta come back. I gotta work, I gotta
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: play daddy. Daycare school is going to be starting up
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: with just some crazy as schedule like three days on
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: for two weeks and then three days off. So it's
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: gonna go three three two two three three two two
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: until they decided to go back full time or do
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: this remote thing whatever that is. So that has to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I have to play that into the cards. There's the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: potential that my season just gets totally left if if
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: classes don't resume full time, because that means someone's gonna
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: have to watch the kids, my wife is going to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get a daycare provider, my wife's
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: gonna have to work from home, like all these things.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: That's gonna really cripple the season. To be honest with you,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and how likely you think that is kind of thing.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not I'm not one for politics, but
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I live in one of the most liberal counties in
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the state of Iowa, which when they make decisions, they
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: tend to make them more towards the liberal right. If
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: we were gonna say this is just you know, hypothetical
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: or you know, stereotypes, let's just go by stereotypes. Republicans
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: they want school to go back in session, you know,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: full time, no restrictions. Democrats they want the schools to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: be closed and go remote right or some kind of
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: hybred model. Well, the counties that I live near, the
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: two main ones high they're the highest populated counties in Iowa.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: There they always vote liberal or Democratic in every election.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: So every decision that they've made thus far has scared
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: heared me into, you know, like hunting season maybe close
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: to home or just way more trips, way more one
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: or two day trips down and then come back. So yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, hopefully it works that okay for you,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and I hope so too. But either way, I'm equally
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: as excited for the upcoming season. Um, you know all
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: of I think we talked about it like three years ago,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: four years ago, they did all that logging on the property,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and it is beautiful now in there. I mean it
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: is thick, it is nasty. It is what you want
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: for deer cover on your farm. I remember how stress
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you were when was happening, and I was like, man,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: just wait, just wait. I'm glad. I'm glad. Um, I
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: gotta see a picture of that. I'd like to see
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: what it looks like. Yeah, well, just stand in front
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: of a bush and take a picture. I mean, I'm
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: not I'm not joking. They're like it is six ft high,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: just straight wall of patches where they took the wherever
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: they took one of these big mature trees down that
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: area where it's canopy was is a wall of smaller
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: trees bushes. You know. Uh, Woody browsed and it literally
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: holds deer and it's awesome. No, speaking of what you're
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: just saying a second ago, the Michigan trip, your travels,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Let's let's circle back on that a little bit. Um,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: we talked this spring about your game plan. Has ever
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: anything changed in your mind if you've done any more
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: eat scouting or anything like that since we talked last
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: time about it? Um, Where where's your head ad on
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: all that? Yeah? Man? Uh? Along with the east scouting,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you know some people giving me tips on where I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: should hunt. Uh, you know some near you, some about
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: forty five minutes north of you. Even had one guy
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: come up and he's like, dude, you need to come
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: to northern Michigan one of these antler restriction counties. I'm
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: telling you it would be it would be worth your
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: trip up there. So I've gotten a lot of Um,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I've gotten a lot of advice from people, everything from
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: you're wasting your time, You'll never see a deer to
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you know, to don't sleep on Michigan. If you do
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: everything right, you'll get a crack at it, like a
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: one pointer or something like that. So, um, you know,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm just excited to do I was talking to
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: my buddy Bob Polanic, and I was like, I'm just
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: excited to do something different. This would be the first
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: ever trip that well, other than the combination mule deer
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: white tail hunt I did in Nebraska, this will be
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: the first white tail focused trip I've ever taken out
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: of state. So I'm just excited to do something different,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Excited to see new terrain. Excited too, you know. You know,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, just sided for everything. And uh as
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: far as what I'm looking for in a buck, you know,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I used to give me ship for that comment. You know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: if it makes me go, uh, you know, I'm gonna
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: shoot it. Well, this is gonna be probably you know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's gonna be a one percent mood
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: focus decision, Like what's my mood that day? Does that? Well,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: here's a here's a four corn. I'm gonna be able
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: to take meat home? Why not? You know what I mean?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: That's a the Michigan pointer right there, go for it, man. Yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you know like you're saying, and I know we talked
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: about this before, but you definitely could get into them
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and you could see some nice bucks. You know, I
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked if you could shoot a hundred.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: At the same time, it wouldn't be shocked if you
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: just saw year and a half olds and does and
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: not a single good buck. You know it could be.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: And there are big bucks too, I mean you certainly
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: are so you never know, you could shoot a slammer, um,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: but it will be interesting to see, you know, Bob
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and I we go from Michigan and hunt Iowa. Here
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to go from Iowa and hunt Michigan. I've never I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: don't know a single person who has ever gone the
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: reverse order. Here the first person I know who lives
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: in Iowa that travels out of stage on Michigan. And
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I can take a little credit for that,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: pre precious. I'll tell you this as as just a
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: fan of bow hunting in general. Right that time of year,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Let's just say I strike out on that first trip,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: first three day hunt, and for some reason, I'm lucky
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and I tag out early in Iowa. There's nothing stopping
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: me from getting back in my truck and going back
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: to Michigan and potentially hunting some of the rut up there. Yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: do it. I mean, I'll tell you what, whatever size
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: buck you kill, if you kill a buck here in Michigan,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: that one's gonna be pretty sweet. You're gonna feel really
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: good about it. I tell you, I don't care what
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I shoot. You know, if I shoot a buck in Michigan,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it euro mounted and I'm gonna put it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I don't care what size it is. I'm gonna get
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: it euro mounted. I'm gonna put it in my office.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. I'm excited. I'm excited
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: for that one. So, no specific goal except for where
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: you want to kill. You want to fill a tag
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: of you know something. It's new experience and if I can,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: if I can leave with a full full cooler, man,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: that's a win. If you ask me, yeah, i'd i'd
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: have to agree. Well, good, I'm looking forward to that one. UM.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: No restrictions as of right now, right yeah, yeah, no restrictions. UM,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: over the counter tag, I can just show up and
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: buy buy yep, yep, by your kid when you get here.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Gas stations, grocery stores, all that stuff. Um, yep, there's yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: pretty much most not all grocery stores, but your Walmart's,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: certain gas stations will we'll get you figured out there.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: The only thing that you have to be aware of
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and will cover it once you get here, just be
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the c w D restrictions, Like what you can transport
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: across county lines. You know, if you want to bring
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: it home, you'd have to have the skull completely skinned
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and cleaned out. You could bring like the antlers and
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: skull played back and boned out meat, but you you're
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: not supposed to take that stuff across county lines throughout
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the state. Maybe I'll just find a taxi or must
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: there to do my if I if I shoot a buck, hey,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: just do it there and then, you know, give me
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: another excuse to come up to Michigan. Yep, I got you.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I got good recommendations for all that stuff so perfect.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I love it. Um. I was talking a little about
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the back forty. Talk about the back forty a little bit.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I got a question about the back forty. So you
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: guys have done all this really high folks, you know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you've really focused on the habitat there over the last
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: couple or over this last year. Has it since because
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I think the last time that we talked, you mentioned
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that it really hasn't brought more deer into the farm
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: quite yet. But now that we've had a growing season
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: under our belt, I'm curious if if it's holding more
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: deer as of right now. Yeah, and I think the
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: answer is yes, I think definitely. Um, I saw two
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: things this winter. So after the first hunting season, after
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: we stopped hunting and left it alone, there was a
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: lot of deer in there, and a lot of deer
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: sign When I was scouting in March, I mean, there
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: was a lot of deer in there. So they're definitely
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: in there at that part of the year. Um, since
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I've been back in the summer, there seems to be
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: a decent number of deer. I'm getting deer on trail camera.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I bumped a pretty decent buck the other day when
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I went in there and do some work. Uh, like
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a nice five point side on his right side and
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: like a weird funky fork dagger thing on his left. Um.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: So right now, we haven't been able to make all
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the changes I wanted to because the whole COVID thing
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: this spring completely shut down our spring plans, um like,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: just changed a lot of the stuff we want to do.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: So I got a little bit done the spring, and
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna try to do more over the next
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: ten days. We're doing some more stuff, but it's definitely
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: not the ideal. I still think though there's gonna be
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: some noticeable progress because of three big things. UM. This spring,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I wanted to address these old fields. So as you know,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of the property just like old farm field
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: that was growing up just from whatever was out there,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and it had been mostly almost all this weed called
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Mayor's Tale, and it's this invasive weed that has very
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: has no food value to deer, has very little cover.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Um the leaves dropped early, then you're just left kind
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: of bean stocks. So like once the leaves came down
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: in October, it was basically a like a bean field, um,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: you know, with no beans, and a lot of the
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: deer didn't want to travel across that. Deer weren't betting
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: in that deer weren't feeding in that. UM. I wanted
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: to try to change that. So this spring, my plan
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: was to plant switch grass across a lot of these areas.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: So I frost seeded switch grass, which basically means I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: just excuse me, I broadcast switch grass seed over the
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: ground um early in the spring when I was still
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: freezing and thawing, freezing and thawing, and then it just
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: takes in the seed. And then I sprayed this pre
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: emergent herbicide that would kill the mayor's tail and that stuff,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and you know, reduce the competition for the switch grass
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: to come back in. So I did that, and then
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I also planted a variety of little lines and coves
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and visual barriers of that switch grass sorghum stuff that
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I talked about earlier. I did that across different places
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: on the across the farm to create just more structure
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: out there in these fields. Um. And when I came
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: back from Idaho and went to go check it out
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: just recently, what I saw was a couple of things.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Number One, those screening areas came in mostly very good.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I tried it last year, they pretty much didn't come
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: in it all last year. This year they came in
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: pretty damn good. So we've got a lot of these
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: kind of like corn patches scattered throughout our walls of
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: corn scattered throughout. It's not corn, but it looks like
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: a So right there, it went from these like being
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: ten acre open fields and now not feeling like ten
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: acre open fields. Just with that. Secondly, by spring this spring,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I essentially eliminated almost all the Mayor's Tale and what
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: replaced it was some of that switch grass. But switch
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: grass is notoriously slow to grow, and I've I've remember
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: talked to it seems to be like you'll get some
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the first year, but you'll get a lot more of
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the second. So there's some switch grass in there, but
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: it's definitely not full of it. Um. But a bunch
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: of other stuff came in once the Mayor's tele competition
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: wasn't there. You know, I've got a bunch of different
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: kinds of grasses. I've got a bunch of different forbes,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: a bunch of golden uh, golden rod, a bunch of
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: shrubby stuff. I mean, it's just diverse, all sorts of
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: different plant types out here, lots of tall, thick cover
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: in all these fields now where last year that wasn't
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the case. So the fields are a lot better. So
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I think that that almost doubles the amount of cover
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: we have on the farm compared to what it was
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: last year. And then last I am about quadrupling the
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: amount of food that we're planting. So last year I
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: probably got just over an acre of food plots in
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: and they didn't even come in that well, this year,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I'm closer to almost four acres of food plots that
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm planning. Um, just because I did not see the
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: deer activity. That deer we're not hitting our food plots higher,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: They're moving off to these bigger food sources on neighboring properties.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: So so this year, I've, like I said, significantly increasing
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: at I've got a better understanding of how to plant
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: with an no tell drill. I'm planning another one of
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: these blends, but I feel good about this one. Um.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: So if all this pans out, I'm gonna have four
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: times the amount of food out there, two times the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: amount of cover out there, and these strategic you know,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: walls of corn looking stuff making it even more broken up.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: And then finally next week we're gonna come in and
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: plant I don't know, maybe forty fifty trees across the
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: farm in these old fields We're to create various like
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: little pockets of tree. So like a cluster of five
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: on this little knob, a cluster of four over here
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: in this corner, cluster four or five over here, and
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: create all these little pockets of evergreen cover two. So
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: you take all that, and I think you've got a
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: really diverse farm with a lot of cool stuff going
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: on with food and in in good places that can
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: be hunted that will hold there on the property, but
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: lots of covers scattered throughout. Um. And still that there's
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: that swam but naturally is right there in the middle too. Um.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: And then then the last big thing we did is
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: that we did a prescribed fire across this big ridge
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: system we have that has some native prairie. I removed
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: a bunch of like this invasive tree essentially called buckthorne,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: and then another bush called automotive, removed a lot of that,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: and then we came in and burned this prairie area
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: on the ridge. And now it's come in just flush
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: full of stuff. So you've got like a three acre
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: ridge that has got like I don't know, nine ft
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: tall prairie grass in there and cedar trees. And and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: then that's right next to a swamp which is next
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: to these overgrown fields with four acres of food plots
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: tucked inside of all that. I mean, I don't know.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a white tail and wildlife mecha to me. Yeah. Man, well,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is now are there any deer from last year? If
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you already checked cameras on that far? So I've only checked.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I've got one cell camera that I've been getting pictures on,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: but all the rest I have not checked. Um, but yes,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: you're wondering about bucks. Yeah, so there is a big
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: ten pointer that I was getting pictures of all the
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: way to the end. Not big, but there was a
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: three year old ten point that was still showing up
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: on camera to the end of last season. He was
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: like a nice salad kind of tight and tall ten
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: pointer last year, and I haven't heard of anyone killing
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that deer. He was showing up pretty much almost to
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: the very end of the season. I think I got pictures,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: so I feel good that he probably made it, and
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: he did. He'll be he'll be a really nice buck.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: So I'm really hoping that buck shows up. Um, there's
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: that funky buck that I just mentioned to you that
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I bummed the other day. I you know, I couldn't
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: see his body size, so I don't know if he's
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: like a huge body mature buck, he's you know, he'd
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: be a shooter. I couldn't tell for sure just by
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: watching him run away. Um, there is this big uh
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: fork buck that we were getting a bunch of pictures
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: through most of last year. Like he was like tall,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: imagine like a I don't even know how to like
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: what he looks like, almost like a mule deer with
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: like a fork dantler mule, like a four point what
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: they would call two point mule deer almost except for
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: the forks were farther out on the beams, not like
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: super deep on the beams. Just a big four pointer
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: last year. Um, if he is back this year, he
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: would be a really cool deer. And I think he
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: might be um. And there was like a nice six
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: pointer that showed up on trail camera on the cell
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: cam the other day that I don't think would be
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: a shooter for me, but he'd be a shooter buck
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: for um my dad, who's gonna come and hunt again?
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I brought him out there to hunt last November for
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of days and it didn't work out. But
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have him back to hunt for like five
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: days right around that time period of early October when
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: you were gonna be here. He's gonna coming on the
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: fifth and hunt for four or five days during that period.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm really hoping to get him a crack at
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: something so that that bucker, you know, any nice like
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: two year old, would be like the biggest buck he's
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: ever shot, So that would be that would be super cool. Um,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: you know, everything else that I know of last year,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: there's like this really big eight porter I saw not
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: that I saw got pictures of last year. I heard
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: from a neighbor that someone shot him and never found him,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: so he might be dead. Um the funky sided that
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: there's like a funky nine. Someone sent me a picture
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: of him getting shot by someone. And then I killed
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the wide eight. So basically everything we got pictures of
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: last year was was knocked was knocked off through hunting season.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: So so yeah, I don't know. I will hopefully know
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: in another week or two when I do check up,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: but I'm much more hopeful this year. I really think
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: if if we get rained and the food plots coming okay, um,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I think we're we've got We've got some cool stuff
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: in there that that should make it should make it promising.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: So it's another one situations like it was last year,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit where it's not me. It's not just
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: me hunting it. So I'm you know, I'm not gonna
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: bull hunting it quite the way I would normally do it.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: You know, that first time we go in there will
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: be mostly just trying to get my dad a buck
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: for that first hunt, and then I don't think I'll
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: be going back to hunt it again until we start
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: filming in the second week of November, and at that
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: point a couple other people are gonna be joining me
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: out there, and we'd be trying to get them a deer.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's it's a little bit less
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: about me killing a deer out there and more about
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: sharing with other people and learning some stuff and seeing
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: how the property grows and changes. And so I think
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: my goals up there for the back forty would just
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: be for it to be a much better experience for people.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Last year, and we went out there and hunted, it
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: was a lot of slow hunts. You know, we killed
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: one guest hunter killed a doe, and I did kill
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: buck but it was like that was like the one
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: flash of greatness that one day. Um, I would love
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: it if this is a place where, like, if you
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: go out there, you better have your seatbelt on because
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be an exciting hunt. I'm hoping it'd be nice. Man.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: That's my goal for the back four this year is like,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: give me an exciting, fun place for people to hunt,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: um and shoot. If there's a nice but sure buck
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: out there, that's a bonus. Yeah, yeah, man, that's awesome.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: One one thing I thought of real quick that has
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: even has me even more excited about the farm that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I hunt is crop rotation here. Um the farmer, like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the farmer doesn't take the corn out of this forty
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: acre field until mid November. And it's awesome because it
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: creates this wall between a road in the timber that
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: is just this travel corridor for that I've that I've
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: kind of figured out. They come upper ridge, they cut
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: this ridge. It's where I it's where I shot my
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: buck in two thousand eighteen, that big nine. So I'm
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: excited to get back and I'll start hunting that particular
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: piece of the farm just because of the crop rotation.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Now the crop rotation on the farm near your home.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Is that a does it matter as far as crop
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: rotation or do you see like if it's a corn
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: ear there's more deer, or it's being here it's more
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: more dear. Yeah, you know what, I have not seen
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: it really influence things every single year regardless there's there's something. UM.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: What is nice though, is that UM I like it
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: when whatever is on that farm is different than the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: neighboring farm. And that's what we have this year. So
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I've got a neighbor with standing corn, but on our
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: farm it's just beans. UM, So at least there's a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: little bit of both right there, and and it is
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: kind of nice. Like in that front section where that
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: front food plat system is, Um, what you have is
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: basically my two acre. Like there's a finger of timber
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: that comes out, and then there's this food plat system
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: tucked into the inside corner of that finger of timber.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: And so I've got this two acres of food mixed
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: with cover and brush and all this stuff, my four
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: leaf clover food plus system. And then right across the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: creek from that is a sliver of beans. But it
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: really is only like I don't know, a hundred yards wide,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: and then it hits a standing corn field on the neighbors.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: So there's a bunch of stuff in small proportions, all
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: stacked in this little corner, and that's right next to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: this primo bedding area. UM. So these deer are coming
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: in and out and they can feed in the open
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: bean field, but it still feels pretty secluded because that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: standing corns right next to it, and then my wall
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: of sorghum in uh Egyptian wheat is just on the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: other side, and then this thick brush on the bedding
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: airs right next to that. Um. So there's been like
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: a ton of activity in there this summer that I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: think is because things just worked out nicely to have
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: standing corps next to this and my standing stuff on
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: one side. Um, it feels it's not as wide open
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: as it is some years, which I think is going
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: to be a good thing. Yeah, So we shall see, Um,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: we shall see. Yep. So you know, I think I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier. You know, I I typically have a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: ton of mature deer on the farm this time of
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: year or whenever I check my trail cameras by now,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: and I haven't checked him since ship for early July,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: and I was a little disappointed. I had the one
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: good deer that was on camera. That was it. But
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: this is one of those years where I call it
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: a being year on the farm, and I think what
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping is that it redeems itself, like the farm
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: kind of redeems itself, and once the um the beans
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: became palatable, more dear kind of come and show themselves
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: on the farm and work their way in into it.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that that will make a big difference.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: And uh, tomorrow or whenever I go and check my cameras,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: I will have more intel and uh more information and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: hopefully the big dogs show up. Man, if the big
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: dog shows up, I might need to get you back
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: on the horn and talk to you for five minutes
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: to think about it, right right, I know, because I'm
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: excited to see um. So this year is hopefully going
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: to be the year of Gnarly Charlie for you. In November, well,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: October is going to be the year of travels for
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: you with South Dakota and the Michigan Adventure. And for
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: me it's gonna be Tran year three and hoping to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: see the back forty bloom into something special this year. Um,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: other than killing you know, one of your big mature
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: box in Iowa and having a great experience in Michigan
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: and filling a filling a cooler. Um. And I'm sure, well, yeah,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I guess do you speak to this too? Do you
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: have any other main goals this season? Probably something with
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: your South Dakota hunt, of course, but anything, anything, they're
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: worth noting. I'm just excited. Man. The older I get,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I get a different vibe off bow hunting, and it's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: more of this weird connection than it is to let's
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: go slay some giants, you know, like the old Dan
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Johnson and this, Like like I'm gonna turn forty in November,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: so I'm really just going out right. I'm really just
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: going to enjoy myself. Man, This this hunt that I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: do in South Dakota is awesome. Yeah. I mean it
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: is one of those hunts where your backpack in, you're
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: doing the whole back country thing. You you get up
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: on a knob, you glass and there's no human structures, Like,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: you don't see farms, you don't see antenna's. You you
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: gotta look real hard for him, but it's just you're
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, and there's something about that.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I made a Facebook or Instagram post the other day
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: where I don't know what I like more the actual
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: hunt of the hunting season or the fact of this isolation,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: being able to isolate yourself and just be alone in nature.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, man, I'm starting to love that
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: equally to the chess game with some of these animals.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: So it's just I just look forward to this stuff
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: every single year, and the passion really hasn't died down.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: It's just changed and and I am I'm just so
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: geeked for, you know, that that drive, that anticipation. I mean,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: the other or yesterday, I cleaned my water bladders out,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I got my uh you know, I got my food organized.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I got my backpacks organized, some of my gear organized
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: for the muleeer trip. You know. I I put a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: new site on my bow. I got confirmation that my
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: new arrows are coming in. So all, as much as
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm behind and say I'm behind, you know,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: it's just a matter of you know, checking the boxes
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: and putting the pieces of the puzzle together so that
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: the you know, the two days before the I leave
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: for South Dakota. I know that, Hey, my mobile setup
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: is ready for Michigan. My trail cameras are out in
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: you know, in Iowa, and I have all the gear
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I need for South Dakota. I am just at that
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: point on Auto Islet, and I just go where the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: wind takes me. So tell me this, What is one
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: area of improvement that you are hoping to focus on
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: in some way this year? Is there anything that you
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: thought about leading into this year that you want to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: try to do a little differently, or that you want
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: to learn from last year, or something like that. You know,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's hard because you don't know what to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: improve on until you make those mistakes, right, So you fail,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: and then you learn from that failure and you make
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: better decisions the next time you set foot in the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: timber or a field, so to speak. I don't I
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: don't know that I've necessarily improved or gotten better at anything.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: One thing that I'm going to do is to just
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: slow down and absorb, you know, absorb that, you know,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: not necessarily sit in front of a phone all day
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: looking at whether, looking at maps, you know, just deciphering
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: all that talking about that equation that if the wind
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: is doing this, and the terrain is this, then I
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: need to do this and all that stuff, just like
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: go and make my decision with every step. If that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: makes sense, I think so okay, Um, I think not
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: react or I want to react not playing, If that
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: makes sense. I think I follow you. I think I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: follow you. That's kind of in line with one of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: my areas of improvement is I want to take my
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: uh kind of like the stuff I talked about with
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Andre and some other guys earlier, take my scouting to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the next level, like like not be so dependent just
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: on trail cameras and what I see and try to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: get my ground game up a little bit and some
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I'm really trying to folk us more on paying attention
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: to tracks, trying to pay attention to what's the sign
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: telling you, and being willing to push in and and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: and and lose. This goes back to something from last week,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: lose the fear of failure. A lot of my hunting,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: especially early on, and every year I've gotten better as
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: I've gotten more experienced, but there was always this fear
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: of failure. You know. It was like you hear all
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: these people, and you read all these magazines that preach,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: don't spook a mature buck, don't let those bucks know
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: you're there. You've got to make sure that you know
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: they have no idea because if they catch you once
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: you're done. So so much my hunting revolved around, you know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: keeping pressure as low as possible, never letting a deer
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: know I was there, and and and stressing out all
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: the time about that. Not that that's not important, it's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's still very important. But I'm also learning
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: that you you can get away with things if it's
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: done in the smart way. And because you've got to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: take stabs to get the kill, um, you gotta get
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: aggressive sometimes to make it happen. So so I want
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: to this year lose a little bit of that fear
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: of failure because sometimes you do have to swing for
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: the fences to hit a home run. Um, you can't
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: always just sit in the sideline. So that's I want to.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I think I've been taking steps there each of the
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: past few years, and UM, I'm wanting to take another
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: step this year in that kind of way. So I'm
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit more aggressive. I'm gonna get
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: deeper into things that I have in the past. I'm
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: going to explore just a little bit more, um and
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: if I bump something or if I screw it up
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: that day, well learn from it and adjust and we'll
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: see what happens. Um. So that's that's what I'm hoping for.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Any last things you want to cover off on for
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: our goals hopes and hit list d you know, I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: have one more small goal, and that is to get
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: my son and daughter out for a field edge hunt
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: where I'm not expecting to shoot anything per se, but
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I want to get them out and get them in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: a tree stand for you know, for an hour or
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: so and let them see like hopefully the goal is
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: to let them see deer in a in their natural environment,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: you know, and say, oh look, hey there's a deer
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: right there. Watch him. Let's just watch even if he's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: a hundred yards away. Let him put up the binoculars,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: let them do all that stuff. So a little bit
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: of the you know, the father teaching their kids how
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: to hunt stuff, um while the weather's good, and uh,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: get some of that going to Yeah, that's awesome. I
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: was I was thinking about trying to get Everett out
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: for a little sit at this sometime this fall too.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: If if somehow it worked out were schedule and weather
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: came together, and to do something that's sitting, like a
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: box blind or a blind that would be comfortable for
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: him and we wouldn't spook ten tho deer that would
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: be that'd be awesome because he is like my son
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: is nuts for here right now. Um. Every night before bed,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: he wants to watch a deer buck show, as he
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: calls him. So we watch a little bit of deer
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Buck before bed, and he when there's a buck on screen,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: he's rattling. He's got his own rattley antlers. He goes
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: to bed, he brings his rattling antlers to bed with him.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: He's got a grunt tube. So he's grunting, and he'll
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I swear to goodness, swear to goodness. I have to
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: say goodness because if I say I swear to God,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: or if I say, oh my God. By accident, he's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: starting to repeat everything. So I'm trying to make about that. Yeah,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be more careful my language these days. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But he he will do a regular grunt. He knows
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  Speaker 1: how to do this basic bra he knows how to
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  Speaker 1: snort weez, so he'll snort weez at bucks, and then
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  Speaker 1: he also he'll try to stop a buck to get
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  Speaker 1: a shot, so when the bucks getting close, he'll start going, Matt, Matt,
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  Speaker 1: it's so funny. Um, so that's it's funny you say that. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I got all my mouths in my living room, right,
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  Speaker 1: and I asked my daughter, which which deer of all
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: these mounts do you like the best? She points to
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  Speaker 1: one and I say why she's like, because it's got
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  Speaker 1: big anglers. Like okay, my my oldest son, Hey, what
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  Speaker 1: what do you like about? Or what's your favorite deer
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  Speaker 1: on the wall points to the same buck and says
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  Speaker 1: it's because it's got big anglers. And my little my
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  Speaker 1: my two year old, I go, which one is your favorite?
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  Speaker 1: And he points to the mount with the uh, probably
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  Speaker 1: the smallest rack up there, and I go, buddy, why
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  Speaker 1: do you like that buck? And he goes, big neck,
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  Speaker 1: big neck, and it is it is. It is the
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  Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. I shot this buck and his neck
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: is just all swollen and huge, and I lost it.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, y, so funny, that is great. Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be so much fun when these guys are
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: out there hunting with us. I had a conversation with
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: a seventy two year old the other day, um, who
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: his kids are my age now, right, and he's now
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: transitioned into grandpa mode where he takes his grandchildren out
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: sometimes fishing and hunting, and he's he's telling me his
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: favorite the thing he remembers the most is when they
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: start to get into their teenage years and they still
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: really like the outdoors, and they really haven't. They've made
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: a decision that they want to be an outdoorsman. It's
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: okay to not go hang out with your friends, right
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: every single weekend. They want to do the hunting thing. Right.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, that's awesome. But what I love even more
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: is when we have arguments, or when we used to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: have arguments over where to go set up. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: that stuck with me, and that showed me that they
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: were just as passionate as I was about, you know,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: getting into hunting, because they they started forming their own
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: opinions on on how animals moved and where they should
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: set up and all these things. And he's like, it
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: was stressful at the time, but I absolutely look back
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: and I absolutely loved that stress. That's awesome. That that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: will be cool, That will be cool. Well, we've gotta
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: lot to look forward to, my friend, several more years
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: until that though, But man, I'll tell you this, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: good luck this upcoming fall. I hope you have a blast.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, same to you. Let's let's make sure
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: we're checking in as frequently as we possibly can over
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: these coming months so we can keep the progress updates coming.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: And uh, hopefully next time we talked for one of
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: these things, I'll have an Idaho story for you. Absolutely. Man,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: all right, Bud, thank you, And that is today's episode.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Hopefully enjoyed this one, little lighthearted, a little bit focused
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: on Dan and not a little bit completely focused on
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: my season and Dan season. But uh, this is something
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: we try to lay out there so you can follow
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: along with us throughout the rest of the season and
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: kind of see some of the things we're thinking about,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: and then as the season plays out, you can kind
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: of compare and contrast to what we're hoping for or
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: what we were thinking to what actually happens. And then
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: when the season is done, we're gonna do a postmortem
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: and talk about what we learned. Did we meet those goals,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: did we fail to meet those goals, What do we
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: learn from all of that? What kinds of mistakes do
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: we make? There's sure to be a lot of that,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: so be sure to tune in see how this thing
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: pans out, see what stories come to life, and uh
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: see if maybe Dan and I can feel a tag
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: or two, and hopefully you as well. So thank you
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: for listening, thanks for joining us for this one. We
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: will be back next week with all sorts of interesting
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: new topics, and until then, thank you and stay wired
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: to Hunt.