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Dangers of D.E.I. and Its Marxist Roots · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Fiorazo.
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Hello friends, family in Christ, welcome.
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Thank you so much for tuning in to World View Matters.
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Got a great guest today, Dr. Duke Pesto.
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We're going to be talking about DEI.
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I hope you're familiar with at least those initials.
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We're going to talk about where it came from, what it means,
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and kind of expose the scam, so to speak.
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I want to quote Christopher Rufo to kick off this program about DEI.
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He says, these programs preach the values of tolerance and inclusion,
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but in reality, serve as vehicles for left-wing racialist ideology
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and partisan political activism.
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I read a little bit more about what happened and where this came from.
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And one of the things that I believe, and I'll ask our expert in a minute,
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to explain this, M-F-E stands for merit, fairness, and equality.
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And it seems like DEI just all of a sudden dwarfed that.
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It's not even merit, it's not as important anymore.
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But I want to bring in our special guest today, Dr. Duke Pesto.
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He's a college professor and he is the director of Freedom Project Media,
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Freedom Project Academy, F-P-E-U-S-A.org.
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Welcome, Dr. Duke.
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Good to see you, Dave.
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Always good to see how you're doing today.
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Great.
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Good to have you, especially on this topic, DEI for dummies,
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because a lot of people don't know where this came from.
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So let's start right there.
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What is DEI?
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These words sound so innocent, and they sound so good.
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But where did this come from, and how is it being used today?
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DEI stands for diversity, equity, and inclusion,
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and wags, other than me, have pointed out
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that just to re-arrange the words, DEI is what you get.
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And it is the death of freedom and liberty.
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It really is.
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You think about the word equity.
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I want to start with there.
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So DEI, of course, the first thing I want to say about it,
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it is the enforcement mode of wokeness
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and political correctness.
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In fact, critical race theory is the idea
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that we must hijack all forms of culture,
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particularly education in this country,
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to teach a radical leftist view of race.
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And so the DEI is how it's implemented in schools.
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That's the major corporations, and the American militaries
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doing this now.
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So look, if you think about critical race theory,
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that's the theory or the idea that we're bringing back racism
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to fight racism, as Kendi, the famous social activist,
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professor, who says, what is the end of his book
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with racism in the past, racism today,
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and racism forever, basically.
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That the only way the left will win this battle
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if they segregate, and they racially segregate people
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in the way they say that the West is done in the past.
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So critical race theory is the idea,
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and let's go one step back real quick.
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Sure.
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There's Marxism out of which this emanates, right?
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This is pure, what the Marxists started with class warfare
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is now racial warfare.
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So this goes back to Marx, critical race theory
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is how it's been taught for the last 30 years or so.
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And then DEI is the implementation of that,
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taking over the institutions, and then transforming them,
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like you said, downplaying individuality, merit, achievement,
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all that stuff goes out the window
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because that's white supremacy now.
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And we replace it with diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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So to go back a little bit more, it's been ingrained in the system,
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meaning the University System Academic Corporations, of course.
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But people don't realize, I'm just one quick example,
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the University of Michigan.
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They began their DEI program in 2016.
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They will spend $63 million, and the NIH, National Institute of Health,
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will also chip in another $16 million
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for the Michigan program for advancing cultural transformation.
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That's a lot of words, to expand diversity and hiring.
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So you said something very interesting, racism in the past,
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racism now, racism.
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People like Jesse Jackson, and who's the other one,
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Sharpton, oh my goodness.
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Sharpton, they've made a living off of this,
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and there's got to be a victim.
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Yeah, and the U8 says something that was really important.
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Michigan, they say, has been doing it since 2016.
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Well, they've been doing it a lot longer than that.
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DEI came into play.
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Those initials came into play about 2015,
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but they've been doing this for 30, 40 years at the U8.
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It just wasn't called that.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, think about what's the word I'm looking for.
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Political correctness, which was about 20 years of that,
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then you had the idea that you got in the public schools,
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with the multiculturalism.
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And all of that was this.
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Multiculturalism in the 70s and 80s basically argued the same thing.
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That white culture was wrong, western culture was evil,
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but non-western cultures couldn't be criticized because
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we don't have the right as white people to criticize
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the horrible record of Japan or China or Islam.
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So what we talk kids through Howard Zins' socialist history
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is that western culture is inherently wicked.
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When you see that same wickedness in much more severe aspects outside of the west,
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well, they get a pass.
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So our kids grew up believing that America was evil
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and that we had no right to call out or even recognize the evil of other cultures.
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That became political correctness.
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That became DEI in about 2015.
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And so Michigan's been doing this for a lot longer.
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And it's very alarming that they're tying it like as COVID, right?
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COVID was a health problem.
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And so therefore, in the name of health,
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big government had the right to censor and segregate.
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So they're calling now what they believe is racism the same thing.
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It's a national health organizations are kicking in money to this
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so they can control us better.
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Can you mention COVID?
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And I've got to bring this up.
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And we're jumping around a little bit.
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By the way, if you just joined us, my guest today is Dr. Duke Pesta.
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He's the director of Freedom Project Academy.
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It's interesting.
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I've been taking a lot of notes on this and preparing for this show today.
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And there's so much more to learn about this.
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And again, I want to go to Chris Rufo,
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who's done a lot of research on this topic.
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He's done a lot of good for Florida and Governor DeSantis on this issue.
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The radical left in the US has been using DEI to mask tyranny.
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They are hiding behind a Trojan horse.
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And inside are perpetrators of a new religious cult,
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diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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And he goes back to 2020.
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You mentioned that.
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You mentioned COVID.
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Well, along that time, George Floyd.
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And so the left politicized the death of George Floyd.
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And the door went law and order.
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And it seems like when all the protests were going on,
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they were violent.
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They were blowing up police cars and
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town cities.
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They were destroying businesses.
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A lot of minorities lost their businesses.
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Black people, Hispanic people.
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They were victims in this, but it was for the cause.
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Yeah, you're exactly right.
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And the George Floyd was a catalyst, right?
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Let's not forget that he's a career criminal.
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He was stoned out of his mind.
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He was dangerously unhealthy.
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Yeah, you could make the argument, I suppose,
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that the police overreacted, I guess.
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But this was not what it was pertained to.
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This was not vicious cops looking for the first black guy they met
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and destroying him.
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This was somebody who was in the wrong place at the wrong time
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because of his own behavior, his history, his drug problem,
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who ended up dying in the custody of the police.
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So there you go.
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Having said that, that was the catalyst, right?
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That's what allowed this to move forward so quickly,
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because Black Lives Matter was the response to this.
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But you make a good point, whether you're talking about DEI
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or you're talking about COVID,
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the government is figuring out ways
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that they can override individual liberties
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and the free markets of our country
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and the fact that in America,
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we are equally under law.
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We were never meant to be equal out of outcome.
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And that's it.
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This is the socialism, right?
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DEI and the word equity is your giveaway, equity.
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It's not about equality.
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And this is the lie of the left.
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We have equality under the law.
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It is against the law to discriminate on the basis of race.
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So the only way you get around that
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is to emphasize equity over equality.
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And by definition, equity is outcome-based solutions.
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The blacks don't have as much money as whites.
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Blacks don't have the educational opportunities
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we're told it's not true, that white people do.
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But because minority groups aren't as wealthy
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as all the other ones, that's racism, right?
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So this is, you see what they're doing.
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They're undermining equality.
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We have equality under the law.
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That includes African Americans.
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But the problem is that that doesn't give the left
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the socialist leveling off of culture that they want.
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Do you think we only have two minutes before we have to take a break?
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Do you think that if American history was taught unedited
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and including how our Americans dealt with slavery
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and how Christians fought to abolish slavery in America?
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Other countries still have slaves.
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And do you think that would have made a difference
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in them not being able to get so much
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going under the DEI and the systemic racism?
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It's not just the teaching of accurate American history
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that would help, but teaching world history.
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Because like you pointed out, it's only in the West, really,
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that slavery has been formally repudiated, laws against it.
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The West is the only place where wars were fought to stop it.
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It was the West who first got rid of it.
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And like you pointed out, places all across the world,
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the Chinese have a one million wheat
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Muslims in prison, concentration camps, you've got Islam,
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taking people, black Africans out of Southern Africa
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and carrying them as indentured servants back to places
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like Saudi Arabia.
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Don't their lives matter?
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Yeah, no, they don't.
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Because they're not because blacks doing black things, bad things
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to blacks, Africans doing bad things to Africans,
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Muslims doing bad.
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No, no, no, they're not white.
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They don't operate the same way.
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We're more worried about what America did 150 years ago
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than we are what Islam or China is doing today.
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And that's the great hypocrisy.
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Yep.
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It's not called out enough.
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We've got so much more to come out.
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We've got to take a really quick break.
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All right, guys.
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Dr. Duke Pesta is my guest today.
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And we're talking about DEI diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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And one quote from Monarchal.
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This is a significant cultural and ideological revolution.
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One that has been accomplished with almost no debate
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or operationalization of terminology.
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I don't even know how to save that little one.
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I don't understand what it means.
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But Duke, yeah, no debate on this.
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This has been in the system before we are even aware of this.
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It would you explain it a minute ago.
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But it's not just education.
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I just want to point out a couple of things.
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The corporate level here.
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Practically, every fortune 100 company
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has adopted diversity, equity, and inclusion programming.
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And one expert said DEI is the vehicle to move communism
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into the corporate world.
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What do you think about that?
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Yeah, I mean, communism is the latest step.
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I think it's radical socialism first.
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But keep in mind, it was Mark's himself
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who said democracy is the first step to socialism.
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And socialism then is the first step to communism.
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So Mark's understood, you mentioned history before the break.
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If the American people understood
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we were a constitutional republic with checks and balances,
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if they understood why the electoral college mattered,
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if they understood why in America,
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we have free markets and opportunity.
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Why we have equality, not equity.
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That would help immensely.
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But 99% of my university kids and a large majority
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of Americans think we're a democracy.
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And remember what Mark said?
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Democracy is not about protecting the rights of minorities.
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Ironic, isn't it?
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That the left turned us into a democracy
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because it's democracies that do not protect
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the rights of minorities.
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They protect the majority.
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So the mob rule.
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And so what is the left wants?
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They want the very opposite of what they claim.
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They want to do away with the rights of minorities.
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It's getting rid of the electoral college, for instance.
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And what they want is a simple mob
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because mobs will go down the road.
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That Mark's understood this.
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You could take a constitutional republic,
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turn it into a democracy.
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It's going to be very easy to move it to a socialist state.
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And you mentioned communism.
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And as Mark's pointed out, socialism is not the end of anything.
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It is a final step toward communism.
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Yep, and we're beginning to understand that now.
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I think we're learning it the hard way too
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by seeing what's happening in our culture.
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But let's go back to something that I found to be very interesting.
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How does this Dr. Duke Pesta does this tie in at all
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to our history in the 1960s with affirmative action,
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equal employment legislation, the Equal Pay Act,
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Civil Rights Act of 1964, and then in 1967,
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we had the Age Discrimination Employment Act.
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We were just talking about the 2000s in 2015,
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how it got into the university system.
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But how did any of these tie in to DEI?
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Well, we should be really praising America
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for the last 60 years, not condemning it.
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Because the Civil Rights Movement put an end to segregation,
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which was the last holdover of slavery.
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With the end of segregation separate but equal,
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you now have a country that is no longer a systemically racist.
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You could make an argument that as long as segregation
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was the law, it was impossible to have equality.
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Well, that's been gone for 60 years.
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And so rather than see that progress over 60 years,
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the progressive left comes along and what do they want?
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They're bringing back segregation.
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We now have segregated graduations at colleges, right?
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Where blacks and Hispanics and the LGBTQ
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get their Native Americans are segregated.
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We're building campus buildings, Dave,
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that our badorbs where only minorities will live.
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So Civil Rights going backwards.
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Yeah, the Civil Rights Movement ended segregation.
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The progressive left under the characterization of DEI
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are bringing it back.
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Go back to what I said, what Abraham X Kendi said, right?
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That the only solution in the future is racism.
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The people who were racist before must pay the price
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by being treated, by this new rising class of people,
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basically let's hate white people
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and enshrine that in law, right?
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That to be white is to somehow be intrinsically evil.
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This is really hard to understand
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because it seems like they're, like I think you said it,
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they're discriminating, but it's all under the name of it.
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And the discrimination, right?
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Which is of course a lie, right?
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Fighting fire with fire burns down everybody's house.
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It doesn't fix anything.
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This is revenge.
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This is an ingest interpretation of history,
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taking the freest country in the history of the world
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and arguing it's the only racist country in the world.
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So you turn it to a socialist country
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and the irony, why are people coming to the huge number
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of people who are fleeing here
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and crossing the borders illegally?
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They're running away from socialist governments.
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And so what is our answer to all of this?
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Socialism discriminates.
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Let's fix the problem by trashing freedom
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and opportunity and protections under the law
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and the protection of minority voices.
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Let's get rid of all that to install socialism.
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And this is the problem.
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Many of the people who are marching behind Black Lives Matter
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and DEI programs do not realize what this is
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because for 50, 60 years we've not taught them.
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This could only happen through ignorance
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and our public schools are propagating
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for generations now cultural and historical ignorance.
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And so you got the under, where's it coming from Dave?
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The under 40s, the under 30s,
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overwhelmingly support socialist initiatives
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because they don't know any better.
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What was the percentage that we're supporting
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Bernie Sanders when he was running
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well over 60% of, was it millennials
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or just people under 30?
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I saw a statistic that said 74% of the college age group
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between 18 to about 25, almost three out of four of them
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would immediately transform this country
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into a socialist state if they could do so.
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No questions asked.
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So isn't it simple to conclude that if they knew
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the true history of socialism and dictatorships
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around the world, they would not support it?
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I explained it to my college kids.
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I did just last Thursday when I had class last.
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I said this, look, if you actually believe
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that any organization or country or individual
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who was not completely according to our sensibilities,
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woke, they must be canceled.
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And my kids get it.
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We got to cancel the flag.
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We got to cancel the Constitution,
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the founding fathers have to have their names pulled out.
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Anybody who fought for the Confederacy
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has to be a race.
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Okay, fine, I say I want consistency.
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If you believe that, then the first thing
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you have to get rid of is socialism.
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We're talking what, 400, 500 million dead
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in the last 200 years, 150 years.
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So if you're going to play the game
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and I tell them this, I don't want to cancel anybody
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myself.
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But if you want to cancel so-called racist people
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from the past and colonialist people
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and people who've done horrible things, genocides,
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well, before you touch Western culture,
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you got to get rid of socialism.
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And my kids are smart enough to realize.
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The professors are canceling groups.
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And the solution that the professors give them
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is socialism.
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And there's where I point out the lie.
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If you got to cancel, you got to cancel everything
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and that starts with socialism.
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But we're forgiving left-wing dictators.
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We're overlooking the horrors and the genocides
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of socialism.
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And that shows you.
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And even my kids who are badly undereducated,
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they can see the innate unfairness of this.
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But I don't know that it's going to do much
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to change the culture in the long run.
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Brainwashing is to kind of a word, I think,
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to use what's been happening with public education.
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And you know that.
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You talk about that all the time.
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Wasn't it somebody in the Obama administration
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was praising Mao?
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Well, don't forget.
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Wasn't that just like 10 years ago, it's not even.
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And Obama himself had a life-size portrait
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of Che Guevara in his Chicago offices.
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Now, Che was a murderer.
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Che had a vendetta against black and gay Cubans.
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And you don't hear that part of the story?
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No, no, no, no.
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He was a murderer.
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He created the killing fields of the Castro brothers.
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But because he was a doctor, Che,
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and he was killing in the name of progressive socialism.
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And so he's a hero.
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You can wear his t-shirts.
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And no one's going to care.
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But try showing up with a picture
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of Thomas Jefferson on your shirt.
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At a typical university, you're going to be called out for it.
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Or Donald Trump.
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But we won't go there.
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But yeah, that makes you make a very good point.
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I see kids with Che Guevara shirt.
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They don't even know who he is and what he stood for.
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And let's get back to the corporate level here.
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When we talk about DEI, Walmart.
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I mean, they're not alone.
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But they're ones that are going along with this.
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They are convinced America has a problem with systemic racism.
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So on Walmart's own website, they have a center for racial equity.
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It describes, quote, part of Walmart's larger efforts
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to address drivers of systemic racism and accelerate change.
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They work with other nonprofits.
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They have new positions created now developed.
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So we know marching orders have been given.
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Walmart Foundation has committed Duke $100 million over five years.
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And the center has invested $58 million to complement
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and extend the societal impact of Walmart's business initiatives
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to advance racial equity.
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So we're talking about DEI.
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This is just one example, one major corporation.
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And here's why they do it.
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Take Bud Light as another example.
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That's probably a more famous example.
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Bud Light put this mincing little puppet, right?
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Dylan McMilvaney on the cans.
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Now you and I, you're very kind.
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And everybody knows that Dylan Mulvaney does not drink Bud Light.
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In fact, in the commercial, they shot with him.
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He takes a sip and he's almost compare it himself.
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And Heiser Bush is not stupid, neither is Walmart.
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They realize that if you don't cater to the radical racists
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in this country, the progressive left,
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you could be canceled.
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You could be in trouble.
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Or they could be sued.
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Or they could be sued.
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And they don't fear the right.
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They don't fear middle America with Black Lives Matter
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and that global shakedown that that was.
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And again, what, 70, 80 million of that money
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is missing, completely absconded away
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by the people who ran it.
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It was a scam.
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And they have million dollar homes.
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And they have how fences around their homes.
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The people who started that movement.
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So my point to you is, is that all the big companies
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have figured out that the powers that be
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are on the side of equity.
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And so they can't really lose.
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The one mistake, well, see, notice what Walmart did.
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They behind the scenes, this is what they're doing.
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They're feeding all this money
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to these racial segregationists.
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But they don't have satanic trans clothing in their schools.
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In their stores.
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Target does.
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And so this is the difference.
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Walmart's just been smarter about it.
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The minute it bleeds into your product line,
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then we Americans have the only option we have,
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which is to boycott.
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And look at the lesson that Anheuser Bush.
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Do you think they learned though?
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I think, well, I think they did.
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I think if they could do it over, they wouldn't.
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Because you can do it, Walmart does.
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You hand out millions and millions of dollars
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to race grifters.
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They're not asking you for anything else.
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It's never about the cause.
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It's about their pockets.
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You mentioned Sharpton and Jackson from the 90s.
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Notice what they did.
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When you gave them payouts for the rainbow coalition,
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they stopped harassing you.
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So Walmart, and many people, I remember, you remember,
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20 years ago, Walmart was the great enemy.
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Walmart was this conservative Arkansas
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who was shutting off moms and pops and stuff.
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Now they're one of the golden boys.
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They're one of the globalists, right?
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And so the difference between Walmart and Target here,
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same initiatives, same stupid leftism,
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but Walmart hides it, at least doesn't foreground it.
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And people think they're not Target
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when they're exactly the same as Target.
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Yeah.
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Back to the university level real quick,
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we've just got two or three minutes left here.
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I just want to mention what they did over at Texas A&M
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that they were looking into the agenda here.
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And it says starting in the 90s,
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the university's leadership went all in
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for these types of programs that would advance social justice
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causes, but the latest climate report
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found that students now feel less comfortable on campus,
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less at home, and this was at Texas A&M,
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efforts to cultivate a more welcoming climate backfire.
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This is the DEI in fusion.
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And so according to students,
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well, it seems like they're more restricted.
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And so they're realizing this has been about imposing
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leftist ideologies.
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I don't think that's necessarily true.
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I think what's happened is you hire at Michigan,
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they have over 90 DEI officers, 90.
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Think about that.
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You hire all these DEI people
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and the only way they keep their jobs
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if they find racism.
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If there is no, if you've eradicated racism,
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they have no platform of change.
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So you hire one of them and one of them
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becomes three and five and 10 and 100.
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And so they got to keep finding it.
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So when you say, people, kids are becoming a woke,
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I don't think so.
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We're teaching kids, particularly minority kids,
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that they're always discriminated against.
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So they're always going to see more of it,
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which means you got to hire more of them
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and spend another hundred million dollars.
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They're also creating racism where there is not.
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They're looking under rocks trying to find it,
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but they're also giving the idea
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that it's more prevalent than it even is.
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You have to read Shakespeare in your English class,
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that's white supremacy.
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You have to prove your show your work in math.
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That's racism.
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Yeah, they're creating everything is racism now.
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Really quick, I'll end with this quote
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and get Duke's quick take on this
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because we're running out of time.
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Heather McDonald, she's at the College Fix Advisory Board.
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She spoke to this and she said,
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a university's task is the pursuit of truth.
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The DEI bureaucracy is founded on a lie,
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a lie which teaches students to think of themselves
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as victims to see racism or none exists.
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It creates through racial preferences,
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the very divisions and discomforts
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that it purports to solve in an endless vicious cycle.
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That's kind of what you were describing just a minute ago.
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Yeah, DEI is the big lie that allows all the small lies
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that if you tell a joke you're a racist,
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that if you ask somebody of a different race
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about their haircut, you're racist,
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that if you actually believe that math is subject objective,
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you're a racist.
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So the big lie, as with socialism,
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the big lie of socialism always enables a thousand small lies.
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Wish we had more time.
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There's so much, this is,
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it's not just a specific thing we're talking about.
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This is a whole movement and agenda and ideology.
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Dr. Duke, thank you for coming on World View Matters
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today, friends.
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27:46
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