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#50: Hostel (2005) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? You are free to go.
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  Welcome to what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  The podcast where we talk about? Our least favorite aspects on
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  most debatable opinions of our most favorite scary movies fight
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  of our favorites. My name is Jesse, my name is
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  Travis. And unfortunately, it's
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  November, it's November. It's November 1st when we're
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  recording this. We are very tired.
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  Yeah. Like but in a good way, like
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  October's just been a busy month.
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  We're excited to slow down a little bit.
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  I think we've got some fun stuff coming.
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  This month and we're excited to kind of kind of really get our
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  shit together. Yeah, October has been very
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  chaotic. We've, I mean, we haven't done
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  more episodes than normal, but we've had a lot of outside.
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  Think we spent two bonus episodes this month.
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  Oh, that's right. Yeah.
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  So we've done a lot more and then we have the, we have the
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  convention we did. Our water scream screen.
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  Yeah. It's check our website, if you
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  need recommendations on movies to watch just because it's
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  November, it doesn't mean you can't keep watching horror
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  movies. I mean you're here with us.
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  Hi, thanks again for that. So you know go get some of your
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  What's really scary is going to be.com just look under our
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  screen screen, it's in our blog section.
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  I don't know why I didn't put it in the review section probably
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  now because it kind of lends its way easily man.
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  Our Instagram is least favorite scary movie podcast or Twitter
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  is least fav pod. And our Facebook page is just
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  our name, and that's that. Yeah, that's that's all of them.
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  We have a tick tock. Technically, I I'm very sporadic
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  about checking it. Yeah.
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  It's it's a thing. It's a thing, it's a thing.
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  When we were in the mood to do it, it's kind of all over the
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  place. We do, have you have a plan for
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  it? Come the new year.
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  We got some stuff, but I'm not gonna like talk myself into a
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  corner in case I decide that I hate the idea, I have.
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  So yeah, we're not here to talk about our Tick-Tock account.
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  We're here to talk about the spooky movie.
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  And I am sorry for those Like Jesse who are you?
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  I Rock Fans. But this is another, you are off
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  movie, it is, and we're talking about hostile today, we are
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  talking about hostile. Now I'm going to say this
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  because I know I said a lot of stuff about Eli Roth.
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  The last time we talked about him which was in cabin fever and
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  I'm just going to reiterate that I totally respect what he's done
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  for her. I totally respect that.
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  He's a geek for the genre. Some of his onset practices I'm
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  a little iffy about. Yeah we'll try not to like tread
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  on, you know. Yeah your territory with this
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  but it's some of the stuff is going to naturally come up.
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  Yeah if you want to hear a more detailed discussion about all
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  that go check out our cabin fever episode is like over the
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  summer I was in June I think this number 27 yeah I was
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  looking today. Okay okay here baby this is
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  number 50 this yes no thanks Here again, um, why do you keep
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  saying that like things are in here?
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  So hostile is a very special episode then yeah.
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  So but just bearing in mind and like we talked about this all
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  the time. We're both big horror movie fans
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  ourselves. We just have been, the whole
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  point of our podcast. Is that different people like
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  different things and a horror movie, like, it's good to have
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  this kind of friendly discourse where you can talk about what
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  you do and don't like. And that everybody's opinion is
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  valid as long as you're not an asshole and direct and directly
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  attacking people, And this, my opinions on this movie are not
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  related to Eli Roth, they're just related to the movie.
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  Cool. Yeah.
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  We'll keep this question. Yeah.
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  I like it's a, it's a nice statement type of podcast, you
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  know, like I feel this way about this movie, not Eli Roth.
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  Did this to me, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah, so that's fair. Yeah, that's, that's the right
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  way to do it. We're as objectively subjective,
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  as we can be here. At least, what's your least
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  favorite scary movie. All right, give us a give us.
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  Some information on this. By the way, we have a Blu-ray
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  version of this. Yeah, we have ordered or did you
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  find it at? We got this books, Half Price.
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  Books is where we got this. Well that was a good find.
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  Yeah, they have some good stuff out there.
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  It's, you know, they even have Scream Factory stuff for those.
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  Like the guy was telling us all about it when we were checking
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  out. Yeah, I'm so glad we got the guy
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  that we did when we were checking out, you got the guy I
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  got the person that I was checking out and I had pieces or
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  Add a floor. It's a form of a collection
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  called bloodbath and it has pieces and like, for other
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  movies. And the cover is don't even
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  think it's from a movie. It's just a woman laying like in
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  a tub covered in blood and I I've sensed judgment So I mean
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  we chose to willingly own pieces and I think that warrants
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  judgment. Yeah I don't think so.
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  This is great. We'll talk about that eventually
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  we will but hostile let's actually get on with the all
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  right today. So hostile 2005.
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  Yes. It came out into some 2005 kind
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  of that's when I had its its Festival debut.
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  You are already pointing aggressively at me.
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  This is going to be a contentious episode.
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  Road. Yes, it came out in 2005, but
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  yes, but technically speaking of, but there's a lot of, but in
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  this ver is a lot about. Yeah, there's a lot of nudity,
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  if that makes you uncomfortable. Don't watch this movie then, but
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  yeah, anyways, it came out in 2006.
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  In January, January 6th, I believe so close to your
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  birthday. Oh my God.
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  You almost had that birthday horror movie that you could have
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  went to. Oh, man.
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  Do I know something fun. What?
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  My dad took me to see this when we came out.
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  What what did he think about it? What did you think about
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  watching this with your dad? It was awkward.
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  So 2006 January, I would have been 14.
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  Actually 13. Yeah, I would have been 13.
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  So I must have saw, are like seen the trailer and was really
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  into it. I was like, did I gotta can we
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  please go watch this movie? And I guess was, like, dad's
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  like. Okay, fine, I'll take you, okay,
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  but at least it was your dad and not your mom.
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  Yeah. I've watched some awkward movies
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  with him and I just remember like a lot of the nudity scenes,
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  I was wearing a hat at the time and I'm like just for his sake.
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  Like I felt weird looking so I would like to put my head down
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  and just like not look at anything.
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  I watched this movie with my mom at home on DVD in that is when I
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  learned the phrase fucking a. Yeah.
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  Because at the end when the people get hit by the car, you
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  know, when he's like speeding towards the train station and
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  sees suspect Lon Anna Natalya and Alex and he just like hits
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  them. My mom went fucking a and I was
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  like oh man. New vocabulary word.
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  The old were you 14. I guess it was around the same
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  age. So when Rick came out, yeah,
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  okay. Yeah.
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  This movie Dethrone the, The Chronicles of Narnia.
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  From the box office, we did see Chronicles of Narnia in theater.
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  I saw that the school field trip.
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  Yeah, so yeah, in the theater and also in home release.
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  So like whenever they both came out, simultaneously hostile be
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  there both times so I know that that was a big movie to be.
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  I came out in 2006. Six.
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  Had an at estimated bug. Ted of 4.8 million and the
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  opening weekend, it made 19.5 and worldwide gross.
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  Overall was it 8 e 1.9. So this thing did pretty well.
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  It did. It's a very notorious.
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  Yeah, so one of the early torture porn.
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  Also, just kind of porn porn for the first.
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  Yeah. Five minutes.
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  It starts the first 20 to 30 minutes of this movie is
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  basically, like, kind of like, you know, like Dude bro, like
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  yeah. Backpacking movie where people
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  are having sex and it's just a lot of nudity but pattern sex
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  questioning their sexuality. Yeah.
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  Smoking weed getting crabs. Well we're jock itch that's a
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  deleted scene to so I don't even think they brush on the actual
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  thing. Kind of fun.
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  We had. Yes.
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  Oh yeah, this isn't a popular movie, though.
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  In the Czech Republic in Iceland.
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  Okay. So what do I swear?
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  Actually cool with them, sorry Slovakia.
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  Probably yes, walkie. And the Czech Republic, which
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  used to be Czechoslovakia. So basically yeah.
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  What's your halves of a whole? I mean understandable because
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  they were upset that it painted out their country to be like
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  poor and just, you know, underdeveloped which is really
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  funny because in the behind, the scenes stuff, Eli Roth was
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  talking about how fucking beautiful Prague is, which is
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  where they were shooting know. It started off with Eli Roth
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  complaining, about the toilets and how if you shit you I can
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  feel the heat coming from the toilet.
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  Yeah, well, that too, but like I know the actress that plays
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  Natalia was talking behind the scenes.
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  She was like, we do not have child, gangs demanding
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  Bubblegum, and Slovakia and nobody on set believes me.
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  Those kids were actually like Street kids like they weren't
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  cast. Like, there's just, you know,
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  there's a whole Bondi features are going around, mugging people
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  for bubblegum, maybe not. They were, I don't know.
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  They want to see. No, you know so yeah it was
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  very, very popular but not with those two people for obvious
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  reasons to people yet, mr. Mr. Chuck and mr.
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  Slovakia. They're not fans of this movie.
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  Yeah, so guys, it's prudes. It was produced by Tarantino.
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  So the way that this movie actually came to be was Eli
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  Roth, was planning on making a documentary on vacation murders.
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  So I people like He came across like a website on like that tie
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  website that people could apparently purchase people to
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  buy and murder. Yes you've raised your hand, I
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  literally did raise my hand, I do this in casual conversation
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  all the time our friends and family can confirm um I can
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  confirm Eli Roth's just like for funsies browse the dark web
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  because the sad things like web shit.
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  Yeah, that's dumb. Shit in here and they don't know
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  if this website was like legitimate or not.
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  But naturally what he did was he showed at the Quentin Tarantino
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  and as you do and in doing, so they both kind of like, all
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  right. Well this is kind of dangerous
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  to research. Well it's let's make it into
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  this instead, I'm sorry, but I want to hear a conversation
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  between the two of them because I can see though there's a whole
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  series of that in his show on AMC.
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  Is it them talking to each other?
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  Yeah, there's even a podcast episode of it.
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  They appointment like, where it's unedited.
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  I've listened to the episode Quinn, Tarantino knows his
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  Horror. Oh I'm sure Quentin Tarantino
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  does. I like I firmly understand why
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  they would get along. I just feel like they have two
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  very different styles of speaking.
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  He's very much, they're both very much excited by.
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  They have like different levels of energy.
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  Quentin Tarantino's, like kind of manic.
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  Yeah. You know, a Roth is more like
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  he's excited but, you know, he he's control.
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  Yeah. He's a negro.
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  Exactly. He's a geek bro.
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  Yeah, I'm like I mean it's true. He is a bro.
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  Yeah, he's a pro for sure. Yeah, it's very obvious with
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  these movies and all the dialogue and characters like it
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  all the behind-the-scenes stuff with him too.
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  Like he immediately he's like taking a dump in Prague and he
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  uses the word dumped to be fair, I thought that was funny.
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  I'm no after me whenever we let off the special feature like all
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  right. So we're taking a shit here in
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  Prague dump. He says dumb.
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  Yeah. Okay, take an oar.
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  We're taking a dump here, in Prague.
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  My God. Taking a deuce picking to Deuce.
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  We've, I had my covid-19 last week and I had a fever and was
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  not allowed to go to work the next day.
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  So I did what I do on a sick day and watched 10 hours of Wife,
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  Swap and Travis, just joined in on the marathon when he got home
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  from work and there was one kid whose name was deuce and Travis
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  cannot. Over it that show.
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  I think they like one of the criteria for a family's dumb
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  child names because that's like pretty much any time I watch
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  that show with you. One of the kids has a stupid
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  name. It's confirmed like I think, I
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  think that's part of it. I'm just going to run with that
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  not look it up. Last fact before we actually get
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  into the movie is the we thought that Greg nicotero, you know, a
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  guy could Unix. Yeah.
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  He We thought that he was involved because in the opening
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  credits, like his name is actually listed there.
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  But I did some digging and it's really him and Howard Burgers
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  effects team knb. EFX?
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  Yeah. So I didn't catch, I saw the
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  makeup of them putting it like whenever the guy was doing canis
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  arcanas, can't ya, her makeup that guy?
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  I saw him in a lot of the shots with that and I tried to find
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  who he was, but I couldn't find him there.
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  So many people, listen, I'm, they be no pictures.
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  Google search, and some of these people I couldn't find anything.
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  Hold on. Let's see what he looks like.
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  All right, do me a pause? No.
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  Okay I can type really fast. It's fine.
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  I'm going really fast. I think it was Howard Berger
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  because look you know subtract 15 years maybe kind of wood
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  looks a little bit like them. Yeah.
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  No. Actually no.
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  I don't think it's him. Well it looks closed.
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  I got. But yeah, I like and I can see
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  you two like if you co-own an effect Studio like it would make
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  sense to not have both of you going to the same production
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  because Greg nicotero has been crazy busy since he was 17 and
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  George. Romero.
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  Convinced him to drop out of medical school.
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  Yeah, we learned that yeah weekend.
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  Yeah, just a plug for Daddy shutter.
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  Once again yeah I'm gonna get a cease-and-desist letter Greg
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  angler uh you haven't gotten one from Kane.
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  You're not going to get one from them.
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  Joe Bob. Did I like cause shutter is
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  partnered with it's under the same branches, AMC, am cont own
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  shutter, Omega something, whatever.
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  However that stuff works and they wanted to like plug the
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  last half of the last season of The Walking Dead.
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  I don't know. Anyway, so they had a surprise
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  like last drive and special of the first two episodes of The
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  Walking Dead. In Greg nicotero came on and
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  talked about all kinds of stuff. So go check that out.
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  Yeah. Like they need our plugs.
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  Yeah. But yeah.
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  It's on shutter or am z+. Yeah, not war.
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  It's on both. Yeah, it's well, that's that's,
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  that's all I've got for that. We have some more facts that I'm
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  going to sprinkle into the conversation as we approach
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  those. Yeah, yeah, a little
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  behind-the-scenes stuff and all the deleted scenes and
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  everything. Which I'm going to say this, I
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  think this is really cool and I wish that more.
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  Filmmakers did this when we have the deleted scenes like there
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  was a little factoid about why this line was cut.
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  Yeah. It's like a little bit of like a
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  wall of text explaining. Yeah, it's Eli Roth like this
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  right here is where his, you know, his love for movies.
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  And yeah, that shines like this is like, I love the scene.
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  But, you know, shit like we already explained this waiter
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  and he's a hard worker. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Like definitely.
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  And he puts everything he has into it, and then he brings his
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  family along. Ang so his brother can film him
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  doing everything. Is that his brother?
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  That's gonna get real. Wrong hands, mom.
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  And dad are on satu, I mean, two of their sons were there.
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  Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Gabriel Roth is the one who did
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  the behind the scenes for cabin fever, too.
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  He's also the guy and that one shot to the guy that killed
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  people, you know, whatever. The Holy Cross family looks so
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  bizarrely alike. Yeah, they do.
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  Okay. So hostile, what did you think
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  of this one, Jesse? Okay.
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  This is a tricky one for me because I remember when it first
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  came out being really into it because you know something that
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  wasn't super common at the time. Yeah.
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  Like we had this in Saw and then it kind of kicked off the whole
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  thing's talking about before this.
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  Yeah so saw kind of kick that off and then people were this is
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  like the it's kind of coming up at this point.
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  Yeah so I remember I remember liking it the first time I
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  watched it and it's one that I've watched several times
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  throughout the years I have seen the entire Trilogy several
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  times, but I like, as I've gotten older and More aware of
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  what I like in a story. I like this movie less and less.
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  Okay, it feels very disjointed to have linked.
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  It just feels like the first half is all partying in tits and
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  ass which like you know we have fun with that that's good that's
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  valid but like it feels very disjointed.
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  Like it feels like a party movie and then all of a sudden it
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  becomes a horror movie halfway through Wanted to use those two
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  things as like a way to like juxtaposed.
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  So I keep wanted it. Like you wanted to show that the
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  extremity of sexuality with everything like with them in a
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  red light district with that because I mean it's like the
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  rooms are very similar to like what happens to later on and I
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  get it like that was like supposed to be the extremity of
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  violence that the yeah. We've got self-indulgence to
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  both extremes. Yeah, exactly.
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  I get it. We've got like a weird kind of
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  like it's not fair of just for like, you know, tits and ass,
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  you know? Yeah, no, I get that.
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  And it's a very like Like they go to the red light district and
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  they're using their American Tourist dollars to, you know,
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  party it up with the ladies and then you know it we see the flip
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  side of it, all of these rich businessmen using their money to
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  like to kill Americans. Yeah.
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  So I get what the purpose was. I just don't have fun watching
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  it because it gets very A very repetitive, you know what I
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  mean? There's only so many times you
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  can watch these kids. Go to a club and like, you're
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  just like. Yeah.
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  And then also, I feel like the wrong character survived.
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  I feel like it should have been Josh.
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  He was a more interesting character.
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  He was showing more growth earlier on.
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  Yeah, and I feel like it was meant to like subvert, that
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  exit. Ooh, I think Josh definitely has
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  like, he fits the mold of your character, your main character
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  in the first half of the movie. Which I, you know, I kind of
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  like when that stuff happens. That's what I like that but it's
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  just so hard to root for Paxton like you root for him just by
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  way of the fact that you don't want to root for the evil
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  torture e businessmen, you know what I mean?
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  Like he's not a likeable character.
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  Yeah, I get it. So I know.
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  So what do you rate it? I think I'm gonna give it a four
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  for four it kind of felt before coming from you.
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  There, that's the body language of a for ya.
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  Like like I said it's a technically well-made movie and
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  it's, you know, the work that went into writing the script to
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  make everything make sense and be cohesive all the editing, the
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  production, all of that. I respect it, I just it's not
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  mine. A jam.
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  I don't like the pacing of it. I don't feel creeped out until
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  halfway through it like that. 45 minutes is too much.
• 20:28
  Exposition this movie is an hour and a half and if I was shocked,
• 20:33
  when I saw with an hour and a half, I firmly in my brain feel
• 20:36
  like it's a two-hour movie. Really.
• 20:38
  Yes. And I don't mean that in a good
• 20:40
  way. I don't think it takes that long
• 20:42
  for it to get to that part. I feel like it's more around,
• 20:46
  let's say, like, 30 35 minutes, maybe, I don't know.
• 20:50
  I mean, that's still really Close though.
• 20:51
  Like yeah, I mean but, you know, that's all that's a lot of time.
• 20:57
  I don't know. I just, I felt like it was kind
• 20:59
  of unnecessary. Okay.
• 21:01
  I I really like this movie and I've always collected, I know a
• 21:07
  lot of people aren't necessarily a fan of the torture porn stuff,
• 21:11
  torture porn. I feel like they use that as a
• 21:13
  term for the genre, like, in a way to discredit it but then
• 21:17
  people have kind of embraced and it's become like torture porn,
• 21:20
  like People like okay cool. Like it's yeah like it feels
• 21:23
  where ristic to watch stuff like this and I don't think people
• 21:26
  really like to admit that to themselves.
• 21:29
  Yeah. And like I I like torture porn.
• 21:33
  I didn't say it like in. That's kind of one of the things
• 21:36
  about horror in general is you're confronting ugly shit.
• 21:39
  And if you're not confronting ugly shit in your horror, I mean
• 21:43
  like I'm not going to tell anybody how to watch their
• 21:44
  horror movies but I get more out of it when I'm like this does
• 21:48
  ugly. Yeah.
• 21:49
  Like I enjoy. So I enjoy where we movies that,
• 21:54
  you know, better fun and, you know, they're scary and they're
• 21:58
  creepy, but they're not grotesque, but Like this type of
• 22:03
  movie right here Hassel it plays on a different type of fear for
• 22:07
  me like it plays off of like actually visually seeing all the
• 22:10
  shit that's happening on the settings or extremely creepy.
• 22:15
  I like the way that everything they did a great job getting
• 22:18
  locations and getting everything set up basically gives you like,
• 22:23
  no, no, just like this feeling of hopelessness specially like
• 22:25
  they shot in an abandoned Hospital.
• 22:27
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 22:29
  Abandoned hospitals are fucking creepy.
• 22:31
  Yeah I mean like non abandoned hospitals are fucking creepy so
• 22:37
  I mean and I understand that the first half of the movie has a
• 22:40
  water just like the same shit then partying whatever you're
• 22:43
  not really getting a lot of character development but you're
• 22:45
  getting a little bit of something.
• 22:47
  It's always giving you something it would maybe be better if the
• 22:51
  characters were more likeable. Yeah, like I don't really care
• 22:54
  that these guys, the one that I care the most about was Josh and
• 22:57
  even he's kind of You know. Yeah, I wanted to see some more
• 23:00
  because there was definitely some of him questioning his
• 23:03
  sexuality and I would have liked to explore that a little bit
• 23:05
  more because only in Paxton are like trying to push the effects
• 23:10
  workers. Yeah, he's not comfortable when
• 23:12
  he's not comfortable with it and, you know, you kind of hear
• 23:15
  the like recent breakup type thing but then he's got a few
• 23:18
  intense moments with the Dutch scissoring guy.
• 23:21
  Yeah is credited. As I know he's credited as Dutch
• 23:25
  this meant I wrote a train guy in my hands throughout I'm sorry
• 23:28
  I Even read the cast. Yeah, I'll do that.
• 23:30
  After I finished my thoughts here.
• 23:32
  Okay. But Jesus Christ, Travis.
• 23:34
  I'm sorry. I don't want to say the
• 23:35
  beginning and we kind of have gotten a little bit derail here,
• 23:37
  so let's try and get on track here.
• 23:40
  All right, so I think that I would give this one.
• 23:44
  I would give it a 77. Yeah, because it lacks a lot in
• 23:48
  the character but the set pieces is in everything, like the
• 23:52
  setting, just the gore that you see, everything looks amazing
• 23:57
  and it's all real, really? Creepy, it kind of uh, no just
• 24:00
  plays off of those like moments those things that make me feel
• 24:03
  uncomfortable and that's kind of nice to get from horror
• 24:06
  occasionally, like, actually being uneasy, okay?
• 24:09
  That's like the intended effect. That brings our average 25.5, it
• 24:13
  sounds about right for this. Should I say something
• 24:16
  controversial? Should I say it now, should I
• 24:18
  say after you read cast and crew, or should I say that for
• 24:21
  the very end of this episode? I don't know how controversial
• 24:26
  is this. I'm curious.
• 24:28
  Let's go. I think hostile three is better
• 24:31
  than that. Oh, fuck he did.
• 24:32
  Tell me about that. Yeah, also three sucks asked it
• 24:36
  was I guess it's not a good movie.
• 24:38
  It's not even objectively. Like, enjoy watching it more
• 24:42
  than I enjoy watching this one. That's, you know.
• 24:46
  Okay, maybe we'll cover the whole series.
• 24:49
  Now, I don't know, just like randomly sprinkle an oboe
• 24:52
  creates a hostile day. Yeah.
• 24:54
  Well, you know, will surprise you, but Okay, yeah, that's
• 24:58
  that's stupid. I'm sorry but hostile three
• 25:02
  sucks. You made me watch it here
• 25:03
  recently. And again, I was like, yeah, you
• 25:05
  fell asleep and then like went to the bedroom and I followed
• 25:09
  you in there and then I put it on and watch it from the
• 25:11
  beginning. Why do you let your friend
• 25:12
  again? Because you fell asleep a really
• 25:14
  early on. And when I was first on you were
• 25:16
  like talking over it. Talking about how stupid.
• 25:19
  Yeah. You think the characters are bad
• 25:21
  in this movie? The characters in that movie or
• 25:22
  terrible? I liked the pacing is a lot
• 25:25
  better for me. I like the Twisted.
• 25:27
  At the end. Okay, that's another episode
• 25:29
  this week. All right, so let's go into the
• 25:32
  cast. We have Paxson, he's played by
• 25:35
  Jay Hernandez. Josh is played by.
• 25:37
  Derek Richardson always played by eighth of a good Johnson.
• 25:43
  I'm going to fuck up a lot of these names here because a lot
• 25:46
  of them are like Global's to where they filmed Natalia is
• 25:50
  Barbara, Neta gjakova. Svetlana is played by John a
• 25:57
  Nakata, bokova, everybody. You're doing really good.
• 26:03
  Okay, you know, and it always happens with the movies that I
• 26:06
  open with. I always get the ones with like
• 26:08
  the most difficult to pronounce names most difficult for you
• 26:12
  because you're not European. I guess it's true.
• 26:14
  Yeah yeah. Just I mean Travis is doing his
• 26:17
  best but also check out IMDb if you're not understanding what
• 26:21
  he's saying. Yeah, I think I can get these
• 26:22
  last two though. This one's easy.
• 26:24
  It's a cannon is played by Lynn. And last but not least, the
• 26:30
  Dutch businessman is played by Jin Vlasic.
• 26:34
  It was probably pronounce Ian, Ian fast classic, I'm so sorry,
• 26:41
  but those are the people. We've got an opening scene
• 26:46
  opening credits, I mean, and we were talking about opening
• 26:49
  credits on our last episode. I love the opening credits, this
• 26:51
  one. All right, did not like it
• 26:54
  purely for the fact that we had it on the menu.
• 26:57
  You screen of the Blu-ray for like 10 minutes before we got
• 26:59
  going watching it. So this whistling will haunt my
• 27:03
  dreams tonight. That's awesome.
• 27:05
  Not in a good way, it's into the fact.
• 27:08
  Yeah, it opens on the factory where we see the events, take
• 27:12
  place towards the end of the film, and it's just like the sky
• 27:15
  whistling. You can see all the torture
• 27:17
  tools, and you can tell that this is going to be some really
• 27:20
  nasty shit happening later, but it's all silenced a shit just
• 27:24
  happened because they're cleaning it up.
• 27:26
  Yeah. Things that like you see at one
• 27:28
  point really gross soap. So yes.
• 27:31
  Yeah. But it's there's no music.
• 27:34
  It's just the person that's cleaning whistling the entire
• 27:36
  time and I really appreciate it. I thought it was a really nice
• 27:39
  way to do the credits. Have you ever worked in a place
• 27:42
  where you've got that one person who when they're working alone?
• 27:45
  Or think they're working alone? Does the kill?
• 27:48
  Go whistle. Not the killed Bill was sold,
• 27:51
  but I hear people like whistle random things, especially You
• 27:55
  know, I've worked on two separate places where I've been
• 27:57
  like, walking down a hall and somebody else thinks they're all
• 27:59
  owned and they're doing that. Why are they embarrassed to do
• 28:01
  it? No, I think it's just like not a
• 28:04
  thing. You do in front of other people
• 28:05
  whistling around other people's annoying.
• 28:07
  Most people are worse than that. Hangs out around somebody and
• 28:10
  you decide that you're just going to whistle a jaunty tune.
• 28:14
  Learn proper social etiquette please.
• 28:16
  Nobody wants to deal with that. You would hate my workplace.
• 28:20
  So a lot of that we are after the credits Play.
• 28:24
  We Are introduced to our three characters.
• 28:26
  We have Paxton, Josh and Oli Oli is from Iceland.
• 28:31
  Yes, he is tagging along with these, dude.
• 28:33
  These two are friends. They've known each other and
• 28:35
  they appear to be in like, they're still kind of in.
• 28:40
  I'm taking it like in between, like, graduating college and
• 28:43
  going to enter in some sort of postgraduate work.
• 28:46
  Yeah. Paxson at one point, mentions
• 28:48
  taking him. Taking the bar and Josh working
• 28:51
  on his thesis. Yeah.
• 28:54
  So yeah, Josh wants to be a writer is basically like based
• 28:58
  off of like context of conversations that they have.
• 29:00
  But yeah, how does it feels this work for a writing degree?
• 29:03
  I'm gonna have to research that. Yeah it was I don't know it
• 29:08
  depends but yeah they're walking around there in Amsterdam so
• 29:12
  they're trying to just tour Europe and just trying to like
• 29:16
  it up all of the hot spots. Apparently answered him is a
• 29:19
  very hot place for Americans because they stayed in red light
• 29:24
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 29:25
  Which you know a lot of people yeah, sex drugs and rock and
• 29:28
  roll especially during this time in the 2000s, II feel like I
• 29:32
  hear or I would hear people talk about like Amsterdam all the
• 29:35
  time even if they've never been really interested in because we
• 29:39
  you know yeah we see them. Like they're arguing about if
• 29:42
  they're going to go smoke weed and we can we smoke weed at home
• 29:44
  like this goat or Museum which like I'm kind of on Josh's side
• 29:47
  there like I fucking love Museum tour, you can get high and then
• 29:51
  go to him using that sounds even better.
• 29:54
  So, they end up going to like a weed bar.
• 29:58
  Yeah, we're I don't know if any of you smoke hookah, but barely.
• 30:04
  Yeah. They're, they're smoking weed
• 30:07
  from a hookah, which just sounds like a terrible time.
• 30:10
  It's not recommended. It's I think it's bad for just
• 30:15
  the whole thing. It does not clean well like she
• 30:17
  should has, it's bad, really hookah?
• 30:19
  It's bad for the smoker. I'm assuming link.
• 30:22
  Feel like that's gotta hurt your lungs like who kind of wants to?
• 30:27
  Oh yeah, we see that. He is a, he's a feisty little
• 30:32
  guy and he brings over a near catatonic woman and even
• 30:35
  paxson's like, hey, pretty sure that qualifies as rape.
• 30:38
  So we should probably not have sex with her.
• 30:41
  They're the cutscene here which I get like he cut it because
• 30:45
  they get some more of this backstory later in a scene that
• 30:50
  needs it. And you have to cut out the
• 30:52
  Background somewhere. So it's not repetitive.
• 30:55
  But what happened is that? They met Oli and he has a flat
• 31:01
  in Barcelona, which is where they want to eventually end up.
• 31:05
  And so he was just going to tag along.
• 31:07
  They're just going to be three Pals in Europe.
• 31:09
  Yeah, they have good chemistry with each other.
• 31:11
  As soon as all get along, just fine.
• 31:13
  Yeah, they really do, you know, they like to hang out with their
• 31:17
  butts and nuts out front of each other.
• 31:18
  They do, it's always penis and anteater.
• 31:22
  And an aardvark a lot. Yeah I don't even want a picture
• 31:25
  that he is uncircumcised. Yeah yeah.
• 31:30
  So they go to a club. It's loud.
• 31:33
  Josh has a fanny pack. Oh and then there's a shot at
• 31:36
  this one. Other dude, in the bar this
• 31:38
  wearing a fanny pack and he is living the best life.
• 31:40
  He's just like standing still and he just kind of nodding
• 31:43
  along. That would be me.
• 31:44
  Yeah, and then this is where it like the movie is very, very
• 31:50
  2005. There is a lot of Language usage
• 31:54
  and this movie that I don't love.
• 31:56
  Yeah, very problematic. Yeah, very problematic, very of
• 32:00
  the time. But I'm not gonna like say that
• 32:03
  it's okay because it was 2005 like his 2021.
• 32:06
  Now we're watching it now, we're talking about it.
• 32:08
  Now I'm gonna I'm going to take a stance against slurs, so
• 32:13
  brave, I know. I'm also going to take a stance
• 32:17
  and say it's not funny to joke about Being gay to your friend
• 32:21
  who might actually be get. Well it's not funny to joke
• 32:23
  about being gay first. Yeah but like also I like truly
• 32:29
  think there's a subplot there of Josh questioning his sexuality.
• 32:35
  Yeah. Because they're they're hints.
• 32:37
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:39
  So like yeah, we just they get kicked out of this club.
• 32:44
  Yeah. Because Josh spills his drink
• 32:47
  all over a girl and it kind of starts a fight.
• 32:49
  Yeah. And then Are you being as are
• 32:51
  being escorted other? I were Americans, you can't do
• 32:53
  this to us fucking obnoxious. Yeah, they hate these guys.
• 32:57
  Yeah, there they are. Made out to be pretty paintable
• 33:02
  right away, which is what I'm talking about.
• 33:03
  I don't, they're not good character as well.
• 33:06
  These businessmen are paying extra for Americans really.
• 33:08
  Get these fucking people out of our country.
• 33:11
  Yeah, which they act like that's special because they pointed out
• 33:15
  at the weed bar, that Americans are all over the place in
• 33:18
  Amsterdam. Like, yes, not that Special.
• 33:21
  Yeah, I think so their shitty about sex workers, they go into
• 33:29
  like brothel type plays, I don't know what the right terminology
• 33:32
  is essentially the red light district.
• 33:35
  Yeah, they are seeing silhouettes of people having
• 33:40
  sex, at one point, we see two rows fist-bumping.
• 33:44
  So I was a little bit confused because we like behind the
• 33:47
  scenes stuff. You actually see like
• 33:49
  everything, Shot from both sides of it.
• 33:52
  Yeah, I don't know. I just felt a little bit weird
• 33:54
  to me that they would do that. Yeah, I don't know if that was
• 33:58
  just like for the behind the scenes were if they were
• 34:00
  actually intending on using those shots.
• 34:03
  Yeah, I don't. Do you feel?
• 34:05
  I feel like that would be in the deleted scenes if that were the
• 34:07
  case it is. But yeah I mean I know you have
• 34:11
  to get like a ton of different angles and stuff.
• 34:12
  I was just like man these are Silhouettes and you have these
• 34:15
  people completely butt-ass naked.
• 34:18
  Yeah. Some of the things.
• 34:20
  Things that you can see the silhouette of a nibble from like
• 34:24
  some of these shots too. So I don't know, I guess, I
• 34:28
  mean, it's not necessary but no, you don't just don't wear a
• 34:31
  padded bra and make it cold and then you can still see a nipple
• 34:34
  perfect. Yeah like always pays a sex
• 34:38
  worker to fuck Josh and Josh is like hey nice roomy have by.
• 34:46
  Yeah they're they're trying to get him to have sex.
• 34:50
  To forget about his ex. They are late getting back to
• 34:56
  their hostile and there's a curfew and there again, really
• 34:58
  obnoxious and I'm siding with all the people throwing bottles
• 35:02
  at them because they are being loud, they're waking up the
• 35:05
  entire Street always starts singing in the middle of the
• 35:08
  street to try and wake everybody up.
• 35:09
  I guess. So like make it to where there's
• 35:11
  so obnoxious that somebody asked them what the men which does
• 35:14
  work because this guy named Alex, who lives near the hostel
• 35:17
  opens up his window and has them climb up.
• 35:19
  The fire escape so they go in there.
• 35:22
  And his roommate and his roommates girlfriend or
• 35:26
  whatever. I don't know.
• 35:27
  Maybe not girlfriend. Who knows are having very stoned
• 35:32
  sex? Yeah.
• 35:34
  And I don't even know if it's like we I think they're just
• 35:36
  super high. They're tripping on something in
• 35:38
  there. Having super not sober.
• 35:40
  Sex act like yeah. And like always just watching
• 35:44
  and then hacks and Josh like awkwardly talking with Alex and
• 35:47
  I like yeah we just want to fuck women all over.
• 35:52
  Here up and he was like, oh listen, I know this great place.
• 35:55
  It's this hostel right outside of Bratislava and you're not
• 35:59
  going to find it, you're not going to find it in your book.
• 36:01
  Let me tell you how to get there, so they're like cool.
• 36:05
  Yeah, we have a place where we're going to go.
• 36:06
  This is where we get the actual back story of why there with
• 36:09
  only because he is noticeably older than them and noticeably
• 36:14
  less American than them. Yeah.
• 36:17
  So I think Alex is like why? Yeah.
• 36:21
  He's Telling them that basically, the women, there are
• 36:25
  very much into American. So just the fact that you're an
• 36:28
  American and they hear your accent, they're going to be all
• 36:30
  over you, so they're into it. So they decided to set out and
• 36:34
  go on there the next day and then they're on the train.
• 36:37
  Yeah, I would love to go somewhere where people are like
• 36:39
  me and your accent, so pretty, because I do not fucking get
• 36:43
  that in America anywhere. Well, I mean, it's America.
• 36:46
  Everybody's just sir accident. Will you get him with a Southern
• 36:49
  accent? I guess.
• 36:50
  Know, with the southern accent, you get people make Funny.
• 36:52
  You some people are into it. I've never met anybody into it.
• 36:56
  Well some people are some people are in there any accent.
• 36:59
  Yeah, that's right. People are weird.
• 37:01
  People just like things that are different.
• 37:03
  Yeah, exactly. I just think they're neat.
• 37:06
  So they're on a train, somebody drew eyes on Oles butt cheeks
• 37:11
  always, relies on, always, but she's I do not think, like, if
• 37:16
  only did those eyes himself, he has done this prank several
• 37:19
  times before because those are some very symmetrical Very
• 37:22
  smooth eyeballs. Yeah.
• 37:25
  I mean I get the impression that he's the type of guy that would
• 37:27
  do this a lot also. They clearly planned this in
• 37:30
  advance because he mentioned that he shaved his ass for this
• 37:33
  prank. That's true.
• 37:34
  He did, didn't he? Yeah, he's got a very smooth.
• 37:36
  But here I like to imagine, he just keeps his butt shaven at
• 37:39
  all times. So he can do a but prank
• 37:42
  whenever he wants. Just have it ready to go?
• 37:44
  He's already got the eyes on there at all times.
• 37:46
  Yeah, like they're just tattoos like better.
• 37:49
  Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Yeah.
• 37:52
  So this guy, the Dutch businessman.
• 37:55
  I call him train guy in my notes throughout, so I might switch
• 37:58
  back before he comes in. He's on the phone with his
• 38:02
  daughter saskia. She's Daddy's girl.
• 38:06
  And then there's absolute psychopath starts eating a salad
• 38:10
  with his fingers. The original Salad Fingers.
• 38:14
  Oh gross. That's where you got the
• 38:16
  inspiration. Was around this time on soured.
• 38:19
  Soured Salad Fingers came out phone.
• 38:22
  About this guy, this guy was cast like with in lesson, six
• 38:25
  days before shooting began and he did not speak any English at
• 38:29
  all. He took all of his Lines by
• 38:31
  wanting, it phonetically had no idea what he was saying.
• 38:34
  That's really impressive honestly.
• 38:37
  Yeah, I know it is because he has a whole monologue Waiter on.
• 38:40
  Yeah, and here he's he's got a lot of dialogue and he's got
• 38:43
  like a monologue that gets cut to.
• 38:45
  Yeah, out here. He says he prefers to use his
• 38:48
  hands. He likes to have connections
• 38:51
  with things that died. Or me and then paxson's like why
• 38:53
  I'm a vegetarian and the guy is like, oh well, it's human nature
• 38:57
  to eat me in Paxton is like, am I not a fucking human being?
• 39:00
  Like look what do you mean packs?
• 39:02
  And really didn't strike me as the type of you vegetarian.
• 39:05
  I didn't get that Vibe either and I'm not I'm going to call
• 39:08
  bullshit. I feel like he's just fucking
• 39:10
  with this. Yeah that's how I feel like to
• 39:11
  he immediately like he was like I don't like this guy.
• 39:14
  I'm gonna tell him about deterrence because truly
• 39:18
  speaking as a vegetarian nothing will piss off hard.
• 39:22
  Core meat eaters more than being like I'm a vegetarian.
• 39:26
  It's it ruffle some feathers. Yeah, some people are, they get
• 39:30
  a little bit too wrapped up in the whole thing.
• 39:32
  It's kind of stupid. I saw somebody shared something
• 39:34
  that was like, when you're a vegetarian, when people find out
• 39:38
  you're vegetarian, they have they no longer know how to
• 39:41
  relate to you as a person. They'll be like, hey, do you
• 39:44
  want to carpool together? I have a Honda Civic.
• 39:47
  Are you allowed to ride in that? I know you're a vegetarian and
• 39:51
  it's true. Like people would be like, I
• 39:53
  feel like I shouldn't eat. This burger in front of you.
• 39:55
  I'm like, do you think I just like, eat alone in a closet for
• 40:00
  all three meals? Yeah.
• 40:01
  If you had a void everybody, they me, you'd be in a lot of
• 40:04
  trouble. Like we're eating in separate
• 40:06
  rooms. So fun fact, we just did a quick
• 40:10
  break for an audio. Check after are corrupted, audio
• 40:13
  incident with Jason X, we're not taking any chances.
• 40:15
  And apparently, our neighbors dog is incredibly legible.
• 40:22
  Wow, audible audible. That's what I'm looking for.
• 40:25
  It's not Talia barking in the background.
• 40:26
  It's our neighbors dog toys being a good girl and just
• 40:29
  sleeping on the couch. Yeah, sorry.
• 40:30
  If that's an issue. That's what this is.
• 40:34
  Where train guy like gropes. Josh, Josh.
• 40:38
  Yeah, he puts his hand on his knee.
• 40:39
  He pulls a Toby. Yeah, unlike he makes very sexy
• 40:44
  eyes at Josh to and like, it's a very bold move for somebody.
• 40:48
  You just met yeah. Like what are you doing?
• 40:51
  You're like, did you think that the whole eating salad with your
• 40:54
  hands thing was a turn-on? So when we touch it with these
• 40:56
  chicken fingers and it's nasty. Yeah.
• 41:01
  And Josh freaks out and kicks him out of the train card and
• 41:05
  that like a reasonable response and I And the guy pulls a Toby,
• 41:09
  like, if he had a Hot Topic or he would have just imagining
• 41:13
  that. Yeah.
• 41:14
  Just like opens the train door and you shout it, see it.
• 41:20
  All right, so they get to the hostel Pulp Fiction's on on the
• 41:24
  TV and it's in Russian, that's according to the captions, it's
• 41:28
  in Russian. Yeah, this is, I don't know
• 41:30
  where this place is like geographically where they are
• 41:34
  whoever dubbed over. Samuel L Jackson was not a good
• 41:39
  voice match. He can't, I don't think that you
• 41:42
  can really, you know, Doug Samuel Jackson.
• 41:46
  Yeah. Samuel Jackson just needs to
• 41:48
  learn every language for every country that his movies are
• 41:51
  shown in. Yeah.
• 41:52
  Like the guy in this movie that just didn't even know the
• 41:54
  language, you just like, all right.
• 41:56
  Just tell me what I need to read muthafucka.
• 41:58
  So he moves those in the motherfucker, so they get up to
• 42:02
  the room. They're told that they're,
• 42:03
  they're going to have your mates and they get up to their room,
• 42:06
  they were roommates and they were Mates.
• 42:08
  And boy were they? So they get up there and I see
• 42:11
  these girls titties out, and I'm like, oh, we're just getting
• 42:14
  ready to go to the spa, you should come and so they they
• 42:19
  follow and this is where they get down to the spa.
• 42:23
  And I wrote, Of course, Paxton has a fucking tribal tattoo
• 42:27
  because there's a fucking tribal tattoo.
• 42:30
  It's like dude, bro, confirmed. They go into a sauna,
• 42:36
  everybody's naked. David.
• 42:38
  The girls are like, let's go to the club and then they get there
• 42:43
  and they are being given like drugs pills of some sort.
• 42:48
  I'm thinking ecstasy, I'm not a, I'm not a druggist, I don't
• 42:54
  know, I don't know. I've never been any time I've
• 42:57
  ever seen anything related to ecstasy.
• 42:58
  I think it's in pills. So I think that this is ecstasy,
• 43:01
  you very much fits the theme of. I go into a club that's popular
• 43:04
  drug for that. Yeah.
• 43:08
  Josh is kind of like, who's he with is he was spent Lana
• 43:12
  Anatolia. Which ones.
• 43:13
  Which Svetlana is the blond one, right?
• 43:16
  Yeah, Josh gets Natalia. All right.
• 43:19
  Yeah, so she's like getting very cozy with him but he's like,
• 43:23
  hey, I'm having an asthma attack, I'm gonna go outside.
• 43:25
  Relatable, they're just, you know, more more partying, not
• 43:29
  only that but she's smoking right beside him.
• 43:31
  And obviously, you like made him uncomfortable, she offered to
• 43:34
  put it out, but I think he made the right call to just go
• 43:36
  outside. Yeah.
• 43:37
  Yeah. And then while he's out there,
• 43:39
  one of the bubblegum gang kids comes up and demands, I think is
• 43:43
  like a quarter or a dime or something.
• 43:45
  I want to try anything and then he said, I want a dollar and
• 43:49
  then like the rest of his gang pops up and they've got like
• 43:51
  bats and Shane's and brass knuckles and the train guy comes
• 43:56
  up and he is like just like makes it rain on the kids and
• 43:59
  he's like, it's best to just give them what they want because
• 44:02
  they will fucking murder. You ho boy that they will sell
• 44:07
  you out. For a piece of gum and I am not
• 44:10
  even joking. Yeah, they like gum here.
• 44:13
  So yeah. So Josh was like let me buy you
• 44:17
  a beer as a thanks. Yeah.
• 44:19
  But also as kind of a date because like while they're in
• 44:22
  there they're talking and the train goes like go hang out with
• 44:25
  your friends. He's like no I'm enjoying our
• 44:27
  conversation and he puts his hand on his knee.
• 44:29
  Yeah. Then he puts his hand on his
• 44:30
  knee. Yeah.
• 44:32
  That is a sign. Yeah.
• 44:34
  That goes beyond subtext right there.
• 44:36
  Yeah definitely. Which I think is kind of
• 44:38
  interesting because we've got these women that are lowering,
• 44:41
  these men for the elite hunting group.
• 44:45
  And then, I think it's kind of interesting that Josh is given
• 44:49
  to the man that he's got the guy really flirting most likely like
• 44:53
  crocodile. Yeah, he's seen he seemed to be
• 44:56
  in the know that this was where they're going to get their
• 44:59
  picture. Like, he's very conveniently.
• 45:02
  They're like, that's a weird coincidence because that club
• 45:05
  does not seem like that, dudes, hang out.
• 45:07
  I mean, yeah, it's not it's all like a bunch of young people and
• 45:12
  he's just kind of there to be fair.
• 45:14
  He wasn't even in the club he was outside so maybe he was.
• 45:17
  Maybe he was going there, I don't know, maybe he was just
• 45:18
  walking by. Yeah, mom back at the hostel.
• 45:23
  Like just two Bros, fuck in there, girl.
• 45:26
  Roommates. And all we are Olli has been
• 45:29
  taken away by. I think it's Val, who was Vala.
• 45:34
  They call her Val to I think but if she's like the desk, Work at
• 45:37
  the hostel. Yeah, so I want to say one thing
• 45:40
  about ali sounds. This is last screen appearance.
• 45:43
  You know who he made me think of Dennis is roommate in that
• 45:48
  episode of. Its I finally was like you want
• 45:50
  to do some freaky shit man. That's only that is very much
• 45:55
  him. Those are really bad accent.
• 45:57
  I'm so sorry to all of Europe mature in names and butcher an
• 46:00
  accent. That's what we do here folks.
• 46:04
  But yeah, so they wake up in the morning.
• 46:06
  Oh he's not. There has been Neatly made who
• 46:08
  would guess he never came dick and I deleted scene.
• 46:11
  We see that Josh Witnesses him being taken away in a van and
• 46:15
  this never comes up again and like which is one thing like
• 46:19
  okay you cut it because you know it's better if they're just
• 46:23
  confused about where he is but that was his rationale was that.
• 46:27
  It's creepy. The next 10 minutes are creepy
• 46:29
  or without seeing it. But like, he doesn't mention
• 46:33
  that it creates a continuity. Yeah, from here on out there
• 46:36
  basically like, where is Is he like he didn't come home last
• 46:39
  night. Maybe he went away with a girl
• 46:40
  or went home with her but in reality like just based off of
• 46:43
  the shooting here, Josh saw him going to a van and he never
• 46:47
  brings it up to Paxson where he's not willingly getting in
• 46:50
  the van. He is being escorted by two
• 46:52
  beefy men. Yeah, exactly.
• 46:54
  So it's very much sketchy but apparently they just shrug it
• 46:57
  off. Yeah.
• 46:59
  And I like okay well we'll leave a note for him in case he comes
• 47:02
  back this girl Kana Kenna. Already Anna.
• 47:08
  Okay, Anna, she comes running up, she's got a text message of
• 47:12
  her friends and Oli, like it's a picture and at the bottom, it
• 47:16
  apparently so sayonara. It's a very disturbing picture
• 47:19
  to like it's they are you can see the backdrop of one of the
• 47:24
  towers. You kind of get these landmarks
• 47:26
  you get shots of it throughout the movie.
• 47:28
  They do not look like they're they're willingly.
• 47:30
  No, that's the thing. Like they are like standing very
• 47:33
  still and they're very like, I don't know, Shell Shocked look
• 47:36
  on their face. Yeah.
• 47:37
  They're very stiff. It seems like an they are
• 47:40
  basically they have like no expression and yeah like you
• 47:43
  just know there's a gun pointed at them.
• 47:45
  All camera. It's very creepy.
• 47:47
  It's very unsettling picture. I really like that.
• 47:51
  Yeah. So they're like, okay well we'll
• 47:54
  meet up and talk with you later we're going to try and find
• 47:56
  Olli. They're walking near a canal and
• 48:02
  I actually really relate to packs in this moment because
• 48:05
  he's like, oh, here's a body of water.
• 48:07
  Let me tell you about some of my childhood trauma.
• 48:11
  Just out of the blue. Yeah, that's what does that all
• 48:14
  the time. Really to occasionally I will
• 48:17
  remember something I've repressed and I'm like, hmm I
• 48:20
  guess that explains why I have this particular characteristic
• 48:23
  now I guess we're talking about that today.
• 48:27
  So, he's talking about, he saw a girl drowning when he was
• 48:31
  younger and even though he told the Lifeguard, he felt
• 48:33
  responsible for her dying in. This is supposed to set up his
• 48:36
  whole growth as a character, which is all fine.
• 48:39
  And well, I still don't want him to be our final girl in this
• 48:43
  movie, but he is, it works out. Okay, in the theatrical cut, its
• 48:49
  kind of undone completely in the director's.
• 48:54
  Cut isn't ending? Yes though, the ending.
• 48:56
  Yeah. Yeah, we'll talk about that when
• 48:58
  we talk about that but anyway, say they yeah we just had to
• 49:03
  give him some background because he's about to become our final
• 49:06
  boy. Yeah.
• 49:07
  And yeah, they're trying to build up these characters but
• 49:11
  it's really not doing much there.
• 49:12
  I mean any of the dialogue that they have here is just kind of
• 49:15
  like yeah, whatever. Really if they didn't spend 30
• 49:17
  minutes of the movie in loud clubs fucking girls like they
• 49:21
  could have built up their characters a little bit more.
• 49:23
  Yeah naturally. But anyways, they They see what
• 49:28
  they think is only because they see this man wearing the exact
• 49:31
  same coat that all we had. Nobody else has an orange jacket
• 49:35
  in Europe. Travis, this is clearly
• 49:37
  evidence, but I understand it because I mean, I don't know,
• 49:41
  this guy's from Iceland, like, do people from Iceland, get this
• 49:44
  stuff here like, you know, that a lot of that stuff is very much
• 49:47
  local. So do you know this?
• 49:51
  I've I've read about some cases like some murder cases where
• 49:56
  people Okay or have they tracked down?
• 49:59
  They've gotten like a piece of evidence from clothing, right?
• 50:02
  Okay they say this person is from another country because
• 50:04
  they only manufacture this. And so in South Korea, I'm
• 50:08
  obviously giving away some details of the exact when I was
• 50:10
  reading about, we listen to the episode about it, on case File,
• 50:15
  the guy that went to the family's home and like kill them
• 50:18
  all. And then I kind of hung out
• 50:19
  there and like, shit in the toilet and ate Candy.
• 50:22
  I was like, you had me in the first half.
• 50:24
  I was like, that's like 90% of case File.
• 50:26
  Episodes. But okay.
• 50:27
  You remember which one I'm talking about?
• 50:28
  Yeah, they were able to like they got a piece because of the
• 50:31
  guy just like we lived in their house for a little bit and he
• 50:34
  left behind some clothing like okay, this is like made here.
• 50:37
  So you know, it could be the case with this.
• 50:39
  I mean that's not what they're doing.
• 50:41
  Obviously they just see something familiar and they
• 50:43
  think it's him. So they go and chase him around
• 50:45
  the town because of, guys, not listening, wherever they're
• 50:48
  yelling, only because this isn't only.
• 50:50
  I do like they follow him into a Torture Museum and the tickets
• 50:55
  for the For the museum or like a picture of a person and the
• 51:00
  instead of like ripping, the stub off for the ticket, he puts
• 51:02
  in a tiny little. Yes, I love it.
• 51:05
  Yeah. Like I want a teeny tiny
• 51:07
  Guillotine. Yeah.
• 51:09
  Very dangerous with our pets, but yeah, we could keep it here
• 51:13
  in the podcast room. Yeah.
• 51:15
  If anybody knows where I can find a teeny tiny Guillotine.
• 51:17
  Hit us up. See probably, I'm sure.
• 51:21
  Yeah, only a tiny is hand on Etsy.
• 51:23
  I'm gonna look it up. I also love the fact that
• 51:25
  there's a museum of Torture and torture porn movie like they
• 51:29
  very much more. Like yeah.
• 51:31
  You know what we're doing here and it's really cool.
• 51:33
  They have some interesting, he's like some this shit right here.
• 51:36
  Historically based we did our research.
• 51:38
  We went to a museum, the extra mile.
• 51:41
  Apparently they're actually was in a museum where they were
• 51:43
  shooting this thing here. You know these are the Museum's
• 51:46
  really do exist. Yeah.
• 51:47
  So it's kind of cool so they realize it's not the guy they
• 51:51
  yeah. Get a text from OE supposedly
• 51:55
  and it's what very much looks like.
• 52:00
  Only with very dead eyes and that's because we see in the
• 52:03
  next shot, it's his head and all right.
• 52:07
  Ray. Yeah, all of the text says, is I
• 52:09
  go home. So obviously these people aren't
• 52:12
  like English speakers but I think always English wasn't that
• 52:15
  broken. So it's a the picture is very
• 52:18
  offsetting their racist also. Yeah.
• 52:22
  I'm sure they are racist. I mean, that's probably part of
• 52:27
  the reason that they want Americans, like, yeah, they hate
• 52:30
  Americans for sure. Yeah, definitely a big part of
• 52:32
  it, so they seek Anna back at the hostel.
• 52:35
  And they ask if she's going to go to the Train the next day and
• 52:42
  she's like, yeah, they're like, well, we'll meet up with you
• 52:43
  like, don't know where your friend went, spoiler alert, her
• 52:47
  friend is in the same place, Olli was, and she's getting her
• 52:50
  toes clipped off one by one. Yes, that scene is nasty.
• 52:54
  Yeah, but I love that shot of it like panning over and then you
• 52:59
  see down the hall. This guy, obviously paid a lot
• 53:01
  of money because you got two people.
• 53:03
  Yeah. What if they're not American?
• 53:05
  So I guess you got some kind of combo deal.
• 53:07
  Yeah. But the one, I like coked-up guy
• 53:10
  later made. It sound like Asian.
• 53:13
  People are even more expensive later on.
• 53:17
  He finds the card or maybe it's because he's also American and
• 53:20
  they're like, we can definitely rip those.
• 53:22
  Guy off. Yeah, probably they probably
• 53:24
  took advantage of him but packs and finds a card later on that
• 53:28
  reveals the prices of, you know, the nationality or race or
• 53:32
  whatever. Americans don't like 25,000.
• 53:34
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:35
  And the others, like a thousand and like ten thousands of locals
• 53:38
  5000. And then what was the second
• 53:41
  like I couldn't read? It was too fast for me,
• 53:44
  whatever? I didn't write it down, I'm not
• 53:46
  interested in the price of human.
• 53:50
  Not information. I need to have Do you hear me?
• 53:54
  Do you hear me? FBI agent.
• 53:56
  Listen again, sounds even more suspicious, definitely don't
• 54:01
  know. The cost of humans in Morse code
• 54:05
  at me. No, I don't know if I can Morse
• 54:08
  code. It's disappoint.
• 54:10
  Even think I know SOS because I get it mixed up.
• 54:12
  Which one's long and which ones short?
• 54:14
  I don't know any of that. Okay, so so on Anatolia.
• 54:20
  Come in, then I go to a club. And Josh was like fuck off and
• 54:24
  then packs in his leg. Hold on.
• 54:26
  Now he's like listen dude. Always European and Europeans
• 54:31
  are fucking weird. He's also racist because he's
• 54:33
  America. No, he's got a point here.
• 54:35
  His whole point is. So this guy just like they don't
• 54:38
  even really know him. They've just tag he's tagged
• 54:40
  along with their trip throughout Europe and I could see him just
• 54:43
  like ditching them to go along with some person.
• 54:46
  They just met again, you know, it is very much real and he's
• 54:49
  got a point saying look we you and I Like we can we're staying
• 54:53
  together but we don't really need him because he probably he
• 54:57
  probably went away with someone else he says or he went home to
• 55:00
  his daughter. Yeah.
• 55:01
  What she also says six-year-old daughter.
• 55:03
  Yeah, so it's very much reasonable.
• 55:07
  I don't end it. Convinces Josh.
• 55:09
  So you know, they end up going well, isn't I agree with this
• 55:13
  point, but there's a way he said anything that's like a racist
• 55:18
  like undertone levels, like Europeans are flaky crust me.
• 55:22
  Like that's how it felt like bro.
• 55:25
  I've been to Europe. Like there's one way to be like
• 55:27
  cultures are different. Maybe this is no big deal.
• 55:29
  I don't know how long he was. Like he's Icelandic.
• 55:32
  They definitely like they don't like to hang out for a long thin
• 55:34
  guys. Sketchy So okay so they decide
• 55:40
  that they're going to go and then packs and says this is the
• 55:44
  shit that you talking about having sex with these girls.
• 55:47
  It's like this is a shit that will be thinking about when I'm
• 55:49
  studying for the bar and you're writing your thesis and I was
• 55:52
  like that is not what you should be thinking about.
• 55:53
  When you are studying or writing that will get you very poor
• 55:57
  results. Maybe not how brains work?
• 55:59
  That's what his thesis is going to be on, maybe he's like gonna
• 56:02
  be like a rhotic rider. You know, you go to school.
• 56:07
  I don't know, I guess, maybe they have, like, some kind of
• 56:09
  like, like, what's your focus erotica?
• 56:17
  Okay, so they invite Canada. She says, no Josh like at the
• 56:21
  bar. Natalia is just, like, feeding
• 56:25
  him drinks. Like just tipping his chin up
• 56:28
  and my, pouring, the drink that. There you go.
• 56:31
  Yeah, full on, baby. Burden.
• 56:33
  That you know, he sees the guy with the jacket again and then
• 56:37
  he was like, fuck this shit. I'm out.
• 56:39
  He leaves says, he'll see Natalia later because they share
• 56:44
  a room obviously. So he gets back to the hospital.
• 56:47
  He looks fucking awful. Yeah, it's terrible.
• 56:51
  And I'm pretty sure he's been. Worked here.
• 56:52
  Oh clearly and like Val has like, oh so you baby, let's lay
• 56:57
  you down in the bed. That's not in your room that you
• 57:00
  paid for which I could just take you right up to it.
• 57:02
  But no you're going to go in this bed and then I really like
• 57:05
  the angling of the shot because you mostly see him.
• 57:07
  But like on the background you can see like just the corner of
• 57:10
  the doorway and you see like extra pairs of feet.
• 57:12
  Yeah, another guy walks up. Yeah, very nice.
• 57:14
  I like that, too. So, at the club, the girls are
• 57:20
  talking in another language. Right in front of Paxton and he
• 57:24
  was like, wow, this is super fun.
• 57:27
  Hey, where's the bathroom? And he was like, okay, I'll get
• 57:32
  you guys drinks on my way back and then says something in
• 57:34
  German, and I seem a little bit thrown off that he can speak
• 57:37
  German when he goes to the bathroom.
• 57:39
  There's clearly a line for the bathroom clearly and instead he
• 57:44
  just walks into a Supply Closet and then, yes, it's a supply
• 57:47
  goes, I mean he's starting to have the effects of the drugging
• 57:51
  to and he's some guy. Who walks out of the Supply
• 57:53
  Closet. He just like, thinks it's the
• 57:54
  bathroom. So he just stumbles in there and
• 57:56
  passes out. I'm telling you, the people that
• 57:58
  work at the club are so lucky that he did not expel any type
• 58:02
  of body fluid and that closet because that is how that story
• 58:06
  would go any other day. I don't feel like they would
• 58:09
  give a shit. Oh, they would just be more
• 58:11
  sketchy. Somebody has to clean it up,
• 58:13
  still maybe uh was they bring the butcher from the actual like
• 58:19
  office space or whatever. Like we have in there to clean
• 58:21
  that stuff up? Get your hose, get your hose and
• 58:26
  yo get the hose, get your hose so hex.
• 58:32
  Oh wait, no no, no. So easy packs, fallen asleep.
• 58:36
  I don't know if he's ever actually referred to as packs.
• 58:38
  That's what they say packs. Yeah.
• 58:41
  That's what I was writing my nose little time.
• 58:43
  So we cut to a shot. Like as he has Pacs is falling
• 58:47
  asleep. We cut to a shot.
• 58:49
  It's like a small circle and the screen the rest of the screens
• 58:51
  black. And it's like a POV shot
• 58:53
  clearly. And you can tell like you're
• 58:55
  looking around this room, you see a tray of torture
• 58:59
  instruments like surgical stuff. Let me tell you and I told you
• 59:02
  this. Yeah, so I have to get regular
• 59:05
  skin screenings just, you know, be safe.
• 59:09
  And when you go into the dermatologist office, they have
• 59:13
  that shit ready to go. Like, they have a whole fucking
• 59:17
  tray with like scalpels. They've got the cauterizing
• 59:20
  tool. If you've got God, They've got
• 59:22
  the little local anesthetic needles that are like,
• 59:25
  pre-measured out. They've got all of that honor
• 59:28
  tray, no, because I remember because the first time I went
• 59:30
  in, I saw the tray and I was like, dude, this is just like in
• 59:33
  fucking Hospital. Like it's like, it's really
• 59:36
  nerve-wracking. Yeah.
• 59:37
  You're like, oh God. What's gonna happen to me scary?
• 59:40
  Yeah, cuz like I thought it was like because I was like I have a
• 59:43
  suspicious mole that I need you to check out and then I come in
• 59:45
  and I see all these tools and she's like, no, we keep these
• 59:49
  out for everybody and I was like, that's Still alarm.
• 59:52
  Yeah. Okay.
• 59:53
  I'm settling like hey I was just here like you know just for a
• 59:57
  check-up. Okay, cool.
• 59:58
  Let's get the scalpel. I don't even think I have
• 1:00:01
  almost, I'm just warning, the just want to know.
• 1:00:04
  We better get. This is how they saw her.
• 1:00:07
  They just cut it off but I love the ceiling.
• 1:00:11
  That's yeah, I'm right here. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  So the Dutch businessmen comes in we don't know it's him yet.
• 1:00:19
  He's in a mask and an apron, he pulls off the Hood, from Josh,
• 1:00:23
  Josh is crying, he's yelling, he's begging.
• 1:00:26
  He is going through all stages of grief right now.
• 1:00:28
  He is, he's handcuffed to the chair like and the chairs bolted
• 1:00:33
  to the floor. Or it's all very like gnarly and
• 1:00:37
  medieval. Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  And We see a drill. And we hear the drill and then
• 1:00:45
  we see the drill being put back on the table with what appears
• 1:00:48
  to be raw bacon. Wrapped around the drill bit.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah, It's upsetting. He so he's like drilled his swag
• 1:00:56
  and his torso like I'm not really sure about the place one
• 1:00:59
  of each of them but he's gotten deep in there.
• 1:01:01
  Yeah it's not like so our it's not a drill bit, you would use
• 1:01:06
  on drywall, like his. You're going to like go all the
• 1:01:09
  way through all of your fucking walls with it.
• 1:01:11
  It's a long drill bit. It's an industrial drill bit.
• 1:01:15
  Not quite driller killer but you know.
• 1:01:19
  No. Killer killer light.
• 1:01:21
  Mmm. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:01:22
  It's like the drill from the third movie.
• 1:01:26
  It's like a western ones first astral.
• 1:01:29
  Yeah. We the guy takes off his mask
• 1:01:32
  and there's like a whole monologue here that was cut
• 1:01:34
  where he's talking about like medieval torture instruments
• 1:01:37
  kind of tying it into the Torture Museum, but they felt
• 1:01:40
  that it kind of takes away from his next monologue which is like
• 1:01:42
  he takes off his mask. We see is the guy from the train
• 1:01:44
  and then he's talking about how he wanted to be a surgeon, but
• 1:01:46
  he couldn't because his handshake too much, which is a
• 1:01:48
  legit reason to not become a surgeon.
• 1:01:51
  Um, like that's like a necessary.
• 1:01:54
  Yeah you need accuracy. Yeah, minimally necessary.
• 1:01:58
  Qualification is the proper term.
• 1:02:01
  Yeah. So Josh is like vomiting, he's
• 1:02:06
  crying. He wants to go and he goes oh
• 1:02:09
  you wanna go and then like we see him lie down and Josh just
• 1:02:13
  starts like screaming and freaking out here.
• 1:02:14
  Like don't know what's happening, but it's not good.
• 1:02:17
  And then he like uncuff someone who's like you are free to go
• 1:02:22
  and he opens the door and we see Josh stand up.
• 1:02:25
  And then we see his feet and his Achilles tendons have been
• 1:02:28
  completely severed and he just Falls forward and you know how
• 1:02:32
  that was done. Fake leg.
• 1:02:34
  He's baby really good. Looking fake legs really
• 1:02:36
  good-looking fake legs and like the angle of it.
• 1:02:39
  You don't even realize that you're not seeing the top half
• 1:02:41
  of his body. The way this is shot and edited
• 1:02:43
  is like really cool. Yeah and also during the scene
• 1:02:47
  whenever he was where he falls down to crawl the actor.
• 1:02:53
  I can't remember saying, let's just call him.
• 1:02:55
  Well here we go. Derek Richardson.
• 1:02:57
  He those screams are real. Narak fucking name it is but the
• 1:03:00
  screens are real because in the process of doing this.
• 1:03:03
  It's briefly shown, like, in the thing that we were watching, but
• 1:03:07
  he pulled the chair up, and it fell on his toe and nearly split
• 1:03:11
  in half fool. So, he's bleeding pretty badly
• 1:03:15
  where he's doing this, but I don't know how much I don't know
• 1:03:18
  if they just kept the dialogue. Like, you know, the recording of
• 1:03:20
  it or if he's actually like crawling there with his foot
• 1:03:23
  fucked up. I mean listen if it was me and I
• 1:03:25
  was in that saying, I'm like I'm getting a good fucking
• 1:03:27
  performance, I'm going with it, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:29
  That's true. Yeah, I mean and it works to
• 1:03:31
  he's selling it pretty well. And I've got jacked up toes from
• 1:03:34
  years and color guard. So, you just drop equipment on
• 1:03:37
  you, like, you can't do shit. If you break a toe, you tape it
• 1:03:39
  to the one next to it. It only matters if you break
• 1:03:41
  your big toe, my toes are fucking gross.
• 1:03:43
  That's, that's so sad. I mean, it's true though, like,
• 1:03:47
  you can go to the hospital but they're just gonna tape it.
• 1:03:49
  Like, I guess who has the time and money to go tape it when you
• 1:03:52
  can tape it yourself like fair enough, I guess.
• 1:03:56
  But yeah, so like, all right, I feel it.
• 1:03:58
  I respect it. Yeah, this is probably like the
• 1:04:00
  most popular scene in the movie. This is a well-known part.
• 1:04:03
  Yeah. This is actually.
• 1:04:05
  It's like on one of the 100 greatest movie mode.
• 1:04:08
  Yeah. I'm kind of matter what channel?
• 1:04:09
  That is bravo. Bravo bravo.
• 1:04:13
  Hey, I wanted to say MC and I was like no, let's just Booty
• 1:04:17
  like is dedicated to now. Yeah, so obviously trained guy
• 1:04:24
  isn't letting him go. He steps over top of them grabs
• 1:04:28
  his hair. He was actually really grabbing
• 1:04:30
  his hair. Derek Richardson behind the It
• 1:04:33
  was like, yeah, that dude likes to grab hair.
• 1:04:36
  I thought I was gonna lose my hair and like he kind of holds
• 1:04:39
  his face up, to a mirror and then like, you see, like he's
• 1:04:42
  about to slit his throat. Yeah.
• 1:04:43
  So again, he did all of this without even speaking English.
• 1:04:46
  This whole scene. I, yeah, that blows my must have
• 1:04:48
  missed that. Oh, that's.
• 1:04:51
  I read that online. Oh yeah, they didn't talk about
• 1:04:53
  it in the thing. Okay, yeah.
• 1:04:55
  I, that blows my mind because he did a really good performance.
• 1:04:57
  Yeah, he really did so. Oh, and there was like a great
• 1:05:02
  moment to Because you still don't fully know what is going
• 1:05:05
  on, but like Josh, right before his there goes Kyle, he's like I
• 1:05:08
  will pay you 10 times 2 times. That's not how negotiations
• 1:05:13
  work? Like, let me go and then he was
• 1:05:16
  like, oh, I am paying to do this.
• 1:05:20
  Yeah, like he's not a mercenary. He's like, I'm paying for you.
• 1:05:25
  Yeah. It's just who.
• 1:05:27
  Yeah, that's a really haunting one.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, I did not. Do it justice in the way.
• 1:05:31
  I just recapped it. Okay.
• 1:05:33
  It sure does love it. It's fine.
• 1:05:34
  Go watch the movie. Yeah.
• 1:05:36
  We recommend you watch every movie we talk about.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah. I am so past back at the hostel,
• 1:05:42
  the guy at the front desk, who suddenly we don't see Vala
• 1:05:46
  anymore. She's no longer working in the
• 1:05:48
  front desk. Interesting.
• 1:05:49
  Yeah. So the guy at the front desk,
• 1:05:54
  says that oh yeah. Josh checked out this morning
• 1:05:57
  and he's like, what know, where you checked out, too?
• 1:05:59
  I was like, what? No.
• 1:06:01
  And he's like, what about Canna over there?
• 1:06:03
  And he's like, yeah, no, she left, like she checked out to
• 1:06:06
  you. Like, she's like everybody.
• 1:06:08
  Check out. I don't like, dude, I'm trying.
• 1:06:09
  That right now. Yeah, I don't even know this.
• 1:06:13
  So this is what the Eagles are singing about because they all
• 1:06:17
  checked out, but they didn't really leave Hotel California.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah. Oh, you think this movie was
• 1:06:22
  inspired by Hotel California? Now, I remember, they're likely
• 1:06:25
  what I'm doing a bit? I know I was just going to say,
• 1:06:29
  like, it'd be funny if they're, I glisten, like, I really want
• 1:06:31
  to make a movie on Hotel, California, but we can't say
• 1:06:34
  that we did that. So let's just say we went to
• 1:06:36
  this really sketchy website, people love that.
• 1:06:40
  Yeah, so, Yeah, he asked for a key like, re rents the room but
• 1:06:47
  because he's technically a new renter tenant resident.
• 1:06:53
  I don't know what they referred to them as and hostile hostels,
• 1:06:56
  but technically, he's new. So when he gets up there, he's
• 1:07:00
  got two new roommates and it's the exact same scene as what
• 1:07:04
  they walked into before. I thought it was the same
• 1:07:06
  people. No, no.
• 1:07:07
  Really new girls. Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Interesting. Yeah.
• 1:07:10
  I assume that they rotate out because we're about to see so
• 1:07:12
  that Lana and Natalya again and they look fucking tired.
• 1:07:15
  Yes, they do. But yeah, so he tries to call
• 1:07:19
  Josh. He finds where Olli and Canna
• 1:07:25
  friend had their picture taken. Yeah, we do her name was, what
• 1:07:31
  was it? I saw it on IMDb but like a
• 1:07:33
  cheeky ever said out loud. Sookie you.
• 1:07:36
  Yeah you. So I'm not just saying ah like
• 1:07:42
  You can use on the last drive on.
• 1:07:43
  Yeah, you guys, one of them. Yeah, which disappointing that
• 1:07:46
  he wasn't. I know.
• 1:07:48
  Lots of shout outs to you. Keep it.
• 1:07:49
  We never got to see you Gina. So the kids come by, they steal
• 1:07:54
  his phone packs, chases them and almost choked spun out.
• 1:07:57
  Yeah, but then he has a little. He has a little moment where he,
• 1:08:01
  you know, I don't know if it's the whole character development
• 1:08:04
  that was going on before I talking about witnessing.
• 1:08:06
  The one girl died but he, what's up kid, go.
• 1:08:09
  Yeah but also Oh, it's kind of fucked up.
• 1:08:12
  They just murdered a kid. Oh yeah, so he goes, He files a
• 1:08:16
  police report technically he was filing a report about his phone
• 1:08:19
  being stolen and then he also mentioned has been.
• 1:08:21
  Yeah. Also, those guys are gone, but
• 1:08:23
  my phone here. Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  But like most of that got cut. So it seems like he's filing a
• 1:08:27
  missing report on Josh and the cops was like, I mean, like,
• 1:08:31
  it's fine. Yeah, I know.
• 1:08:33
  You can like the cops everybody that works in.
• 1:08:36
  This town seems to be in there. I think their bribe by the
• 1:08:40
  organization. No way.
• 1:08:42
  See him later. Yeah.
• 1:08:43
  And so he definitely is. Yeah.
• 1:08:46
  How convenient that he talked to the one God?
• 1:08:50
  I know. Right?
• 1:08:53
  Maybe it's got like, on his record like maybe he's like, I'm
• 1:08:55
  the best English speaker. Let me talk to all the
• 1:08:57
  Americans. Maybe, I don't know if that was
• 1:09:00
  the actual intention, probably not, but I like that Cannon
• 1:09:03
  right there. So, He follows, he's like
• 1:09:10
  Svetlana, yeah. He's he's closer.
• 1:09:13
  No, he sees sees Natalia. Yeah, so he follows her there,
• 1:09:18
  like in a dive bar. Very different setting from
• 1:09:20
  where they've been previously and they're like in the back,
• 1:09:25
  they clearly don't wash their hair, they've got no makeup on
• 1:09:27
  it. Look like they haven't slept.
• 1:09:28
  They look like, they're hungover.
• 1:09:31
  Like they're still very, very pretty girls, but it's very
• 1:09:33
  clear there in a different frame of mind.
• 1:09:36
  Damn, they almost seem really exhausted to see them show up.
• 1:09:40
  Yeah. You Iraq.
• 1:09:42
  Like, did that just so I kind of make them more reflect how ugly
• 1:09:45
  they are inside throughout the movie, compared to how they were
• 1:09:48
  at the beginning. That's what is said, fuck that
• 1:09:52
  though, because they're still very, very pretty.
• 1:09:55
  Oh yeah. But like, you know, they will
• 1:09:58
  look rough here. They looked rough.
• 1:10:00
  I wouldn't like they just look like they weren't wearing makeup
• 1:10:02
  and hadn't washed their hair. No man likes being ugly.
• 1:10:05
  Their Eyes Were I like very much like baggy and dark.
• 1:10:09
  I don't know. Like they look like they just
• 1:10:10
  hadn't swept. Yeah, so that's not.
• 1:10:13
  That's not equal ugly. He is definitely okay, never
• 1:10:19
  mind. I'm not going to say because I
• 1:10:20
  would sound as a personal attack that type of a statement.
• 1:10:24
  I'm gonna wear it this way because I don't want to like
• 1:10:26
  personally attack him. There are plenty of people who
• 1:10:28
  say things like that, it's definitely that kind of
• 1:10:30
  mentality of like, I don't like women that wear makeup.
• 1:10:33
  You look best when you're all natural and then like they point
• 1:10:35
  to a picture. Of a woman who's definitely
• 1:10:38
  wearing me go. But it's just not like very
• 1:10:40
  obvious eyeshadow and lipstick and stuff and it's like, I can
• 1:10:44
  probably guess five products at a minimum that are on her face.
• 1:10:48
  Yeah, I get that. Yeah, so I don't know that I
• 1:10:52
  could have done without that bit of information.
• 1:10:56
  I'm just here to spit the facts to you but the facts they said
• 1:11:01
  that Josh went to an art installation which like yeah.
• 1:11:06
  Does sound like something Josh would have wanted to do?
• 1:11:08
  But like not only yeah not only always there also what?
• 1:11:12
  Yeah. No.
• 1:11:13
  I mean they're both there. Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  So Natalia agrees to take him to the art installation and in the
• 1:11:23
  car, like she's offering him gum and she's got like fat stacks on
• 1:11:27
  her purse man and he's like this is very suspicious and
• 1:11:33
  apparently this is Eli Roth's favorite scene in the whole
• 1:11:35
  movie. Questionable.
• 1:11:37
  Yeah, I don't, I don't get why. Yeah, like, I mean, as well
• 1:11:41
  shot. Like I just don't feel like it's
• 1:11:42
  that intense. No, it's nice.
• 1:11:45
  Just like, okay, where are we going?
• 1:11:47
  I guess we're going somewhere. All right.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah so when he walks into, by the way he sees somebody out
• 1:11:52
  front and it's a takishi. Miki Takashi, Takashi, Takashi
• 1:11:57
  Miike. God.
• 1:11:59
  What's his name in the movie again, Miki Takashi?
• 1:12:03
  Yeah yeah, I'm not even kidding. It's on.
• 1:12:06
  I wish the around. We didn't get any explanation.
• 1:12:09
  Why? He was in the movie.
• 1:12:10
  Yeah, we did not. We like, we watched so much
• 1:12:14
  amount of special features and there were still so many to go.
• 1:12:19
  We did not watch that one, but it did seem like when they had
• 1:12:22
  the dissecting hostile. Featurette.
• 1:12:27
  You saying something about wanting to be in it like he's
• 1:12:29
  just got a random throwaway line.
• 1:12:31
  Okay, so he is allowed, just he's just allowed straight Then
• 1:12:36
  he asked like what he needs to pay for admission guys, like,
• 1:12:39
  you can get them for free, he's walking down the hall.
• 1:12:41
  They see is Josh's body on the table and train, guys, just
• 1:12:45
  like, so when I'm up and then he turns around and yells at
• 1:12:50
  Natalya a lot and he calls her a bitch and she was like, oh, I
• 1:12:53
  got a lot of money for you. So I think technically you're my
• 1:12:56
  bitch which is good wine, hell of the.
• 1:13:00
  So these two to beefy men come in and grab him and drag him to
• 1:13:04
  a room, handcuff him to a chair. Third beefy man comes in with a
• 1:13:09
  tiny little guy. Tiny little German guy and he's
• 1:13:12
  like speak. And he's like, what do you want
• 1:13:14
  me to say? He's like, see, he's American.
• 1:13:16
  And he's like, I'm not American. So, like this guy like Parks is
• 1:13:24
  doing the same thing. The Josh was doing like begging
• 1:13:26
  and pleading crying all that. He realizes that the guy cannot
• 1:13:30
  speak English. So, he starts speaking to him in
• 1:13:32
  German, and he makes the German language sound, really
• 1:13:35
  beautiful, and I've got what he says.
• 1:13:36
  Here. So we don't nice.
• 1:13:37
  We don't have subtitles for any of the foreign language spoken
• 1:13:41
  like whenever there. Speaking Dutch, we don't know
• 1:13:43
  what they're saying. Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  So it's I guess it's like a decision.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah on there and it makes sense like you don't necessarily need
• 1:13:51
  to know what is being said. You get the, you get the gist.
• 1:13:56
  Yeah, but it's what he says, is not what I was expecting.
• 1:13:59
  Okay? So what he says to him is, if
• 1:14:02
  you kill me, I'll destroy your life.
• 1:14:04
  Every time you close your eyes, you'll see me.
• 1:14:06
  I'll be in your nightmares every night, your whole life.
• 1:14:09
  I will ruin it. I feel like he's trying to say
• 1:14:12
  like murder is bad, and it changes who you are as a person,
• 1:14:15
  but it really sounds like he's starting to haunt him.
• 1:14:17
  Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what he is doing there.
• 1:14:21
  That is, it's pretty powerful and then this guy looks like
• 1:14:26
  maybe he's moved for a moment and then he calls in the beefy.
• 1:14:30
  Man, who puts a ball gag on his mouth?
• 1:14:32
  Yeah. I like the guys, just try it out
• 1:14:35
  and different web it like he seems Very unsure of himself is
• 1:14:38
  a first timer for sure. Like he's like, how do I use
• 1:14:40
  this three-prong? Key tool is a taken, some
• 1:14:44
  scissors, and like, sipping it towards his face, so he cut off
• 1:14:46
  a piece of his hair or delete it in a baggie.
• 1:14:49
  Like a little dime bag for like a trophy.
• 1:14:51
  I'm assuming just like I assume the orange jacket guy took Oles
• 1:14:54
  jacket as a trophy truth. Yeah, I miss I'm assuming that
• 1:14:58
  trophies are included with the price of admission.
• 1:15:00
  That makes sense. Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  And the this is where I like I Fuel his Terror in this moment
• 1:15:09
  because there's nothing worse than the sound of a chainsaw
• 1:15:11
  side when you are trapped to the spot a Cuts.
• 1:15:15
  Awesome his fingers, he throws up.
• 1:15:18
  He's got this ball gag on his mouth and the guys like fuck I
• 1:15:20
  don't want him to choke to death.
• 1:15:22
  This is not what I paid money for.
• 1:15:24
  Jillian does the ball gag and he's like trying to check us
• 1:15:26
  throw and make sure there's no like chunky pieces and then like
• 1:15:29
  pack starts trying to bite him and he's like don't like that
• 1:15:32
  and then he goes around he's going Started saw him again but
• 1:15:37
  he slips on some vomit and the changes the boys, actually, from
• 1:15:41
  worried. Yeah, I thought it was going to
• 1:15:42
  be the vomit also, but looking at it should require everybody
• 1:15:46
  where non-slip shoes, like, in a restaurant, you would think.
• 1:15:49
  And also this guy is getting like a running.
• 1:15:50
  Go at it to. I don't understand what his game
• 1:15:52
  is here. I don't know.
• 1:15:54
  I like I like I said, I think he's a first-timer.
• 1:15:56
  I don't think he knows he's going to do fix him so he falls
• 1:15:59
  the chainsaw falls on his leg he freaks out.
• 1:16:02
  Wasn't that didn't that happen in one of the Texas Chainsaw
• 1:16:05
  Massacre movies? Yeah, it Is in the remake, okay?
• 1:16:10
  The sequel to the Remake? I think, I don't family's got a
• 1:16:14
  myth that franchise as a messy fucking timeline.
• 1:16:17
  It's almost as bad as Halloween's deadline at this
• 1:16:20
  point. Yeah, they're pretty much equal
• 1:16:22
  that. So, at this point like the chair
• 1:16:26
  is also falling apart so packs, manages to get himself loose.
• 1:16:31
  He shoots the guy in the head he calls for the Guard, the guard
• 1:16:33
  comes in. He shoots the guard, he Scoops
• 1:16:36
  up, his It'll thingies and then he runs.
• 1:16:39
  Yeah, he puts on a mask and an apron, first Smartwatch, you're
• 1:16:43
  still bleeding. Very heavily.
• 1:16:44
  People are going to have questions, but or I mean, I'm
• 1:16:48
  sure people get like a little bit too carried away in my
• 1:16:51
  accidentally hurt themselves. You know, it doesn't seem like
• 1:16:54
  it would be that uncommon there. Yeah, so he, he finds he like
• 1:17:00
  ducks into a room because like, bodyguards are walking his way,
• 1:17:03
  bodyguards security, whatever the fuck they're called, he,
• 1:17:06
  Into a room sees. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 1:17:10
  I just wanted to point out so whenever he's calling that
• 1:17:13
  security guard to come in there. You see that he's watching porn?
• 1:17:17
  Yeah. The porn that he is watching is
• 1:17:20
  called Travis really doing some research this week.
• 1:17:24
  Well, this one is interesting because it's called sex fever.
• 1:17:27
  It's a cabin fever parody. Yeah.
• 1:17:31
  So it was kind of funny that he acknowledged that and put it in
• 1:17:34
  this film. Okay.
• 1:17:35
  So that was That was one that was independently made, Eli Roth
• 1:17:39
  found out about it and thought it was funny, I'm sure.
• 1:17:41
  Yeah, he didn't make himself. It's an actual like porn parody.
• 1:17:45
  Okay. Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  I could see him filming that I could to they did this whole
• 1:17:49
  like behind the scenes for a poster in the background of a
• 1:17:53
  scene. Like not even that big a deal.
• 1:17:55
  They decided that there had been three.
• 1:17:57
  Shot is three shots. They make a poster of like an
• 1:18:00
  80's glam, rock band, because the one of the production
• 1:18:04
  coordinators earthy is He's like a higher-up person mark because
• 1:18:09
  bhikkhunis be canis beginners. Yeah I did not write his name
• 1:18:12
  down as I'm going off in memory. He was in a rock band animal
• 1:18:17
  apparently. Yeah.
• 1:18:18
  So they decided they were going to do that.
• 1:18:20
  So I could seal are often like yeah we're going to shoot.
• 1:18:24
  Six fever, shoot, sex you've heard?
• 1:18:26
  Yeah, that's funny. But yeah, he's in the closet.
• 1:18:31
  He's in the closet. He gets onto this cart full of
• 1:18:35
  bodies. And as wheeled down to like
• 1:18:39
  morgue crematorium butcher shop, whatever.
• 1:18:42
  I don't know about this guy credited as the Butcher and like
• 1:18:46
  he's hiding underneath a body, he drops his fingers, he's
• 1:18:49
  trying to pick them back up at the guy, Scoops down and grabs
• 1:18:51
  his fingers and I was like, dude, those are going to get
• 1:18:53
  reattach. Anyway, I get I get what's
• 1:18:55
  happening to him psychologically and why he's holding on to him,
• 1:18:58
  but like, yeah, those fingers were going to slow you down.
• 1:19:01
  If you felt the need to hold on to him for the rest of the
• 1:19:02
  movie, most definitely. So he Sneaks up all the guys
• 1:19:08
  putting body parts into the furnace and hit them with a
• 1:19:10
  sledgehammer. Brutal Swift, very good moment
• 1:19:14
  of self-preservation. He manages to find an elevator
• 1:19:17
  gets upstairs to a locker room. I'm really impressed with the
• 1:19:20
  way he is navigating around this place while we just magically
• 1:19:23
  stumbling into all of these places, he's not even trying
• 1:19:25
  he's just trying to figure out where to go but he's going to
• 1:19:27
  all of the right places. Yeah, there's definitely some
• 1:19:29
  movie magic stuff happening here like for such a For such an
• 1:19:37
  expensive, highly illegal organization, you would think
• 1:19:42
  that they would have better security.
• 1:19:45
  Protocols, the building is my broken down.
• 1:19:48
  Its there's holes in the walls. Like this guy doesn't have to go
• 1:19:50
  through the front door. You just have to walk out the
• 1:19:52
  side of the house like the building.
• 1:19:53
  Yeah, like that. I don't know.
• 1:19:55
  There's a little bit of Cinema like, yeah, we're just going to
• 1:19:59
  work, but I mean the setting is like an actual run down hospital
• 1:20:02
  at least. Yeah, or factory.
• 1:20:03
  And you know. Yeah.
• 1:20:06
  So he It's to the locker room. He sees that cop from before
• 1:20:09
  outside and he's like, well shit.
• 1:20:12
  He puts on some guys suit and gloves.
• 1:20:15
  It's like the drivers suit I think.
• 1:20:17
  Okay and then this guy that is definitely on cocaine comes in
• 1:20:22
  and is asking like the best way to kill somebody and like packs
• 1:20:26
  is like do it quickly goes nah fuck that.
• 1:20:29
  And he's like they arranged that the real special for me pay 50
• 1:20:31
  Grand and he throws the gun that he has because you know, he's
• 1:20:35
  holding One for whatever reason into the laundry bin.
• 1:20:39
  That's how you know, he's just Coke.
• 1:20:40
  Yeah which is quite literally chekhov's gun because packs is
• 1:20:44
  about to use it but like you're supposed to introduce chekhov's
• 1:20:47
  gun in the First Act. Come on, Eli thought you were a
• 1:20:51
  movie writing Prodigy movie, right ingenious.
• 1:20:56
  He manages like, yeah, it's just, like, run out.
• 1:20:59
  He gets to a car that has a key in it.
• 1:21:02
  Like everything seems perfect. Then he hears Candace cream.
• 1:21:04
  Somehow, he hears her, A big scream, nobody else's from
• 1:21:08
  outside but she is experiencing some pretty.
• 1:21:12
  This is a torch, the worst fucking thing I could ever
• 1:21:14
  imagine. Yes, I forgot how nasty this is.
• 1:21:17
  Yeah, in my head, I thought this thing went on a wall a lot
• 1:21:20
  longer than it is. It's just so fucking horrific
• 1:21:23
  that it feels like it goes on a lot longer.
• 1:21:25
  Yeah. So he runs back inside because
• 1:21:27
  you know that story earlier he has to go save the person just
• 1:21:31
  this is his character Arc. Yeah, so he goes back in there
• 1:21:34
  and he shoots up to dude because the guy he's just going in there
• 1:21:37
  just to hang out. And yeah, it's like get your own
• 1:21:39
  fucking room, buddy? Yeah, hey pal.
• 1:21:41
  Hey, what's up, man? But instead he just likes to sum
• 1:21:45
  up and then we see that he has had a blowtorch and is just
• 1:21:49
  putting out all up and kiss her. I specifically, like, right at
• 1:21:53
  her eye and her eyeball is hanging out of her head.
• 1:21:58
  It's nasty. It looks so recessed, the actor
• 1:22:02
  that played that part, it was in the future there, whenever Kept
• 1:22:06
  her eyes closed the entire time. They were doing the make up for
• 1:22:08
  that. And whenever she saw it for the
• 1:22:11
  first time, she cried, she, she said that she understands why I
• 1:22:15
  heard her commit suicide. Yeah, oh, I totally get it.
• 1:22:18
  Like I do not have a survival Instinct, I don't think because
• 1:22:23
  every time I see these movies, I'd be like I would just fucking
• 1:22:25
  kill myself. Like I do not have if I was hurt
• 1:22:29
  that badly like I don't feel Like I just like that's my
• 1:22:35
  survival Instinct is to just not do this anymore.
• 1:22:38
  I think realistically you would pass out from the pain in this
• 1:22:40
  situation, hope so. And to make matters worse, he
• 1:22:44
  liked and he doesn't know how to handle an eyeball hanging out of
• 1:22:47
  her head, so he just grabbed scissors.
• 1:22:48
  No, but hold on. Yeah, hold on.
• 1:22:51
  This is I get the whole not knowing how to handle it.
• 1:22:55
  Like maybe it's just easier to get rid of this fucking thing.
• 1:22:59
  That would be one thing. But what's happening is she
• 1:23:02
  screaming at him and he's like, I don't know what you're saying,
• 1:23:05
  I don't know what you're saying and he picks up the scissors.
• 1:23:08
  And I'm like, if you don't know what she's saying, you don't
• 1:23:11
  assume that she's saying. Hey, please cut my eyeball off
• 1:23:16
  and I will expel every ounce of pus that has ever been created.
• 1:23:20
  Oh man, this scene is so fucking gnarly.
• 1:23:23
  This is its best. Yeah, this is like the best
• 1:23:25
  effects in the movie. The yeah, it's awful but like in
• 1:23:28
  a good way. Okay.
• 1:23:28
  Oh there's a spider. Ah we're on the carpet right by
• 1:23:32
  your foot. It looks like a little crumb.
• 1:23:35
  Yeah fuck. I watched it move.
• 1:23:39
  I'm going to kill it. The BET.
• 1:23:45
  Give me the book right? Behind you.
• 1:23:49
  Oh my God. Hurry don't touch my leg.
• 1:24:00
  My God. Where is it?
• 1:24:11
  Did it go you let the Roomba suck the spider out?
• 1:24:24
  Like it probably went underneath the dresser.
• 1:24:33
  Yeah. Yeah, I'm leaving it because
• 1:24:37
  this is funny. Anyway.
• 1:24:43
  He gets her back out into the car.
• 1:24:44
  They run into no issues, they start driving, they get to an
• 1:24:48
  Alleyway. He sees Svetlana and Italian,
• 1:24:51
  Alex, and just fucking hit them, but they're being tailed by
• 1:24:55
  people from the place. So, when those people drive
• 1:24:59
  through, they like finish killing off those things, they
• 1:25:02
  just run them the fuck over. They get to a point.
• 1:25:06
  There's, they see the kids. The bubble gum kids and he looks
• 1:25:11
  over at his giant bag of bubble gum which was shown earlier
• 1:25:15
  whenever they were on the way to the factory in the first place.
• 1:25:17
  Because yeah, I guess there that's uses like a common bribe
• 1:25:20
  tool apparently. So, He gives the kids this
• 1:25:26
  entire bag of bubblegum to kill. The people tailing him and that
• 1:25:31
  these kids are the real mercenaries of the movie.
• 1:25:33
  Honestly. God.
• 1:25:34
  You think about it? Yeah.
• 1:25:38
  So we think they're going to make it to the train station.
• 1:25:40
  But then, there's like, what is the word for?
• 1:25:42
  It's not a roadblock checkpoint, checkpoint type thing.
• 1:25:48
  But yeah, the cops are like beating people.
• 1:25:50
  So he's like, don't want to deal with this.
• 1:25:53
  So, Actually, now that he knows the crop that cops are crooked.
• 1:25:56
  So they just like, fucking run out of the car, run down the
• 1:25:59
  hill, they get to the train station and then Canada sees her
• 1:26:04
  reflection and she's just like They can't and she jumps in
• 1:26:11
  front of a train. The actress said it was really
• 1:26:16
  traumatizing to watch her body being mutilated by the train
• 1:26:20
  because they did like over her body went through a lot.
• 1:26:23
  Yeah, just the way. All the makeup and everything
• 1:26:25
  that they did to her character, she had definitely had the
• 1:26:27
  worse. Yeah but packs uses the
• 1:26:30
  commotion that's caused by this to get on sneak onto a train.
• 1:26:36
  So her traumatizing a crowd of onlookers was not completely in
• 1:26:40
  vain. Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  So we So this is we're almost at the bridge between real like the
• 1:26:47
  fork where the alternate ending and the real ending is so the
• 1:26:51
  theatrical cut is, first of all, he's on the train and he's
• 1:26:55
  sitting there going wherever and he overhears the conversation
• 1:27:00
  that they had before with the man, the Dutch businessman,
• 1:27:04
  where he says again, I prefer to eat with my hands.
• 1:27:08
  What should this fucking guy is eating salad in front of another
• 1:27:11
  person? You just know he does.
• 1:27:13
  Not wash his hands very regularly.
• 1:27:15
  No, that's yeah, it's nasty. But he recognizes that he's
• 1:27:18
  there. So, he gets off at the next stop
• 1:27:20
  with him. And here's where we have the
• 1:27:22
  work. So, in the theatrical cut, he
• 1:27:24
  follows him to the bathroom and like, while the man is pooping,
• 1:27:29
  he drops the elite hunting business card underneath the
• 1:27:32
  stall. And the guys, like, oh shit,
• 1:27:34
  this is not good. And when he leans down to pick
• 1:27:36
  it up Pax, grabs, his hand cuts off the same fingers that are
• 1:27:40
  cut off. On his own hand, he comes around
• 1:27:42
  to the stall. Drowns him in the in his toilet
• 1:27:46
  in his own shit. Yes.
• 1:27:49
  Which that scene is even weirder now that like we know from
• 1:27:52
  behind the scenes that Prague toilets do not have water so he
• 1:27:55
  was not, they've traveled at this point, okay?
• 1:27:58
  Yeah. They're in a different country,
• 1:27:59
  I believe at this point. So yeah, he does that.
• 1:28:02
  And then like he holds him up, he can see his reflection in the
• 1:28:05
  like, trash basket thing behind him.
• 1:28:08
  And like it's a very similar shot to how Josh was killed,
• 1:28:11
  which not like packs. Would know that But yeah but
• 1:28:14
  it's for us. Yeah that is for us and he just
• 1:28:17
  like slits his throat and I gets on a train goes home.
• 1:28:19
  Presumably yep. So that's how that ends.
• 1:28:23
  So, the director's cut the way that you all are off, wanted
• 1:28:27
  things to be. Do you want to Ross vision?
• 1:28:31
  Is that when the businessman gets off the train, his daughter
• 1:28:36
  saskia is waiting for him who she's waiting with, we don't
• 1:28:40
  know. Well, because apparently that
• 1:28:41
  adult is no longer there after this moment.
• 1:28:44
  Yeah. So he follows them.
• 1:28:47
  They're going to go to the bathroom at the same time and
• 1:28:52
  when he comes out like he on his way out of the bathroom, he sees
• 1:28:55
  a scalpel yes on the edge of the counter.
• 1:28:57
  And he's like, hmm, that's not normal.
• 1:28:59
  And so he goes out there, he's waiting for his Order.
• 1:29:01
  He asked a couple women coming out if they'd seen a little girl
• 1:29:04
  in there. They're like please stop talking
• 1:29:06
  to me. So he like he just decides he's
• 1:29:09
  going to duck in there and he finds her teddy bear and then he
• 1:29:13
  starts running around and he's screaming and he's looking for
• 1:29:15
  and then it cuts to a shot of packs on the train, holding the
• 1:29:18
  little girl like covering her mouth and she's crying.
• 1:29:21
  Yeah, it's a really dark ending and that's the reason why they
• 1:29:25
  didn't go with it. They with test audiences.
• 1:29:28
  They thought that the ending was too like creepy.
• 1:29:31
  In dark. Well, so here's the thing, it in
• 1:29:34
  the theatrical cut. He's getting his revenge, we're
• 1:29:38
  rooting for him. There's a symbolism of the
• 1:29:41
  business man being killed the same way.
• 1:29:42
  Josh was Paxton kind of gets his growth Arc.
• 1:29:47
  Sort of like you know, he couldn't save his friends but
• 1:29:51
  he's at least going to avenge them, right?
• 1:29:53
  Yeah. In this cut, he is fully the
• 1:29:57
  monster. Kind of, he's kind of taken this
• 1:30:01
  kid away from a monster. I see his reasoning.
• 1:30:05
  It's not what you would need this.
• 1:30:07
  Not the best way to go about this.
• 1:30:09
  Yeah but like he's a kidnapper now.
• 1:30:12
  Contact authorities there. Yeah.
• 1:30:14
  Listen this man, I saw this man kill somebody like please just
• 1:30:17
  get him now. Yeah so as I like it I like it.
• 1:30:22
  Yeah, it's a but I Kind of like the dark nature of it.
• 1:30:25
  Like I like things that are super fucked up especially with
• 1:30:29
  endings that kind of leave you with this sense of like holy
• 1:30:32
  shit that was that was not cool like it's nice.
• 1:30:37
  It's a nice little lingering feeling that you get from stuff
• 1:30:39
  like that but I understand why they went with the other one but
• 1:30:45
  that's the movie, that's the movie.
• 1:30:48
  All right. Do you feel any better after
• 1:30:51
  talking about it? No, because there was so much of
• 1:30:54
  like, okay, they're back at this club, okay, they're back at this
• 1:30:56
  club. Okay, they're back at this club.
• 1:30:57
  Oh wait, why is it so easy for him to get through this
• 1:30:59
  Warehouse? I don't really think it's like
• 1:31:03
  easy for him. He's just like magically finding
• 1:31:08
  these places, you know, he's trying to get out, he's not
• 1:31:11
  trying to like go to the he just conveniently uses his
• 1:31:16
  environment. It wasn't convenient of him to
• 1:31:20
  go to the more, you try and justify this.
• 1:31:23
  The more, I'm gonna knock down my score.
• 1:31:25
  Really. Yes, you're not doing a good or
• 1:31:27
  knocking it down more. Yes.
• 1:31:29
  What are you going to rate it? A 3.
• 1:31:31
  A 3. A 3.
• 1:31:32
  Do you really think this movie is a three?
• 1:31:35
  I'm annoyed by it okay but think fire for a second three and a
• 1:31:39
  half that's better. The more you sit here and try
• 1:31:43
  and justify how it makes sense, makes it very obvious how it
• 1:31:46
  doesn't make sense and you're not coming up with a feasible
• 1:31:50
  justification. I I'm gonna put mine up to an 8
• 1:31:55
  because I really enjoy talking about this.
• 1:31:57
  I think that it's like an amazing display on effects.
• 1:32:00
  I don't necessarily think the story is strong.
• 1:32:01
  Like I said before, the characters are weak.
• 1:32:03
  The story is not strong, but the effects are great.
• 1:32:07
  Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like what we talked about with the
• 1:32:10
  guys over at the certain real, like, this movie isn't meant to
• 1:32:14
  be a deep movie. It's Not Meant to have these
• 1:32:17
  characters that you're supposed to care about have fun watching
• 1:32:20
  this. The same way I have.
• 1:32:21
  Watching pumpkin head. Those are two different types of
• 1:32:25
  things and this movie is not meant to be fun, I get that.
• 1:32:29
  But I like and that's what I get from this movie.
• 1:32:31
  I get this sense of like doom and I get this, I just get to
• 1:32:37
  see some really fucked-up shit, makes me feel uneasy.
• 1:32:40
  I like getting that feeling from horror movies.
• 1:32:43
  I like the fun horror movies, those are amazing, but whenever
• 1:32:46
  I get actual shit like that, that's an amazing feeling deep
• 1:32:49
  and uneasy at the end of it, I just don't like Like the
• 1:32:52
  beginning of it, drags too much, it feels very unbalanced as a
• 1:32:54
  movie. Would you rather be like, more
• 1:32:59
  of like what we get in the back end?
• 1:33:01
  Or would you want, what you want that?
• 1:33:03
  Like more splice in throughout the movie or yeah.
• 1:33:06
  Okay. I want like I want more of that
• 1:33:11
  roller coaster effect. All right.
• 1:33:12
  Is this your change? Yes.
• 1:33:14
  Okay, this is my change. This is what I would change.
• 1:33:17
  I would alter some of that just to make the pacing a little bit
• 1:33:21
  less tedious. Okay.
• 1:33:23
  So what's our final thing, 5.7 Have a little bit, we're not
• 1:33:27
  .25. Okay, Talia how a lot to say
• 1:33:31
  about this movie. So Travis decided at 18 minutes
• 1:33:36
  and he needed to take out the trash.
• 1:33:38
  And Talia was like, cool, I'll go with you, and then she went
• 1:33:41
  out there and the neighbor's dog was out in their front yard.
• 1:33:43
  So, she ran over to their front yard and peed in their yard.
• 1:33:46
  Yeah, like it's fine. Ellie was cool with it and I was
• 1:33:51
  walking away and I know you, I walked over to the Spy was like
• 1:33:54
  citizen. What the fuck, dude.
• 1:33:56
  And then try was comes back in sits down starts the movie and
• 1:34:01
  at 90 minutes till he hits her button to go outside and poop
• 1:34:03
  except she just goes outside and stands and then at 22 minutes
• 1:34:08
  she made us check under the couch twice for her toys because
• 1:34:11
  the first time we checked we found a toy.
• 1:34:13
  And then she was like, maybe there's more toys over there.
• 1:34:15
  Please check again and there were not more toys and then she
• 1:34:19
  fell asleep and had like kicking running sleep barking dreams.
• 1:34:23
  So, I think I'll take some From that.
• 1:34:26
  I think that's a good response. Yeah I know I think Tyler gives
• 1:34:29
  this may be a solid seven. Yeah I think she enjoys what he
• 1:34:32
  was going for. She had she had fun.
• 1:34:36
  She did. She had fun?
• 1:34:37
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:34:41
  All right intervention unit review.
• 1:34:42
  Okay. All right.
• 1:34:43
  So I got 10 and we also have reviews from listeners also, but
• 1:34:52
  I'll start off with the internet review and then we'll just kind
• 1:34:55
  of take it from there. Wait, do the listener reviews
• 1:34:59
  first because those are usually more favorable towards my me.
• 1:35:02
  Yeah, they're kind of okay, so got our man in Feldman again.
• 1:35:07
  All right, what's up? He says loved it.
• 1:35:10
  Close. Look at dark Hobbies of the
• 1:35:12
  crazy rich and then a lot of emotes like all of like the
• 1:35:16
  tools used to kill people. I like that interpretation of it
• 1:35:19
  and I do think that the next two movies in the trilogy explore
• 1:35:22
  that a little bit more. Yeah.
• 1:35:25
  They don't fully they take that premise and they run with.
• 1:35:27
  Yeah yeah and then the next one was from this is from on
• 1:35:36
  Twitter. Narcotic casserole.
• 1:35:39
  Hey, what's up man? You can't Sam.
• 1:35:42
  All right he says definitely a trowel to get through but
• 1:35:46
  fortunately Eli Roth understands the importance of a good payoff
• 1:35:49
  and damned it. The end of this one.
• 1:35:51
  Didn't feel Seth's SS fine. Sorry, I fucked that up.
• 1:35:55
  I agree with that. It is a satisfying ending.
• 1:35:59
  The theatrical cut is a satisfying ending in.
• 1:36:03
  I mean, you know, like I said, Eli Roth does know how to give a
• 1:36:06
  good ending a good impactful ending.
• 1:36:09
  I think about the ending of Cabin Fever where The one guy
• 1:36:11
  gets shot. Yeah, that's a really.
• 1:36:14
  Yeah, like so I do agree with that and obviously I also agree
• 1:36:18
  with the fact that it is kind of a trial to get through.
• 1:36:21
  I just think you could completely ignore the first 30
• 1:36:24
  to 45 minutes of this movie and you would not have this much.
• 1:36:27
  Yeah well yeah I mean I'm not going to say I'm not going to
• 1:36:32
  disagree with that I think I agree with that.
• 1:36:36
  Okay okay so I found the user internet review here.
• 1:36:40
  All right, all right. This one says hostile is a
• 1:36:43
  low-budget horror film that has a gimmick, the film messes with
• 1:36:47
  your mind and the effect is sadness.
• 1:36:48
  And anger is this what truly happens to people who are
• 1:36:51
  denied? Their once there is torture in
• 1:36:54
  the viewing experience. The film makes you want to go
• 1:36:57
  out and plant daisies and attend church right away.
• 1:36:59
  Its effect is brutally painful. If also is trying to State,
• 1:37:03
  something is how we fall victim to desire and dwell in it
• 1:37:08
  damaging those we seek for temporary fulfillment Be careful
• 1:37:12
  for today's Pleasures, can be tomorrow's suffering.
• 1:37:15
  The film is a cesspool of wasps and tortured as has said, mmm
• 1:37:21
  Set of masochists, say a sadomasochist.
• 1:37:24
  Twisted, Fantasy and director Roth places.
• 1:37:27
  You write in it? No, thanks.
• 1:37:29
  Yeah, it had a big opening weekend and has developed a semi
• 1:37:32
  cult following with the bush generation.
• 1:37:35
  I don't understand that, but whatever horror film should
• 1:37:38
  strive to be, so I give it one for that achievement.
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  There's just kind of funny because they've basically are
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  like singing. The Praises, like, this is a
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  great horror film. I hate it, you know?
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  Yeah, I mean, it it like I said, Eli Roth is a technically good
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  director like I'm not faulting him for that.
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  I just don't personally want to watch the entire movie.
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  You know what I mean? That's fair.
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  Not good. I mean it's not everybody's bag.
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  Yeah, it's fine. I totally understand.
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  I like it though, so. Alright, so we are at the
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  change. Do you have a dream SQL?
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  Or we are in this movie? Are B, has to equal.
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  So we don't necessarily have to do that.
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  We don't necessarily have to do it but I guess I would.
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  It kind of depends on what ending we were thinking about.
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  Let's take a with the intended one, like what he wanted
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  originally. Let's see, how would you want
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  him to continue on with that girl?
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  I really don't know what I would want him to do.
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  I do not like that ending. I do not like him.
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  Kidnapping a child, it's really dark.
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  The best case scenario. She goes to a foster home.
• 1:38:42
  She becomes one of the bubble gum gang kids, okay?
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  And then we get a spin-off seeks revenge for her father.
• 1:38:50
  Oh, I guess she South the people at Big hunt organization.
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  Okay? Elite hunting big hunt.
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  I don't know. I was blinking.
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  I was trying to get okay, I like that.
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  Could you relate to I mean, Paxton's whole random.
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  Oh yeah, childhood trauma like. Hey, we're having a good time.
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  Did I tell you about why I dissociate every other night
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  Fair? Okay, I can see it.
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  I'm going to choose the kids because they were into like the
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  whole they were basically so murder for bubblegum.
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  They're basically like playing trick or treat 24.
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  So trick-or-treat on hard mode. Exactly.
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  Yeah, it's fun. You know, they make their lives
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  interesting, they are so and they like candy, I Candy.
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  That's what would be great. We give you all our socials of
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  the beginning. I'm not going to do it again.
• 1:39:44
  Yeah, I'm going to say we should have her schedule up by now but
• 1:39:47
  the time that we're releasing this but next week we will be
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  here with. I think we're gonna go with stay
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  alive. Is it stay alive or staying
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  alive? Stay alive everything.
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  Okay, yeah. Staying Alive is the Bee Gees
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  song Stayin Alive because Amy shout out, Amy, she emailed us
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  and she was like, hey just got to your house.
• 1:40:08
  A wax at the soda. I know you've talked about Matt
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  choot choot cream at Choo-Choo Matt.
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  Hold on I wrote his name down see I can't do names without
• 1:40:19
  looking at them talking about Matt Matt shukri yeah who played
• 1:40:25
  Logan and he was also the mayor's son in eight, legged
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  freaks. And then we talked about Jared
• 1:40:29
  Padalecki who played Dean on Gilmore Girls and was in House
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  of Wax and how I was joking that I wanted to get me lovin TIG
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  Leo. Ventimiglia, I will practice his
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  name before we get to this, but I wanted to find a horror movie
• 1:40:42
  that he's in, so that way we can have all of Rory, Gilmore's
• 1:40:45
  boyfriends. And she was like, Hey found this
• 1:40:47
  war movie that he's in and I was like, you know what, looks like
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  we can rent it on Amazon for $4. Think that's what we're gonna do
• 1:40:54
  next week. Yeah, thank you so much.
• 1:40:56
  It has Frankie Muniz that's breaking in.
• 1:40:59
  So that's uh probably what's gonna be coming up.
• 1:41:01
  Yeah, I'm excited. So we haven't seen before but
• 1:41:03
  you know email your request. Like if you have a movie you
• 1:41:06
  want us to cover just to let us know.
• 1:41:07
  We'll gladly cover it. Yeah, well maybe I can't get
• 1:41:11
  like if we get a ton of requests and might be hard but not sure
• 1:41:14
  but yeah we will definitely way them.
• 1:41:16
  We will look at them will consider them.
• 1:41:19
  Yeah. Well do them.
• 1:41:20
  Yeah. Listen.
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  Alright, until next time. Bye.
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  He has a little moment where he is.
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  This was I had my finger up because I know she's thinking.