Latest / O'Brien & Doug / O'Brien & Doug S5:E22 [April 14, 2022 So & So and the Whatevels]
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- 0:00SPEAKER_08: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com.
- 0:04SPEAKER_08: KMX Music Press Command.
- 0:06SPEAKER_08: The Red Runner West Delaney.
- 0:08SPEAKER_08: Doug's Cut and Love.
- 0:13SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you straight.
- 0:16SPEAKER_03: My way or the Highway.
- 0:19SPEAKER_03: So anybody wants to walk, do it now.
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: This, this, yo-yo, this is the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
- 0:28SPEAKER_02: Why don't you dare the face up with your little friend?
- 0:35SPEAKER_08: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
- 0:37SPEAKER_08: Don O'Brien.
- 0:38SPEAKER_08: And I am Doug.
- 0:40SPEAKER_08: And it is Aloha.
- 0:41SPEAKER_08: And Shalom.
- 0:43SPEAKER_08: Season five, episode 21.
- 0:46SPEAKER_08: Twenty-one.
- 0:46SPEAKER_08: Twenty-one.
- 0:47SPEAKER_08: Ninety-ninth episode.
- 0:48SPEAKER_08: Yeah, we normally go to twenty per season.
- 0:51SPEAKER_08: Uh but since we're so close to a hundred episodes, we decided that we're going to go to twenty-two because this is our 99th podcast episode.
- 0:58SPEAKER_08: Ah, I remember it like it was yesterday.
- 1:00SPEAKER_08: Oh, you think about it though.
- 1:01SPEAKER_08: There was the one podcast that we did back in 2014.
- 1:05SPEAKER_08: Do we count that?
- 1:06SPEAKER_08: No.
- 1:06SPEAKER_08: I was gonna say, because we're at 100 if we count if we count that.
- 1:09SPEAKER_10: No, I'm not counting it.
- 1:10SPEAKER_10: Okay, good.
- 1:11SPEAKER_10: I mean we played it.
- 1:12SPEAKER_10: I counted as because we played it.
- 1:14SPEAKER_08: Right, we did play it.
- 1:15SPEAKER_10: So I counted as part of ours.
- 1:17SPEAKER_08: Right.
- 1:18unknown: Okay.
- 1:20SPEAKER_10: Hey, we're trying this out.
- 1:22SPEAKER_10: We're gonna, we're we're gonna do this, and then Yeah.
- 1:25SPEAKER_08: I don't think it was a misstep.
- 1:26SPEAKER_08: I think it was a misfire.
- 1:28SPEAKER_08: Yeah, because I mean I think we had good intentions and we were yeah, we had the right idea.
- 1:32SPEAKER_10: We all know what the road to hell is paved with.
- 1:34SPEAKER_10: Right, exactly.
- 1:35SPEAKER_10: It's with with the O'Brien and Doug podcaster.
- 1:38SPEAKER_10: Right, exactly.
- 1:41SPEAKER_08: So uh for this episode, we have no we have no plans, we have no idea what we're gonna talk about, but we are gonna talk to our our band.
- 1:49SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 1:50SPEAKER_08: Our our uh let's see.
- 1:52SPEAKER_08: The boys in the band.
- 1:53SPEAKER_08: The boys in the band.
- 1:54SPEAKER_08: Now, Shane Mountain, of course, is our bass player.
- 1:58SPEAKER_08: And T B player.
- 2:00SPEAKER_08: And so we're gonna do he was in the middle of cooking supper, so we're gonna give him a little extra time here.
- 2:05SPEAKER_08: Um but Josh Kovach is we still consider him our lead guitar player.
- 2:10SPEAKER_10: Well, of course he is.
- 2:11SPEAKER_08: You know, um, but he has been making uh a life for himself in Nashville, um, playing just all over the place.
- 2:17SPEAKER_09: All over the place, yeah.
- 2:18SPEAKER_08: Uh he plays in many bands and he goes on tour with a couple of different bands and opens for big names all across the country.
- 2:26SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 2:26SPEAKER_08: So he's doing very well for himself.
- 2:28SPEAKER_08: So we're gonna try and check in with both of them.
- 2:30SPEAKER_08: Um going to try and hook up right now and see if anybody is going to pick up.
- 2:38SPEAKER_10: Who's who's gonna answer the call?
- 2:40SPEAKER_10: Oh, Carmen Crossing's calling.
- 2:43SPEAKER_08: I'm calling you, but I don't answer it.
- 2:46SPEAKER_07: Why not?
- 2:46SPEAKER_07: Actually, you could.
- 2:47SPEAKER_07: You could just throw everything off.
- 2:52SPEAKER_07: I'm declining.
- 2:52SPEAKER_07: Let me make sure this volume is all the way up here.
- 2:55SPEAKER_08: Here we go.
- 2:57SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you watch.
- 2:58SPEAKER_08: Oh, it says Doug is busy.
- 3:00SPEAKER_08: So nobody's answering.
- 3:03SPEAKER_08: It is we gave them a specific time, and nobody's answering.
- 3:07SPEAKER_08: So that's disconcerting.
- 3:11SPEAKER_10: Let it ring.
- 3:13SPEAKER_10: Let it ring.
- 3:14SPEAKER_10: Let it ring, let it ring, let it ring.
- 3:17SPEAKER_08: Um maybe I should try FaceTime.
- 3:20SPEAKER_10: All the weather outside is fire at all.
- 3:23SPEAKER_08: It is thundering out.
- 3:24SPEAKER_10: Well it was, yeah.
- 3:25SPEAKER_10: I saw uh when I was driving up here, I was I I thought I was seeing things.
- 3:29SPEAKER_10: I saw lightning, and I was like, really?
- 3:31SPEAKER_10: That's weird.
- 3:32SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 3:33SPEAKER_08: Yeah, when we come, we came, we just went to my son's uh play, he was uh on the crew of uh middle school play, so we went to that tonight and it was pretty good.
- 3:41SPEAKER_08: Good.
- 3:41SPEAKER_08: Um and on the way back we saw that this like the whole side of the I mean the whole side of the sky was pitch black.
- 3:48SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 3:49SPEAKER_08: I was like, what's going on there?
- 3:50SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that's the way it was when I grew up here.
- 3:52SPEAKER_08: Yeah, but then my wife came down and she said it's it's lightning and and thundering and stuff like that.
- 3:57SPEAKER_08: So this uh I mean we could fry everything tonight.
- 4:00SPEAKER_10: That'd be great, huh?
- 4:00SPEAKER_10: Oh hey.
- 4:01SPEAKER_10: What a way to end the 99th episode.
- 4:04SPEAKER_10: Hey, there won't be 101 because we fired all our equipment.
- 4:11SPEAKER_08: Well, it's ringing.
- 4:12SPEAKER_08: Uh um I told him I told him that.
- 4:15SPEAKER_08: Well, Joko was just on a few minutes ago.
- 4:17SPEAKER_08: He was.
- 4:17SPEAKER_08: So I don't know.
- 4:18SPEAKER_08: And he said he was gonna get to his computer, so I I don't know.
- 4:20SPEAKER_08: Uh I mean I got I got it on in the background.
- 4:24SPEAKER_08: It's you can still hear it ringing, but it's I got it turned down.
- 4:27SPEAKER_10: So if they pick up then we'll just keep going until they pick up.
- 4:31SPEAKER_08: Oh, somebody just somebody just picked up?
- 4:34unknown: No.
- 4:34SPEAKER_10: Hopping on computer is what Joko just said.
- 4:37SPEAKER_08: All right.
- 4:38SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 4:39SPEAKER_08: So he's he'll be picking up here in a second.
- 4:41SPEAKER_08: No, it's okay.
- 4:41SPEAKER_08: We'll talk to Joko before we talk to Shane.
- 4:43SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 4:43SPEAKER_08: We'll catch up on because he's got a lot going on.
- 4:47SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he does.
- 4:47SPEAKER_08: And we're not gonna talk about um what was mentioned in the thread the other day because I don't know how much of that is is uh under the radar and and what were we talking about?
- 4:59SPEAKER_08: Well, I don't know if I can tell you because if anyone was there.
- 5:03SPEAKER_08: Well, you were in the thread.
- 5:04SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 5:05SPEAKER_08: And um Was it of a personal nature?
- 5:08SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 5:08SPEAKER_08: Yeah, okay, yeah.
- 5:09SPEAKER_08: So we're not gonna bring that up.
- 5:10SPEAKER_08: No.
- 5:11SPEAKER_08: Uh because I mean I guarantee you certain people don't listen to this podcast, but I don't want to.
- 5:16SPEAKER_10: He was just wondering if he should buy a SpongeBob square pants costume, and we were just like, dude, please do that.
- 5:23SPEAKER_08: Do it and wear it on stage.
- 5:25SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 5:26SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and that's code for something, I guess.
- 5:30unknown: Yeah.
- 5:30SPEAKER_08: SpongeBob.
- 5:31SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 5:32SPEAKER_08: So I'd be interested to hear what's going on with him because there was he was playing with a band called 641, and he still plays with 641.
- 5:40SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 5:40SPEAKER_08: Um but they w they had interest uh in them from a label, a major label.
- 5:45SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I saw the record label.
- 5:46SPEAKER_10: I got signed by somebody.
- 5:48SPEAKER_08: Uh I think it was uh it's not Big Loud.
- 5:53SPEAKER_08: Big Loud shirt.
- 5:54SPEAKER_08: Uh maybe he'll tell us.
- 5:57SPEAKER_08: Maybe he'll tell us.
- 5:58SPEAKER_08: Uh maybe that fell through.
- 5:59SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
- 5:59SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
- 6:00SPEAKER_10: We haven't heard we haven't heard uh well I haven't seen anything about it since then, so.
- 6:04SPEAKER_08: No.
- 6:05SPEAKER_08: Alright.
- 6:07SPEAKER_08: Turning on my laptop, be right there.
- 6:10SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 6:12SPEAKER_08: As is always the case.
- 6:13SPEAKER_08: The bass player and the guitar player are late.
- 6:16SPEAKER_08: I'm just making that.
- 6:18SPEAKER_10: When is that a thing?
- 6:21SPEAKER_08: I'm just making that.
- 6:22SPEAKER_10: What is that?
- 6:23SPEAKER_10: I don't even understand.
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: Why do we didn't do that?
- 6:39SPEAKER_10: I was in the grocery store today.
- 6:40SPEAKER_10: They were playing uh Dee Martin.
- 6:42SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah?
- 6:43SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 6:48SPEAKER_10: I can't remember the name of the song.
- 6:50SPEAKER_10: I just remember that part.
- 6:53SPEAKER_10: Oh Lord.
- 6:54SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 6:55SPEAKER_10: What was that song?
- 6:57SPEAKER_07: Lottie?
- 6:58SPEAKER_10: No, no, that's not the name of the song.
- 6:59SPEAKER_10: If I hear it again, I'll know exactly what it is.
- 7:02SPEAKER_08: Did you know that you know when when somebody does an impression of Cary Grant and they go, Judy, Judy, Judy.
- 7:09SPEAKER_08: Do you know he's never said that?
- 7:12SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 7:12SPEAKER_10: So where did it come from?
- 7:14SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
- 7:14SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
- 7:15SPEAKER_08: I've I've I've read that somewhere.
- 7:16SPEAKER_08: He's never uttered the that phrase.
- 7:19SPEAKER_08: But because I I don't know if for somebody was trying to do an impression of him, and it was there was a woman named Judy there, and he said Judy, Judy, Judy.
- 7:27SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
- 7:28SPEAKER_08: I don't know how that came about, but he never said that phrase.
- 7:32SPEAKER_10: Oh.
- 7:33SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 7:34SPEAKER_10: Well, it's like uh James Cagney in that oh you dirty rat.
- 7:37SPEAKER_10: He never said that.
- 7:38SPEAKER_10: He didn't?
- 7:39SPEAKER_10: That that's my understanding.
- 7:40SPEAKER_10: He already I don't think he said that.
- 7:43SPEAKER_10: Somebody attributed it to him, but he never said that, I don't think.
- 7:47SPEAKER_10: Of course that could be urban legend and you know.
- 7:50SPEAKER_08: Okay, this is waiting for others to join.
- 7:54SPEAKER_09: Okay.
- 7:54SPEAKER_09: Maybe they're on and reading.
- 7:59SPEAKER_09: Look at my hand.
- 8:04SPEAKER_09: Should I oh oh what happened?
- 8:06SPEAKER_02: It's Joe Cow!
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you.
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: What's up, brother?
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: Not much, guys.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: What are you doing?
- 8:19SPEAKER_08: Well, you know, we're doing the same thing we always do.
- 8:21SPEAKER_08: Nothing.
- 8:22SPEAKER_08: I know.
- 8:22SPEAKER_08: Nothing.
- 8:23SPEAKER_08: That's there's not much different down here, man.
- 8:25SPEAKER_08: Where's Shane?
- 8:26SPEAKER_08: He's I think he's coming right now.
- 8:28SPEAKER_08: Yep, there he is.
- 8:29SPEAKER_08: Well, tell me.
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: Yo, did you die that, or is it just right now?
- 8:37SPEAKER_10: Wow!
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: Coming in.
- 8:42SPEAKER_05: We're old, baby.
- 8:44SPEAKER_05: We're old.
- 8:46SPEAKER_08: Wait, who are you talking to?
- 8:47SPEAKER_08: You're talking to John.
- 8:48SPEAKER_08: You're talking to me or Shane?
- 8:50SPEAKER_08: Look at this.
- 8:51SPEAKER_08: Shane.
- 8:51SPEAKER_08: Look at that.
- 8:54SPEAKER_08: Bro, whoa.
- 8:54SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 8:55SPEAKER_05: All right.
- 8:56SPEAKER_05: Six and one half dozen of the other.
- 8:57SPEAKER_05: It's been a long time.
- 8:59SPEAKER_07: It's been a while.
- 9:00SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 9:01SPEAKER_07: So how's it going, fellas?
- 9:03SPEAKER_05: Good.
- 9:04SPEAKER_05: Hold up, hold up, hold up.
- 9:05SPEAKER_05: Turn that camera a little bit.
- 9:06SPEAKER_05: We're going to talk about this.
- 9:07SPEAKER_05: Is that a Vox?
- 9:08SPEAKER_05: I do have a Vox, yeah.
- 9:09SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 9:09SPEAKER_08: That's my little uh my little practice amp.
- 9:12SPEAKER_08: It's a uh uh I can't remember, it's a hmmm, I wish I could tell you the name of it, but it's a it's a modeler amp.
- 9:20SPEAKER_00: Um is it one of the ones with the like a little tube in it?
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: Like it's got one tube.
- 9:23SPEAKER_08: It does have a pre-amp, uh tube pre-amp.
- 9:25SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 9:26SPEAKER_08: It's like Valtronics or Valve.
- 9:27SPEAKER_08: That's exactly what it is.
- 9:28SPEAKER_08: Yep, Valtronics.
- 9:29SPEAKER_08: And it's great for this this little room right here.
- 9:31SPEAKER_08: I can just because I don't want to crank, well, I and every once in a while I do.
- 9:36SPEAKER_08: I don't want to crank that puppy up all the time because every once in a while.
- 9:40SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 9:41SPEAKER_08: I just for for those of you that are listening.
- 9:44SPEAKER_08: I just showed a picture of my other amp that I've been using, which is an ice rate.
- 9:48SPEAKER_10: Don't be fooled.
- 9:49SPEAKER_10: He showed everybody his he shows everybody everything.
- 9:58SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 9:59SPEAKER_06: So we haven't exhibitionists.
- 10:01SPEAKER_08: We haven't talked to Shane since St.
- 10:03SPEAKER_08: Patty's Day.
- 10:04SPEAKER_08: St.
- 10:04SPEAKER_08: Paddy's Day.
- 10:05SPEAKER_08: Um so we're gonna skip you for a second and we're gonna check in with Joko.
- 10:09SPEAKER_08: Uh because we haven't talked to Joko in I mean we we still do over the thread.
- 10:14SPEAKER_08: The thread.
- 10:15SPEAKER_08: But um uh we're not gonna mention certain things uh that were recently in the thread.
- 10:21SPEAKER_08: Um but we're but we we want to talk about like what's been going on because um we've been reporting of course this was a while ago.
- 10:30SPEAKER_08: We've been reporting that one of the bands that you were playing with had had record label interest.
- 10:34SPEAKER_08: So I don't know what happened there, um or what's happening there, I should say.
- 10:38SPEAKER_08: You're playing with all kinds of different people uh every night, basically, right?
- 10:43SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: So tell us I'm congested.
- 10:46SPEAKER_08: Tell us the latest.
- 10:47SPEAKER_08: What's going on?
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: So oh man.
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: Uh trying to think.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: The last thing I just did, like the coolest thing, 641, which is one of those groups that I play with.
- 10:57SPEAKER_00: Um, they're the ones I've been playing with a bunch that did like the cruise with and all that.
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: We just got done uh like a full like uh I think 10 or 9 or 10 date tour with another artist, which was a lot of fun.
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: Um that oh man, we drove a lot.
- 11:12SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: Uh I I think back to the like when we uh like the first ever gig that I did.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah when we drove down to Mass.
- 11:20SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: What was it, like 13 hours?
- 11:22SPEAKER_10: Some like was it that long?
- 11:24SPEAKER_10: It was it was pretty long, man.
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: Like that?
- 11:27SPEAKER_05: I feel like it was more than 10.
- 11:29SPEAKER_05: That would be a yeah, I don't think it was 13.
- 11:31SPEAKER_05: I don't know if it was more than 10.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: It felt like 13.
- 11:33SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 11:33SPEAKER_05: Anyway.
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: We got a hotel on the way there.
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: I remember that much.
- 11:37SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, it was just like a lot of like eight or nine hour drives.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: So it's like the it's like the little, it's the on the things that you don't think about that were that end up being the things that I laugh about the most.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, there you there's this stereotypes like, oh, just you know, I want to tour, I want to see the country, I want to do all these things.
- 11:53SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: You don't.
- 11:59SPEAKER_08: There is a there is a common misconception because I've always wanted to do that.
- 12:04SPEAKER_08: I've always kind of you know wanted to do what you're doing, which is like get on a tour bus or or or or even if even in a van.
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: I want to get on a tour bus too.
- 12:14SPEAKER_08: And travel the country and play music everywhere.
- 12:18SPEAKER_08: I but it's a it's a romanticized idea, isn't it?
- 12:22SPEAKER_08: Because the traveling part, although some of it can be fun, it's grueling.
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: It can be really grueling.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of like there's a lot of you know, you finish the gig at 11 o'clock.
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: Sometimes on this last run, you know, we were the we were the opener, so it was just us and then the main artist, which is Tyler Rich.
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: They were on a bus.
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: So you get in these situations where when you're playing with an artist like I am right now, that's us, but in time like in a sprinter van, there's like the Mercedes Benz, like those mid-sized vans.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: You know, you get stuck on like a tour with a guy that's got a bus driver.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: Well, that bus driver, his only job on the entire trip is just to drive the bus.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: So when everybody else is rocking and doing their thing, he's just sleeping in the hotel room because as soon as they get done and packed up, they're eight hours to the next spot.
- 13:07SPEAKER_11: Right.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: Because that's all he's gotta worry about.
- 13:09SPEAKER_00: Everybody else takes a nap.
- 13:10SPEAKER_11: Right.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: Um, and that forces us had having like six guys in a van to somehow figure out how to get to the next gig, which is eight hours away, right?
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: You know, and sometime we gotta sleep and we gotta get a, you know, we got a shower and this whole thing.
- 13:24SPEAKER_00: So it can be a really interesting kind of situation.
- 13:27SPEAKER_00: We roll into venues and you have to show up, load in, change into your show clothes, and then get on stage.
- 13:36SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: And then get right back in the van after you're done and zip to the next one, nine hours.
- 13:40SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 13:41SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 13:42SPEAKER_05: And it's crazy, but at the same time, I love it.
- 13:45SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude, you have no clue.
- 13:50SPEAKER_10: Hey Joko, have you seen uh Dave Grohl's What Drives This Movie?
- 13:54SPEAKER_10: No, I haven't.
- 13:55SPEAKER_10: Do check it out, man.
- 13:56SPEAKER_10: It's about it's about touring in vans.
- 13:59SPEAKER_00: So it's uh yeah, I need to because Shane, this last trip, the smell, man.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: It's it's really it's it's sad that you bring that up, but there was one particular night where we were going and somebody just kept like, what somebody in the back was asleep and they just kept letting them go.
- 14:21SPEAKER_08: When they're asleep, it's even worse.
- 14:24SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they have no control over it.
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: At three in the morning, silent, nobody says anything.
- 14:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, because they don't even know they did it.
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 14:31SPEAKER_00: And then you're just like, man, I'm gonna turn us into an 18-wheeler.
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: I just want to drive it.
- 14:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
- 14:39SPEAKER_00: It's uh and you're that's yeah, yeah.
- 14:45SPEAKER_08: And you're uh you're doing other stuff too.
- 14:47SPEAKER_08: You're building uh um pedals and stuff, not pedals, but I guess.
- 14:51SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 14:51SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so tell us about that.
- 14:53SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, so I uh my my like labor of love for the better part of like three months is I built this whole huge pedalboard.
- 15:00SPEAKER_00: Let me hold, let me pick it up.
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: It's sitting right here.
- 15:04SPEAKER_08: Apparently, Shane's had enough.
- 15:05SPEAKER_08: He's getting.
- 15:07SPEAKER_00: Shane's over it.
- 15:09SPEAKER_08: Oh, he's gonna talk about his damn pedalboard again.
- 15:11SPEAKER_08: I'm leaving.
- 15:12SPEAKER_00: This is stupid.
- 15:13SPEAKER_00: I'm going.
- 15:14SPEAKER_06: He's just jealous because your pedal board's bigger than his now.
- 15:18SPEAKER_06: Well, you know, we all have that problem.
- 15:21SPEAKER_08: And he's not here to defend himself.
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: This is awesome.
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: That's the best part, man.
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: What more can we say about him a little bit?
- 15:29SPEAKER_07: Has he lost more hair?
- 15:30SPEAKER_07: Oh god.
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: I just wish the front to chip.
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: I missed the front and tip.
- 15:36SPEAKER_08: He's coming back.
- 15:37SPEAKER_00: He still don't have headphones on.
- 15:39SPEAKER_08: Okay, he does.
- 15:39SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 15:40SPEAKER_08: Wait, he's got a lot of money.
- 15:43SPEAKER_08: Okay, now he's got him on.
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: Okay, sh shh.
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: It was the best Thanksgiving.
- 15:53SPEAKER_05: Sorry, you're not gonna make fun of me.
- 15:54SPEAKER_05: I I I I really don't care.
- 15:56SPEAKER_05: I had to get up and uh so we've got a little nicer weather maybe down here than you guys do up there.
- 16:02SPEAKER_05: Um and it was so nice today that somehow a wasp managed to get into my office.
- 16:08SPEAKER_05: Oh, is that why you got a nice?
- 16:10SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so now I'm all paranoid.
- 16:14SPEAKER_05: It's just laying in wait.
- 16:16SPEAKER_08: It is all right.
- 16:17SPEAKER_08: Show me that pedalboard.
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay, here we go.
- 16:20SPEAKER_00: So I built this, this took me like a couple months, and uh, I was like, man, I'm so excited to use this.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: It was like I made like some just a bunch of little things, and it was like a labor of love for the better part of three months, and uh through this process, a lot of people followed along through like social media and just other guitar players I know in town.
- 16:40SPEAKER_00: I talked to them a bunch, and they were all really interested in the in the build and how it came together and how clean it was.
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: And uh through that I had you know five or six inquiries like, hey man, would you be interested in putting together my board for me and building my stuff?
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: And uh I never really thought about you know doing it on the side for making a little bit extra money.
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: It was always just something I did for fun.
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: You know, when I back when I lived up there with you guys, you know, we we always talk about gear all the time.
- 17:08SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: And still to this day, and you know, just especially with Jay and you know how that you know, all that stuff.
- 17:15SPEAKER_08: Talking about Jay Green, who is uh Jay Green, yeah.
- 17:18SPEAKER_08: Yeah, who has uh uh a habit of building his own guitars these days and and and pedalboards, and he is the probably the neatest, um, most anal pedal board person I've ever met.
- 17:31SPEAKER_08: Anyway, keep going.
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah, so through through you know chatting with Jay and doing that stuff and just getting knowledgeable about different gear and how how it affects the guitar signal.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: Um I've ended up doing probably uh I think four or five other boards.
- 17:46SPEAKER_00: I have another one sitting here.
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: The part just came in the other day for me to do, so I'll put that together here on my next day off for somebody and then off the door.
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's been cool.
- 17:56SPEAKER_00: It's it's fun because I I I've been really lucky to get to do things and make money in ways that you know it would not like non-conventional work, I wouldn't say.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: You know, like I don't have uh an ordinary lifestyle with like a nine to five job or you know what you'd expect somebody to do for work.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be going you know, dude.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: I'm just pumped that you keep subscribing, like you getting the gear.
- 18:21SPEAKER_01: What did he say?
- 18:22SPEAKER_01: I didn't I didn't hear what you said.
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: What did you say?
- 18:24SPEAKER_00: I said you getting the gears.
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: No, no, what did Shane say?
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: What did Shane say?
- 18:28SPEAKER_00: Oh, Shane asked me how my OnlyFans was going.
- 18:36SPEAKER_10: I missed that.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: But um but yeah, man, it's been cool.
- 18:43SPEAKER_00: Like the it's just been another way for me to it it it ends up being fun for me, and then I just get to make a little extra cash inside.
- 18:50SPEAKER_07: That's cool.
- 18:50SPEAKER_07: Nice, that's awesome.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's better than you know, it's like Mary Kay for like 28 year olds, you know, it's just random jobs, side jobs.
- 18:59SPEAKER_08: 28, hold on.
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be twenty I'm gonna be twenty-eight in a month, dude.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: No while.
- 19:02SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 19:03SPEAKER_08: Because you joined our band when you were fifteen.
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: Seventeen.
- 19:07SPEAKER_08: No, it was fifteen.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: No, I was using the F-word too much at 17.
- 19:11SPEAKER_08: Yeah, but that was when he was like playing with us.
- 19:13SPEAKER_08: But he joined the band at 15, didn't he?
- 19:16SPEAKER_08: No.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: I don't think I could no, I couldn't drive because my mom had to bring me to the Sam's the Save a Lot parking lot to drive to Madawaska because I didn't know how to palm mute.
- 19:34SPEAKER_06: Okay, have we ever talked about that?
- 19:36SPEAKER_06: Have we ever talked about that on the podcast?
- 19:40SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 19:40SPEAKER_08: We we we should because I was forgive me, but I was a dick.
- 19:46SPEAKER_08: You were done.
- 19:46SPEAKER_08: I was a dick.
- 19:48SPEAKER_08: It was needed.
- 19:49SPEAKER_08: It was needed.
- 19:50SPEAKER_08: And look at you now.
- 19:51SPEAKER_08: Come on.
- 19:53SPEAKER_08: I still don't know how to palm you.
- 19:58SPEAKER_08: So we played so hold on.
- 20:00SPEAKER_08: So we played a show in um a neighboring town uh at a at um uh a nightclub that was was uh well it was Jerry T's nightclub.
- 20:10SPEAKER_08: Right, yeah, it was yeah, the chugamug, man.
- 20:12SPEAKER_08: The chugamug, right?
- 20:13SPEAKER_08: And so the chugamug.
- 20:14SPEAKER_08: But it was was it your first show with us?
- 20:16SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 20:17SPEAKER_08: It was your first show with us.
- 20:18SPEAKER_08: Second.
- 20:19SPEAKER_08: What was the first one?
- 20:19SPEAKER_08: I was down in Chickopeee.
- 20:21SPEAKER_00: The Chickopee Mass.
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: Chickopee was your first gig?
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: Oh was it?
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: Because I almost passed out, remember?
- 20:27SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we I remember because we didn't take any breaks.
- 20:29SPEAKER_05: We played for four hours straight and we didn't take a break.
- 20:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, you animals.
- 20:32SPEAKER_10: Dude, dude, you were pale, man.
- 20:34SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 20:36SPEAKER_08: Ghost like why did I think that the Madawaska gig was before Chickopeee?
- 20:41SPEAKER_08: I thought so too.
- 20:42SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I think it was.
- 20:44SPEAKER_10: No, because the no the Chickopee gig was like September, October, and then we played the chugamug in November.
- 20:51SPEAKER_05: Was it?
- 20:52SPEAKER_05: It would have been September because it would have been September's because my my in-law's anniversary is September 11th.
- 20:56SPEAKER_10: Right.
- 20:57SPEAKER_10: All right.
- 20:58SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, it was like mid-September, something like that.
- 21:00SPEAKER_00: Anyway, you were you were my trauma, my trauma can confirm that it was the second gig.
- 21:09SPEAKER_08: So you're playing right next to me.
- 21:11SPEAKER_08: My third episode.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: The notes from my last session told me that it weren't the second game.
- 21:19SPEAKER_08: So you're playing next to me, and you hadn't been playing guitar for very long, I don't think.
- 21:24SPEAKER_08: I think you were still obviously learning, which I am 48, and I'm still learning, obviously.
- 21:30SPEAKER_00: We're all pad ones.
- 21:31SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 21:32SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 21:32SPEAKER_08: Um, but I got frustrated with you because you were you were playing the chords and everything, but you were just uh how can I do this here?
- 21:44SPEAKER_08: Hold on.
- 21:45SPEAKER_08: You were playing like and just not in tune.
- 21:55SPEAKER_06: No, you you might have been in tune, but I'm like
- 22:00SPEAKER_08: Like, do you know how to palm mute?
- 22:03SPEAKER_08: And uh no, you didn't.
- 22:06SPEAKER_08: But I was, yeah, I was a dick.
- 22:08SPEAKER_08: I really I really was nasty.
- 22:10SPEAKER_08: Oh no, and we we know we were there.
- 22:12SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 22:12SPEAKER_05: And funny thing is, Josh, is is is after that gig is when is when you moved because uh you started standing next to me because Brian didn't want to stand next to you.
- 22:22SPEAKER_05: Is that true?
- 22:23SPEAKER_05: Is that true, or are you just making that up?
- 22:26SPEAKER_05: If it's not, it should be.
- 22:30SPEAKER_08: I don't think that's true, but I don't remember.
- 22:34SPEAKER_08: I was like I said, I was a different guy then.
- 22:37SPEAKER_08: Um but it's it could be true.
- 22:40SPEAKER_08: It could be true.
- 22:41SPEAKER_08: Because I think it would have would have thrown me off.
- 22:44SPEAKER_08: So I might have put you on the other side because I was hearing the the jangle.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: No, I would do the same thing to a younger me now.
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: Dude, you don't have to explain how you felt in that moment to me because I felt that way.
- 23:00SPEAKER_05: So it was after that gig that um we sat down at um a local sandwich shop.
- 23:10SPEAKER_05: Yes, and had a very long conversation.
- 23:12SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, we had a covenant.
- 23:14SPEAKER_05: It wasn't that long.
- 23:15SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 23:16SPEAKER_08: No, we basically kicked you out of the band.
- 23:19SPEAKER_05: We did not kick him out of the band.
- 23:20SPEAKER_05: That was very that was very, very firmly stated.
- 23:23SPEAKER_08: Basically, I said basically.
- 23:24SPEAKER_05: It was very, very firmly stated.
- 23:26SPEAKER_05: We said you're not playing with us anymore.
- 23:28SPEAKER_05: I'm just really you learn how to palm you.
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: I was just glad that you guys took me to a public place so like I wouldn't make a scene.
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: You didn't like really it was really nice, you know.
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: It was really nice.
- 23:42SPEAKER_00: Uh but no, yeah, I basically I think you guys like basically put me on probation.
- 23:45SPEAKER_08: It was like yeah, that's what it was.
- 23:46SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
- 23:47SPEAKER_00: Like super pumped to have you, but also like learn everything better and be better.
- 23:54SPEAKER_00: And so thanks for that.
- 23:55SPEAKER_00: I remember I used to come over to this radio station, and after the radio show, we would like sit in the conference room, you, me, and Doug, and we play acoustics, and I would try to play like the parts, and we would sit in the conference room.
- 24:06SPEAKER_07: Yep.
- 24:06SPEAKER_07: Yep, I remember that.
- 24:07SPEAKER_07: Yep.
- 24:07SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I remember that too.
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: I remember that.
- 24:09unknown: Yep.
- 24:10SPEAKER_00: And then we played that there was a gig where we just did it as a trio and you played bass.
- 24:14SPEAKER_08: Who played bass?
- 24:16SPEAKER_00: You I played bass?
- 24:18SPEAKER_08: In the Doug's family.
- 24:20SPEAKER_08: Where was that?
- 24:21SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it was in my garage.
- 24:22SPEAKER_10: Oh it was our family, it was our family reunion.
- 24:25SPEAKER_08: And Shane couldn't make it, obviously.
- 24:28SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I vaguely remember that.
- 24:30SPEAKER_08: Playing bass and singing is hard, Shane, isn't it?
- 24:33SPEAKER_05: You who are you telling?
- 24:38SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I had a hard time.
- 24:40SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
- 24:40SPEAKER_00: I don't know how you do it.
- 24:41SPEAKER_08: No, I had a hard time with that.
- 24:43SPEAKER_08: Uh let's see.
- 24:45SPEAKER_08: What else?
- 24:46SPEAKER_08: What else can we do?
- 24:47SPEAKER_08: Because this is our 99th episode, by the way, guys.
- 24:49SPEAKER_08: Can you believe that?
- 24:50SPEAKER_00: Oh, no way.
- 24:51SPEAKER_08: 99 episodes.
- 24:52SPEAKER_08: Two two years ago.
- 24:53SPEAKER_00: So I got I have a question.
- 24:54SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 24:55SPEAKER_00: Why weren't we 100?
- 24:56SPEAKER_00: Like, who is above us?
- 24:58SPEAKER_08: We're we're doing the birds and the bees with Bob.
- 25:02SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
- 25:05SPEAKER_00: You get it now?
- 25:06SPEAKER_00: He doesn't know that he doesn't know that yet.
- 25:09SPEAKER_00: Not for nothing.
- 25:10SPEAKER_00: That would be hilarious.
- 25:13SPEAKER_05: I feel like Josh doesn't even know Bob like that well, but he knows well enough to know.
- 25:18SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
- 25:19SPEAKER_05: I know plenty.
- 25:20SPEAKER_00: I know not to know that that would I would pay a lot of money.
- 25:29SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it'll be fun.
- 25:31SPEAKER_08: Uh and and he's on board, by the way.
- 25:33SPEAKER_08: Did I tell you that?
- 25:33SPEAKER_08: No, you didn't.
- 25:34SPEAKER_08: He's on board, he's got to find a phone because he's got to find a phone.
- 25:37SPEAKER_08: Well, he said he doesn't have uh uh an iPhone.
- 25:40SPEAKER_08: And I said, Well, it doesn't have to be an iPhone.
- 25:42SPEAKER_08: I mean we could do it this way, the way we're doing it now.
- 25:44SPEAKER_08: You know, but does he have a neural link?
- 25:46SPEAKER_00: Like, why doesn't he have an iPhone?
- 25:47SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 25:49SPEAKER_00: I think he has he got a flip phone?
- 25:51SPEAKER_08: Well, I think he has what you have, which is uh uh Android.
- 25:54SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 25:55SPEAKER_08: Because we were gonna do this main messages.
- 25:57SPEAKER_08: We were gonna do this over FaceTime, but we decided decided to do it right here and on uh Messenger instead.
- 26:02SPEAKER_08: So this is working.
- 26:03SPEAKER_08: We've got this new uh we've got this fancy new I wonder if I can show this to you while you're yeah, I love you new sound effects.
- 26:08SPEAKER_08: Yeah, do you?
- 26:10unknown: Yeah.
- 26:12SPEAKER_08: This is our this is our podcast.
- 26:14SPEAKER_08: Uh hold on.
- 26:15SPEAKER_08: There where is it?
- 26:16SPEAKER_08: There it is.
- 26:17SPEAKER_08: This is our podcast machine right here.
- 26:19SPEAKER_08: Guys.
- 26:19SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, that's actually Oh, that's cool.
- 26:21SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's a little zoom thing.
- 26:22SPEAKER_08: It's pretty cool that Doug uh Doug invested in for the for the podcast.
- 26:26SPEAKER_08: And it's actually it's it's uh pretty cool.
- 26:29SPEAKER_08: It's only been dropped once.
- 26:30SPEAKER_08: It's only been dropped once.
- 26:32SPEAKER_00: Hey.
- 26:33SPEAKER_08: Lightly used.
- 26:36SPEAKER_00: It's it's working wonders.
- 26:38SPEAKER_10: Somewhere.
- 26:39SPEAKER_10: No, I watched it fall.
- 26:44SPEAKER_08: Yeah, we actually recorded But it wasn't me.
- 26:46SPEAKER_08: We actually report recorded last last week's last week's podcast.
- 26:49SPEAKER_08: Twice.
- 26:50SPEAKER_08: Was it yeah, last week's podcast originally had Chris Morton on.
- 26:54SPEAKER_08: Um but uh uh halfway through his interview it felt the thing fell on the floor and the disc got corrupted.
- 27:01SPEAKER_08: So we took Chris Morton completely out and uh redid it the next night.
- 27:05SPEAKER_08: So it happens.
- 27:06SPEAKER_08: It happens.
- 27:07SPEAKER_08: We're gonna get we're gonna get Morton on again and uh and we'll talk about the syndicate and stuff like that.
- 27:11SPEAKER_00: So I was just literally I was literally just gonna say, How is the syndicate?
- 27:14SPEAKER_00: I want to know everything.
- 27:15SPEAKER_08: We are just firing up the season.
- 27:17SPEAKER_08: We have a soft opening coming up um because we're going to uh a couple of middle schools on Friday.
- 27:25SPEAKER_08: We're going to play for an hour or so uh at a couple different couple different schools to talk about music education and how you can keep playing music once you're you know, you you play trumpet and you play trombone in the school band, but once you leave school, it doesn't have to stop there.
- 27:41SPEAKER_08: Um you can you can play keep playing music.
- 27:43SPEAKER_08: So that's kind of our message.
- 27:44SPEAKER_08: So we're starting that on Friday.
- 27:46SPEAKER_08: We've got a soft opening uh gig in uh Oakfield in May.
- 27:50SPEAKER_08: Maybe and then our summer season starts and we're all booked up for the summer, so we're we're pretty pumped about it.
- 27:56SPEAKER_08: We've learned some some new stuff.
- 27:58SPEAKER_08: We're gonna bring it back the old favorites and I get to play a pipe.
- 28:01SPEAKER_08: He gets to play a pipe.
- 28:03SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 28:04SPEAKER_00: Like a like you hit the pipe, like I'm yeah, yeah.
- 28:09SPEAKER_07: What song is it?
- 28:09SPEAKER_07: Not a crackpipe.
- 28:10SPEAKER_07: Not a Biden crackpipe.
- 28:12SPEAKER_07: What song is it, guys?
- 28:13SPEAKER_07: Can you think?
- 28:17SPEAKER_01: I cannot.
- 28:21SPEAKER_01: Knock three times in the middle.
- 28:25SPEAKER_08: Twice on the pipe.
- 28:26SPEAKER_08: Dink dink.
- 28:27SPEAKER_01: If the S.
- 28:28SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 28:31SPEAKER_08: Tony Orlando and Dun.
- 28:33SPEAKER_08: Knock three times.
- 28:34SPEAKER_08: Anyway.
- 28:34SPEAKER_08: Got it.
- 28:35SPEAKER_08: We'll see how that one goes over.
- 28:37SPEAKER_08: But we're we're still uh we're still having fun.
- 28:39SPEAKER_08: We're still having having a ball.
- 28:40SPEAKER_08: That's good.
- 28:41SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you guys are doing that.
- 28:42SPEAKER_00: That that is that is one of my uh uh my big jealousies.
- 28:46SPEAKER_00: I wish I was still around to jam in that.
- 28:49SPEAKER_00: You guys have a good time.
- 28:51SPEAKER_08: So we uh I don't know if you've been listening watching the thread at all, and I'll let Shane kind of talk about this because he hasn't contributed a whole lot to this conversation, and I'd like to get him in here.
- 29:00SPEAKER_08: Uh we have a new project uh that we're that is still in the planning stages, but we're pretty pumped about it.
- 29:08SPEAKER_08: Pre-planning stages.
- 29:10SPEAKER_08: Pre-pre-planning.
- 29:10SPEAKER_08: But we're pretty pumped about it.
- 29:11SPEAKER_08: I don't know how we're gonna make it work, but we're all hoping we're all hoping beyond hope that we can make it work because it it's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 29:19SPEAKER_08: So, Shane, take it away.
- 29:20SPEAKER_05: It's gonna be it's gonna be an absolute blast.
- 29:22SPEAKER_05: We've been and we've been talking about this off and on for the better part of a decade.
- 29:28SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think I think so.
- 29:30SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 29:30SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's been an idea that we've tossed around for a long time is um starting a um and purely just for us, right?
- 29:37SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a 90s country sort of tribute cover band.
- 29:42SPEAKER_05: Um yeah, yeah.
- 29:44SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 29:45SPEAKER_05: Um I'm super excited about it.
- 29:48SPEAKER_05: You know what?
- 29:49SPEAKER_05: And and and to your point, you know, because we've talked about there's some logistical things that we gotta work out.
- 29:53SPEAKER_05: We still gotta find all the players that are gonna be involved, we gotta figure out what the arrangements are gonna be.
- 29:58SPEAKER_05: Um but my favorite thing about this, I think, is going to be that um Brian had brought up, you know, I don't know how we're going to rehearse.
- 30:06SPEAKER_05: And the beauty of country music is that very, very, very few country songs fade.
- 30:13SPEAKER_05: They almost all just end.
- 30:15SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 30:15SPEAKER_05: And so as long as we all have the same recording, we can just learn the songs on our own.
- 30:21SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 30:21SPEAKER_05: And rehearsal doesn't really become as big of a deal.
- 30:24SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 30:25SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 30:25SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 30:26unknown: Yep.
- 30:28SPEAKER_00: Just do your homework beforehand.
- 30:29SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 30:30SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 30:30SPEAKER_05: Country songs start and they stop.
- 30:32SPEAKER_05: They don't fade out for the most part.
- 30:34SPEAKER_05: Pretty much.
- 30:35SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 30:35SPEAKER_05: Like most most rock songs don't really end, they kind of fade.
- 30:38SPEAKER_05: Um, and so you've got to get together, you've got to rehearse, you gotta work out endings, you gotta work out arrangements, but country songs just kind of end.
- 30:44SPEAKER_08: A C D C.
- 30:47SPEAKER_08: Sorry.
- 30:48SPEAKER_08: Um, yeah.
- 30:49SPEAKER_08: We're talking everything from um, I don't know, name some artists.
- 30:53SPEAKER_08: What's my list?
- 30:54SPEAKER_08: Clint Black, uh uh Joe Diffie.
- 30:57SPEAKER_08: Um and and and we we are potentially I I want to I want to hear two dozen roses.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: I want some Diamond Rio.
- 31:06SPEAKER_00: Yes, I want Ricochet.
- 31:07SPEAKER_00: Yes, Ricochet is on there.
- 31:09SPEAKER_05: Ricochet is on there.
- 31:10SPEAKER_00: Front porch looking in.
- 31:11SPEAKER_00: Don't even tell me you're not even thinking about that.
- 31:13SPEAKER_00: Lone Star?
- 31:14SPEAKER_05: So let me let me just run down a couple.
- 31:16SPEAKER_05: Uh so a couple Tim McGraw, Toby, Keith, Vince Gill, Alan Jackson, Tracy Byrd, Brooks and Dunn, uh, Mel McDaniel.
- 31:23SPEAKER_05: Well, I threw Mel McDaniel on there.
- 31:25SPEAKER_05: That's not really 90s country, but I love that song, Louisiana Saturday Night.
- 31:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 31:28SPEAKER_00: Uh you need that's a great song.
- 31:29SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 31:29SPEAKER_05: Um, The Tractors, Alan Jackson, uh The Bellamy Brothers, Redneck Girl, the Belly Bear Brothers.
- 31:35SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 31:35SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 31:36SPEAKER_05: Love that song.
- 31:37SPEAKER_05: Uh Little Texas, Travis Tritt.
- 31:39SPEAKER_00: Oh, Little Texas.
- 31:40SPEAKER_05: Um, Clint Black, Mark Chestnut, Dwight Yoakum, John Michael Montgomery, Sammy Kershawk, Confederate Railroad.
- 31:46SPEAKER_08: So we need a ripping guitar player, Josh.
- 31:48SPEAKER_05: So we do.
- 31:49SPEAKER_05: We need somebody who can do, you know.
- 31:52SPEAKER_00: I have chicken to pick, you know.
- 31:56SPEAKER_05: We need somebody that can do that kind of that kind of Brent Mason kind of, you know, Merle Travis kind of thing.
- 32:02SPEAKER_00: I got three or four guys that I'll send you their numbers.
- 32:07SPEAKER_08: Uh we're actually looking to uh possibly get a female singer as well, so we could do anything from Jody Messina to you know some Martina McBride.
- 32:15SPEAKER_08: Martina McBride Loveless.
- 32:17SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Patty Loveless.
- 32:18SPEAKER_08: Oh, Patty Loveless.
- 32:19SPEAKER_00: Oh, I forgot about Patty Loveless.
- 32:20SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 32:20SPEAKER_00: Oh, uh Noah Sarah.
- 32:25SPEAKER_00: Oh, Winona.
- 32:26SPEAKER_00: Winona.
- 32:27SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, dude.
- 32:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 32:29SPEAKER_00: Shania.
- 32:31SPEAKER_00: There's some uh there's some of the middle, like uh a bunch of the Shania songs are super super good if you just like strip away all like the arrangements still.
- 32:40SPEAKER_00: Um I could I could I could do a whole thing on You mean everything that Mutt did?
- 32:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah that if you just rip that Death Leopard kick drum off of a rebel record, it still sounds weird.
- 32:54SPEAKER_08: Uh yeah, I bet.
- 32:56SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I bet.
- 32:57SPEAKER_08: But we're excited about it.
- 32:58SPEAKER_08: I don't know when it's gonna happen, but uh okay, so Shane, you went off on this list of people.
- 33:05SPEAKER_10: Where is this list?
- 33:07SPEAKER_05: Uh it's on the it's in the thread, it's on Google Docs.
- 33:10SPEAKER_05: I sent it to it.
- 33:10SPEAKER_05: It is why didn't I see it?
- 33:12SPEAKER_08: He actually sent uh started a new thread uh with the with the name of the band, which I'm not sold on.
- 33:19SPEAKER_08: Uh Ryan's not completely convinced about it.
- 33:21SPEAKER_08: I like it.
- 33:21SPEAKER_08: I like the the name of the band, but I don't like putting me in front of it.
- 33:25SPEAKER_10: You're already outvoted, so don't worry about it.
- 33:27SPEAKER_10: Well it no longer concerns you.
- 33:29SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 33:29SPEAKER_05: So our our our preliminary, our tentative tentative name is Bemo and the Gandhi Dancers.
- 33:37SPEAKER_08: The Gandhi Dancers, of course, uh railroad workers.
- 33:40SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 33:41SPEAKER_08: Um I just want to Gandhi Dancers.
- 33:45SPEAKER_08: I think we should just be the Gandhi dancers.
- 33:47SPEAKER_05: I see, I want to be like so and so and the whatevers.
- 33:50SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 33:51SPEAKER_05: Okay, how about that?
- 33:52SPEAKER_05: How about so and so and the whatever's I like that better.
- 33:54SPEAKER_06: Actually, really funny.
- 33:55SPEAKER_06: Actually, I like that.
- 33:58SPEAKER_10: It's kind of like me first with the gaming.
- 34:02SPEAKER_06: Wait, hold on.
- 34:02SPEAKER_06: Pause for a second.
- 34:03SPEAKER_06: What?
- 34:04SPEAKER_06: I really like that.
- 34:05SPEAKER_06: What?
- 34:05SPEAKER_06: So-and-so and the whatever.
- 34:07SPEAKER_02: I really like that.
- 34:09SPEAKER_06: I like that better than being with the Ganeda.
- 34:11SPEAKER_06: It's going on the list.
- 34:13SPEAKER_06: So and so in the whatever.
- 34:19SPEAKER_10: Which one of them is so-and-so?
- 34:22SPEAKER_10: What?
- 34:24SPEAKER_10: Where are you going tonight?
- 34:25SPEAKER_10: So-and-so in the whatever spoon.
- 34:26SPEAKER_10: No, where are you going tonight?
- 34:31SPEAKER_08: They must be so-and-so.
- 34:32SPEAKER_08: They must be whatever.
- 34:34SPEAKER_08: Anyway, I volunteer.
- 34:35SPEAKER_00: You just tell them it's like a hootie in the blowfish kind of situation.
- 34:38SPEAKER_00: Somebody's somebody's the blowfish, but they're not in the band.
- 34:41SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 34:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be in the band to be in the band.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: You know.
- 34:48SPEAKER_05: Actually, so-and-so is our friend Josh, who lives down in Nashville.
- 34:50SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 34:52SPEAKER_05: Whatever.
- 34:56SPEAKER_05: So and so and the wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 34:59SPEAKER_05: So-and-so and the whatevels.
- 35:01SPEAKER_06: Whatever.
- 35:02SPEAKER_06: The whatevels.
- 35:03SPEAKER_06: Josh doesn't get that.
- 35:06SPEAKER_06: Josh doesn't get that.
- 35:07SPEAKER_06: I don't get it.
- 35:07SPEAKER_00: I was going to say it sounds like a subsect of a weevil.
- 35:10SPEAKER_00: I don't know what uh explain that, Shane.
- 35:13SPEAKER_05: So Josh understands.
- 35:15SPEAKER_05: I wasn't there for it, so maybe Doug should explain it.
- 35:18SPEAKER_10: Well, it was one of the it was one of the very few misspeaks that you've ever done.
- 35:22SPEAKER_08: And I jumped on it and see because I always correct Doug.
- 35:25SPEAKER_08: Every time Doug has a slip, I always laugh at him or I I I make fun of him somehow.
- 35:31SPEAKER_08: And call it out.
- 35:32SPEAKER_05: I call it out every time it does every time it happens.
- 35:34SPEAKER_08: Every time, yeah.
- 35:35SPEAKER_08: And so this is one of the times that Douglass.
- 35:37SPEAKER_10: Yeah, this was sweet revenge.
- 35:40SPEAKER_10: Because he just, I don't know what we were talking about.
- 35:42SPEAKER_10: He was like, Yeah, but whatever.
- 35:43SPEAKER_10: And I was like, Whatever.
- 35:44SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 35:45SPEAKER_10: And then I just, for like 20 minutes, Joko, I was just like, yeah, whatever.
- 35:49SPEAKER_05: It came, it was on one of the podcast episodes, and it kept coming up throughout the entire podcast.
- 35:53SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 35:54SPEAKER_08: And now Shane won't let it die.
- 35:56SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 35:57SPEAKER_08: I don't think we should.
- 35:58SPEAKER_08: I don't think we should.
- 35:59SPEAKER_08: See?
- 35:59SPEAKER_08: So and so are the whatever.
- 36:06SPEAKER_06: I like that even more.
- 36:12SPEAKER_06: Oh, geez.
- 36:14SPEAKER_08: Oh man.
- 36:15SPEAKER_08: All right.
- 36:16SPEAKER_08: Classic, classic.
- 36:18SPEAKER_08: I'm just looking to see what we are doing on time here.
- 36:21SPEAKER_08: Uh because of this new uh contraption, we're we do have to keep our our podcast a little a little shorter.
- 36:27SPEAKER_08: So a little more concise.
- 36:28SPEAKER_08: A little more concise.
- 36:30SPEAKER_08: Uh at least to a certain degree.
- 36:32SPEAKER_04: Well, you know.
- 36:33SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 36:33SPEAKER_04: Is it a disk space space issue?
- 36:36SPEAKER_04: No, it's a battery life issue.
- 36:37SPEAKER_08: It's a battery life issue.
- 36:38SPEAKER_08: It runs on double A's.
- 36:40SPEAKER_04: I should buy you a DC adapter for that.
- 36:42SPEAKER_08: Well, we're we're going to.
- 36:43SPEAKER_08: It's it's it's it's next on the list.
- 36:46SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's next on the list.
- 36:47SPEAKER_10: Um waiting for that big sponsorship from uh so-and-so and the whatever screen.
- 36:55SPEAKER_00: On tour now.
- 36:59SPEAKER_00: Hey, just so you know, you can start the merch before you even play.
- 37:04SPEAKER_00: Like, wait, nobody says you gotta play a show to have merch.
- 37:08SPEAKER_08: I have two t-shirt presses.
- 37:10SPEAKER_08: We can do it right now.
- 37:11SPEAKER_10: Tolly go right now.
- 37:12SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
- 37:13SPEAKER_00: Hey, there's a there's a limited edition.
- 37:15SPEAKER_00: Even if we don't call the band that's the so-and-so in the whatever shirt.
- 37:18SPEAKER_05: Even if we don't name the band that I just want that shirt just to wear so that people will ask me about it.
- 37:23SPEAKER_05: I'm already thinking about a design.
- 37:27SPEAKER_00: But uh, you just do that and then never have a gig, but always tell people like, yes, this nine is kind of memory.
- 37:41SPEAKER_06: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 37:42SPEAKER_08: And we take we take publicity photos of us like in our mat, our mean faces, you know, our serious faces.
- 37:49SPEAKER_08: And hey, look, it's so-and-so in the what levels.
- 37:51SPEAKER_00: I remember when they're then then I can be in the band if you can crop me in and say we've got a show coming up in a couple months.
- 37:59SPEAKER_08: I never heard of those guys, so it's uh I should check them out.
- 38:03SPEAKER_08: No, they're all over YouTube.
- 38:04SPEAKER_00: Just yeah, all over the internet, but like super exclusive.
- 38:09SPEAKER_00: Very exclusive.
- 38:14SPEAKER_09: Holy freaking egg.
- 38:18SPEAKER_05: Oh do you think do you think Jay would let us use the Shelby Hoffenheimer accordion trio?
- 38:26SPEAKER_00: That to this day is one of my favorite group chat names.
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: Heck yeah, man.
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: I still Shelley Wolfenheimer accordion trio.
- 38:32SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 38:34SPEAKER_00: Five of us five, yeah.
- 38:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 38:41SPEAKER_10: Remember the band, The Four Postman, but there was only three of them?
- 38:44SPEAKER_10: Right.
- 38:44SPEAKER_10: There were only three of them.
- 38:45SPEAKER_08: Uh Rabbit Valley.
- 38:46SPEAKER_10: Rabbit Valley.
- 38:47SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 38:47SPEAKER_10: I still love that song.
- 38:50SPEAKER_08: Uh, I don't want to end.
- 38:51SPEAKER_08: I don't want to, I don't want to, but we probably should.
- 38:54SPEAKER_08: Why?
- 38:55SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
- 38:55SPEAKER_00: Well, because it's you guys been doing the Wall of Tunes.
- 38:58SPEAKER_00: Does that you still do all that?
- 38:59SPEAKER_08: We actually haven't uh hold on a second.
- 39:01SPEAKER_08: Why why have you not been listening to the podcast, Josh?
- 39:04SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm gonna be honest, I don't listen all the time, Ryan.
- 39:09SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
- 39:10SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
- 39:13SPEAKER_05: Whatever, whatever.
- 39:14SPEAKER_05: That one download you have in Nashville is not Josh, it's from the direct.
- 39:22SPEAKER_08: Um we actually, for the past uh couple of podcasts, we've done special editions of the Wall of Tunes.
- 39:28SPEAKER_08: We did a whole Wall of Tunes on Striper.
- 39:32SPEAKER_08: Um and what was the other one we did?
- 39:34SPEAKER_05: It was it was that Sammy Hagar project.
- 39:36SPEAKER_08: Sammy Hagar because I picked up HSAS.
- 39:39SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I picked up a rare um between Sammy's solo career and when he joined Van Halen, he put an album with uh Neil Sean called HSAS, which is relatively rare, and I picked it up uh I I ordered it and it came in and we we sampled that and talked about uh how that ended up.
- 39:56SPEAKER_08: He tried to regroup planet uh HSAS and it failed.
- 40:00SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 40:00SPEAKER_08: But it ended up being Planet Us, which eventually merged into Chickenfoot.
- 40:05SPEAKER_08: So it's yeah, it's it's kind of an interesting story.
- 40:08SPEAKER_08: But uh so yeah, though that was the past couple episodes that we've done special ones, but yeah, we've been doing the wall of tunes right along.
- 40:15SPEAKER_08: Cool.
- 40:15SPEAKER_08: And we've been we've been trying to mix it up too.
- 40:17SPEAKER_08: We've been we've had some country artists, not many, but we've had a couple of country artists.
- 40:22SPEAKER_08: Country artists.
- 40:23SPEAKER_00: Have you have you gotten have you gotten hip to the Cody Johnson train?
- 40:26SPEAKER_08: Uh Cody Johnson, I love Cody Johnson.
- 40:28SPEAKER_00: You're on it?
- 40:29SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
- 40:30SPEAKER_00: I just had to be sure.
- 40:30SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 40:31SPEAKER_08: Why are you opening for him soon?
- 40:33SPEAKER_00: No, I already did.
- 40:34SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's right.
- 40:36SPEAKER_00: I did like a month with him.
- 40:37SPEAKER_00: Uh with like 10, 10 or 12 dates.
- 40:39SPEAKER_00: Actually, no, you never told us.
- 40:42SPEAKER_08: It was a different Cody that I thought it was.
- 40:44SPEAKER_08: It was a different.
- 40:46SPEAKER_08: I guess I didn't realize you opened for Cody Johnson.
- 40:48SPEAKER_08: That's awesome.
- 40:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, like nine shows.
- 40:50SPEAKER_00: They are the nicest bunch of guys.
- 40:52SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 40:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 40:53SPEAKER_00: Like truly.
- 40:54SPEAKER_00: He he's uh he's very genuinely exactly the guy like he stands in front of his bus every day for hours, just like roping a fake cow.
- 41:02unknown: What?
- 41:04SPEAKER_00: I'm not kidding.
- 41:07SPEAKER_00: Oh, can I tell you a story?
- 41:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is a good one.
- 41:09SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be the name of our album.
- 41:11SPEAKER_00: Cody Johnson in the roping fake cows.
- 41:13SPEAKER_10: No, no, something so and so in the Whatevils Roping a Fake Cow.
- 41:20SPEAKER_10: That's gonna be our first album.
- 41:21SPEAKER_10: That's gonna be our first album.
- 41:22SPEAKER_00: That's our first album.
- 41:24SPEAKER_00: Um so we played uh in in like Missouri, I think, or Lake of the Ozarks with them one night.
- 41:31SPEAKER_00: It was uh we were the first of three.
- 41:32SPEAKER_00: It was us, then Drew Parker, and then Cody Johnson.
- 41:36SPEAKER_00: And um is when I was at Jordan Rope.
- 41:39SPEAKER_00: And my we loaded the trailer, played the gig, finished, packed back up, and by the time we were packing up, it was dark.
- 41:46SPEAKER_00: And you know, we're backstage, there's no lights, it's just like we're on like a little tote road, we're just trying to load everything into this trailer real quick and go off and get going to the next gig.
- 41:55SPEAKER_00: And so we get to the next location, and I'm looking everywhere in this trailer like for my sneaker, because I was gonna go for a jog in but between the time of our uh load in and our soundtrack.
- 42:06SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to the trailer and I only find one sneaker, and I'm like, where's my other sneaker?
- 42:14SPEAKER_00: Like, what the heck happened?
- 42:16SPEAKER_00: And then I come to the realization, like, oh, you know, some must have got lost in the loadout, whatever, just got moved around.
- 42:22SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
- 42:24SPEAKER_00: One of the stage hands is just like leaning against a wall, like 10, 15 yards away, and he sees me holding my sneaker, and he's just like he just yells, Hey, I think they found one of them like that to here this morning.
- 42:38SPEAKER_00: He's like, What?
- 42:40SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Yeah, they're the shoot like that on the other side of the bus.
- 42:45SPEAKER_00: What?
- 42:45SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Yeah, go over there.
- 42:47SPEAKER_00: And so I walk around, and Cody is out front of his bus, just roping a cow, roping the thing, and my sneaker is sitting on the rear view mirror of the bus of his bus.
- 43:02SPEAKER_00: And I just like walk up, I'm in like pajama pants, and like I'm just like, where'd that shoe come from?
- 43:10SPEAKER_00: And he's like, no idea.
- 43:18SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I'm pretty sure that's my shoe.
- 43:22SPEAKER_00: And he's like, oh yeah, they just said it was here this morning.
- 43:25SPEAKER_00: I was like, all right, well, I'm that's I'm gonna take my shoe.
- 43:28SPEAKER_00: And he's like, go for it.
- 43:32SPEAKER_00: But I guess somebody must have one of the hands must have picked it up and thrown it on their bus that night during loadout and they just took it to the next city.
- 43:38SPEAKER_00: But I was like, how convenient that like the stage hand from the next venue is like, oh yeah, that shoe's over there.
- 43:48SPEAKER_00: I've never been here before, dude.
- 43:50SPEAKER_05: And you know, that's probably not the weirdest conversation that guy has ever had.
- 43:57SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
- 43:58SPEAKER_05: Oh, friggin' hey.
- 44:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was that was uh that was a weird day.
- 44:04SPEAKER_00: That was a weird day.
- 44:06SPEAKER_00: Man.
- 44:07SPEAKER_08: I bet you have a lot of really fun stories to tell.
- 44:10SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
- 44:10SPEAKER_08: That we probably don't have time for.
- 44:12SPEAKER_08: But uh another time.
- 44:13SPEAKER_00: Another time.
- 44:14SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 44:15SPEAKER_08: How uh how often do you work during the week?
- 44:17SPEAKER_08: Like are you are you playing every night or are you playing three nights a week, or what are you doing?
- 44:22SPEAKER_00: Uh between four to six.
- 44:24SPEAKER_00: I usually try to make sure I have a day off.
- 44:26SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 44:27SPEAKER_00: But normally right now I've been playing a lot.
- 44:30SPEAKER_00: Let's see the last couple days.
- 44:31SPEAKER_00: I played a double.
- 44:32SPEAKER_00: I played six to ten, ten to close, which is two thirty in the morning on Wednesday night, and then I played 10 to close on Thursday.
- 44:38SPEAKER_00: And then on Friday, I did two to six and then eight to midnight.
- 44:43SPEAKER_00: And then on Saturday, I did six to ten, ten to midnight, and then I did Sunday morning, or no, ten to two thirty, and then Sunday morning, 11 a.m.
- 44:52SPEAKER_00: to three.
- 44:52SPEAKER_00: And is it been off since Sunday?
- 44:54SPEAKER_08: Is it mostly because I saw on your uh stories on Instagram that you were you were doing the Prince song there?
- 45:00SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 45:01SPEAKER_08: So is it is it mostly covers?
- 45:03SPEAKER_08: Are you in like a lot of cover bands or are you doing original stuff?
- 45:06SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 45:07SPEAKER_00: So there's bands that I play with that do like strictly original music, which is like 641.
- 45:12SPEAKER_00: I play for a guy named Dylan Schneider, who's like a writer, and did some tour dates with him and other people, but that's primarily original music.
- 45:20SPEAKER_00: Then we tour, do opening dates.
- 45:22SPEAKER_00: Um, but when I play in town, when I'm staying, like when I'm here at my house in Nashville playing in Nashville, um, I play downtown on Brado, which is just a strip of bars, and you can basically rotate through like shift work.
- 45:32SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 45:33SPEAKER_00: Um and you know, I can work four-hour shifts.
- 45:36SPEAKER_00: There's a base pay associated with that, and then it's usually covers cover songs.
- 45:40SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you'll get an artist down there that wants you to know like an original or two, because people will request sometimes that they play original music.
- 45:47SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 45:47SPEAKER_00: Um, but a lot of the times there's like a I'd say there's like an understood 200 songs that people just know or have a fairly good knowledge of that you can get through, and you kind of just bounce around.
- 46:01SPEAKER_00: And then when you you know, everybody tends to be able to sing.
- 46:04SPEAKER_00: A lot, a lot of people can sing, so like I I can split a shift with somebody and sing for two hours, and somebody else can sing for two hours.
- 46:10SPEAKER_11: Right.
- 46:12SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, a lot of lot of covers.
- 46:14SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
- 46:14SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
- 46:15SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Shane, what else you got going on?
- 46:19SPEAKER_05: Absolutely nothing, man.
- 46:20SPEAKER_05: Same as it ever was.
- 46:21SPEAKER_05: You know, I I just I did just want to address those.
- 46:23SPEAKER_05: So we hadn't seen each other, right?
- 46:25SPEAKER_05: So we played St.
- 46:25SPEAKER_05: Patrick's Day, the three of us.
- 46:26SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 46:28SPEAKER_05: Um and it was the first time the three of us had played together since November 2019.
- 46:34SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 46:35SPEAKER_05: Right?
- 46:36unknown: Yeah.
- 46:36SPEAKER_05: So it'd been like two years since we'd made since we'd done anything together.
- 46:40SPEAKER_05: And I know Brian was a little nervous about it.
- 46:42SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 46:43SPEAKER_05: Because he's like, you know, Doug and I, when we do the acoustic thing, we typically don't have a bass player, like it's just the two of us.
- 46:48SPEAKER_05: Um and I was a little nervous about it because we hadn't played together in two years.
- 46:52SPEAKER_05: And I have to say, it was like we never took any time off.
- 46:55SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I agree.
- 46:56SPEAKER_05: I agree.
- 46:56SPEAKER_05: Yep, yeah, I agree.
- 46:58SPEAKER_05: Which is which is one of my favorite things about playing with you guys, is that uh we do the same things all the time.
- 47:05SPEAKER_05: No, but not that we do the same things because we didn't, because really honestly, that acoustic set, there were very few of the songs that we do.
- 47:11SPEAKER_11: That's true, yeah.
- 47:12SPEAKER_05: You know, uh as the normal sort of common crossing setup.
- 47:15SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 47:16SPEAKER_05: Um, so it's not that we do the same things, but it's that we all have we've played together for so long that we know exactly what the other is going to do.
- 47:22SPEAKER_11: Yep.
- 47:23SPEAKER_05: Like I can, you know, I can anticipate you and Doug, you guys can anticipate me, you know, because we all we've played together for so long, we just know each other.
- 47:30SPEAKER_08: There's a lot of eye rolling, yeah.
- 47:32SPEAKER_05: I agree.
- 47:32SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 47:33SPEAKER_00: I've always thought it's a good thing.
- 47:34SPEAKER_00: Especially between Doug and I behind you, and you can't see us, but Shane's always mentioned it, and I started noticing after Shane mentioned it, but it's super cool how like Doug, how you and Brian, how with your singing, you guys will swap harmonies and lead seam seamlessly.
- 47:51SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you don't even know.
- 47:52SPEAKER_05: If you don't know what's happening, you can't even tell.
- 47:55SPEAKER_08: Yeah, we've had a couple people that mention that to us.
- 47:57SPEAKER_08: Wendy Malefant, oh yeah, you know, she she really uh uh speaks highly of that because a lot of people she notices it because she she's a singer and she's she can she can notice it when we're doing it, but she she does also say that it's I mean, if if you weren't a trained musician, you wouldn't you you'd miss it.
- 48:15SPEAKER_08: Because his voice, his his regular singing voice sounds a lot like mine.
- 48:19SPEAKER_08: It's in the same range.
- 48:20SPEAKER_10: And I mean I'm just a master imitator.
- 48:23SPEAKER_10: And he probably could master.
- 48:26SPEAKER_00: No, you're not a master imitator, you're a master of disguise.
- 48:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what it is.
- 48:29SPEAKER_08: I don't know, and to be honest with you, I don't know why we started doing that, because you could probably you probably could sing harmony.
- 48:35SPEAKER_10: No, I I I actually don't know how to sing harmony.
- 48:38SPEAKER_10: Well, I think you do.
- 48:39SPEAKER_10: No, I don't.
- 48:40SPEAKER_10: Oh, okay.
- 48:41SPEAKER_10: Trust me, I do not know.
- 48:42SPEAKER_10: Um that is like quantum physics to me.
- 48:47SPEAKER_10: I don't understand harmony at all.
- 48:49SPEAKER_10: I I can't figure it out.
- 48:50SPEAKER_05: I never did, I never understood harmony at all until I really started digging into the indigo girls, and because I can't hit any of Emily's notes, I just always defaulted to singing Amy's parts.
- 49:01SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and that's how I sort of learned how to pick out the different notes and learned how to sing harmonies.
- 49:05SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 49:06SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I just can't do it.
- 49:08SPEAKER_10: I I'm glad you can, but I can't I just can't do it.
- 49:11SPEAKER_00: I think you guys always sound incredible together.
- 49:15SPEAKER_05: Thanks me.
- 49:16SPEAKER_05: Yeah, thanks me.
- 49:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're welcome.
- 49:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're super welcome.
- 49:20SPEAKER_00: Toy, like a toiga.
- 49:24SPEAKER_08: All right.
- 49:25SPEAKER_08: I I hate to end this, but we gotta we gotta we gotta finish uh you know, we gotta do the the wall of tunes and stuff.
- 49:31SPEAKER_08: Well, why can't we do it with these guys?
- 49:32SPEAKER_10: Well, I don't know if we can because let's just stop and you just not.
- 49:36SPEAKER_10: Oh, just throw your phone on the floor.
- 49:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's fine.
- 49:40SPEAKER_00: Hey Shane, how you doing?
- 49:44SPEAKER_08: Do we want to do the wall of tunes with these guys?
- 49:46SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I do.
- 49:47SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 49:48SPEAKER_08: I miss these guys.
- 49:49SPEAKER_08: Well, then we gotta take a commercial break because we gotta put the sponsors in there.
- 49:52SPEAKER_08: And we gotta change batteries.
- 49:53SPEAKER_08: We gotta change.
- 49:54SPEAKER_06: Is that what you want to do?
- 49:55SPEAKER_06: You want to change batteries?
- 49:56SPEAKER_06: I think we should.
- 49:56SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 49:56SPEAKER_10: Just to be safe.
- 49:57SPEAKER_10: Okay, let's do that.
- 49:58SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 50:00SPEAKER_10: This sounds like something weird.
- 50:01SPEAKER_10: So we're gonna climb the wall of batteries.
- 50:06SPEAKER_10: We're gonna why why do you have a metal emballer?
- 50:11SPEAKER_08: All right, we're gonna climb the wall of tunes with Common Crossing.
- 50:15SPEAKER_08: Next.
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- 51:29SPEAKER_08: It's uh we got Comic Crossing on the line with us.
- 51:32SPEAKER_08: Uh Josh Kovach and Shane Mountain.
- 51:36SPEAKER_08: Uh whatever.
- 51:38SPEAKER_08: So we got Josh doing now.
- 51:40SPEAKER_08: Before we do the wall of tunes, we forgot to do something here.
- 51:43SPEAKER_08: Uh, and I'm gonna make sure I got the right um music bed here.
- 51:48SPEAKER_08: Yes, it is time for the Guitar Legends Alphabet uh letter of the day.
- 51:56SPEAKER_10: All right.
- 51:56SPEAKER_08: And the letter of the day today is D.
- 52:00SPEAKER_08: D.
- 52:00SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 52:01SPEAKER_08: D is for David Gilmore.
- 52:05SPEAKER_08: Oh, there we go.
- 52:06SPEAKER_08: Prague rock would be nothing without Pink Floyd's David John Gilmore, who co-wrote classics such as Comfortably Numb and Shine on You Crazy Diamond, known for his use of wailing, delay, and echo on Fender guitars.
- 52:19SPEAKER_08: This legend was awarded an Order of the British Empire in 2003.
- 52:24SPEAKER_08: Now, uh before we go on to the drum legend uh alphabet, we want to point out we want to point out that uh everybody thought that uh Another Brick in the Wall was played on a Fender, but it was not.
- 52:39SPEAKER_08: It was played on a Gibson, which blew my mind when I learned that.
- 52:44SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 52:45SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I remember we talked about minds.
- 52:47SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I was I was I was underwhelmed.
- 52:52SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 52:53SPEAKER_10: Doug would not have cared less.
- 52:54SPEAKER_10: I really couldn't have.
- 52:55SPEAKER_10: He was because he was really excited about it, and I was like, Guys, guys, guys!
- 53:02SPEAKER_08: And then Doug said, What a moving on to the letter of the day from the Drum Legends alphabet.
- 53:11SPEAKER_10: All right.
- 53:12SPEAKER_10: D is for Dave Grohl.
- 53:14SPEAKER_10: Woohoo! The young David became a Goliath when he brought his heavy hurricane style and long hair to grunge gods, Nirvana.
- 53:23SPEAKER_10: He would later form UFO loving legends, the Foo Fighters.
- 53:27SPEAKER_10: I don't think they really actually love UFOs, though.
- 53:29SPEAKER_08: No, that's what they got the name.
- 53:30SPEAKER_00: Maybe they like the band UFO.
- 53:32SPEAKER_10: Maybe.
- 53:32SPEAKER_08: Maybe.
- 53:34SPEAKER_10: Uh let's see.
- 53:35SPEAKER_10: He would later form the uh Foo Fighters.
- 53:37SPEAKER_10: Be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and win 16 Grammys.
- 53:41SPEAKER_10: He has been described as one of the most influential musicians of the past 20 years.
- 53:46SPEAKER_10: Dave Grohl, everybody.
- 53:48SPEAKER_08: And there you go.
- 53:49SPEAKER_08: That is the Drum Legends Alphabet.
- 53:50SPEAKER_08: This was the Guitar Legends Alphabet both by Beck Finer.
- 53:55SPEAKER_08: There you go.
- 53:56SPEAKER_08: So let me let me close it out with the music.
- 53:59SPEAKER_08: Pow pow.
- 54:00SPEAKER_08: And now it's time to climb the wall too.
- 54:07SPEAKER_08: And we're gonna do that right now.
- 54:09SPEAKER_08: Doug, you're gonna close your eyes.
- 54:10SPEAKER_08: No, I'm not.
- 54:11SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you are.
- 54:11SPEAKER_08: Whatever.
- 54:18SPEAKER_10: It's like bringing back a classic.
- 54:21SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 54:22SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take off the ball.
- 54:23SPEAKER_10: That's not gonna get old.
- 54:24SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 54:28SPEAKER_05: That was very David Letterman.
- 54:34SPEAKER_05: We're gonna do a really big show.
- 54:36SPEAKER_07: I have one.
- 54:41SPEAKER_08: I don't know if we've done this artist or not.
- 54:43SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 54:45SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 54:46SPEAKER_08: Alright, so let the guessing begin.
- 54:49SPEAKER_08: You want to let one of them go for this?
- 54:51SPEAKER_08: So-and-so in the what evils?
- 54:53SPEAKER_08: How did you know?
- 54:54SPEAKER_10: Wow! First try.
- 54:57SPEAKER_08: Yes, and they're doing a Diamond Rio Classic.
- 54:59SPEAKER_08: Oh, are they?
- 55:02SPEAKER_08: Alright.
- 55:02SPEAKER_08: So, uh Shane, go ahead.
- 55:04SPEAKER_08: New guess.
- 55:05SPEAKER_08: Uh solo artist or band?
- 55:07SPEAKER_08: Uh it is a solo artist.
- 55:09SPEAKER_08: Josh.
- 55:11SPEAKER_00: Has he always been a solo artist?
- 55:14SPEAKER_08: Oh, good question.
- 55:16SPEAKER_08: He he when you when you say that, like he's always been a solo artist, but he has.
- 55:25SPEAKER_00: Does he have does he have hits with other groups like with a group?
- 55:27SPEAKER_00: Or does he have a few more?
- 55:28SPEAKER_08: I don't know that he has hits, but he has he has music with other groups, yes.
- 55:32SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
- 55:33SPEAKER_08: What genre?
- 55:35SPEAKER_08: Blues.
- 55:36SPEAKER_05: Blues.
- 55:36SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
- 55:39SPEAKER_05: Known uh for playing an instrument?
- 55:41SPEAKER_05: Oh yes.
- 55:46SPEAKER_08: Shane, it's you.
- 55:47SPEAKER_08: Oh wait, you that was Shane.
- 55:49SPEAKER_08: Josh, your your your turn.
- 55:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
- 55:51SPEAKER_00: I was thinking, uh, is it a good uh is he playing the harmonica or like the guitar or he's playing the guitar?
- 55:59SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right.
- 56:00SPEAKER_08: Doug?
- 56:04SPEAKER_09: Hmm.
- 56:05SPEAKER_09: What's his name?
- 56:12SPEAKER_01: Good question.
- 56:13SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 56:14SPEAKER_10: I'm not telling you that.
- 56:15SPEAKER_10: I know.
- 56:17SPEAKER_10: You said he's put uh what was his height of popularity?
- 56:21SPEAKER_08: Um I'm gonna say he's still very popular.
- 56:25SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 56:25SPEAKER_08: Um I'm gonna say probably maybe five to six years ago.
- 56:34SPEAKER_08: Really?
- 56:34SPEAKER_08: Would have been his height.
- 56:36SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 56:36SPEAKER_10: Interesting.
- 56:36SPEAKER_10: Not who I was thinking at all.
- 56:38SPEAKER_08: I think Josh knows who it is.
- 56:39SPEAKER_08: Shane, go ahead.
- 56:40SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Shane, your turn.
- 56:43SPEAKER_05: Um I got nothing.
- 56:49SPEAKER_05: Umassa?
- 56:54SPEAKER_06: It is Bottomasa.
- 56:55SPEAKER_06: No way!
- 56:55SPEAKER_08: Yeah, dude! It is Joan Bottomasa.
- 56:59SPEAKER_08: Uh Had to Cry today.
- 57:02SPEAKER_11: Ooh, okay.
- 57:03SPEAKER_08: Which has some uh some great tunes on it, including a remake of uh BB King Classic, Never Make Your Move Too Soon.
- 57:10SPEAKER_08: Actually, it wasn't a BB King song.
- 57:12SPEAKER_08: He did a cover of it.
- 57:14SPEAKER_08: Uh Travelin' South, Reconsider, Baby, Around the Bend, Revenge of the Ten Gallon Hat, which is a Danny Gatton tune, who is the telecaster master.
- 57:24SPEAKER_08: Um the unsung telecaster master.
- 57:27SPEAKER_08: Right, exactly.
- 57:28SPEAKER_08: And Had to Cry Today was actually a blind faith song.
- 57:31SPEAKER_08: Really?
- 57:31SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 57:32SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 57:32SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 57:32SPEAKER_08: Um Steve Winwood uh sang the original on that one.
- 57:35SPEAKER_08: This is uh this is a great album.
- 57:38SPEAKER_00: Um this is not one of my more familiar albums to me of his.
- 57:42SPEAKER_08: Um have you do you have that pulled up?
- 57:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do.
- 57:46SPEAKER_08: Um we're gonna try and play this through Joko's phone, actually, because we're using mine um for our uh I would say play anything off that.
- 57:55SPEAKER_08: Traveling South is a very fast tune.
- 57:58SPEAKER_08: Um never make your move too soon.
- 58:02SPEAKER_08: Whoa.
- 58:03SPEAKER_08: That's Traveling South.
- 58:29SPEAKER_08: Go ahead, you can talk.
- 58:31SPEAKER_08: I was gonna say he has improved as a singer dramatically.
- 58:34SPEAKER_08: I I agree, and you know, I was never a lot a big fan of his singing.
- 58:40SPEAKER_08: I I and I don't know why.
- 58:43SPEAKER_08: Um I resisted Bonhomasa for a long time because I remember remember Jay Green was really like obsessed with he was preaching the gospel.
- 58:53SPEAKER_08: He was of with Joe Bonamasa.
- 58:55SPEAKER_08: And and yeah, he was an early convert.
- 58:57SPEAKER_08: He we he had a license plate that said Bonahu.
- 59:00SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
- 59:01SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, I forget about that.
- 59:02SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 59:03SPEAKER_08: And um I resisted, I mean, I I I appreciated Joe Bonamasa and and and loved what he did, but I wasn't like over the top fan of his.
- 59:16SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 59:17SPEAKER_08: Um and then, you know, I kind of came around, and I'm still not uh because a lot I you know what I like from Bonamasa is his uh stint in um the band that he was with Black Country Community.
- 59:32SPEAKER_08: Black Country Community.
- 59:33SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 59:33SPEAKER_08: That was good stuff right there.
- 59:35SPEAKER_08: And also the funk band.
- 59:37SPEAKER_08: He did a funk band as well.
- 59:39SPEAKER_08: I can't.
- 59:39SPEAKER_00: Yep, he did that like uh um it was like uh he was playing in LA at like the baked potato.
- 59:45SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I can't remember the name of it, but it was like funk party or something.
- 59:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 59:50SPEAKER_00: He's had a couple like side projects that have been super cool.
- 59:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like he was in a band early on in his career called Bloodline with uh one of the children of one of the kids from people from the doors, yep, and they put out two albums, and there's a couple tunes on that that are just like cooking.
- 1:00:04SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:00:05SPEAKER_08: Um and and and his the the stuff that he puts out is great.
- 1:00:09SPEAKER_08: I'm not uh but a lot of it just sounds the same to me.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_08: It's uh it's the same formula, you know.
- 1:00:16SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 1:00:16SPEAKER_08: I got his newest album, and it's great.
- 1:00:19SPEAKER_08: It's it's but I've heard it before.
- 1:00:21SPEAKER_08: Do you know what I mean?
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's it's it's like an ACDC album.
- 1:00:24SPEAKER_08: Um yeah, to a lesser extent.
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_08: A C D C really put out puts out the same album every single time.
- 1:00:30SPEAKER_08: But you don't care.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_08: You don't care, you don't care because you like AC DC, you're right.
- 1:00:34SPEAKER_08: Rolling Stones, same way, you know.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_08: I mean exactly what you're gonna get.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and there's you know, there's nothing wrong with that as an artist.
- 1:00:41SPEAKER_05: I would think you know, it's like ordering a bud light at a bar.
- 1:00:44SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's like ordering a bud light at a bar.
- 1:00:45SPEAKER_05: You know exactly what you're gonna get.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_05: Yep, and you do like that's what you expect.
- 1:00:50SPEAKER_08: Yes, yes, and there's there's also nothing wrong with stretching out a little bit.
- 1:00:55SPEAKER_08: Um, you know, I mean, I don't like I used to love Bon Jovi.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_00: Oh I used to how weird is that we were just talking about this in the break, Shane.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_08: Were you really?
- 1:01:05SPEAKER_00: Literally your headphones were off, and I was like, Have you seen videos of Bon Jovi singing recently, Shane?
- 1:01:10SPEAKER_08: And it's bad, isn't it?
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_08: It's not good.
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:01:13SPEAKER_08: It hasn't been good for a long time.
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_08: Well, what I'm saying is I used to be a huge fan of Bon Jovi, mostly for Richie.
- 1:01:18SPEAKER_08: But but I liked John too, and I like the songwriting and everything.
- 1:01:22SPEAKER_08: And, you know, there's a thing about, you know, finding a band, and like you said, you know what to expect, you know what to expect.
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_08: Um, and then there's also nothing wrong with trying to stay relevant uh and and and trying to try you know spread your wings and try something new and go in a different direction.
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_08: You're not gonna keep everybody Yeah, you're not gonna keep everybody when you do that.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_08: Um and Bon Jovi didn't keep me.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_08: I mean I still like their catalog for the most part, except for like from what is it, 2005 on.
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_10: Well, after that, uh it's my life song.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_05: I'm I you know what I even still like all that stuff too.
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_05: I you know what I mean?
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_05: Like there's absolutely nothing wrong.
- 1:02:03SPEAKER_05: To your point, like the music evolves and changes, and it should, it's supposed to.
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, it has to, right?
- 1:02:08SPEAKER_05: Or otherwise it would just be stale and stagnant.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_05: Um, I don't I don't mind that at all.
- 1:02:12SPEAKER_05: I I kind of enjoy when artists sort of you know take a hard left, right, you know, and and all of a sudden it sounds completely different.
- 1:02:19SPEAKER_05: You're kind of like, oh, okay, all right.
- 1:02:21SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know.
- 1:02:22SPEAKER_00: Well it's cool to see that they're like multifaceted too.
- 1:02:25SPEAKER_00: You know, I I you like you like your one trick pony as much as the next guy, you know, you're gonna go see you're you're gonna go see to your effects A C D C because it's A C D C and it's gonna rock your mind off and you're pumped about it.
- 1:02:36SPEAKER_11: Right.
- 1:02:37SPEAKER_00: But also there's something cool about going to see somebody that's gonna blow your mind, like you go see Sting, or like you know, somebody like that's multi-faceted, multi-instrumentalist, different you never know.
- 1:02:46SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:47SPEAKER_08: And that's and that's that's great.
- 1:02:49SPEAKER_08: I mean, they're both valid, you know.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_08: I mean, it's uh you can't really argue.
- 1:02:53SPEAKER_08: You like what you like, you do like what you like.
- 1:02:55SPEAKER_05: Because that's the whole thing.
- 1:02:56SPEAKER_05: Some music is subjective, right?
- 1:02:57SPEAKER_05: So for one of us to sit here and say, Oh, you're wrong about that, yeah, you're wrong about that.
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_05: It doesn't.
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but what if you're blatantly wrong, Shane?
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_00: What if you're blatantly wrong?
- 1:03:15SPEAKER_08: Yeah, uh, yeah.
- 1:03:17SPEAKER_08: So uh back to Joe.
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_05: So I have to say, like Bonamasa, I am peripherally aware of Bonamasa because of you guys and because of Jay.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_05: I've never listened.
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_05: I don't own an album, and I've never listened.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_10: Well, you he just had a uh I I happened to be flipping through the channels uh a week or so ago, and he had a concert on PBS.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they do that a lot, actually.
- 1:03:40SPEAKER_08: PBS plays a lot of people.
- 1:03:41SPEAKER_08: But it was bothered.
- 1:03:43SPEAKER_10: Yeah, no, it was he was outside.
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_10: It was looking he was like in front of some sort of like castle.
- 1:03:48SPEAKER_10: Red rocks.
- 1:03:48SPEAKER_08: Was it red rocks?
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_10: No, no, it was like there were like buildings because red rocks is a rock.
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:03:53SPEAKER_10: I saw buildings, so it wasn't red rocks.
- 1:03:55SPEAKER_08: Well if you can't if you whatever.
- 1:04:01SPEAKER_08: You have to give Bonhoma credit for the empire that he has built, though.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_00: That was what I was gonna say.
- 1:04:06SPEAKER_00: If you can't even just get down with him as a musician, if you go into looking at what he did as a businessman, yeah, oh for sure.
- 1:04:13SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 1:04:14SPEAKER_00: It's it's very respectable.
- 1:04:16SPEAKER_00: He's built a, like you said, an empire and uh like a lot of philanthropy work as well, you know, some of his foundation work has been really, really awesome too.
- 1:04:25SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 1:04:26SPEAKER_08: Uh it's not the blues music foundation, but it's the blues alive keeping the blues alive, yeah, which is doing a lot of good good things uh to do just that to keep the blues alive.
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_08: And he is he is an ambassador for the blues for sure.
- 1:04:39SPEAKER_08: Um and he would be, you know, like remember when Stevie Ray came in out in the eighties and he was like carrying the torch for for contemporary blues music and everybody was following uh Stevie Ray Vaughn.
- 1:04:50SPEAKER_08: Well, uh Joe Botamasa kind of did the same thing in the two in the 2000s, you know.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_08: I think he he kind of grabbed that torch and ran with it.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_00: I think there was a couple guys.
- 1:04:59SPEAKER_00: I don't think you can give it just to him.
- 1:05:01SPEAKER_00: I think you have to talk about Johnny Lang and John Mayer if you're gonna do that at the same time.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I don't know if I do it.
- 1:05:06SPEAKER_08: I don't know if I don't know if I put Johnny Lang in there.
- 1:05:09SPEAKER_08: Johnny Lang was awesome and is awesome.
- 1:05:11SPEAKER_05: He was a little earlier too.
- 1:05:12SPEAKER_05: Johnny Lang and Kenny Scuber were about the same time in the U.S.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_05: Probably in the 90s.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_08: Yeah, in the 90s.
- 1:05:17SPEAKER_08: Yeah, okay.
- 1:05:18SPEAKER_08: But John and John Mayer, um, I think of John Mayer as a pop artist who plays amazing blues guitar because a lot of the stuff that he does is pop music, and there's nothing wrong with that.
- 1:05:30SPEAKER_08: But you're but you're right though.
- 1:05:36SPEAKER_05: And it doesn't get more pop than that.
- 1:05:38SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 1:05:38SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_08: But when he came out with the the the um trio album.
- 1:05:43SPEAKER_08: Tribe.
- 1:05:44SPEAKER_08: Yeah, the trio album, which with uh with um Pino Paladino.
- 1:05:48SPEAKER_08: Pino Paladino and Georgia, yeah.
- 1:05:50SPEAKER_08: Uh and and then he I think he actually says it.
- 1:05:53SPEAKER_08: No, maybe it's the maybe it's the concert in Los Angeles where he says, uh, I th I let's just pause for a Second, because I just started a slow blues and the crowd went crazy.
- 1:06:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the 2007 where the lightest is a very good thing.
- 1:06:15SPEAKER_08: I think John John uh Joe Bonamasa um w uh uh I don't know.
- 1:06:21SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
- 1:06:22SPEAKER_00: I'm traditional he's a traditionalist, I guess.
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_00: In more of the sense of it.
- 1:06:25SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:06:26SPEAKER_08: But this is a great album, and I didn't want to take away from that album, but uh um the ten Danny Gatton's ten gallon hat, uh Revenge of the Ten Gallon Hat, you should listen to that Joko because um well Danny Gatton was a t was a um country telecaster player.
- 1:06:44SPEAKER_08: He's like a finger finger or uh chicken picker.
- 1:06:47SPEAKER_08: Um and and and people in guitar circles know who Danny Gatton is.
- 1:06:52SPEAKER_08: Terrifying.
- 1:06:52SPEAKER_08: Yeah, not many people outside of guitar circles remember who Danny.
- 1:06:56SPEAKER_08: He he passed away.
- 1:06:57SPEAKER_08: Not many people remember who he was, uh, but he's an amazing.
- 1:07:02SPEAKER_08: It was an amazing, amazing player, like mind melting uh guitar player.
- 1:07:07SPEAKER_00: I think Brent Mason cites him as like his main influence.
- 1:07:10SPEAKER_08: I think so too, yeah.
- 1:07:11SPEAKER_00: And Brent Mason is insane.
- 1:07:13SPEAKER_00: And yeah, you've heard Brent Mason probably more than you've heard any other guitar player in your life.
- 1:07:16SPEAKER_08: That's true.
- 1:07:16SPEAKER_08: Yep, that's absolutely true.
- 1:07:18SPEAKER_00: Brent Mason, Tim Pierce, but Steve Lucarther.
- 1:07:21SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:07:24SPEAKER_00: Uh here we go.
- 1:07:25SPEAKER_00: Mike Landau.
- 1:07:26SPEAKER_00: Uh gospel according to Luke.
- 1:07:30SPEAKER_05: So I still don't have that book.
- 1:07:31SPEAKER_05: I did just pick up Dave Grohl's uh book the other day at Bull Moose.
- 1:07:35SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I'm still not finished.
- 1:07:36SPEAKER_08: It's so good to start that.
- 1:07:37SPEAKER_08: It's awesome.
- 1:07:38SPEAKER_08: I'm more than three quarters of the way through.
- 1:07:41SPEAKER_08: I just haven't had time to finish.
- 1:07:43SPEAKER_05: I have a week off between the end of the spring semester and the start of the summer semester.
- 1:07:47SPEAKER_05: I have one whole week.
- 1:07:48SPEAKER_05: Nice.
- 1:07:48SPEAKER_05: Um, so maybe I might get a start on it then.
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_08: I have next week off, so I might finish it then.
- 1:07:52SPEAKER_00: So I got a Prince book I'm working through right now.
- 1:07:55SPEAKER_08: Nice.
- 1:07:56SPEAKER_08: I have the gospel according to Luke.
- 1:07:57SPEAKER_00: This well, I have it.
- 1:07:58SPEAKER_08: I was just gonna say, I think I lent it to you.
- 1:08:00SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I have it.
- 1:08:01SPEAKER_08: I was gonna lend it to Josh, but he was supposed to send me an attenuator and he never did.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_08: So yeah.
- 1:08:09SPEAKER_05: I think he still has the um I think he still has the fantasy football trophy, too.
- 1:08:14SPEAKER_05: The last place trophy.
- 1:08:16SPEAKER_10: It's actually in Woodland.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_10: Oh, is it?
- 1:08:21SPEAKER_08: You know what we should do?
- 1:08:22SPEAKER_08: We should videotape ourselves going to his parents' house and saying, Do we have the trophy?
- 1:08:28SPEAKER_08: Is that the attenuator right there?
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 1:08:30SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 1:08:31SPEAKER_08: Okay, so hold on.
- 1:08:32SPEAKER_08: Since then, since then, Joko, just a second.
- 1:08:35SPEAKER_09: Oh shoot.
- 1:08:44SPEAKER_00: What do we have?
- 1:08:45SPEAKER_08: Have you ever seen one of these?
- 1:08:48SPEAKER_08: Uh from JHS.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_08: Uh yeah, JHS.
- 1:08:52SPEAKER_08: JHS pedals.
- 1:08:53SPEAKER_08: Is it does this do the same thing that does?
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 1:08:56SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so I don't need you.
- 1:08:58SPEAKER_00: Ouch! Man, that's cold.
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_00: But I I wash my hands of the guy.
- 1:09:04SPEAKER_08: But I will tell you that once Doug is done with the Steve Lukarther book, I will send it your way.
- 1:09:08SPEAKER_00: Okay, thank you.
- 1:09:09SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 1:09:09SPEAKER_08: It's a good book.
- 1:09:10SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:09:11SPEAKER_00: I really want to read it.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_00: I really uh I think there's a lot of stories there that are probably really good.
- 1:09:16SPEAKER_00: Just some cool insight too from just what he got to see.
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_08: And I and I think I've I've said this before.
- 1:09:21SPEAKER_08: Uh it's he says right in the beginning of the book he doesn't want to be the want to write a book where he name drops, you know, all the people that he's played with.
- 1:09:29SPEAKER_08: But that's exactly what it's like.
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it's just like you have to.
- 1:09:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but also how can you not?
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's played.
- 1:09:35SPEAKER_00: Who he worked with is just who he worked with.
- 1:09:37SPEAKER_08: And I I think it makes him all the cooler, to be honest with you.
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_08: It's it's yeah.
- 1:09:41SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:09:41SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_08: So anyway.
- 1:09:43SPEAKER_08: Uh so that is the Wall of Tunes album of the week.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_08: Joe Bonamasa had to cry today.
- 1:09:54SPEAKER_08: What year did that come out?
- 1:09:55SPEAKER_08: Hold on a second.
- 1:09:56SPEAKER_00: 2004.
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_08: Boom.
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_08: 2004.
- 1:09:58SPEAKER_08: Look at that.
- 1:10:00SPEAKER_08: Joe Co.
- 1:10:00SPEAKER_08: on it.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_08: And it does have the blue stuff.
- 1:10:04SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_05: I will listen to that this week on my commute.
- 1:10:09SPEAKER_08: Yeah, please do, because it's it's pretty stinking cool.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_08: Uh he has he's had better albums, but it's I th I there's a well, there's a ballad on there called Around the Bend, which is which he also did on another bottom asset, Slow Gin.
- 1:10:23SPEAKER_08: He did a version is a great song.
- 1:10:25SPEAKER_08: He did a version of Around the Bend on Slow Gin as well.
- 1:10:29SPEAKER_08: Uh this is a this is a different version.
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_08: Uh great song.
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_08: Uh original song, I believe.
- 1:10:34SPEAKER_08: Sweet from Joe Bottomass up.
- 1:10:35SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 1:10:36SPEAKER_08: So uh that is the Wall of Tunes uh album of the week, and we should probably wrap this puppy up.
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_08: Um I'll take it.
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_07: I'll take it to go first.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_08: Fabulous Thunderbirds quote.
- 1:10:49SPEAKER_08: Thank you.
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_08: Thank you.
- 1:10:53SPEAKER_08: You were the only one, Brian.
- 1:10:55SPEAKER_08: I appreciate you.
- 1:10:57SPEAKER_08: All right, dudes.
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_08: Uh, we appreciate you hanging out with us.
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_08: We miss you, we love you, and um best of luck in all your future endeavors.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_10: Well, thank you so much.
- 1:11:09SPEAKER_10: Did you just sign my yearbook?
- 1:11:12SPEAKER_00: Have a big channel.
- 1:11:13SPEAKER_00: Can't wait to see you next year.
- 1:11:14SPEAKER_00: See you next year.
- 1:11:18SPEAKER_00: Enjoy the lake.
- 1:11:23SPEAKER_06: All right, dudes.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_06: I'm sure we'll be in touch.
- 1:11:26SPEAKER_08: We'll we'll we'll be in touch.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_08: We'll we'll we'll write you in the thread.
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_00: Hey Joko, you gonna be home anytime soon?
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 1:11:33SPEAKER_00: Um my sister just had a baby, popped the bun out of the oven, so I'm gonna come up and uh do that.
- 1:11:40SPEAKER_00: So let us know when.
- 1:11:42SPEAKER_00: I will.
- 1:11:43SPEAKER_00: I really, really want to get together with you guys.
- 1:11:45SPEAKER_00: So let you guys know as soon as I know.
- 1:11:47SPEAKER_00: I won't it won't be until after May, just because like we got people coming the whole month just to visit and all that whole thing, but I'm trying to get up.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_08: So yeah.
- 1:11:54SPEAKER_08: Let us know uh when you're up and uh we'll we'll do something.
- 1:11:58SPEAKER_00: Sounds good.
- 1:11:59SPEAKER_00: For sure.
- 1:12:03SPEAKER_08: I need an adult.
- 1:12:05SPEAKER_10: Straight art.
- 1:12:06SPEAKER_08: In the meantime, uh let's keep working on uh so and so and the what else.
- 1:12:10SPEAKER_08: Yes, I really like it.
- 1:12:13SPEAKER_00: If nothing else, I want a t-shirt.
- 1:12:18SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna get on that.
- 1:12:22SPEAKER_08: All right, gentlemen, all right, fellas.
- 1:12:24SPEAKER_08: Have a great day.
- 1:12:26SPEAKER_08: Good and guard.
- 1:12:29SPEAKER_08: Have you guys see ya?
- 1:12:31SPEAKER_08: So that was fun.
- 1:12:32SPEAKER_08: Ah, it's good hanging with the boys.
- 1:12:33SPEAKER_08: It is good.
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_08: It's hanging with the boys, yes.
- 1:12:35SPEAKER_08: It's always a good laugh.
- 1:12:37SPEAKER_10: I I don't think anybody can really appreciate unless you've hung out with us as a band.
- 1:12:42SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I agree.
- 1:12:43SPEAKER_10: You know, like backstage or even just like playing or you know.
- 1:12:47SPEAKER_10: My my always favorite part of hanging with those guys is like before you know, like like before the show.
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_10: It was like before the show and after we set up when we're all just kind of like sitting there, like like we go out to eat, or yeah, you know, we're just hanging out, you know.
- 1:13:01SPEAKER_10: And we would that that's basically what this podcast was.
- 1:13:05SPEAKER_10: It was just like us between load, you know, loading in, setting up, and sound checking and the show.
- 1:13:09SPEAKER_10: Yep.
- 1:13:10SPEAKER_10: That was that that was basically what we would do.
- 1:13:12SPEAKER_10: For sure.
- 1:13:12SPEAKER_08: So and I missed that.
- 1:13:14SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you know, so me too.
- 1:13:15SPEAKER_08: Me too.
- 1:13:16SPEAKER_08: Um and we'll get there again.
- 1:13:18SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah.
- 1:13:19SPEAKER_08: At some point.
- 1:13:19SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:13:20SPEAKER_08: Well, Joko will be up here for for something and we'll have a gig and maybe Shane Shane will come up and yeah, and we'll see he'll he'll they'll sit in.
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_10: Well, Shane will play, yeah, but Joko will sit in and sit in, but he, you know, he's our he's our lead guitar player for life, as far as I'm concerned.
- 1:13:36SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 1:13:36SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_08: Yep, yep, yep.
- 1:13:39SPEAKER_08: Alright, well, there's we we said it was gonna be a fun one, and we weren't wrong.
- 1:13:43SPEAKER_08: That was a good one.
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_08: That was uh Whatever Season five, episode 21.
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_08: Uh, and it is actually uh the 99th episode of O'Brien and Darby, the podcast.
- 1:13:56SPEAKER_08: So until next week.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_08: 100.
- 1:13:59SPEAKER_08: Next week.
- 1:14:00SPEAKER_08: 100.
- 1:14:00SPEAKER_08: We're hoping to have our our buddy Bob on.
- 1:14:03SPEAKER_08: Bobbert.
- 1:14:03SPEAKER_08: And uh it should be good.
- 1:14:05SPEAKER_08: We'll we'll have a good time.
- 1:14:06SPEAKER_08: Are we really gonna talk about the birds and bees?
- 1:14:08SPEAKER_08: No, I was just I don't know.
- 1:14:09SPEAKER_10: I still think we should still call it that though.
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_10: The birds and the bees with Bob?
- 1:14:12SPEAKER_10: Yeah, because that's just fun to say.
- 1:14:14unknown: Okay.
- 1:14:14SPEAKER_10: Like so-and-so in the what evils.
- 1:14:17SPEAKER_08: I'm I like that better than Bemo and the Gandhi.
- 1:14:19SPEAKER_08: I actually do too.
- 1:14:20SPEAKER_10: I'm actually, I'm actually been I've been I've been converted.
- 1:14:24SPEAKER_10: So and so on the what evils.
- 1:14:26SPEAKER_10: So-and-so what evils it.
- 1:14:30SPEAKER_10: That's awesome.
- 1:14:31SPEAKER_10: That's so awesome.
- 1:14:33SPEAKER_08: Be on the lookout for so-and-so on the what evils.
- 1:14:36SPEAKER_10: Coming to a country bar near you.
- 1:14:38SPEAKER_10: Not the music, but the merchandise.
- 1:14:39SPEAKER_10: The merchandise.
- 1:14:41SPEAKER_10: We're like the spinal tap without the music.
- 1:14:44SPEAKER_10: And the dead drummer.
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_10: Right.
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_10: Drummers.
- 1:14:47SPEAKER_10: Hopefully.
- 1:14:48SPEAKER_10: Hopefully.
- 1:14:49SPEAKER_07: Fingers crossed.
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_07: All right, everybody.
- 1:14:53SPEAKER_07: Um O'Brien and so-and-so.
- 1:14:57SPEAKER_08: What's up?
- 1:14:59SPEAKER_09: Bye, everybody.
- 1:15:00SPEAKER_09: Bye-bye.
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