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Driving the Polestar 2 - almost, plus the WORST feature on a Tesla, and more! · The Driver's Show

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Speaker 1: Thank you for setting up the studio today. And when
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Speaker 1: I got here an hour ago.
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Speaker 2: You said it to be ready and it wasn't. I've
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Speaker 2: already got my grumpy pants on. Don't test me. Don't
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Speaker 2: test me want to be on the wrong side of
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Speaker 2: you anyway. I'm just going to practice checking things for
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Speaker 2: Monday and I face some people. Have you been what's
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Speaker 2: news with you? I told everyone I'm buying a Ranger
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Speaker 2: Raptor yep, which is great. So could you get that
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Speaker 2: June delivery July? Of course, by the way, for the
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Speaker 2: rest of you who've got those on order, you'll get
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Speaker 2: that July next year. Fall gets dodgy treat Now.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to clarify because I was concerned about this
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Speaker 1: when I asked for I put it out on social line.
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Speaker 2: I said, look, I want to buy one.
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Speaker 1: If you're a dealer and you can get me one
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Speaker 1: in your first allocation, hit me up.
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of drug dealers that hit it up.
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Speaker 1: I had a lot of dealers get in touch with me,
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Speaker 1: and we got to the point where I was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm probably going to start pissing people off if I
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Speaker 1: take someone's order, like an actual custom of it.
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Speaker 2: Like put an order in a year ago or something.
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Speaker 1: So what I ended up doing was I found a
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Speaker 1: dealer who was willing to give me his personal vehicle
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Speaker 1: and he will then go to a later allocation, so
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Speaker 1: big shout out to him. I'll have some more details
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Speaker 1: on that when I finally get a little closer to it.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I'm excited for that. Currently in the
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Speaker 2: process of figuring out which color to buy. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to get the beadlock rims. It should be good fun. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: getting in black.
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking black or conquer gray, which is like a
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Speaker 1: Narto gray style color.
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Speaker 2: And what color rims?
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Speaker 1: The rooms will be black? I think there are like
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Speaker 1: a matte black with the beadlocks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah good. Are you going to get the whole just
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Speaker 2: dip it brakes, the calipers. I'm not going to do that.
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Speaker 2: Come on, bro, get something to match that Monster Energy
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Speaker 2: flat cut you've been wearing in that gym beam shirt. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I actually also conjuring up my registration plate because I
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Speaker 1: want to get a toolish registration plate.
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Speaker 2: So PNSC a Penis car Noel. I was going to
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Speaker 2: get SML DCK small deck. I don't know what is that? Yes, jeez,
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Speaker 2: it is available so accurate.
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Speaker 1: But did you see in the news just quickly. I
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Speaker 1: know I'm springing this on you now, but someone pulled
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Speaker 1: a nineteen sixty eight Manara, like the Bathurst edition out
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Speaker 1: of a shed. It had been there for forty five years,
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Speaker 1: and it's going to auction in a few well as
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Speaker 1: of recording this a few weeks time, I'll be interested
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Speaker 1: to see how that goes, because the interior looked amazing,
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Speaker 1: and they obviously cleaned it and all that sort of stuff,
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Speaker 1: and the outside looked pretty schmid For forty five years
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Speaker 1: in a shed.
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Speaker 2: I'm always dubious on those sorts of things because like
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Speaker 2: the interior, especially like they've got hay and bloody mice
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Speaker 2: and crap have been in them.
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Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking as well. Forty five years
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Speaker 1: is a long time of floods, hot weather, ramole I mold.
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Speaker 1: And I look at this and I'm like, this is unrestored,
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Speaker 1: and it looks like it's in excellent condition.
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Speaker 2: I do wonder whether someone finds one.
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Speaker 1: Of these, keeps it dusty for six months and goes, hey,
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Speaker 1: this was in a shed for forty five years.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how are you going to know? Wow? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that will be interesting. I want to get we should
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Speaker 2: get a picture of that up. Is there a news
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Speaker 2: article on that? There is? Yeah, I actually did a
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Speaker 2: Channel seven US piece on it yesterday. Oh okay, mate,
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Speaker 2: we all know you're sleeping with Jennifer Kaye. Come down.
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Speaker 1: Another one that I saw as well was a VS
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Speaker 1: GTSR so you know the yeller yeh with the big wings.
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Speaker 1: Colm had one of those that had been in storage
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Speaker 1: for twenty odd years, as in car port for twenty
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Speaker 1: odd years. It has five thousand k's on it, so
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Speaker 1: they're currently sort of restoring it. Really, but with those things,
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Speaker 1: they're so easy to dodge the odos on them that
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Speaker 1: five thousand k's I would find it pretty hard to believe.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, do you know what they do?
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Speaker 1: They get lots of social media coverage and then goes
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Speaker 1: up to auction all of a sudden and everyone goes, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's the car that was in storage. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: go throw some cash on it.
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Speaker 2: So is that what you did, your old AHSVS? You
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Speaker 2: threw that on socials, isn't it? Unfortunately? Did you get
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Speaker 2: good dollars for those? One has sold. The other is
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Speaker 2: in an option soon look out guys, and you too
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Speaker 2: could own a piece of poor memorabilia an SML dc CA.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Speaking of news, the BMW seven series
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Speaker 2: surfaced surface. I love the way you said that, like
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Speaker 2: it's a deep sea creature. It does look like one
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Speaker 2: literally is. And you know what we were touching on
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Speaker 2: last step with the X seven x seven. Yeah, how
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Speaker 2: I said, Usually a lot of Chinese market cars or
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Speaker 2: Asian market cars will borrow features a lot from European cars.
4:45
Speaker 2: This is exactly reverse. This is the BMWG seventy by Genesis. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it is weird. It's weird. What do you make of
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Speaker 2: the split headlights? I just there must be a reason
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Speaker 2: for it, And at this stage I don't know what
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Speaker 2: it is. Because it's a t friend that's clearly coming
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Speaker 2: from somewhere because we've seen it on a lot of
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Speaker 2: Hyundai Kia stuff. I think this is like mullets. It's
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Speaker 2: a trend, but it shouldn't be a trend. Did you
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Speaker 2: have a mullet? Oh my god, you did? No, Yes
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Speaker 2: you did? Oh no, you didn't. You you had something
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Speaker 2: going on. I saw an old can we get that
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Speaker 2: fatal up? I've seen you in a it a Baghatti.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, with your bloody pink fluoro T shirt
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Speaker 2: and your acne issue. There was no mulletboat. Oh there
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Speaker 2: was something a flat top or a mohawk or something.
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Speaker 2: Jesus did you steal that? Is that what you went away?
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Speaker 2: Is that what you disappeared for ten years?
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Speaker 1: It was an aston Martin, a V advantage convertible that
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Speaker 1: my colleague Elbows, drove from Geelong to Adelaide. I drove
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Speaker 1: it to Geelong and while it was in Geelong, we
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Speaker 1: were at a servo and someone almost ran into it.
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Speaker 1: This like actual ban in, an old falcon who didn't
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Speaker 1: like wealthy people near him. He kind of like almost
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Speaker 1: ran it off the road. So at that point we thought, okay,
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Speaker 1: time for you to leave. This is enough time in
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Speaker 1: Geelong for a Astin.
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Speaker 2: But oh, my fun story. When I was living in Geelong,
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Speaker 2: I remember pulling out of a servo into you know,
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Speaker 2: the sort of service lane. I guess pulled out of
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Speaker 2: a servo into the surface lane and dude sped right
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Speaker 2: past me. He was just like dodging traffic in the
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Speaker 2: service lane. So I beeped him. And at the time
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Speaker 2: I was in Oh, I was in my daddo two
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Speaker 2: sixties ed. This guy literally foot on the brake, smoke everywhere,
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Speaker 2: ran out of his car to my car with a
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Speaker 2: crowbar and started like pointing to the bonnet. And I'm like, please, please, sir,
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Speaker 2: please don't. I'm small and meek and I love my car.
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Speaker 2: What ended up happening good? I woke up in the hospital.
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Speaker 2: There's still a crowbar hanging out of your head. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's robust in my ass, and a lot of asaline.
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Speaker 1: No offense to tolong people, but some long people are scary.
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Speaker 1: Some are present company excluded.
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Speaker 2: Now. Ah, so, yes, the BMW seven series weird looking.
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Speaker 2: We should have let's have a quick look at it. Yes,
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now.
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Speaker 1: So outside is weird looking, but I tell you what's
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Speaker 1: not weird looking the interior.
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Speaker 2: The interior.
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Speaker 1: Yes, so I love what they've done here because they've
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Speaker 1: got this enormous screen in the second row and the
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Speaker 1: way they've been able to get away with this. The
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Speaker 1: screen basically prevents your rear vision out of the car,
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Speaker 1: but because they're using digital mirrors, it means that you
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Speaker 1: can just see out the back with that whole thing
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Speaker 1: in your way.
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Speaker 2: So it is really pushing the game. Weirdest thing ever.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pushing the game forward. Though when you think
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Speaker 1: that this is going to be used as a limousine.
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Speaker 1: Most of the seven series sales are in China, so
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Speaker 1: that is the biggest market for this car. The Chinese
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Speaker 1: love the ability to basically be in the second row
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Speaker 1: of their vehicle, so this is where that whole thing
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Speaker 1: comes from. They've got screens inside the rear passenger doors,
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Speaker 1: amazing wood grain. They've got that same glass set up
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Speaker 1: they had in the IX.
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Speaker 2: As well, So this be the seventh series would traditionally
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Speaker 2: you'd probably find at an airport, yes, or an executive
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Speaker 2: of some description. God, that is polarizing, isn't it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: But just have a look at the interior. I think
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Speaker 2: literally the outside is the worst part.
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Speaker 1: And then and also you probably don't care because you'll
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Speaker 1: be inside, either in the front row or the second row.
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Speaker 2: But they've also launched the I.
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Speaker 1: Seven, which is the I Guess Electric version of the
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Speaker 1: seven series, and it is loaded with all of the
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Speaker 1: good stuff. It is huge as well in terms of
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Speaker 1: its size. It's almost like five point four meters long,
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Speaker 1: so longer than a ranger.
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Speaker 2: The Man of screen working this thing on the arm
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Speaker 2: ress and all sorts, so it's incredible. The chairs in
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Speaker 2: the back turn into kind of lounges, like you know,
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Speaker 2: you can flip them back and almost get a tan
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Speaker 2: from the summer.
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Speaker 1: In terms of the engines, it starts off with the
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Speaker 1: seven thirty five, which is a three leater turbo six
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Speaker 1: great engine used in the Supra, and then it goes
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Speaker 1: all the way to the I seven X drive sixty,
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Speaker 1: which is their electric version one hundred and two kilowatt
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Speaker 1: hour battery. So it's a big battery, which means driving
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Speaker 1: range for up to six hundred and twenty five k's.
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Speaker 1: It'll do zero to one hundred and under five seconds
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Speaker 1: with that electric drive train as well, or will drive
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Speaker 1: four hundred kilowatts seven hundred and forty five newton meters.
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Speaker 1: So it is really cool and I think that BMW
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Speaker 1: has bet the rest of its competitors to the market
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Speaker 1: with this. And to think that Mercedes Benz is still
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Speaker 1: producing a may bark that it doesn't have any electric propulsion,
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Speaker 1: I think BMW has really bet.
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Speaker 2: A lot of these guys to the game. These guys
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Speaker 2: traditionally had a V twelve in them at one point,
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Speaker 2: didn't they.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, V twelve's dead, so BMW announced that they're not
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Speaker 1: doing that anymore. So, And did you see in the
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Speaker 1: in the interior picture as well, the screens in the
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Speaker 1: back fold into the roof so you can see them
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Speaker 1: shot there with the.
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Speaker 2: Fold out lounge.
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Speaker 1: By the way, if you're listening to this you want
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Speaker 1: to see what this looks like, if you head to
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Speaker 1: car expert dot com today you and just search BMW
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Speaker 1: I seven you'll see the pictures there.
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Speaker 2: But maybe something on Drive Show Socials. Thanks thanks for
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Speaker 2: the blug broight. It does look incredible. Hey, while we're
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Speaker 2: on this, what's your take on screens being used as
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Speaker 2: revision mirrors and side mirrors? No? No, right, what what
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Speaker 2: a stupid idea? Yeah, look, it sounds such a bougie
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Speaker 2: ridiculous thing. Like, it sounds cool in theory, right, but
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Speaker 2: when you're using it, it's so much better to use
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Speaker 2: a mirror like real life.
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Speaker 1: Well, the other thing with the mirror as well, is
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Speaker 1: when you move your head you get different perspective, whereas
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Speaker 1: with a screen, no matter how much you move your head,
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Speaker 1: you're seeing the same image. And I tested it recently
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Speaker 1: in the Audietron, and I found it really distracting, very bad.
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Speaker 2: At night time.
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Speaker 1: And the ironic part is that they use those slim
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Speaker 1: line mirrors for arrow so you save sort of electricity
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Speaker 1: because you're not having to push the car as much
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Speaker 1: through the wind, But then you have to use electricity
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Speaker 1: to the camera and then also the screen, so it's
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Speaker 1: like it.
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Speaker 2: Cancels each other out. Yeah, surely. And can you imagine
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Speaker 2: in a car park someone nudging that, It's like, oh,
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Speaker 2: we'll replace that for you. That'll just be eighteen thousand dollars. Yeah,
11:14
Speaker 2: what used to be something like you could kind of
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Speaker 2: bend back into shape annoyingly. Yeah, oh, someone's har me.
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Speaker 2: This is like, oh, someone's literally just killed off a
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Speaker 2: camera on my car. Yeah, I'll have to wait for
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Speaker 2: the factory in China to make some semiconductors. One mirror
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Speaker 2: will be like a normal mirror and the other will
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Speaker 2: be a computer. Yeah. Ah, r out, it's not good.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I have that trend dies quietly
11:38
Speaker 2: saying do you know what trend? I have? Dies quietly?
11:41
Speaker 2: Rivers fashion? That would be nice. I don't stop at
11:46
Speaker 2: rivers all right, mate, Calm your little bloody rivers farm
11:50
Speaker 2: in the Tesla in the plaid for instance. Yeah, what
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Speaker 2: do they call that, the yoke? The yoke? Yeah, the
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Speaker 2: yolk can die a horrible death. Definitely.
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Speaker 1: Did you see Toyota and Lexus have launched their evs
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Speaker 1: now with the option of a yoke. It is the
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Speaker 1: dumbest thing. I looked at an Edmund's social media clip
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Speaker 1: the other day. They were driving a Lucid, the big
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Speaker 1: electric car over there, and a Tesla model ast around
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Speaker 1: a track and every time they went to turn, the
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Speaker 1: guy almost lost control.
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Speaker 2: Because I think they're dangerous. It's so dumb.
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Speaker 1: Look, it's fine for if you drive on a highway,
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Speaker 1: but if you need to do U turns if you
12:21
Speaker 1: need to If you want to drive your car on
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Speaker 1: a track, it's a fast car, it's designed to do that.
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Speaker 1: You can get a track package. The yoke is the
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Speaker 1: dumbest thing in the world because any track that has
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Speaker 1: a sizable turn, you will need to just not use
12:34
Speaker 1: your car.
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Speaker 2: If you're wondering it, basically, yog is I guess something
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Speaker 2: a steering wheel that you would find for the pit
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Speaker 2: of of a cockpit of an F one or a
12:41
Speaker 2: bloody fighter pilot's steering wheel yeah, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: It's so stupid, and those none of those vehicles have
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Speaker 1: any turn requirements that are beyond one turn, so.
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Speaker 2: Especially if you're looking at the power in a Tesla plaid, Oh,
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Speaker 2: that's kind of dangerous. Yeah, a neglige.
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Speaker 1: It the other crazy thing as well, with stability control.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this, but with stability control,
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Speaker 1: if you lose control of the vehicle, if you keep
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Speaker 1: the steering wheel at dead center, stability control won't do anything.
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Speaker 1: It only activates when it knows that the direction of
13:16
Speaker 1: your steering is going contrary to the direction of the car.
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Speaker 1: So in that instance where the steering wheel doesn't really
13:22
Speaker 1: turn all that much, if you lose grip of the
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Speaker 1: wheel and it stays dead ahead, just career into something.
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Speaker 1: So it's just such a stupid system. There's actually a
13:32
Speaker 1: lot of Tesla stuff at the moment that's just irritating me.
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Speaker 1: They've got a setup with their cars where they're removing
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Speaker 1: all of the auxiliary senses, so radars go on. They've
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Speaker 1: committed to not using light r so their cars are
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Speaker 1: now driven entirely on cameras, which is great, except every
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Speaker 1: camera I've ever used the second you go from dark
13:50
Speaker 1: to light, it has a moment where it can't see
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Speaker 1: anything because it has to adjust its exposure. There's been
13:55
Speaker 1: countless incidents now where with this full self driving beta
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Speaker 1: that they're using, where cars are veering into stationary objects
14:02
Speaker 1: and hitting things that they shouldn't be hitting. There was
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Speaker 1: one clip yesterday that I shared on Twitter where a
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Speaker 1: bloken a Model three that was on autopilot changed lanes
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Speaker 1: into a lane where a truck had rolled over. He
14:14
Speaker 1: disengaged autopilot and then smashed into this truck that was
14:19
Speaker 1: in the lane that had rolled over because the car
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Speaker 1: couldn't see it. Now, a car that's using radar or
14:24
Speaker 1: lighter is able to detect this stuff in the distance
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Speaker 1: and is able to then slow down accordingly. So I
14:30
Speaker 1: just think that this technology is undercooked and stuff like
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Speaker 1: the yolk, it's just there for fun and it just
14:36
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent agree. I think it's a lot
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Speaker 2: of it's there for a wow and cool factor, and
14:41
Speaker 2: they're putting that almost to market far too early. Yeah, look,
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think that I love that Tesla's innovating and forcing
14:49
Speaker 1: others to innovate, but the technology. I think they're not
14:52
Speaker 1: admitting that it's not working. And they've been talking about
14:55
Speaker 1: this working now for five years and it's just never
14:59
Speaker 1: really worked the way they want to to work.
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Speaker 2: So speaking of Tesla, I guess they've done an iPhone
15:04
Speaker 2: where iPhone we're dropping the charging cables to save quote
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Speaker 2: the planet, and now Tesla dropping their charging cables of
15:12
Speaker 2: their cars. It's so dumb.
15:15
Speaker 1: I know where it sounds like we're ripping into Tesla
15:17
Speaker 1: this episode.
15:18
Speaker 2: But we should do actually speaking which we will be
15:21
Speaker 2: doing a Tesla special. I reckon we'll have to.
15:24
Speaker 1: So they're announcing that it's between two and four hundred
15:27
Speaker 1: US dollars as far as I can tell, to get
15:29
Speaker 1: a charger with your car, and according to Elon Musk
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Speaker 1: on Twitter, usage statistics were super low, so it seemed
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Speaker 1: wasteful to include it. Well, that's dumb because if you
15:39
Speaker 1: see that the usage statistics are low, that's because most
15:42
Speaker 1: people charge at home. I've used our mobile charger probably
15:45
Speaker 1: three or four times, and the times that I've used it,
15:48
Speaker 1: I've needed it because the place I've gone to hasn't
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Speaker 1: had a charger. So what do you want me to
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Speaker 1: do when I get there just stand around and hope
15:54
Speaker 1: that the car charges through osmosis.
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Speaker 2: Or something whiless charging. Yeah, So it's just they make
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Speaker 2: such stupid things.
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Speaker 1: And another thing they deleted recently was lumbar support for
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Speaker 1: the passenger again because usage showed that it was low.
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Speaker 1: It's like, obviously when you sit in the seat, you
16:11
Speaker 1: said at once you don't adjust it fifteen times per drive,
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Speaker 1: So now that you can't adjust it, it's like, of
16:18
Speaker 1: course usage is low.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. They're literally going by data that
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Speaker 2: they've been able to capture of your.
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Speaker 1: Car, but it's poor data. It's like, well, your airbag's
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Speaker 1: really used, we're going to remove that. I mean, wheels
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Speaker 1: don't wheels aren't used while the car stationary?
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Speaker 2: Do we just remove those? Ye? Cars park?
16:34
Speaker 1: I mean it's just getting to the point now where
16:36
Speaker 1: they're just their penny pinching and it's getting a little embarrassing.
16:40
Speaker 1: They really need to stop around with the formula.
16:43
Speaker 2: What is your take on buying a second hand Tesla?
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Speaker 2: Because I saw one market and I was like, ah,
16:48
Speaker 2: it's not bad. I looked on the inside. Honestly, I
16:50
Speaker 2: don't reckon the interiors of these ages that well, there's
16:54
Speaker 2: something about it feels like the way Americans treat their leather.
16:57
Speaker 2: I get it. In a lot of American cars, it
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Speaker 2: tends to look crunchy after a while. Yeah, it just
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Speaker 2: tends to just look I don't think it's meant to.
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Speaker 1: I think that some of their earlier cars had issues
17:09
Speaker 1: with crunchiness. But as for example, when we sold ours,
17:13
Speaker 1: it had the white interior and it looked brand new,
17:16
Speaker 1: and you could wipe it down with it because it's
17:18
Speaker 1: not leather, so it means you can use chemicals and
17:20
Speaker 1: other stuff on it, whereas with leather there's only a
17:22
Speaker 1: certain amount of things you can do to it. So
17:25
Speaker 1: ours looked okay after two years. But my concern with
17:28
Speaker 1: buying any electric car secondhand is that you're buying outdated technology.
17:32
Speaker 1: So you don't want to be left holding the bag
17:34
Speaker 1: when they finally figure out solded state batteries and you've
17:37
Speaker 1: got a car that has a declining battery capacity that
17:40
Speaker 1: you're going to have to do something with.
17:41
Speaker 2: But I mean there'd be software updates, so it would
17:43
Speaker 2: be that would still be able to accommodate a lot
17:45
Speaker 2: of those cars though still right, I guess.
17:47
Speaker 1: Software updates, yes, But the problem is your battery capacity.
17:50
Speaker 1: Once it starts degrading, you don't get that back, no,
17:53
Speaker 1: So you know, the more you fast charge it, the
17:55
Speaker 1: more it degrades. So yeah, look, I mean, obviously the
17:59
Speaker 1: prices will come down after this whole semiconductor thing, but yeah,
18:02
Speaker 1: I am more a fan, especially with electric cars having
18:05
Speaker 1: the most modern technology. If you look at internal combustion cars,
18:09
Speaker 1: sure you might get a little bit of extra efficiency
18:10
Speaker 1: every now and then, but they don't fundamentally change the formula,
18:13
Speaker 1: whereas electric cars are constantly evolving and I think quickly
18:17
Speaker 1: too and quickly. Yeah, they're tipping so much money into it,
18:21
Speaker 1: and they are very expensive at the moment, So yeah,
18:23
Speaker 1: I think that that's something we need to take into
18:25
Speaker 1: account as well.
18:26
Speaker 2: It would be interesting if you could recondition your car
18:29
Speaker 2: like EV like you can pretty much recondition an iPhone
18:32
Speaker 2: or phone.
18:33
Speaker 1: Eventually we'll get to that, because the battery cells in
18:35
Speaker 1: these vehicles are all clumped together, and in theory, you
18:39
Speaker 1: should be able to swap them out for a new battery.
18:41
Speaker 1: If that happens, then you could have effectively infinite life
18:44
Speaker 1: out of your EV. It's kind of like reconditioning a car,
18:47
Speaker 1: except you have a whole lot less moving parts. A
18:50
Speaker 1: battery is an easier thing to replace. So eventually, when
18:53
Speaker 1: the world, you know, unfix itself and we're in a
18:57
Speaker 1: better position with things, then I think that could be
19:01
Speaker 1: a future that we see.
19:02
Speaker 2: I think it'll have to I mean, I think Pressura
19:04
Speaker 2: will mount up. I mean, if you've got an EV
19:06
Speaker 2: that's over five years old, and that's gonna happen, you know,
19:09
Speaker 2: when the e waste kind of built up, generally we're like,
19:12
Speaker 2: look at all these shitty old mobile phones. Just put
19:15
Speaker 2: them in this thing at there's been at the servo
19:17
Speaker 2: when we'll give them to poor people in Africa. Yeah,
19:21
Speaker 2: there's going to have to be this. I mean, shit,
19:23
Speaker 2: when you're talking cars, it's a big deal. You know
19:26
Speaker 2: where they wind up.
19:27
Speaker 1: I did a couple of trips to India and it
19:30
Speaker 1: was very depressing to see kids melting plastic cables to
19:36
Speaker 1: expose the copper that they can then go and sell. Yeah,
19:38
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff and ethically gets sent over
19:41
Speaker 1: to third world countries so that kids can inhale toxic
19:45
Speaker 1: fumes to go earn someone a bit of money.
19:47
Speaker 2: So ye, anyway, anyway, thanks different for putting a bit
19:51
Speaker 2: of a positive spin on the body. Thank you, hey,
19:55
Speaker 2: charge Fox. This is big. We're still on EV's and
19:57
Speaker 2: we're still sitting over EV's at the moment, but it
19:59
Speaker 2: needs to happen. Charge Fox they basically own all the charging,
20:04
Speaker 2: the charging network across Auscharlitia.
20:06
Speaker 1: Right, Australia's biggest charging network. So there are other providers,
20:09
Speaker 1: but these guys are the biggest.
20:10
Speaker 2: They're topping up their prices by fifty percent.
20:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, so on their three hundred and fifty Kilowa charges,
20:15
Speaker 1: the prices that you pay for electricity there are going
20:20
Speaker 1: up by fifty percent. Now, if you've got your last
20:22
Speaker 1: electricity bill, it didn't go up by fifty percent. So
20:25
Speaker 1: these guys have artificially increased the prices here.
20:28
Speaker 2: Now, it's not an issue. It is a business. So
20:30
Speaker 2: you've got to make money.
20:31
Speaker 1: And if it's by increasing your prices by fifty percent,
20:34
Speaker 1: that's fine.
20:34
Speaker 2: That's massive though in Jump, but there's two big issues
20:37
Speaker 2: I have.
20:38
Speaker 1: Number One, A lot of the time their network isn't working,
20:41
Speaker 1: so a few of the times I've been to their
20:43
Speaker 1: charges they've been faulty, so I've had to wait for
20:45
Speaker 1: other people to leave to actually use a.
20:47
Speaker 2: Charger, say six available, and two of the six could
20:50
Speaker 2: be working.
20:51
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly, and that's obviously not their fault. They're using
20:55
Speaker 1: third party hardware, but they're not fixing it, and often
20:58
Speaker 1: it'll be down for weeks or months before actually get
21:00
Speaker 1: it sorted. Second part is that there is a huge
21:03
Speaker 1: government investment. It's in the millions, if not tens of
21:05
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. So you're telling me that me as
21:09
Speaker 1: a taxpayer, I'm helping fund your EV network while you
21:12
Speaker 1: guys go and jack your prices up by fifty percent.
21:15
Speaker 2: And won't up keep as well? Yeah, and won't up keep.
21:17
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think so, So I think I
21:20
Speaker 1: don't know if the government's aware of this.
21:22
Speaker 2: But whoever's funding.
21:23
Speaker 1: This, it's a broad group of investors that includes the government,
21:28
Speaker 1: there are private investors as well. It just puts a
21:31
Speaker 1: bad taste in your mouth. This early in the development
21:34
Speaker 1: of evs, it doesn't make any sense. And the other
21:36
Speaker 1: thing that I find very bizarre, they spent a lot
21:39
Speaker 1: of time harping on it. At one of their sites.
21:41
Speaker 1: You roa where it's entirely solar powered. Solar power charges
21:44
Speaker 1: batteries on the site. The batteries then charge your car.
21:47
Speaker 1: So it means that they rarely have to go to
21:49
Speaker 1: the network to pull electricity. So why am I paying
21:52
Speaker 1: fifty percent extra there when doesn't actually cost you anything.
21:56
Speaker 2: This is clearly like a bunch of people sitting around
21:59
Speaker 2: a boor and making this decision. It does like it.
22:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the uptake of EV's at the moment, it
22:05
Speaker 1: seems very strange that they would be jumping to jack
22:07
Speaker 1: prices up, and then, on top of that, if your
22:10
Speaker 1: network is as bad as it is, get it fixed
22:13
Speaker 1: before you put your prices up. It just makes no
22:15
Speaker 1: sense to me why they're doing this.
22:16
Speaker 2: I feel like they've almost gone Hey, the popularity of
22:19
Speaker 2: evs is growing more than faster than we first imagined.
22:24
Speaker 2: We need to jack these up while we can. The
22:27
Speaker 2: less people that know about it the better. While it's
22:30
Speaker 2: still low, especially when they're dealing with federal cash, a
22:33
Speaker 2: federal cash allowance. It's beyond shitty. It's kind of it's shifty.
22:38
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing I also found strange. So we
22:41
Speaker 1: run a story on this because I got sent an email.
22:43
Speaker 1: I subscribe to their network, we use it when we
22:46
Speaker 1: charge and all that sort of stuff.
22:48
Speaker 2: So I got the email and then we run a
22:50
Speaker 2: story based on the email. Now one of our old.
22:55
Speaker 1: Site, Car Advice, which is now Drive, they basically ran
22:59
Speaker 1: the story, except in their story they obviously copied ours
23:05
Speaker 1: because they didn't have that information, but they contacted charge
23:08
Speaker 1: Fox for a comment, and charge Fox wouldn't supply a comment.
23:11
Speaker 2: So it really just amuses.
23:13
Speaker 1: Me how you're jacking up your prices and then you're
23:16
Speaker 1: refusing to talk about it for whatever reason.
23:19
Speaker 2: So I don't know, it just doesn't feel great. The
23:22
Speaker 2: other thing as well, that I'll point out at this
23:24
Speaker 2: stage is that Tesla with their superchargers, their supercharger network
23:29
Speaker 2: is basically faultless. Every time I've gone to use a supercharger,
23:32
Speaker 2: it's worked perfectly.
23:33
Speaker 1: Fine, and then when they haven't, you know about it
23:35
Speaker 1: through the car before you actually get there, so you
23:37
Speaker 1: don't waste your time getting there and figuring out that
23:40
Speaker 1: it's not working. So it really is just a case
23:42
Speaker 1: of needing to spend more effort on fixing their network,
23:45
Speaker 1: getting it all working, and making sure that you know
23:48
Speaker 1: you are jacking prices up when required, not just because
23:50
Speaker 1: you feel like it.
23:51
Speaker 2: Should we talk Polster too, Yeah, let's do it usually
23:55
Speaker 2: do yes? Yes? Now I should say you lucky enough
24:00
Speaker 2: to drive one of these, and I'm going to just
24:02
Speaker 2: sit back, get my pie out of the microwave because
24:05
Speaker 2: I was not able to jump in one of these
24:07
Speaker 2: at all. Thank you Polster Marketing, who I don't know
24:13
Speaker 2: if they even exist. By the way, before we begin,
24:15
Speaker 2: Pollster sounds like something from a strip club. That's what
24:20
Speaker 2: I thought.
24:20
Speaker 1: If you put a space between Pollard stars, it's like.
24:25
Speaker 2: That dance Dance Revolution in Time Zone. You know that
24:27
Speaker 2: one where the little kids trying to dance on the
24:31
Speaker 2: lights on the floor. This is like the pole dancing version,
24:34
Speaker 2: but electric. The Polestar too. Prices start from sixty three
24:39
Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars for the standard range single motor to
24:42
Speaker 2: seventy three four hundred dollars for the long range duel motor. Yeah,
24:45
Speaker 2: I find it really odd.
24:46
Speaker 1: So the Polestar two is a Tesla Model three sized
24:49
Speaker 1: ev It competes with the Model three in terms of
24:51
Speaker 1: pricing and all that sort of stuff.
24:53
Speaker 2: But if you go to the Pollstar website in Australia.
24:55
Speaker 1: And try and configure one, it says due to high demand,
24:58
Speaker 1: we're currently closed for your orders. Pre configured cars may
25:01
Speaker 1: still be available. Should you wish to be contacted when
25:04
Speaker 1: orders reopen, please leave your details. I just want to
25:07
Speaker 1: see how much it costs. You know, you can't even
25:09
Speaker 1: get basic information. And I think it's such a bizarre strategy.
25:12
Speaker 1: What is to stop some unjust figuring out how much
25:14
Speaker 1: the car costs so they can go and do their things.
25:16
Speaker 2: So it's odd. It's like, uh, we're really inundated. We're
25:21
Speaker 2: just going to close shop. Yes, that's literally what it's done.
25:24
Speaker 2: We're closed up. You can't do test drives, you can't
25:26
Speaker 2: go into a dealer and even look at one of these.
25:28
Speaker 2: You can't even see what it looks like on a computer.
25:30
Speaker 2: We're just we're cooked. We're done.
25:32
Speaker 1: Gearly bought Volvo. Gearly as a Chinese car brand. They
25:35
Speaker 1: bought Volvo, Volvo started Polestar. Polestar has been ipo'd, so
25:42
Speaker 1: it is its own entity on the stock market, and
25:46
Speaker 1: that means that it has its own sort of profit loss,
25:49
Speaker 1: all of that sort of stuff. It's basically their EV
25:53
Speaker 1: division two right, yeah, exactly, So it is all all
25:56
Speaker 1: just all just evs.
25:58
Speaker 2: Now. The interesting thing with Polestar.
26:01
Speaker 1: Being all evs is that you would think that they
26:04
Speaker 1: would develop an EV chassis and all this sort of stuff.
26:07
Speaker 1: But the Polestar too, which is the Model three competitor,
26:10
Speaker 1: is actually based on the XC forty, which is an
26:12
Speaker 1: internal combustion car, So they both share a platform there,
26:15
Speaker 1: which means it's not quite an EV from the ground up,
26:18
Speaker 1: and you can kind of tell when you hop inside it.
26:20
Speaker 1: It's got this huge drive line hump that shouldn't exist
26:23
Speaker 1: for an EV and all that kind of thing. But
26:26
Speaker 1: they do offer three different variants, starting off from fifty
26:29
Speaker 1: nine nine hundred and I testro the sixty four, nine
26:33
Speaker 1: hundred dollars one, which is the long range single motor.
26:36
Speaker 2: It's a real will drive. It's a punchy little thing.
26:39
Speaker 2: It's fun to drive. One hundred and seventy kilowatts of
26:41
Speaker 2: power three hundred and thirty meters of talk and it'll
26:43
Speaker 2: do zero to one hundred and about seven and a
26:45
Speaker 2: half seconds. The problem is how bad figure is the average?
26:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, the problem is more just the options. So
26:53
Speaker 1: basic features like adaptive cruise control, rear cross traffic alert,
26:59
Speaker 1: eruptional so you have to get them as part of
27:01
Speaker 1: this three thousand, four hundred dollars package. If you then
27:04
Speaker 1: want to have a few extra bells and whistles. There's
27:06
Speaker 1: another six thousand dollars package that adds like a fancy stereo,
27:10
Speaker 1: heated rear seats, and proof. Yeah, it's a lot of money,
27:14
Speaker 1: and with this stuff, I just really don't understand why
27:17
Speaker 1: you come in with a low entry price and then
27:19
Speaker 1: have these expensive packages that you have to tick to
27:21
Speaker 1: actually get access to a car.
27:23
Speaker 2: Generally, when I've stepped into an EV, like whether it
27:26
Speaker 2: be the cheap one or the top of the range,
27:30
Speaker 2: you almost just automatically want to shell out for top
27:32
Speaker 2: of the range, you know what I mean. It feels
27:35
Speaker 2: like it should feel like everything is just put together
27:38
Speaker 2: the way they wanted it to, rather than go let's
27:41
Speaker 2: cut back and cut back and put like the basic
27:43
Speaker 2: sort of features which you'll probably get in a basic
27:46
Speaker 2: combustion car. You know it Just I feel like at
27:49
Speaker 2: this point, if you're going to go for an EV,
27:51
Speaker 2: go for the best one you can afford. Well, look,
27:53
Speaker 2: this is the thing, this had some features that you
27:55
Speaker 2: would like.
27:56
Speaker 1: So as part of a six thousand dollars plus pack
27:58
Speaker 1: that ours had, it had the vegan postry. So I
28:01
Speaker 1: know that you you're quite a proponent of that.
28:04
Speaker 2: I've been saying no to your leather clad river's shoes
28:08
Speaker 2: for a long time. Do you know how the cows
28:12
Speaker 2: that died for your Swede river shoes are probably crying
28:16
Speaker 2: in their graves? Well, I probably ate them before I
28:20
Speaker 2: wore them as well. We probably cooked them on your
28:21
Speaker 2: bloody electric barbie. And then that's it. The slip the
28:25
Speaker 2: slippers on. Now.
28:26
Speaker 1: I will point out as well that inside the cabin
28:29
Speaker 1: they've gone a bit of a unique approach with the
28:31
Speaker 1: infotainment system.
28:32
Speaker 2: Eleven point two inch, so really nice and easy to use.
28:34
Speaker 2: But it runs on what they call Android.
28:36
Speaker 1: Automotive, which is basically a Google based infotainment system. So
28:43
Speaker 1: it has Google Maps and all that sort of stuff.
28:44
Speaker 1: You can add apps from the Google Play Store. It's
28:47
Speaker 1: quite an intuitive system, very easy to use, and I
28:49
Speaker 1: thought it was a really cool feature that comes with this.
28:51
Speaker 2: So they are working on a.
28:53
Speaker 1: Full EV platform that will move them on to that
28:56
Speaker 1: sort of next era of full EV's, so I'm keen
28:59
Speaker 1: to see what that's like. They also do the Pollstar one,
29:01
Speaker 1: which is like a sports car. It's like a hybrid
29:03
Speaker 1: type thing that is that is pretty cool as well.
29:07
Speaker 1: So yeah, look, I don't know I think that it's
29:10
Speaker 1: an interesting brand, interesting to watch because they're made in China.
29:13
Speaker 1: They they have less stock issues like Tesla, but as
29:17
Speaker 1: you can see, I mean on their website, they're already
29:19
Speaker 1: having issues getting actual stock.
29:21
Speaker 2: They are properly crashed. Yeah. Yeah, I quite like the interior.
29:24
Speaker 2: The interior looks really smart, really really forward thinking. Generally,
29:28
Speaker 2: there's a few it's weird. We own a XC forty
29:31
Speaker 2: at home, and it shares a lot of little bits
29:33
Speaker 2: and pieces, yes, from the door handles to the conditioning
29:37
Speaker 2: outlets and even the even the screen kind of looks
29:41
Speaker 2: like it's possibly the same sort of part as well. Yeah. Look,
29:44
Speaker 2: I think generally like it's a smart, tidy looking car. Yeah,
29:48
Speaker 2: good to drive as well. The ride's great.
29:51
Speaker 1: It sort of does all the EV stuff pretty well.
29:53
Speaker 1: So yeah, look it's nice. So yeah, would you buy
29:57
Speaker 1: it over a Model three? Model three is more efficient.
30:00
Speaker 2: Because it's lighter.
30:01
Speaker 1: This ways two thousand kilos in the midspec, which is
30:04
Speaker 1: pretty heavy. So yeah, look, I think that it's it's nice,
30:08
Speaker 1: but there are some things that they can improve, and
30:10
Speaker 1: I think that's stuff that they're working on at the moment.
30:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if you were comparing this to
30:15
Speaker 2: a Model three. Go the Model three because you've got
30:17
Speaker 2: the Tesla network, the Tesla super Network, supercharger network. Right,
30:23
Speaker 2: it makes a hell of a lot of sense, just
30:25
Speaker 2: with the fact that you can't even you can't even
30:28
Speaker 2: book a test drive. You can't see this car physically.
30:30
Speaker 2: You can't even see this car online. I guess one's
30:33
Speaker 2: a shortlist for now, right, Yeah, for the moment.
30:35
Speaker 1: If you can fight one to test drive, give it
30:37
Speaker 1: a shot. Or if you can find out how to
30:39
Speaker 1: order one, give that a shot as well. But yeah,
30:42
Speaker 1: it just seems odd to me just having a look
30:44
Speaker 1: at their website now, I'm just seeing on a hold on,
30:46
Speaker 1: they have booked your test drive.
30:48
Speaker 2: Let me just see do with that.
30:50
Speaker 1: Let me see what happens. So okay, and then select
30:55
Speaker 1: a date and time. Let's go fifth of May. Yes,
30:58
Speaker 1: I can do that.
31:00
Speaker 2: When I type in Gordy, it says no, you're not
31:02
Speaker 2: allowed to do that, right. Let me just read the
31:03
Speaker 2: email like, thank you, thank you, Gordon, thank you Paul.
31:09
Speaker 2: This has tended. And if you've just joined the program,
31:12
Speaker 2: it's the Gordon and Paul talking or a bild program.
31:15
Speaker 2: Oh that dickhead Daniel who doesn't like my sense of humor.
31:18
Speaker 2: Maybe he'd like the Gordon and Paul program. I hope
31:21
Speaker 2: you're listening, Daniel. I still remember you. I'm reading my
31:24
Speaker 2: email I tried to organize after getting the test drive
31:26
Speaker 2: and all that. Thank you for showing interest in the
31:28
Speaker 2: Polster to test drive. Hello Gordon, thank you for requesting
31:32
Speaker 2: to test drive Polster two. There are currently no test
31:35
Speaker 2: drive events available, but we are working on it and
31:38
Speaker 2: we'll get in touch as soon as new dates are revealed.
31:41
Speaker 2: Even did you click on the thing? Did it give
31:43
Speaker 2: you a time to book it? No, didn't even give
31:46
Speaker 2: me that. Did you try Sydney or Melbourne? Probably Melbourne's
31:50
Speaker 2: giving me date this confirm my subscription. Whatever, it's giving
31:53
Speaker 2: me dates and times for an hour test drive? Okay,
31:55
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32:00
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32:04
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32:09
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32:24
Speaker 2: some fun stuff here. Assume Australia could allow any car,
32:28
Speaker 2: So basically assume that Australia could let in a car
32:32
Speaker 2: from the global market. Yes, say the Ford Bronco Yes,
32:36
Speaker 2: which I think is now Is that actually coming out? No,
32:38
Speaker 2: it's definitely not. So assume we could allow any car
32:42
Speaker 2: in from the global market. What would you let in
32:45
Speaker 2: the Ford Bronco raptor Oh pretty much?
32:48
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I agree with you on that. Actually,
32:50
Speaker 1: that would be so cool to have here. They're bringing
32:52
Speaker 1: the f one fifty, so the've answered that one. But yeah,
32:54
Speaker 1: I think Ford Bronco would be amazing to have here.
32:56
Speaker 1: That would be sweet. And the Rivian.
32:59
Speaker 2: It's weird that if one fifty is coming in because
33:01
Speaker 2: we talked about this and you know how much I
33:02
Speaker 2: love those cars, and it was just going to be
33:05
Speaker 2: an absolute, not definite no go. But the fact that
33:08
Speaker 2: the fact that they're making it right hand drive and
33:11
Speaker 2: they're putting it through all that sort of stuff, to me,
33:13
Speaker 2: it feels like it shouldn't be too hard to do
33:15
Speaker 2: that with the Bronco as well.
33:16
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it shares a platform with the Ranger, so it
33:18
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. I think they're doing a sucket and
33:20
Speaker 1: C with the F one fifty if that works.
33:23
Speaker 2: Sorry or what what is that? A sucking in C?
33:27
Speaker 2: You tell me?
33:28
Speaker 1: But yeah, when if the F one fifty works, which
33:30
Speaker 1: it will, I think they'll do the Bronco next.
33:32
Speaker 2: Definitely sucond and C. Sorry, I don't know what you've
33:39
Speaker 2: got up to on Saturday night. I guess it's a
33:41
Speaker 2: second and C sucket while it's soft. What okay, real quick.
33:45
Speaker 2: This is a great question and I want to spend
33:47
Speaker 2: heaps of time on it, but we don't have time
33:49
Speaker 2: build a car. Basic premise of this is, oh, this
33:52
Speaker 2: is basically something we would have done when we were
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Speaker 2: bloody twelve, right, Not a sacond in C. It's a
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Speaker 2: literally build your own car so you he says, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to have five liters V eight from a Mustang
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Speaker 2: in the body of a Zuzuki Jymney and the tech
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Speaker 2: of a Model three. Wow, okay, that'd be interesting. Wouldn't
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Speaker 2: be slow anymore? No, they wouldn't be a Jymney.
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Speaker 1: I'd love to see a Model three with an air
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Speaker 1: less three engine in.
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Speaker 2: It really just forget yours? Why not? Yeah, I don't know, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's that's a really hard one. That's
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Speaker 2: a good one. Can tell you what. Let's think about this, okay,
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Speaker 2: and let's come back with our ideas next episode. But
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Speaker 2: Dom has a good one, hits with a great one.
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Speaker 2: Basically build a dream car from bits and pieces. I
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Speaker 2: like it. Well, if you like this program, the Gordon
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Speaker 2: got out of his car and he just before he
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Speaker 2: took his shades off, he said he hold my coffee,
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