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The Black Beast of Snake Mountain - Remote Viewing with Gary Spikes, Sr. · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: So so Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Cryptid Huntress.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in to our remote viewing show this evening where
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  Speaker 2: we have a really incredible remote viewing target for you
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  Speaker 2: guys tonight. And I happen to have my good friend, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Gary Spike Sr. here with me tonight as my co-host.
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  Speaker 2: And we are going to be diving into a rather peculiar,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, cryptid out of Vermont And it's called The
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  Speaker 2: Black Beast of Snake Mountain. Now, if you guys are
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  Speaker 2: not familiar with this one, you're going to learn all
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  Speaker 2: about it tonight. And we have some pretty incredible remote
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  Speaker 2: viewing data to go over. And, of course, Gary and
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  Speaker 2: I have our own opinions as to what this thing is.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a whole lot of interesting anomalies and enigmas
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  Speaker 2: behind this thing. And I think we're going to connect
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  Speaker 2: some more dots tonight. for this target and this cryptid
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  Speaker 2: up in New England actually where they do have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of dog men reports up there by the way
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  Speaker 2: so keep that in mind y'all okay keep it in
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  Speaker 2: mind and uh get ready for this wild ride we're
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  Speaker 2: going down the rabbit hole once again like we do
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  Speaker 2: with all the shows and uh and I want to
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  Speaker 2: thank you guys so much for being here uh with
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  Speaker 2: me we had had a show yesterday with Bruce Brown
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  Speaker 2: who's in the chat tonight thank you for being here
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  Speaker 2: Bruce uh we went over Let's see, it was Appalachian reptilians, basically.
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  Speaker 2: And also, Bruce gave us his update on his investigation
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  Speaker 2: into the Patterson Gimlin. Not just the film, but the
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  Speaker 2: whole kitten caboodle over there. And that was a fantastic show. Man,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about all sorts of stuff yesterday. So y'all
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  Speaker 2: go check that out if you missed it. And of course,
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  Speaker 2: I do have Scott Brush coming on Saturday night on
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  Speaker 2: The Hunt. His specialty are urban Bigfoots, okay? And we're
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  Speaker 2: going to get into urban cryptids, those that are seen
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  Speaker 2: in the cities, and we're going to talk about a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot more, of course, but he has a lot of,
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  Speaker 2: he has decades of Bigfoot and cryptid field research under
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  Speaker 2: his belt, okay? So that's going to be another great show,
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  Speaker 2: brand new to the Cryptid Hunter channel. We got Scott
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  Speaker 2: coming on, okay? So, okay, well, let's get into our
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  Speaker 2: show tonight, y'all. If anybody is interested in checking out
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful, guys. I'm super excited about this one. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: excited to have Gary here. Gary's in the chats. Gary
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  Speaker 2: has been a guest on my show. Gary is an
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  Speaker 2: all-around superstar. Okay. 100% superstar on YouTube and with all
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  Speaker 2: the cryptic communities. And now he has his very own
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  Speaker 2: YouTube channel with live shows every Friday night over on
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  Speaker 2: Pops Country Store. Y'all definitely go over there and subscribe
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  Speaker 2: to Gary's channel. All right, so the black beast of
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  Speaker 2: Snake Mountain. Doesn't that sound terrible? Snake Mountain. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I want to put my tent out there,
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  Speaker 2: sleep in a hammock on Snake Mountain. But it's a
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  Speaker 2: savage creature that was said to inhabit the dense woods
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  Speaker 2: of Vermont, often hiding behind barns and houses surrounding Snake Mountain.
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  Speaker 2: This massive beast is covered in dark black fur and
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  Speaker 2: has massive claws. Locals reported hearing blood-curdling howls at night.
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  Speaker 2: They believe that's what this was. And some believe the
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  Speaker 2: black beast is a guardian spirit of nature, fiercely protecting
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  Speaker 2: the forest from those who intend to destroy it. And
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  Speaker 2: while it may be a guardian, those who encountered the
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  Speaker 2: beast were left traumatized and living in fear, including local children.
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  Speaker 2: One encounter involved a woman who In the early 20th century,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, most of these sightings were in the
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  Speaker 2: 1920s and the 1930s. And we're going to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: And they were only for a short while. They're one
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  Speaker 2: of those cryptids that kind of came and it went.
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  Speaker 2: It was here for a very short time and then
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  Speaker 2: it disappeared, basically. But a woman was traveling a winding
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  Speaker 2: road at the base of Snake Mountain. She was pursued
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  Speaker 2: by a terrifying creature running alongside her vehicle. And it
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  Speaker 2: was so fast. when she sped up, it not only
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  Speaker 2: kept up with her vehicle, but it surpassed her vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So this thing was going really fast. She panicked and
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  Speaker 2: she tried to get away from it. And so she
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  Speaker 2: pulled into a farm hoping to get some help from
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  Speaker 2: whoever lived there. And we're going to get into that
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  Speaker 2: story tonight. They actually came out to help her when
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  Speaker 2: she was blowing her horn and they found this thing
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  Speaker 2: on top of her car, clawing its way in, try
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  Speaker 2: to get her.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So So what exactly is the black beast of Snake Mountain?
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  Speaker 2: Is this a dog man, a Bigfoot, a black panther?
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  Speaker 2: Is it a werecat? That's a good one. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know for sure, but I do have some really good
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  Speaker 2: remote viewing data on this. And we have some, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to say expert. I know none of us are experts,
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  Speaker 2: but we've got some pretty good opinions. We got some
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  Speaker 2: educated guesses.
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  Speaker 1: How about that?
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  Speaker 2: I think educated guess is better than being an expert sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: I guess. But we have our own opinions on it.
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  Speaker 2: And by us, I mean Mr. Gary Spikes Sr. And
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  Speaker 2: let me see here. I'm going to try to find,
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  Speaker 2: let me find his bio. Gary, Gary Spikes Sr. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he had his first Bigfoot encounter in 1977 while he
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  Speaker 2: and his kids were camping. An intense encounter, which he
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  Speaker 2: believes happened because he encroached on Bigfoot's territory. His sightings
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  Speaker 2: and encounters continue to this present day. it hit much
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  Speaker 2: closer to home. In fact, he's had several daylight and
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  Speaker 2: nighttime sightings of Bigfoot and dog men on his property
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  Speaker 2: in Oklahoma from discovering them, watching his grandchildren and slapping
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  Speaker 2: on the side of his home at night to experiencing
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  Speaker 2: mind speak and having them pray with him during an emergency.
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  Speaker 2: Gary believes he has been protected by them throughout his
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  Speaker 2: entire life. They may, they might've saved his life once again. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: And we talked about that the last time he came
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  Speaker 2: on the show. And tonight we're talking about the black
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  Speaker 2: beast of Snake Mountain. Not State Mountain. Snake Mountain. Please
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  Speaker 2: help me welcome to the store.
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  Speaker 1: Store?
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  Speaker 2: What is wrong with me tonight? To the show. He's
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  Speaker 2: got a show called Pop's Country Store. Mr. Gary Spikes, Sr. Hey, Gary.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Gary. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: I got tongue-tied as I'll get out tonight. How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Well, with all the problems we already had, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me. I can't believe it. We couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get our sound to work or nothing. And here I
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  Speaker 1: do it every Friday night. So I don't know what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. It's been strange.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? When you do a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: shows like we do, and I know you've been on
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  Speaker 2: my show plenty of times, there's always some kind of
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  Speaker 2: technical glitch. And it's just normal. You know what? That's
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  Speaker 2: the thing. We didn't panic, right, Gary? We don't panic.
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  Speaker 2: We just go with the flow.
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  Speaker 1: We kept working on it until we got it fixed.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. That's just something you've got to deal with
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  Speaker 1: when you're doing a live show. Thank you for having
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  Speaker 1: me come on tonight. Well, thank you. I always enjoy
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  Speaker 1: watching your shows and talking to you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, thank you, Gary. No, we always have a
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  Speaker 2: blast every time you come on the show and And
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  Speaker 2: you're so full of knowledge and experiences. And I thought
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  Speaker 2: about you today. And, you know, I originally, so I
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  Speaker 2: advertised my friend, my buddy Nick was coming on. We
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  Speaker 2: had to reschedule. He called me earlier today. And I
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  Speaker 2: knew that with this topic, you were the first person
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  Speaker 2: I thought of. I was like, you know, this creature
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about tonight has been seen
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  Speaker 2: and experienced coming out of trees. and jumping on people
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  Speaker 2: and grabbing people while they're up in trees, up in
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  Speaker 2: a tree. And I thought about Dog Man Ranch and
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  Speaker 2: the things that we talked about. And so I thought
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  Speaker 2: about you, Gary.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it does in a way sound like a Dog Man,
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  Speaker 1: but in a way it doesn't. That's what, from what
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  Speaker 1: I could research. I not only read the article you
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  Speaker 1: sent me, I tried to research it after that and
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  Speaker 1: find some other things. And It does sound like a
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  Speaker 1: dog man in a way, but in a way it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: I know, right?
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  Speaker 1: The way it just disappeared is what's strange. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it was just that short period of time that it
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  Speaker 1: was noticed by people. And then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: it just disappeared. That doesn't sound like a dogman. That
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  Speaker 1: sounds like, I don't know what that sounds like.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't, you know, and that's another thing that I
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  Speaker 2: thought of too, because you are, you're so open-minded to
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  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff and you've experienced some weird stuff
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  Speaker 2: just like I have. And, uh, they actually discuss how it,
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  Speaker 2: it would just disappear into thin air, you know, and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and that's kind of common for, you know, the Bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: sightings that I've had, uh, the Bigfoot and Dogman and
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff and all these reports we've taken.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they, they, uh, People say they just disappear in
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  Speaker 1: thin air. They really don't. They actually cloak is what
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  Speaker 1: they do. And I never believed it. I never believed
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  Speaker 1: they cloaked until I saw it myself. I saw it
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  Speaker 1: myself two years ago and I said, uh-oh, it is true.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I always thought people were strange thinking that
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  Speaker 1: until I actually saw it myself. And you're right. You
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  Speaker 1: have to have an open mind because there's just so much.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like to use that word, but paranormal or
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, Dogman and Bigfoot both
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  Speaker 1: had the abilities that we used to have, but we've lost. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And that's like telepathy and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The mind speak. You and I know that better than
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  Speaker 2: just about anybody. And you use it too. Like you
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  Speaker 2: actually are able to utilize that. I know you and Gene,
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about it during our shows. And you have
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  Speaker 2: actually received plenty of different messages from them. And they've
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  Speaker 2: actually helped you even when you were in distress, having
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  Speaker 2: health problems and things like that and emergencies.
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  Speaker 1: They've been healing on me. And they have saved my
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  Speaker 1: life more than once. Not just Bigfoot, Double Man also.
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  Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times they've saved my life.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a question in there. Sandman asked if we
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  Speaker 1: can change our vibration to do what Bigfoot does. At
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  Speaker 1: one time, Sandman, yes, we could, but I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anybody can anymore. I think we've lost that ability, along
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  Speaker 1: with most of the abilities that they have. Telepathy, yes. Telepathy,
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  Speaker 1: I never can think of that word where it's not the, remote.
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  Speaker 2: Viewing like you are, it's... Astral projection?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Astral projection.
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  Speaker 2: Astral projection.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I can't remember that. We still
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  Speaker 1: have that ability. Some people do. Mm-hmm. And, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you do some research, go back to the Nazis
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  Speaker 1: were researching it and not only mind speak or telepathy,
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  Speaker 1: whichever one you want to call it, but telekinesis, all
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  Speaker 1: of that. We had all those at one time. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the same thing they do. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. They do cloak. I wanted to hear about,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, I'd love to get an update on
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  Speaker 2: everything that's going on at your place because you've got
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  Speaker 2: them around your house. Talking about Dogman and Bigfoot. I
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  Speaker 2: want to hear about the cloaking. You said that you
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  Speaker 2: saw one cloaking. Is that on your property?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was right out here in my backyard. It
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  Speaker 1: was right after my heart attack and my sister was
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  Speaker 1: here taking care of them. And we kept hearing this noise.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just a slow... Walked around the corner of
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  Speaker 1: the barn and there's a limb 30 foot up in
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  Speaker 1: the tree that's just pulling straight down. Just real slow,
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  Speaker 1: pulling down. And when it got down against the limb
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  Speaker 1: below it, it just started vibrating like crazy. But there's
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  Speaker 1: no limb whatsoever. So I walked all the way back
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  Speaker 1: here to the back fence and looked up in that tree,
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  Speaker 1: and I couldn't see anything. There was nothing there that
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  Speaker 1: could pull that. It was still shaking. It was still vibrating.
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  Speaker 1: There was nothing there to be doing it. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: there was no wind, and my sister saw it also.
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  Speaker 1: The next day, that limb was laying about 10 foot
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  Speaker 1: out to the side of the tree, and there was
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  Speaker 1: no way it could have fell out there. The broken
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  Speaker 1: limb was pointed away from the tree. it had thrown
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  Speaker 1: that limb out of the tree.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it was in the tree when it
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  Speaker 2: did it?
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  Speaker 1: Do what?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it was in the tree when it
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  Speaker 2: threw the limb down?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it pulled that limb down. And when it hit
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  Speaker 1: the limb that it was standing on, it just started
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  Speaker 1: shaking it like crazy. And then it broke it on
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  Speaker 1: off and threw it out to the side. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't see it up in there. You could see
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  Speaker 1: up in the tree, but you couldn't see anything there
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  Speaker 1: doing it. But like I said, there was no wind whatsoever. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of it, you know. That was
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  Speaker 1: a stranger. And then here's one that you haven't heard.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and tell it real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, please.
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear it. I was live. I was
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  Speaker 1: live on the show as a co-host.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And I had a stranger come up. Right that way
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  Speaker 1: is my bathroom window. And I keep it open all day.
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  Speaker 1: The curtains open all day. Well, we went live before dark,
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  Speaker 1: so the curtains were still open. And I felt something over.
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  Speaker 1: And you can ask the people who were in chat
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  Speaker 1: that were watching the show. I kept looking that way
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  Speaker 1: because I felt something over there. And all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: I started getting sick, bad sick. And everybody started worrying.
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  Speaker 1: They just wanted me to go to the hospital and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. Even the person that had the show. And
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  Speaker 1: about this time, they had a spirit bridge. And it
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  Speaker 1: went nuts. I mean, it was just outrageous. It started talking,
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  Speaker 1: saying things. Come to find out, it was my alpha
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  Speaker 1: talking through it, trying to get things squared away up here. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: You can ask anybody that was in the chat that night.
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  Speaker 1: They saw it on live show. Then a little bit later,
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  Speaker 1: they kept telling me I need to go to the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, no, I'll be all right. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: alpha sent my dog man up here to run that
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  Speaker 1: stranger off. The dog man ran the stranger off and
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  Speaker 1: healed me right there on the show. And you can
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  Speaker 1: see it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Now, Gary, by stranger, you don't mean
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  Speaker 2: a human stranger. You mean a non-local, say non-local Bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: or dogman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it was Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: A non-resident, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of my regular Bigfoot that lived here. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this. My clan is
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  Speaker 1: still down south. Yeah, Denise saw it. She said right
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  Speaker 1: there in chat, we saw it and were so worried. Now,
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  Speaker 1: My clan is still down south. Mama had her baby December,
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  Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, whatever day that is, 24th. And she's still
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  Speaker 1: not able to travel. So the alpha, I call him
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  Speaker 1: big man, asked me to ask a dog man pack
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  Speaker 1: to watch over me up here. So they're watching over me.
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  Speaker 1: They've run off. According to telepathy, they have run off
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  Speaker 1: several thieves already since they've been here.
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  Speaker 2: Thieves, like human thieves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, human thieves coming in trying to steal some stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They run them off. So, yeah, they're here. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: my clan is still down south until mom was able
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  Speaker 1: to travel. And the dog men have been up here
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  Speaker 1: watching over since they've been gone. I saw one of
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  Speaker 1: the dog men back here on the backside in which
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  Speaker 1: you've heard the howl from the big man. Mm-hmm. Then, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of activity. I'm still getting it.
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  Speaker 1: I had company here. A friend of mine was staying
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  Speaker 1: overnight and we heard them hitting the house. I'd be
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  Speaker 1: live on the show and have them hitting the house
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  Speaker 1: and people in chat could hear it hitting the house.
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  Speaker 1: They do it just to let me know they're here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Sandman and Dogman travel like Bigfoot, but they don't migrate
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  Speaker 1: like people say. They have a certain territory that they've grown.
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  Speaker 1: They will not go into another clan's territory without asking permission.
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  Speaker 1: That's what those X markers are.
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  Speaker 2: It must be a respect thing, and that's what the
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  Speaker 2: Xs are for. I always knew those Xs were a marker,
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  Speaker 2: but it just depends on who you ask. as to
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  Speaker 2: what they are. I heard the lady say one day
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  Speaker 2: that those exes are where they procreate, if you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. So I don't know. There's an X
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  Speaker 2: for every occasion, apparently. I don't know. It just depends.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're right. There's a different structure for different messages.
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  Speaker 1: But the main X's is marking their territory. And if
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  Speaker 1: another clan wants to go into it, then they have
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  Speaker 1: to ask permission to be, if they're respectful. Now, a
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: rogue won't ask, just like the one that zapped me
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that night. He was a rogue. He didn't ask for nothing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: He just, he come up and he was watching me
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: through the window. And I felt him over there. I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: couldn't see him, but I could see him over there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You get rogues that are bad. And then the good
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: ones will take care of it. They'll run them off
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and get rid of them, whatever they... They do whatever
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: they have to. Like I said, the dog may come
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: up and run that one.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Off. Man, I'm with Larry. Larry said that those are
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: some scary guard dogs or something. Some scary guards. I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: forgot what Larry said. Yeah, some scary guard dogs.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, I'd feel safer with those by my house.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm glad you're here. And I've told you before,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: until I was four, I lived a half mile north.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And I've been right here on this place since 71.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: The big man watched over my great grandmother, my grandmother,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: my mother, my aunt, and now me. He's watched over
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: my family for generations. And he will, as soon as
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: he's able to travel, he'll be back up here.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So they don't always migrate all the time, all of them.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: A lot of them stay in place.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they've got a territory like just like a
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: cougar or a bear. You know, it might be a
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: couple hundred miles. Like my plan will go down a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: hundred miles south of here for fresh water during drought season.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: But they're going to follow the food to a certain extent.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And that's their matriarch. Is that how you say it?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Females make the decision where they go and when they go.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: The males do the hunting. But the females are in charge.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Okay. Matriarchal, matriarch society, basically. Matriarch. I don't know how
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to say it either, Gary. My goodness. I never even realized.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to say that either. Matriarchal. We
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: just made up our own words here.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: The females are in charge.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Females are in charge. Well, that's how it goes back
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: for eons. A lot of times. Before modern times, I
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: think women made a lot of the decisions. Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: If you'll notice, a lot of the Native American tribes
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: are that way. Yeah, the men are chiefs. Well, some
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of the women were chiefs too. But a lot of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the tribes, the women made all the pertinent decisions.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's what the war woman is. That's what
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: my shop is named after. My Etsy shop is War
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Woman Goods. The war woman made all the decisions and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: made the ceremonial drinks and decided if a prisoner lived
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: or died Basically.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: And it's not just Native Americans. There were a lot
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: of societies years ago that were that way. And there's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: probably still some that we don't know about. But that's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: what most of your Bigfoot clans are too. Man, that's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: actually good to know. Yeah, because, you know, they're just
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: like we are. They're There are people just like we are,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: just a different race. But they're different, just like we
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: are also.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yes. Well, you know, they're a little hairier, too, than
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: some of us.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: A little bigger, a little hairier. Probably smell a little
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: worse than some of us. Not all of us.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I smelled pretty bad until today. Yeah. Oh, no.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Did you finally take a shower? That's good, Gary.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I took my weekly shower.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. I took mine, too. Okay, so we're
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: good to go. We don't have smell-o-vision over here tonight,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: thank goodness.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Well, that's really interesting. And one of the most famous
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot out there is Patty from the Patterson-Gimlin film. And
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: there's speculation that she was a shaman. They do have shamans.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And they've got other, not all of them are healers.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Some of them are healers, not all of them. They
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: have shamans. They have, just like this, they have different,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: people do different things. And I listened to that show
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the other day. Sometimes I don't get to catch yourselves
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: because I hadn't got home yet. But I lost that,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I listened to that when you and Bruce were talking
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: about Patty. And some of us already knew about the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: plan being wiped out by the hunters before Bruce brought
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that up. Yeah. M.K. Davis had already shown a pool
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of water there that was covered with blood. Yeah. But we,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the people that had new minds speak, a lot of
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: us already knew about Patty's plan being wiped out. And yes,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: one of the babies that got shot was her.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Now, did you ever receive any kind of information about
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: that through the Bigfoots that you're in contact with? Or
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: was it just mostly through the research of MK?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: A friend of mine got the information from the Bigfoot.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: And then she told me and my alpha told me
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit about it. Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I was curious about that because I would assume that
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: there's a network of, you know, even amongst the Bigfoots
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: and amongst the Dodgers, I feel like there's probably a
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: network nationwide, worldwide, potentially.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: They are. All right, to give you an example, when
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I go on my trips to LVL or Alabama, my
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: alpha does not go in. He asks the local fan
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to watch over me. Now, if I go close back
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: down to Brown Springs, he goes with me. But he don't.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: He don't go with me on the long trips, even
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Dog Man Ranch. He has to look for Dog Man
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: down there. And they have. They've tried to heal me
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: while I'm down.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting to think about that
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, you know, because we're talking about the
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: telepathy and the mind speak and everything. It's almost like
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: a different frequency. And they're able to tune in. They
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: don't have cell phones like us. But see, here's the thing.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: All of our natural abilities have kind of been, if
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you want to call it corrupted or replaced would be
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a better term. They've been replaced. You know, instead of
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: using telepathy, we have telephones now.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Right. Okay. But that's what it is. We have turned
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to technology. They didn't. They don't like technology. They don't
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: want nothing to do with it. And truth be known,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: if I could, I would live right out there with them.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I'd be as wild as they are. I'd be a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: lot happier if I lived out there.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Hairier, stinkier, and more free.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. They don't all stink. They're like a stump.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: They've got glands that they let it out when they
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: want to. And all my interactions with them, only twice
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: have I smelled them. Once was many, many years ago.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And then the other one was last year down in Alabama.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And myself and another person were standing there and we
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: smelled what we thought was something dead. But there was
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: no wind to be bringing it to us. And we
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: only smelled it for a little bit. And it went away,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and a little while later, we smell it again. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: they don't stink all the time.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: No, they don't. I haven't smelled... I've smelled some stinky Bigfoots, okay?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I've definitely smelled it before, but it's not like that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: No. And, yeah.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: They just want to get you out of an area, probably, maybe.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Or let you know they're there.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Or.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Well, like we were sitting at camp down there when
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: we smelled that one. I just told it through my
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: speech that we were there to enjoy visiting with people.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: We wasn't going to bother them at all. And they
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: left us alone. Same way that they'll be ill. we
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: were in April we were at LBL and I got
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a picture of one that's the first time I've ever
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: took a picture of one.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Oh man well that's right I've seen your picture actually
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: it's a good one yeah It was kind of maybe
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: hanging out behind a tree.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it kept peeking out behind a tree at us.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And I'm not the only one who saw it. I
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: know you don't care if I tell you. I'm always
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: teasing Roger Williams. Saying, there's one behind you, Roger. And
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: it just shakes him up. Well, this time I said, Roger,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: there's one behind you. And he said, no. Yeah, there
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: really is. And he come up behind me and said,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: show me where. And I was pointing at it, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it peaked out about that time, and Roger said a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: couple bad words that I won't repeat. But he took
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: off up in the woods, and I took a picture
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of it, and then a bunch of us went up
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: in the woods, and we found we had a good
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: tracker with us. I don't have his permission, so I
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: won't use his name. But we found the track where
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it was. Where it had to be. And I've got
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: before and after pictures of that same tree. They're there.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Usually you see them when you're not expecting to. When
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you're not looking for them.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that weekend I was there too. But I was
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: camped out down the road from you guys. That's the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: weekend where We had the invisible entities come running around
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and ambush us at 2 o'clock in the morning. That
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: was that same weekend.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Michael X was there. He said that in chat. You
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: were there. You come up later. In fact, I think
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: you came up while we were out in the woods. Oh, yeah.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: There's Michael. Michael X.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I was there. I came up on Saturday.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Saturday.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: To come see y'all. And it was Friday. It was
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: actually Friday night. I had not slept very much. I
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: was tired because we were up all night. I was
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: up till the sun, about right before the sun came
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: up and getting ambushed, rocks thrown at me and stuff. So, hey,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: that was fun though. That's why we go to these things.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: At least that's why I go. I like, I like it.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we're headed for Alabama next week.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, fun.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: We're camping down in Alabama next week.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, you know, Alabama is where I saw
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: my dog man leaving there that that night when I
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: was hanging out with you. And and this this thing
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: that we're talking about tonight, this black beast, it actually
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: reminds me exactly of that thing that I saw. And
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and I've got some pictures because the way this thing
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: is described sounds exactly like what I saw. It's like
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: almost like a mix between a maybe I'm going to
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: say like potentially a dog man and a black panther.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Or it could just be a Black Panther. The people
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that encountered this thing would have said it was a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Black Panther. Because I think that they would have known
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: what a Black Panther looks like. Don't you, Gary?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a Black Panther would not have been able
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to catch that car and jump up on the roof
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: like that. A Black Panther can only run so fast.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: And they can't run 50-something miles an hour.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I bet she was going faster than that. But I
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: don't know. It was 1920s or 30s. It was a
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: long time ago. What was she in a Model T?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I don't know what kind of cars
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: they had back in those days. But I don't know how.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Fast they went. Well, that's back during the Prohibition. So
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: they had some cars with moons.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. Some legends. That's right.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, shoot.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Talking to the girl whose grandfather had a NASCAR team.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: And all the moonshining going on in the North Georgia mountains.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: That's where that stemmed from.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I should have known better. That's like the Great Depression era.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And running moonshine.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And where that happened at, I guarantee you, there were
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of moonshiners.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: You think so?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Up in Vermont? Well, it was in the mountains. You know, actually,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Vermont is... I was trying to figure out what the
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: mountain range is up there. Does the Appalachians extend all
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the way into Vermont? The answer is yes. Actually, the
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Appalachians start up there. They start in New York. It's
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: right there beside New York. I don't know if I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: have a picture.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I've been up in there. Believe me, that is some
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: rough country up in there. Is it? It's beautiful, but
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: it's rough.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Well, here, I've got, I'll just pull this, I'll pull
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: up a couple of these little maps just so we
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: can get an idea of what we're talking about tonight.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I know the audience loves to get some visuals.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And of course, we're talking about Snake Mountain tonight. And
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the reason that it's called Snake Mountain is take a
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: wild guess. Because there's snakes on it. Okay.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Rattlesnakes.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: They say that actually before it was Snake Mountain, they
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: called it Rattlesnake Mountain.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Rattlesnake Mountain. Let's see here. I found it. cave
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: somebody found a cave up in there some boys and
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: they went down in there and they found I can't
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: remember how many I think it was 1500 and something
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: rattlesnakes they killed down in that cave.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Oh god oh well they had them some nice boots
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: made I'm sure man that is really scary well that was.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Back when there was a bounty on the rattlesnakes.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Oh that's why that's why the rattlesnake population got decimated
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: kind of You know, honestly, there's, I know the rattlesnakes
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: are back. We got plenty of them in Georgia. But
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: for a while, the rattlesnakes were actually losing their rattles, Gary.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And they were not getting, they didn't, you couldn't find
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: like big rattles on them because they were, they were
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, they weren't getting rattles on them anymore.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: So they wouldn't make noise because they were getting, they
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: were getting taken out. And it was giving their location
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: away by predators. And by predators, I mean humans.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And king snake. There is a few more predators for
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the rattlesnake. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: King snakes are wonderful. By the way, if anybody wants
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: to keep the poisonous snakes away, especially if you live
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: on a farm or by a lake, make sure you
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: have some king snakes out there. That'll help. Unfortunately, my
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: German shepherd would attack the king snakes, too, not knowing better.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: She couldn't tell the difference. So she would go after
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the king snake and Zoe. Both my dogs did. But anyways,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I digress. Well, this is a map of actually the
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Appalachian Mountains right here, and they extend way far north,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: farther north of Vermont. And if anybody's wondering, Vermont, I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: don't know if y'all can see my cursor, but right
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: here where my cursor is, right on the corner, it's
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: like the Appalachians and the Adirondacks right beside it. And
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I want to say these are called the Green Mountains.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Is that what that is? I can't remember.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, Upper Green Mountains in Vermont. It says
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: it right there.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: The Green Mountains.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: The third picture says Upper Green Mountains.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, Upper Green Mountains.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Good eye, Gary.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Good eye. Okay.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Well, it's an actually beautiful, beautiful place. Beautiful mountains. I mean,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: those are snow-capped right there. Probably gets a little bit
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: cooler up there than it does down here in the
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: south side of the Appalachians. Of course, there are tales
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: of many different types of cryptids out of here. including
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: lots of dogman reports in New England. And the big W,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: if you guys know what the W is, it's kind
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: of like Wendy's to go, if y'all know what that means.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: The way I say it is the W and ends
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: with go. I won't say it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: W-go.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: The W-go. W and ends with go. Yes.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Well, there's several different cryptids from this area. But those are,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: it's very mountainous. I've never been to Vermont. It is
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful. But it definitely does look a lot like
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: the Appalachians here in Georgia. It looks about the same
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: as it does down here.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful if it ain't covered with snow and you're
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: driving a sim.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. And I was surprised to know that Vermont
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: actually has like seven national parks or something. To be
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: such a small state, it's a tiny state compared to
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: places like, even like Georgia.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: But it has plenty of state parks and national parks
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: out there, which is kind of cool. So that means
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of land for cryptids to live on. And
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of wilderness out there. And that's the
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: home of lumberjacks back in the day, Gary. And the
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: lumberjacks definitely have some tales of some strange creatures out there.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: It's not just the lumberjacks, the cryptids. Construction crews for
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the highways and the parks and everything else has got
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: tales of it, if you'll do some investigation. Everybody in
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: there building those parks.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Got a lot of activity.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. And what I'm finding, too, is that now
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: that there's all this growth going on, on out there,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and I think that that's part of what's going on
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: in Vermont, or may have been going on back then, too,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: was building and growth and the critters getting pushed out
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: of their environment. And that's why people were having these
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: encounters with them. It's because there were people out there
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: building houses and the wilderness was not the wilderness anymore.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: It's like the country ain't country no more.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Even if you go to the national parks, they're shrinking in. Well,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: they're not shrinking in acreage-wise, but people are getting into
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: them more, put it that way. There's nowhere you can
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: go now that has, well, you get out there in
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Grand Canyon area and there's probably some that's unexplored, but
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: The majority of the national parks have got people in
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: them all the time.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: That's right. There's always somebody out there. Somebody poking around. But, hey,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I love our national parks. I tell everybody to go,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: but just be careful. Watch your six, okay? Because there's
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: things like this. Oh, go ahead.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: You don't have to be. You can be in a
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: camping area and have activities. in a full camping area
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: with other people around you and have activities. Just like
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: we had 150 people at LBL and I got a
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: picture of one.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yes. They kind of choose to show themselves
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to certain people, I think. And some people they stay
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: hidden from. Pretty good. This thing that we're talking about
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: tonight actually has disappeared right before people's eyes before. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I know we've We've experienced that when we're out in
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the field, you know, there'll be a flash of light
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: and people will be sleeping. And then like there'll be
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: one person sleeping in a hammock who sees a flash
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: of light and looks over and hearing footsteps or hears
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: footsteps and then sees a flash of light and there's
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: no more footsteps. And so it's almost like, well, maybe
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: something had access to portal right there in camp or something.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, we just don't know. It could be anything.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: It's possible. Down there at Brown Springs, we hear that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: cellar door slamming and we think it's what it is
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: it's portal opening and closing.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: That's my conclusion as well but i don't know we
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: had a conversation about a week or two ago with
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: bruce brown who's in who's in here he was my
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: he was my co-host yesterday uh he talked about how
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you know clinging quartz rocks together causes a spark like
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: that too You know, quartz is a conductor. I mean,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: what are the odds? Like, what if they're banging quartz
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: together and accessing portals or something? I know it's kind
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: of out there, but you never know. You never know.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: We have no idea, and we'll probably never know. I mean,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: you had two friends walk into a portal one time,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: didn't you?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I did, yes. And they both passed away since then, too.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody that I've... heard about that has been into a
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: portal has passed away not long after.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Really? Well, one of those gentlemen had at least gone
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: into two, gone into at least two that we know of,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and knowingly went into another one. He didn't mean to.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: He didn't mean to with the first one, but he
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: recognized that there was something very off. And another friend
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: was with them, and sometimes she's in the chats here,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: but another friend was with them, and so she can
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: attest to that. And so, yeah, and those are at
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: national parks, okay? So we've got to always be aware
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: of your surroundings and environmental changes and energetic changes and
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: things like that.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, the one we saw, myself, several people
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: saw it. and myself and another fellow started walking towards you.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: We got about 40 yards from it, and we both
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: had the same feeling at the exact same time. We
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: both just come to a dead stop and started backing up.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: It was just pure evil through that hole. Really? We
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: could feel it. So, yeah, we just stopped, and we
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: just started backing up. We were staying away from it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: It was pure evil. Mm-hmm.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's a good thing that whatever was projecting
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: that dark feeling to you guys, it was probably protecting
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: your lives. It was keeping you alive is what that was.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And if we'd have walked on up to that
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: portal blade, there's no telling what would happen. I mean,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: it was big. There was five other people saw it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: And it was during the night. It was just a
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: low one area. It was bigger than this room I'm
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: sitting in. But the funny part was we felt it
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: at the exact same moment. We didn't even discuss it.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: We both stopped and now at the same moment said
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: that's evil and started backing up. It hit us both
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: at the same time.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Gosh, that was so smart.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: We turned around and we backed up.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't turn your back on it. Well, you know,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you never know what's going to grab you. and I
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: know this sounds really scary and it makes people like,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: it deters people from probably wanting to go in the woods,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: but you never know. There could be an arm. I mean,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I've heard stories, you know, my friend, Mark Maycheck, Kryptonville, who,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: who also passed away recently. He, he watched, or he
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: told a story. I don't know if he, he saw
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: this and said, I can't remember. So I can't quote,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: don't quote me on this, but, but he talked about
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: either he saw this or someone that he knew watched
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: as a hand, a portal opened up in a national park.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And an arm came out and it said, gotcha. And
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: it grabbed at somebody. It had a human voice that
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: spoke English that had an arm that came out of
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: a portal that said, gotcha.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I've heard that too. That's terrifying. And, you know, that
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: made it give me a thought. We were talking earlier
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: about this creature, Snake Mountain, just disappeared. And nobody had
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: any records of it or saw it again. Maybe that's
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: what happened. Maybe it went into a portal.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I have some interesting intel on all that. Actually,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: it's not only intel somebody gave me. It's just what
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I think. I was doing some research on a bunch
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: of different cryptids from that time period. There are several
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: that showed up around that same time and then they
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: disappeared and they were never seen again. Now, the 1920s
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: were a very ripe time for Bigfoot kidnappings and Bigfoot
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: attacks on people. Now, if, and I don't know exactly,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: it didn't give it the exact year that this happened,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: like where the woman's car got chased, but it was
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: sometime in between the twenties and 1930.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Twenties and thirties. And, and so she, so that happened
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: to her in the twenties and thirties in 1924 is
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: when the ape Canyon attack happened. And when the Albert
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Osman kidnapping happened, up in Washington. Now this is actually Vermont.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: So it's a different side of the country, but this
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: was happening kind of simultaneously within the same decade, uh,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: that these two or these three events happen, uh, where
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: there's strange creatures were being seen and not, not to
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: mention all the different sightings of wild men and, uh,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: all sorts of other cryptids. Okay. But 1924 was a
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: very fertile year for cryptid encounters for whatever reason. And, um,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And so I'm saying that because we have these cryptids
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: that come in and out of reality, come in and
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: out of our reality. You know, they're seen for about
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: a week, maybe two weeks, and then they're never seen again.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: For example, the Wolf Woman of Mobile, Alabama. That's one
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: of them. Another one is Spring Hill Jack. OK, things
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: like those, like you hear about them and then you
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: never hear about them again. They're here for a week
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: and they're gone forever. Now my remote viewing data has
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: some interesting information in here because the data actually suggests
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: that there's some kind of something going on with the
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: timelines merging and then separating.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: And I know that sounds weird too, right? But nothing's
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: too weird on this channel. But that's actually part of
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: my remote viewing data was like the timelines converging and
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: then separating. Almost like maybe the timelines are coming together
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: and we're they're intersecting or something. And then they, then
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: we switched timelines, Gary.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe, maybe. Back then there was the only
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: way that you could spread the news was by word
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: of mouth or by newspaper and newspaper and letters were
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: so slow and they made so much fun of you
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: that people wouldn't talk about it. But maybe, you know,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: A lot more probably happened. It just was not reported,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. Oh, yeah. When was it?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I can't remember when it was. The guy was horses
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: and wagon. And he had somebody with him that his
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: hired hand got unalive. And he was lucky to get
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: out of there. And that was supposedly by a dog mess.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Werewolf Springs, Montgomery Bell State Park.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Is that what it was? Yeah, Tennessee. I don't remember
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: the story.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: It was Tennessee. I'm pretty sure that was Werewolf Springs.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: See, that didn't get reported for a long time. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: There were several. I want to say there were a
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: couple of different attacks. And that was actually blamed on
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: some wolf men, some dog-headed men that escaped a circus
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: train derailment, I think, initially. But, you know, I actually
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: looked into going there. And the problem with researching that
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: area is that I was told that once you get there,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: you have to hike in like 10, 15, 20 miles
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: to get to where Werewolf Springs is. you can't access
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: it by a car. You have to, you have to
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: walk on foot to get there. Can you imagine like
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: if you were to get in a pickle out there,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: you'd be screwed.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I'm sorry.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but yeah. Anything. Snake bites.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I do have a question. Okay. Did you remote view
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: your snake mountain?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did. This, Yeah. It is really interesting.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Well, let me, let me go down some information here.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Cause I want to, I want to go over a
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: couple of the encounters that were had, uh, with this thing.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: It's called the black beast of snake mountain, not specifying
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: what the black beast is.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Nobody really knows. And the fact this thing is like large,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: it's a predator. It has long sharp claws and it's
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: pitch black and it shows up at night.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Uh, It targets isolated rural residents and it has calculated precision.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: The most detailed account came from, it's actually a gentleman
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: that wrote an encounter book.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: And it's called the Vermont Monster Guide. But he recounts
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: when a woman, so his name is Joseph Citro. In
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: case you guys want to look that up. He talks
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: about a woman was coming home one night after she
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: was visiting with her neighbor. She traveled along. a winding
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: road that carved around the base of Snake Mountain, the
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: creature began pursuing her vehicle. And what started as a
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: terrifying chase quickly escalated into something more sinister when she
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: realized whatever this beast was, was not letting up and
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: it was keeping pace with her automobile. So she tried
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: to speed up, but it was like actually outpacing her car, Gary.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: So not only was it like going the same speed
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: as her, it was getting ahead of her car. And
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: what does that remind you of? Because to me, I've
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: heard stories about dogmen doing that.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dogman or Bigfoot, either one. Well, put it this way,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I haven't tried to outrun a dogman, but I had
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a Bigfoot keeping up with me at 53 mile an hour. Wow. 53.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: That's pretty, that's pretty flipping fast.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm sure a dog man can probably do the
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: same thing.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: And there's no, there's no hope of you outrunning a
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: dog man.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think. But well, she said that she got,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: she was pretty scared and she saw that she couldn't
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: outrun it. So she pulled into the first farm that
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: she encountered. And so she pulled in there and as
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: she was turning, the thing leaped on top of her car.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: And so she was like driving into this property. And
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure the property owners just love that. But the
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: thing started, the story goes like it started clawing at
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: the roof of her car, like at the roof of
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: her vehicle. And so she was frantically honking her horn,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: hoping that the family that lived at the farm would hear.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: And so she pulled up to their house and this
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: thing was still in her car, attacking her car. And
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: so the family came outside. They stood on the front
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: porch and they put the floodlight on. And they saw,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: they said, okay, this is what I said. The creature
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: was so terrifying. The family immediately fled back inside the house,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: screaming in terror. And the men of the house ran
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: and got their firearms, went and got their shotguns. And
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: by the time they came out, the creature was gone. And, um,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: they said that they call it the black beast. It
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: had disappeared by then. And, uh, and so of course
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: the woman was all shaken up and, um, it just
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: left that woman traumatized and the witnesses traumatized that, but
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: you know, the, the crazy thing about it is like,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I couldn't find a description of what they were describing
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: of what it was. They just, they gave like a
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: vague description of it, but there wasn't like a concrete
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: description with them.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: But, uh, But I have some other descriptions from some
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: other people here. But they said, okay, so here's another thing.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: It actually terrorized children in the community. And the young
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: men that worked on the farms and hunters in the
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: area as well, they were getting kind of terrorized by
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: this thing. It said the beast would drop down from
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: the tree limbs without warning. And it would startle hunters
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: and people working on farms and the kids. And it
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: disappeared just as fast as it appeared. Yeah.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: And the thing is, it never hurt anybody. It would
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: come in and scare them and then leave. But there's
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: no report of it ever hurting anyone. Yes.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Well, it said that it was a predator, but yet
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: it would be a predator, but we don't know that
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: it took anybody ever. There's no account of that.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's no report of it
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: ever hurting anyone. It just scared them. And that's typical
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: of a dog man. They love to scare people.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: They do. That's right. Yeah, they do. And they like
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: to show their teeth and they like to kind of
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: be ominous and weird. They like to be weird. They're weirdos.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Here's something else. People say they're being aggressive because they're snarling.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: They're not snarling. They're smiling, they're laughing because you're scared
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: to death of them. And it's making them laugh. How
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: does a dog smile? A dog smiles by baring his teeth. Yes.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: That's what that thing did in Alabama. It looked like
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: it was gnashing. I always call it gnashing its teeth
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: at me, but really it was just showing its teeth.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't like it was being aggressive, I don't think.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't take an aggressive stance off of it. It
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: was just showing its teeth, like its lips were curled back.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: It was really weird.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Gary, it was weird. It kind of did because it
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: was just showing and its teeth were so white. And
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: they weren't like huge canine teeth in its mouth, though, too,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: which was weird. And that's why I was like, well,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: maybe that's a panther, but panthers kind of have big teeth, too.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: It was just something I wasn't familiar with what I
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: was looking at, whatever that thing was.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: If a panther opens its mouth, it's going to scream.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: It's not just going to smile at you and go
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: on about its business. Have you ever heard a panther scream?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: It sounds like a woman, kind of. I've heard a
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: lot of things scream in the woods, and it sounds
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: like humans a lot of times.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I want to hear what you found on your remote.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, we're getting there. We're getting there.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Well, there's one other thing too. There was actually an
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: old hotel that burned down in the area. And some
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: people back in, it was built back in 1870. It
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: was called the Grandview Hotel and operated until 1925 when
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: it was destroyed by fire. And only the foundation was
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: left over. And they say that it was actually the
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: same time. It coincided with the same time that these
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: sightings were happening with the black beast of Snake Mountain.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: And so they were thinking, well, maybe that had something
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: to do with that. Maybe the thing burning down had
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: something to do. Maybe they were trying to burn the
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: thing out of its habitat. But I don't know. Maybe
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: that's not a connection. But some people were trying to
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: make that connection to it. And I don't know.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it disappeared. It got burned up to fire.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe so. It could be. That's a good point, too.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Because I would assume it probably burned a lot of
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: the landscape around there, too, being so isolated out in
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: the middle of nowhere like that. Yeah, it probably wasn't
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: easy for the fire trucks to get in there. It
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: probably was volunteers.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Back then, it was the fire trucks. I don't know.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a 20s model fire truck? No.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: There's not much to them. Yeah. They might hold 50
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: gallons of water. Oh, man.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not like high-pressured fire trucks like we have today, probably.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: No.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, that would suck. That would really suck. Well, okay. So, yeah,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: I guess it kind of... I was trying to see,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I was trying to find that information that I had
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: where it just kind of disappeared into thin air, but
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: I don't have it in my notes right here. It's
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: probably one of these tabs I have open on my
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: computer right now, but, but yeah, the, they say that
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: it did disappear into thin air and they also kind
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: of disappeared off the face of the map around the
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: time that that fire happened. They really never saw it again.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: That's what the report said. And I couldn't find anything either.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I searched several articles and couldn't find anything that said
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: anything more after that. That's why I said there was
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: no reports after that.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, well. Oh, you know what? I actually do have
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: some pictures here. Let me share. This is actually Some
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: of the pictures got fire trucks going by my house
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: right now. Matter of fact, there's fire trucks going by
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: my house right now, Gary. I don't know if y'all
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: can hear that.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I hear it. I hear it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: It's just for a theatrical drama for the dramatic effect.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: That's what that is. I did not even hire them
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: to do that or anything. OK, but OK, well, here's well,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: first of all, let's look at these. OK, because the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: way that people described. this creature it sounded kind of
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: like a panther right kind of sounded like a panther
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: a little bit but it also sounded kind of like
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: a dog man potentially and before we get into the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: remote viewing data i did want to just kind of
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: pull this up now this is the dog that i
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: always tell people this is what the head of that
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: thing that i saw in alabama looked like it looked
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: just like that almost exactly it said it had rounded
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: ears with fur on top of his head like behind
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: his ears okay so it looked a lot like that
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: now that looks like a panther doesn't it gary.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the head looks like a panther.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Look at that right there, man. That's wild. Now, that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: is actually a very costly, expensive type of a pit
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: bull that looks like a black panther. I can't remember
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: its name, but they said it was like $ 20, 000 or something.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I remember talking about that a long time ago. But
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: this is what I saw. Look at that. And that.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: It's almost like a pit bull panther bear is what
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: I saw. And so this is kind of what this
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: creature was reminding me of a little bit, actually, was
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: something like that. Almost like a, it could have been
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: a little like a panther, but climb trees. I mean,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: they say dogs can climb trees too, like regular dogs,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I think. But I don't think the dogs would be.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: They can climb so high, but they can't go up
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: a long way.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: No. Well, and they can't drop down from limbs either
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: and drop back up, I don't think. So there's also that.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Well, even a panther can't drop off of a limb
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: and then go back up to that same limb without
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: climbing up the trunk.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: No, that's a good point.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: A dog man can drop straight down and then jump
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: straight back up.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, These are just some pictures that I brought
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: up because it was like, well, you know, kind of
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: exploring the idea of like, could this be a dog man?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Like I said, we haven't gotten to the data yet.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: But we've got, you know, things like this. This is
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: how it was described, Gary. When you look at pictures
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: online of like what the black beast is of Snake Mountain,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: it actually looks like a fluffy, rounded dog man or
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: something is what it looks like. When you look at
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: pictures like that. Now this right here is actually a
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: picture of Snake Mountain. In case you guys are wanting
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: to look at that. And check that out. It's beautiful
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: out there. Oh yeah, I forgot about this. It was
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: funny because I was looking up Snake Mountain today. And
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: this kept coming up. It's a He-Man. Snake Mountain. It's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: like Castle Grayskull. I guess it's not Castle Grayskull. It's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: like the other one. Maybe this is the dark side.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: But it's called Snake Mountain. Snake Mountain. the evil stronghold
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: of Skeletor. So I just included that. I love that.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I think it's great. I miss me some He-Man.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: But here we go with this.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: So I showed you the pictures of the pit bull
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: looking dog, the dog Panthers, the pit bull Panthers. And,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: and this is an actual Panther, which this very well
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: could be a Panther too, Gary. But I would think
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: the locals would know the difference.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: You see the spots underneath it? It's kind of like
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: a jaguar.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a black jaguar.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: That's what it... Wow. That could be a black jaguar
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: or a black panther. But you can see the spots
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: under the fur right there.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: You can. I'll be... Okay. There's that. And here's another
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: picture of that dog again.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: And in chat, they're saying it's a, well, I've done
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of it now. Cane.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Cane Corso. Cane Corso.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Cane Corso. Yeah.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: I used to say Cane. I thought I was being
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: all French or something. But yeah, Cane Corso. And, but
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I've always, I find this kind of interesting too, because
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, this looks, it just, it looks so much
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: like a panther. I just think it's fascinating.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: The tail looks like a panther.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: It does. I don't know if this is going to be. Oh,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that's a picture of Anubis right there. Of course, it's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: like robotic Anubis. Let me see if I don't know
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: if there's my remote viewing data right there. Yeah, this
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: is for my Patreon. You guys want to go check
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: out my Patreon. But but OK, so this is there's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the panther. There's the dog, another panther or jaguar. And
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: that's where we're going. And of course, the depictions that
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: we find online, if you guys want to go check
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: out the depictions, it looks like a. kind of a short,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: stumpy dog man, just like real furry, okay? Or it
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: could be, I mean, I was wondering if it could
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: be like a bear man, okay? Like this picture right
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: here that I did for the thumbnail, okay? It looks
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: like that, okay? Kind of looks like that. All right, well,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: let's get into the data of this thing, okay? Because
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: what in the world are we working with here? And
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: what happened to this thing? Well, I think the data
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: has a lot of good information here. So some of
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: my stages one through three remote viewing data, the sensory data,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I was given a set of coordinates for this, just
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: some random numbers. And I got a whole lot of data.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: The first three stages, let's go through the sensory data.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: This may or may not make sense to everybody, okay?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: But we're just gonna go over it. Okay, so I
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: got frisky, brisk, active, playful, finicky, smooth, dark, elite, Tiring, exhausted, bold,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: and clever. That's my sensory data. Okay, well, first of all,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: frisky sounds like a cat if you ask me. Okay,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: but I digress. And for my analytic overlay, so that's
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: like me kind of getting these things out of the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: way where like I'm trying to make sense of what
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: the data is kind of a little bit or the
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: sensory data. I wrote cat-like. That was the first thing
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I wrote down, cat or cat-like. Elite Force, Pure Breed, Thoroughbred,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Pure Breed and Thoroughbred, Champion. I wrote Pinnacle. I actually
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: wrote Pentacles and Pinnacle because I couldn't understand what I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: was sensing. I wrote Pinnacle. Upside down, fully loaded. Let's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: just say certified black colored. It's definitely black. And I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: actually wrote down Big Cat. I wrote Big Cat and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: then I wrote Panther and Pitbull, just like those pictures.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: But first of all, I wrote big cat, which I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: find that really interesting. And then I got some more data,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: but I wrote down pounce and bounce. That was like
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: the movement that it was making was like pouncing and bouncing.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: And for my stage three, my drawing was like some
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: trees or something. I was definitely picking up on being
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: in a forest of some sort. And so I wrote
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: some trees. So, so far for my first three stages
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: of data, I'm thinking that this is like a, I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: think it's a cat.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: That's what my data is picking up on so far.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: But we go to the second page.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: The second page for my, part of my sensory data,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: I was picking up that I was, it was summertime.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Whenever I was remote viewing, it was summertime. I was
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: outside the woods in the forest. There were trees, mountains,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: and vegetation. A beautiful landscape. I wrote down something that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: was like unreal beautiful. Like it was absolutely gorgeous. And
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I wrote down national park. Okay, I figured I was
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: at a national park with a lot of resources and
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: natural resources, maybe even the park service. I just felt
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: like I was at a national park. And I picked
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: up on animals. Okay, so animals in a wide open space.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: And then I saw what I wrote down. I wrote
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: down pole barns. Okay, a pole barn. I saw a
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: pole barn and I wrote down pole barn, pole cat. Gary,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: what's a pole cat? You know what a pole cat is,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: don't you?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: A skunk. Skunk.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: That's right. When I was.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: A kid, we didn't call him a skunk. We called
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: him a polecat.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Did you?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that's what my grandmother called me a polecat.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Because they wouldn't touch you with a 10-foot pole?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, but he called me a polecat.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Because you're stinky. I'm just kidding. Probably.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Well, but I was picking up on like a pole.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: So I was definitely outside. I felt like I was
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: in like a national park or somewhere, you know, and,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: and I wrote down a pole barn. I wrote down
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: pole cat, which was weird. And a pole cat is
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: a skunk. Like Gary said, y'all pole cats and they're
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: black and white. By the way. So something that's black
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: with like white stripes on it, that can be significant. Okay. And,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: and then, okay. So my third page of data is,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: This is my last page, by the way. I heard
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I wrote down, don't poke the bear. There's a whole
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: lot of pole cats and pole barns and poking stuff.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I was kind of getting a lot of that kind
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: of data. So I was like, don't poke the bear.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: And and I was picking up on poking and taunting,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: almost like something was getting poked and taunted.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: And and then I wrote down, stay hidden. So analyze this.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I think that there was whatever this target was, whatever
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: this black. beast is i think that people were going
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: after it and they were probably trying to to find
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: it um and uh and maybe even get rid of
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: it okay and uh oh i do think i do
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: think there were people that banded together to go try
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: to find this thing let's see.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: You know one of the articles i found a bunch
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: of them got together and went to try to find
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: it and never could find it.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: That's right they never they could never find it i
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: know i don't know why i didn't put this in
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: my notes Yeah, they got a posse together, my favorite.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to form my own posse one day. I'm
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: going to go look for some of these things. But
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: whatever this is, this black beast, it was staying hidden
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: on purpose because people were trying to find it and
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: go after it. But then I wrote burst on the scene,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: burst on the scene, scene, and then I wrote timeline split.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: And nonlinear split. Timeline split, nonlinear. And then I drew
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: these like all these lines like I was seeing. OK,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: what I was seeing was like an overlap of dimensions
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: or timelines. I know that sounds really weird, but but
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: this is what I drew right here. It was like
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: some arrows going in different direction. And and I wrote
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: I was interpreting this as like timelines. There were all
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: these different timelines and they all converged and they overlapped.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: And I wrote overlapping timelines, dimensional overlap. And and that
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: was the end of the session because I was like,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know, just got real weird. I shut the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: session down because timeline split, nonlinear, overlapping timelines and dimensional overlap. OK,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: so I'm assuming what happened was that. Maybe this thing
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: just kind of came out of nowhere. when the time,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: I know we talk about timelines, we talk about Mandela effects, right?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the layman's terms, right? Y'all, you can
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: tell like with timelines or shifting and stuff by, and
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: it is a vibrational frequency thing, by the way, it
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: could be the earth changing the vibrational frequency. It could
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: be the environment changing the vibrational frequencies. Um, it could
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: be anything, but, uh, But there was definitely, like, they
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: say that in some of these, like, hot spot, like,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: paranormal hot spot hubs, like Skinwalker Ranch, for instance, places
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: that my teams go in your house, your property, Gary.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: It's almost like that's where, like, dimensions are overlapping or something.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: The veil is very thin right there. Yeah. And I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: think that's what's going on with this thing.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: And I had a couple thoughts while you were reading
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: all that up. Oh, yeah?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: What are they?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Wasn't the Wasn't it in the 20s that they were
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: having all those earthquakes back east?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I can look it up.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: That's something that needs to be checked on. I don't
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: remember for sure, but it seemed like up in that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: part of the country they were having a lot of
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: earthquakes back then.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: I had another thought while you were reading all that off.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Maybe. Just maybe somebody had tried to hit that
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: thing with the car at one time, and that's the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: reason it chased her in her car. Yes.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: It could have been. Let's see.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: You know, you shoot at a Bigfoot, then they're going
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: to come after you. Yes. Maybe somebody chased it in
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: the car.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Well, that lady was getting chased in her car, too.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe before that, somebody had
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: chased it in a car. So when it seen her car,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: it chased her to get evil.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Ooh, could have been. And, you know, what I was
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: thinking was, you know, we do have another story of,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: this is list of earthquakes in 1920. I meant to write,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: I put in 1920s, but this is just 1920. And
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: let's see, these are, they don't show any over that
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: part of America. So that's not, that's not what I
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: was trying to find there. But let me see. Let
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: me go back. Let's see.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Earthquake.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: 1924. Yeah, that was back. That was when all these
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot encounters were happening. It was 1924. The Java earthquake.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: No, that's not in America.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: Turkey.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: List of earthquakes.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Huh. Well, there's one up there.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's look at the map. Oh, yeah, there is actually.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Look at that.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Which one is that? There's one right on top of Vermont. Yeah,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: that's right. There's one right there. It's like kind of
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: right on top of. Well, that's actually New York, I think,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: or maybe that's right there in Canada. That's in Canada,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: but it's close by. It's not letting me click on
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: it for some reason.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: That was just a thought that hit me sometime back
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: in that area. There was a lot of earthquakes up
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: in that area. Hmm. Maybe that had something to do
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: with the timeline you were talking about.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: It could have been. What a great, that's a great observation, actually.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: It could have been. It just feels like there's some
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: kind of, I mean, there was a lot of tragedy
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: that happened in the 1920s too, with the Great Depression and, and, uh,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: the poverty that was going on in the United States and, uh,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: you know, food shortages.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: It was real bad up in that area. Yes.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Well, it's, it's, it very well could have been some
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: kind of, I mean, cause we're, we're also talking about
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: the supernatural. I see William in here tonight. You know,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: William came on last weekend and, or was it last weekend?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: I guess it was.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: We were talking about the supernatural versus the, real creatures
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: and stuff and like flesh and bone type of creatures
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: and um there's a definitely there could be a supernatural
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: element to this black beast because of the fact that
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: it kind of disappeared right in front of people so
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: it could there could be a supernatural element to that.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Um yeah it's very possible i mean nobody knows there's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: no way of proving they need.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: Well, according to my data, the first two pages of data,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: it seems like a flesh and bone animal. And it's
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: an animal for sure. I think it's an animal. I'm
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: going to say that I believe that there's two options here,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: but the data is leaning towards a black panther. But
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I think that the black panther would have been identified
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: by one of those people. They would have known it
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: was a black panther.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, too many people back then knew what a panther
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: was and they would have been able to shoot it.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Too many people were excellent hunters back then. They would
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: have been able to find a panther and shoot in.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: But maybe that by listening to what you found on
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: your remote viewing, maybe it was a pet person instead
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: of a dogman.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's an option too. That's something that's become
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: very popular. I was telling, I think it was Eric
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: maybe saying, well, I think that werecats are the new dogmen.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: And by that, by what I mean by that is
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: like dog men are so popular and everybody's talking about them.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: And I mean, we've even had conversations about, are people
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: talking about dog men so much that it's manifesting them
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: and it's like bringing them into our reality more.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: But if it's, if that was a cat person that
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: would explain what you've got in all your investigations, And
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: it would also explain how they were able to just
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: drop down out of a tree and then jump right
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: back up into the tree. But they also had the
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: same abilities that a Bigfoot and Dogman had. They can close. Right.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, it's got all that in there. I mean,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: I even wrote down like what I thought I was
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: seeing was very similar to what I showed the audience. Uh,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: what I showed, it looks like the, the cane Corso
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: pit bull looking thing, that dog. Uh, but also like
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: what I saw in Alabama, which was more, most likely
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: a dog man crouched down in the grass like that.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: It was the size of a bear. I mean, uh,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: the possibility of it being a bear is there too,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: but like, that's not in my data, things that I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: wrote down that we're just going by the data right now.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: So according to the data, it's going to be, a
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: big cat of some sort, either a big cat or
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: a dog man. That's, that's what I have narrowed this
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: down to. And it could be like a cat person.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Could be that too, but.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Like we were talking earlier, we were thinking dog man
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: until I heard your information there. And when I heard,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: when I heard your information, that only did more towards
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: a cat person. Uh-huh.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cat person.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, They've got the same abilities as the dog man.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: They're getting very popular right now. It's not that a
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: ton of people are seeing them, but they're being talked
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: about more now. There was the case out of a
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: state park in Missouri where they had them. We got
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: in a conversation yesterday about some people believe that the
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: reason there's all these lizard man sightings in the Appalachians
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: is because they're remnants of a lizard people cult from
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: the ancient Egyptians that lived here. Prehistory, basically. Things that
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: have been taken out of our history books were never
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: put in there.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, us talking like this made me realize something.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: We were at Brown Springs and we thought it was
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: a big cat stalking us. My son and I saw
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: it up in the tree to start with. And then
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: it stopped us the whole time we were up in
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: the cemetery. And after that, after us talking like we
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: are now, maybe that was a cat person instead of
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: a big cat.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: It could have been. It could have been. I mean,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: how many of these, I mean, that thing that I
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: saw in Alabama could have been a cat person.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: It could have been. It could have been that.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Because it looked more like a panther, but it was
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: the size of a bear. It was huge.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: The cat person is just like the Bigfoot and the Dogman.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: They're different sizes. I mean, you have Dogman that are skinny,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: like a basketball player, same with the Bigfoot. And then
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: you've got the ones that look like muscle builders, you know,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: great big husky guys. And cat person is the same way. Yeah. Wow.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: You probably saw a big muscle builder cat person. Maybe.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't like super muscular. That's the thing, too.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: It looked more like it looked like a skinny. I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: literally called it a skinny bear because I wrote it
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: in my phone. Like I typed it in so I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: wouldn't forget exactly what I was like. I got to
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: remember this. This is weird. And I wrote it down.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: It said skinny bear. a Black Panther African dog skinny bear.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: And it was all in one and I couldn't figure
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: out what it was. And so it was not, it
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't like, you know, we do, I show pictures of
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: like these big muscular dog men and stuff, but that's
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: not what people are always seeing. A lot of times
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: they're scrawny.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: The one that I've seen here to start with is
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: a deer color. He's not black. He's the same color
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: as the deer. And It would be more like a
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: skinny basketball player. He's not muscled up at all. Wow.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: William says, compare what you saw Jessica to the picture
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: I sent you a while ago. Big cat with human
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: hands in the tree. That's what I saw. Like I said,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: it looked like a panther but it wasn't a panther.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: That's why I like showing those pictures of those dogs.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Because that's exactly what it looked like. But it wasn't
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: a dog either. I don't know what it was.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, so. It could have either been a dog man
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: or it could have been a cat person. It was
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: one of the two for sure. Man. We know it
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: was one of the two.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: It was one of, it was something. It was something.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: And thank goodness it didn't come in. Boy, if that
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: thing had come from my truck, I don't know. I
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: would have had to take off. My truck is not
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: very fast.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: I would have been in trouble that night. I would
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: assume that probably would have gone for the tires.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: If that road you were on, you would have been
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: in trouble anyway. There's no way you could have went
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: fast enough on that road.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: And I was going uphill, too. I was going uphill.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: And I was in the middle of nowhere. Middle of nowhere.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Nobody.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: And it was 12 o'clock at night, 1 o'clock. I
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: don't even know what time it was. It was late.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: I was probably not very smart of me, Gary.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: No, no. We didn't even know you left until the
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: next day.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I left. But you know what? I wouldn't have
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: had that experience had I not left when I did.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: That's true, too. Yeah. You wouldn't have had that happen
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: to you. That's right. We didn't even know you left
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: until the next day.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: I know. I took off. I like to dip out.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: I don't say bye sometimes. I said say bye to
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: most people. I try to. But I show some tater
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: logs at them.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you. The only one who left was Mark.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I told Mark and Rebecca I was leaving.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: They do. Wendell knew.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Wendell knew. Oh, he didn't say.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Nothing to the dirty dog. And he ain't in check.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Where's he at? I sent him the link, too.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's going to watch this later.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: We're going to whoop your butt, Wendell. Just kidding. Oh, man,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: we're going to throw some tater logs at him. That's
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: what we're going to do. Thank you, Mike, for being here.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Mr. Moist is here. Mr. Moist? Yes.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: It's Greg.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: Hey, Greg. Mr.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Moist. Oh, gosh. Okay, well, thank you for being here, Greg.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Everybody's in the chat. Thank you, everybody, for being here.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: We have a wonderful chat going tonight. And great people
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: in here, as always. We have the best chat on
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: the internet. I stand by that. Okay, well, you know,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: places like Talladega, you know, where I had that encounter,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: where you've had some encounters. You guys had orbs out
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: there that weekend. Dogman, Bigfoot. I mean, I do believe
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: that those are places where the timelines do converge, I think.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. Maybe it's timelines or dimensions.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: There's ley lines under it, just like at Brown Springs.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: There's ley lines. Ley lines cross at Brown Springs.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: At Brown Springs. That's right. I forgot you live up
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: at Brown Springs. Is that place still open? Didn't they
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: shut it down or something?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: No. It's open? They just shut it down there. They
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: shut the road down for about a week, I think,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: because it flooded. Now, that's their excuse. They claimed it flooded,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: so they shut the road down for a week. But
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: not too many people live on that road before we
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: shut it completely down. Now, it is a body dump
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: down there. Oh, God. We were down there camping one time.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Not a week after we left, they found a body
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: just right up the river. Oh, no.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's terrible. That's terrible.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I remember hearing about that. The two guys got into
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: a fight another time. We had just left down there
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: and two guys got into a fight and one of
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: them killed the other one because he said they were
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: both high force. But he said, I'm going to stick
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: the big foot on you. So the other one killed
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: him before he could stick the big foot on him.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: It was a half mile from where we camped.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: Well, that's okay. So from what I remember Tex telling
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: me a long time ago, he said that that's where
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: the mob dumps bodies. This is for entertainment purposes only.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: But they have a pig farm out there.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Hogs.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: They have hogs out there.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Pig farm.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: A lot of hogs. And we find a lot of
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: dead dogs, too. They breed these fighting dogs. And when
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: they lose, they take them out there and shoot them
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: and leave them laying there. I know it tears me up.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: I had to drag one completely out of camp one
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: time because of that. They had left it right there
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: in camp.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Humans are terrible. They're just absolutely terrible.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Not all of them. Some of us humans are cool.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: I carry everywhere I go because of humans and hogs. Yeah.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: Me too. Me too, actually, Gary.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: And I tell them, when I go out, like to
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: LVL or Talladega or Brown Springs, first thing I do,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: of course, is pray before I get there or right
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: as I get there. But then when I get out
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: of the truck, I tell them out loud that, yes,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: I'm carrying, but it's not because of you. It's because
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: of tweakers and hogs.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Tweakers and hogs. You know, I need to get a
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: T-shirt that says that, too.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: I can't. You've heard the story about the tweaker that
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: pulled down in our camp down there.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, you told me about that.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was unreal. It was terrible.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: I know. Well, we actually, even in some of those areas,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: even out at um talladega they have uh these like
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: religious cults or something where they i forgot what they
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: called them uh off-grid people people live in off-grids like
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: in communities and stuff out there and they have actually
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: committed homicide out there at talladega on unsuspecting people uh
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: in the woods you know pulling people pulling pulling people
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: over to help them with their vehicles and then things
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: go south you know so you gotta be really careful
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: You do.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: That's the same thing down at Brown Springs. You got
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: to be very careful down there. But we did move
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: the camp. We were camping a half mile from the cemetery.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: But there was so much paranormal going on where we
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: were camping. We moved camp four miles down the road.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: And we still get a lot of activity, but not
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: the paranormal like we're having up at the other camp. Oh, man.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Well, it's safety first, though. You got to be safe
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: One of these days, you're going to have to come
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: over here to where I'll take you down there.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm coming. I'm coming. I'll be there. I'll be there.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: I just got to make a plan. Yeah, I need
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: to do like a cross-country trip at some point when
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: I get some time. I'll get some Starlink. How about that?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I'll get some Starlink, and I can do my shows
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: from the road one day.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: I got Starlink, and I need them. Yeah. In fact,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I got two shows. On this camping trip I'm fixing
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: to go on, I've got two shows that week. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to do two of those from Talladega.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you're headed down this way. That's fantastic. I'm
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: so glad you're getting back on the road. Somebody was
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: asking me the other day, is Gary going to be
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: in the next camp out or something? Somebody mentioned you,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't know if Gary's getting
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: back out or not. So I can't remember who that was,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: but I'll find out. We'll talk about it later. I'll remember.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Talladega. But it's not a meet and greet. It's just
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: a small camp out for people that's been invited.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Very nice. That'll be fun.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I said, it's just a small camp out. Sweet. Okay.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Larry says, what's up, Larry? Some of these people could
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: be seeing deep demonic spirits manifesting into dogmen or other cryptids.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Not all, but some of the encounters. And that's true, too.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: We even talked with Barry about the sphere network and
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: how things, visions are kind of projected into your mind sometimes. And,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: you know, these entities, let's call them entities, can kind
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: of shapeshift into anything in your worst fear.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah. The best thing you can do is,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to say it, live your life for
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: God and let God take care of it. Because that's
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: the only way you're going to know if it's a
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: fake picture or if it's for real. Yes.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking about something and I saw this little,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: somebody had sent me a clip of a gentleman that
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: I follow on TikTok, my trusted news source. I hate
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: saying that all the time. It's not really my trusted
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: news source. It's a good joke that I have, but
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: I do get a lot of my, I do get
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: some information from there and I, I, get some tidbits
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: and then I run, you know, do my own research. But,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: but they were saying that there were, you know, there's
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: like data centers and stuff. They're popping up everywhere. This
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: guy was saying that people had reported out of a town.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: I want to say it was in Texas, but I'm
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: not sure. I can't remember where he said it was.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: I think he said Texas. They were, you could hear,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: you could hear the sound of the data center. And
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: it was, you know, when it was powered up, the
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: whole town could hear it. It was making a lot
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: of racket. And, and him and his wife, his wife,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: I think, had gone to a movie theater. And somebody,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: they had gone to a movie theater to see a movie.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: And there were all these people in the movie theater
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: with them. And they heard the, you could hear the
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: sound of the center power down. So they turned the
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: power off for a brief moment. And when they did,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: he looked, he could hear it. Even though they were
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: in the movie theater, they could still hear it. And
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: he said that when it went down, they looked around
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: and everybody in there had on gray t-shirts with numbers
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: on them like they had completely shape-shifted into something different
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: he wasn't even in a movie theater it was like
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: it was almost like he was living in some kind
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: of simulation or something and uh and when the the
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: data center power went down everything then whole environment around
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: him changed even the people and then when they you
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: could hear it power back up it went back to
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: normal and then he said that people down the road
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: like there's a couple eating at a steak steak restaurant
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: now i don't know if this is true i'm just
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: saying I'm kind of going to tie this into projections,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: you know, and the technology. Let's just talk about the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: technology that's out there, too, that can mess with our minds.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: They said there was a couple that was eating at
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: a restaurant. They were eating steak. And when the thing
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: went down, they looked down, they were eating like tofu
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: or something. It wasn't even the steak they thought they
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: were eating. It was something completely different. And when the
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: when the power went down. Now, this could that would
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: make for a great movie. OK. But it was being
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: conveyed as though that was true. Like it really happened
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: to some people.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Well, it's possible. We don't know. A lot of people
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: think that maybe we're living in a world that's not
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: really a world. You know what I mean? Kind of
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: like what you just said. It's all in our minds.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people tell me that. That
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: we're not living like we think we are. Who knows?
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: We won't know. We don't know. All we can do
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: is just live our lives every day and guess. Nobody
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: knows for sure. Like we always say, there is no experts.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: All we can do is tell our experiences and if
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: you do the telepathy, you can tell what you've been
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: told from them and that's all you can do.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: And I always question if I live, I mean, I've
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: been questioning a lot more lately. Do I live in
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: a simulation at this point? Because some of the things
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: that have happened to me are so odd and so weird.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: And it's like, there's really no explanation for a lot
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: of this stuff, even out in the field with these
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: cryptids and the encounters that we're having out there. I've,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: I've been in the thick of it getting surrounded by
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: like invisible entities that were throwing things at us and
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: pushing our vehicles for over an hour. And I'm sitting
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: there looking at my friend, Matt, and I'm like, is
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: this even real? Like, Is this, I know it's really
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: happening right now, but like, are these even, is this
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: a simulation? Or are these ghosts? Or are these, because
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: we couldn't see them. Even with the night vision, we
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: couldn't see anything, but they were there in front of us.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: And I was like, are these paramilitary wearing cloaking technology clothes?
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, it could have been any of that. It
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: could have been Bigfoot.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have been Bigfoot clothes. It could have
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: been Dogman clothes. And like you said, it could have
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: been paramilitary. Who knows? Military had stuff that normal people
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: don't know about for years. Even back when I was
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: in the service back in the 70s, they had things
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: that you are just now finding out that they had
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: back then. And you don't know what they've got. A
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: lot of these UFOs that people are seeing, I guarantee you,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: is military. Air Force, whatever you want to call it. Oh, yeah.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: They've come out and admitted now that a lot of
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: these spacecraft, the triangular crafts and the Tic Tacs, they're
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: all Lockheed Martin and Raytheon. They're all man-made. Everything's fake.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Not that it's fake fake, but it's not ETs out there.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: Alien abductions are not ETs. They're probably humans pretending to
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: be ETs.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah. But I know you've heard this, and
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: I know everybody else has. Eisenhower made a deal with
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: them that they could get so many people a year.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: They just had to bring them back when they were
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: done with them. And how many presidents since then have
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: done that? Exactly.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a book on my shelf right now
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: I haven't read, Project Serpo. Okay, that's another one. It's
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: like a foreign exchange program. Except it's alien exchange program.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. With our military. A lot of people say the
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: same thing. Maybe they're underwater instead of out in space.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: I think they are.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Who knows what's down in the deep oceans.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: That's what the president said. And that's what all these
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: Congress people are saying as well. It's a. Yeah, it's
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: in our oceans. I've questioned before, too. Is outer space
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: just the ocean?
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: It could be.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: The only thing we can do is go by that
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got to believe in something because they're wanting us
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: to fall for anything right now, Gary.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I think. You got to believe in that
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: and believe what it says.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we know they exist.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: We know they exist. Yes. All these things do exist.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: It's very real. But there's also like this whole thing
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: that's going on right now where everything's been corrupted and
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: kind of used as weapons, weaponized, let's just say. including
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: our fear.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: That's right. Your fear is your worst enemy. They use
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: it against you. I mean, not just... There's Cindy. Cindy
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: finally made it. Hey, Cindy. Not only do the cryptids
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: use the fear against you, the government uses the fear
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: against you. Even your old friends use your fear against you. Yeah.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Yes. Well, you know what I do? We're going to
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: take that fear and we're going to use it to
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: our benefit. Use our own fear. I like to take
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: whatever scares the hell out of me and I use
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: it to my benefit. I run straight towards it a
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: lot of times. Because there's always an adventure in it
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's terrible. I shouldn't say that.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, facing your fears.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: And it works, too. I mean, as a kid, I
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: was scared to death of heights. And guess what happened
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: to me? I had to work on four inches of ice.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Had to work derricks in the oil field. Scared to death.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: But when I come down off that rig that day,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: I was no longer scared of heights.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Oh God. I see. That's one thing that I'm always
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: going to be scared of. Probably your heights. I love
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: roller coasters, but I don't like, I get sweaty palms
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: just thinking about it. So that's what you just had
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: to go and.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Get up there. Yeah. You just got to face your fears.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: You get up there and if you're scared of heights,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: go get on something high and just stand there and
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: open your eyes and look and, It won't be too
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: long until you're not scared of the pipes anymore.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: I just get up there and be like, this is
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: all a simulation. It's not real. That would be me.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: It's not real.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: We don't know what's real and what's not real anymore.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: I know, especially with this AI and stuff. It's getting
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: to be outrageous. It really is.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Get on Facebook and everything you look at
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: is AI now. It is. But most of it, you
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: can actually tell it's AI. Like one today, it showed semi-red.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: And you can tell it was AI. I mean, just
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: by looking at it, you knew it was AI. Yeah.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, my thumbnails are AI, okay? I'm not
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: going to get an up-close picture of a dog man
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: anytime soon, y'all, okay?
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: But they're ours.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: The furthest extent I'd extend AI is just thumbnails and stuff.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: I'm trying my best not to get too deep into
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: it because it is blurring the lines between fantasy and reality.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: We've already got enough of that out there.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I don't use AI at all. Blazer is the producer
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: for my show. He does all the thumbnails and everything else.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: He uses AI. I don't use any kind of AI whatsoever.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Blazer. Thank you for being here tonight.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: I saw him in the chat a while ago. He's
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: good at it.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. He's good at it. He's a producer
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: on our show. I have no idea how to do
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: what he does. If I lose Blazer, my show will
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: get shut down because I don't know how to do it.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: And I got to give a shout out to Midwest Nightwatchers,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: Jane and Gerald. Yes.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Jane and Gerald.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: They have got us. They've got help getting my show started.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Gerald made this picture this behind me. I mean, Lori
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: ordered the tapestry, but Gerald made the picture. I love that. Yeah.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: Gerald wrote the closing song for our show. Sandy wrote
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: the intro for our show. Both of them did a
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: great job on the song. I'm on their CSI.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I love your... Your shows are very fun
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: to watch, by the way. And I'm super proud of
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: you and all the wonderful ladies. Cindy's on your show, too.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: Cindy's in the chat right now.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cindy's on the show. Lori's on the show. Mark
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: is on the show.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: And my show, I tell everybody to start a show.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not a preacher. But if God tells me to
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: say something about him, I'm going to say something about God.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: But our show is informative, and it's also to have fun.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: That's what we're there for, to have fun, and I
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: want chat to have fun. As long as you stay,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: if you don't get out of line and get rude
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: to somebody, you're fine. Just have some fun. And while
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: we're on the subject, I am going to make a
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: plug on the show. This Friday, tomorrow night, 6 Central,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: we will be having a drawing. Our guest tomorrow is
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: Stan Standing Stones. Yeah, we've reached 250 subscribers, so we're
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: having a drawing at the end of the show. I
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: don't know what Cindy's giving away. Cindy's got the prize,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: but you don't have to hit her about what it is.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: But we are having a drawing tomorrow night at the
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: end of the show, so be sure to come in
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: and We had one at 150. We had one at 250.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: We're going to have another drone at 500 shows.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: Congratulations. That's huge. That's a big deal. Yeah. That's great.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: I thank everybody for coming in. Oh, Amy said we
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: got 262 now. I haven't looked today. But, yeah.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Well, we've had four shows now, I think, and we're
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: already grown that much. So I appreciate everybody that's coming
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: in and watching the shows. We're having a pretty good
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: look and I'm going to keep it that way or
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: try to. We are. I've got guests lined up for
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: every night all the way to Christmas, except for one.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. I think I might be on that
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: schedule somewhere.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: You are. You're on that schedule. Let me, I can
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: tell you in just a second. I got it right here.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: It's not anytime soon, I don't think. It might be
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: next month.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. September 25th.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: September 25th. I'm going to be on there. I saw
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: my calendar.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: Yep. September 4th, I don't have a guest. We're going
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: to have a surprise guest. Because we're going to be
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: out of town. And December 25th, we don't have a guest.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: We're just going to have a Christmas party. On our show.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so cool. That'll be fun. Oh my gosh. Well,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you, you are, I'm the last minute queen.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: I just recently decided to start booking guests ahead of
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: time on my show. I always, I call people the
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: day of my shows. A lot of times I'm like, Hey,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: you want to hop on? Just like I did today.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Okay. She called me an hour ahead of time. So
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: do you want to come on? I did.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: I did. Well, you know, the other thing about my shows,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: I get all my stuff together and I get all
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: my research done and stuff. And then I'm like, all right,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: who's the best fit for my show tonight? Who should
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: I ask? And the worst people could say is no,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: you know, any of my friends or research friends, you know.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Unless something's going on, I'll never say no.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, you're on my short list. I will go
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: to you for sure. I do, and I have. I do.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: It always works out for me.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: November, I'll start getting guests for next year. Mm-hmm. I've
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: already got three or four lined up. I just hadn't
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: scheduled them yet. And one of them is out there
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: in chat.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: We have great chat tonight. Great chat. No, you're not, Mike.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: I saw that comment. You're one of the first, actually.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: I will give myself a pat on the back. I
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: do have the rest of this month and most of
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: next month But what is today? Well, it's the end
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: of this month already.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: But next month, I've got completely booked every Saturday night.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: In part, most of the weekdays, too. I do. I
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: got them booked.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: You have to. Another thing is, too, you've got, what,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: four shows a week? You have to schedule for four shows.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: I do. I've only got one a week. And at first,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: we were just going to do two shows a month.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: But I had so many guests lined up, I said,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: we might as well just go ahead and do a
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: show every week. And it's Cindy and Lori's who want
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: to talk me even into having a show.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to have four shows a week here
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: pretty soon, Gary. Just wait. Oh, no.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I can't get four shows a week.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: You may go to two. Listen, you might. I never
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: thought I'd have four shows a week. It just depends.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: If something happens to me, Cindy will have to take
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: over anyway.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh. You know, I love doing these shows so much.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: I learn so much. I have fun. I get to
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: hang out with my friends like yourself. I mean, I
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: just have so much fun. And yeah, it gets a
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: little tiring, but it's fun.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: That is what it's all about. Yeah, our shows are informational.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: And there's one of my best friends, Mr. G. How
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: are you doing? But we're going to have fun on
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: our show. So if you're not accepting that you want
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: to have fun or maybe even talk about God, We
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: do have prayer at the end of every show. We've
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: got a prayers list on our Facebook page and it
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: streams across the bottom of the page. If you're not
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: into that, then sorry, I hate to lose you, but
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: don't come to my show because we're going to do it.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. It's always fun. Great. Queen of the fabulous podcast.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: You're so silly. Thank you for being here. Uh, Yeah,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: I highly recommend your podcast for everybody to come in there.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: And it's a great place for everybody just to hang
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: out and have fun and to catch up with our
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: friends at the end of the week. And it's always
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: a good time. Yeah, these are like support groups.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: It would always be an hour and a half unless
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: I already know that Cedar Creek Bottoms is going to
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: have a show. Because I will not step on their show.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: They come on at 8 p.m. And I'm going to
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: give everybody, get off in time for everybody to make
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: it to their show. And I plug all my friend's shows. Yours,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Cedar Creek, Oddcast Podcast. I plug all my friend's shows
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: on my channel.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you. That is so sweet. You are a very,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: you're such a dedicated moderator too, Gary. And I really
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: appreciate you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: so much. And it's always a treat getting to see
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: you in person. I've run into you at least twice,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: two or three times now.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's three times now. Twice at LBL. No,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: once at LBL and twice in Alabama.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: Alabama. That's right. We have fun.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to be down there again pretty soon. Oh, man. Yes.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you're coming down. Are you
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: coming down to Alabama for our thing we're doing? Mark's
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: going to be speaking there. No, I ain't.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: No? No? In October, we have a three-day Bigfoot festival
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: at Honobby, Oklahoma. And we'll have a booth there. Oh,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: I want to come there. It's the same weekend as Cornwallis.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: You need to come to Honobby.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's Saturday. Come up, come to Hanobi Friday and
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: then go to Port Lawrence Saturday.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. That's a lot of travel. I don't
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: know if I can make that, but I will. Hey,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe next year I'll be able to do that.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: Or the next time they have an event because, you know,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: John Ventaventure lives up there. And I think Cindy Goodrace
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: up that way too. And Tanya at the museum.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Tanya's just right up the road. Yeah.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: I hadn't met her yet.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: And, uh, Yeah, we're going to go this year. We're
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: going to get down there Thursday and set up. And
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: then we're going to go to the museum. And then
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: the festival is Friday, Saturday, and Sunday morning.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get up there when I can
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: go to Brown Springs. That's where I want to go.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: I want to go do the scary stuff.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: Brown Springs. I'll tell you this. I won't go to
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: the Cemetery of the Nightingale.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Let you go, but, well, with other people. Yeah, I
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: wouldn't go by myself. No, you don't want to go
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: up there by yourself.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: No, I won't go by myself. I bet I can
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: find somebody to come up right up there with me, though.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: I bet my buddy Matt will come.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: I know somebody that's wanting to go there, too, and
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: they'll come up and camp with us, too.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: But I won't go up there after the last time
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: I went was December. I'll do it further in the daytime,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: but I won't do it over nighttime. I hope I
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: can continue hearing you. My earbuds just went dead. Uh-oh. Okay.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if... Gary, can you hear me? Yeah.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: All right. Okay.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: You can hear me. Well, I want to thank some
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: people real quick because I got a super sticker. Jim Weaverling,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for super sticker. I appreciate you
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: being here. Thank you so much for your support. That's amazing.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Also, Tricia Ann, thank you for
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: being a member of the Hunt Club tonight. And Amy Alo,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for gifting the Crypto Hunters membership
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: just now, too. That is so cool. You guys are awesome.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate that support. Amy is one of the
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: sweetest girls you'll ever meet. She comes to my show
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: all the time. She does a lot for our show.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Amy. I know. I appreciate that. Here, let
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: me pull this up.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of shows, I guess I want to thank you,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: first of all, for being here tonight, Gary, and especially
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: last minute. That was fun getting to catch up with you.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: And and I know we're not we're not going to
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: be here all night. It's a school night. OK, so
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: I got to get my son to bed. And I
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: know we're I don't know. I'm getting old. I got
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: to go to bed. I just still haven't gotten my
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: sleep schedule fixed since my kid went back to school.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you're getting old. My kids are older
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: than you. I'm getting old.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: I'm an old lady. I'm an old lady these days.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: I feel old, but sometimes. But we're going to, listen,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: you got your show tomorrow night. Who is your guest
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night?
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: Standing Stones.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: Standing Stones. That's right.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we'll be on at 6 Central tomorrow night.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: 6 Central.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: 6 Central.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: Well, it's Pops Country Store. It doesn't say podcast on there.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: It's just Pops Country Store on YouTube, y'all. And so please, everybody,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: go over and subscribe to Pops Country Store and be
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: there tomorrow night. I think it's 7 o'clock Eastern. Is
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: it 6 or 7?
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it's 6 Central, 7 Eastern. And we also
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: have a Facebook group page, too, if they want to join.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, perfect. I need to make sure that I'm a
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: part of that. I don't know if I'm on her
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: Facebook page or not.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: I think you are. Am I?
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'll double check after the show tonight. I'll definitely check. But, well,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: how about this? Okay, so everybody go subscribe and tune
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: in to Pops Country Store every Friday night. And to
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: summarize our show tonight, okay, because I know we're here
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: about the Black Beast of Snake Mountain tonight, Gary. Do
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: you have any final thoughts on this? I mean, I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: personally think that this creature, which is probably not there
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: anymore because they said it didn't really show back up
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: after the 1930s. I think this is a panther. It's
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: either a panther or a dogman, maybe a feline humanoid.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you think?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you. It's not there anymore. It
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: hasn't been there since, like you said, the 30s. But
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: it's either a dogman or a catman. I'm leaning more to,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: after watching remote dude, I'm leaning more towards a cat man.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: I think you're right.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: Even one of them's got the agility to drop out
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: of a tree and then just jump right back up
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: into the tree without having to go up the trunk.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: A panther would have to go up the trunk. And
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: if a panther was going to drop down on kids,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: it would do more than just a girl.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: Exactly. it's almost like it had some human intelligence to it.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to say like human isn't like dog, man. I,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: you know, people think the dog may have some human
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: intelligence a little bit human like intelligence. Maybe I'm with you.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: I think it could be a cat person too, but
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: you know, that was never on my bingo card.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: Like that was never even in the, like my, my thought,
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: it was not even in my thoughts. Like I didn't
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: even know that was a possibility for some of these
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: creatures out there, but it does seem to be that's,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: that's what the data is pointing to. For the remote
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: viewing session.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: What they're pointing to is a cat person.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: It is. Yeah.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: Like a panther person.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: Even more than a dog man. Yeah. It is. And
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: a cat person would be able to run like that.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: And like I said, it would drop down and scare kids,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: or people. But if it was a panther, a panther
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: drops down out of a tree like that, it's not
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: going to scare them. It's going to damage them.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: It's going to eat them.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: Well, there's so many accounts of people who have been
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: like hunters and just even that poor lady that was
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: walking her dogs up in North Carolina, Miss Hamilton. Bridget
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: Hamilton got attacked by something. I think it came down
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: from a tree. I think she got attacked by a cat.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: A big cat. But see, some people think it was
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: a dog man jumping down from a tree. Dog men
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: sit in trees too.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: Well, that's like that woman here in Oklahoma. They claimed
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: it was a dog man there, but It wasn't. It
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: was just a dog.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: It was just a dog.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: How common is it for dogs to climb trees and stuff?
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: They climb a little ways, right?
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: They can go up so high, but they can't go
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: up very high in a tree. What they're doing, they're
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: not really climbing. They're running up the trunk.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: Running up the trunk.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: They're not dropping down from limbs.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: No, they're not dropping down from limbs. They don't even
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: go very high up the trunk. I'm not going to
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: say positive because I don't know, but the highest I've
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: ever seen one go was less than 10 foot. They
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: just run up the trunk and then turn and jump back.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: I have seen that. Wow. But I've never seen one
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: go up and sit on a limb and drop down
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: on people.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: No, me neither. I've seen some videos of like hunting
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: dogs that like scaled a tree trying to get a rabbit.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they were. I don't know what
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: rabbits climbed. I don't know what they were going for.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: But it didn't get very far. Raccoons. That's probably what
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: it was. Coon hunting.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: A coon dog will go up, that's what I said,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: a coon dog will go up by 10 foot, but
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: then he turns and just drops back down. They can't
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: go up there and get up in the limbs to
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: go after the coon, where the coon's at.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: I should have known that. I should have known that. See,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: you can tell I don't go coon hunting. I have
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: a hunting dog, though. My dog is a hunting dog.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: But he just hunts ice cream and pup cups these days.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. A beagle would hunt rabbits, and you know, you
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: got different dogs for different things. Foxhounds, beagles for rabbits,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: bird dogs for birds, and coonhounds, they're bred to hunt coons.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: My son used to raise them and sell them. And
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: they would go up, like I said, partially, but they
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: can't go up there and just sit on a limb
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: like a cat can. Now, it's like Eddie said right there,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: he had a coon dog that could climb if the
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: branches were low enough. But they can't, you know, about
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: 10 foot is usually about it, and then they're coming
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: back down. They're not going to go up there and
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: lay on a limb and wait on you to come
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: under you and then jump out.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just saw a comment from Jean. So she
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: just asked if I, okay, first of all, Michigan Salmon,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for that super sticker. I appreciate
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: you so much. That is very kind of you, and
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: thank you for your support. I appreciate you always being here.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Jean was asking, Jessica, have you
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: thought about doing a Google search for circus train wrecks
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: in the area where these creatures were reported? I did
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: think about that and I did not do that today,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: but I just pulled it up and I did a
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: show last week. I had Robbie Raines on here and
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: we were looking in the, I think it was last week,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: talking about the Beeman monster. And where's that out of? Indiana,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: I think. And the story behind that was like, well,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: it's a descendant from a 12-foot-tall gorilla that came out
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: of a train wreck from a circus, a circus train wreck.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: And we looked it up live on air. Gary, I
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: was shocked at all the train wrecks that involve circus
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: performers and circus animals throughout those days. So here, I'm
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: going to pull this up. I just found this. Thank you, Gene.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: That's a great point. And let's look, because there have
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: been some major train wrecks. There was at least one
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: in Vermont. Let's check this out.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it back in the 20s?
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: Well, this, oh, that says 1887. Right here, the Hartford
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: Railroad disaster. Let me pull this up. A list of
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: circus train wrecks. I mean, this is terrible. Known train wrecks.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: This starts in the 1870s. Look at all these. This is, wow,
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: can y'all see that? Yeah, y'all can see that.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: Let me just kind of go, okay, here we go.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: The 1920s, around, let's say 1920, we got Canada, Indiana, Kansas, California, Texas, Toronto.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: Why is this? Ohio, actually. Minnesota, California. Yeah, I don't
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: see any in Vermont. Here, let's hit continue. I mean,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: it is amazing how many circus wrecks there have been.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: I guess that was it. Let me go back. Yeah,
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: it tells you how many people died, like how many
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: humans were killed and how many animals as well. Some
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: of those. Look at that, 179 people injured in the
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: Indiana crash in Hammond. Let's click on that.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Circuses were a huge deal back in the day, Gary.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: That was probably one of the main sources of annual
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: entertainment that would come through these cities, I would think.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: And they had elephants and all sorts of different exotic
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: animals and stuff. And I wonder, too, is that how
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: some of these hyenas... We had hyenas that showed up
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: in the Appalachian Mountains and stuff. Maybe they... We're a
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: product of... Even some of these hyena dogmen.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe there's some kind of connection to that from some
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: of these circus wrecks. I don't know.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: Something to think about.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: I can't keep up with all the chat over here.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: And let's see. Years ago, train wrecks lost animals. Enough animals...
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: There'll be a small breeding population today. And that's very true.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: Could be.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: Well, that's very interesting. And thank you for that suggestion there, Gene.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: Well, y'all, it is getting late. I've had a blast. Gary,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here tonight. And we
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: will all be over at Pop's Country Store tomorrow night
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: at 7 p.m. Eastern, 6 Central. Y'all better be there.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: Be square. Thank you for having me on.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: Of course. Of course. Well, please be safe out there, Pops.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: Be safe and have a safe trip down to Alabama.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: And we'll keep in touch. I want you to come
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: back on the show as soon as you can.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. Everybody have a good night. All right.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Gary. All right, everybody. Have a wonderful night.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody who gave super stickers again tonight.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: And Tricia and thank you for being a member of
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: the Hunt Club tonight. Jim Weaverling, Amy, thank you so much.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: And Michigan. salmon thank you guys so much for all
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: your support thank you to all my moderators for being
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: here and uh and of course you guys there are
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: links in the description box to pop's country store if
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: you guys want to go over there if you haven't
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: subscribed please do and uh and i will see you
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: guys back here on saturday night we have scott uh
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: brush coming on the show and uh and he is
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about urban bigfoot is his thing
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: and he has decades of bigfoot field research under his
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: belt and i'm sure he's encountered plenty of other weird
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: things out in those woods too So y'all come see me.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: Uh, everybody, please stay safe out there. Keep your head
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: on a swivel. Don't live in fear.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and Gary, thanks again. All right, y'all. I'll
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: see y'all next time.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: Bye. See you, Gary.