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The Last of Us Special: Episode 8 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to Stepan
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Speaker 1: never told her your protection to iHeartRadio, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: what is probably the penultimate episode of our Last of Us,
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Speaker 1: a mini series special wherein we react and discuss the
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Speaker 1: HBO Max series, which is not a sponsor. And thank
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Speaker 1: you to everyone who is lovingly pointed that out to me.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned that there's an official podcast that they listen to.
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Speaker 1: That's all right, I understand. I haven't listened to it.
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Speaker 1: Does that make you feel better? I only listen to
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Speaker 1: you Annie. Oh thanks, but I do have to remind
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Speaker 1: you that, yes, we are not sponsored. So yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: it's all friendly. It's all in good fun. I'm sure.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you hope. Yeah. I do appreciate you've been hosting.
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Speaker 1: We've been having watched parties. They've been a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: So as always, there will be spoilers for episode eight,
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Speaker 1: called When We Are in Need, the most recent episode
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Speaker 1: of the Last of Us, and all of the episodes
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Speaker 1: before that. Samantha was very good, has been very good
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Speaker 1: of trying to get me to not spoil anything else.
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Speaker 1: So I think I think we can do it. This
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Speaker 1: one thing we got this we do but I oh,
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Speaker 1: I want to be like, let off the leash. I know, um,
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Speaker 1: I will wait, but we know even with this finale,
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Speaker 1: you still can't be fully off the leash. I know,
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Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna I'm gonna put some annoying teaser
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Speaker 1: baked teaser things at the end of this one. If
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Speaker 1: you don't want to hear them, you can skip it,
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Speaker 1: but I have to put them in, Okay, And if
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, then you know. Um.
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Speaker 1: So these are coming out every Saturday after the most
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Speaker 1: recent episode has aired on Sunday, and they are replacing
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Speaker 1: my bi weekly Happy Hours, which you've probably noticed have
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Speaker 1: been classics. That will we'll go back to our readily
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Speaker 1: scheduled scheduling programming once this is over, probably probably probably.
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Speaker 1: They have announced a season two and three, but I
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Speaker 1: think that'll be at least two years from now. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: content morning on this one. We're not going to go
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Speaker 1: two in depth on these because this sounds really dire,
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Speaker 1: and this episode is really dire, but we are going
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Speaker 1: to be talking about them. Some pedophilia, sexual assault, attempts, cannibalism,
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Speaker 1: child abuse, and torture. This is the seconds. There's only
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Speaker 1: one more episode left, and I just saw headline that
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Speaker 1: it was record breaking with seventy four viewership increase from
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Speaker 1: the premiere. It was a lot. It was huge increase,
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Speaker 1: So a lot of people watched it, and it was
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Speaker 1: quite disturbing. I'll say that I got a lot of
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Speaker 1: once again angry text. Well sorry, so with that teaser,
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Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, can you give us your
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Speaker 1: excellent recap of the episode's Amantha? Well, before we do that,
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Speaker 1: I need to know, I need to do a check
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Speaker 1: in because there's one episode left. One episode. How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? Anny? Well, you saw I'm like excited. Now
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Speaker 1: it's Tuesday. It doesn't come out till next Sunday. I'm
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Speaker 1: very very excited. I think it's going to be absolutely bonkers.
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Speaker 1: I did get spoiled on one thing. I'm all mad
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Speaker 1: about that, but that's okay. Did I do it? Kind
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Speaker 1: of yeah? Did you did it? Nod? But it had
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Speaker 1: in conjunction with something else that happened together. It's something
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Speaker 1: I do think. It's it's only forty three minute song.
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to pack in a lot. I
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Speaker 1: think there was a recent article with Billy Ramsey where
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Speaker 1: she said this is going to really divide the fandom,
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Speaker 1: and I think that it will, and that's one of
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Speaker 1: the big things I've been wanting to talk about since
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Speaker 1: the beginning. Yeah, so I'm like, I'm very very excited.
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Speaker 1: I like that kind of like angsty conversation that's going
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Speaker 1: to come out of it. I'm worried there's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a lot of like anger and hate, but that's kind
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Speaker 1: of part for the course for gaming, so that's unfortunate.
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Speaker 1: So I'm nervous as well, but I am very sad.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Oh and are you doing okay? Knowing that
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Speaker 1: your Sundays are about to be a little bit emptier
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Speaker 1: without festivals. I am going to miss them. It's been
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Speaker 1: really fun. We hang out, we have like a meal,
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Speaker 1: we drank, we talk, and then we watch it together
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Speaker 1: and then I watch it again. It's like you and
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Speaker 1: my partner. I have a new tradition where you watch
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Speaker 1: it immediately after and I go to bed after everyone
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Speaker 1: is left in Samantha's gun to bed, we start again,
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Speaker 1: and I just like picking up on things that like,
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Speaker 1: I don't really watch TV that off and I on
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Speaker 1: in the background a lot, but I don't really like
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Speaker 1: sit and watch, especially in a group, very often. So
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Speaker 1: it's been fun to do that be like, oh, look
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Speaker 1: at that Easter, I go look at that thing. I
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Speaker 1: am I'm gonna miss it a lot. And two years
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Speaker 1: and like I said, you know, I would say, even
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Speaker 1: if I have, you know, critiques about it, I wish
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Speaker 1: I will talk about and I've heard some from my
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Speaker 1: friends about it, like oh it's too short, it's moved
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Speaker 1: too fast, or all that stuff. I think it's good,
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Speaker 1: like undeniably, it's very good. And that has been very
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Speaker 1: nice to like just watch something and we have this
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Speaker 1: kind of feedback of people like, oh wow, I'm watching
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Speaker 1: it now and I love this and this scared me
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Speaker 1: so much or whatever it is. From people in person
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Speaker 1: and from people online. It's been very fun. Good. I'm glad. Yes,
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Speaker 1: now that we've done the check in, let's do this
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Speaker 1: recap very ready. So we open up watching a new
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Speaker 1: group of people sitting together reading a verse from Revelation.
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Speaker 1: It seems that they are very churchy, very religious group
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Speaker 1: of people. They are mourning at the same time they're
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Speaker 1: worshiping together. A young woman, young lady, probably teens, is
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Speaker 1: crying and cannot stop from crying. During that time in
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Speaker 1: which he comes over, he being the pastor or the
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Speaker 1: leader as we know, find out his name is David
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Speaker 1: and if you know, you know warning. He comes over
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Speaker 1: to talk to her, talking about you know, letting, letting
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Speaker 1: the dead rest, and knowing that it's hard to lose
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Speaker 1: people we're together, all these things, and then she says,
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Speaker 1: can we at least bury him? And he's talking about
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Speaker 1: her father who had gotten killed, named Alec Man. He says,
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Speaker 1: everybody stops, we look around, and he looks over at
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Speaker 1: probably the secondhand man, who is played by Troy Baker,
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Speaker 1: And if you don't know who that is, we'll explain
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Speaker 1: in a minute. But it is important that we've we've
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Speaker 1: talked about him before and his name is James. And
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Speaker 1: they kind of give each other the face and David,
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Speaker 1: the leader comes around and he's like, you know, we
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this. We can't bury him because the
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Speaker 1: ground is too cold. It is a wintry, wintry, wintry mess,
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Speaker 1: ice and cold and snow. Everywhere. You feel it. You
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Speaker 1: feel in the colors, you feel it in their faces.
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Speaker 1: As they walk out after the meeting, David goes to
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Speaker 1: speak with James and there's like, oh, there seems to
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Speaker 1: be a lot of doubt there, and James is like,
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Speaker 1: people are just scared. He's like, no, I'm not talking
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Speaker 1: about them, and rut row not a good sign. Then
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Speaker 1: we hear him saying, you know, come on, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: go try to find dear, which people have said that
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Speaker 1: have been seen out around. We cut two. Ellie is
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Speaker 1: in the basement with Joel still who was still unconscious,
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Speaker 1: and she's freaking out trying to give him some water
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Speaker 1: because she's like, are you thirsty? And then she splits
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Speaker 1: us two bites of food I guess a jerky and
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Speaker 1: places one on his chest, hoping that he will eat.
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Speaker 1: Then she takes his rifle decides to go hunt. She hunts,
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Speaker 1: and he actually gets a deer. There is a moment
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Speaker 1: that you think she's about to kill a rabbit, which
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Speaker 1: if you've played the game, you know you know beaty dubs.
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Speaker 1: She does not. We go on to see that she's
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Speaker 1: following the track into the bloody deer because she take
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Speaker 1: it a shot off. Then we come back to James
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Speaker 1: and David, who has discovered this dead deer looking around.
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Speaker 1: They're like, well, they're not here, so maybe we can
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Speaker 1: grab it, we can go quickly, which Ellie pounces and
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Speaker 1: she's like, step away from the deer, put down your rifle.
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Speaker 1: And David turns around. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Speaker 1: We don't want to rob you. What if we give
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Speaker 1: you a trade? Let me put down the rifle. Both
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Speaker 1: of them put down the rifle, and he's like, we
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Speaker 1: got a whole village of people we need to feed.
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Speaker 1: And she's like, so do why and then he's like, well,
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Speaker 1: how about you know, we do a trade. And she's like,
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Speaker 1: we've got food, we've got boots. And she's like do
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Speaker 1: you have medicine and he's like, well, yes, we do.
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Speaker 1: And so she's like, okay, well why don't your buddy
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Speaker 1: boy go and grab the stuff. If you stay with
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Speaker 1: me and if he brings it, we can split the deer.
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Speaker 1: Which I still can't understand how that was going to happen.
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Speaker 1: How is she even going to drag the deer? How
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Speaker 1: is she going to cook the deer? There are so
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Speaker 1: many questions, but I get it. But during this time,
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Speaker 1: and you know, James is like, oh am, I supposed
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Speaker 1: to kill her or what it was? And he's like, no,
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Speaker 1: it's not code. Go get penicillin, Go get syringes. Go now,
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Speaker 1: we'll stay here Ellie and hit them hang out for
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Speaker 1: a minute. Ellie empties the guns and he's like, why
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Speaker 1: don't we go into that shelter. I've got supplies to
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Speaker 1: make a fire, and we'll just hang out until James
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Speaker 1: comes back. Cool. Cool, Cool. They go and sit and
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Speaker 1: there's this a lot of philosophical conversation happening in this moment,
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Speaker 1: very important conversation in which she talks about you know,
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Speaker 1: it's all about luck or whatever. He's like, I don't
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Speaker 1: believe in luck. For instance, let me tell you this.
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Speaker 1: I sent a bunch of men to a village to
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Speaker 1: go see if they can find supplies, and turns out
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Speaker 1: they were murdered by this really crazy man. And get this,
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Speaker 1: this crazy man had a little girl with him shoot
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Speaker 1: to see. I don't this is what I mean. This
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Speaker 1: is fate. And then we see that James has got
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Speaker 1: a gun on her, and which David says stop. Given
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Speaker 1: the syringes, she can go. Essentially, he's like what you know,
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, he's like, I can help you. You're not
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Speaker 1: going to survive here out in the cold, alone, and
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Speaker 1: again she's like, you know, I'm not alone. It'll be fine.
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Speaker 1: He's like, we can help you, but whatever, whatnot. She
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Speaker 1: takes the medicine, runs away, comes to Joel, and then
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Speaker 1: she gives him a shot of venison into his wound,
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Speaker 1: which our friend Marissa, who is in the nursing field
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Speaker 1: who will you have heard from, had a lot of
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Speaker 1: critique on this, the way that she was putting the
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Speaker 1: medicine in, but she does it does well, keeps going.
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Speaker 1: This time, David and James returned to the village. They're like, look,
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Speaker 1: we got venison. But before they get there, all of
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Speaker 1: the towns people are eating some kind of yummy meat
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Speaker 1: and everybody kind of sis there and goes what are
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Speaker 1: we eating? And they're like venison And then they're like wait,
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Speaker 1: but the venison wasn't there, how m But David comes back,
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Speaker 1: trying to be joyous, like, look we got dear, we
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Speaker 1: got meat. And there they are all somber and quiet,
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Speaker 1: and he's like, if you've heard this rumor that, yes
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Speaker 1: we did find that man. We did. I did let
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Speaker 1: her go, but we will go back and track them down.
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Speaker 1: At that point, the same young teenage girl gets up
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Speaker 1: and says she should kill them. You should kill both
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Speaker 1: of them, at which point David comes over and violently
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Speaker 1: slaps her and says, you know, you act like you
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Speaker 1: don't have a dad. I'm your daddy, and that's not
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Speaker 1: in the internet way we were talking about. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: So as we was down, we realize, oh, he's not cool.
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Speaker 1: This is not cool. So he does take a group
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Speaker 1: of men and they go on their way to hunt
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Speaker 1: him down. While she's singing in with Joel. She goes
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Speaker 1: back out, trying to look around to see I guess
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Speaker 1: either maybe get the breath of fresh air or a situation,
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Speaker 1: and she hears oh, noise like oh, fluttering of birds.
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Speaker 1: Obviously something's disrupted the atmosphere. Goes and sees that the
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Speaker 1: men have come back, followed her to the house. So
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Speaker 1: she goes downstairs, gives Joel a knife and says, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna try to lead them away, but if they do,
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Speaker 1: come down here and kill them. And so she does that.
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Speaker 1: She puts a bookshelf against the door, runs away, takes
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Speaker 1: the poor horse, shoots off at them, tries to distract them.
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Speaker 1: As she does, the horse gets shot. Very sad. I
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Speaker 1: hated that and she falls off falls unconscious, and David
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Speaker 1: and James and another man take her back to the
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Speaker 1: village while three others stay behind to hunt down Joel,
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Speaker 1: and which David says, if you want your vengeance, go
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Speaker 1: get it, so we'd go to They go away and
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Speaker 1: Hu and we see that she is locked up. She
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Speaker 1: wakes up and she's like, what's going on? Why am
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Speaker 1: I in a cage? And then he goes through all
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Speaker 1: of these conversations about how, oh you know I can
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Speaker 1: he be here to help you. We're one and the same.
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Speaker 1: I have a violent way and so do you. I've
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Speaker 1: always known this and I see it in you. We
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Speaker 1: are much alike. We can do a lot together. And
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Speaker 1: then does that creepy thing where he touches her hand
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Speaker 1: and be implying things, not good things, in which at
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Speaker 1: that point he's like, what's your name and she's like,
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Speaker 1: I don't care, like trying to talk to him, and
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Speaker 1: then she breaks his finger and this ruckass happens and
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Speaker 1: she tries to grab the keys and he bangs her
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Speaker 1: head against the door and she falls back and he's like,
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Speaker 1: I try to help you, because at that point he
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Speaker 1: was bargaining everything from like you'll be helped, you won't
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Speaker 1: be alone. We'll let Joel go, will I'll tell the
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Speaker 1: men to stop hunting them. They listen to me. I'm
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Speaker 1: a leader, you're a leader. And at that point, because
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Speaker 1: he's bad, he goes, now, what do you what's going
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Speaker 1: to happen to you? Now? What's going to happen to him?
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Speaker 1: You know this is on you. Essentially, I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: take care of things. So he runs out after calling
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Speaker 1: her media words which would be bleeped on here, so
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Speaker 1: I won't say it. Flash back to oh No, the
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Speaker 1: men are hunting Joel down and one of them discover
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Speaker 1: where he is is. But Joel woke up, realizes he
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Speaker 1: has to get into survival tactic, kills one man real hard,
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Speaker 1: and then tortures another man oh and knocks out both men,
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Speaker 1: essentially ties him up, put him in the same area,
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Speaker 1: talks to one man who's tied down, who wakes up
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Speaker 1: when he was unconscious to see Joel like covering over him,
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Speaker 1: saying where is she? Where did they take her? All
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Speaker 1: the tricks of the torture. He's like, if you don't
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Speaker 1: tell me, I'm gonna blow off your kneecaps. He just
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Speaker 1: goes like, man, man, you don't have to do this,
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Speaker 1: and then he stabs his knee and we hear him
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Speaker 1: scream and the buddy boy scream in the background, and
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Speaker 1: so he says, point to where she is on this
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Speaker 1: map and if your partner doesn't agree, y'are both dead,
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Speaker 1: in which the dude does he do do dude, I'll
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Speaker 1: tell her. I tell you here she is, and then
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Speaker 1: he kills him. Anyway, the other dude was like, man,
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Speaker 1: what are you doing? Why did you do that? I'm
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Speaker 1: never gonna tell you. Now He's like, that's fine, I
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Speaker 1: believe him, and then he kills him too, and then
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Speaker 1: so he goes after Ellie. At this point in time,
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Speaker 1: James and David come back grab her out of the cellar.
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Speaker 1: Oh big key point. She had seen ears on the
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Speaker 1: floor and realizes they have been eating people and she
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Speaker 1: accuses them of being monsters and she would never she
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Speaker 1: asked him are you going to chop me up in
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Speaker 1: tiny pieces? Previously? And now he comes back and he's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna chop you up in tiny pieces. So they
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Speaker 1: grab her put her on the butcher block, essentially ready
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Speaker 1: to go to town. She starts screaming, no, don't do this,
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Speaker 1: don't do this. I'm infected, and they both stopped and
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Speaker 1: they're like what, because he had at this point gotten
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Speaker 1: bitten by her and had a bloody, bloody nub of
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Speaker 1: a hand. She's getting just bloody hand, and she's like,
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Speaker 1: roll up my sleeve. Look you'll see, you'll see I'm infected,
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Speaker 1: and now so are you. So they pull up her
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Speaker 1: sleeve and James is freaking out and David's trying to
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Speaker 1: figure things out. He's like, there's no way, there's no
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Speaker 1: way you'd have turned by now. You'd turned by now.
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Speaker 1: And this gives her enough time to grab the axe
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Speaker 1: and hack James and the neck which he died, eyes
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Speaker 1: violently while she rolls off and runs away, and David
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Speaker 1: is shooting at her and chases her down into a
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Speaker 1: restaurant of that little area. She throws a burning branch
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Speaker 1: stick at him, which hits the curtain, sets the place
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Speaker 1: on fire slowly, and he's like, you know what, I
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Speaker 1: am gonna take you. It doesn't matter. You are going
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Speaker 1: to live. And so am I all of these things,
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Speaker 1: and I am good. I decided you do need a father,
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Speaker 1: and I will be your father. That feels very threatening,
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Speaker 1: and then he does a whisper I'm coming to get you.
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Speaker 1: Where are you? Ellie does all of that stuff, and
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Speaker 1: she's hiding in the background. She jumps on him. He's
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Speaker 1: able to take her down. At this point, we know
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Speaker 1: things are getting grows because he is implying that he's
16:42
Speaker 1: about to rape her at that point, but she's able
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Speaker 1: to grab a knife jams it in his neck. He
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Speaker 1: flips off. She pounces on him and repeatedly stabs him.
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Speaker 1: Repeatedly stabs him in a very violent and malicious way, screaming,
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Speaker 1: and then she runs out the door, traumatized bloody. When
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Speaker 1: Joel comes around and grabs her, she's freaking out, thinking
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Speaker 1: to someone else until he captures her face and says
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Speaker 1: it's me, it's me as she stops to look, and
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Speaker 1: he hugs her and says I got you, baby girl,
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Speaker 1: as she's saying he was about too, and then they leave. Yeah, insane.
17:21
Speaker 1: I like how you always ended with it. I feel
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Speaker 1: like it has to happen. Yeah, excellent as always, Thank you, Samantha.
17:41
Speaker 1: I do want to a couple of like housekeeping at
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Speaker 1: the top. Number one is in the last episode, we
17:51
Speaker 1: kind of made a very vague, weird dimension of the
17:54
Speaker 1: rabbit scene. Yes, if you've been like turning over your head,
17:59
Speaker 1: what could they have meant about that? So there's an
18:04
Speaker 1: infamous scene in the game where Ellie there's like a
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Speaker 1: pretty rabbit. It like literally goes. It goes from like
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Speaker 1: you think Joel has died hard cut. You are now
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Speaker 1: Ellie and you're hunting, and then there's no other explanation.
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Speaker 1: You were playing as Ellie now, which I'm going to
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Speaker 1: talk about more in a second, and you see this
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Speaker 1: rabbit and it's so pretty, it's like snow is glistening
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Speaker 1: in the light. You're like, oh, rabbit, and then an
18:36
Speaker 1: arrow comes from right through the neck, blood everywhere. And
18:40
Speaker 1: the reason why it's kind of infamous is because a
18:42
Speaker 1: lot of those like YouTube videos where a guy is
18:47
Speaker 1: usually a guy is like, hey, girlfriend, come watch me
18:52
Speaker 1: play this, or come play this. Look how cute, and
18:54
Speaker 1: then they're shocked and horrified at what happens. And so
18:58
Speaker 1: that's what we were talking about that and that's why
19:01
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think with the effects it
19:02
Speaker 1: would have been worse the cost of what are taken by.
19:08
Speaker 1: They had a nod at it, They had a little
19:10
Speaker 1: like they had a nod and they did switch up
19:13
Speaker 1: our weapons. So in the game she has a bow
19:15
Speaker 1: and arrow, but they gave her a rifle for the show,
19:19
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming they'll never have her using a bow
19:23
Speaker 1: and arrow in especially in season one, because that's not
19:26
Speaker 1: being introduced at all. Yes, and I think that is
19:30
Speaker 1: because what I'm going to talk about more in a second,
19:34
Speaker 1: but there because these are video games, I've seen a
19:36
Speaker 1: lot of arguments about like why did they cut this?
19:38
Speaker 1: Why did they cut this? There's a whole scene where
19:41
Speaker 1: you're playing as Ellie where you have to work with
19:44
Speaker 1: David when you first meet him, and there are clickers,
19:46
Speaker 1: there are bloaters. You have to fight all of them.
19:49
Speaker 1: And in the game that's meant to endear you to him,
19:52
Speaker 1: like you have to work together. He does protect her,
19:56
Speaker 1: he gives her weapons like you know you do you
19:59
Speaker 1: have to work with him, And a part of that
20:01
Speaker 1: is she only has the bow and arrow and he
20:04
Speaker 1: gives her the rifle. It's not Joel's rifle because she
20:06
Speaker 1: leaves that with him thinking something maybe he'll need it.
20:10
Speaker 1: But it's also because you have a whole scene, as
20:12
Speaker 1: I said in the last one, this is the scariest
20:15
Speaker 1: section of the game in my opinion, because suddenly you're
20:17
Speaker 1: playing as Ellie. Ellie is much smaller, She has like
20:21
Speaker 1: no weaponry other than a couple of things, and is like,
20:25
Speaker 1: whereas Joel can take a lot of good hits, she can't,
20:29
Speaker 1: but she's stealthier, Like, she has things that she's better
20:32
Speaker 1: at than Joel, and like I said, one of them
20:33
Speaker 1: is she can kill it clicker and one hit. Joel
20:35
Speaker 1: can't do that generally. But the bow and arrow is
20:39
Speaker 1: like the compromise because they can't hear you use the
20:42
Speaker 1: bow and arrow, So if you're really good at it,
20:44
Speaker 1: it's like my favorite weapon. Then you can take out
20:46
Speaker 1: a lot of people and they'll never hear it, so
20:50
Speaker 1: you're still kind of being stealthy but taking people out.
20:52
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think they'll introduce it at all
20:54
Speaker 1: in this season. Oh gosh, I have so much to
20:56
Speaker 1: say about this one, but I do want to start
20:58
Speaker 1: with Also, yes, Roy Baker, who's on the podcast is
21:05
Speaker 1: the voice actor of Joel and also a lot of
21:09
Speaker 1: other Like if you've played any video game in this Realm,
21:12
Speaker 1: you've probably heard him. He does do a lot of
21:15
Speaker 1: these kind of gruff fatherly figures. It turns out I'm
21:18
Speaker 1: telling you about that TikTok. People have been sending me
21:20
Speaker 1: about people cosplaying his quote Troy Baker's daughter, because in
21:24
Speaker 1: so many video games he plays that role. He was
21:27
Speaker 1: James who is the Creeper number two, and you can
21:30
Speaker 1: watch the you know, behind the show afterwards where he
21:33
Speaker 1: talks about like how amazing this was or rewarding it
21:36
Speaker 1: was for him. He never thought he'd do this. He
21:38
Speaker 1: thought maybe he'd be a clicker at most. It was
21:41
Speaker 1: cool too, It's like we talked about Samantha. It's cool
21:45
Speaker 1: to see that they're including the voice actors in it,
21:47
Speaker 1: at least some of them. And it was kind of
21:50
Speaker 1: a bit. It kind of messed with my mind about
21:54
Speaker 1: because in the game he's Joel, yeah, and he's protecting
21:57
Speaker 1: Ellie and he looks like Joel. And then we all
22:03
Speaker 1: had a bet about who was gonna end up killing
22:05
Speaker 1: James and so many people. I was like, it's gonna
22:07
Speaker 1: be Joel and Joel, but it was Elian Joel, which
22:09
Speaker 1: was almost the worst. I know. I was like sitting
22:12
Speaker 1: and then he's the one that shoots the horse um
22:15
Speaker 1: and puts her in this like really dangerous situation. So
22:19
Speaker 1: that was a really interesting right and he also knew
22:22
Speaker 1: about the cannibalism. Oh, I've forgot that part where Joel
22:24
Speaker 1: sees the dead bodies without their kids hanging upside down,
22:28
Speaker 1: real creepy. Yeah, they're like hang like curing like meat
22:31
Speaker 1: in their plastic grass. And oh they're the dead, including
22:34
Speaker 1: the father. Yeah they did not bury. Yes, And so
22:38
Speaker 1: David is sitting in front of this poor girl who
22:41
Speaker 1: he just slept as she's eating, and she is eating
22:44
Speaker 1: her father, who she's so worried about it wants to
22:47
Speaker 1: burry and she doesn't though, and it's like one of
22:50
Speaker 1: the most disturbing thing disturbing and bat doves. We did
22:54
Speaker 1: not mean to, but we do have food during our
22:58
Speaker 1: before us, and we ended up having like a meat stew.
23:02
Speaker 1: And I did not think about it until my partner's
23:05
Speaker 1: sister because she knows we have these them things and
23:08
Speaker 1: typically it's not just themed on the last of us.
23:11
Speaker 1: It could be like something's happening that week, but we're
23:13
Speaker 1: just gonna make it this thing. And we she asked,
23:16
Speaker 1: did you have beef stew? And we were like, oh
23:17
Speaker 1: my god, we did. And I did not even think
23:19
Speaker 1: about it until the I thought about it, but then
23:23
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to mention it because
23:24
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to feel like nauseous. It's nauseating,
23:28
Speaker 1: but I thank you for that. It wasn't. After thought,
23:31
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, shoot, we did well. They don't
23:35
Speaker 1: really show that in the gate, like you know what's happening,
23:38
Speaker 1: but you don't have like such a visceral graphic scene
23:40
Speaker 1: of everybody eating it and not knowing. Yeah. But also
23:44
Speaker 1: our lovely friend that aforementioned, Marissa, she made this wonderful meal,
23:49
Speaker 1: but I did not know there was going to be
23:51
Speaker 1: a beef stew. I wouldn't have told her no, but
23:53
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was going to be part of it. Yeah,
23:56
Speaker 1: it was so delicious. Let us left and I'm eating
23:59
Speaker 1: as still as one of my favorite things. We were
24:01
Speaker 1: telling how it feels like just a homie huge the
24:04
Speaker 1: slop does. But then you think about in that context,
24:06
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, never mind. Yeah, well, there's something about
24:09
Speaker 1: all of them because they're so hungry and there's like
24:11
Speaker 1: the clanking of the spoons against the only if you
24:15
Speaker 1: have to know this is human and it's a friend
24:17
Speaker 1: Alec that they're all crying about that this morning. Oh
24:23
Speaker 1: my gosh. Anyway, moving, okay, anyway, Yes, so I did
24:27
Speaker 1: want to go back to the point of playing Allie
24:29
Speaker 1: during the game. So, as I said in the previous episodes,
24:31
Speaker 1: the first game is divided by seasons, and they get
24:35
Speaker 1: progressively shorter hints. Why there's only one episode left, and
24:39
Speaker 1: you do play as Allie during the winter section, and
24:43
Speaker 1: I think it is a scary section. As I've said,
24:45
Speaker 1: you don't know that Joel has survived the first hint.
24:49
Speaker 1: You get that he has survived when she's like medicine, medicine,
24:52
Speaker 1: and then like, oh, maybe he's still He's still there.
24:55
Speaker 1: But um, if you've listened or watched the behind the shows,
25:00
Speaker 1: if you've read some of the articles about this game,
25:03
Speaker 1: this whole section is what inspired the game. What Neil Druckman,
25:06
Speaker 1: the creator, inspired him to do. It was because he
25:09
Speaker 1: writes about this game he played where where in it's
25:13
Speaker 1: a very traditional game where you're playing the kind of
25:16
Speaker 1: like a gotta rescue the princess and the castle situation
25:19
Speaker 1: as a male protagonist, and then it turns out not
25:24
Speaker 1: only does she not need rescuing, she rescues you. So
25:28
Speaker 1: it really flips and then you're playing as her. So
25:31
Speaker 1: this was what he really wanted to explore. And it
25:34
Speaker 1: kind of like I was thinking about this last night
25:37
Speaker 1: when I was trying to get over the nightmare I
25:40
Speaker 1: had about a spider long story. But whatever, it's unfortunate,
25:45
Speaker 1: but I don't know too many games who have done that.
25:47
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times you do just play, you know,
25:51
Speaker 1: your your traditional hero character and he saves your younger
25:55
Speaker 1: innocent character, usually a woman or a girl. And where
26:00
Speaker 1: to talk about that more in the finale episode and
26:02
Speaker 1: we have talked about it in our episode on Survival
26:05
Speaker 1: Gaming because that's still there in this as well. But
26:10
Speaker 1: it was like a new thing, like suddenly you are
26:12
Speaker 1: playing as Ellie, this young girl, and it's like totally
26:16
Speaker 1: up to her to save Joel, and in fact it's
26:18
Speaker 1: interspersed with Joel waking up. He does do this torture scene.
26:24
Speaker 1: Like I said in the last one. I know this
26:25
Speaker 1: sounds strange, but it's a really cool game mechanic because
26:27
Speaker 1: he's still sick, so he can't like aim as well.
26:30
Speaker 1: He'll fall over like he's not doing well, but you
26:34
Speaker 1: still think he's going to save her, and then he
26:37
Speaker 1: doesn't it's just like the timing of it, but it's
26:40
Speaker 1: the way it's cut. You still think, oh, okay, but
26:44
Speaker 1: that's not what happens. And that's what they said in
26:46
Speaker 1: the behind the show things that that was like the
26:48
Speaker 1: opposite of what they wanted was for him to come
26:50
Speaker 1: in and save her, but that you're still expecting it
26:52
Speaker 1: because that's the story we see all of the time,
26:55
Speaker 1: and even you know, to an extent, you want it
26:57
Speaker 1: to happen, like you don't want Ellie to have to
26:59
Speaker 1: deal with this, this horrific thing. And one of the
27:05
Speaker 1: things I love about this game, which I'm going to
27:08
Speaker 1: have a lot more to say about this in the
27:09
Speaker 1: final episode, but one of the things I do love
27:12
Speaker 1: about it is this event does not leave Ellie. She
27:17
Speaker 1: is traumatized after this, like she it changes the way
27:20
Speaker 1: she interacts with you and with the world. She is
27:24
Speaker 1: notably despondent and like just gets distracted, kind of doesn't listen,
27:30
Speaker 1: Like I really like that they didn't just put under
27:33
Speaker 1: the rug, like, oh, she she went through this horrible
27:36
Speaker 1: thing and it killed this guy. No, it stays with
27:39
Speaker 1: her for a long time in the game, and there
27:44
Speaker 1: are kind of big cuts in the game which has
27:46
Speaker 1: been I think the source of some people's like wait
27:48
Speaker 1: a minute, because it just it'll just cut the spring
27:50
Speaker 1: or I'll just get to winter or whatever, and you
27:52
Speaker 1: miss kind of a section of them traveling. But and
27:57
Speaker 1: that's also like it's unclear how long Joel has been
28:01
Speaker 1: very sick in the game, but it's it's not like days,
28:04
Speaker 1: it's longer than that. And she the whole like DLC
28:07
Speaker 1: left behind, she had all already kind of exhausted these
28:12
Speaker 1: efforts of healing him. So it's not like a couple
28:14
Speaker 1: of days. But you know, it's not clear either. All right,
28:18
Speaker 1: But we got to talk about this cannibal group. Okay,
28:22
Speaker 1: so they really leaned into the religious aspect, which I'm
28:27
Speaker 1: going to come back to in this. In the game,
28:30
Speaker 1: there is that, but it's like not nearly as prevalent,
28:34
Speaker 1: but it is another example, as we've talked about throughout
28:37
Speaker 1: this of like humans are the worst, Like you've got
28:40
Speaker 1: your infected, but what's the real horror here is humans?
28:49
Speaker 1: And so the big gosh, the big thing with David
28:55
Speaker 1: he is so creepy, oh my gosh, because you do
28:59
Speaker 1: work with him, he identifies with those zombies. He does.
29:03
Speaker 1: He has a whole speech where he's like, they are fruitful,
29:08
Speaker 1: they multiplied, they provide, and they protect using violence when necessary.
29:14
Speaker 1: He does have this strange They kind of played it up,
29:18
Speaker 1: especially between him and James. People were starting to doubt
29:21
Speaker 1: him because there was no food, they were being deprived
29:24
Speaker 1: of food. They were starting to doubt his leadership, and
29:28
Speaker 1: he was getting more and more angry at his own
29:30
Speaker 1: group and especially around Ellie. Ellie was kind of like
29:34
Speaker 1: this blowing up of like, no, I think we need her,
29:36
Speaker 1: and they were like, what are you talking about. We
29:38
Speaker 1: can't even provide for the people that we have. But
29:42
Speaker 1: that whole like his big line is everything exists for
29:44
Speaker 1: a reason. And when I tell you that gives me chills.
29:47
Speaker 1: I was so annoying when we were watching. I was like,
29:49
Speaker 1: here it, Cobbs, he's gonna say it because in the game,
29:52
Speaker 1: that's when you're like, oh, no, they know that we
29:55
Speaker 1: killed those people. Yeah yeah. But him kind of like
30:00
Speaker 1: he says he turned to religion after the apocalypse and
30:06
Speaker 1: in part because the Cordios ups. He almost makes it
30:08
Speaker 1: sound like that's his God is not God, but like
30:11
Speaker 1: Cordio shops showed him the way you see all these
30:15
Speaker 1: like signs he shall provide hanging around and I think,
30:20
Speaker 1: you know, his constant discussion around fatherhood and oh you
30:24
Speaker 1: need a father, I'm your father. In his head, he's
30:27
Speaker 1: taking up this role and it's like a real power
30:30
Speaker 1: trip for him, absolutely, And he has so many like
30:34
Speaker 1: petty lines that we can you know, we're not talking
30:38
Speaker 1: about cannibals, and but we can connect to of like, oh,
30:40
Speaker 1: you know how it hurts to be embarrassed, elliot, Like
30:43
Speaker 1: you've really humiliated me, Like all of these kind of
30:45
Speaker 1: like petty Oh, you're a guy who's not used to
30:48
Speaker 1: being rejected or in a kind of like somebody questioning
30:52
Speaker 1: your authority. And then he has also like this whole
30:57
Speaker 1: thing where he's like, I'm only the leader because they
30:59
Speaker 1: want me to be the leader. They need a god,
31:01
Speaker 1: they need a father, they need heaven. They're just basically sheep.
31:06
Speaker 1: Well he says sheep, but you know, and he's like,
31:08
Speaker 1: I want to an equal. But he's just very condescending
31:12
Speaker 1: of the people that he's supposedly supposed to look after,
31:18
Speaker 1: which I do think it's a lot of commentary on religion.
31:22
Speaker 1: There's also a lot of commentary of daughters with missing fathers.
31:25
Speaker 1: And this was interesting in the behind the show thing
31:29
Speaker 1: where they were talking about like, oh, he you think
31:31
Speaker 1: he's going to be like a good person and a
31:33
Speaker 1: good father and he turns up like the worst, which
31:37
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I don't think I ever
31:39
Speaker 1: put it in my mind like that, but I suppose
31:41
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be some kind of Oh. I think
31:43
Speaker 1: he is meant to look like he could be a
31:46
Speaker 1: good guy, but he's so creepy. Oh anyway, I feel
31:51
Speaker 1: like he's a lot creepier in the game from John,
31:54
Speaker 1: but immediately in the game, whereas in the show he's
31:58
Speaker 1: like not as creepy and then oh god, worse. Yeah,
32:03
Speaker 1: So this is speaking of. This has caused a lot
32:08
Speaker 1: of conversation because some people are like, David was never
32:12
Speaker 1: pedophilic in the game, and I told you the voice
32:18
Speaker 1: actor who played him always intended for him to be
32:21
Speaker 1: read that way, and it certainly can be read that way.
32:24
Speaker 1: I think it was more overt in the show, but
32:26
Speaker 1: it's not like it's there if they're in the game
32:32
Speaker 1: as well, Like he does the whole like holding of
32:34
Speaker 1: the hand scene, he does the whole like basically become
32:35
Speaker 1: my wife thing with Ellie in the game as well.
32:39
Speaker 1: I think, what really like watching it again, it really
32:41
Speaker 1: like struck me as I hate. He has this line
32:43
Speaker 1: where he was a teacher and he taught kids about
32:45
Speaker 1: your age, so upsetting. But he also has a lot
32:49
Speaker 1: of lines like I'm a decent man. You don't know
32:51
Speaker 1: how good I am. You do need a father, Like
32:55
Speaker 1: you said, I can protect you. It's mercy to protect her,
33:00
Speaker 1: Like he's very much painting himself, like you need me
33:03
Speaker 1: to protect you. But if you do anything wrong, anything
33:07
Speaker 1: that is not like in my favor, what I think
33:09
Speaker 1: you should do, then I'm going to do like the
33:12
Speaker 1: very worst things, calling you the very worst things like
33:15
Speaker 1: And there's definitely like again commentary, I think about the
33:18
Speaker 1: whole like preacher father thing happening here. But he, I mean,
33:25
Speaker 1: he's terrified. Like this scene where you're in the restaurant
33:30
Speaker 1: in the game is one of the scariest things I've
33:32
Speaker 1: ever played, because you it's burning down. He can hear
33:37
Speaker 1: you stepping on glass. He's so much bigger than you.
33:41
Speaker 1: He's got like this huge cleaver and you have to
33:44
Speaker 1: sneak up on him and he's saying like these horrible things.
33:46
Speaker 1: It's it's just like a really upsetting, upsetting scene. Well,
33:55
Speaker 1: you're saying all this and we are all like, yeah,
33:57
Speaker 1: this is her favorite gameal I know, we haven't really
34:00
Speaker 1: fun idea to maybe compare us playing our favorite games,
34:02
Speaker 1: which I think would be great. Well, so all of
34:23
Speaker 1: this is juxtaphosed with yes, Jules waking up. He's realizing like,
34:30
Speaker 1: oh no, Ellie is in trouble, and so he uses
34:34
Speaker 1: the old map trick which we talked about in episode six.
34:38
Speaker 1: He does that a couple of times where he has
34:41
Speaker 1: somebody point to a spot on the map and then
34:43
Speaker 1: the other person has to confirm it to make sure
34:45
Speaker 1: that they're not lying. This like really horrendous torture scene,
34:50
Speaker 1: and then him you know, struggling through to find her
34:55
Speaker 1: and seeing those dead bodies, seeing her backpack away. And
35:00
Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that the previous episode no.
35:03
Speaker 1: Episode six set up his anxiety and so much worry
35:06
Speaker 1: of failure, whereas they didn't do that in the game,
35:09
Speaker 1: Like he was definitely desperate and you could tell by
35:12
Speaker 1: like how he tortured these men and killed them that
35:16
Speaker 1: he was definitely desperate, but it didn't set up kind
35:18
Speaker 1: of that like which I felt you could feel in
35:21
Speaker 1: his performance of the oh God, I'm failing again and
35:23
Speaker 1: here it is. But as all this is happening, we
35:27
Speaker 1: see Ellie. Yeah, she gets he threatened. David threatens her
35:32
Speaker 1: with sexual assaults. She gets the clever and just like
35:40
Speaker 1: completely is screaming stabbing him over and over and over again,
35:46
Speaker 1: which does happen in the game. And I saw the
35:49
Speaker 1: next day a lot of people were like, this is
35:50
Speaker 1: she should get an Emmy for this, this performance, and
35:54
Speaker 1: it was very you know, I think the first time
35:57
Speaker 1: I watched it, I was like, oh, so caught up
35:59
Speaker 1: in but I have cried at other other watches because
36:02
Speaker 1: it's so upsetting, Like it's so like seeing her so
36:08
Speaker 1: visceral about it. It's so hurt. And he did have
36:11
Speaker 1: that David did to have that conversation with her where
36:13
Speaker 1: he's like, you've got a violent heart. I have one too.
36:16
Speaker 1: I see you in me like I see me and
36:19
Speaker 1: you and all of this really upsetting stuff that you
36:24
Speaker 1: can tell is like getting in her head. And does
36:29
Speaker 1: he say there's no fear in love, which is such
36:32
Speaker 1: an upsetting, upsetting line. Um, but this was like, you know,
36:39
Speaker 1: again Ellie didn't need saving. They did say in the
36:43
Speaker 1: after the show thing like you know she it was
36:46
Speaker 1: like an emotional saving but not like this, and I
36:52
Speaker 1: do love she uses that infected trick. It's so smart
36:57
Speaker 1: like that she was. It was a very show of
37:00
Speaker 1: intelligence during a very horrific time when they're about to
37:03
Speaker 1: chop her up into pieces and eat her. I love
37:06
Speaker 1: the guy and Ellie Elliot is the girl who broke
37:09
Speaker 1: your finger. That's one of my favorite lines, the little
37:11
Speaker 1: girl who broke your finger, because he was so embarrassed,
37:14
Speaker 1: like what am I going to tell the others? What
37:16
Speaker 1: will I say? And she's like, oh, tell him? But
37:19
Speaker 1: then you know, you have the line from the showrunner,
37:23
Speaker 1: Craig Meisen, who was like, you know, as much as
37:25
Speaker 1: we love her, we have to be a little scared
37:26
Speaker 1: of her. And that is something I've said a million times.
37:29
Speaker 1: Ellie is so she's got a lot of like curiosity
37:31
Speaker 1: and innocence, and she's a child, and I think it's
37:33
Speaker 1: important people remember she's a child, because I think they forget.
37:36
Speaker 1: And I'll have more to say about that as well.
37:38
Speaker 1: But she's terrifying, like I wouldn't mess with her. She
37:42
Speaker 1: will kill you. She will kill you. And then yeah,
37:50
Speaker 1: you do see kind of this is another example of trauma.
37:53
Speaker 1: What does it take to survive in this world? And it,
37:56
Speaker 1: as they said in that like aftershow thing, it scars
37:59
Speaker 1: her in a way that forever changes her. It's kind
38:00
Speaker 1: of like Riley when Riley died. This is the thing
38:03
Speaker 1: that stay with her and this whole idea that they
38:05
Speaker 1: are very very much hammering home of like Ellie having
38:10
Speaker 1: this violent heart of being turning to violence or that's
38:12
Speaker 1: the only way she can survive, or or things like that.
38:15
Speaker 1: And again, just like Joel and the big thing that
38:22
Speaker 1: happens here's you know, finally Joel calls her baby girl,
38:25
Speaker 1: which is something that he called his daughter. He hasn't
38:28
Speaker 1: used it for twenty years. This is the first time,
38:31
Speaker 1: and that's just like the turning point of all He's
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Speaker 1: finally okay, this is like a daughter figure to me.
38:38
Speaker 1: She clings to him. It's like I need some kind
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Speaker 1: of comfort. It's a very it's one of my favorite
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Speaker 1: scenes in the game. It's very upsetting, but it's very
38:46
Speaker 1: well done. And you know, after again that kind of
38:51
Speaker 1: whole talk about what I can't fail and seeing this
38:54
Speaker 1: that's definitely definitely setting somethings up. I also want to
38:59
Speaker 1: just call out the sets. This was really on point
39:03
Speaker 1: with the game. It was very beautiful, slash terrifying, kind
39:08
Speaker 1: of wintry landscape was really good. But yeah, that's it's
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Speaker 1: so funny because it's like only sixty minutes, but they
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Speaker 1: packed so much into the sixty minutes. It was full
39:21
Speaker 1: of actions, very quick, it was. It was and so
39:23
Speaker 1: many like there was a lot of like exclamations of disgust.
39:29
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. It cost a lot of conversation.
39:34
Speaker 1: I do have a couple of random things. One is,
39:37
Speaker 1: did she lose her pun book in the game. She
39:39
Speaker 1: doesn't lose her pun book, but he did not pick
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Speaker 1: up her backpack, so I don't know about that. I'm
39:44
Speaker 1: sure they grabbed it. I hope so. And also, Samantha
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Speaker 1: and I took a BuzzFeed quiz, very legitimate, yes, BuzzFeed
39:54
Speaker 1: quiz about what character we would be, and I got
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Speaker 1: frank oh and I was Tess, Okay, I'll excellent. Actually,
40:02
Speaker 1: everyone I've talked to about this has gotten a different character.
40:05
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Mum. I didn't mention in the previous episode
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Speaker 1: how important that Aha song is take on me to
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Speaker 1: the series, but just to mention that in there. Here's
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Speaker 1: my up next. If you don't want anything, I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna spoil anything, but if you don't want anything, you
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Speaker 1: can you can click off and return. Next time, there
40:26
Speaker 1: will be a certain animal appearance per hips. Maybe Ashley Johnson,
40:32
Speaker 1: who I realized in the like previous episode, I just
40:35
Speaker 1: said her name and didn't say anything else about her.
40:37
Speaker 1: She's the voice actor of Ellie. Just know Ashley Johnson,
40:41
Speaker 1: and she's somewhat infamous. She is a child actor that's
40:45
Speaker 1: been around for a very very long time. She was
40:47
Speaker 1: in very quickly for the original Avengers as a waitress.
40:53
Speaker 1: But she is a very distinctive voice. Yes so, and
40:57
Speaker 1: it's never like she's had it since childhood. Like there's
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Speaker 1: a very distinct way that you when you watch these
41:03
Speaker 1: family sitcoms, you know you've heard this voice. Yes, yes,
41:08
Speaker 1: and if you know after this ends and you're looking
41:10
Speaker 1: for more kinds sometime or mentioned it before. But you
41:13
Speaker 1: can see a lot of like them filming, and she
41:15
Speaker 1: does the filming the games and she does the like
41:18
Speaker 1: acting and body movements and everything. But it's really cool
41:21
Speaker 1: to see her do it. And she's great. She's great.
41:25
Speaker 1: Um yeah, apparently she's a huge d and yes, I know,
41:29
Speaker 1: yes I do. Also, look, this is my vague hand.
41:34
Speaker 1: I promise that they are setting some things up. Okay,
41:36
Speaker 1: like they are really setting but yeah, it's the end
41:42
Speaker 1: of the next episode. Is that's it? I know I
41:48
Speaker 1: would cry. I know we will have another clip of that.
41:52
Speaker 1: That's what you're into. No, it's gonna be oh my gosh,
41:56
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. But we hope that you have
41:58
Speaker 1: been enjoying these You've watched the show, played the game,
42:01
Speaker 1: none of the above, because we have. I have, definitely.
42:05
Speaker 1: I hope we have loved doing that. Yes we have,
42:08
Speaker 1: and I'll miss them. I'll miss them greatly. Um. But yes,
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Speaker 1: we will be back next week with our final litution.
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