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Putin, Ukraine Drones, Vice Squads & FBI Wrong-House Raids · International Flavor: Where the Truth Tastes Better

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  Hello, good morning.
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  Welcome.
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  I am Samuel Trapp.
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  This is International Flavor.
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  Lots of stuff going on.
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  Lots of stuff going on locally.
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  Lots of stuff going on nationally and internationally.
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  I've made one song selection for you today
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  and I think it is, I suppose the
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  word would be, apropos, for the day in
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  the heavy state influence, state actors, state doing
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  what the state always does, take more power.
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  But before we get to that happy crappy,
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  we are going to discuss Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
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  and his interview with Pervy Canal Channel One,
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  Russia.
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  That's definitely Russian-friendly or government-friendly.
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  I believe it's even a government-sponsored.
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  We're waiting for Supreme Court decisions today on
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  birthright citizenship, I think it is.
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  Isn't today the last day they throw out
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  that stuff?
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  Then they go on vacation for six months.
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  That's why they can only do 6%
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  of the cases that are sent to them.
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  They ignore the rest.
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  They ignore as they're always on freaking vacation.
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  That's nonsense.
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  They never do.
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  Well, you're lucky to get, what did they
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  say?
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  It's less than, they don't take any cases.
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  They never do.
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  But that's not the topic for today.
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  It's a minor part of the topic, but
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  in part two of the show, what we're
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  going to do is talk about hopefully the
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  ending of the war in Ukraine.
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  Personally, I think it's going to be done
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  by achieving the goals of the special military
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  operation.
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  Of course, you could call me a Putin
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  shill, if you like, because I'm actually listening
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  to what he has been saying, not only
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  since February 24 of 2022, but since 2007,
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  that we're not going to put up with
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  this.
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  And since certainly to 2014, certainly through Minsk
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  one and Minsk two, very reminiscent of the
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  memorandum of understanding between the United States and
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  Iran.
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  That doesn't mean anything.
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  It's just a piece of paper and it's
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  only too delayed to give us time to
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  rearm and rearm and attack you some more.
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  That is diplomacy, American style.
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  Do you remember the show, Love American Style?
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  I told somebody about this a few months
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  ago.
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  Remember the show, Love American Style, how idiotic
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  it was, but it was, you know, for
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  the day, that was kind of cool.
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  I think it was my mom or my
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  dad.
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  One of them used to watch it and
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  come on at like nine o'clock, 10
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  o'clock and we're all supposed to be
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  in bed, but we never were.
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  It was summertime and we wouldn't go to
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  bed and we'd watch Love American Style.
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  Anyway, a very good show.
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  Putin anyway, gave like a 45-minute interview
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  to the Peter V.
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  Kanal in Moscow.
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  And Pavel Zarubin, I think, is the correspondent
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  or journalist that interviews a young kid and
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  did a reasonably good job.
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  But all you got to do is go
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  in there and give the questions that they're
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  given to you.
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  Because I believe these ones are pretty well
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  framed, at least at this state level.
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  So the core answers.
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  And Putin, I believe, has always been pretty,
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  he's a straightforward kind of guy, right?
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  He seems very personable.
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  I've never met the man.
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  I was in the room next door, damn
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  it, never got invited.
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  But I got, I almost got it.
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  I had it in my hand and they
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  said, not you.
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  I said, wait, I'm the only American here.
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  Come on, you should give it to me.
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  He said, oh no, you're definitely not getting
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  one, is what the guy said to me.
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  And that was crushing because I could have
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  been in the same room with Narendra Modi,
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  Vladimir Putin, a couple others, and I didn't
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  get to make it.
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  But we're going to try again this year
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  in New Delhi.
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  We're going to see if something happens there.
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  Although I don't know if Putin's going to
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  New Delhi.
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  We'll figure that out for the BRICS conference.
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  We'll see.
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  But I'm pretty sure Narendra Modi will be
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  there.
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  Really, the highlight of my day would be
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  to meet somebody like Jaishankar or to meet
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  Sergei Viktorovich Lavrov.
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  Would be really cool to meet one of
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  those two guys.
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  Those are some serious powerhouses of diplomacy.
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  I wish I felt the same about our
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  guys, that I don't believe.
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  Ours are propagandists.
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  And I understand that there's always an air
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  of propaganda to the running of the state.
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  But I don't feel like ours are even
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  remotely honest anymore.
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  They just lie straight to your face.
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  And that's depressing.
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  It's one thing to do things for my
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  protection and to not say something.
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  But outright lies, that drives me batty.
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  I don't like it.
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  Anyway, Putin gave some unusually open answers.
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  And basically, it's like this.
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  They asked him about gas.
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  They asked him about troubles inside of Russia.
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  And I want to go back and check
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  it out and see, because it wasn't that
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  bad last year when I was there.
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  And I want to go and see what
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  it's like now.
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  But basically, Ukraine may be damaging Russian refineries,
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  fuel depots, airports, civilian visible infrastructure.
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  But if Lyman is gone, that's Ukraine.
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  It's gone.
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  96% under Russian control.
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  They even have it down to the number
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  of buildings, according to the Ministry of Defense.
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  They got 11,000, whatever the exact number
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  was, so many buildings in the city of
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  Lyman.
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  And then they have captured all but the
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  last 146, something like that.
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  So they're like 99% done with taking
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  over a very large city of Lyman.
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  And the same thing goes for Konstantinovka, which
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  is 96%.
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  And that's a large city.
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  Sumy is within 10 kilometers.
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  They're going to take Sumy next.
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  And Zaporizhia and Kharkov are coming, too, because
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  they've destroyed logistics line.
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  And so when Putin was saying, he says,
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  I don't understand why.
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  He goes, well, actually, he said, I do
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  understand why Ukrainian drones are the headline, because
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  they haven't gained anything else.
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  And it was pretty brutal what he said.
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  He said, show me one thing that they
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  have gained.
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  Show me one.
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  Can you point to a city?
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  Can you point to, you know?
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  He said, a few weeks ago, I heard
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  that they had pushed back and taken over
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  some farm territory, you know, maybe a couple
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  of kilometers worth of farm territory.
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  He goes, open land?
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  You come and take open land when nobody's
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  there?
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  And this is your victory?
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  You know, he said, we're taking over cities.
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  We are systematically.
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  And they are.
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  I mean, we started this back with Pokrovsk.
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  Remember me talking about Pokrovsk back in freaking
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  January, February.
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  And he's absolutely right.
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  And this is a complete waste of time,
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  money, effort, everything.
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  It's functionally, it's over.
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  They're 90-something, 93%, 94% through Donetsk.
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  They got all of Lugansk.
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  They have through, they got to go through
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  Zaporizhzhia.
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  And then they also have to finish up
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  in Kharkov.
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  And so, and now they're going into Sumy.
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  And they're going to beat up on that
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  place.
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  Kupyansk is under pressure.
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  I mean, these are cities all over on
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  that eastern front where they're going to take
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  it all up.
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  But it wouldn't surprise me.
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  And when I said something about this when
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  this first started in 2022, somebody was interviewing
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  me somewhere about it.
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  And I was like, well, it seems to
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  me, and I still believe this because I'm
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  a pretty good historian of this.
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  I've been involved in Russian studies for a
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  very long time.
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  And I know that in the Ukrainian, if
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  you go east of the River Dnieper, if
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  you go east of there, the fact is
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  everybody speaks Russian.
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  They may speak some Ukrainian too, but the
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  primary language has always been Russian.
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  The primary nationality is Russian.
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  And what the Ukrainians did, the nationalists after
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  the sponsored coup by the CIA and by
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  the Newlands of the world and by the,
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  and later by the Boris Johnsons of the
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  world is a travesty.
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  They've destroyed a good people and they've sold
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  them a bill of goods.
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  That's just complete crap.
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  And, and, and Ukraine.
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  Oh, in fact, I'm looking at it right
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  now.
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  Ukraine's drone innovation is changing the tide of
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  war.
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  Yup.
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  It's changing the tide of war.
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  They're putting all these massive missile attacks inside
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  of Russia.
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  This is a lie.
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  Okay.
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  They're doing it.
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  They're bombing it, but they're gaining nothing.
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  And they say the war is transformed by
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  drone use.
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  I'll agree with that.
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  You know, the stuff in the war, in
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  the war is, and Putin acknowledges that too,
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  but what's, what's it gained for Ukraine?
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  Nothing.
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  And, and all over here, they're taking everything
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  they can and pushing it from the point
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  of view of we are, you know, we
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  being Ukraine are winning.
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  They are not winning, not remotely.
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  And anybody who has a half a brain
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  acknowledges that, but unfortunately our news doesn't have
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  a half a brain and they don't acknowledge
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  it.
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  Putin says that the infrastructure strikes are intended
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  to force Russia to pause the offensive and
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  get what they really want.
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  They want to pause the offensive, that what
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  they want is a ceasefire.
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  That's what they've been pushing for since Trump
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  took office.
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  We want a ceasefire.
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  They don't want to end this conflict.
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  They haven't said that once.
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  We don't want this conflict to be over.
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  We want a ceasefire and we will talk
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  about it.
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  That is Western strategy.
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  That is Western diplomacy.
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  Look what we did in Iran.
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  Fake them into talking and then they talk
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  and then you bomb the crap out of
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  them while you're talking.
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  That's what we did.
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  That's what started the war on February 28th.
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  We had started while they were negotiating.
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  We bombed the crap out of them.
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  And that's crap.
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  And we did it because of Netanyahu.
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  And it's the exact same fact pattern everywhere.
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  And the only way to beat a bully
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  is punch him back and deal with it.
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  You know, trade blows with him.
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  Trust me, Russia is doing more than trading
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  blows.
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  I'll get to some specific numbers on drones
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  here from last night as well because I
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  think it needs to be put in there.
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  But these strikes are intended to get them
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  to stop the offensive on the Eastern Front
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  and to enter talks on terms favorable to
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  Ukraine.
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  And what he said, we will not give
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  them that chance.
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  We will not give them that chance.
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  So the journalist question, Vladimir Vladimirovich, you just
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  held a meeting with the heads of our
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  largest oil companies concerning the situation in the
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  fuel market.
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  And by the way, that is tough in
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  Russia.
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  I already told you about this a few
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  days ago.
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  When you have in the fuel market, you
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  have military fuel and you have fuel for
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  the commoners, you know.
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  And they produce far more diesel inside of
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  Russia than they do gas for you, like
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  unleaded for your car.
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  And there's a lot of diesel cars over
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  there, which is, you know, kind of cool.
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  But there's also plenty of gas-powered, right?
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  And plenty of electric, too.
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  But the gas-powered are really hurting right
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  now because Russia never did have a ton
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  of refineries on all of that.
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  And so they don't refine their own—or not
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  enough, anyway—their own gas.
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  And so they have to import it.
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  And they're importing more from China.
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  They're trying to get some from Kazakhstan.
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  And I hear that they're trying to get
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  it from Belarus to Belarus to try to
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  get it from there.
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  And so Vladimir Vladimirovich's question, which is, you
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  just had a meeting with our oil companies
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  concerning situation in the fuel markets.
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  In your assessment, the enemy strike against our
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  energy facilities and plants, how serious is the
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  harm they have caused or are causing to
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  our fuel market?
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  And of course, a very important topic, what's
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  happening with the supply in Crimea and Sevastopol?
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  Because they cut off all civilian fuel inside
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  of Crimea and Sevastopol.
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  So what you're getting is you're seeing some
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  videos of people fighting at the gas station
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  about getting the little bit of gas that
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  remains because there's an order that—oh, shit.
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  Sorry.
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  There's an order that says they cannot purchase
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  any oil or any fuel.
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  All fuel is being held for the military,
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  especially in Crimea, Sevastopol.
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  You know, everything's for the military down there.
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  And so Putin said, as for strikes on
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  critically important infrastructure in general and on energy
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  infrastructure in particular, then, of course, these strikes
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  against our infrastructure facilities do create a problem.
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  That is obvious.
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  Now, that's pretty open.
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  OK, so it does create a problem.
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  We are now observing a deficit, but it
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  is not a critical deficit.
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  I will say that now.
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  There are several tasks here that we must
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  solve.
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  We've just been discussing this with our colleagues.
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  The first task is to quickly and substantially
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  increase production in the most in-demand air
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  defense systems.
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  So he's acknowledging that their air defense has
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  taken a hit.
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  But it all does because of these drones.
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  If you go in waves of drones, what
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  you're doing is you send a first wave
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  with a hundred, and it uses up all
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  the missiles.
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  You send a second wave, and it takes
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  out the second layer.
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  And so they layer these attacks, and they
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  know they're going to lose the first.
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  Let's say they send 500 drones a day.
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  And Ukraine's only sending about 200 to 400.
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  But they're sending these drones out every day.
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  And the first layers, the first 50, will
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  be taken out.
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  The second 50, 10 of them might get
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  through.
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  The third 50, you know, whatever.
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  And as they keep going, the number increases
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  because you have no air defense left.
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  And it's the exact same in Ukraine on
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  a much more massive scale because they never
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  had any air defense in the first place.
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  And then the air defense they did have
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  is extremely expensive patriot-style systems and from
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  other people that they're trying the collection and
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  jamming route to try to save this as
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  well.
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  So he acknowledges they need to get more
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  to transfer.
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  He said we have to improve our new
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  systems in accordance with the needs of combat
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  and cover the corresponding facilities, taking into account
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  what the enemy is using and also taking
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  into account what is being transferred to them
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  from Europe, including new versions of unmanned aerial
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  vehicles with new technology.
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  All of these protective systems we do in
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  fact have.
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  The issue is in the speed of increasing
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  their production and supplying them to the troops
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  or causing them to cover critically important infrastructure
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  facilities.
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  So basically what he's doing is admitting, but
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  it's a controlled admission.
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  He's not saying that strikes are meaningless.
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  He's saying they're painful and require more air
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  defense, faster production.
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  You know, that's real.
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  Ukraine is causing real damage.
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  But Putin immediately narrows the meaning to the
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  damage is logistical and economic.
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  It isn't any decisive battlefield sort of victory
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  for them at all.
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  And then, you know, they've all pointed out,
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  as they tend to do, like in there's
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  a story this morning, published this morning in
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  Russian news, a six-month-old baby killed
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  in a Ukrainian drone strike on a Moscow
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  region.
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  UAV crashed into a private house in Yegorovsk,
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  110 kilometers southeast of Moscow, injured three other
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  people, said Andrey Vorobyov.
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  A six-month-old baby's been killed.
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  That's the governor of the Moscow region in
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  a telegram post on Tuesday.
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  He said the drone came down in the
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  town of Yegorovsk around 110 kilometers southeast of
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  Moscow at night as a result of a
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  drone crash.
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  A private house caught fire, people trapped under
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  the rubble.
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  He said the surviving victims, two adults and
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  a child, have been hospitalized and are receiving
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  assistance.
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  And the infant died on the way to
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  the hospital.
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  And according to Vorobyov, the Yegorovsk strike was
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  part of a wider overnight assault on the
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  defenses, you know.
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  And Putin frames this as Ukraine always attacking
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  civilian targets, not military.
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  And sometimes, you know, they'll attack the fuel
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  infrastructure too.
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  But they're attacking schools.
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  They're attacking, I don't mean to laugh about
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  it, they're attacking schools.
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  They're attacking workplaces.
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  I already told you about the beach and
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  the cluster bombs in Crimea.
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  These guys don't have any trouble with that
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  sort of thing.
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  So he talks about the fuel deficit as
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  well.
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  And he says it is clear what has
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  to be done in order to ensure normal
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  supply and get rid of this temporarily arisen
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  deficit.
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  It's necessary to bring facilities out of repair
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  more quickly.
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  It's necessary to arrange new volume imports.
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  So Putin is admitting three things all at
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  once.
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  Once repairs, two, imports, and three, air defense
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  coverage is not sufficient.
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  And he says, as he's already said, though,
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  there is damage, but all damaged facilities are
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  being restored rather quickly.
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  And the Russian answer to the Ukrainian drone
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  strike is, you can still hit us, but
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  you'll not stop us.
• 20:36
  And so this is, you call it Ozarkian
• 20:39
  if you want to, it's the exact same
• 20:41
  thing.
• 20:42
  And he's like, well, you know, it ain't
• 20:43
  going to stop anything.
• 20:44
  They can continue to do it.
• 20:46
  They can continue to broadcast in the West
• 20:49
  that, oh, by the way, we're changing the
• 20:52
  face of the war.
• 20:53
  Oh, are you?
• 20:54
  You're still losing your ass.
• 20:56
  What do you think that that's it?
• 20:58
  That's your answer is to have a bunch
• 21:00
  of goons sitting in a basement flying drones.
• 21:03
  That's your war strategy.
• 21:05
  That's the same war strategy the US has
• 21:08
  in Iran.
• 21:08
  And maybe that's going to be sufficient.
• 21:11
  I think people are going to tire of
• 21:13
  it far quicker.
• 21:14
  Well, quickly enough, not as quickly as they
• 21:18
  would if we had our boots on the
• 21:19
  ground somewhere, like in Iran, nobody wants that
• 21:22
  crap.
• 21:23
  You know, I mean, if you're for that,
• 21:25
  you need to have your head examined.
• 21:27
  There's no good that can come of it.
• 21:29
  Look at all the good that came out
• 21:31
  of us going into Afghanistan.
• 21:33
  Yeah.
• 21:33
  Look at all the good that came out
• 21:35
  of any war we've been involved in, in
• 21:37
  the last hell since Vietnam.
• 21:40
  Find one other than Grenada, you know, when
• 21:43
  Reagan went in and took Grenada.
• 21:46
  So talk about supplies, supplies of energy in
• 21:50
  Crimea.
• 21:50
  The monthly need is 70,000 tons.
• 21:53
  And in Crimea, there's a reserve for several
• 21:55
  days.
• 21:56
  But the needs will be met and will
• 21:58
  increase these supplies both by land and by
• 22:00
  sea.
• 22:01
  I'm competent, confident these tasks will be resolved.
• 22:06
  And that's a concrete number.
• 22:07
  Crimea needs 70,000 tons a month.
• 22:10
  And Putin says they only have a few
• 22:12
  days of reserves.
• 22:13
  So this is important because Crimea is a
• 22:15
  big military rear area and a symbolic Russian
• 22:18
  holding, especially for Sevastopol.
• 22:20
  That's where the Black Sea fleet is.
• 22:23
  And so it's a big deal.
• 22:25
  And then, you know, the port of Odessa
• 22:27
  is on the other side.
• 22:28
  And there, you know, it's under continued barrage.
• 22:31
  So in any way, the strategic claims that
• 22:35
  drone strikes are an important operation, they really
• 22:37
  are.
• 22:38
  At a minimum, the goal is to create
• 22:40
  uncertainty inside of Russia, he says.
• 22:43
  Uncertainty of ourselves, our forces, or even better,
• 22:46
  to bring about a split in Russian society
• 22:49
  and to force Russia to suspend, at least
• 22:53
  for a short time, the offensive of our
• 22:56
  troops along the front combat contact line and
• 22:59
  to create conditions for the beginning of a
• 23:02
  negotiation process favorable to Kiev.
• 23:05
  We will not give them such a chance.
• 23:08
  They're not going to.
• 23:09
  He said later that they're still here.
• 23:12
  He says, here's the, he says, Ukraine cannot
• 23:16
  win by retaking territory.
• 23:19
  So it's trying to win by creating pressure
• 23:22
  inside of Russia, hit refineries, hit fuel, hit
• 23:26
  Moscow, hit Crimea, create lines at gas stations,
• 23:30
  create telegram panic, and use that panic to
• 23:34
  force Russia to pause.
• 23:36
  And Putin is saying, no pause.
• 23:39
  He said, moreover, and this is important, all
• 23:42
  of these terrorist sorties do not in any
• 23:46
  way influence the situation at the front.
• 23:50
  This is fundamental.
• 23:51
  All strikes, wherever they may be carried out
• 23:55
  against our infrastructure, absolutely do not influence the
• 24:00
  situation at the front on the line of
• 24:03
  combat contact.
• 24:05
  And so the main question is, what has
• 24:09
  Ukraine gained?
• 24:11
  Let's think about this.
• 24:13
  They gained a propaganda effect.
• 24:15
  They gained some sort of disruption by attacking
• 24:19
  supply lines.
• 24:20
  Then some real damage to Russian oil refineries,
• 24:23
  storage, and fuel ability, and some evidence that
• 24:27
  Russian air defenses are stretched, and some ability
• 24:30
  to make Russian civilians feel the war.
• 24:33
  But Ukraine has not gained anything else.
• 24:38
  It has not broken the Russian offensive.
• 24:40
  It hasn't regained Donbass, none of that area.
• 24:44
  It hasn't relieved pressure on Kharkiv, Sumy, Zaporizhia,
• 24:47
  Kupyanska, Liman, or Konstantinovka.
• 24:51
  And it hasn't changed the basic Russian operational
• 24:53
  direction, which is westward.
• 24:56
  And they haven't defended Kyiv at all.
• 24:58
  Kyiv has bombed the crap out of Kyiv,
• 25:00
  and nightly it is happening.
• 25:03
  So it's, I believe this is an indication
• 25:12
  that they're nearing the end.
• 25:13
  And all they're trying to do is get
• 25:15
  more money.
• 25:16
  Do you know they don't have money to
• 25:17
  pay anything basic?
• 25:20
  There was a long diatribe on that the
• 25:23
  other day.
• 25:26
  He wants to, one of the questions was,
• 25:32
  a proposal to stop deep strikes.
• 25:37
  He said, what would it be?
• 25:39
  He said, to cease the strikes deep into
• 25:42
  the territory on both sides, and fight only
• 25:45
  about the four obelisks that they are fighting
• 25:50
  over.
• 25:51
  He said, it is clear why they are
• 25:52
  making this proposal, because our retaliatory strikes deep
• 25:56
  inside the territory of Ukraine are far more
• 25:59
  powerful, sensitive, and frankly speaking, destructive.
• 26:03
  They lead to truly serious consequences for the
• 26:06
  Kyiv regime.
• 26:07
  Putin is saying that Ukraine wants to stop
• 26:10
  the deep strike war.
• 26:11
  They want to both do it.
• 26:13
  You quit bombing us, and we'll stop bombing
• 26:15
  you.
• 26:16
  But Russia is saying, we're hurting them far
• 26:19
  more than they're hurting us.
• 26:20
  But the West just doesn't put out any
• 26:25
  information on that.
• 26:26
  And that's absolutely true.
• 26:27
  Whether you accept it or not, it fits
• 26:29
  the logic from the gas station strike.
• 26:31
  So I got a series of gas stations.
• 26:34
  I watched this really cool video about the
• 26:37
  gas stations, and I'll get to that here
• 26:43
  in a little bit.
• 26:44
  But Putin, I'll finish up with Putin first,
• 26:47
  because I always distract myself.
• 26:49
  Putin on the front, he's talking about going
• 26:51
  north to south.
• 26:52
  This is a section that he says you
• 26:55
  have to work through it slowly, because of
• 26:58
  the map.
• 26:58
  And he's talking about Sumy, which is just
• 27:00
  below the area where the Kursk region, where
• 27:07
  the Ukrainians attacked when they wanted to take
• 27:11
  over the Russian nuclear plant in that region,
• 27:16
  in Kursk, the Kursk nuclear power plant, because
• 27:20
  they lost the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant, which
• 27:23
  is the largest in Europe.
• 27:25
  And so they wanted to go into, well,
• 27:27
  that's one of the arguments.
• 27:27
  The other one was they just wanted to
• 27:29
  show that they could do something, which was
• 27:31
  totally idiotic, because you lost more lines on
• 27:34
  the front.
• 27:34
  That was back when they were talking about,
• 27:36
  man, which cities did they lose then?
• 27:42
  That doesn't matter, but some larger cities in
• 27:46
  the east.
• 27:46
  And so what he is saying is that
• 27:49
  Putin says the Russian objectives in Sumy and
• 27:52
  Volchansk are creating a security zone.
• 27:56
  Remember he said a year ago that he
• 27:59
  was going to build a buffer zone along
• 28:02
  the border?
• 28:03
  Well, it's being built.
• 28:04
  It's being built all the way through Sumy
• 28:07
  and all the way through Kharkov, everywhere.
• 28:09
  And it's about 30 kilometers cross by the
• 28:12
  time you get through there.
• 28:13
  They're only 10 kilometers from Sumy right now,
• 28:18
  and Volchansk.
• 28:19
  And if they get that far, this is
• 28:21
  the early incursions into Kursk and attacks on
• 28:24
  the Russian border areas like Belgorod and places
• 28:28
  like that.
• 28:28
  He said the Ukrainian regime is going to
• 28:30
  pay for its crimes on Kursk land by
• 28:32
  losing territory to create this buffer zone, because
• 28:38
  we're going to create this buffer zone.
• 28:40
  And he said, by the way, to the
• 28:42
  city of Sumy, the regional center, there's only
• 28:46
  around 10.5 kilometers left.
• 28:48
  And he says Russia has no political plans
• 28:50
  for Sumy or the region in general.
• 28:53
  And he says that Russia will follow proposals
• 28:56
  or defense ministry and general staff.
• 28:58
  This is Putin's careful wording.
• 29:00
  He says no political plan, but he also
• 29:02
  says the army is only 10 kilometers away.
• 29:04
  He didn't say that accidentally.
• 29:06
  That's pressure to give up on Sumy, or
• 29:08
  you're going to lose Sumy too.
• 29:10
  Kiev, that's an entire obelisk, but the capital
• 29:13
  of it is Sumy.
• 29:14
  You cannot demand a ceasefire in four regions
• 29:17
  while we're approaching Sumy, basically.
• 29:21
  So Kupyansk and the Western grouping, it's the
• 29:24
  exact same thing.
• 29:25
  The troops are two and a half kilometers
• 29:27
  from the Western edges of Kupyansk, and that's
• 29:29
  another big industrial place.
• 29:31
  He then says a mixed Ukrainian group of
• 29:34
  5,000 people is blocked in, is circled
• 29:36
  in on the left bank of the river
• 29:38
  Oskol.
• 29:39
  And he pressed against the river, and Russian
• 29:41
  formations are squeezing them from the northeast and
• 29:43
  south.
• 29:44
  And he says, we're almost have them completely
• 29:47
  encircled.
• 29:48
  And until complete encirclement, everything is there under
• 29:53
  control.
• 29:54
  But until the final circlement, there remains somewhere
• 29:57
  around two kilometers.
• 29:58
  And he says it's the previous Ukrainian grouping
• 30:02
  that was completely destroyed.
• 30:05
  Same thing that happened in Krasny Liman and
• 30:07
  Liman.
• 30:08
  Same thing that happens in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Ruzhivka,
• 30:11
  Konstantinovka, all of those big cities.
• 30:14
  It's an entire urban belt, and that's the
• 30:18
  next strategic system.
• 30:19
  The Third Army is moving towards Slavyansk at
• 30:22
  a good pace, and has entered Nikolaevka, and
• 30:25
  it's about eight or nine kilometers from Slavyansk.
• 30:28
  All of these things are important, because it's
• 30:32
  completely ignored in the West.
• 30:35
  Oh, yeah, Ukraine's kicking ass.
• 30:37
  Oh, really?
• 30:39
  I don't see it that way.
• 30:42
  I don't see it that way.
• 30:44
  You might be blowing up some civilians in
• 30:47
  Russia, and making people hurt.
• 30:50
  You might be making them hurt at the
• 30:52
  gas pump.
• 30:53
  Not as bad as us.
• 30:54
  Their gas is still a hell of a
• 30:56
  lot cheaper than ours.
• 30:57
  But, you know, there it is.
• 31:00
  Konstantinovka, 96 percent of the city is in
• 31:03
  Russian hands.
• 31:04
  The gas war.
• 31:05
  Here's what Russia's doing.
• 31:06
  Get this.
• 31:07
  Russia is now doing this.
• 31:09
  In between the big cities, like Sumy, get
• 31:12
  this, based on these transcripts, and I watched
• 31:15
  this for quite a while last night.
• 31:17
  It was interesting.
• 31:18
  What they're targeting is there's these roads, and
• 31:20
  all their roads are either M roads, R
• 31:22
  roads, N roads, kind of like us and
• 31:24
  US highway this, highway that.
• 31:26
  Those are M, and R, and N.
• 31:29
  So, between Dnipro and Kharkiv, they're on the
• 31:31
  M-29 road, on the M-3 road,
• 31:33
  on the R-46 road.
• 31:35
  These are highways.
• 31:36
  Gas stations.
• 31:37
  They're blowing up all the gas stations.
• 31:39
  There are no gas stations left.
• 31:43
  Russia has taken out the entire line of
• 31:46
  them, all the way from Dnipro to Kharkiv.
• 31:49
  All the way from Kharkiv to Kremenchuk in
• 31:52
  Kyiv.
• 31:53
  Kharkiv and Sumy.
• 31:55
  Nikopol and Dnipro.
• 31:57
  Zaporizhia and Orekhov.
• 32:00
  And then the gas stations in Nikopol, Zaporizhia,
• 32:03
  Kharkiv, approaches, and all along the key eastern
• 32:06
  roads.
• 32:07
  And so, the oil bases and fuel depots
• 32:09
  eat deeper west, including around Kropyvnytskyi.
• 32:17
  I can't say the word.
• 32:20
  Kropyvnytskyi.
• 32:21
  Kropyvnytskyi.
• 32:21
  I had the udreynia wrong.
• 32:23
  Anyway, the repeated phrase is one-way tickets.
• 32:27
  Like, you might have enough gas to get
• 32:29
  one way into Sumy, but you're never getting
• 32:32
  back, because there are no gas stations left
• 32:34
  in Sumy at all.
• 32:37
  And so, you can't leave Sumy once you
• 32:39
  get there.
• 32:40
  And you better fill up pretty damn far
• 32:43
  away, because you're never going to get a
• 32:45
  gas station.
• 32:46
  Russia, over the last two weeks, has been
• 32:48
  systematically destroying each and every gas station.
• 32:52
  They don't need to destroy every tank at
• 32:55
  the front.
• 32:55
  They just destroy the fuel web behind the
• 32:58
  tank.
• 32:58
  Of course, they've already destroyed all the tanks
• 33:00
  anyway.
• 33:01
  And it's not necessary to capture Kharkiv tomorrow,
• 33:03
  because Kharkiv can no longer be fed, fueled,
• 33:07
  reinforced, evacuated, or defended before winter.
• 33:11
  And in the winter, Russia's going to, you
• 33:14
  know, roll through it.
• 33:16
  So, they're not necessarily going to storm Zaporizhye
• 33:19
  yet, but if they cut this all through.
• 33:22
  So, what's the drone comparison, finally, in this?
• 33:26
  Ukraine's long-range drone campaign can cause damage
• 33:30
  to Russian infrastructure, and it is.
• 33:32
  Putin admits that.
• 33:33
  It can cause shortages, which it is.
• 33:36
  Russia admits that.
• 33:38
  It can force, Putin admitted that, in fact,
• 33:41
  it can force Russia to move air defenses,
• 33:44
  increase production, import fuel, which they don't like
• 33:47
  to do, and reorganize supply.
• 33:50
  And the Russians have historically had the cheapest
• 33:52
  fuel.
• 33:54
  You know, buying gas over there is nothing
• 33:57
  like buying gas over here.
• 33:58
  It's cheap, and it doesn't cost you, you
• 34:02
  know, half of your wallet, you know, your
• 34:05
  left leg.
• 34:06
  It doesn't cost you that to fill up
• 34:09
  your truck.
• 34:10
  Of course, they don't, a lot of them
• 34:11
  don't drive trucks over there.
• 34:13
  They have smaller cars.
• 34:14
  But, you know, my truck over here, it's
• 34:17
  gone down some, you know.
• 34:18
  It was 130 bucks a couple, three weeks
• 34:21
  ago, and I filled it up again here
• 34:23
  this last time.
• 34:25
  It was barely over 100.
• 34:27
  So, it is coming down.
• 34:29
  But hell, February, it only cost me 70
• 34:32
  bucks, 70 dollars.
• 34:34
  I have a 35-gallon tank, and so,
• 34:38
  you know, well, it's 250, you know, but
• 34:40
  it, but it, I don't let it go
• 34:42
  all the way empty, you know what I
• 34:43
  mean?
• 34:43
  And, and it just, now it's, it's two
• 34:46
  times that.
• 34:47
  It's crazy.
• 34:48
  So, Russia and their drones, they use their
• 34:54
  drones differently.
• 34:56
  Not for psychological effect, but to destroy the
• 34:59
  road and fuel architecture supporting the Ukrainian military.
• 35:05
  This is why the gas stations matter.
• 35:09
  They sound civilian and minor until you remember
• 35:12
  that small unit logistics, drone teams, mobile launch
• 35:17
  crews, repair vehicles, military police, evacuation vehicles, troop
• 35:21
  rotations.
• 35:22
  What do they all depend on?
• 35:24
  Fuel, parking lots, depots, roadside resupply, which they
• 35:29
  can no longer get.
• 35:32
  So, you know, it's, you can parallel what's
• 35:38
  going on in Ukraine with what we are
• 35:40
  doing, the U.S. model of attacking Iran.
• 35:45
  It's the same.
• 35:47
  Long-range strikes and air power, you can
• 35:49
  destroy infrastructure, radar, storage, command, but unless there's
• 35:55
  a ground campaign, a regime collapse, or political
• 35:59
  surrender, destruction isn't really going to produce any
• 36:03
  strategic victory.
• 36:05
  And that's the same problem that Ukraine is
• 36:08
  facing right now from the other side.
• 36:12
  Drone destruction is not the same as control
• 36:16
  of territory.
• 36:17
  The U.S. can bomb Iran, Ukraine can
• 36:20
  drone Russia, but if the other side absorbs
• 36:23
  those strikes and continues their main strategic operation,
• 36:28
  they'll stray to Hormuz, take the special military
• 36:31
  operation, then the strike is a cost imposition
• 36:35
  tool and not anything that's gonna end the
• 36:38
  war.
• 36:39
  And all they really want, all they want
• 36:43
  is a ceasefire, to rearm and do it
• 36:47
  all over again.
• 36:50
  So, I don't know.
• 36:54
  You could argue that Ukraine doesn't need to
• 36:58
  gain ground immediately for its drone campaign to
• 37:01
  work, to be victorious, to matter at all.
• 37:05
  It matters, but is this gonna change?
• 37:09
  Is this gonna be what the West is
• 37:10
  representing it to be, a change in the
• 37:14
  trajectory of the war, that this means Russia's
• 37:17
  losing, that Putin's gonna, you know, that they're
• 37:20
  gonna lose?
• 37:23
  I tell you what, I speak to a
• 37:24
  lot of Russians when I go to Russia.
• 37:27
  I try to talk to as many people
• 37:29
  as I can.
• 37:30
  And it's not that they are 100%
• 37:33
  pro-Putin, but they're just like us, 100
• 37:38
  % pro-Russia.
• 37:40
  I mean, we're 100% pro-America here.
• 37:43
  You know, we give a lot of leeway
• 37:45
  to our BS, Department of War.
• 37:49
  You know, you can't be defensive anymore, you
• 37:51
  gotta be offensive and punch the world in
• 37:54
  the face because we're bigger than you, we're
• 37:56
  bullies.
• 37:56
  And so we therefore change our name to
• 37:59
  the Department of War and move on, bring
• 38:02
  out, I can't wait to say it because
• 38:04
  I love to say it, need to say
• 38:05
  it every show, bring out, put me in
• 38:08
  coach, come on coach, put me in, Hegseth,
• 38:11
  and bring in the JV quarterback and let
• 38:17
  him run with his new Department of War
• 38:20
  and fire all the primary quarterbacks, command generals
• 38:24
  and staff, you know, get rid of them
• 38:26
  and put me in coach, can control it
• 38:29
  all.
• 38:31
  I'm not for that method, by the way,
• 38:33
  maybe that's obvious, I don't know.
• 38:36
  But, you know, I suppose you could argue
• 38:39
  that if Russia has to direct air defenses
• 38:41
  away from the front, increase domestic political pressure,
• 38:44
  but this is the latest in the strategy
• 38:50
  changes for Ukraine, right?
• 38:53
  They have no people left, their boosification squads
• 38:57
  are out beating the crap out of people
• 38:58
  and sending them off to the front and
• 39:00
  their commanders are getting arrested for killing people
• 39:04
  and training, for beating the snot out of
• 39:07
  them.
• 39:07
  I mean, you take somebody who don't want
• 39:08
  to fight and force him to fight, you're
• 39:10
  going to just kill him because he ain't
• 39:12
  going to fight, you know, that's all there
• 39:14
  is to it and he ain't going to
• 39:15
  train, you know.
• 39:16
  The only thing you could encourage him to
• 39:19
  do is learn how to defend himself and
• 39:20
  shoot somebody that runs up, but he knows
• 39:23
  he's going to his death sentence, he don't
• 39:25
  want to be there and by the way,
• 39:27
  why would you want him there?
• 39:29
  His buddies don't want him there, you know,
• 39:31
  I don't want to be standing in a
• 39:32
  foxhole and relying on some guy who's probably
• 39:35
  going to run away, run away, we got
• 39:37
  to play some Monty Python for you.
• 39:43
  That's no ordinary rabbit, we could do a
• 39:47
  play some Monty Python, but think about this,
• 39:50
  Putin, he admits damage but says it isn't
• 39:53
  critical, he says the purpose of these attacks
• 39:55
  is to force Russia to pause, he says
• 39:58
  Russia will not pause, he says the strikes
• 40:00
  do not affect the front, he then lists
• 40:03
  Russian advances in Sumy, Kupyansk, Liman, Konstantinovka, movement
• 40:08
  towards Slavyansk, Druzhkovo, Kramatorsk and and those are
• 40:13
  big industrial cities and huge strategically and so
• 40:18
  the whole thing is this, Ukraine is winning
• 40:20
  propaganda wars, but Russia is winning the war
• 40:24
  and geography and the places that matter, so
• 40:28
  that's what we have.
• 40:32
  Now the parts that you really can't verify
• 40:36
  is 149 houses or buildings are left in
• 40:41
  Liman, remember I told you about that earlier,
• 40:45
  they say they've wiped out 200 gas stations
• 40:48
  and in the last several weeks, 200 gas
• 40:55
  stations, Russia we know is systematically targeting these
• 40:59
  gas stations along the main roads into Kharkiv,
• 41:02
  Sumy, Zaporizhzhya, Nikopol, Dnipro and we'll see, you
• 41:07
  know you could say that, I mean time
• 41:10
  will tell, but Russia's been advancing steadily for
• 41:15
  the entire time, you know, and more cities,
• 41:20
  how many cities this year, some pretty damn
• 41:22
  big ones, so I tell you the, of
• 41:27
  all these strikes, they do not influence the
• 41:33
  situation at the front, that's probably the strongest
• 41:39
  line is the opening line of Putin's discussion
• 41:43
  with this journalist, Pavel Zarubin and Konstantinovka, Putin
• 41:52
  says 96%, Liman he says 99%, Sumy he
• 42:01
  says they're 10 kilometers away, Kharkiv gas stations
• 42:05
  and roads are cut off in a one
• 42:06
  -way ticket, you know you can get in
• 42:09
  but not out, in Zaporizhzhya all the same
• 42:12
  stuff, so Ukraine is using drones to create
• 42:18
  pressure, Russia is using drones, bombs and ground
• 42:23
  forces to change the map, unless Ukraine's strikes
• 42:29
  against fuel depots in Russia force Russia to
• 42:33
  pause, the result is still Russian territorial gain,
• 42:38
  no ceasefire and just continued Ukrainian drone fire,
• 42:46
  and so I don't know, I thought it
• 42:47
  was an interesting interview overall and pretty informative
• 42:55
  and straightforward, which I say Putin has always
• 42:58
  been straightforward, you know, you don't have to
• 43:01
  believe him and you could say half of
• 43:03
  it's propaganda, hell, maybe it is, I don't
• 43:06
  know, but he's consistent, he said the same
• 43:09
  thing forever and he said the same thing,
• 43:13
  you know, you bombing our children at a
• 43:18
  beach in Crimea with cluster rounds, killing 150
• 43:25
  people, that's not going to stop us, and
• 43:27
  everything that they continue to do, he keeps
• 43:30
  saying, you know, it's not going to stop
• 43:33
  us, we're going to keep on trucking.
• 43:38
  Part two of this show is going to
• 43:40
  be a little bit about some of the
• 43:42
  Supreme Court ruling, I have a particular one
• 43:46
  I want to look into, the birthright citizenship,
• 43:53
  I haven't seen the ruling yet, I hear
• 43:54
  it's out, but I haven't seen it yet,
• 43:57
  but I'll have a check for that and
• 43:59
  I'm not going to go look for it
• 44:00
  in the middle of the show.
• 44:00
  Meanwhile, in anticipation of our FBI and police
• 44:08
  brutality, we're going to play a fun song
• 44:14
  for you, just because I like it, and
• 44:16
  it's Charlie Daniels, and the FBI is right
• 44:22
  in the middle of it, so we're going
• 44:25
  to talk about the FBI raiding the wrong
• 44:28
  house, and how that ruling went on there,
• 44:32
  and a couple other things in that regard,
• 44:34
  but we're going to start out with the
• 44:37
  theme to get us there, and then we'll
• 44:40
  finish off with some news, but the theme
• 44:42
  is going to be Charlie Daniels.
• 44:44
  Whilst I play him for you, where is
• 44:48
  he?
• 44:49
  Here it comes.
• 45:09
  I was taking a trip out to LA,
• 45:12
  tooling along in my Chevrolet, toking on the
• 45:15
  number and digging on the radio.
• 45:19
  Just as I crossed the Mississippi line, I
• 45:22
  heard that highway start to whine, and I
• 45:24
  knew that left rear tire was about to
• 45:27
  go.
• 45:29
  Well, the spare was flat, and I got
• 45:31
  uptight, because there wasn't a filling station in
• 45:34
  sight, so I just limped on down the
• 45:36
  shoulder on the rim.
• 45:39
  I went as far as I could, and
• 45:41
  when I stopped the car, it was right
• 45:42
  in front of this little bar, kind of
• 45:44
  a redneck looking joint, called the Dew Drop
• 45:47
  Inn.
• 45:49
  Well, I stuffed my hair up under my
• 45:51
  hat, told the bartender that I had a
• 45:54
  flat, and would he be kind enough to
• 45:56
  give me change for a one.
• 45:59
  Well, there was one thing I was sure
• 46:00
  proud to see.
• 46:01
  There wasn't a soul in the place, except
• 46:03
  for him and me, and he just looked
• 46:05
  disgusted and pointed toward the telephone.
• 46:09
  I called up a station down the road
• 46:11
  a ways, and he said he wasn't very
• 46:13
  busy today, and he could have somebody there
• 46:15
  in just about 10 minutes or so.
• 46:18
  He said, now, you just stay right where
• 46:21
  you're at, and I didn't bother to tell
• 46:23
  the darn fool that I sure as hell
• 46:25
  didn't have any place else to go.
• 46:29
  I just ordered up a beer and sat
• 46:31
  down at the bar when some guy walked
• 46:33
  in and said, who owns this car with
• 46:34
  the peace sign and the mag wheels and
• 46:36
  four on the floor?
• 46:39
  Well, he looked at me, and I damn
• 46:41
  near died, and I decided that I'd just
• 46:43
  wait outside, so I laid a dollar on
• 46:45
  the bar and headed for the door.
• 46:49
  Just when I thought I'd get out of
• 46:51
  there with my skin, these five big dudes
• 46:53
  come strolling in with this one old drunk
• 46:55
  chick and some fellow with green teeth, and
• 46:59
  I was almost at the door when the
• 47:01
  biggest one said, you tip your hat to
• 47:03
  this lady, son, and when I did, all
• 47:05
  that hair fell out from underneath.
• 47:09
  Now, the last thing I wanted was to
• 47:11
  get in a fight in Jackson, Mississippi on
• 47:13
  a Saturday night, especially when there was three
• 47:16
  of them and only one of me, but
• 47:19
  they all started laughing, and I felt kind
• 47:21
  of sick.
• 47:22
  I knew I'd better think of something pretty
• 47:24
  quick, so I just reached out and kicked
• 47:26
  old green teeth right in the knee.
• 47:29
  Now, he let out a yell, let him
• 47:31
  curl your hair, but before he could move,
• 47:33
  I grabbed me a chair and said, watch
• 47:35
  him, folk, because he's a thoroughly dangerous man.
• 47:39
  Well, you may not know it, but this
• 47:41
  man's a spy.
• 47:42
  He's an undercover agent for the FBI, and
• 47:44
  he's been sent down here to infiltrate the
• 47:47
  Q Club's plans.
• 47:49
  He was still bent over, holding on to
• 47:51
  his knee, but everybody else was looking and
• 47:53
  listening to me, and I laid it on
• 47:55
  thicker and heavier as I went.
• 47:59
  I said, would you believe this man has
• 48:01
  gone as far as tearing Wallace stickers off
• 48:03
  the bumpers of cars, and he voted for
• 48:06
  George McGovern for president.
• 48:09
  Well, he's a friend of them long-haired,
• 48:11
  hippie-type pico fags.
• 48:12
  I bet you he's even got a commie
• 48:14
  flag tacked up on the wall inside of
• 48:17
  his garage.
• 48:19
  He's a snake in the grass, I tell
• 48:21
  you guys.
• 48:22
  He may look dumb, but that's just a
• 48:24
  disguise.
• 48:25
  He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage.
• 48:29
  They all started looking real suspicious at him,
• 48:32
  and he jumped up and said, now just
• 48:34
  wait a minute, Jim.
• 48:35
  You know he's lying.
• 48:36
  I've been living here all of my life.
• 48:39
  I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch,
• 48:42
  and I belong to the Ammion Baptist Church,
• 48:45
  and I ain't even got a garage.
• 48:46
  You can call home.
• 48:47
  That's my wife.
• 48:49
  Then he started saying something about the way
• 48:52
  I was dressed, but I didn't went around
• 48:54
  to hear the rest.
• 48:55
  I was too busy moving and hoping I
• 48:57
  didn't run out of luck.
• 49:00
  When I hit the ground, I was making
• 49:02
  tracks, and they were just taking my car
• 49:04
  down off the jack, so I threw the
• 49:06
  man a 20 and jumped in and fired
• 49:08
  that mother up.
• 49:10
  Mario Andretti would have sure been proud of
• 49:13
  the way I was moving when I passed
• 49:14
  that crowd coming out the door and hitting
• 49:16
  toward me in a trot, and I guess
• 49:21
  I should have gone ahead and run, but
• 49:22
  somehow I just couldn't resist the fun of
• 49:25
  chasing them all just once around the parking
• 49:28
  lot.
• 49:30
  Well, they're headed for their car, but I
• 49:32
  hit the gas and spun around and headed
• 49:34
  them off at the pass.
• 49:35
  I was slinging gravel and putting a ton
• 49:37
  of dust in the air.
• 49:40
  I had them all out there stepping and
• 49:42
  fetching like their heads were on fire and
• 49:44
  their asses was catching, but I figured I'd
• 49:46
  better go before the cops got there.
• 49:50
  When I hit the road, I was really
• 49:52
  wheeling, had the gravel flying and rubber squealing,
• 49:55
  and I didn't slow down until I was
• 49:57
  almost to Arkansas.
• 50:00
  Well, I think I'm going to reroute my
• 50:02
  trip.
• 50:03
  I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped if
• 50:05
  I went to L.A. via Omaha.
• 50:12
  And there you have it.
• 50:18
  That is some good stuff from the Charlie
• 50:21
  Daniels Band back in the 70s and something.
• 50:25
  It's good stuff, Maynard.
• 50:30
  I tell you what, we've got some some
• 50:33
  news going on around here a little bit
• 50:40
  locally that some people sent me some some
• 50:45
  text yesterday, and I always get them.
• 50:48
  People send it to me all the time.
• 50:49
  They remember my history when I was practicing
• 50:51
  law way back when.
• 50:54
  I sued the state all the time.
• 50:56
  Started with a guy named Eisenberg, Michael Eisenberg,
• 51:04
  and he was a liar, a cop, a
• 51:07
  lying cop that he would plant evidence on
• 51:10
  people and, you know, he would.
• 51:14
  Some cops, and I don't every time you
• 51:18
  say something like this, you end up going,
• 51:20
  oh, he hates cops.
• 51:21
  No, it's not.
• 51:22
  I hate bad cops, you know, but I
• 51:24
  don't hate cops.
• 51:26
  I hate I hate the fact that they're
• 51:28
  all highly militarized and everybody's a SWAT guy,
• 51:32
  you know, and they're carrying around grenades on
• 51:34
  their body and stuff like that.
• 51:37
  I don't think everybody should be dressed in
• 51:39
  SWAT gear, you know, and and come up
• 51:42
  to my my window all bulked up when
• 51:44
  they pull me over for ridiculous reasons.
• 51:48
  It happened twice in the last six months.
• 51:50
  I've been pulled over for nothing.
• 51:52
  And I was actually pulled why I was
• 51:55
  pulled over.
• 51:56
  I know why I was pulled over.
• 51:57
  I was pulled over because it looked like
• 52:01
  first time I came out of a parking
• 52:03
  lot that is near a bar.
• 52:05
  It isn't.
• 52:06
  It's in the building where I was working
• 52:08
  and it just happened to be near the
• 52:10
  bar on a day when everybody's doing a
• 52:13
  what do you call it when you go
• 52:15
  to each bar and you got to get
• 52:17
  a stamp from each bar or do something
• 52:20
  like that and you check in at each
• 52:21
  bar and you get a whatever they call
• 52:25
  it a bar run or something.
• 52:27
  And that's why I got pulled over.
• 52:30
  I got pulled over because a cop saw
• 52:31
  me pull out of there and he was
• 52:33
  clearly in fact, he admitted it after he
• 52:35
  asked me, he goes, well, you're pulled into
• 52:37
  the second lane.
• 52:38
  That's crap.
• 52:39
  You can't even pull into the first lane
• 52:41
  from the spot I'm talking about.
• 52:42
  It's an acute angle.
• 52:44
  You can't do it in a big truck.
• 52:46
  It's impossible.
• 52:46
  And so he he pulled me over to
• 52:51
  on a pretextual stop.
• 52:53
  And that was in that was here at
• 52:56
  the at the lake.
• 52:57
  And then I had a pretextual stop.
• 52:59
  I was coming back from Florida a couple
• 53:01
  of weeks ago and I got a pretextual
• 53:04
  stop by a cop outside of Atlanta.
• 53:07
  And that cop pulled me over his crap.
• 53:10
  He's followed me for miles and he pulled
• 53:12
  me over and he said I was weaving.
• 53:14
  I said I was not.
• 53:15
  I said you were weaving.
• 53:17
  I said I was not weaving.
• 53:19
  I said I saw you when you pulled
• 53:20
  him behind me.
• 53:22
  You know, I said, what'd you pull me
• 53:23
  over for?
• 53:23
  He said you were weaving.
• 53:24
  I said, uh-huh.
• 53:25
  I said, well, why'd you really pull me
• 53:27
  over?
• 53:28
  You know, and he said and he said
• 53:30
  he asked me, he goes, you've been drinking?
• 53:32
  I was like, ah, so now we know.
• 53:33
  I said, no.
• 53:34
  I said, if you want to check, I
• 53:36
  just the convenience store you followed me from,
• 53:39
  which again was right next to a bar,
• 53:40
  the convenience store where I filled up the
• 53:42
  car.
• 53:43
  I had just bought, middle of the night,
• 53:46
  and I bought a bottle of milk.
• 53:49
  I bought a bottle of milk and I
• 53:51
  got a coffee and I kind of mixed
• 53:54
  the two together.
• 53:55
  You know what I mean?
• 53:55
  I like milk and I was, that's my
• 54:00
  dad said, you want to taste it?
• 54:01
  This is right here.
• 54:03
  I was like, no, I haven't been drinking.
• 54:04
  I've been driving for six hours from frigging
• 54:08
  Fort Myers, Florida to here.
• 54:11
  And, uh, you know, it just happens to
• 54:13
  be OG 115 in the morning, you know,
• 54:17
  that's why you pulled me over.
• 54:18
  And so these pretextual stops, I dislike, but
• 54:21
  both of these offers come up and officers
• 54:23
  come up and they're, they're buffed out.
• 54:25
  They're, they're, they're tricked out in all of
• 54:27
  their SWAT gear.
• 54:28
  And I just, I'm offended by that.
• 54:31
  I don't like it.
• 54:32
  And I don't like pretextual stops.
• 54:34
  If you have a real reason to pull
• 54:36
  me over, fine.
• 54:37
  But if you're just rolling the dice to
• 54:39
  take a chance that you can, you know,
• 54:41
  get somebody there, that's fine.
• 54:43
  And I used to speak about these things
• 54:45
  all the time back in the day here
• 54:47
  when I did my radio show from KRMS
• 54:50
  called, um, question everything.
• 54:53
  And I always questioned these types of things
• 54:55
  and always questioned the way that, uh, that,
• 54:57
  that police do stuff.
• 54:58
  Like I question, uh, Missouri's gaming machine crap
• 55:03
  because the state won't fix it and, or
• 55:07
  they haven't fixed it and they're disadvantaging people.
• 55:10
  And you get Catherine Hannaway given civil pressure,
• 55:14
  felony pressure, dependent on who you are.
• 55:17
  If you're, if you happen to be this
• 55:19
  person, I'll charge you with a felony.
• 55:20
  But if you happen to be somebody else,
• 55:22
  I'm not even going to come into the
• 55:23
  place.
• 55:24
  You know, she won't go into a VFW
• 55:26
  hall and arrest anybody.
• 55:27
  She ain't going to do that.
• 55:29
  And she, she might have somebody do some
• 55:31
  licensing issues on them to force the issue.
• 55:34
  But that doesn't mean she doesn't want to
• 55:36
  force them to take them out, but she'll
• 55:38
  make a deal with them and let them
• 55:39
  keep it for a while.
• 55:41
  Why?
• 55:41
  Because they're charitable, they're charitable.
• 55:44
  And she don't want to take, she don't
• 55:45
  want to take, uh, you know, uh, 20
• 55:48
  ,000 veterans like me going, what the hell
• 55:51
  are you pulling?
• 55:52
  Which is exactly what I'm doing.
• 55:54
  I'm pulling the, I'm pulling the veteran card.
• 55:57
  Every veteran ought to be pissed off at
• 55:59
  this.
• 56:00
  You're going to go into a, a veterans
• 56:03
  hall and say, I can't hang out with
• 56:05
  my buddies in the veterans hall and play
• 56:07
  these idiotic games if I want to.
• 56:10
  Well, I'm sitting there having a beer and
• 56:11
  chatting with my buddies.
• 56:12
  Oh, I forgot.
• 56:14
  I forgot.
• 56:15
  That's a haven for organized crime, mid Missouri
• 56:21
  style, organized crime or, uh, rural style.
• 56:25
  We don't have to, well, geez, we don't
• 56:27
  want that organized crime back.
• 56:29
  Like we had in the day you weren't
• 56:30
  around then you pretty don't even know what
• 56:32
  it was then.
• 56:33
  You know, you should take those things with
• 56:36
  a grain of salt in the first place.
• 56:37
  I'm not saying they didn't exist.
• 56:39
  They did, but history is written by those
• 56:42
  who want to change the history.
• 56:43
  And remember, they use that same, that same,
• 56:46
  uh, argument to take over the Missouri judiciary
• 56:50
  with this, uh, unelected, uh, judges with, with
• 56:54
  these judges that are selected through this nonpartisan
• 56:58
  judicial selection.
• 57:00
  They did the exact same end run by
• 57:02
  claiming it was all, uh, necessary because of
• 57:08
  the, uh, mafia in the thirties.
• 57:13
  Okay.
• 57:14
  Those days are long past us.
• 57:16
  The mafia doesn't exist anymore.
• 57:17
  Why are we still allowing a group of
• 57:20
  unelected administrators to appoint judges in the state
• 57:24
  of Missouri and tell the governor what the
• 57:26
  governor's going to do and not the opposite,
• 57:28
  not the guy we elected to select somebody.
• 57:31
  It said that nonpartisan judicial system is crap.
• 57:35
  I could go on on all of these,
• 57:37
  on all of these topics, Catherine Hannaway.
• 57:39
  There's a, somebody sent me a link with
• 57:41
  the Camden County event going on right now.
• 57:44
  There's a sheriff versus the prosecutor, a credibility
• 57:47
  fight.
• 57:48
  The prosecutor won't charge anybody.
• 57:50
  If this officer is the investigating officer, because
• 57:54
  he's a loose cannon and, uh, and I
• 57:57
  read through that they have the, the, the
• 58:00
  Supreme court's nine to nothing reminder that government
• 58:03
  discretion is not a magical shield when the
• 58:06
  FBI rated the wrong house.
• 58:10
  Yeah.
• 58:11
  So we're, we're at Camden County, uh, site
• 58:15
  already has a public item called a response
• 58:18
  to the Easley allegations.
• 58:20
  It's Sergeant Bryce Easley and a dispute between
• 58:25
  Sheriff Edgar's office and prosecutor Rochelle, uh, I
• 58:29
  forget her last name, Grosvenor, Grosvenor.
• 58:31
  Um, when I knew her, it was Rochelle
• 58:32
  Christensen, or when I associated with her as
• 58:35
  a nice lady, I always liked her and
• 58:37
  never liked her politics, but I like her,
• 58:40
  you know, I have no problem with that.
• 58:41
  And so if you look at some of
• 58:44
  the things that I discussed, discussed locally, uh,
• 58:47
  local law, gaming machines, bad raids, lack of
• 58:52
  accountability in the government, you know, let's bring
• 58:54
  this close to home.
• 58:56
  You know, we've been talking to internationally about
• 58:58
  government, about pressure, about narratives, about propaganda, raids,
• 59:02
  drones, legal language to get outcomes that they
• 59:05
  can't get honestly.
• 59:07
  You know, you can't get Russia to capitulate
• 59:11
  with honesty or with diplomacy.
• 59:13
  So therefore you got to create a propaganda
• 59:14
  style stuff.
• 59:15
  That's government.
• 59:17
  Okay.
• 59:17
  That is, that's what government does.
• 59:20
  They're selling the public to keep us all
• 59:22
  fat, dumb, and happy.
• 59:23
  You keep my gas prices at 250 and
• 59:26
  I'll shut up.
• 59:27
  Right?
• 59:28
  That's, I mean, seriously, would I be bitching
• 59:31
  if my gas prices were 250?
• 59:32
  Probably not.
• 59:34
  Would I be bitching if you leave me
• 59:36
  alone?
• 59:36
  Probably not.
• 59:37
  Would I be bitching if you left the
• 59:39
  convenience store alone and didn't flat out lie
• 59:42
  about it?
• 59:44
  Probably.
• 59:45
  You know, quit lying about it.
• 59:47
  That's the part that gets me.
• 59:49
  Why are you treating us all like idiots
• 59:51
  as if we can't read and see for
• 59:54
  ourselves what's going on or worse as if
• 59:57
  we can't make a decision for ourselves, what
• 1:00:00
  we want to do with our money, with
• 1:00:02
  our spare time, and whether we wish to
• 1:00:04
  put it in a machine or we wish
• 1:00:06
  to smoke kratom or whatever the hell it's
• 1:00:09
  called or not.
• 1:00:10
  I think to people that smoke that crap
• 1:00:12
  are probably wrong.
• 1:00:14
  But I also think that people who smoke
• 1:00:16
  marijuana are long and marijuana are wrong.
• 1:00:18
  And marijuana is now legal.
• 1:00:20
  Nobody gives a crap.
• 1:00:21
  I never gave a crap before.
• 1:00:22
  Hell, I knew more lawyers and judges that
• 1:00:25
  used cocaine and marijuana than I knew regular
• 1:00:30
  people that used it.
• 1:00:31
  Probably because I associated more with judges, with
• 1:00:33
  lawyers, with stuff like that.
• 1:00:35
  And I knew who used and who didn't.
• 1:00:37
  You can spot them a mile away, first
• 1:00:39
  of all.
• 1:00:39
  And second of all, I saw it.
• 1:00:42
  And everybody was using marijuana back then, except
• 1:00:44
  me.
• 1:00:45
  I was, well, I shouldn't say everybody.
• 1:00:47
  That's stupid.
• 1:00:47
  There are a lot of people like me
• 1:00:49
  who are just anti from the jump.
• 1:00:51
  I don't want to do it.
• 1:00:52
  And I've never done it.
• 1:00:53
  And I've never engaged in any sort of
• 1:00:56
  drug because I thought I'd be extremely good
• 1:00:58
  at it.
• 1:00:59
  And frankly, that's one thing in my life
• 1:01:01
  that I'm pretty proud of.
• 1:01:02
  I've cocked up a lot of stuff in
• 1:01:04
  my life.
• 1:01:05
  But it never has to, at least I've
• 1:01:08
  never had the excuse of it being because
• 1:01:10
  of drugs.
• 1:01:11
  Hell, if I went to the Missouri bar
• 1:01:13
  and cried about a drug problem I had,
• 1:01:15
  they'd probably bend over backward trying to get
• 1:01:18
  me reinstated.
• 1:01:19
  Oh geez, I had a drug problem.
• 1:01:21
  Let's all cry together and sing kumbaya and
• 1:01:24
  maybe you'll help me.
• 1:01:26
  But you target me instead because I'm pretty
• 1:01:28
  straight up and I go against the state
• 1:01:31
  when it comes to things like this.
• 1:01:32
  And I call it like I see it.
• 1:01:36
  Okay?
• 1:01:36
  You don't have to agree with me.
• 1:01:37
  I'll be happy to debate you on it.
• 1:01:39
  But come on up and let's talk about
• 1:01:41
  it because let's talk about the local version
• 1:01:43
  of the same problem with these gaming machines,
• 1:01:46
  prosecutors, sheriffs, deputies, the travesty of body cameras.
• 1:01:52
  They only have the evidence of the body
• 1:01:54
  camera if it supports their position.
• 1:01:57
  You'll never get it if it's the other
• 1:01:58
  way around.
• 1:02:00
  Now, Rochelle putting out these videos, this guy,
• 1:02:04
  they are not good.
• 1:02:07
  That guy, I don't think the guy needs
• 1:02:09
  to be a cop.
• 1:02:10
  It's that type of cop that destroys it
• 1:02:13
  for all the rest of the cops out
• 1:02:16
  there.
• 1:02:17
  And like I always say in every profession,
• 1:02:22
  there's a group of bad people.
• 1:02:26
  Okay?
• 1:02:26
  You can pick it.
• 1:02:27
  I mean, I don't give a crap if
• 1:02:29
  you're picking a, I don't know, veterinarian place.
• 1:02:32
  You'll have somebody who's, you know, taking the
• 1:02:35
  drugs from the back and putting them into,
• 1:02:38
  I don't know what, into stealing from the
• 1:02:42
  till.
• 1:02:43
  You know, you got Walmart people that are
• 1:02:45
  lifting products out the back door.
• 1:02:47
  You got in every freaking walk of life.
• 1:02:52
  You have judges who are naked under their
• 1:02:54
  robes.
• 1:02:56
  It's an actual story.
• 1:02:57
  You have judges who are corrupted.
• 1:03:02
  You have judges who get arrested.
• 1:03:05
  This happens frequently.
• 1:03:06
  You just don't hear about it all the
• 1:03:08
  time.
• 1:03:09
  And so, you know, the trust us, we
• 1:03:13
  have discretion, you know, to get things right.
• 1:03:16
  And these things about what's called immunity, qualified
• 1:03:23
  immunity, which is a travesty.
• 1:03:26
  And, you know, you get it when you
• 1:03:28
  make these decisions on site, like this cop
• 1:03:36
  helping people attack this, what was this cop's
• 1:03:40
  name again?
• 1:03:41
  I don't remember.
• 1:03:43
  And the story is not really about him.
• 1:03:45
  It's a larger story.
• 1:03:48
  You know, this, what's his name?
• 1:03:50
  Easley.
• 1:03:51
  This Easley guy, I don't think he should
• 1:03:54
  be a cop.
• 1:03:55
  He's too many times.
• 1:03:56
  You know, how many times you got to
• 1:03:58
  do this before somebody holds you accountable?
• 1:04:00
  Nobody ever holds the police accountable.
• 1:04:02
  You know, they kill people and all they,
• 1:04:05
  they get a pass every time.
• 1:04:08
  They don't even, you rarely get past summary
• 1:04:10
  judgment because the law is so cocked up
• 1:04:13
  on it.
• 1:04:13
  It's just wrong.
• 1:04:15
  And they take this qualified immunity.
• 1:04:18
  Think about this.
• 1:04:19
  If you have a, let's use the same
• 1:04:22
  example, the Walmart cashier.
• 1:04:24
  Somebody comes in and is robbing the store
• 1:04:27
  and the cashier pulls a gun out from
• 1:04:30
  under pulls a, I mean, picks up an
• 1:04:32
  implement from the garden center and hits the
• 1:04:36
  guy over the head and kills him.
• 1:04:39
  You think Walmart's going to get sued for
• 1:04:41
  that?
• 1:04:42
  Sure they are.
• 1:04:43
  And because the guy was acting on behalf
• 1:04:46
  of Walmart at the time, they'll probably pay.
• 1:04:49
  But such is not the case.
• 1:04:51
  If a negligent or stupid police officer shoots
• 1:04:56
  somebody, kills them, beats them.
• 1:04:58
  And they always get, not always, but 99
• 1:05:01
  % of the time they get qualified immunity
• 1:05:05
  or the state of Missouri equivalent, which is
• 1:05:07
  called official immunity, which basically says if you're
• 1:05:11
  doing your job and you have the discretionary
• 1:05:16
  view to take discretion to act or not
• 1:05:20
  to act, to punch in the face or
• 1:05:22
  to not punch in the face, to defend
• 1:05:25
  yourself with killing someone or using a taser.
• 1:05:28
  If you have the choice between the two,
• 1:05:30
  then it doesn't matter which one you choose.
• 1:05:33
  It's justified.
• 1:05:34
  Period.
• 1:05:35
  End of sentence.
• 1:05:35
  You lose.
• 1:05:36
  Nobody gets paid.
• 1:05:38
  And so cops get to know this because
• 1:05:40
  they're trained it in their, in their, what
• 1:05:43
  do they call it here?
• 1:05:45
  Post certification.
• 1:05:47
  They're trained about qualified immunity and they're told,
• 1:05:50
  listen, you really don't have to worry about
• 1:05:51
  anything because 99% of the time you're
• 1:05:53
  going to be covered as long as you
• 1:05:55
  have discretion.
• 1:05:56
  Just, you know, be careful out there.
• 1:05:57
  But they turn off their cameras.
• 1:05:59
  Oh, gee, my camera wasn't working.
• 1:06:01
  The dash cam isn't working only when they're
• 1:06:03
  beating the crap out of people.
• 1:06:05
  Some people taser them at will.
• 1:06:07
  There are some bad cops out there.
• 1:06:10
  Piers this easily may be one of them,
• 1:06:12
  according to Rochelle.
• 1:06:14
  You know, I haven't, all I did was
• 1:06:15
  watch the videos.
• 1:06:16
  They're troubling and I don't like them, you
• 1:06:20
  know, but it's the same thing.
• 1:06:21
  It's this government overreach all the time.
• 1:06:25
  This, this pushing of your own personal power
• 1:06:30
  because you've been given some power in some
• 1:06:33
  discretion, you know, enter Catherine Hannaway, enter Kristen
• 1:06:37
  Templeton, enter the people who like to dictate
• 1:06:41
  what everybody else is going to do in
• 1:06:43
  their lives.
• 1:06:44
  And their own interpretation is all that matters.
• 1:06:48
  Their own interpretation.
• 1:06:50
  You know, there's nobody that's outlawed all these
• 1:06:52
  gaming devices.
• 1:06:53
  It's not there.
• 1:06:55
  It is not there.
• 1:06:57
  What they're telling you is not the truth.
• 1:07:01
  They're, they're propagandizing and they're careful.
• 1:07:04
  I read her article yesterday.
• 1:07:06
  I shared that with you and analyzed every
• 1:07:09
  freaking sentence of it because she's admitting even
• 1:07:13
  in the letter that she needs, she's hoping
• 1:07:16
  for a ruling from the court in this
• 1:07:22
  case that whatever the one was, the tuners
• 1:07:25
  case that was filed against them last week.
• 1:07:27
  She's hoping for, she, she announced it on
• 1:07:30
  this when she was announcing her new vice
• 1:07:32
  squad nonsense because apparently the mafia has taken
• 1:07:35
  over local convenience stores and there's all kinds
• 1:07:38
  of, and everything she listed is actually an
• 1:07:42
  individual crime against the facility or the other
• 1:07:46
  place.
• 1:07:47
  And she's claiming that this, and I want
• 1:07:49
  evidence of this.
• 1:07:50
  Oh, I want so bad for her to
• 1:07:52
  provide this evidence.
• 1:07:53
  I'd love to see the evidence that she
• 1:07:55
  has of people putting these, of what she
• 1:07:58
  said publicly.
• 1:07:59
  I would love to see that evidence.
• 1:08:01
  I'll bet you she doesn't have it and,
• 1:08:04
  or can't even point me to where I
• 1:08:06
  would talk to.
• 1:08:06
  I'll bet you anything that she don't have
• 1:08:09
  it.
• 1:08:09
  These are just like the, the war stories
• 1:08:11
  of a, of a police officer.
• 1:08:13
  Oh gee, there was some guy who was
• 1:08:15
  putting a string on a hundred dollar bill
• 1:08:17
  and inserting it and then pulling it back
• 1:08:19
  out.
• 1:08:19
  You know, he taped it in there and
• 1:08:21
  then they'd put it in, pull it out.
• 1:08:22
  Well, who are you screwing?
• 1:08:25
  Who are you?
• 1:08:25
  Why don't you charge that guy with a
• 1:08:27
  crime?
• 1:08:27
  If you know who it is, charge him
• 1:08:29
  with a crime.
• 1:08:30
  Or what about the one she alleged?
• 1:08:32
  $40,000 was stolen from the facility, from
• 1:08:37
  the company, because somebody was counterfeiting tickets.
• 1:08:41
  They were making their own tickets.
• 1:08:43
  Well, did you catch the counterfeiter?
• 1:08:45
  Did you catch that guy?
• 1:08:47
  And why are you punishing the machine?
• 1:08:50
  That makes no sense.
• 1:08:51
  You're going to punish the machine that got
• 1:08:55
  defrauded, the company that got defrauded instead of
• 1:08:59
  the person who did it all.
• 1:09:01
  I forget.
• 1:09:02
  That's your mafia crime link, right?
• 1:09:06
  So, so you got a couple of idiots
• 1:09:08
  making new tickets to turn in, counterfeiting them,
• 1:09:13
  and therefore you penalize the machine owner.
• 1:09:20
  Curious.
• 1:09:21
  Isn't that curious?
• 1:09:23
  Anyway, so let's, this is not a neutral
• 1:09:27
  legal interpretation.
• 1:09:28
  This is prosecutorial branding.
• 1:09:31
  You get to just claim everything is illegal.
• 1:09:33
  Just like Rochelle just claimed that officer easily,
• 1:09:36
  she's never going to prosecute a case from
• 1:09:38
  him because he's a liar.
• 1:09:39
  And now everybody knows it.
• 1:09:41
  They're not a liar.
• 1:09:41
  He's a loose cannon.
• 1:09:43
  And she's put out that I'm not going
• 1:09:46
  to prosecute anything with this guy.
• 1:09:47
  And now every time that guy arrests somebody,
• 1:09:50
  especially for a felony, and when you get
• 1:09:52
  a preliminary hearing and you go to the
• 1:09:53
  preliminary, any lawyer that would not do a
• 1:09:56
  preliminary hearing with that guy now, if he's
• 1:09:59
  on any of the cases, you should immediately
• 1:10:01
  move to dismiss anything that he's got or
• 1:10:04
  immediately call for the preliminary hearing or immediately
• 1:10:08
  take his deposition and go through each and
• 1:10:10
  every one of these videos and point out
• 1:10:12
  the craziness of what he is and say,
• 1:10:14
  so what, how do we know that this
• 1:10:16
  is here?
• 1:10:16
  And I'll bet you get admitted in your
• 1:10:18
  criminal case or Rochelle, who's the prosecutor will
• 1:10:22
  just dismiss it, especially in Camden County, but
• 1:10:24
  it could be in any other.
• 1:10:25
  Well, no, he can only be in Camden,
• 1:10:27
  but well, maybe he's associated with other sort
• 1:10:30
  of task force sort of things.
• 1:10:32
  And, uh, but his activities were pretty damn
• 1:10:34
  frightening on there.
• 1:10:35
  And I'm not any police I'm anti that
• 1:10:38
  sort of behavior all the time.
• 1:10:40
  I got the crap beat out of me
• 1:10:42
  by an idiot cop down here from Osage
• 1:10:45
  beach.
• 1:10:46
  And, uh, he, that guy's an idiot.
• 1:10:48
  I got chased for months by the same
• 1:10:50
  guy when they came in, uh, they, that
• 1:10:52
  guy had pulled me over literally every night,
• 1:10:55
  every night.
• 1:10:56
  And then when I finally stood up to
• 1:10:58
  him and I yelled at him and I,
• 1:10:59
  uh, it was an embarrassing moment in my
• 1:11:01
  life, but, uh, I went through the whole
• 1:11:03
  thing and I took him jury trial twice.
• 1:11:05
  The guy's a liar.
• 1:11:06
  The whole thing is there.
• 1:11:08
  That doesn't, you know, I was found guilty.
• 1:11:10
  All right, great.
• 1:11:11
  After two jury trials, first jury trial, it
• 1:11:14
  was a hung jury, second jury trial, which
• 1:11:16
  is kind of rare.
• 1:11:17
  They went on a second one, but it
• 1:11:18
  was a, I pissed off the attorney general.
• 1:11:20
  Of course they sent somebody down to, uh,
• 1:11:23
  to, uh, charge me.
• 1:11:24
  You know, I was, I was not popular
• 1:11:27
  because I say things like I'm saying right
• 1:11:29
  now, and I don't like government overreach.
• 1:11:32
  You know, I don't like it at all.
• 1:11:33
  They did it to me with licensing.
• 1:11:35
  They're doing it to these businesses with licensing.
• 1:11:39
  If you want to, uh, uh, dig in
• 1:11:41
  on these, uh, on these issues, I'm happy
• 1:11:44
  to do it.
• 1:11:44
  And I'd love to be, to be taught
• 1:11:47
  that this is not true, that my view
• 1:11:50
  of the world, my worldview, my legal view
• 1:11:53
  of the Missouri system is wrong, but it's
• 1:11:56
  not wrong.
• 1:11:58
  It's, it's just not wrong.
• 1:12:00
  The state isn't saying we believe these machines
• 1:12:04
  violate 572 and a court should decide the
• 1:12:07
  state is using tail twisters.
• 1:12:10
  They're beating Catherine Hannaway has a big club
• 1:12:13
  and that club is this, uh, the club
• 1:12:17
  says on the side of it, felony, civil
• 1:12:20
  nuisance, consumer protection, or, or, or business protection.
• 1:12:25
  We're going to protect these owners of these
• 1:12:27
  machines.
• 1:12:27
  No, you're not.
• 1:12:29
  You're, you're taking how, how much did you
• 1:12:31
  say a billion dollars out of the, out
• 1:12:34
  of the Missouri marketplace, a billion dollars.
• 1:12:39
  How much of that revenue would go to
• 1:12:41
  the state of Missouri?
• 1:12:42
  Like I said, Vernetti, when he was in
• 1:12:44
  here, uh, last Friday said that they estimated
• 1:12:47
  to be somewhere between 250 and 300 million
• 1:12:51
  dollars in the Missouri budget.
• 1:12:53
  And she's getting rid of it.
• 1:12:55
  Why?
• 1:12:57
  Because of Kratom?
• 1:12:59
  Because, because, uh, convenience stores are a Haven
• 1:13:04
  for drugs.
• 1:13:06
  What?
• 1:13:08
  Anyway, I bitched about that yesterday.
• 1:13:11
  Let's, let's talk about this.
• 1:13:12
  Um, the local news did a story yesterday
• 1:13:16
  about, uh, because they, Lake TV, I think
• 1:13:20
  it's called.
• 1:13:20
  I watched a short, short, uh, story on
• 1:13:23
  there and what this station is now saying,
• 1:13:27
  and they're wrong.
• 1:13:28
  And this, and I feel like calling them
• 1:13:30
  up.
• 1:13:30
  I know who owns it and I might
• 1:13:32
  correct them, but they, they went off about,
• 1:13:36
  uh, oh gee, uh, Anthony Geier was arrested
• 1:13:39
  and Anthony Geier needs to fight this all
• 1:13:41
  the way.
• 1:13:42
  He needs to have a, a preliminary hearing
• 1:13:45
  in each one of these and force them
• 1:13:47
  to show the proof they have that his
• 1:13:49
  machines do not comply with the Missouri statute.
• 1:13:54
  Show it.
• 1:13:55
  I bet they can't.
• 1:13:57
  I bet they cannot.
• 1:13:58
  And how are they going to?
• 1:13:59
  They haven't, they don't do anything before they
• 1:14:02
  arrest him.
• 1:14:03
  They, they, they didn't go in and they
• 1:14:05
  might've inspected his machines after the fact, but
• 1:14:10
  they didn't know about it beforehand.
• 1:14:11
  And so you charge them with a felony
• 1:14:13
  before, you know, that's crap.
• 1:14:15
  So they go seize all of his stuff
• 1:14:17
  because of her presumption that these are illegal.
• 1:14:21
  That's not right.
• 1:14:23
  It's just not right.
• 1:14:24
  And I would fight it all the way
• 1:14:25
  on principle.
• 1:14:26
  Now, the unfortunate part is she got him
• 1:14:28
  by the nuts because they have to spend
• 1:14:31
  a hundred thousand dollars to defend himself.
• 1:14:35
  I mean, who wants to do that?
• 1:14:37
  And then they'll offer him some crappy plea.
• 1:14:39
  And the only reason they'll offer him a
• 1:14:41
  crappy plea is so that he doesn't sue
• 1:14:43
  them because they need him to plead guilty
• 1:14:45
  to something or he'd sue him.
• 1:14:47
  You know, if it was me, screw her.
• 1:14:49
  I would, I would say if I, but
• 1:14:52
  I do it myself, you know, I have
• 1:14:53
  the ability to do it, to represent myself
• 1:14:55
  in that.
• 1:14:56
  I'd go, all right, fine.
• 1:14:57
  I'll take the risk, you know, and a
• 1:14:59
  lot of people can't take that risk.
• 1:15:01
  Me, I'd take the risk.
• 1:15:03
  Hell with it.
• 1:15:03
  You know, I've done it before.
• 1:15:05
  And, and let's take the risk.
• 1:15:07
  Let's go out and take, take these machines,
• 1:15:09
  but you should have something before you arrest
• 1:15:13
  me, not after you shouldn't be able to
• 1:15:16
  come in, shut down a business and then
• 1:15:19
  say, well, we suspect that, that imagine this,
• 1:15:23
  they come in and they see white powder
• 1:15:25
  on your kitchen countertop while they're there.
• 1:15:30
  I don't know what have you invite them
• 1:15:32
  in for coffee and happens to be a
• 1:15:35
  cop in uniform.
• 1:15:36
  You invite them in for coffee.
• 1:15:37
  And there's the, there's the powdery substance on
• 1:15:41
  your countertop.
• 1:15:43
  And they just, Oh my God, there's powdery
• 1:15:46
  substance looks white on your countertop.
• 1:15:48
  I'm going to arrest you.
• 1:15:49
  Well, but wait a minute.
• 1:15:51
  Wait a minute.
• 1:15:52
  That's powdered sugar.
• 1:15:53
  I don't get it.
• 1:15:54
  No, no, no.
• 1:15:55
  We're, we're, we're taking it.
• 1:15:56
  They have to have something.
• 1:15:57
  They got to put their finger in it
• 1:15:59
  and say, you know, this is cocaine or
• 1:16:01
  identified it as cocaine, something, have a dog
• 1:16:04
  come in and sniff it.
• 1:16:05
  Give you something.
• 1:16:07
  They got nothing.
• 1:16:09
  They got nothing.
• 1:16:10
  They haven't done any of that.
• 1:16:11
  Now, arguably, if the cop is in there,
• 1:16:13
  sure.
• 1:16:13
  You could, you could check on that.
• 1:16:15
  You wouldn't want that cop to be easily
• 1:16:17
  because Rochelle wouldn't charge if it was easily.
• 1:16:21
  And rightly so, in my opinion, I think
• 1:16:24
  that's a good decision on her part because
• 1:16:26
  somebody needs to start holding cops accountable and
• 1:16:29
  nobody does.
• 1:16:30
  And you know, that like, like Eisenberg planting
• 1:16:33
  evidence on people all those years ago, which
• 1:16:36
  is my first foray into 42 USC, 1983
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  going against state actors and my first bump
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  against qualified immunity and how crap it was.
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  Well, he wouldn't be eligible for qualified immunity
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  because he was a liar and their law
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  is clear that you can't lie.
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  But as soon as it becomes unclear and
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  it relates specifically to your situation, you'll get
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  away with it almost every time.
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  Can't tell you how many wrongful death or,
• 1:17:09
  or 1983 cases when people got killed by
• 1:17:15
  the cops that you still lose.
• 1:17:17
  And then, then on top of that, the
• 1:17:19
  jury is extremely forgiving because they're police and
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  they'll let them off.
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  I had, I had cops get off the
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  hook that were raping or screwing the girls
• 1:17:28
  in the jail.
• 1:17:30
  And they get off, they get off on
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  it because they give the girls cigarettes.
• 1:17:34
  And so they turn the girls into the
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  hooker.
• 1:17:37
  And why would we punish the guy who's
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  sleeping with a hooker that she's, you know,
• 1:17:43
  trading her goodies for a few cigarettes.
• 1:17:47
  She's the one who should be punished, not
• 1:17:49
  this poor, innocent, defenseless, married officer.
• 1:17:53
  That guy shouldn't be, you know, people give
• 1:17:56
  them the benefit of the doubt all the
• 1:17:57
  time.
• 1:17:58
  I don't give a benefit of doubt to
• 1:17:59
  those slime balls.
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  No way.
• 1:18:02
  Even if the girl, let's say that's accurate,
• 1:18:05
  that the girl's a hooker.
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  So what?
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  You're supposed to be better than that.
• 1:18:09
  You're an officer of the law.
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  I hold you to a hundred times higher
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  standard than I hold some felon girl that's
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  in jail trying to get a, you know,
• 1:18:19
  money to buy tampons every month.
• 1:18:21
  So she doesn't have to take the crap
• 1:18:23
  that they're giving you or the given, you
• 1:18:25
  know, given out standard.
• 1:18:27
  She, you know, what were they making at
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  the time?
• 1:18:29
  30 bucks a month to work in a
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  place.
• 1:18:33
  And how do you get those jobs?
• 1:18:34
  Ask yourself that question in a woman's prison.
• 1:18:38
  Anyway, I'm ranting a little bit about that,
• 1:18:40
  but you know, let's go back to the
• 1:18:42
  slot machines on this.
• 1:18:44
  A slot machine looking device is not illegal
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  because Catherine Hannaway says it is, says it
• 1:18:50
  looks illegal.
• 1:18:51
  It's illegal.
• 1:18:52
  If Missouri law has clearly defined it as
• 1:18:54
  illegal and a court applied that law to
• 1:18:57
  the machine, that software, that payout structure and
• 1:19:00
  that factual record, there are plenty of cities
• 1:19:02
  trying to get through this.
• 1:19:04
  Notably the city of Lori trying to get
• 1:19:08
  through this and operate it and say, look,
• 1:19:11
  we don't understand chapter 532.
• 1:19:15
  We don't understand it.
• 1:19:17
  So we're going to attempt to define it
• 1:19:19
  and make some money off it because, you
• 1:19:22
  know, if they're going to be in the
• 1:19:23
  machines, we want to, you know, the state's
• 1:19:25
  already getting their chunk of money.
• 1:19:26
  Not according to Catherine Hannaway.
• 1:19:28
  She said it's a billion dollars, all cash,
• 1:19:31
  unaccounted for, untaxed, is what she said in
• 1:19:33
  that article.
• 1:19:34
  That is not true.
• 1:19:36
  She doesn't have any evidence of that, that
• 1:19:38
  this is this billion dollars.
• 1:19:40
  How, if it's not being taxed, how is
• 1:19:42
  Vernetti sitting here telling me that the state
• 1:19:45
  is losing 250 to 300 a year and
• 1:19:47
  Catherine Hannaway is the one who's destroying that
• 1:19:50
  market, destroying that money for Missouri?
• 1:19:53
  I don't get it.
• 1:19:55
  That's, you know, I'm not, just like I'm
• 1:19:58
  not declaring those machines legal or illegal, I'm
• 1:20:02
  not declaring deputy easily guilty of anything.
• 1:20:05
  You know, I'm, you know, I'm saying that
• 1:20:08
  when a prosecutor says a deputy is damaging
• 1:20:11
  the cases and that she's not going to
• 1:20:13
  use him as an, as a leg of
• 1:20:15
  evidence for any case she brings anymore, then
• 1:20:18
  the sheriff responds publicly and says, I defend
• 1:20:22
  the deputy.
• 1:20:23
  This isn't a personality dispute.
• 1:20:26
  This is a justice system problem.
• 1:20:28
  And it's right here, local, you know, a
• 1:20:31
  prosecutor has to put credible evidence in front
• 1:20:34
  of the court.
• 1:20:35
  And she's just given a method for any
• 1:20:37
  defense attorney to forever prove that easily is
• 1:20:40
  not credible or that he's a bad actor.
• 1:20:44
  And trust me, a jury won't like that.
• 1:20:47
  A sheriff has run a department and defend
• 1:20:49
  deputies from any unfair attack.
• 1:20:52
  I've seen those videos.
• 1:20:53
  I don't think it's an unfair attack.
• 1:20:55
  I, of course, I'm, I could be slanted
• 1:20:58
  because of my own history.
• 1:20:59
  You can look at that and go, no,
• 1:21:01
  that's a tough cop.
• 1:21:02
  Yeah.
• 1:21:02
  This is what cops are supposed to do.
• 1:21:04
  No, it's not.
• 1:21:06
  That is not what cops are supposed to
• 1:21:08
  do.
• 1:21:08
  You know, a deputy has to make arrests
• 1:21:11
  lawfully, truthfully, professionally with a camera on.
• 1:21:15
  You don't get a flip it off when
• 1:21:17
  you're not doing it or you don't get
• 1:21:19
  to hide the evidence when it is in
• 1:21:22
  there.
• 1:21:24
  A defendant has the right to challenge a
• 1:21:27
  bad stop, a bad arrest, a bad report,
• 1:21:31
  bad behavior on a body cam video and
• 1:21:35
  any credibility problem.
• 1:21:38
  So if the prosecutor cannot trust the deputy
• 1:21:41
  and she says she doesn't, then every case
• 1:21:43
  involving that deputy is a disclosure problem, a
• 1:21:47
  credibility problem, a suppression problem, and a possible
• 1:21:52
  Brady problem.
• 1:21:56
  Even if the sheriff thinks the prosecutor is
• 1:21:58
  just grandstanding.
• 1:22:00
  And even if the prosecutor thinks the sheriff
• 1:22:03
  is protecting a bad officer, the issue is
• 1:22:06
  the same for the public and for any
• 1:22:07
  defendant.
• 1:22:08
  Can this officer's case be trusted in court?
• 1:22:11
  The answer to that question is absolutely not.
• 1:22:14
  As a lawyer, I'd love to have that
• 1:22:15
  guy as the officer on any charge for
• 1:22:19
  my guy.
• 1:22:20
  And anybody who's looking as a Camden County
• 1:22:24
  charge or a charge anywhere related to this
• 1:22:28
  guy, they need to check this out and
• 1:22:30
  ask for all video regarding everything he's got.
• 1:22:33
  Start quizzing him.
• 1:22:34
  Put the guy under oath for a deposition.
• 1:22:37
  Do it.
• 1:22:38
  You'll win.
• 1:22:39
  Ask the prosecutor.
• 1:22:41
  Put her under a deposition and say, why
• 1:22:44
  do you think this way?
• 1:22:45
  Tell me what you think.
• 1:22:46
  And get a record of this guy.
• 1:22:48
  This guy is destroyed now no matter what.
• 1:22:51
  Rightly, wrongly, maybe deserves it, maybe doesn't.
• 1:22:54
  I'm not supposed to judge to that.
• 1:22:57
  But let's talk about this and how this
• 1:23:00
  connects to my bigger theme of the week,
• 1:23:02
  which is these gaming machines.
• 1:23:04
  The same system.
• 1:23:06
  What if this guy went in and arrested
• 1:23:09
  somebody for having a gambling device?
• 1:23:14
  Same analysis.
• 1:23:16
  I'd say, you know, screw that guy.
• 1:23:17
  Let's put him under oath because nobody's going
• 1:23:21
  to believe a word he says.
• 1:23:22
  He's done.
• 1:23:23
  And the same system that wants to call
• 1:23:25
  small business owners criminals for having a machine
• 1:23:28
  at a convenience store also depends on officers,
• 1:23:32
  prosecutors, agencies that act without discipline or credibility.
• 1:23:37
  And if the government wants felony power, seizure
• 1:23:40
  power, raid power, and shutdown power, then the
• 1:23:44
  government should earn our trust.
• 1:23:47
  And I don't have mine.
• 1:23:49
  Not remotely.
• 1:23:50
  And government doesn't get to be sloppy with
• 1:23:54
  definitions, with people.
• 1:23:57
  And it has to be precise with its
• 1:24:00
  own definitions and immunity.
• 1:24:03
  And Hanoi is not being that way.
• 1:24:05
  If I'm Geyer, I'm telling you what, every
• 1:24:09
  single charge that's a felony.
• 1:24:12
  And why is he being charged with felonies
• 1:24:14
  in the chicken?
• 1:24:15
  I just didn't say that.
• 1:24:16
  Woman in the next county is being charged
• 1:24:19
  with misdemeanors only for the exact same thing.
• 1:24:22
  You know, I haven't seen the machines yet,
• 1:24:24
  but they're still.
• 1:24:27
  Why would one, why is one prosecutor do
• 1:24:29
  it?
• 1:24:30
  It's all selective.
• 1:24:31
  It's all propaganda.
• 1:24:32
  It's all nonsense because nobody has a definition
• 1:24:35
  for these machines.
• 1:24:36
  But here they are having to put up
• 1:24:38
  a hundred thousand bucks to defend themselves because
• 1:24:40
  nobody wants to define this.
• 1:24:42
  And they don't want to wait.
• 1:24:43
  She don't want to wait for the state
• 1:24:45
  to better define chapter 572.
• 1:24:51
  She's running for governor.
• 1:24:52
  She announced it to the AP, you know,
• 1:24:54
  months ago.
• 1:24:55
  She's running for governor.
• 1:24:56
  She's putting her hat in the ring.
• 1:24:58
  She's already doing it.
• 1:24:59
  So what does she want to do?
• 1:25:00
  She wants to be law enforcement friendly because
• 1:25:02
  that's what people like in Missouri.
• 1:25:06
  I like it.
• 1:25:07
  I'm not against law enforcement.
• 1:25:09
  They have a necessary role in our society.
• 1:25:12
  I'm against bad law enforcement.
• 1:25:14
  I'm tired of them calling it law enforcement.
• 1:25:16
  Anyway, whatever happened to policing, why do you
• 1:25:19
  focus on the enforcement all the time?
• 1:25:22
  We've got enforcement.
• 1:25:23
  We've got to beat up on people.
• 1:25:25
  Got to wear my SWAT gear, you know,
• 1:25:27
  to pull Sam over for going into lane
• 1:25:29
  two instead of lane one, allegedly, or because
• 1:25:34
  he weaved in, weaved at one 30 in
• 1:25:37
  the morning.
• 1:25:38
  You know, apparently that was, I'm the only
• 1:25:40
  guy on the road, the only guy on
• 1:25:44
  the highway.
• 1:25:45
  There were no cars forever until I passed
• 1:25:47
  that cop.
• 1:25:49
  So that's on the freeway on interstate.
• 1:25:52
  What is that?
• 1:25:53
  75 over there at 95.
• 1:25:55
  Sorry, that's 95.
• 1:25:57
  So let's talk about, and I don't have
• 1:25:59
  much time for it, the FBI wronghouse raid
• 1:26:01
  in the Supreme Court, nine to nothing.
• 1:26:03
  So the Martin family, FBI agents had a
• 1:26:08
  warrant, pre-dawn raid, used flashbangs, detained the
• 1:26:13
  family at gunpoint, and then realized they had
• 1:26:16
  the wrong house after seeing mail with the
• 1:26:19
  wrong address.
• 1:26:20
  Family sued under Federal Tort Claims Act.
• 1:26:23
  Government argued immunity because of their discretionary function.
• 1:26:28
  And the Supreme Court official opinion in Martin
• 1:26:31
  v.
• 1:26:32
  United States said the case involves whether and
• 1:26:35
  when the discretionary function exception bars suit for
• 1:26:39
  wronghouse raids.
• 1:26:40
  And the court vacated that judgment and remanded
• 1:26:43
  it to the 11th Circuit to re-examine
• 1:26:46
  the case.
• 1:26:48
  And the government always wants an escape hatch,
• 1:26:51
  this discretion.
• 1:26:52
  We had discretion to raid.
• 1:26:54
  We had discretion to plan.
• 1:26:55
  We had discretion to execute.
• 1:26:58
  We had discretion to interpret.
• 1:26:59
  And if we have discretion, we have immunity,
• 1:27:02
  right?
• 1:27:04
  And how they always defend themselves is the
• 1:27:08
  arrests, law enforcement decisions made in real time,
• 1:27:12
  that's discretionary.
• 1:27:13
  And the prosecutor says, no, the deputator's conduct
• 1:27:16
  is compromising prosecution and damaging cases everywhere.
• 1:27:23
  That's what it's happening.
• 1:27:24
  Hannaway, these are illegal machines.
• 1:27:26
  Shut them down or face felony civil consequences.
• 1:27:29
  The business is saying, wait, you're using legal
• 1:27:32
  uncertainty as a weapon before the legislature or
• 1:27:36
  the courts, admittedly by you, have stated clearly
• 1:27:40
  the rules that are going to be statewide.
• 1:27:45
  So across all of these lines, the government
• 1:27:48
  wants discretion, deference.
• 1:27:51
  The citizens need accountability and they rarely get
• 1:27:54
  it.
• 1:27:56
  They rarely get it.
• 1:27:59
  So I don't know.
• 1:28:03
  Qualified immunity wasn't really on the ticket for
• 1:28:07
  this Martin case, but qualified immunity will protect
• 1:28:11
  the, because that's 42 USC 1983, individual government
• 1:28:15
  officers.
• 1:28:15
  And it was a little bit different because
• 1:28:17
  it was a federal tort claims act case
• 1:28:19
  against the United States for an FBI wrong
• 1:28:22
  house rate.
• 1:28:23
  And they probably went this route to get
• 1:28:25
  around this qualified immunity because the federal tort
• 1:28:30
  claims acts, discretionary function exception, and whether the
• 1:28:33
  supremacy clause gives the federal government a defense.
• 1:28:36
  The court said that the law enforcement proviso
• 1:28:39
  overrides only the intentional tort exemption, not the
• 1:28:44
  discretionary function, but it also rejected the 11th
• 1:28:47
  circuit supremacy clause defense and sent the case
• 1:28:50
  back.
• 1:28:51
  So I'm interested to see that.
• 1:28:54
  And when it comes out and it's supposed
• 1:28:56
  to be any time now.
• 1:28:58
  So anyway, that's the end of the show
• 1:29:00
  for today.
• 1:29:01
  I'm glad you were here.
• 1:29:02
  I'm Samuel Trapp.
• 1:29:03
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• 1:29:05
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• 1:29:08
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• 1:29:12
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• 1:29:14
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• 1:29:18
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• 1:29:22
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• 1:29:23
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• 1:29:26
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