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Men Helping Men Episode 32 · Men Helping Men

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As beloved sons, Aloha, good afternoon.
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Welcome to Men Helping Men on this Wednesday afternoon,
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September 2nd. Thank you for joining us today.
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Today we're joined by again Brandon Ortiz, our executive
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producer and pastor, Doug Chong Christ Built Ministries, the
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founder of Men Helping Men and also the lyric writer and the
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theology writer of the songs and the music that we he lifting to
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here and the Men Helping Men show.
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You know, that song was written, of course, about a tragic event
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that took place here on a beautiful island of Maui, the
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behind a fire and then of course, the floods and the
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challenge that came along with that.
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And you know, how do we stand, Doug, in moments of challenge
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like that if we don't have a foundation and a relationship
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with God? And that's it was a very trying
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time for a community here, of course.
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But you know, Doug, you wrote that song because it's of
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course, you're born and raised on the island here.
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It means a lot to you with this Ohana family here.
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But let's talk today, Doug, about the song correlation to
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having faith, trusting in God in those storms, in those moments
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of life when tragedy like that hits, what do we lean on?
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Where do we go to? How do we, how do we, how do we
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count that? And not that it's a joy that the
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fire happened, of course, but how do we, in those moments of
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deep trial, counted all joy, Doug?
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Yeah, Kevin, that's that's where you find out if your
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relationship with God is genuine or not.
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Just like a fighter, he finds out if all the hard work, the
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blood, sweat, tears in the gym paid off when he jumps in the
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ring for the main event. You know like Tyson when he he
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took it easy, was partying on what happened.
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Buster luggets knocked them out. So that that was a reflection of
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what he did before that fight. Storms come in life.
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Storms represent problems, trials, we all have them.
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How are we going to react or act towards them or in the storm?
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Just like our special forces in the military, Green Berets, Navy
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Seal's, they train 10 times harder than everyone else
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because they're the ones usually are sent into the storms.
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They don't run from the storms, they run into the storm.
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So Christians, because you learn how to lean on God, Jesus says
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come to me all you know, we're in burden and I will give you
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rest. My yoke is light.
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Basically Matthew 1128 and 29. When we learn how to depend on
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God through His word with the power of His Holy Spirit in the
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storms, we actually become stronger.
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Paul says in Second Corinthians 12/10 for when I am weak, then
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I'm strong. We see God the clearest When
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When do you need somebody in the gym the most get is the extra 2
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reps that you're trying to do that you can't do on your own.
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You need help in the storms of life is when we realize we need
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help and God is the one that we're supposed to depend on.
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We're supposed to be raised that way.
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Just like in the the Hawaiian culture, the Hawaii was living
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on a parcel of land, birth to death.
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You don't you didn't have cars. They walk, so they spent time
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talking. No cell phones, Androids,
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iPhones, they actually converse with each other.
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Kupunas, the elders had a big part in raising the children.
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So wisdom was passed on from generation to generation.
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We lost that connection. The ultimate relationship is
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with God. What is His 2 greatest commands?
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Loving Him with all our heart, mind, soul and strength.
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Loving our neighbors. We love ourselves.
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It's not following a set of structured cold rules.
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Rules minus relationship equals rebellion in the storms.
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Rules plus an intimate relationship with God equals
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obedience because you know it's back with love.
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Doug, you know we talk about rules.
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Doug, you know, help, help us understand the difference
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between rules in that sense whereby now we have works.
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What is what? What is what is the works aspect
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because we hear works. You show me your faith, I'll
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show you my works. Baba, what is the what is the
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definition then, Doug, of our works in the midst of building
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our relationship with God? What's that look like?
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Well, it's just like it's, it's, that's not the proper term
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because it's about a relationship with God.
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So it's so it's like me saying I earned the love that I got from
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my wife. You don't earn love.
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It's given to you. And it depends on the person
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who's loving you, depending on when they want to give it to you
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or not. So love of the love of God
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cannot be earned. It's not we do 50 things and
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then he's going to love you. You see it's he looks at the
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heart like I was telling you folks this morning, it's even if
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out of 100, let's say the number is 100, I try 6060 I get a 60.
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If that's the best I could do at the time, that's an E and
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everybody else, it's AD, not an F in the world's eyes, but in
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God, he looks at the heart. You're trying your best.
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I'm here with you. That's grace.
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See in the world's eyes, if you don't get an E, especially for
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sports, if you're not good enough, you're cut, you're gone.
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There's no grace there. It's all about the money with
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the creator of heaven and earth. He just wants you to show up,
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sacrifice the time. Come, come to me.
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So it's it's when the certain translations of the Bible use
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the word free gift. That's a, that's a contradicting
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statement because free is we do nothing.
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Now Jesus says if you want to gain life, you must lose your
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life. It's a sacrifice.
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If you have to sacrifice everything to get a billion
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dollars, you got to move, let's say to a deserted island.
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And he said, oh, it's free. It's not free If you got to make
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a sacrifice, it costs something, but not in the monetary value of
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a car or a house. How you would pay with the
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millions or billions. It costs you your free will.
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Jesus takes our place on the cross.
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Testament means covenant. Covenant is agreement.
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It's the old agreement, the new agreement.
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For instance, when God said I'll bring you out of Egypt, I'll set
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you free, take you to the land, Floyd with milk and honey.
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The promised Land. Now out of a million people he
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set free, Two people went into the promised land.
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Why? Because they were complaining in
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the desert. They were grumbling.
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You should have left me in Egypt.
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I don't have food. It's hot out here.
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So disqualified. Why?
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Because it's an agreement. I'll set you free from Egypt if
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you follow me. You do what I tell you to do.
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I'll get you into the promised land.
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I'll bless you just like the first King.
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You read my commands, you follow what I tell you.
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God says you don't become prideful, you show love.
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I'll bless your generation and generations to come.
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That's an agreement, that's an understanding.
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Jesus takes my place on the cross.
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He dies for me. I die to self daily and I live
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for Him with all my heart. What is the main thing He wants
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me to do? What was restored from creation?
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Relationship, Doug. Yeah.
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And to build a relationship that takes a time investment and a
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sacrifice of our own free will, as it were.
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Again, Jesus dying on the cross for us, that's a life for life.
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So, you know, if we are expecting to build a
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relationship with him based on that, then we have to lay our
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own life down. And it's a very difficult
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because of the same nature that rules in US and the separation
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that came from Adam and Eve. And that's when it that rises
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its head up within us to want to do it our own way, have our own
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have our own have our own quote relationship with God, which I
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hear a lot of, you know, people say I have well, I have my own
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relationship with God. You know, Romans 10/1 through 4.
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You know, Paul said it's my pray for prayer for Israel to be
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saved. Why, Doug would Paul say, was
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his prayer for Israel to be saved when they were God's
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chosen people? Doug.
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Because like all the other cultures kept, they create their
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own way to. Worship.
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Tea leaf on the back of the car, you know, Indians from not from
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India, Indies, Cowboys and Indians.
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They have all different types of beliefs, you know, so they make
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up their own way of worshiping their gods, who they worship in
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their heads. There's only one God.
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It's the creator of heaven and earth.
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So it's like going to work and you're making $200,000 a year
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and you tell the company you're working for, yeah, I want to do
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it my way. They're going like crazy.
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Right. You do it my way or it's the
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highway, right? Start your own business.
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Yeah. See, we're we're just think,
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what does heaven represent? You're living with God now.
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Who's father out there? No local guys whose father's out
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there. We can live with them and we can
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tell them what to do. We live in their house and we
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say this is the rules now I'm going to do this.
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I'm going to do that. Well, not my dad.
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It's 100% his way. Get lost.
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He'll kick you out. Or Lickins, right?
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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And Doug, Yeah. You know, it's really
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interesting you're reading in judges this morning.
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I kept asking. I said question this morning.
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I said, we're reading in judges. Why was there judge after judge
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after judge? Because of course their
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idolatry, because they're false, because of worshipping false
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gods. God should, God says out, shall
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we know the God before me? And so it was interesting to
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watch that pattern and again, reflecting on seeing those
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things that separate us from our true relationship and just very
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enlightening to me and very, very truth to me this morning
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when I saw that, when you explained that to me, of course,
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the judges were there for a reason to keep God's people in
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line, as it were. Again, talking about commands
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relationship. Now talk about love, Doug.
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What it what? How can we actually love God
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when you know, of course we can't see him, right?
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What? What's that explain that, Doug?
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Yeah, and you know what? What I had a problem with Kev,
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It's, it's going to church after church.
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And and I get why it's confusing.
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It's am I following God's ways because I trust in God, or am I
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following God's ways because I don't want to go to hell?
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I used to follow my dad's ways, his rules, because I didn't want
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to get lickets. It's not because I loved him and
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he loved me. It was it was from a threat.
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So how do I know I'm not following God because I so I
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don't go to hell? Because that's not faith.
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That's not trust. And I was confused.
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I thought I was, you know, but every time I come into a
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challenges in life, I cannot do what God tells me to do.
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I cannot let it go. I cannot forgive.
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I cannot stop my mind from replaying the negative action
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that happened or event that happened.
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And I always want to take revenge.
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It always steals my joy and it tortures me and it overflows to
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the people around me. Until he healed that hurt in my
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heart. And he taught me another way.
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He taught me how. See, when we read his word, Kev,
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all the things that he's saying is what we should be able to do.
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If our arteries weren't clogged, we didn't have hurtful times in
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our lives where we have to harden our heart.
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Harden our heart is I don't care.
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You get hard and you don't care. You're like a John Wayne.
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I know John Wayne is older. So if you're not that old, you
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won't know who John Wayne is. But you know, I watched this
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documentary on HBO the other day about mass murderers.
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And, you know, all of them, all of them were abused when they
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were children. They were abused when they were
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children. So that voice in their head,
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which is Satan, is tempting them and prompting them, pushing them
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to defend themselves. So in their head, in their
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world, they're back. They're getting abused.
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I get it. I was picked on when I was
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younger. I told myself when I get big one
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day, I watch all those Kung Fu movie, those Chinese, they look
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for revenge. And now you're 6 foot four and
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full of muscle, Doug. Yeah.
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You know, and building that relationship with God and having
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him heal our hearts so we can actually understand God's love
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for us. You know, it seems so abstract
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sometimes when you're when you're in that journey of your
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heart being healed and God doing those that deep heart work in
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you. And you always say this is about
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heart work. This is about what God's doing.
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And that's how we know when we when we start having those parts
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of our heart. I remember the struggles that I
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faced when I first started sitting in, you know, Christ
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built ministries because again, you know, we're Christ built.
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We're not, we're not church built.
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We're not we're not doctrine built.
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We're Christ, but we're based more and we're based on the
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truth of the word of God. And it does you always refer
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it's Navy. So training.
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So, you know, this is training that reveals the the true, true
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depth of the hurts that we have in our hearts.
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But the great thing, Doug, is that we actually have an answer
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of how to heal those deep wounds.
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So then we can now build that and relationship and understand
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God's infinite love from us. I mean, I remember sitting the
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other day talking with you, Doug, and kind of getting an
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idea that the God of all heaven and earth, the creator of all
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heaven wants to spend time with me.
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This this guy here. And yeah, he does.
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And we can only understand that when we begin to understand his
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nature, his character, when he loves what he hates.
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And that's comes through spending our daily relationship
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with Him, reading His Word, accurately interpreting it,
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knowing what the Bible says about Him, his nature, and how
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we build that relationship together.
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Yeah, exactly, Kevin. It's it's when people like
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growing up, I used to when you see people that I know here are
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locals, they they become like the people they hang around.
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You hang around with somebody who swears like a drunken
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sailor. Guess what?
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You can start picking up those words.
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There's this Filipino guy back in the days name was Mike.
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He looks like a local Filipino here, right?
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But then he talks like a, a black guy, like a rapper finding
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out he was living in LA so he was around, he grew up there.
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But he, he fits right in looks wise until he opens his mouth
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and then he, he speaks differently.
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Why? Because that's what he heard
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growing up. The other Filipinos here, they
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don't, they don't speak that way because again, it's who you're
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around and what you listen to and who you listen to.
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Point when we are with God all the time listening to Him, He is
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the standard of love and forgiveness.
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Guess what's going to happen to us?
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We're going to become more loving and forgiving.
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Now, it's not just by reading, it's not just by hearing His
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word. It's the Holy Spirit, His
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Spirit. God the Holy Spirit is going to
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take His Word and start to transform our hearts.
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That's beyond understanding. Meaning 2 + 2 = 4, it equals
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954. We don't understand how it
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happens mathematically or scientifically.
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See a miracle is something Jesus was raised on the third day from
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being pronounced dead on the cross.
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Science cannot explain that. Lazarus 4 days he came back to
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life. If science cannot explain it,
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they deem it as a miracle. How do we know if we're going
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through spiritual warfare? Because 2 + 2 = 52.
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It doesn't make sense. Logical sense.
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I'm talking about this doesn't make any logical sense.
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How is this happening? And time and time again, when I
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look back at my life, like Joseph was put in jail by his
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brothers, he never did anything wrong and he's being punished
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and he doesn't get it until the end when he's the second in
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command in Egypt. When his brothers came and they
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apologized, Don't, don't punish us.
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He said, no, it wasn't you that put me in prison, it was God.
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I get it now. So in my life, the trials I go
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through is like going to the gym and putting stress on your
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muscles so they get stronger. God says you know what to do,
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Look up, follow what I told you. You can do this, you see.
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And that's why he says, consider it pure joy when you face
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trials. I got you.
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I'm your personal trainer. Whispered says it's almost
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counterculture issue might say in the church today, whereby,
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you know, we, we try to mitigate all of our problems.
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We try not to have problems, but the problems are there in our
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life. We have a song about that.
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I think the problems are there in our life to build our faith
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muscle, to build our hope muscle, to build our love
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muscle. So as we spend time doing that,
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we get stronger. And again, you know, God's ways
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are not our ways as ways are how far above.
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So, yeah, to reflect on that, it doesn't make sense.
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But God is not like us. He has ways that he works.
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And Matt, I don't want to use that more than that note.
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Amazing truth ways. Yes, and this is the point.
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This is what's opposite of our fathers, our human fathers.
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God the Father wants to spend every minute with us.
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He wants to go through the good times and the bad times with us.
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It's not your 18. Get lost.
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Don't make your problem my problem.
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No, God says come to me, I'll help you through it.
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I created you to spend time with you from now, Kevin, Brandon,
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until eternity, every single day.
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See, that's not our culture. That's not what happens in our
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family. We try to be independent.
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You want to be a big boy, You want to be a man, Now be
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independent. Stop depending on me.
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God is depend on me. Now obey my commands.
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Build your relationship with me. Now you'll see how to obey my
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commands. It's not commands.
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It's to help you. It's so you don't hurt, get hurt
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and you don't hurt others. So commands are not commands.
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They're what can I do for you, Father?
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You know how much he loves you and how much he did for you.
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Then you get it, man. I get it.
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What can I do? Come on.
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Exactly. And if our own fathers love
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that, wouldn't we want to do the same thing for them?
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But yeah, what a great topic of here.
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Again, going back to the Maui fire, having those hurts, how we
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heal them, spending time with God, developing that
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relationship, knowing how to love him when we see that nature
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of God and how he wants to spend those every minute of the day
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with us. Just like we are so grateful to
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spend our time here. And this Wednesday afternoon
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throne and meet your sin. Don't hide what's known.
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Request His help. Thank Him for grace.
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Seek the Father's heart, seek the Father's face.
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Open the Bible, Make the Word your meal.
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Let the Spirit use the truth to expose and heal what the passage
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really says. Explain the context
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hearing, obeying, not just studying, knowing the Father
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Christ built. Pastor Doug and Millia, thank
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a daily into this relationship with God the Father.
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daily relationship Welcome back to Mount Helping
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Men. Thank you for joining us this
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Wednesday afternoon here, September 2nd.
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Doug, the song we just listened to about is about our daily
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spiritual routine. And by the way, we got some
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exciting news. I'm going to be on the air here
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now three days a week, but also we've got a new podcast on our
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YouTube channel, Men Helping Men, where Pastor Doug is
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actually going to be going through the Bible.
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Basics of the spiritual routine, how to how to start our day, how
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to, how to do our here, how to do our clothes, all those great
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things you heard in that song. So we'll have encourage you to
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But also we got Spotify, we got iHeartRadio.
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We got a whole bunch of new platforms.
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We're putting our message out here over the air to get the
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build a daily spiritual routine and a daily relationship with
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your Father so you can grow in love.
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Right, Doug? Yeah.
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And then grow it. And that's how we're talking
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about relationship and to getting to know God.
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You got to spend time with him. This is a very simple structured
35:15
way to do to do that every day. That's what I love about Christ
35:19
Built ministries. Yeah, and, and speaking about
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like we were talking about let's say the old Hawaiians, the older
35:24
days in the Hawaiian culture, the Kupunas, the the elders,
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let's say this, this one grandpa uncle lived 250 years old and
35:35
this is the diet he ate every day in the exercise exercises
35:39
that he did. Now, if that was implemented
35:43
today, you would live 150 years, let's say, healthy, no disease,
35:47
no sicknesses. Everybody would follow that
35:50
plan. They would follow their routine.
35:51
Now maybe they wouldn't get 100% every single day, but there's
35:57
something to strive for and there's a standard, a healthy
36:00
standard to gauge your eating against.
36:05
You get it? There's a right way now that's
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like the spiritual routine that's to keep our relationship
36:11
with God healthy because we don't go on how I feel because I
36:16
can eat that Costco hot dog and feel good after that and it's
36:21
not. Good for you, ice cream dog on
36:23
the backside of that, right? Or those musu, those spam musu
36:26
bees. They have them at Costco now
36:28
frozen. You can heat them up in the
36:29
microwave. And Doug, that's Speaking of
36:33
diet. You know, one of the first
36:34
scriptures that I remember memorizing about God's Word was
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Matthew 4. Four man shall not live on pride
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alone, but every word that proceeds from the mouth of God,
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the Word of God is our sustenance.
36:47
And that's what the spiritual routine does for us on a daily
36:50
basis. Yes, and it does it.
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It helps you do it properly, interpreting God's Word, not
36:56
against how I feel or this is what I believe it means.
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Kev, if you wrote a heartfelt letter to your daughter or your
37:05
son and Brandon grabs it and says, OK, I read it to them, but
37:09
I told him what I think it means.
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You'd be like, really? Why didn't you tell him what I
37:14
said? Oh, because I don't think I
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don't want to you My my job is to interpret it according to how
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God wrote it and who he wrote it to, not what it means to me.
37:25
That's the wrong teaching. And remember, a lot of us get
37:29
the wrong teaching in churches because Satan is our.
37:32
I always tell you folks, Satan is probably around like a
37:35
roaring lion. He's trying to confuse us.
37:39
I don't trust myself. Come on, Doug, what?
37:41
I think I've been wrong many times thinking no, no guarantee
37:45
this is right and it's not right.
37:48
And I even tell you in Brandon, Acts 1711, check what I even say
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against God's word. The Bereans were of more noble
37:59
character than the Thessalonians.
38:00
The Holy Spirit says who? Check the Scriptures against
38:03
what Paul is preaching. So when you interpret that
38:06
correctly, he's an apostle. He wrote 2/3 of the New
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Testament. The epistles, check them.
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Doesn't matter if he did. God says double check.
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So you have to know how to navigate through God's word.
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It's not hard once you learn it, it's it's impossible.
38:24
It's not common sense. So you have to learn it.
38:27
I was fortunate enough to go to Bible college to learn it.
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It wasn't something that I knew. I was just doing that, figuring
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that's what it means to me. It's divine.
38:36
I like the I'm like the X-Men. You think it's like COVID.
38:40
You just got a gift. No, it's like everything else
38:44
here. You reap what you sow.
38:46
If you want to a, you got to work at it.
38:48
You got to sacrifice your time. I want to learn a different
38:50
language. I got to sacrifice my time in
38:53
practice. You want to be good at sports,
38:55
you got to sacrifice your time in practice.
38:58
You want to be healthy. You got to sacrifice your time
39:00
in practice and do it so you want a relationship with God.
39:04
You got to sacrifice your time and listen.
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And you know, we say, Doug, one of Satan's biggest weapons is
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deception. So we've, you know, he is again
39:15
seeking to deceive us to not get the truth.
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So we keep, as it were, wandering around and never
39:24
finding that target and never really getting to actually build
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a real true relationship on God based on his word because he
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start, he wants to confuse us, deceive us, so we don't find
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that target and we have that song Bullseye, right?
39:41
And that's a going back to the song.
39:43
This, the song about the daily spiritual routine, helps us have
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that target of the bullseye, not shotgun approach, the sniper
39:51
approach. Correct.
39:52
And the bullseye. I wrote that song because I was
39:55
shooting in all different directions.
39:56
I didn't know what the heck what the heck I was doing.
40:00
The bullseye represents, now listen, a relationship with God.
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Now if I want to be a better, a better husband to my wife, I
40:11
want to love her like Jesus of the church.
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You know what I usually do? I find out how OK I got to take
40:17
her out on date night. Listen more, be nicer to her, do
40:21
more around the house. I miss the target.
40:24
I miss the bullseye. You know what the bullseye is?
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Spend more time with God, pray more, ask Him to teach me to
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change my heart, to build me into a better husband.
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You see. So that's the core.
40:37
He changes me from the on the inside.
40:39
So everything across the board changes.
40:42
If we have problems, the point of the problem is we lean on God
40:46
and we forget to lean on God because when Adam and Eve ate
40:50
from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, what that did
40:53
is they gave them knowledge. So now they think they know how
40:58
many of us think we know or how many of our kids think they know
41:01
better than us? All of a sudden they're
41:04
dependent and they don't know anything.
41:05
And then like one year, they're like, they know everything.
41:09
Oh, I know, I know. Wait, wait.
41:11
What happened? Now you know everything.
41:14
Did you eat something? Because you know I don't want to
41:15
eat that. Now all of a sudden, you know,
41:18
when you you were clueless a month ago, You know what I'm
41:21
saying? And that's sinful nature.
41:24
And I always tell you submission asking anyway, even if I think I
41:28
know, I ask, you know, I don't trust myself because I, I can
41:34
feel like it's right. And you know, Kev, like flying
41:37
the HSI, you can feel like you're going straight and you're
41:42
going down. Right, exactly what a great
41:44
analogy that is, Doug, because again, and, and, and the
41:47
learning process by which I had to go through when I when I
41:52
started doing my pilot's license, private pilots
41:55
different. You fly by visual VFR VFR means
41:59
visual flight references. You can see around, you can see
42:01
the ground, you can see the sky. But when you get into what's
42:04
called IFR, which is instrument flight rating, where you are in
42:08
clouds, you're you're, you're, you're confused.
42:11
You can't see outside and your body starts to lie to you.
42:14
Your emotions lie to you. That tells you things and it and
42:18
the process of overriding that emotion of thinking that you're
42:24
doing something that it's not it.
42:26
That was the challenge. And that's just the same thing
42:28
with spiritual growth, Doug, is we have to not base our our our
42:33
faith, our base our hope on emotion.
42:36
You have to base it on truth, and what is the truth is the
42:39
word of God. Yes, and and that's it.
42:42
It's knowing what to do when the storms come.
42:45
We're in the storm. We're not.
42:47
Let's say we we didn't get our paycheck yet and we're short now
42:51
that voice continue. Are you going to lose the house?
42:54
What a loser. How stupid are you not what
42:56
you're going to do you better make a loan.
42:58
You start worrying. God says now again in
43:01
Philippians 46 or 8, don't be anxious about anything, but in
43:05
everything, my prayer and petition with Thanksgiving
43:07
present your request to God and the peace of God, which
43:11
transcends all understanding. Meaning we're not going to
43:13
understand how it happens. We'll guard our hearts and our
43:16
minds. Meaning give it to him and don't
43:20
continue to worry about it because that's not going to
43:23
change anything for the positive.
43:25
But the Holy Spirit says, now keep in step with me.
43:27
Help me help you change the channel.
43:30
Focus on all the blessings you have.
43:31
Focus on the tiger and the the the lion and the bear that David
43:37
killed. Now he has the courage to fight
43:39
Goliath. Everybody else was shaking in
43:42
their boots or their sandals back in the day.
43:45
Only David, the little runt of the litter of his seven
43:49
brothers, the smallest one, went out and took on the giant.
43:52
And he's a legend because of it. Why?
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Because he lifted it up to God. He knows God is his strength and
43:59
he remembered killing the lion and killing the bear when they
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tried to kill the sheep, and he knew then that was God back
44:06
then. So this guy with God, I can do
44:09
anything. Right, Doug.
44:11
And that's going back to the song, tying in the daily
44:14
spiritual routine, having the applying the daily spiritual
44:18
routine, and then paying attention to the altars that God
44:23
brings along in that growth process of building your trust
44:27
in Him. Doug, trust, faith, love, all
44:32
those things start to grow when you develop your daily spiritual
44:36
routine and God shows you those little altars along the way.
44:40
And that's The thing is that Satan wants us to forget those
44:43
things, not God's, not with you. Come on, that was by chance.
44:48
But those are the benchmarks of God and the Holy Spirit changing
44:53
your heart little by little by little.
44:55
It's not like it just happens overnight.
44:57
It's like going to the gym, like flying and learning how to be a
44:59
pilot, learning how to do all these.
45:01
It's a daily application. And of course, you know, the
45:04
thing, Doug, you know, today is about the churches whereby they
45:07
go once on Wednesday and once on Sunday and the, and the pastors
45:11
aren't encouraging their, their, their congregation to, to read
45:16
and in this structured fashion. So what is you know, you always
45:19
talk and you hammer this. If you love me, you feed my
45:22
sheep, you feed my sheep, you feed my sheep.
45:25
So that's the thing about what Christ built does is that we not
45:29
just feed once a week or twice a week like babies that crave, you
45:34
know, crave spiritual milk, newborn babies every, how often
45:38
throughout the day, every day, all throughout the day.
45:41
Yes, and then you go back to why God created us.
45:45
He created Adam in his own image to spend time with Adam every
45:50
day, all day, not once a week. Come on down for an hour and a
45:54
half and then Wednesday, Sundays and Wednesdays.
45:57
No, every day he walked in the garden.
46:00
Now in Adam's sin that separated them and he could have sent them
46:04
to hell with Satan and his demons, but he loved Adam and he
46:08
loved his creation us. He sent his son to what to re
46:14
establish or establish an intimate daily relationship with
46:18
him. So understanding that is the
46:21
reason Jesus came here to connect us, to give us those who
46:26
want to give us the opportunity to build an intimate daily
46:31
relationship with our creator God the Father who loves us a
46:35
million times more than anybody here on earth.
46:38
And that is the reason not so he can answer my every prayer and
46:43
not be with me to be my my genie in a in a black book.
46:48
It's for it's for the privilege of me spending time with him.
46:52
We can't approach Donald Trump president.
46:55
They'll they'll tackle you down, especially after his life was
46:58
threatened so many times. No, we cannot approach the King
47:01
of kings with with dirty clothes, with a dirty heart.
47:05
That's what Jesus did. He paid the penalty, so we can
47:08
come to Him now and hear and listen and grow with Him and
47:12
learn from Him the right way. We learned the wrong way from
47:16
our human fathers, because I don't know anybody that was
47:19
raised. Christ built and raising the
47:22
training the way they should go. So they have hurt in their
47:25
heart. How do you get rid of it?
47:27
Somebody wrongs you. They call you names, they hurt
47:29
you deeply. How you going to hear that
47:30
wound? Come on.
47:31
Every time you what is forgiveness is when you think of
47:34
the offense or the hurt, does it steal your joy?
47:38
It doesn't affect you emotionally.
47:41
Now how are you going to make it not affect you if it really hurt
47:45
you? You can't.
47:47
So you know what you do, you cope.
47:49
I say like a martini. People drink.
47:51
You have a coping cocktail. Whatever it is to get through
47:55
that voice, not taking you into a dark place.
47:59
A lot of people harden their heart.
48:00
That's why you see such coldness here in the islands before you
48:04
said the whole lost spirit. Hey, Kev, eat before you.
48:09
Go home. Kev, go home.
48:11
We're going to eat. You know, kids before you, you,
48:14
you take care of each other, especially the Hawaiian culture.
48:17
Aloha spirit, loving and hospitable spirit.
48:20
We take care of each other. That's the thing of the past.
48:24
So sad, Doug, so sad, you know, and one of the things, one of
48:27
the terms I love you use Doug as a Christologist.
48:31
What's your prescription, Doug? If those listeners that are out
48:34
there that are in those places in their life that are having
48:37
marital issues, they're having relationship issues with their
48:39
children, maybe at work or just, you know, in the place in a dark
48:43
place where they got their own coping cocktails.
48:46
You know, Doug, even even you've shared your stain deities.
48:49
You know about your, about your drinking, you know, your pills
48:52
and all that stuff. And as a Christologist
48:55
prescription for those that are listening out there, what would
48:57
you know, as we kind of close down here?
48:59
What would be your prescription, Doug, for those out there that
49:01
are listening to us today that are in those places in their
49:04
life where it seems very bleak and very dark right now, and
49:08
you've been in that place. Yeah, which everybody, it's we,
49:12
we need to spend time the the covenant, the agreement is Jesus
49:15
takes our time, our place on the cross full time.
49:19
Now he doesn't get off at at 5 full time.
49:22
So we seek the Lord full time, just like being married.
49:27
We're not married part time and I'm off at 5:00 and my wife is
49:31
off. We're married all the time.
49:32
What What God has joined together.
49:35
Nobody can separate we're connected.
49:39
So all the time the problem the people with problems like me and
49:44
others that I used to work with and in M triple C the benefit is
49:50
I have problems I'm I'm problematic.
49:55
So if I don't stay connected to God all the time I start to
49:59
malfunction right away. I'm not somebody that clams up
50:04
and just it's quiet. It keeps it insight.
50:08
It'll overflow unto others. So the great thing is I have a
50:12
need all the time to connect to God and that's going to be a
50:15
reminder. It's the people that aren't like
50:17
that like a Brandon and you, you keep it to yourself.
50:20
And that's when people, they handle things.
50:23
They're no longer with us in the wrong way, if you know what I
50:25
mean. This is radio so.
50:28
Exactly, Doug and so yeah, that's that's again building
50:33
that daily re spiritual routine. It's a song coming back in
50:37
talking about, you know, the music that we've got created the
50:40
podcast, the things of that nature of the tools and the
50:43
resources that are noted becoming available for those
50:46
kids. You know, being on this what is
50:48
our 32nd episode here and out dug on men helping men.
50:52
Now we're starting to develop those the the core teaching
50:56
tools through our podcasts. Also, we got some great stuff
51:00
coming up here and and the next year whereby we've got a concert
51:04
venue coming up here. We're going to be having a a
51:06
very special concert for the Men Helping Men foundation here in
51:09
the island of Maui. But always a pleasure, Doug, to
51:12
sit and talk about our Lord and Savior Jesus talking about
51:17
building that relationship with God.
51:19
Brandon, it's always a pleasure to have you over there doing the
51:21
production of the show here. And we just want to thank you
51:24
guys. I'm going to let Doug take it
51:26
out here today. Thank you for joining us today.
51:28
God bless you all out there. We'll be back here on Wednesday,
51:31
actually will be Friday, but coming up here, we've got three
51:34
days a week. So, Doug, take it away.
51:36
For us for today, it's it'll be Friday at 7:00 in the morning
51:39
and, and Monday's at 11. And we're going to we're we're
51:44
going to get together with building our website, getting
51:48
the spiritual routine available to everyone where you have a you
51:52
have an opportunity. And it's not, it seems, hey,
51:55
that's no problem. I can do it.
51:56
But the spiritual warfare attached to it, that's the
51:59
challenge. That's defying ourselves and
52:01
taking up our cross baby, worth it.
52:03
It's worth it for eternity. God bless you.
52:05
See you soon. Aloha men helping.
52:53
talk.