Latest / Brian Thomas / Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor - Debunking Vivek's Myths
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Station 832 at 55 kc the talk station happy friday
- 0:05Speaker 1: love my fridays for a variety of reasons including jack
- 0:08Speaker 1: windsor joining the show every friday beginning at this time
- 0:10Speaker 1: on the 55 kc morning show you can find him
- 0:12Speaker 1: regularly throughout the week and hell all over radio it's
- 0:15Speaker 1: the ohio press network.com jack windsor welcome back man how
- 0:19Speaker 1: do you work it in all these radio interviews throughout
- 0:21Speaker 1: the week.
- 0:23Speaker 2: You know, I don't sleep much, Brian. That's part of
- 0:25Speaker 2: the secret formula. But yeah, I just I love talking
- 0:29Speaker 2: with folks and and addressing the important issues, man. But
- 0:32Speaker 2: it's always an honor and a pleasure to be here
- 0:34Speaker 2: with you and Joe.
- 0:35Speaker 3: So thank you.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Love having you on, man. Appreciate your insights. And of course,
- 0:38Speaker 1: I do rely on your website. The Ohio Press Network
- 0:40Speaker 1: dot com is I do on many websites just like
- 0:42Speaker 1: give props to the folks wonder where I get my information.
- 0:45Speaker 1: But we get to talk to you about it real
- 0:47Speaker 1: time now. And let us address. And this is the
- 0:49Speaker 1: problem with I guess every politician faces this. smear campaigns.
- 0:54Speaker 1: The political action committees, most notably, are notorious for just
- 0:57Speaker 1: pushing the envelope as far as possible between truth and
- 1:00Speaker 1: the lies, extrapolating soundbites from without context. We all know
- 1:04Speaker 1: that same old story. And I'll talk to people all
- 1:08Speaker 1: the time. How come Vivek Ramaswamy in this particular case
- 1:11Speaker 1: doesn't have a commercial refuting fill-in-the-blank allegation that's running rampant
- 1:16Speaker 1: on internet or on television? Well, It takes a while
- 1:18Speaker 1: to produce spots. Which ones are you going to pick
- 1:21Speaker 1: from among the seemingly unlimited number of lies that are
- 1:23Speaker 1: being spread out there? It's a real challenge for a politician.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. And, you know, part of the
- 1:31Speaker 2: issue too, Brian, is once in a while, if you
- 1:36Speaker 2: give attention to something, it's like feeding a fire oxygen.
- 1:40Speaker 2: And so I think a lot of times they go,
- 1:42Speaker 2: you know, do I want to deal with, Because some
- 1:44Speaker 2: of it, let's be really frank, some of it is
- 1:46Speaker 2: pretty racist sounding and slandering. One of those, the anchor
- 1:50Speaker 2: baby one that keeps coming up over and over again.
- 1:52Speaker 2: I addressed that yesterday. But the one that is really
- 1:59Speaker 2: intriguing to me, if you don't mind, I think it
- 2:01Speaker 2: would be interesting. I mean, we can go back and
- 2:04Speaker 2: talk about the claim that he was basically part of
- 2:08Speaker 2: the lockdown brigade and part of one of DeWine's official
- 2:12Speaker 2: committees and that he was stricter than Amy Acton regarding COVID.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Those are kind of bunk. But the one that I
- 2:20Speaker 2: think has gotten some legs with even in the Republican
- 2:24Speaker 2: circles is this claim that he created an Alzheimer's drug
- 2:32Speaker 2: and performed some sort of pump and dump. You've probably
- 2:35Speaker 2: heard that one. So if you don't mind, let's talk
- 2:38Speaker 2: about that one a little bit, and then we can
- 2:39Speaker 2: address some of the others if you'd like.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Let's call that a tease for the next segment, Jack Windsor,
- 2:43Speaker 1: because it's 8.35. I'll take a quick break. We'll bring
- 2:46Speaker 1: you back and talk about the pump and dump. That
- 2:47Speaker 1: one rubs me really the wrong way, Jack, for all
- 2:50Speaker 1: the reasons that you know and so much more.
- 2:51Speaker 3: But we'll talk about some of the.
- 2:52Speaker 1: 8.38 at 55 KRC, the talk station.
- 2:57Speaker 3: It's Friday, and a happy one to you.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Jack Windsor from theihopressnetwork.com, getting ready to break down this
- 3:02Speaker 1: whole anti-Vivek Ramaswamy lie campaign. He's going to talk about
- 3:06Speaker 1: several of them that are swirling on the internet as
- 3:08Speaker 1: well as in some of these political action committee ads,
- 3:10Speaker 1: but Yeah, the pump and dump. Jack, could you give
- 3:12Speaker 1: my listeners the reality on that one?
- 3:15Speaker 2: Yeah, so the claim is, and you've probably seen the commercial,
- 3:19Speaker 2: that he got rich off a failed Alzheimer's drug. But
- 3:23Speaker 2: when you actually look at the record, the drug is
- 3:26Speaker 2: called Interpidine. And it actually failed in phase three trials
- 3:32Speaker 2: back in September 2017. And the company killed the program
- 3:37Speaker 2: in January of 2018. Now, those dates are important. It
- 3:41Speaker 2: never went to market. That's the key thing, Brian. Oftentimes
- 3:45Speaker 2: we hear he created this drug. It defrauded Alzheimer's families.
- 3:49Speaker 2: It never even got out of legitimate testing. So not
- 3:52Speaker 2: one patient ever bought it. Not one Alzheimer's family ever
- 3:55Speaker 2: paid a dime for it. And by the way, I
- 3:58Speaker 2: studied finance and pump and dump is actually a real
- 4:01Speaker 2: financial crime, usually prosecuted by Securities and Exchange Commission or
- 4:05Speaker 2: Department of Justice. There's no such thing that he's been
- 4:09Speaker 2: prosecuted for. So, you know, a pump and dump means
- 4:13Speaker 2: that you hype the stock and you dump the shares
- 4:15Speaker 2: before they crash. And, you know, the New York Times
- 4:19Speaker 2: actually reviewed Ramaswamy's tax returns and they found that he
- 4:23Speaker 2: sold his shares in 2015, two years before the trial
- 4:27Speaker 2: results came in. And the parent company is called Roivent.
- 4:33Speaker 2: And he sold his shares to an investment firm called
- 4:36Speaker 2: Viking Global as part of bringing in what he called
- 4:39Speaker 2: institutional partners. And he said, you know, we were forced
- 4:41Speaker 2: to sell. Yet in some ways, it's a regret because
- 4:45Speaker 2: the shares would have been more valuable today if they
- 4:48Speaker 2: hadn't been sold. And he held his Roivant stake through
- 4:51Speaker 2: 2017 in that crash and took those losses with everybody else.
- 4:56Speaker 2: And Roivant companies, this is the other important part, they
- 4:59Speaker 2: don't ever talk about this, went on to put real
- 5:02Speaker 2: medicine in patients' hands. There's a drug called Orgovix, an
- 5:06Speaker 2: FDA-approved drug in 2020 for advanced prostate cancer. There's Mifembri,
- 5:13Speaker 2: which was approved in May of 2021 for women with
- 5:16Speaker 2: uterine fibroids. And then the Japanese pharmaceutical giant Sumitoma paid
- 5:23Speaker 2: $ 3 billion in 2020 for five of Roivin's drug programs.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And I remind people all the time, Vivek did something
- 5:30Speaker 2: real creative and innovative here. If you manufacture drugs, it's
- 5:34Speaker 2: a long process to develop and test and get to market,
- 5:38Speaker 2: what he was able to do was identify drugs that
- 5:41Speaker 2: maybe failed in a test before or didn't have the
- 5:44Speaker 2: backing that they needed. And he shortened the cycle, the
- 5:48Speaker 2: financial cost and timeline to bring them to market, which
- 5:51Speaker 2: is a really innovative way to think. And so they've
- 5:53Speaker 2: taken this one drug that failed in tests and lied
- 5:56Speaker 2: about it to voters. Really grotesque.
- 5:59Speaker 1: It is. And let's face it, you know, a stage
- 6:01Speaker 1: three clinical trials is as far as it went because
- 6:03Speaker 1: it wasn't working. That's the point of a clinical trial.
- 6:06Speaker 1: And you aren't forced to do that. If you enter
- 6:09Speaker 1: into one of those trials, it's because you think, well,
- 6:12Speaker 1: you know what? I'm either out of options elsewhere, and
- 6:14Speaker 1: this is my last best chance to solve the problem,
- 6:17Speaker 1: or you want to be on what you hope is
- 6:18Speaker 1: the cutting edge of medicine and get the best possible drugs.
- 6:22Speaker 1: But it's got to be tried. And not all stage
- 6:25Speaker 1: three trials result in success. This just happens to be
- 6:28Speaker 1: one of them. And, of course, you can't ignore the timing.
- 6:30Speaker 1: You don't own the damn stock anymore, Jack. I mean,
- 6:33Speaker 1: this shouldn't even be a topic of conversation.
- 6:36Speaker 2: No. And in fact, I'm going to I'm going to
- 6:39Speaker 2: kind of sweep this one under this rug, too, because
- 6:41Speaker 2: I don't even think that it deserves talking about. But
- 6:45Speaker 2: I will address it. You've also heard because Amy Acton
- 6:48Speaker 2: did this when Ohio State played Texas. She created a
- 6:52Speaker 2: short video, put it out on social media, did the
- 6:54Speaker 2: hook them horns, you know, upside down and really tried
- 6:57Speaker 2: to criticize Vivek Ramaswamy because the rumor is that he
- 7:01Speaker 2: he actually did create a company called Strive Financial. And
- 7:04Speaker 2: I'll tell you why that's important in just a minute.
- 7:07Speaker 2: But he stepped down as its CEO. Remember, he ran
- 7:10Speaker 2: for president in 2024. He was in that primary election.
- 7:14Speaker 2: And when he was running, he stepped down. Well, the
- 7:18Speaker 2: CEO that took over Strive Asset decided to move it
- 7:21Speaker 2: to Texas. It was not Vivek Ramaswamy's decision. But again,
- 7:25Speaker 2: they've lied and they would have you believe that he
- 7:27Speaker 2: was in the position of leadership to move that company.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Another just blatantly false rumor that that if he just
- 7:33Speaker 2: did a little bit of fact-checking, you could figure out
- 7:36Speaker 2: it was a lie.
- 7:37Speaker 1: And the other one, Cincinnati native Yvette Gramaswamy and his family,
- 7:40Speaker 1: that he's an anchor baby?
- 7:42Speaker 2: You know, I've got to watch my language here. This
- 7:45Speaker 2: one really upsets me. I don't know that I identify
- 7:48Speaker 2: with a party. I'm more conservative, probably more libertarian. But
- 7:52Speaker 2: I look at the Republican Party and I go, that's
- 7:54Speaker 2: the party that was founded by people who wanted to
- 7:57Speaker 2: free the slaves. So why are we having this discussion,
- 8:00Speaker 2: not only on the left, But I'm hearing people on
- 8:02Speaker 2: the right do this. It's gross. Makes me angry. Vivek
- 8:05Speaker 2: Ramaswamy was born August 9th, 1985, at a hospital in Cincinnati, Ohio,
- 8:10Speaker 2: to parents who came here legally from India. His dad,
- 8:13Speaker 2: an engineer at General Electric in Evendale. His mother was
- 8:16Speaker 2: a geriatric psychiatrist who treated Ohio seniors. He's natural born
- 8:21Speaker 2: and he's an American citizen under the 14th Amendment, has
- 8:24Speaker 2: the same, you know, citizenship and right as every listener
- 8:28Speaker 2: born in either Riverside, Grant Hospital or Good Sam.
- 8:32Speaker 3: It's just insane.
- 8:33Speaker 2: It is.
- 8:34Speaker 1: And I've addressed the racist in the Republican Party who
- 8:36Speaker 1: say they won't vote for him because he's a man
- 8:38Speaker 1: of color, which just I can't believe that actually people
- 8:40Speaker 1: have said that out loud in my presence. Maybe not
- 8:44Speaker 1: quoting it that directly, but that is literally what I
- 8:47Speaker 1: hear when they talk about it that long news lines.
- 8:49Speaker 1: And then, you know, quite often that people of different religions,
- 8:52Speaker 1: he's Hindu. And Brian Thomas says, so what? We don't
- 8:55Speaker 1: live in a theocracy. His religion should not matter a whit.
- 8:58Speaker 1: What is he campaigning on? What is his background show?
- 9:01Speaker 1: Listen to his passion for this state. And if you
- 9:04Speaker 1: want to dive into the tenets of Hindu religion, I
- 9:06Speaker 1: don't think you have to worry about terrorism coming out
- 9:09Speaker 1: of nowhere. He is just a man of faith that
- 9:11Speaker 1: happens to be a different religion.
- 9:13Speaker 3: It's weird.
- 9:14Speaker 1: What what's the problem with that i mean we're going
- 9:16Speaker 1: back to the kennedy days we were worried about electing
- 9:18Speaker 1: a catholic to the highest office of the land how
- 9:20Speaker 1: did that turn out i mean he got assassinated but
- 9:23Speaker 1: by all accounts you know yeah the pope wasn't running
- 9:26Speaker 1: the country.
- 9:28Speaker 2: So so there's there's probably a few angles we could
- 9:30Speaker 2: talk about here uh number one i'll just say this
- 9:34Speaker 2: joe biden identified as a catholic.
- 9:37Speaker 3: Okay he didn't walk the walk though did he jack Right.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Words matter less to me and affiliation matters less to
- 9:44Speaker 2: me than what direction you're walking, whether you say what
- 9:47Speaker 2: you're going to do and you do what you say.
- 9:49Speaker 2: And real quick sidebar, Vivek Ramaswamy said, I'm going to
- 9:53Speaker 2: work on getting this gas tax thing done. He got
- 9:55Speaker 2: it done. He lobbied the governor. He lobbied two statehouse leaders.
- 10:00Speaker 2: got it over the finish line. He's not even the governor.
- 10:02Speaker 2: So when he says he's going to do something, he
- 10:04Speaker 2: does it.
- 10:04Speaker 3: That matters to me.
- 10:05Speaker 2: But let's address the spiritual issue, right? And I dealt
- 10:10Speaker 2: with this yesterday with somebody on social media who was
- 10:13Speaker 2: saying he's not a Christian. I can't vote for him.
- 10:15Speaker 2: I said, well, read your Bible. Look for the name Nebuchadnezzar.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Look for the name Darius. Over history, God has used
- 10:23Speaker 2: people who were not necessarily believers, but they were not
- 10:26Speaker 2: hostile toward God's people. And in some instances, those things
- 10:30Speaker 2: worked out really well for the believers. And then I
- 10:33Speaker 2: remind them, a guy that they like to quote a
- 10:35Speaker 2: lot by the name of Paul was actually a Christian killer.
- 10:38Speaker 2: He hated Christians. He was out killing them. And then
- 10:41Speaker 2: God took the scales from his eyes on the road
- 10:43Speaker 2: to Damascus and the rest is history. But then the
- 10:46Speaker 2: other part is, if we are the party, talking to Republicans,
- 10:51Speaker 2: that wants to honor the Constitution and rule of law,
- 10:55Speaker 2: you can't celebrate religious liberty as a Christian and then
- 10:59Speaker 2: not give that same right to a Hindu or somebody else. Again,
- 11:02Speaker 2: it comes down to policy choices in my book. And
- 11:05Speaker 2: I'm admittedly, Brian, deeply spiritual. I love the Lord. I
- 11:09Speaker 2: do have a faith, but it's not driving my decision
- 11:13Speaker 2: in this race beyond the fact that Amy Acton is
- 11:15Speaker 2: hostile to what I believe in. Vivek Ramaswamy is not
- 11:19Speaker 2: and has certainly better policy positions.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Beautifully stated and boiled down perfectly. Jack Windsor, it's what
- 11:24Speaker 1: we've come to expect from you. That's why you're so
- 11:25Speaker 1: damn popular. TheOhioPressNetwork.com. We're going to dive on into, I guess,
- 11:30Speaker 1: why we shouldn't vote for Alison Russo for Secretary of State.
- 11:34Speaker 3: That'll be next. Don't go away with Jack Windsor. 55KRC,
- 11:37Speaker 3: the talk station. It is 8.50 at 55KRC, the talk station.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Happy Friday.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Got Smitherman on Monday, Monday, Monday, and Eric Conroy is
- 11:48Speaker 1: going to join the program on Monday as well. Vote
- 11:49Speaker 1: Conroy and don't vote Russo, says Jack Windsor from the
- 11:52Speaker 1: Ohio Press Network. For this segment, why aren't we voting
- 11:56Speaker 1: for Alison Russo other than we have a better candidate
- 11:58Speaker 1: on the Republican side of the ledger, Jack?
- 12:00Speaker 2: Well, Brian, she's the Democrat who wants to count Ohio's votes,
- 12:07Speaker 2: but she works for a beltway firm that the Justice
- 12:10Speaker 2: Department says couldn't count $ 300 million in And that's not
- 12:15Speaker 2: even her first mess. Alison Russo has been listed as
- 12:19Speaker 2: a research director since 2010 at a company called Kennel & Associates,
- 12:24Speaker 2: a healthcare consultant firm in Falls Church, Virginia. In 2023,
- 12:29Speaker 2: the U.S. Justice Department settled with Kennel under the False
- 12:33Speaker 2: Claims Act. The DOJ alleged the firm's payment formula overpaid
- 12:38Speaker 2: six military family health plans by more than $ 300 million
- 12:43Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars. between 2008, 2012, and the firm didn't tell
- 12:48Speaker 2: the government about its own error. It's a huge issue.
- 12:52Speaker 2: If you're going to be Secretary of State, not only
- 12:54Speaker 2: do you have to count, you have to validate and
- 12:58Speaker 2: communicate clearly and transparently with the public. The firm didn't
- 13:03Speaker 2: do that. And Russo still works there, according to my understanding,
- 13:07Speaker 2: in a leadership role. Now, Robert Sprague, her Republican competitor,
- 13:11Speaker 2: his campaign... It really started shining a light on this.
- 13:15Speaker 2: And I think they have an ad out on this.
- 13:18Speaker 2: And then you may go, OK, so that's a little
- 13:20Speaker 2: bit problematic. She is currently a state representative. She served
- 13:25Speaker 2: as the Ohio House minority leader until I want to
- 13:28Speaker 2: say 2025. She stepped down, which she was in the
- 13:33Speaker 2: process of prepping for a statewide run, which is what
- 13:36Speaker 2: she's doing now. But in that leadership role, she had
- 13:39Speaker 2: some issues with people in her own party. A guy
- 13:42Speaker 2: by the name of Elliott Forehand, a state representative, came
- 13:45Speaker 2: on my show. It's been a couple of years ago
- 13:47Speaker 2: now and claimed that he was harassed, cajoled, and that
- 13:51Speaker 2: if he didn't march in lockstep with Alison Russo and
- 13:54Speaker 2: the Democrats, that he lost leadership positions, lost opportunities, kicked
- 13:59Speaker 2: off committees, kept out of the communication loop. So, you know,
- 14:03Speaker 2: the party that says they don't want kings had a
- 14:06Speaker 2: minority leader in the Ohio House that ruled with an
- 14:08Speaker 2: iron fist, if you will.
- 14:10Speaker 3: Wow.
- 14:11Speaker 1: And pivoting back to this Kennel Company, the veterans health
- 14:15Speaker 1: care benefit shenanigans, $ 300 million worth, was that a criminal investigation?
- 14:20Speaker 1: Is this still pending? I guess it sounds like it
- 14:23Speaker 1: should be criminal. If they know they inappropriately dealt with
- 14:27Speaker 1: this $ 300 million and had an obligation or duty to
- 14:29Speaker 1: disclose and they didn't do it, that screams shenanigans, if
- 14:33Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Jack.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're still diving into that a little bit.
- 14:37Speaker 2: I will tell you this. It's interesting. We use a
- 14:39Speaker 2: few systems to do some research, and some of them
- 14:43Speaker 2: have stopped allowing me to gather information. So I'm wondering
- 14:46Speaker 2: if it might be an ongoing investigation, Brian. There still
- 14:49Speaker 2: may be more here behind the curtain.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Well, when the information's out there, you're going to find
- 14:55Speaker 1: it at the Ohio Press Network. Just tune in and
- 14:57Speaker 1: listen to Jack about 19 times during the week in
- 14:59Speaker 1: the various radio programs he's on, including here every Friday
- 15:03Speaker 1: at 830.
- 15:04Speaker 3: At 55.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Are you saying I get around? I'm sorry, man.
- 15:07Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, I, I just thought, you know,
- 15:10Speaker 1: for a moment in time of it, maybe it's just
- 15:12Speaker 1: Jack and I enjoying a special relationship.
- 15:14Speaker 2: It's unique.
- 15:15Speaker 1: And Jack's busy times working on the epic times, but no,
- 15:17Speaker 1: you're on LW. You're on other radio stations.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Like, okay, fine.
- 15:21Speaker 2: But Brian, this is the only place I am every week.
- 15:24Speaker 2: And it's, I covet this Friday spot, man. This is
- 15:27Speaker 2: you and I have something special.
- 15:28Speaker 1: We do. I, that's why I love having you on
- 15:30Speaker 1: Jack Windsor, the hot press network.com. We'll do this again
- 15:33Speaker 1: next Friday.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Won't we, Jack? Yeah, we will.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Have a great week. Best of health to you, man.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Thanks again for your great insight. Folks, if you didn't
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