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ARREST MADE: Mystery Surrounding Teen Girl Found Sex Attacked, Murdered at Boyfriend's Family Home · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: A 19-year-old girl works an overnight shift and she drives
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  Speaker 1: to her boyfriend's house in Winsboro, Texas to sleep. The boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Stogner, and his family, they all live there. They
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  Speaker 1: were not at home at the time. When they do
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  Speaker 1: get home around 2.30 in the afternoon, they find Brittany
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  Speaker 1: and seemingly still asleep in Jeff's bedroom, but she's not asleep.
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  Speaker 1: She's dead. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Fox Nation and
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  Speaker 1: Sirius XM 111. Is it possible 15 years later, a
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  Speaker 1: crack in the murder of teen girl Brittany McGlone? In
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  Speaker 1: order to resolve a case, you've got to figure out
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  Speaker 1: how the whole thing started. Winsboro, Texas, 2007.
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  Speaker 2: What would seem like an ordinary day for 19-year-old Brittany
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  Speaker 2: McClone suddenly wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: She was just beginning her life, looking forward to going
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  Speaker 3: to college.
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  Speaker 2: After working her night shift at this Lowe's distribution center,
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  Speaker 2: she headed to her boyfriend Jeff Stogner's house just on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of this fence in a small home
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  Speaker 2: by Lake Winsboro. Hours later, somewhere between 8 a.m. to
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  Speaker 2: 3 p.m., McClone was savagely murdered in Stogner's bed.
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  Speaker 1: She had been bludgeoned with a heavy, sharp object. She
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  Speaker 1: had been sexually assaulted. It was almost too much to
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  Speaker 1: take in. She had just recently... celebrated her birthday her
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  Speaker 1: mom tells me it was a little family party like
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  Speaker 1: most of us had growing up where mom makes a
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  Speaker 1: cake and we sing happy birthday that was her last
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  Speaker 1: birthday and what a beauty on the inside and out
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  Speaker 1: did you hear that she was working you know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of teens are at home on their xbox with
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  Speaker 1: a tv blaring in the background sitting on the sofa
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  Speaker 1: eating chips not her Not her. Why did this happen?
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  Speaker 1: With me, an all-star panel, but before I introduce to
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  Speaker 1: you our experts, I want to go to a very
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  Speaker 1: special guest joining me, Patricia Tice. This is Brittany McGlone's mother.
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  Speaker 2: Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Tice, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me and covering Brittany's story, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: That hurts my heart, even imagining what you've been through,
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  Speaker 1: saying thank you to me. There's absolutely no need.
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  Speaker 5: Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Tice, tell me when you first became worried that something
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  Speaker 1: was wrong with Brittany.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it was the afternoon of May 4th. Her boyfriend
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  Speaker 4: called me to ask me if Brittany was with me.
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  Speaker 4: And I was very alarmed. And I said, no, she's
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be with you. She had worked the overnight
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  Speaker 4: shift at a Lowe's distribution center, got off at 6.37,
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  Speaker 4: and it was the first time she ever went straight
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  Speaker 4: to the boyfriend's home instead of coming home, taking a shower, eating,
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  Speaker 4: and taking a nap.
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  Speaker 1: Let me understand something, Ms. Tice. Yes. So she gets
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  Speaker 1: off at 6.30 a.m. or p.m.? A.m. Oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 1: So she worked at night. That's hard. That's hard. That's
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  Speaker 1: hard on your body, but... She did.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So she gets off 630 a.m. OK.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. And like I said, it was the first time
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  Speaker 4: she had ever gone straight to the boyfriend's house. So
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  Speaker 4: when he called me asking if Brittany was with me,
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  Speaker 4: I was alarmed. And I said, no, she's supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be with you.
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  Speaker 1: And what time was that?
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  Speaker 4: That was afternoon, 3, 3.30 in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa. Okay. Yes. Between 6.30 and 3.30. Okay. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: And so I hung up on him and called Brittany's
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  Speaker 4: phone and it went straight to voicemail. And her phone
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  Speaker 4: was an appendage. She would have answered the phone. So
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  Speaker 4: I called the boyfriend back and said, she's not answering
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  Speaker 4: the phone. And he said, He said, she's here, she's sleeping,
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  Speaker 4: she's just sleeping hard. And then a little bit after that, 15,
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  Speaker 4: 20 minutes after that, two Wood County officers knocked on
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  Speaker 4: the door and they asked for Brenda or Debbie. And
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  Speaker 4: we told them there was nobody in our home by
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  Speaker 4: that name. And so they left. And just something didn't
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  Speaker 4: feel right.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, that's... Very disjoint.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So out of the blue that afternoon, May 4, cops
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  Speaker 1: show up at your door asking for Brenda or Debbie.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, I just had that mother's intuition. So
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  Speaker 4: I called the sheriff's office. The sheriff himself got on
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  Speaker 4: the phone and told me to stay put. He was
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  Speaker 4: sending the deputies back. So I knew for sure something
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  Speaker 4: was wrong. They took me into the house alone and
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  Speaker 4: verbatim they said, your daughter is deceased.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, dear Lord in heaven.
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  Speaker 4: They wouldn't give me any details, not even cause of death.
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  Speaker 4: And they left. I was there with my blind mom,
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  Speaker 4: my teenage son's. And we were in crisis.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. Your blind mom, your mother lived
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  Speaker 1: with you? Yes, we all lived together. How old was
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  Speaker 1: your mom at that time?
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  Speaker 4: Let's see. She was 62.
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  Speaker 1: And your dad also lived there?
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  Speaker 4: He did.
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  Speaker 1: He was.
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  Speaker 4: He was an on-the-road truck driver. He wasn't home when
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  Speaker 4: this happened.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And your son?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had two sons still living at home that
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  Speaker 4: were in high school.
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  Speaker 1: Ages?
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  Speaker 4: At that time, they were 15 and 17.
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  Speaker 1: And they had been home all night from 6.30 when
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  Speaker 1: she got off from Lowe's until they had been with
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  Speaker 1: you the entire time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, and they were in school. They went
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  Speaker 4: to school. It was a school. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And your father's whereabouts are not, I mean... Your dad's
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  Speaker 1: whereabouts are known because he was doing long-haul trucking, right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I want to say it was way up northeast.
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  Speaker 1: And what about Brittany's father?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know where he was at the time. I
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  Speaker 4: think when he was informed by telephone, by law enforcement,
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  Speaker 4: I want to say he and his wife were at
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  Speaker 4: a movie or on their way to a movie.
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  Speaker 1: Same town?
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  Speaker 4: No, a town about 23 miles away, Sulphur Springs. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And so his wife can account for his whereabouts the
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  Speaker 1: entire afternoon, right? Definitely.
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  Speaker 4: And he was working, too, so I'm sure his work can, too.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, joining me is Patricia Tice. This is Brittany McGlone's mother. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: can you imagine? You know something's not quite right. You
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  Speaker 1: keep calling your daughter. I just want to cross myself
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  Speaker 1: just saying it because I'm thinking of calling my son
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  Speaker 1: or daughter. And it goes straight to voicemail, which I hate.
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  Speaker 1: And She's not home from work. She's not where she's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be. Two deputies come to your door in
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  Speaker 1: the midst of this confusion and ask for two people
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  Speaker 1: that you've never heard of at your door. They leave.
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  Speaker 1: You call the sheriff and go, what's going on? They go,
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  Speaker 1: we're sending the deputies back to your place. I want
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  Speaker 1: to understand, Ms. Tice, more about Brittany. I want to
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  Speaker 1: hear about who Brittany is. Guys, take a listen to
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  Speaker 1: our friends at Crime Online.
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  Speaker 7: Brittany McGlone had taken a year off after graduating high
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  Speaker 7: school and was working two jobs to save money for college.
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  Speaker 7: She planned to attend Baylor University and study nursing. One
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  Speaker 7: of her jobs was at the Lowe's Distribution Center in
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  Speaker 7: Mount Vernon. On the morning of May 4th, she finished
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  Speaker 7: her overnight shift and drove to her boyfriend's house in
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  Speaker 7: Winsboro to sleep. His family also lived at that house.
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  Speaker 7: Her mother became concerned when she couldn't get through to
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  Speaker 7: Brittany on her cell phones. Brittany's sister, Hope, said Brittany's
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  Speaker 7: mother called so many times she filled up her voicemail.
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  Speaker 1: Just trying to take that in. You know, that's an
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  Speaker 1: important fact. A subtle but important fact, Ms. Tice, is
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  Speaker 1: that the boyfriend also lived with his family as well, correct?
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  Speaker 1: And they were home.
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  Speaker 4: The mother went to work. The brother and sister went
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  Speaker 4: to high school. The stepdad and the boyfriend went to
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  Speaker 4: Dallas to pick up a grandmother. From the airport.
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  Speaker 1: So while they lived there, they were not at home
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  Speaker 1: at the time your daughter was there.
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  Speaker 4: They left Brittany home alone. Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let me understand. Did the boyfriend have a job that
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  Speaker 1: he went to?
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  Speaker 4: No, he did not work.
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  Speaker 1: He did not work. And what was his age?
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  Speaker 4: I think he was 21.
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  Speaker 1: He was 21. And Brittany's age, what, just turned 19?
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  Speaker 4: Yes. She was about 19 and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, earlier you were hearing our friends say K-E-T-K. Now
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  Speaker 1: take a listen. to our friends at Fox 51. Brittany
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  Speaker 1: was on her way to her boyfriend's house. Several hours later,
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  Speaker 1: she never came home. Law enforcement found Brittany was tragically beaten,
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  Speaker 1: sexually assaulted, and murdered. She has another justice that she deserves.
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  Speaker 4: So that's really important to us.
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  Speaker 1: So we're hoping for Some answers, hopefully sooner than later.
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  Speaker 1: How can 15 years pass with no answers? Listen to
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  Speaker 1: our friend Sarah Allegra.
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  Speaker 2: Before that horrifying moment, Brittany left her night shift at
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  Speaker 2: this Lowe's distribution center and went to her boyfriend Jeff
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  Speaker 2: Stogner's house in a small home by Lake Winsboro.
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  Speaker 4: Her boyfriend called and asked if Brittany was with me, and... Immediately,
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  Speaker 4: I said, no, she's supposed to be with you. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it just didn't feel right.
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  Speaker 1: Between 8 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: To 5.30 p.m., Brittany was reportedly murdered in Stogner's bed.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm really grappling with these facts. Take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to more from our friends at KEGK. Her boyfriend called 911.
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  Speaker 2: Stogner returning home to an unrecognizable body and a horrifying
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  Speaker 2: crime scene.
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  Speaker 3: That could have been your daughter. Your sister, your cousin,
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  Speaker 3: you know, your friend. What happened to her could happen
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  Speaker 3: to anyone.
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  Speaker 2: That thought igniting urgency in the community, including recently elected
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  Speaker 2: Wood County Sheriff Kelly Cole.
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  Speaker 6: I actually worked here.
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  Speaker 8: I was a criminal investigator here at that time.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. We are talking about a
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  Speaker 1: 19-year-old girl, Brittany McGlone. Amy Naves is with me, true
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  Speaker 1: crime writer. You can find her at Dark Aberrations. Amy,
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  Speaker 1: let me understand the movements of the boyfriend that afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: And then Joe Scott Morgan, professor of forensics, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to come back straight to you. We need to get
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  Speaker 1: a TOD time of death so I can work that
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  Speaker 1: into the crime line. And if I can get that
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  Speaker 1: time of death even within, say, 45 minutes to an hour,
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  Speaker 1: I can start ruling people out. See what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: To Amy Naves, a Joining Me True Crime writer, you
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  Speaker 1: can find her at Dark Aberrations blog. Amy, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being with us. Can we just track from the beginning, Amy,
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  Speaker 1: what you know from the moment that she, Brittany, got
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  Speaker 1: off from her overnight shift at the Lowe's Distribution Center?
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  Speaker 9: We know that, obviously, Mrs. Tice couldn't get in touch
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  Speaker 9: with her daughter all day. It wasn't until 2.30 that
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  Speaker 9: afternoon that she finally was able to get in touch,
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  Speaker 9: that she finally, I guess, gave up on trying to
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  Speaker 9: call her daughter and called Stogner instead.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 9: You have a gap between when Brittany arrived that morning
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  Speaker 9: and 2.30 that afternoon. At the time Brittany's mother reached him,
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  Speaker 9: he said that they had been out to the airport
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  Speaker 9: picking up a relative and that they were just pulling
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  Speaker 9: into the driveway, that Brittany's car was still there. And
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  Speaker 9: then they went into the house and that's when they
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  Speaker 9: discovered Brittany's body. But the time of death is listed
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  Speaker 9: as somewhere between 8 a.m. and 3 p.m., which is
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  Speaker 9: a huge window.
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  Speaker 1: Not helpful at all. You just told me something I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know, Amy Naves. Patricia Tice, so the boyfriend says
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  Speaker 1: that when Brittany got there, He was already gone with
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  Speaker 1: his family to pick someone up at the airport?
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  Speaker 4: No, that's not my understanding.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what's your understanding?
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  Speaker 4: That the entire family was still there when Brittany got there.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the whole family's there. Amy Naves, the boyfriend's family,
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  Speaker 1: sees her come in.
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  Speaker 9: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: I assume this is what the family says. She goes
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  Speaker 1: into the bedroom because she's exhausted from an overnight shift.
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  Speaker 1: She lays down to go to sleep and then they
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  Speaker 1: all leave to go to the airport. Is that correct,
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  Speaker 1: Amy Naves?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, that's correct.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think that I misinterpreted something you said.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't say he left at 630 in the morning.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: I extrapolated that. So I understand what you're saying now.
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  Speaker 1: So she gets there 630-ish, 640 after her shift. She's exhausted,
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  Speaker 1: goes to sleep. The whole family sees her come in.
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  Speaker 1: go to bed, and then what time, Amy Naves, do
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  Speaker 1: they say that they left to go pick up someone
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  Speaker 1: at the airport?
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  Speaker 9: I'm assuming, and this may be incorrect, but I'm assuming
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  Speaker 9: that the fact that they say that she was murdered
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  Speaker 9: somewhere between 8 a.m. and 3 p.m., that 8 a.m.
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  Speaker 9: is the last time someone saw her alive.
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  Speaker 1: What do you know, too, Patricia Tice? This is Brittany's mother.
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  Speaker 1: Explain to me what happened between 6.30 and 8 a.m.,
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  Speaker 1: To your knowledge, Ms.
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  Speaker 4: Tice? As far as I know, the two kiddos that
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  Speaker 4: were in high school were getting ready to go to
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  Speaker 4: high school. Mom was getting ready to go to work,
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  Speaker 4: and the stepdad and the boyfriend were getting ready to
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  Speaker 4: go to Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: Who exactly went to Dallas to pick up? Who was
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  Speaker 1: it coming in town?
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  Speaker 4: It was a grandmother.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's confirmed, and I can prove that, correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So BF boyfriend and BF stepdad... leave to go to Dallas. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I understand that where this occurred in Wood County, I'm
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  Speaker 1: from a county as well, Bibb County, and it's not
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  Speaker 1: a city. It's out in a, when I grew up anyway, farmland.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand this area of Wood County is a Rural?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Densely forested? And I understand that the boyfriend's family home
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  Speaker 1: is on a dead-end road. It's not like it's a
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  Speaker 1: cut-through from one big exchange to another big exchange, two
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  Speaker 1: big streets, right?
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  Speaker 4: Exactly. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just getting all these facts in my mind. So
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend and boyfriend's stepdad leave to go to Dallas to
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  Speaker 1: pick up grandma. That's been confirmed. What time did they leave, Ms.
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  Speaker 4: Tice? Around 8 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: All right, they leave at 8 a.m., but here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Has the boyfriend's mom already left for work at that time? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: What time did she leave?
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  Speaker 4: A little bit before 8 to drop. She took the
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  Speaker 4: kids to school.
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  Speaker 1: Are you saying 7.30 or 5 till 8?
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  Speaker 4: Probably 7.30.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got a 30-minute window when mom and
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  Speaker 1: the two brothers leave.
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  Speaker 4: It was a brother and sister.
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  Speaker 1: Two siblings. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Got it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm Taking all this in, they're gone at 7.30.
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  Speaker 1: Boyfriend and stepdad leave at 8. Okay. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out, to Amy Naves, true crime writer and blogger,
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  Speaker 1: was there any forced entry into the home?
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  Speaker 9: I didn't find any indication from any of the reports
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  Speaker 9: that there was any forced entry.
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  Speaker 1: Is it true that the home is no longer there?
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  Speaker 9: Has been torn down.
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 9: That I do not know the answer to.
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  Speaker 1: What do you know, Patricia Tice, Brittany's mom? Why was
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  Speaker 1: the home destroyed?
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea either. I was just told when
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  Speaker 4: it was going to be destroyed and I was assured
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  Speaker 4: that they had retrieved any evidence that might be left
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  Speaker 4: in the home. This was from the Texas Attorney General's office.
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  Speaker 1: Has something been built on top of it?
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  Speaker 4: There is another home on top of it, yes. All right.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have any forced entry. Is that right? Between
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  Speaker 1: Patricia and Amy?
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  Speaker 4: No forced entry.
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  Speaker 1: Did they routinely lock the door when they left?
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  Speaker 4: Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Was DNA taken from Brittany's body? Does anyone know the
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  Speaker 1: answer to that?
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  Speaker 4: I was told that there was some unknown DNA found
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  Speaker 4: on her leg, but that it's not conclusive. And I
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  Speaker 4: was also Whoever killed Brittany, it was like they went
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  Speaker 4: in there wrapped in saran wrap. That's how little evidence
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  Speaker 4: was there.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me right now, in addition to Dr. Jeff Gardier,
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  Speaker 1: clinical psychologist, professor, behavioral medicine, Truro College, and author, Joseph
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  Speaker 1: Scott Morgan joining me, Jacksonville State University professor of forensics,
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  Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and star
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  Speaker 1: of a brand new series, Body Bags with Joseph Scott
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  Speaker 1: Morgan on iHeart. Joseph Scott, it's the timeline. It's the timeline.
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  Speaker 1: one more quick question. What time, Patricia or Amy, did
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  Speaker 1: the family get back with Grandma?
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  Speaker 4: Three o'clock.
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  Speaker 9: Right around, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. Three o'clock. Joe Scott Morgan, weigh in.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, they've painted this with very broad strokes. We're talking
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  Speaker 10: about a seven-hour period where they're saying anywhere between 8 a.m.
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  Speaker 10: and 3 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I could tell you that, and I'm
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: just a JD, because the boyfriend and the stepdad, by
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the way, boyfriend has passed a polygraph. Before we jump
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: on that bandwagon and veer off the road, boyfriend has
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: passed a poly. Is it totally conclusive? No. Is it
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: helpful to know? Yes, it is. Joe Scott, really? Really?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: The ME, no offense, death investigator, is telling me something
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I already know. I mean, the family leaves at 8 a.m.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: She's alive. They get back at 3. She's been brutally
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: sex assaulted and murdered. So, of course, it happened between
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: 8 and 3. I was expecting a little bit more,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Joe Scott. Why even have a death investigator?
• 19:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I still don't buy the fact that, first off,
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: Texas doesn't have an ME system. They have Justices of
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: the Peace.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're talking gibberish. What?
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: They don't have MEs. They call them MEs in their
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: larger towns, but just suffice it to say the Justices
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: of the Peace in the counties in Texas act as
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: de facto corners. I've had dealings with these kinds of cases.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Are they doctors?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: No.
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: Oh, they're like magistrates.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: That's like, no offense, Jackie. That's like me calling in
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Jackie to do my heart surgery or my brain surgery.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: No offense, because... You can do a lot of stuff, Jackie,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: but that's not one of them. I mean, why would
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you have a magistrate, a judge who may or may
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: not be a lawyer? You don't even have to be
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: a lawyer.
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: They act as a de facto coroner. And I'd be
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: very curious to know if that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Person even came. Why do you keep saying Latin phrases?
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: They act as a de facto coroner. They work in
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: place of a coroner. They don't have traditional coroners. So
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: my question is, and this is to the heart of
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: the matter. Did this individual from that representative jurisdiction actually
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: physically show up and do a post-mortem assessment relative to
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: post-mortem interval? And that is the PMI is the time
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: since death.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: And there's several ways we measure that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Let me just slow this down, Mustang Sally.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: PMI.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Post-mortem interval. Whoa, whoa.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Wait, wait.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Postmortem means after death interval, period of time. I think
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you're talking about the time that has passed since Brittany
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: was murdered, right?
• 21:12
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at Crime Online.
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: According to Wood County Sheriff's Office in Quitman, Texas, detectives
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: believe Brittany was killed between the hours of 8 a.m.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: And 3 p.m.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: She had been sexually assaulted and beaten with an unknown object.
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: An autopsy ruled that she had died from massive head trauma.
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: Many people were questioned by detectives, including Brittany's boyfriend and
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: his family. But no suspects have been publicly named. And
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: the sheriff adds, Nobody has been officially ruled out either.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, I guess that means they're talking about the boyfriend
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and the family. Nobody's been officially ruled out either. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: do know the boyfriend has passed a poly. Amy Names,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: is that true, the boyfriend passed a poly?
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: The boyfriend and I believe several members of the family
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: have all passed polygraph.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Because that's who you look at first, not just the BF, boyfriend.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But you look at the stepfather, too. You look at everybody.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to imagine, though. I mean,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: if you were to... go down the line, the avenue
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that the boyfriend did it or the stepfather, boyfriend, stepfather
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: did it, you would have to believe that either the
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: mother didn't hear a thing before she left, the siblings
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: heard nothing, there's that 30-minute window between 7.30 and 8
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: where mom took the others to school before stepfather and B.F.,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: left for airport, you'd have to then believe that one
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of them committed the crime and the other heard nothing
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: or colluded. That complicates trying to blame them. I mean,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: is it possible?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: But is that probable? Is it probable that one heard
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: nothing when a woman's being horribly bludgeoned and sex assaulted
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: or colluded in it? We do have the fly in
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the ointment, let me just say, that she may have
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: been asleep. So she may not have been able to
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: scream out. But let's explore that in a moment. I'm
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: off on a tangent. Back to you, Joe Scott Morgan.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: That's the best you can give me. That's the best
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: they can do. Eight to three. I mean, I've got
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the boyfriend's mother telling me that. Why do I need
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a death investigator?
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, no kidding. And keep in mind, per the report,
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: just like was just stated, police said that. That didn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: come from the M.E., That did not come from the ME. That,
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: you know, the ME was probably not.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: The police said what?
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: Well, they said that they'd been dead, that she had been,
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: they gave the assessment. They talked about in the report,
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: they talked about the trauma that this poor child sustained.
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: And then they talked about this window of time.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I've got to go to Dr. Jeff Gardier
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: on this just a moment. Dr. Jeff, if I may
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: call you that. Long time friend, board certified clinical psychologist,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: professor of behavioral medicine, Truro College. at drjeffgardier.com, author of
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: The Causes of Autism. And I believe you've written several
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: other books, have you not?
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: Yes, yes, I have, around family issues.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Okay. Dr.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Jeff, I assume you've seen Barney Fife and Andy Mayberry. Yes,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I have. Okay. How is it that people think they
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: know everything? For instance, I just said, I'm just a JD.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not an MD. I don't know everything. The intricacies
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of determining COD, cause of death, or time of death.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Why would a magistrate or a cop? Think they know
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: everything and not bring in an expert.
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: I think what you're looking at here is a situation of.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Don't say small town mentality. Don't go there.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 25:02
  Speaker 11: Well, then you just, you know, torpedoed what I was
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: going to say.
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: So let me go.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Well, go ahead and say it and then I can
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: fight with you. Go ahead. Okay.
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 25:10
  Speaker 11: Well, it's a situation of a very small community, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: you have individuals perhaps, you know, in law enforcement or
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: other official capacities who've done things in a certain way
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: for a certain time. You know, Nancy, we talk about
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: standards of care. In a large, large city, there are
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: many more options and many more exposures with regard to
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: different types of expertise in hospitals. Here, this is a
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: situation of something where, you know, we're talking about a
• 25:45
  Speaker 11: smaller scope of expertise, and therefore individuals can be very
• 25:50
  Speaker 11: confident that they're giving what the standard care or standard
• 25:54
  Speaker 11: expertise is. But in this case, we know that it
• 25:59
  Speaker 11: is not enough. A lot more should have been done,
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: can be done, hopefully will be done. And I believe
• 26:07
  Speaker 11: that there will be more information and evidence that can
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: be parsed out and examined.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm still trying to figure out why people think
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: they know everything. I mean, what I do know for
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: sure is that I don't know everything. It's the only
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: thing I really know. And it would be a cold A,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: an H-E-double-L, to Ms. Patricia Tice, this is Brittany's mother,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: that I would come upon a crime scene. And I've
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: been on many, many homicide scenes. and think I knew
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: it all. Sure, I know how to make measurements and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: take pictures and look for forensic evidence, but for instance,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: did they search the entire room and home with luminol
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to see if there had been a struggle in another room?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: How can there be a brutal sex attack and there's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: only DNA on her leg? Did the person that raped
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: her wear a condom? Did they wear plastic gloves? You
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: said something, or it was either Amy Naves from Dart
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Aberrations said something that it was commented the killer must
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: have come in hermetically sealed in plastic wrap. Was that you, Ms. Tice?
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: That was. That's what the attorney general investigator said to me. Explain.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: What else did the AG investigator say?
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Well, they said a whole lot, mostly. saying that the
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: investigation is in the purview of Wood County Sheriff's Department.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: But when I would call Wood County Sheriff's Department, they
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: would say, well, the attorney general has the case. You know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: a lot of passing the buck, not taking any accountability
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: or responsibility for Brittany's investigation.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Why would they do a teen girl's mother wrong? Like that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody screwed up the investigation at the get-go,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: man up and say it and try to start over
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: as best as you can. Listen to our friends at KETK.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: There are words now in my vocabulary that I just
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: can't believe that they're in there, you know? Bludgeoned or
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: sexual assault or.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: You know, even murder. But who's the culprit behind those
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: haunting words? Definitely made.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Everyone feel very unsafe.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Unanswered questions leaves behind an eerie reminder of a cold-hearted
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: killer at large.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I've got to go to Dr. Jeff Gardier on this
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: just a moment. Board-certified clinical psychologist. It's like cursing or
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: taking drugs or drinking. You may be apprehensive the first time,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: but then after that it gets really easy. If someone
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: has already committed a murder, which they have, how easy
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: will it be to do it again? To, for instance,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: cover up evidence, get rid of a witness. Agree, disagree, Dr. Jeff?
• 29:16
  Speaker 11: Absolutely. One of the psychological tenets we know is if
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: you are not discovered or you are not punished, then
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: you will continue. Just not being discovered or punished is
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: a positive reinforcement to continue in your aberrant behaviors.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Just got Morgan. Let's talk about the MO, the COD,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the MOD, cause of death. manner of death. What do
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you think?
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: First blush, it's up close, very personal, a lot of
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: anger involved. I think that goes without saying. And it
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: is almost like she was tracked to this location. That's
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: why right now, Right now, at this moment, Nancy, my
• 30:00
  Speaker 10: gut is not leaning toward the boyfriend's family. My gut
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: is leaning toward Lowe's Distribution Center. She just left this place.
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: It's about, I don't know, I mean, it looks like
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: it's within about 20 miles of where she died. Now,
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: keep in mind, it's in a separate county, and this
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: thing is vast, Nancy. This distribution center, I was looking
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: at a satellite image, and they actually created an exit
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: off of, specifically for this place. It's massive. It's a
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: 24-hour day operation. And when you see the scope of
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: this place, and it's almost like a straight shot, when
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: you leave out of that location, you go down to
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: Winsboro Lake, down to that location, and from there, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: she could be easily followed. She's in that environment. People
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: know that she's leaving work. And God only knows who
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: was working in that location. We're talking about unidentified people
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: DNA found on this baby's leg out there at this scene.
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: And I'm thinking, well, did they go up there to
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: Lowe's and run through that entire group of people that
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: were employed at that point in time? I'm talking about
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: everybody from managers to forklift drivers and to truck drivers.
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: I mean, this is a distribution center. They're hopping on
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: I-30 to take stuff all over the place.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: There, Nancy.
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: So for me, when I look at this, that's what
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: I'm thinking.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's follow your hypothesis through to its logical conclusion.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Let's pretend someone did follow her from Lowe's. Then what
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: do they do? Hide out on a dead-end road and
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: nobody sees them and they wait until everybody leaves the home?
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I mean... How would they know that the entire family
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: was going to leave? The mom with the two siblings,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: she goes to work, takes them to school. How would
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: they know the boyfriend and the boyfriend's stepfather going to
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: leave at 8 a.m. to go to the airport? So
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: they sat there and what? Hid behind a tree for
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: an hour and a half?
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: Well, if it's somebody local that knows that location, we
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: don't know what she said to somebody at work. I'm leaving.
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: I'm dead tired. I've worked all night long. I'm going
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: to my boyfriend's trailer. I hope nobody's there. That way
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: I'm going to sleep. And heads down to that location
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: by herself. Somebody up there may have known this. Remember,
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: you know, I don't know how much information people share
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: with folks that they work with. But, you know, some
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: people know a lot about you that work with you.
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: They know what your personal life is all about.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know what? That's a really good point. Crime
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Fifteen years after a teen girl
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: is murdered in her boyfriend's home, Is there finally a resolution?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Has the case been cracked? To Patricia Tice, this is
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Brittany's mom, were any of the boyfriend's friends questioned? Someone
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: that he may have mentioned to, I'm going to go
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: pick up my grandma from the airport, but hey, you
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: can't come over today because Brittany's here. I mean, Did
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: anyone else know within that circle that she would be
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: there that morning alone and unattended?
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: The teenage sisters? Boyfriend, new.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Teenage sister, boyfriend. Has he taken a poly or submitted DNA?
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Both, and he failed his polygraph, but no DNA connection.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: DNA is pretty convincing. Let me tell you, it's like
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: one in three trillion that you're not the person. Guys,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: the good news here is there's a new sheriff in
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: town literally rehashing this case. Take a listen to our cut,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: 12 regarding DNA.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: At this point in time, you know, we'd look at
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: anyone or anything.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: The crime scene leaving behind DNA evidence like bloodstains, something
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: they plan to retest.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: Let's use what technology we have now to try to
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: see if we can't solve this.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: But why? Over a decade later with no answer.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: Cold case groups that have kind of looked at some
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: of this did not look at evidence.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: They just looked at the reports from things.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick, joining me, California prosecutor and author of
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Red Flags. Wendy, that would be my first line of
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: cross-exam on an expert witness for the defense. They didn't
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: see the evidence. They're making an opinion judging off written reports.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: You've got to have all the evidence retested.
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: Oh, that's for sure. You know, memories may grow cold
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: as is the case, but you can breathe new life
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: into a cold case through technology. And that's what this
• 35:06
  Speaker 12: new sheriff with his fresh set of eyes and his
• 35:09
  Speaker 12: work ethic is intending to do. Once that happens, I mean,
• 35:13
  Speaker 12: we have technology today that didn't exist even five years ago,
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: much less 15. He'll take another look at the lack
• 35:20
  Speaker 12: of forced entry, no DNA. I mean, you would have
• 35:23
  Speaker 12: thought the boyfriend's DNA would have been there. This is
• 35:26
  Speaker 12: a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. I would almost think it's suspicious if
• 35:29
  Speaker 12: it wasn't. But the fact that he's going to take
• 35:32
  Speaker 12: that fresh look, that's got to be great news for
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: Brittany's family and for that community. Because as you said,
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: if somebody gets away with murder once, how hard is
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: it the next time? That is a huge point.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about something Miss Tice told us, Patricia Tice,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Brittany's mom. You said the boyfriend's sister. Boyfriend flunked a poly,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you'd think, but his DNA didn't match the DNA on
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: her leg. You know, you can flunk a poly. You
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: could be under suspicion for murder and be innocent, but
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: then you lie on a poly about smoking a joint,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and so you fail your poly. That doesn't mean he
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: committed the murder, but why would he flunk the poly?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Who else may have known she was there that day?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And let me remind everyone that the boyfriend and his
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: stepfather were actually caught on surveillance video. Isn't that right, Ms. Tice?
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's correct.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Where and what time?
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: After 8 o'clock, going from Wentzboro to the Dallas area,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: which is about a two and a half hour drive
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: each way.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: In the last days, a break in the case. We
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: learn an arrest has been made. The Wood County Sheriff's
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Office tells us that an arrest of a family friend
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: has gone down. Now, the family had theories all along
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: about who murdered Brittany, but they always remained open to
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: any and all possibilities. There was, of course, the family.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: There were neighbors, unlikely. But now we know the arrest
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: warrant has been obtained by Wood County Sheriff's Office, and
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: it results in Captain Chilson and Ranger Vance traveling to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the Dallas-Fort Worth area where Chad Earl Carr was arrested
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: in the 2000 murder of teen girl Brittany McGlone. Now
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends at Fox 51.
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: Chad Carr is sitting in the Wood County Jail this
• 37:37
  Speaker 13: evening charged with the murder of Brittany McClone, a case
• 37:40
  Speaker 13: we've been following for years. Fox 51's Laura Margolis tells
• 37:44
  Speaker 13: us how investigators finally came to this conclusion more than
• 37:47
  Speaker 13: 15 years after her death.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Lauren.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: In the Wood County Jail after he was arrested last
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Thursday in the Dallas area. In 2007, 19-year-old Brittany McGlone
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: was beaten, sexually assaulted and murdered in the light of day.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Her case remained.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Without a suspect being publicly named for more than a decade.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Wood County Sheriff Kelly Cole says originally Carr was listed
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: as a suspect along with several others describing the investigation
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: as a process of elimination. He says every sign started
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: pointing to Carr as the years passed.
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: I think it's important to the community to know that
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: we're doing our jobs, even on an old case, to
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: know that we're going to not give up no matter what.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: He says Carr's arrest brings some relief to the entire area.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And Sheriff Cole says it could take.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Years for this case to go to court, but he's
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: pleased with this big stepping point. He says Brittany's family
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: is also relieved and that they will continue to fight
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: for justice.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: In the last hours, we learned Carr was magistrated and
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: transported back to the Wood County Jail, booked on capital murder.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at Crime Online.
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  Speaker 14: The actual evidence against Chad Carr has not been released yet,
• 39:03
  Speaker 14: and Brittany McGlone's mother tells me that they are waiting
• 39:06
  Speaker 14: for Carr to be indicted. The Wood County Sheriff tells
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: KTAL good old-fashioned police work made all the difference.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: The case was 15 years old this past May.
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: From day one when I took over, we started working
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: on the case again. When May came, we started working
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: a little bit harder. You know, 15 years is a
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: long time for a family to be in limbo. So,
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: like I said back at the beginning with some other interviews,
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: I think it had been done. We just started from
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: day one again. Started with everything, going through everything. checking everything,
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: following down every lead, a few new developments in some stuff,
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: which I really don't want to go into, you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: for purposes. The family needs some closure, and this is
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: not complete closure, but this enabled us to get an
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: arrest warrant affidavit put together and have a warrant issued.
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: Captain Chilson and Ranger Vance located him in the Metroplex area.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: That's where Mr. Carr was at.
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: And they traveled up there the day after we got
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: the warrant issued and were able to pick him up
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: with no issues. Got him arraigned and we transported him
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: back down here where he's in custody now under a
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: million dollar bond.
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: And while he did not speak specifically about the evidence
• 40:21
  Speaker 15: that gave his office enough to make an arrest, Sheriff
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: Cole says it was a combination of evidence, both old
• 40:28
  Speaker 15: and new. And he's confident it's enough to get a conviction.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: We started in pretty hard conditions.
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: Once that 15 year anniversary had hit, it really kind
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: of hit us that, you know, this has been 15
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: years now. Uh, and, uh, once again, we were working
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: on it off and on all through the year. And
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: it's taken us about a year and a half to
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: get to where we were, uh, putting the pressure on
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: there those last couple of months.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: It was the last few months really looking at some things,
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: going to Austin, talking with the attorney general's office, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: cause at one time they had quite a bit of
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: the stuff, uh, comparing notes and making sure everybody was
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: on the same page and everything pointed to the same person.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: And to me, it was time to make an arrest.
• 41:10
  Speaker 11: Ms.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Tice, how do you keep going?
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Some days I don't, Nancy. It's just, you know, losing
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: my daughter, that would be bad enough. But then to
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: murder and thinking why anybody would want to hurt her.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: She was a completely innocent victim. And some days I
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: just can't go forward. You know, I just have to
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: be still.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Ms. Tice, tell me your most vivid memory of Brittany.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: I have so many. Just even when I had her,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I wanted a little girl so bad. And she was
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: a dream child, you know, smart, funny. Caring, not rebellious,
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: no drugs, no alcohol, an honor student. And she loved
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: her family and she made everyone that she come in
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: contact with, made them feel that they were the most
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: important person in her life. And I would very often
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: look at her and just wonder how I got so
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: lucky to have such a dream daughter.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Carr's bond said at $ 1 million, we wait as justice unfolds.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, Crime Story, signing off. Goodbye, friend.