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- 0:00Hello everybody. This is Deia Avery of
- 0:02the Demia Avery Show. Thank you so much
- 0:04for joining in on today's podcast. Now
- 0:07listen, if you are older, if you are 35
- 0:10years old or older and you have dreams
- 0:14to be in the entertainment industry or
- 0:16you're already in the entertainment
- 0:18industry and you're finding, you know,
- 0:20finding it a little harder because
- 0:22you're of an older age, make sure you
- 0:25stick around to this podcast because the
- 0:27industry will make you feel like you
- 0:31have missed your moment or it would make
- 0:33you feel like there's some type of
- 0:35imaginary deadline on your dreams. And
- 0:37we all know that that is a big fat lie.
- 0:40So, make sure you stick around. And
- 0:42also, I wanted to make sure that you
- 0:45understand that being older has some
- 0:47benefits. Some of the best stories are
- 0:49being told when you're older, the best
- 0:51moments, um, you have more emotional
- 0:55experience to capture anything in your
- 0:57artistry. So, again, make sure you stick
- 1:00around and join me. Let's have some
- 1:02grown folks talk today. All right.
- 1:04[music]
- 1:06action. Let's shine tonight. Big dreams,
- 1:09big names, and [music]
- 1:12the V's right. We'll talk passion,
- 1:15purpose, power, and goals.
- 1:18[music]
- 1:19Stories you ain't never been told.
- 1:23[music]
- 1:26It's a
- 1:29show.
- 1:33>> [music]
- 1:37>> All right, guys. Thank you so much for
- 1:39sticking around. We got a lot to cover
- 1:41today. Um, if you haven't checked out my
- 1:43interview with Coffee Brown, remember
- 1:46the R&B group after the party. Make sure
- 1:50you go back and you check that out. Like
- 1:52and share, do all of that stuff. So, I
- 1:55wanted to do something different a
- 1:57little today. We're going to have some
- 1:58more interviews either later on in the
- 2:00week or next week. But today, I want to
- 2:03talk about something that's near and
- 2:05dear to my heart. Now, many of you know
- 2:08that I am not 20 years old. I am not 30
- 2:12years old. I am not 40 years old. I'm in
- 2:15my 50s going into my 60s. And I am still
- 2:18climbing. I'm still motivated to to, you
- 2:22know, capture my dreams and go after my
- 2:24dreams. And I want to make sure that you
- 2:26know that you can do the same thing.
- 2:28Yes, it gets hard. Yes, it's it's a
- 2:30little different now. Responsibilities
- 2:32are different, but it's not impossible.
- 2:35So, I just want to share some things
- 2:36that I hope that would help you continue
- 2:39on with your dreams, especially maybe
- 2:41you just started. Maybe you're just
- 2:44wanting to start your music career or
- 2:46your acting career or whatever career.
- 2:48Cuz this could also be for It doesn't
- 2:51have to necessarily be for people in the
- 2:52entertainment industry. This could be
- 2:54for someone just wanting to start a new
- 2:56career in general and maybe some of
- 2:58these um tips or you know can help you.
- 3:02So I'm going to have to read these
- 3:04things because because if I don't we'll
- 3:07be talking to next Tuesday. So pardon me
- 3:10for looking down. So the first thing
- 3:14that I want to make sure that you
- 3:16understand that you are not late. You're
- 3:18not too late. You're just seasoned right
- 3:20now. You know, you've lived and you've
- 3:23loved and you've healed, you've had
- 3:26heartbreak, just you have so much
- 3:29experience. So
- 3:31all of that
- 3:33[music]
- 3:34life experience shows up in your
- 3:36artistry. So things that you knew when
- 3:39you were 20 are not the same things that
- 3:41you know now. So you can come from a
- 3:43different place when you're acting or
- 3:46when you um when you're songwriting or
- 3:50even when you're performing, if you if
- 3:52you live those moments, oh baby, you're
- 3:56going to be fantastic, you know, and
- 3:59stop thinking about age all the time.
- 4:01Stop. And I know it is hard because I
- 4:04remember there were times when
- 4:07in my 30s [music] I was still wanting to
- 4:10be in the entertainment industry and I
- 4:11had been trying for a very long time.
- 4:14And
- 4:16I had people say, you know, even though
- 4:18I looked good, let me tell you, I still
- 4:21looked good. But I had people say, uh,
- 4:24h, you know, you're getting up there in
- 4:26age. Maybe you should think about this.
- 4:28or
- 4:30um oh you're fantastic your voice cuz I
- 4:33should sing your voice is amazing but
- 4:35you know you're just a little you're
- 4:37you're old now [laughter]
- 4:39you're old now but you know what we have
- 4:41so many choices now and we're going to
- 4:44get into that [music] but okay just
- 4:48remember that all of that all of those
- 4:50things they show up in your artistry
- 4:52[music] and um
- 4:55remember if you're singing audiences can
- 4:57feel real life in a song. They can hear
- 5:00when something is honest. So, yeah, it's
- 5:03cool to get up there and and and sing
- 5:06something that you don't know nothing
- 5:07about or or just singing something
- 5:10that's of this generation, but it it's
- 5:13hard to do that and hard to relate to
- 5:15people. I I sometimes I have I don't
- 5:18know. Tell me how you guys feel about
- 5:19this. I might see an artist that I've
- 5:21loved forever and I love their music and
- 5:24I know sometimes they have to
- 5:28conform like they have to sing something
- 5:31that's kind of up to date and I get it
- 5:32just a little bit but fans you have
- 5:35forever and now you have the we we have
- 5:40uh social media now we have the internet
- 5:43now things that we didn't have back in
- 5:45the day that you don't have to rely on a
- 5:50record label or or things like that to
- 5:53be success successful even more so
- 5:58um to be successful because there are
- 6:00other ways to do it. It's just the way
- 6:02you you think about it. And um just
- 6:05remember your talent doesn't expire.
- 6:07[music]
- 6:08You didn't miss your time. You just
- 6:09survive your training. Cuz sometimes we
- 6:12just been getting prepared. There are
- 6:14people that have been performing for
- 6:17years and they don't get their role
- 6:18until later on in life, you know. So,
- 6:21and then there are people back in the
- 6:23day how they used to do. People used to
- 6:25lie about their age. Like they've been
- 6:27out there literally grinding for years
- 6:31and years and you never knew anything
- 6:33about them and then all of a sudden they
- 6:35come out and they used to lie about her
- 6:37age. if they were really 30 something
- 6:40then it you know they were they would
- 6:43say that they were 20some so that people
- 6:45would buy their
- 6:47uh [music] their uh product but now we
- 6:50don't necessarily have to do that. We
- 6:52can create our own audiences now because
- 6:54we don't necessarily have to use record
- 6:56labels anymore and the same way in a way
- 6:59that you can do for acting. But let's
- 7:02just let's just get into this. Okay.
- 7:05[clears throat]
- 7:06So the first thing is that
- 7:10one of the things you want to remember
- 7:12is that now you understand the business
- 7:15now. You didn't you were green at first
- 7:18and you see how the industry is now. So
- 7:22now when you were younger, you just
- 7:24wanted somebody to sign you. [music]
- 7:26You know, you didn't care. You you
- 7:28didn't read the paperwork. You don't ask
- 7:30questions. You just signed on a dotted
- 7:32line. But at this age, honestly, would
- 7:34you do that?
- 7:36Probably not. Probably not. You you
- 7:39you'll it's all about you be looking at
- 7:42those contracts and it's all about
- 7:43ownership and publishing and branding.
- 7:46You have a different outlook on things
- 7:48because you have a different way of of
- 7:51of thinking. You have responsibilities
- 7:54now. So a lot of times you don't make
- 7:57those same mistakes and you don't
- 8:00>> [music]
- 8:00>> um buckle under pressure just because
- 8:03you want to be a star. You think about
- 8:04things a little different. So remember
- 8:06that that actually now is probably a
- 8:10good time for you to go after those
- 8:12dreams. So don't think of it negative
- 8:14negatively as if you missed something
- 8:17because now hey but at 42 here it is at
- 8:2122 you want a deal. At 42, you want
- 8:23control. Get it? So, age bias is real,
- 8:28but money is grown. Money is grown. So,
- 8:31this is another thing. Let's be honest.
- 8:34Age bias is real. People will [music]
- 8:37put you in a category because you're
- 8:39older. But labels chase youth. That's
- 8:44the business. But fans chase connection.
- 8:49So you can be older and if you have
- 8:53those loyal fans, you have these rock
- 8:55bands [music]
- 8:56that have these loyal fans and they're
- 8:59making money and [music] they're making
- 9:02making hand over fist of, you know,
- 9:04money because they have that connection
- 9:06with their fans. So just remember that.
- 9:08And grown people spend money. I know
- 9:11people say, "Yeah, they don't buy the
- 9:12records, but it's a different age and
- 9:14time." And then just if you think about
- 9:16it differently,
- 9:19um the grown people are the ones that's
- 9:21giving the kids the money most of the
- 9:23time. Most of the time. Um but we also
- 9:27spend things of value. So if we are
- 9:30loyal to you, we are going to spend our
- 9:33money helping promote you. That's just
- 9:36how that goes. So don't confuse what the
- 9:38industry markets with what actually
- 9:41sells. Get it? Okay. So the next thing
- 9:45is
- 9:47your why. Your why by now, you know,
- 9:50when you were in your early ages, your
- 9:53why is probably different than it is
- 9:56now. So once you remember your why, why
- 10:00is deeper now. At this stage, you're not
- 10:03just chasing fame.
- 10:05You're chasing legacy,
- 10:08healing, [music] proving something to
- 10:10yourself. If you have children, your
- 10:13kids are watching, you're showing them
- 10:15what it looks like to not quit on
- 10:18yourself. So, your why is a a lot
- 10:21different. So, if you think of it that
- 10:23way, this is the best time. This is the
- 10:26best time. You didn't miss nothing.
- 10:29Okay. So, the next thing is fear versus
- 10:31confidence. Now, [music] yes, the fear
- 10:34is different now. Um,
- 10:37you fear starting over, you fear wasting
- 10:40time, but you also have thicker skin
- 10:43now. So, you you don't fear too much cuz
- 10:46you've already been through a lot.
- 10:47[laughter]
- 10:48You've already been through a lot.
- 10:50You're less desperate than you were
- 10:52because you know, you know, okay, if I
- 10:55don't like what this person is saying to
- 10:57me, I can go over to this person. You
- 11:00don't you don't have the same type of
- 11:02urgency anymore. And that confidence
- 11:05will show up in your artistry. You're
- 11:07like, "Okay, I know I got this and I
- 11:09know I have options and I know I can do
- 11:12this." You know, I mean, of course, you
- 11:15have things to help you, but you don't
- 11:17have it's it's just not the same. It's
- 11:19just not the same. So, your confidence
- 11:22is everything. Now, social media, this
- 11:25is the next thing. Social media changed
- 11:27everything. Here's the beautiful part.
- 11:30You don't need permission anymore.
- 11:33You don't need anybody's permission
- 11:35anymore.
- 11:37There are no real gatekeepers anymore.
- 11:39Like I was saying, if we relate this to
- 11:41music, yeah, we have record labels that
- 11:43control every single thing that you do
- 11:46to say it and whatever. Now, you don't
- 11:48have that. You can do and say what you
- 11:50want. You can perform what you want. You
- 11:54don't have to to to be like so and so.
- 11:57You don't have to look like her. You
- 11:59don't have to look like him. You don't
- 12:01have to be of something that you're not.
- 12:04You don't have to talk about things that
- 12:05you don't want to talk about because now
- 12:08social media has made it so that you can
- 12:10do and be what whoever you want to be.
- 12:13So remember that this it is advantages
- 12:17of this day and age that you didn't have
- 12:19back then. So understand that you can
- 12:22build your own audience. You don't
- 12:24necessarily you can still make a lot of
- 12:25money. You can make money through social
- 12:28media like YouTube, Tik Tok, Instagram,
- 12:31whatever else is out there and you can
- 12:35go live. You can have tours, all of
- 12:38that. You don't need permission anymore.
- 12:42I I certainly wish social media [music]
- 12:44was around when I was really focused
- 12:48[music] on my career in my early 20s.
- 12:52Um, you can own your own land. So, you
- 12:55don't need to be chosen anymore. You're
- 12:58the choice. So, just remember that. All
- 13:02right. Redefine making it. Let's talk
- 13:05about success because making it doesn't
- 13:08only mean Grammys and Billboards. And
- 13:10that
- 13:12that was one of the things that used to
- 13:14hold me up because I'm like, I got to,
- 13:16you know, I got to get this Grammy. That
- 13:18was the that was the the biggest thing,
- 13:20the biggest award. But now you don't you
- 13:22don't necessarily need that because
- 13:27it might mean now [music]
- 13:30making it might mean now consistent
- 13:33income from your music or artistry,
- 13:36regional touring, placement, teaching,
- 13:38owning your own masters. You don't
- 13:42think of making it differently now. I
- 13:46used to think, you know, because I
- 13:48wasn't out there on all these stages.
- 13:50Who says I got to be on the biggest
- 13:52stage in the world to make a living to
- 13:55have my fans to to do all the things
- 13:58that I dream dreamed of? I just You
- 14:00don't have to do that anymore. Making it
- 14:02can be whatever it is that you want to
- 14:05be and feel good about it and be at
- 14:07peace with it. [music]
- 14:08And that's another thing is peace,
- 14:11freedom. That's success, too. If you're
- 14:14doing something that you absolutely love
- 14:17and you get happiness and peace from it,
- 14:19that is actually success.
- 14:22And again, that's that's a learning
- 14:23lesson for me cuz I I was all about the
- 14:26award or the rich, you know, I had to be
- 14:31out there with the rich and famous. And
- 14:33it's not necessarily that. Create your
- 14:36own thing, man.
- 14:38All right. [music]
- 14:39So the other thing is now your network
- 14:42is stronger than it was back then. I
- 14:45mean, you were so busy trying to get a
- 14:47hold of so and so the the of of
- 14:51I don't know of Mottown of you know
- 14:55Arista or you're trying so hard to get
- 14:58into this and to that and and this but
- 15:01now by now you have
- 15:04[snorts] combined not combined you've
- 15:06already built some sort of connections
- 15:10of your your own you just have to
- 15:12utilize them. So everybody knows
- 15:14somebody else. Just remember that. And
- 15:16now for sure you know a lot more people
- 15:19than you did back then. So
- 15:22um you have old contacts, real
- 15:25connections. You have a business mindset
- 15:28which is important. People who trust you
- 15:31trust you. That matters. It really does.
- 15:34[laughter] So the next thing is protect
- 15:37your energy. Protect your energy. You
- 15:40know, when um younger when you have
- 15:44people around you that [clears throat]
- 15:47may have not always been happy for you
- 15:50or you have people around you that suck
- 15:54suck your energy for whatever the reason
- 15:56is. Just please hear me on this part.
- 15:59Now, you can um
- 16:03you can't have like no dream killers
- 16:05around you. [music] You're smart enough
- 16:07to recognize a person that's bringing
- 16:09you down. You're smart enough to
- 16:11recognize anything that's bringing you
- 16:13down and away from from what you're
- 16:16focused on. Your so your circle actually
- 16:20your real circle, I'm not talking about
- 16:22your fans or your Facebook friends, but
- 16:25your real circle should be small and
- 16:27solid because those are the people that
- 16:30you're going to depend on and it's okay.
- 16:33Okay. So, [music] the world needs grown
- 16:38voices. Yeah, it's great to to to dance
- 16:42and and all of that, too. But there are
- 16:44people out there that want to hear what
- 16:48a person that has life experience has to
- 16:51say. Just remember, life after 35, 40,
- 16:57you you could be in a happy marriage or
- 16:59whatever. And that's something to to to,
- 17:02you know, to talk about. But there's
- 17:04also divorce. There's also grief.
- 17:06There's also starting over. There's also
- 17:08healing. [music] Young artists can't
- 17:10tell a lot of those stories cuz they're
- 17:13still just learning. You can. And your
- 17:15artistry artistry re, you know, connects
- 17:20with someone else. So you have people
- 17:22out there that want to feel connected to
- 17:25you. So that's why those old slow jams
- 17:28and stuff like that that you listen to,
- 17:30they still hidden cuz they connect with
- 17:33what you have been through or what
- 17:35you're going through. So
- 17:38you know, hey, use it. Use it. So if
- 17:41you're over 35 and you're still chasing,
- 17:44hear me when I say this. You're not
- 17:46delusional.
- 17:48You're disciplined. The dream didn't
- 17:50die. It matured.
- 17:54So, that's pretty much what I wanted to
- 17:57say to you guys. Dreams do not die. We
- 18:01sometimes just put them aside or or or
- 18:04push them down or things like that. If
- 18:07you want to go after that dream, if or
- 18:09if you just want to feel that that dream
- 18:13and stuff, you still can have it.
- 18:15There's no reason you can't have it. You
- 18:17just might need to shake you shape your
- 18:20your thoughts a little bit. Cool. All
- 18:22right. So, if this spoke to you, make
- 18:25sure you subscribe to the Demia Avery
- 18:27Show. We're going to have more moments
- 18:29like this. Um, but soon we're also going
- 18:32to have um Jar Avery of the Avery
- 18:34Agency, which is my partner along with
- 18:37my sister. Uh, along with my sister and
- 18:40she is my sister. Um, we're out of
- 18:44Atlanta, Georgia. And she has a lot to
- 18:47say if you're trying to become an
- 18:49actress or an actor. Um, [music] that is
- 18:53a show coming up for you. We're also
- 18:55going to have Blake Cameron James, which
- 18:59is the young man that plays I think it's
- 19:01Will Will Will Hansen Hansen from uh
- 19:05Welcome to Dair. Well, it Welcome to
- 19:07Dair. He's going to be coming on the
- 19:09show. He him and his mother and his
- 19:13father, they're going to be on the show,
- 19:14too. So, if you want your kids, if you
- 19:18have children that want to get into the
- 19:19entertainment industry or they'll just
- 19:23give you a lot of tips, things that they
- 19:24have been through, um, we'll talk to
- 19:27Blake, which is an amazing young man, so
- 19:30so talented, but got a great head on his
- 19:33shoulders. Make sure you st uh tune in.
- 19:36So, make sure you subscribe so you get
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- 19:42week unless something happens. I don't
- 19:44think it will, but it should be coming
- 19:45up next week. Make you make sure you
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- 19:50needs it. And I love you. Love you. Love
- 19:52you. And I talk to you later. Bye-bye.