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483 - Is Our Identity Angst Holding Us Back? - @littlesaigon.official, @discoverlittlesaigon · The Vietnamese with Kenneth Nguyen

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the Vietnamese podcast and a little psych official and discover a little second and LA for everybody, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We today wanted to talk about this idea of getting together and figuring out
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, this is an episode of The Beneath's podcast, but I'm here with two biggest content creators in SoCal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think big is, okay, it's just smaller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, you don't think you're one of the, which is the louder ones.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bigger ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is active.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's bigger than you can crisp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're here to find more bigger ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to say humble all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the time they'll be humble, it's not me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't make content, it's the platform.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, this is about platform.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is an episode about platform.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is because like you have a platform called the Vietnamese podcast that you bring on all voices from all across the globe to talk about their achievements and what they input into culture and their upbringing, their life, their journey, this whole bits, all bits and pieces and you bring all these fragments together, you know, of the bigger puzzle of what happened after.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because everybody wants to talk about the after.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, no, and we're stuck in that and then we're stuck in that and that's why we're here today because we want to get out of this I want to talk about the evolution of the Vietnamese culture now inside of Vietnam It's already happening because no we can't talk about we have the we've been talking about the after we talk about the now Who's doing what and you brought it very here and then now still meeting people doing now, right and now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is now gonna do for the future?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't don't you have to work on the now and then I'll just produce and that's why these conversation has to happen because if you don't talk about now the generation is growing up trying to figure this out have to hear about what's happening now or how we feel now about what was the past going forward, correct?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is all very confusing because no matter where you live throughout the globe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Being Vietnamese and trying to understand now that, you know, you group American, Australian, German, French, you know, whatever you came from, or just in Vietnam itself being like, okay, every sense of, there've always been come to being Vietnamese, of course, there've been no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's speak out the obvious, okay, I'll be comfortable in California versus I am in Indiana, because I'm fucking from California, you know, but it's a comfort level, so it's this state the obvious, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, how do we now feel comfortable about calling yourselves Vietnamese, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And culture?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are we so obsessed with this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're obsessed with because everybody's here has at one time or another had an identity problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, find out who you really are, what you want to be and, you know, because it's like that question you're conscious of, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to be when you grow up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't fucking know, you know, you
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some kids have an automatic answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be asking how to fire him in, fucking poor star, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but none of us had the answer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was in New York or the weekend and I was doing this thing called Stories We Carry with Columbia University and we brought the community on the East Coast, Vietnamese East Coast together to talk about creativity and just being around all of these Vietnamese people I thought about you guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm lying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought deeply.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like the contrast of how comfortable you are and I am being in so-called, the powers and the strength and numbers that we experience very different from the East Coast or Eastern European Vietnamese is very, very different.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So then this conversation
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[SPEAKER_03]: and agenda and agenda is what I want the branding aspect of Vietnam to like grow and then we have this conversation we're like how do you make a grow when you don't know where the here is don't we don't have a platform we don't have an agenda we don't have a council we don't have a governing body to really push whatever
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[SPEAKER_03]: whatever sort of fragmentation is happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the odd thing is, like, outside our community, they think our community is so united, so uplifting, so kumbaya, so together, and trying to help each other, which way, which there's a point to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are, you know, we could have this conversation, we're willing to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, let each other down, but as far as like the the the the perception that we entirely just get together, there's so many organizations that are on opposite of each other share, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like like anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How did you feel about that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a couple things like Chris is opening statement when he says like we're trying to figure out what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got so fragmented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like when you're removed from the mother and I'm like how we were like something broke in our identity and we've been trying to figure out
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[SPEAKER_00]: how to gather that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we built cities, we built Litterseggarms to help at least like live day to day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then now we've gotten better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we reached a point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can think like, okay, so what's next creatively or like we've, we're not hungry anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But something broke when we left our main team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think also what Chris said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot the other point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he says like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: everyone thinks that little seconds so united to me people from here don't see it but to me like you guys are if you're a decent person and you work well with others and you like function in this community you're not going to get left behind like even when I last my job immediately either whether it was Chris or the guy down the street or someone else saying to need a job here at my market do you need a job in my book of shop?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Gorapide, Santa Ana, like, you're not left behind in Little Shagong, you know, like, um, the resources here are immense more than any place else, like, people get off of cruises from Vancouver and then, you're in for a taste of Vietnam so badly that they flood Little Shagong with their last days here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They take, they go south on the way instead of North going home immediately because they, like, want a taste of,
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[SPEAKER_00]: what is built and made here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think like before and oh and what tends to like back then I used to think like right now you're thinking globally and internationally with vids, but then there was a point when maybe that's jumping the gun because remember back then I would ask like what about the other Southeast Asians and you would tell me like we have to fix what's in our backyard first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so cow did we fix the brokenness that our fragments yet
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the word broken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's it's about it being broken or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it just modified it in some way and with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is way and went, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can argue is broken like I can argue is that we won't remove from Vietnam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just get that straight, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because some people say escape, left, or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody got removed, because we removed me that jacked it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can argue that, so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But our families choose to leave, of whatever circumstances, now we have a choice to do what we need to do, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And nobody's getting booted anywhere here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They choose to leave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what's growing up, that's what we were always talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We chose to leave our own culture at one point in another in our life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get rejected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I maybe wasn't accepted in our minds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't accepted, but nobody booted me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say, you don't belong with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like a fucking me, me changa, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they said, yeah, you act very white.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You act very banana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You act very fucking coconut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you wanna call it, I'm mucked up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All these things, you regroup up with hearing to ourselves, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because why we acclimate to the American culture and society, and, you know, being like, okay, I'm going to California.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like surfing, I like skating, like cars, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: is that to not Vietnamese?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I was in Vietnam at the beginning of the year and I have very close friends say, you guys are addicted to identity angst.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You guys are addicted to like, are you can talk about is identity?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where is the creation of the future?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are you doing to like, move the needle to create?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And how I'll bring some stories and
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a musician out in New York, her name is Hien, and Hien is a Hungarian-born vocalist, musician, went to Berkeley, out in the East Coast, amazing musician.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's just creating.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's taken vocal sounds from the past, and she's putting it on modern music, and she's singing Hungarian lyrics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: beautiful, future forward creation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dujan, the film director is from Czech Republic, and he created this really cool film that is talking about like markets being like, like a full lot of talk of Czech Republic, where Vietnamese people buy and sell fake goods.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And how is like, these are cool stories, they're doing stuff,
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[SPEAKER_03]: But they're beloved in Czech Republic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Vietnamese community is like, he said that there's 100,000 or 200,000 people, but they're beloved in the Czech Republic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was really thinking about when you put all of these stories together, if we can see a glimpse of what other people are experiencing, maybe it might help us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, see, I'm going to go, I want to play off of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you say that would be love it, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that you can talk about most communities in America and given even Westminster Garden Grove, I don't care, San Diego, San Jose, New Orleans, Texas, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're now beloved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're part of the community.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they're now beloved as your brothers is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when it's 70s, 80s, 90s, they were being chased out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were being like, oh, you don't belong here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're now their beloved because we found out we found out we found out we found our way to as good people as we are,
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[SPEAKER_01]: entrepreneurs, you know, a good nature of helping, and as violent as we are, confrontational, you know, abrasive, you know, it all combines of what our tenacity is about what we want to be doing, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't belong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We made a place, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's no more Chinatowns growing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's little pockets of like you said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They made a marketplace to serve their community, but as
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, like you said, it's a hub for fake goods.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like how New York has canal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How, you know, Chinatown, LA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a city street or whatever you want to call it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get your goods anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, those like on had its hub for whatever sourcing you wanted it to do, growing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if you're, you know, there's supply for every state out of this, you know, from nail supplies to just, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: products, goods that those states didn't have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This became a national distribution for not just goods, but culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many times did you hear in the 80s and 90s, all the states looked up to California?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They might not have a minute, but like the fashion, the music.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you see, right, Instagram now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You see like all these Asian Americans like all over the country talking about how awesome like so call is But it's it's just funny like some of these creators like put it against you know comedy But but the thing is like are we at a standstill right now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I want to know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are we at a standstill?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are we creating new stuff like when I think about Vietnam and fashion in Vietnam?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I see so much growth
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[SPEAKER_03]: And why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because there's so many young people and they just, there's so much creation happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they don't have to worry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have no hang-ups.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't have any hang-ups.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're just creating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Identity voids like we do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so are we stuck in this weird like, uh, uh, well, culture trip or can we break outside of it and go, you know what, fuck?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This like, uh, like being addicted to identity angst, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So should move beyond it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've learned in
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[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't include another age gap in another timeline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Meaning, different gems, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You talk a kid that's 19 in this conversation with the fuck you talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not identified to the Wii.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we just want your old guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of it's like, well, we're an important one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know our war torn parents and we know that we're wondering where the younger ones are going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're an important group, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but is it to who they moved on they say but they don't feel that so important which way is important you say hey you know what we did you know what how how it became or if there wasn't this there wouldn't be that but but matter but the word important that's it's you know that's important like what our parents did is important now you pass it on now what and how many people say what's that important right okay there's a matter there's a matter and the day doesn't matter
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of people that doesn't know how to pivot, that don't know how to not transfer that anger and that trauma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, man, you guys don't understand, it was like this, we get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how many times did you gross and we get it, but dude, it's not us right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now we're at that age where the next generation asks, then the next one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you say the word we, that's why I had to stop you real quick, because I met people that that we don't affect them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not in that combo, and you got this new generation of Vietnamese kids that you have seen, they come from Vietnam, and they've been here for like 5, 10 years and they're just like, you know, I met some people yesterday that like bought a business, like a real thriving restaurant, and oh, she cares about is making more money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Correct, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no like lingering historical issues with her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We now have to get back to creating our own path.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're so great in looking about what others are thinking, what others are feeling, what would the perception of us?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and that's why they say, yeah, you have that angst, you have that thing because you still have that hang of what others think of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but also, there was a time in your life what you didn't give a fuck about what people thought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but how can you reverted?
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know when let's say in let's talk about the 90s in the 90s this everybody knows kid can promote a club's race cars we went to clothing we went to clubs we didn't belong we created Asian clubs Asian nights we created lived in this bubble yes but why because like you know we didn't feel like we belong at the certain clubs that it downtown LA
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[SPEAKER_01]: and we didn't know how to dress right, get right or get in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we could not get in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because remember, back then, the door man could fucking tell you, nah, you're not cool enough, never vertical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you had me, yeah, you got too fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or you got too many guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, put on cam.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why do you bring in all like five guys?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know better than that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or, you know, why do you have five Asian guys with you can, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you get in the order, if you get in the order, yes, if you don't think you have thick skin, let's get you go group of eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three girls, five guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll let the three girls in the five guys away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All night long and hour to go be like fucking 12 30 what a clock for they got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want the I candy in first But look look That's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do those stories matter or to any young people today?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It mattered because sometimes they might not once they leave their area their comfort zone They're now to deal with real life about people like your Asian
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're fit to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll never be right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll never be right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not something I tell them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be white.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They used to say to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm never going to say that to them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But then why do you say that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why do you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why did you just say you'll never be white?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because that's a perspective that you carry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why do you say that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Chris, that's not important to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But obviously Dana just said it and it's important to her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying to stop people transferring that, you're never going to be white.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're never going to be this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how they feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I think because of our genetics, how we look like we will always look like an outsider.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're always, we can be as educated as well-spoken, to have no accent, but you always in something we always, but then that's the question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's whiteness associated with being American.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, maybe not anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, totally does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're living in an enclave.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you come on guys, if you live in Texas like somewhere in like the big cities like Houston, Dallas, no, no, no, no, no being white isn't American thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you kidding me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and that's that's that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't see because we're living here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's why goes back to now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're having conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do we have this idea?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is still going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is still going as we speak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you American or are you white or are you patriotic, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and that's why we have this thing, like where do my allegiance lie to my culture, to my skin color, or to the way I live my life?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, if you are now fully a serviceman, I don't care if you're fireman,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's military, police, or now a service been for city, you know, you just do stuff for the city, okay, and you live this whole American adjacent to whiteness and that people cues that you like, you know what my home fucking culture rejects me, I just lean in, right, but but then in the 80s and 90s, you were the token kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that the view and vision of us, they're not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then when they get here open their business, now they're the minority business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're thriving, yes, because they're serving at minority dish, a bulb of Vietnamese dish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're serving at minority offering to people that aren't this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're thriving, because why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, some people don't care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Most Vietnamese people don't care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Most Japanese people don't care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Most Koreans don't care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing their thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why don't we care?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And why is it so important that we move the culture forward?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And is it an exercise and futility?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because here's what I mean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: While every other people are doing their thing, we're sitting here trying to like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And why do we spend the time on this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You spent your whole life looking at magazine and trying to be something that you look up to aspire to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They say projected and you have your vision board of things how you want, you want that car, you want that wealth, you want that thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just posters, you will it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, going back, like you,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I look at this as a community to be branded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are Vietnamese, we are Vietnamese American.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are from, why is that important in you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's some part of us that always complacent at one time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I don't care about all of it.
18:42
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you, you've heard that one thing with me.
18:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I went through my journey of doing my own shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not giving up to folks about what people thought and to create my own path.
18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: There's many lanes on a freeway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna take a few of them.
18:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes slow time fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna fucking write it all.
18:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes I'm the carpooling with like mine and people we fucking ride this shit together You know me, but on the other hand when I look back at my community and here little silence approaching 50 years, but yet
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody views it as a tourist destination.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And nobody takes pride in the name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They say, oh, we'll go to Lucille, go on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're so fucking, you're so bullseye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was like, I love it.
19:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I can dick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You grew up here, your family made money here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You live in the Guna and the Hills now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you want to look down as like, oh, I'm slumming it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck you, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, so you have this personal, uh, inch to make sure the world knows that,
19:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You, we planted a little flag and an ideological flag here that we can be a part of this and make part of this to others that we exporting our offerings now.
19:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's call it that because grown up drinking ice coffee was weird, but me was a mess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fish sauce was fucking god damn it what the fuck is that you know me, okay?
20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And lapsed it was like What kind of sauce is that you know me?
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so when you grew up all that now like oh man that that looks good What is that now it's a different fragrance?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different smell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different like and they're all willing to cross cultures
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it should be that too little shotgun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I would chew it to everybody that's doing the offerings that make you want to eat stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I want to stop Dan before I keep pushing you did this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You do this.
20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
20:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, let me hear what she was going to say.
20:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me, what were you going to say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to say that shift from when there's also pungent to like, oh, what's that fragrance?
20:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I would attribute that to this place here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first by me shop that started here, this place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The guy rocketed that for the rest of the nation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How?
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[SPEAKER_00]: by a championing it, by not giving up on this sandwich and having a replicated throughout the country, this place did it for sure.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That they all jumped on a bad way, you.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they served a community, it thrived, the community itself shared it with other people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what they're using is there was no intention to make it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What he's saying is economics dictated it.
21:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A need that was served here in this community.
21:12
[SPEAKER_03]: It started to spread out.
21:13
[SPEAKER_03]: But see, that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no intention behind pushing our culture.
21:17
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just happening.
21:18
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just happening.
21:19
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's why now.
21:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do we need to push this so hard?
21:23
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm asking for myself.
21:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm saying like, I'm trying to figure out this formula to say, why are the Koreans doing big things?
21:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is this an episode that I want to do?
21:37
[SPEAKER_03]: This idea of Betui, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we young people, I mean, me and you are different.
21:45
[SPEAKER_03]: But younger people don't like to eat Batu, they're like, oh, that's gross.
21:49
[SPEAKER_03]: But what we don't realize is French Germany.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Italy, all have the same dish, all have a variation of this uncooked, view uncooked young calf.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But why can't we look at it and go,
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is something that we want to engage in and we want to blow and we want to enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's very different from like the European dish of beer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why it's important to have this identity push because the identity is like, okay, like the patates, okay?
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: If you tell somebody in the 90s, E patates, it's fucking liver, right?
22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You tell them, betoi, it's like right now, the name jewel, it's to have an
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[SPEAKER_01]: for a poor and you tell that now I've opened the era where they look bad on sushi you guys you know fish go discuss it we fucking you savages normal people fucking but then you had no boo you had no boo that just flip the flip the script on everybody and same thing with everything else once it becomes like you have to have that person like you hosting
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[SPEAKER_01]: your guests into breaking bread and saying this is how it's done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is how you eat it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what it's made of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You educate them and you push that thing where it's not weird anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And why is it important for us to do that for our community?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you like any business do you scale?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You wanna go vertical, you wanna go 360 with everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, do you want that for our community or do you wanna be this small enclave that?
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, this is a little psych on.
23:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so now we're getting to the heart of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we know that this work is important because it helps scale our image throughout the world.
23:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And when our image is polished and it's presented back to the real big world,
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the main point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When our image is polished to the main world, it makes business and relationships all around the world a lot easier.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot easier.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not looking at as lower, beneath, savages, jungle, whatever that brand and label is, it's now different because we are making it a thing.
23:58
[SPEAKER_03]: But now the question that we had this morning is this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where are we, where is the coalition?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where are we bonding?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where is the platform that we can exchange ideas in a very formal and intentional way?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is what this discussion says.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys are creators, you guys have products.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have something that lean towards like your roots of being Vietnamese, storytelling and product offerings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it's coffee, jelly, drink, candy, a t-shirt, whatever you create that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: represent the DNA of a Vinnie's person, of the Vinnie's culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it comes from here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You brought it here from the motherland, but like now, you bring a fourth your story, you want a place to have that conversation about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why you come up with this product?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you write that story?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you have that song?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you make that movie?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what you're asking is a platform a place, a sum of cohesion where we can all get together, have
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I attempt to do that, that's why I repost other people things that do extraordinary things.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And extraordinary things to me might not be to the wider world extraordinary, but like holy shit, they made a movie, they wrote a book, they're in the fucking museum, they're in the getty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this photographer, that person, all walks of life that never thought that they had acknowledgment from their community.
25:24
[SPEAKER_01]: there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, no, most people don't, they would pass the validation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to your talk about it.
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But it'd be nice to like, oh, wow, they actually, I'm visible to them.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And now taking what's visible and what product you make, let's make it more visible because as a unit,
25:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather do it together and not leave anybody behind and if their intention is right to champion it the right way and not appropriate and take advantage of it, they can always have a platform, right?
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're looking for one cohesive.
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So do the call out and tell them.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Ask the public how we do with this.
25:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, with that to know, can you leave something in the comments?
26:01
[SPEAKER_03]: If you watched this far, you understand how engaged this topic is for the three of us.
26:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, you can tell a little bit about your experience growing up in Denver.
26:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, what you thought of the lack of representation from where you came from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like me and my sister, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: when you're like one of the rich kids in Denver they would get to go to California and they come back and like there's this place called Fuku-Tah and when you go there you're safe like your um your what you need is there things that like match your taste are there it's just it's police and here's some good I brought back and now I'm gonna die my hair like the girls
26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: and OCDG and then we're like, wow, you are so pretty over there, why do you guys have this and we can visit one day, we can visit and then we're like, oh, Bulls, and we're like, oh, your teacher's name is Mr. Newwin.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been fighting for someone's, for me, to say, and then we're for so long.
26:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So did it meet your expectations when you got here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: flooded, flooded it with like safety and like place and like, and then we're just still sad because it's still, it's the closest I can get to Vietnam, you know?
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where a lot of kids that go to Vietnam feel this exact same thing.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So the levels of how you feel comfort in your skin is this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She came from Colorado, her ancestor came here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She felt this and now the kids that grew up here thought, you know, I grew up very American.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Also,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, like, wow, Vietnam, look at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people say that when they go for the first time as an adult and this makes me wonder like I don't know if I'm going to work this right, but I wonder if biologically we people were not supposed to leave their mother land like like our blood probably matches the climate there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're more comfortable our taste buds eat like the things that we were designed right there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've been eating for centuries there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like if a fish from the Pacific Ocean if it somehow got displaced and moved into the Atlantic Ocean it's uncomfortable You know like it's salt level needs the Pacific So I feel like biologically maybe we weren't supposed to leave the motherland.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how we always all feel that like When we get there even if you don't speak it
28:27
[SPEAKER_03]: but there's this other size of not belonging that creates this further push of our culture because we're living on the further most edges of the tundra.
28:37
[SPEAKER_03]: We're living on like the border of where the boundaries are.
28:42
[SPEAKER_03]: So we are experiencing both being able to speak English, understanding Americanism, understanding like the way we do things in America, but at the same time, we're like really plugged in
28:55
[SPEAKER_03]: We're plugged into ringing phones, we're plugged into the way Vietnam is and we're trying to be closer to our motherland.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so frustrating to me so close where I don't want to live in and get any longer.
29:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Me too.
29:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel the same way.
29:08
[SPEAKER_03]: And then people are like, fuck you, go home, go back to the motherland.
29:10
[SPEAKER_03]: But great, gladly.
29:11
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a, yeah, I wasn't born there.
29:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, you know, I got, I got obligations here.
29:16
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've been accused of like, you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, trying to push an agenda of, you know, Vietnam.
29:22
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, no, no, it's simple.
29:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I was not born there.
29:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And I crave and hunger for the way things are said, the way we are accepted in our own bodies.
29:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And we don't have to deal with all of this like, it's hatred coming out.
29:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think people in the Midwest or whatever Vietnamese people, just don't,
29:45
[SPEAKER_03]: to just not acknowledging it.
29:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Cause it's there, you're living through, cause I visit my family in South Carolina and they date white guys or date white women.
29:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you can hear the jokes and I'm like, wait, wait, you gonna take that?
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna take that insult right now, like you can't sit there and I look at them and I'm like, I don't wanna disrupt your happiness, but that's not healthy.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, women dresses different.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in Denver, my sister made the most water down the moment still can't sell it because they don't understand the smells.
30:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the most water down the moment, but here you can go crazy with it.
30:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but the frustration of me, the clash of like, because I am Vietnamese and I, I would like seek more Vietnamese leaders and I look around and what, what you guys did here.
30:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can figure out like, what is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What when I learn what's in you that allowed Frank to create full-taw or Chris to create with a psych official it helps me see oh that's a Vietnamese thing okay so that's in me so I'll see understand who I am more in this wonderful I am but it's so frustrating to a point because like what I am what my mom taught me values of Vietnamese people clash so much with Americanism it clashes all the time so that's why I drive an hour now from LA to be here just to be here
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[SPEAKER_00]: many days of the week.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And then on top of that, another thing is like, in Vietnam, so then we have these events that we go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we all wear our eyes and we all look really good and we all love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then it's weird because in Vietnam, I'm like, Oh, Gar, are you going to wear your eyes?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, give me a white button up.
31:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Give me the white button up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not wearing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a special occasion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that.
31:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So for us, we're like, loud and proud about it.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So we like are we over emphasizing are we to me it's like this like gap that like I am that need me is but I can't be Vietnamese at a university.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me just be safe here in Bolsa and just come to Bolsa because I can't go to Vietnam yet.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So strange for it just.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like it here.
31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I must be for war, no matter where we went in the 90s, when they say, where you from, I say, Vietnam.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say, Orange County, and I say, sat down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is automatic response, because you're just proud to be Vietnamese, right?
31:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you want other people wherever you went.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's another video he's person, and I say, oh, you can have them.
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to talk to you.
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: because there was a lot of times when we did road trips on our racing days, I ended up in Bakersfield, I ended up in fucking, you know, Arizona, so I'm middle of fucking buff a cage somewhere and I like, oh shit, you know I'm like, oh, no, they'll tell me, go over one right now, and we could go there hang out.
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that, you trust that, because they're right now.
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know.
32:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to use a word trust, okay?
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: They just like, you know, there's a kinship of something like a weekend break bread, you know, or familiarity, because I use a word trust very loosely, and that's not something I use trust.
32:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you get a good week when you use it, you know what I mean?
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So I hate to correct you all these things, you know, it's just, you know, things that we've gone through, so I take some of the furniture out, okay?
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, so I'm just saying, but like when you go in a room somewhere at an airport, also you hear Vietnamese, you tend to gravitate to like, oh, yeah, right?
32:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing.
32:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what was in the action where you from said, Vietnamese, you know me?
32:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been Vietnam because I was born of it now.
32:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so today we validated this idea that in order for
33:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Vietnamese people globally to do better business easier to to get deals done that we got to prop up the brand.
33:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you have to have a at least some kind of bridge gateway for whatever product and things that are out there being created.
33:16
[SPEAKER_01]: and we don't know because this is what we're searching, you know, if you guys are on social media, you have something to present, that's legit and you want us to highlight it, talk about it, bring that conversation here, bring that conversation of your confusion, bring that conversation of even what we just talked about, might be just us or it might be a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to know you.
33:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
33:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, on a product and marketing level, I think Chris from Lo's Secondal Fish show is doing the things that are like a material good, right, like hoodies and hats and all the product is the representation of this pride.
33:55
[SPEAKER_03]: For me, it's showcasing human beings that are Vietnamese,
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[SPEAKER_03]: the way they're thinking, the way they're constructing what their values are for the Vietnamese culture, sometimes through the work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, for you, it's really like being on the street walking and experiencing all of this food and all experiencing this like experiencing experiences inside of these brick and mortar places.
34:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's the sitting, it might not be part of that, this particular coffee shop, but like I have more people
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[SPEAKER_01]: really because they enjoy the mud me they're hanging out with Vietnamese they enjoy the culture didn't be back to Vietnam they come to Little Sagan because they visited Vietnam and now they get a still a taste of Vietnam here it's a really good point you bring up and and that
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[SPEAKER_03]: idea of having other people buying like this brand in the L.A. called Jepangeles.
34:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Jepangeles.
34:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I wear a Jepangeles hoodie.
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a hoodie I have a hat.
34:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And why do I wear that?
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's a problem.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: This take back to the prime.
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Wherever we visit on vacation, you go to Paris, you buy a parachute.
34:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
34:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You go to New York.
34:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You buy New York.
35:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not from New York.
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But yet the people who they have here like, oh, should I be where we're from?
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[SPEAKER_01]: or even the toy oh that go we all have a keepsake somewhere we all have something to you know share for memory memory and so now you have more people that's not been there were buying because they came here and visited they ate some stuff their friends their wedding whatever they had a chance to you know enjoy our culture they want to take a piece back
35:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, being that's not just food where they digest it and fucking shit it out the next day and it's something that, you know, it's a candle, it's a cup, you know, me and something to remember their trip like us when we go over vacation, you know, you might take us no global magnet whatever it is, but if you look around Bolsa.
35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Look for a little psych on.
35:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the keepsake you can take back to wherever you came from to make you remember a little psych on Food, it's for you pooping out.
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's for you.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I'm just saying that's what I make a wearable good And we're all good.
35:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes something to keep it.
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I cast tray and the cup something you can take that you can leave there This might trip back in 2026.
36:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm not gonna save toilet papers.
36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, remember this meal, but you were reminded of her mind is on food.
36:13
[SPEAKER_01]: No, because no, if food makes the mark.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, look our biggest Itcheway to those is for food, but look we have jewelry.
36:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We have services.
36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We have tailors here When they love the tailors in Vietnam, we've been offering the tailors here for that price of that quality since since the day one.
36:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what if okay, you know this
36:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't buy any of the things.
36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't find it because we now, so she's been working on a project, we call it L.S.
36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Go.
36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's GoLo's got knee, knee, I'm Joey, okay?
36:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Knee on the church is mean, go, eat, play, play.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Joey Vee.
36:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so it's a project that's gonna launch in a few months.
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't told you about it, but what it is, so now you can discover little psychone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even the people who live here don't know where it, if you ask anybody that's a local,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's the top five?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, where can I get my shirt made?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where can mechanic?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where can I get a seamstress?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where can I get my hair dyed?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who has the best message to us?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even as bountyful as nail hair salon, you always ask for a referral.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, now to ask where they respond, because you can't find that on you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I had to ask Dana during that where can I find I mean it's like a week after that or to Where can I find firecrackers Dana hooked it up and you know, I saved the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I could save the day But but then again, you said you can't go and yelp and yelp because they're illegal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know every it's just something that it's just more accepted here to have and they don't they they turn your eye to it you know and like right in the street over the biggest law for baloo you know didn't get law and there'll be people oh there's the place there there been it for like 35 years okay you get fresh baloo of all days of size and when you want it done right the 18 day the 19 day the 20 day the 19 days of like
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of you know when they're into aquariums they didn't know that there's a bunch of fish still around this area and they sell flower horns they sell certain exotic fishes birds and stuff like that is like really well yeah because why we service our own issue but it's not known.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now to get the word out, the word of go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's go because why we're just going to digitize little second on and if you want to come here and find the best deal and this quality service, but up to the merchant to have that hospitality.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you do let's go in the, because you know, there's like, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 other cities that have this thing, you know, there's a woman that wrote a book on like all the little seconds of of the United States absolutely so it's just something to odd word on a digital directory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that way if you feel the would now with AI, yes, oh, give me that my or give me shot my Honda specialist and now goes to because there's Vietnamese are crazy like how do you how do you update this stuff it's it's something it's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got coders and stuff, you know, and we're going to work with someone's Vietnam, and it's just something for our own niche community.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now is it big?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still being big for it's big here, okay, and it'll serve our community here, but as far as like this is not something where it's an international national play, you know, but it is a national play, because there's
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a full shop in between here and Texas in a desert road somewhere that they serve full because they love that they might serve Chinese food, but that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we see this because why, you know, it's localized tasting, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's to every opportunity like if I'm going to big bear to snowboard ski, I want to know that there's Vietnamese food up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm not saying the bar of here, I'm just glad they make Vietnamese food.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not can even judge it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was not the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, they have to tone it down for the locals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So don't judge it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I must speak on one of the like elevated food.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have a foul restaurant in Beverly Hills, do you think it's going to be $15.99?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The rent is down fucking $40.40.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you pay it because it's the location of where you're at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you're gonna eat for on the beach overlooking the ocean if you're gonna pay I will pay to eat a big fat ball for overlooking the ocean So does that make sense?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so all those guys like do you see the value where you're eating it or just go to the hole in the wall get your 1299 be happy with it Cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have my days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I go for and then my days were I will pay for the the value of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to wrap this up with the call to action.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think all of us agree that there needs to be sort of like a place, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: A platform, and we're going to figure that out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully we want to hear your thoughts about how do we...
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[SPEAKER_03]: coalesce how do we aggregate the community the Vietnamese community globally including in Vietnam our homeland how do we get our brand elevated the brand of the Vietnamese throughout the world to a place where we all can step out of the airport and go you know what I'm Vietnamese so it was good if you feel your Vietnamese I don't care if you're white Vietnamese Mexican Vietnamese Vietnamese if you feel that you want to have this conversation hit up Ken Mi and Dana
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I don't care where you come from and you champion this culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's have that comes here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You even married into this culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me have that conversation with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because I respect those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I respect our culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's bottom line period and there was a walk away from it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you come back one day and that's it.
41:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't have hate for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to do your thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if one day, I'm going to leave that door craft man keys under the mat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on in and you're me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So either way, you don't mean you have the platform for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was in the digital code to open up the day before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have keys anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like, I'm the one with the house of guns.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Call us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back another day, both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, in the day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for listening to the Vietnamese with Kenneth Wynne.
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