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Drive Thru News #58 - The Le Mans 3-peat! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Uh, all right, Brad, well bring us in.
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Welcome drive through episode
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Automobile Automobile.
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This is one of my favorite episodes of the year.
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Why?
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Why is that?
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Because it's June, we get to talk about.
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The 24 hours of incredible time.
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This is the pinnacle of racing, the best racing on television, the best event of
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the year, the most spectacular spectacle.
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I'm sorry, I thought the pinnacle of racing was Formula One.
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What's the exact opposite of Pinnacle?
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The pinnacle and the pinnacle.
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Oh, there it.
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There it is.
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There it there.
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It's.
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Our new segment.
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Our new segment, the Pinnacle and the Pitiful.
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Well, we have a guest in the house tonight.
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He foreshadowed a little bit sooth saying maybe he had some magic juju.
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He rubbed the Ferrari emblem a little bit last week.
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It's a wonderful thing to have so many creators on the Motoring Podcast
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Network in studio with us tonight.
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William, big Money Ross.
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Here to celebrate Ferrari's victory.
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Good evening.
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Ooh, listen to you.
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Yes.
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This isn't William Ross, who, who is this guy?
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He doesn't sound all nasally and doesn't sound like he's talking
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through a sewer pipe or something.
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Yeah.
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For everyone listening, I finally stepped up and got a new microphone.
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We love it.
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We love it.
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All right, let's talk about, let's talk about the 24 hours of Le Mans.
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Oh man, what a weekend.
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William.
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You must be a proud papa as a Ferrari Papa Threepeat three in a row.
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The hat trick.
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Well, yeah, I mean it's awesome to see that, but I think the real cool
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thing is that they, of course, the team won with Robert Kizza at the Wheel.
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Yeah, I think that's just, that's awesome.
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For everything he's been through.
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It's come full circle 10 years ago, signing for a fer ride.
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Then he had his accident in the rally car and now he comes back and you know,
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he wins Le Mans and that being a private tier team, that was awesome to see.
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Well earned.
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It was really.
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Cool to see.
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It looked like for a second there, what was there like two hours to ago, three
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hours ago, when all of a sudden he's saying about having a box, something
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with the air tube or something.
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Yeah.
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And it just couldn't do something with it or something like that.
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I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
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Suck it up.
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Drive, you know, it is.
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Just get there and make it happen.
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I mean, on one side.
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Yeah.
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Hey, after s scootering, it wouldn't have been a 1, 2, 3
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because someone got disqualified.
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It was good to see Porsche bringing it.
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Penske getting thwarted again.
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Two in a row for them too.
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The Indy 500, they got DQ for, we'll call it, modified their vehicle
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outside of the specified parameters.
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Not cheating, but you know, modifications.
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Yeah.
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Something along those lines.
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However you wanna legalize it.
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Let's talk about Kizza for a second.
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Brad.
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Tanya, you know about this accident, right?
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Have you seen the videos of what happened to him?
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No.
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Uh, it's been a long time.
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I know I. He almost died, was pretty severe.
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I think he hit a tree or something.
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I know he broke his leg very severely.
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So this was back in the days when, what would today would be like the
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WRC two cars, like the VW Polo and the Skoda and the Seas and all those that
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they had running back Then he spins and hits basically a guardrail and
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the guardrail comes through the car.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's absolutely horrific when you see the pictures of it and everything.
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It's like completely fluke too, of all the things to hit.
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Yeah, just nutty.
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Absolutely nutty.
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So he's been back in the driver's seat for quite a while, so to go
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from that, you know, near death.
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Experience to winning Le Mans.
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That's a heck of a story.
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Yeah.
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I mean his hand is basically unusable.
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Anyways, that's the one thing that's, so he is literally basically driving
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with one hand, you know, he can use it, kind of push things around so that, but
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they gotta modify stuff 'cause it's just basically a dangling appendage there.
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That's what makes all that much more impressive.
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He was able to come back from that and he's driving at this top level.
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Just goes to show how easy it is to drive a car with a floppy paddle gearbox.
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Yeah.
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'cause that was back older.
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That wouldn't happen in no way.
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So I agree with you.
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You know I watched a good portion of the race later into the race 'cause I had
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obligations with the A CO and the Symone event and all those kinds of things.
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But what I did watch sporadically through the weekend, I had this moment,
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I was talking to some folks while we were there at the viewing party.
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You know, they were talking about Porsche versus Ferrari and this
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and that and you know, cars and the automotive engine and I'm like, look.
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You have to realize Porsche, Ferrari, they're a league above
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everybody else because we're seeing two of the finest engineering
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companies in the world going at it.
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Not just car companies, but engineering companies.
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And so to see them duking it out and then 9 63, unfortunately
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it doesn't have the legs.
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They haven't figured it out after all three, four years now of
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development and good for Ferrari.
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That's all he kept saying was for Ferrari, they need to win this.
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And they need to go out on a high stop after this year 'cause Ford
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is coming and you don't wanna set yourself up like Toyota has done the
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last couple years where it's just been this downward spiral where it's
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evident that Toyota was running with no competition for a very, very long time.
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Well, I think the one thing Penske or Porsche has that issue with that
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car is, and I could be wrong, but having to basically make that usable
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or qualify for both sides of the pond.
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Yeah, I mean you got totally different scenarios in regards to tracks that you're
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running an INSA than you are to we, yeah.
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You got street, all these crazy ass stuff they do over here that those cars
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aren't meant to be on that kind of track.
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First of all.
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I mean on some of these courses here in the United States, it doesn't make sense.
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But I think that could be the issue in regards to what they can't.
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Because it's gonna be give and take.
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Alright, do you want to have it for that or you wanna have it for that?
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What do you wanna win?
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And I hear differing opinions on that.
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'cause we had Jordan Taylor on as part of evening with the legend and he said the
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Cadillac that they were running, which the Wayne Taylor car didn't do as good
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as they had projected, but he was like, the setup really isn't that different.
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They have a different arrow package for Le Mans because it's so much
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straighter and so much longer.
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So they can do more speed.
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But then again, they're speed limited.
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They're sort of capped around 2 10, 2 12 on the upper end of speed anyway.
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But the card that they have there is the same card that they run over here.
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You know, the Cadillac, VLMP, dh, whatever all the acronyms are now.
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Yeah.
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No difference.
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I keep making the argument that the 9 63 is not a Porsche.
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People are like, oh, what do you mean it's a Porsche?
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I'm like, what of it is a Porsche other than the sticker between the headlights?
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It's a Delara chassis with an Audi power plant and a oh, but the magic juju.
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And I'm like, yeah, whatever.
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BM BMW is a Delara.
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The Cadillacs at Delara, the Ferrari, the winning Ferrari is a Delara chassis.
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Yes.
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You look up and see on that little one-off they built for Mr. Roger
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Sil, whatever his middle name is, Penske, it's not really road legal.
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Mm-hmm.
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Per se.
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They got special dispensation from government's, whatnot, to drive it.
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But I thought that thing was pretty killer.
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And everyone's talking about is that gonna be the next Halo car?
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Right.
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But to your point, you're like, no, because it really can't,
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because it's not really a Porsche.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's just name badge only.
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That's what you get with the regulations.
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I mean, that's what you're gonna have.
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So I wanted to ask Tanya, I know secretly you were rooting for
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the PEO and the nine x eight.
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I mean, what's going on?
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Them and Alpine.
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I, I, yes.
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I know they're not gonna do anything, but I would love to see the PEO finish better.
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I thought when they debuted that car and they debuted it without a rear
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wing, so without had downforce, it's just like you guys are buck wild.
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Why are you doing this?
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But then they were actually, they weren't even terrible.
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It all kind of fell apart I think in kind of the last quarter, second
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half of the 24 hours and more towards the last quarter of it.
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But I felt like they were hanging in there without a rear ring.
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They let a couple laps, didn't they?
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They did.
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Like they were hanging.
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It almost looked like, oh my gosh, are these guys gonna pull it off?
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And I don't know since then, and I really think it's cool looking peo I agree.
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I think sweet.
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They said there were more cars on the same lead lap than there'd like
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ever been in quite a long time.
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So I think that's where you're getting at Tanya, that even the PEOs
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were still in the lead lap, even though they were behind like, you
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know, 40 seconds or whatever it is.
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It is a three and a half minute lap after all right.
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There's a lot of delta there.
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But yeah, I root for them too as the underdog.
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And they did come up with a really slippery car and then
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they realized that didn't work.
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So then they had to put air foils all over it, which has
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significantly slowed them down.
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Alpine.
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I'm still scratching my head.
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They're like, get it together.
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Well, I hope to see them do better and.
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I guess we also have to look out for the magma.
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Oh no, it's back.
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Brad, look at this thing.
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But did anyone catch the reveal at Le Mans?
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No.
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'cause we hardly saw any of the race.
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Right.
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But apparently they were, team magma was revealing their.
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Future L-M-P-D-H hypercar.
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It looks like it's on fire.
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You know, it's a really cool paint job.
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I will give it that.
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Is that the Cadillac with the Genesis badge on it?
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Yes.
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I mean, I know that's an option.
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Like you could just get your chassis in your body from Dara and that's that.
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But it looks an awful lot like the Cadillac.
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They don't give details other than V eight engine, hybrid system, yada, yada, yada.
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Oh, I love this.
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The racing team's decision to employ a V eight powertrain, which was
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designed basically by combining two of Genesis 1.6 liter turbo four cylinder.
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That's like straight outta Audi's playbook.
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We need a V eight.
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We got two 16 vow Rocco engines.
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Boom, we got a V eight now.
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Here we go.
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There you go.
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And so these are based on the WRC engines.
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Hopefully they're not using the Hyundai hybrid system that's in the rally cars,
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'cause those are notoriously unreliable.
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So hopefully they'll get their MGU from somebody else.
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Uh, they don't really talk about yet some of those specifics, so I
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guess we'll have to watch out for it.
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Obviously they're putting the bug in everyone's ear.
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So will it be.
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Officially debuted on track next, Lemone next year, I guess Time will tell.
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They do say they're gonna try to be competing in next year's we races.
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What's McLaren running in theirs?
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I know they debuted theirs too.
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Yeah, that's right.
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McLaren was talking about coming back as well.
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I know they dropped a curtain on that thing as well.
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Also, I believe had a show of that.
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Can we Photoshop the McLaren badge on this car?
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'cause it probably looks very similar.
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It probably, yeah.
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In Orange.
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So it's getting confusing.
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Well, you know, and going back to talk about the eo, that's what's great about
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that car is they didn't copy, they didn't like, Hey, we'll take this into, I mean,
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they just went start from scratch and just went at it and I mean, and the car kudo
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to them and then for sticking with it.
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Yeah, they end up having to add all the arrow and stuff like that after the fact.
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But you know what, that's some.
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Kaho to jump out and what they started with, what are they saying is they're
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hoping, was it by 2027 that they said they should be winning or something like that?
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Of course, everyone, you know, all teams say that, oh, in
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two years we'll be winning.
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Yeah.
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You know, and same with lp, but you know, LPLP, that's just the whole cluster.
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You know what, all across the board, all the racing departments.
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So what year is the 9 63 gonna win?
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Um,
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the, the classic.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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There we go.
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There we go.
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That makes sense.
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Or historics.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Never until it's a full fledged factory effort.
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Never.
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Well, that's just it, right?
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Corvette was the last holdout.
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They were the last factory team, and now everything is private
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tier, quote unquote works cars.
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And it's just like, okay, maybe we'll see.
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But you know, that's another thing I noticed in the GT class, whatever
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GTLM, it used to be back in the day, they didn't get a lot of coverage.
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This Le Mans either, they focused a lot on the LMP one class, you know,
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all the big cars, the hypercar.
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At one point, I think I might have asked you, Tanya, I was like, are
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there even any Corvettes running?
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'cause I don't even remember seeing them on tv.
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It was like, and then I spotted the red one and I was like, oh, there
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is a Corvette running at Le Mans.
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There's a couple, weren't there?
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There three?
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Yeah, there were, but they were just, nobody was paying attention to them
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because no one pay attention to anything.
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They're privateers, right?
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So you're just like, eh, whatever.
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Who cares?
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It's all Pratt Miller.
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Yeah.
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I was a little surprised by that.
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'cause you know, usually you have your better racing.
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In that class that's going on 'cause they're banging on each other and
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going at it from drop of the flag.
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I was a little surprised by that.
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They weren't paying much attention to it as intently as they normally do.
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And then there was a big battle that somehow we all missed it.
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That happened in the GT three class.
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That's what it's called now.
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Right?
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Between Porsche and Ferrari.
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And that ended with Af Corsa in second place.
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Yeah, man.
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Tie one.
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Exactly.
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But that was a good battle.
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But they hardly ever showed it on tv.
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It was like, it was ridiculous.
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Well, the one unfortunately in the, uh, other class, Valentino
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Rossi's team that he's running with those BMWs, I mean, they're good.
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I mean, he can drive, there's no doubt about that.
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And that's a strong team.
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And it sucked if they got knocked out like they did.
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Yeah, that was unfortunate.
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That would've been cool to see him win at Le Mans in a car.
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That, that'd been a great story.
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Well, that happened last year too, where they got knocked out
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or the car broke or something.
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So that's two years in a row.
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Disappointment for Valentino Rossi.
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That's unfortunate.
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But hey, got another year to go.
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Well, I mean, how old is he?
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46. Four.
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Four.
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Three.
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I mean, he's still young.
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He's got plenty of time.
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He's not as old as Alonzo.
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So he is still got time.
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Oh yeah.
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Plenty of time.
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He's older.
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He's actually, I think he's older 'cause he is 46.
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Lies.
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Lies Alonzo's, like 62 years old.
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Come on now.
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Alonzo's only 43.
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Oh, I don't believe that at all.
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So I'm gonna throw this out there for you guys to debate.
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We know that WEC is multi-class racing.
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We know that IMSA is multi-class racing, but when you get to Le Mans and
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you start looking at LMP one GTP, whatever it's called this week, right?
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L-M-D-L-M-D-H, yada, yada, yada, yada.
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But that's why it gets confusing because inside of P one you have like
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four other classes running together.
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You know, hypercar, hybrid LMP one, and then you've got stuff normally aspirated.
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Not that you like the acid mark and Valkyrie.
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So there's this sort of weird mixed class at the top of the totem pole.
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And so we even talked about it this weekend.
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Should they regulate P one or make it an unlimited class?
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Brad, what do you think?
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Unlimited.
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Tanya has popcorn in her mouth.
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I have no comment on this.
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What?
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How she's reserving her comments for F1.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, yeah, that, yeah, we'll get to that.
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So William, GTP.
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What do we think?
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Should it be an unlimited class?
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Let 'em just do what they're doing.
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Unlimited.
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Go nuts.
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Let the engineers go wild.
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Yes.
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Put the, uh, accountants away and let the engineers go crazy.
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Yeah, just say, alright, here's your energy capacity.
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That's it.
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Let everything else just go nuts.
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Like in the seventies, five liter.
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Yes.
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Do whatever you want after that.
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Do whatever you want.
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Open up your checkbooks and have at it.
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Or, I mean, if you cap it, I mean, hey, you know, it's let,
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let the engineers go crazy.
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I think that level, that's what that should have.
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I mean, yeah, there's a couple things here and there.
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Maybe trickle down 10 years after the fact in the road cars, but I
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mean that's your premier racing and reality is the manufacturers getting
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into it is all about the powertrain.
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It's not about the car, it is just about the engine.
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The powertrain here, have that experiment.
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Do what you want, bam.
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There you go.
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There's your reliability test, everything like that.
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So I think that's what they should do is just figure out some engine
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parameters, stick with that.
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Then let everything else just go nuts.
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I will say that VE Creek sounds amazing, right?
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And I think there were a lot of people rooting for that and they got DQ
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right away, like back of the pack, back with Penske and they were done.
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They're like, who bears?
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Yeah.
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At that point, I don't even remember what the infraction was that caused
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them to start at the back of the pack, but I was like, that's pathetic.
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I'm like, really?
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Too awesome.
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That sounds very French brat.
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Too awesome.
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Back at the pack.
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It's too awesome.
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They should have made him a honorary garage 56 card and then
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they could have won their own class and it would've been all right.
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Was there a garage 56 car?
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No.
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That's so seldom that they do that.
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It's gotta be something really ridiculously different.
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Like a Camaro.
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Well, yeah, like NASCAR car, NASCAR Camaro.
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Yeah.
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Alright, so the GTPP one field keeps getting bigger.
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Like this is the biggest, it's been in a long time.
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Not as big as the seventies and the eighties, where you basically
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had two classes running at Le Mans prototypes and nine 30 fives.
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That's pretty much what the seventies boiled down to.
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It's getting bigger and they're talking about more brands coming, right?
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Hyundai slash Genesis Ford's coming.
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And then we were talking about it like, when is the shoe gonna fall
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and Mercedes is gonna throw in a car?
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And then, you know, Lambos supposed to have a car that qualifies in that class,
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not just in GTD, if that's the case.
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Brad, your favorite class.
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You know Jackie Chan's gonna be sitting only in those grandstands.
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He is not gonna be able to campaign an LMP two car.
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Are you okay with that?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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It's like pop quiz.
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Which class gets the least amount of TV coverage during
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a Le Mansr race Over 24 hours.
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LMP two.
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I'm personally not sad.
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If LMP two goes away, it would be cool to make LMP two a support race
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where it's like they run for maybe four hours or six hours the day before
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or something, you know, whatever.
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Just get 'em out of the way.
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But if the P one class gets so big, there's just not gonna be enough space.
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Or we gonna have like 90 cars running at Le Mans.
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How is there not enough space?
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It's an eight mile track.
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How many cars do they fit on Watkins Glen?
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Like what's, what's the ratio?
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How many cars per mile?
17:18
20 per mile or something.
17:19
Okay, so, so 20.
17:20
Yeah, so at that point, so, okay.
17:24
Was that 160 cars?
17:25
We got plenty of space then.
17:26
Yes.
17:27
Just keep adding, bring back P three as well.
17:28
We'll be all right.
17:29
I don't know.
17:30
I personally would like to see P two go away just because
17:33
they don't get enough love.
17:34
And it would be cool to have like a dedicated coverage just for them
17:37
and get excited about a spec race.
17:39
'cause that's what it is.
17:40
They're either orcas or they'res.
17:42
And the power plant is like Gibson or Judd.
17:44
It's very watered down to like, this is the formula and that's it.
17:47
And then, you know, none of the drivers really get any airtime really.
17:50
And at the end you're like, oh wow, somebody won P two.
17:52
Like that's fantastic.
17:53
This sounds like a support race for a NASCAR race.
17:56
Gibson and Judd.
18:00
You got a Gibson in there or Judd?
18:02
I got the Judd in mine.
18:03
Oh, we got the Gibson over here.
18:05
Yeah.
18:05
Right.
18:05
I mean, what is the point of LM two?
18:08
I mean, what, what is the point?
18:09
And I could be wrong.
18:10
Sort of like almost like a feeder system into the bigger classes.
18:14
That exist, like the hypercar and GTP and all that.
18:17
But it also helped keep the racing sort of going when there were only Toyota and
18:22
Toyota and Toyota, there was nobody else.
18:25
But I think the LMP two class was strictly a cash grab for the gentleman drivers.
18:29
You know, that's not far off.
18:31
No, they, they needed to fund it somehow.
18:33
Are there any gentlemen, drivers qualified to run in P one?
18:36
I think they all have to be platinum, right?
18:37
I would hope you to be platinum at that point, but you can't be
18:40
a bronze driver at that level.
18:42
I have to check the rule book.
18:44
I mean, like to think, yeah, I can't think of any gentlemen drivers.
18:47
'cause even Ben Keating ran P two and GT cars.
18:52
That's the only thing he's been able to do as a gentleman.
18:54
Driver and I, I don't think anybody is able to run P one if
18:57
they're not like a pro driver.
18:58
Yeah.
18:59
I don't know.
18:59
Well, like I said, Toyota, Toyota, Toyota.
19:01
Let's talk about Cadillac for a second.
19:03
Another car that sounds fantastic.
19:06
Not as good as Aston, but it's damn good.
19:08
It goes back to qualifying hyper pole, all that stuff.
19:11
Was Ferrari and Porsche sandbagging?
19:13
Is that what we've concluded here?
19:15
I don't think so.
19:16
They even admitted that Cadillac was, you know, over one lap was fast.
19:19
It was just sort of long distance runs.
19:21
So I don't know what happens to the car if I'm doing one lap to say doing lap 20 on
19:27
it tires, you know, those things last, how many stints they were doing on the sets.
19:30
I mean, nothing's changed on that car from, you know, one lap to 10 laps.
19:34
So I, I don't know.
19:35
I guess maybe they were, I don't know.
19:36
I don't think they were.
19:37
But if you're looking at a big picture, who gives a shit about hyper pole?
19:41
Just the race win that you want.
19:43
I mean, as long as you're starting up front.
19:44
Well, and that's just it, right?
19:46
Cadillac's on the pole, and by the first pit stop it's like.
19:50
Ooh, see all later, 14th spot, like, what the heck happened?
19:53
Like completely fell apart.
19:54
And that's where I was.
19:55
And to your point, unlike a Formula One race where we try to win by the first
19:59
corner, in most cases, Le Mans is not one in the first corner or the first lapper
20:03
in the first hour because it's all day.
20:06
You really gotta stretch those cars out.
20:07
And you're right about the tire stents.
20:09
They were saying Porsche was doing 13 laps per stent, and then
20:12
they're triple stining the tires.
20:14
So they're getting well rounded down to 36 laps on a tire, which
20:18
that's a lot of miles at nearly nine miles, you know, on a set of slicks.
20:22
That's pretty damn good.
20:23
You know?
20:24
They're really making the use out of that rubber.
20:26
Yeah, that public school math.
20:27
Yeah.
20:27
36 laps.
20:28
That's why Brad's my number guy.
20:33
Yeah.
20:33
Well, you know, I mean, maybe the fact was too, just in traffic, that
20:37
thing, especially in the beginning, your first few hours, you're so
20:39
clustered, it just wasn't there with it.
20:41
It couldn't, who knows?
20:42
But yeah, it was a little bit surprising that it dropped off that much that fast.
20:46
Yeah, it was a bit surprising.
20:48
It was.
20:48
So, I don't know if you guys noticed or not.
20:50
This was the first Le Mans since 22.
20:54
It hasn't rained during the race.
20:56
It was a completely dry race, which unfortunately, in my
20:59
opinion, made it kind of boring.
21:00
Yeah.
21:00
Wet weather always adds a little excitement to things.
21:02
A little spice.
21:03
Yeah.
21:04
Even a night racing, because it was so dry, was just like, oh, okay.
21:07
Yeah, whatever.
21:08
They're just go doing lap.
21:09
Wow.
21:10
Well, let's just hope it's dry in two weeks.
21:12
Yes.
21:12
Oh, so speaking of the classics, I got some inside baseball from people
21:16
that were at the viewing party.
21:18
They were telling me that the way classic is formatted, so we were under the
21:21
impression they're just gonna send out.
21:23
Everything from the chitty chitty bang bang to, you know, the
21:26
Mazda 7 87 B. And they're just gonna run for 24 hours straight.
21:29
No, no, no, no, no.
21:30
It's all broken up.
21:31
There's all these car corrals, like where all the Porsches are parked.
21:34
And then the Porsche members come and then they said there'll be Ferrari
21:37
parking, lots of four or 500 cars alone.
21:39
So they said you can spend all day just looking at cars in the parking lot,
21:43
let alone what's going on on track.
21:44
And then what they do is they break it down like Goodwood, and they run them
21:48
by classes for a certain period of time.
21:50
And so certain classes run during the day, and then other ones only run at night.
21:55
And so they run cars throughout the 24 hours nonstop, but they're going
22:00
out on track and they're coming in and doing all that kind of stuff.
22:03
Yeah.
22:03
And I've seen how that was getting set up, which I thought was, it's nice because
22:06
you get to see everything run and you can see the different, everything like that.
22:09
And 'cause like they only run for like two hours or four
22:12
hours per something like that.
22:13
Which is nice too is 'cause then the break you have between them, you know, all
22:17
their stuff getting separate like that.
22:18
I, I don't know.
22:19
I'm excited for it.
22:19
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
22:20
That's gonna be sweet.
22:21
So you mentioned the Ferrari threepeat at the beginning.
22:24
Congratulations to them, but not gonna talk about the
22:27
disqualification of the number 50 car.
22:29
That's your job.
22:30
What's up?
22:30
Did you know that it was disqualified?
22:32
I heard about it today as a matter of fact.
22:35
So the number 50 car, which finished in fourth place, apparently got
22:38
disqualified for being unsafe.
22:41
Or possibly having an unfair speed advantage because four bolts
22:46
were missing from the rear wing.
22:48
Yeah.
22:48
Did you start reading into it?
22:49
It's like, huh?
22:50
And it's like, okay, so four bolts were missing.
22:53
It was unsafe, and yet the car drove for 24 hours without anything happening.
22:58
Okay.
22:58
Yeah.
22:58
So let me explain how this collusion works.
23:02
Okay.
23:04
The fact that the 51 car did that ridiculous pirouette
23:09
going in into the pit lane.
23:10
Remember that?
23:11
Where they were like, they weren't sure if they were gonna give him a penalty or not.
23:15
They had just given Sebastian Bourdain a penalty for doing the same thing.
23:18
You know, running over the white line.
23:19
Pure GUI comes in, smoking, hot into the pit, locks it up, spins it around,
23:24
you know, hits the curb, all this stuff.
23:26
And then nobody says a word.
23:27
You know, he comes in the pit, changes his tires, goes back out.
23:30
Everybody's just, they're like, oh man, we're gonna get like a, you
23:32
know, whatever, ten second penalty like they would do in Formula One.
23:35
And they went the whole race and nobody said anything.
23:38
The officials were like, it's under investigation, blah, blah, blah.
23:41
And then.
23:41
There was never any talk about it ever again.
23:43
And we were watching the official feed from France, so you're getting all
23:46
like the extra stuff coming through that versus the televised stuff on HBO.
23:50
Okay.
23:51
So they went radio silent on the Ferrari and I think this was their opportunity.
23:55
They found something else and they said, ah, we didn't get you the first
23:58
time because you know, we couldn't, but now we're gonna get you and
24:01
we're gonna get you really good.
24:02
So collusion.
24:05
On the car that didn't do it.
24:06
Yeah.
24:06
Well, and apparently too, I, the claim I guess is like the final 37
24:11
minutes is where this all matters.
24:13
And it was lapped 380 of 387 Oh my God.
24:17
Where it made its highest top speed and therefore the loss of those
24:21
bolts, the deflection of that wing, allowed it to, they were falling back.
24:26
They got no competitive advantage.
24:28
They were in fourth place for crying out loud, does it even matter?
24:31
Fourth place and falling back.
24:34
I don't know.
24:35
I mean, rules are rules.
24:36
I get it.
24:36
I think Christian Horner made a phone call.
24:42
He hates Ferrari so much.
24:44
He made a phone call, he was watching the race.
24:46
He's like, this is unfair advantage.
24:48
That's awesome.
24:49
Check the bolts.
24:50
He sent a text message.
24:51
Check the bolts.
24:52
Was that before or after?
24:53
Called 'em up.
24:54
Asked em if they wanna take F spot on the, oh yeah.
25:00
As we kind of tail out the Le Mans talk.
25:02
And we're gonna talk a little bit more about the related
25:04
motorsport here 'cause we need to do a little comparison shopping.
25:07
Let's talk about the sione event.
25:08
Tanya, you came up for a good portion of the first day and uh, what did you think?
25:13
Uh, it was a good event.
25:15
I was a little bit surprised actually.
25:17
Maybe I shouldn't have been, I don't know.
25:18
But by the number of people that were there, I'm surprised how many people know
25:23
of the place, I guess, and maybe that's not fair to them, but it's definitely a
25:26
hidden gem, I think, because very few, if basically anyone else does live demos
25:32
of historic vehicles, basically, right?
25:35
Only other one that's like, this is revs.
25:39
Down in Florida.
25:40
I think that's pretty interesting and it's more attention grabbing for people than
25:43
just kind of walking around and reading a placard next to a car and moving on.
25:46
So, um, it was nice to see that number of foot traffic that went through.
25:50
I think there's potential in the event to be.
25:55
Something more.
25:56
I know it's their third year running it, so hopefully every year.
25:59
I didn't participate in the first two years, so I don't know
26:01
how this compares versus those.
26:03
Hopefully it's been a somewhat of a step change progress, kind
26:07
of better and better every year.
26:09
But yeah, I would probably go again.
26:11
So let me hit you with some staggering numbers.
26:13
According to my sources.
26:16
Because remember people rolling in and rolling out.
26:18
Yes.
26:18
It's really hard to keep track of Yes, it was who was there and who wasn't there.
26:22
And every time they did a demo, the chairs that they had set up, they were full.
26:26
And then there are people outside.
26:27
There's people watching the race, there's people walking around.
26:29
I mean, just people everywhere.
26:30
So somewhere between 800 to a thousand people rolled through in 24 hours.
26:34
Wow.
26:34
That many, and I didn't realize this because you know, we were doing our
26:38
little thing at the A CO booth and talking to potential members, why
26:41
should I join and what's the club about?
26:43
And they even gave us, you know, 15 minutes up on stage to talk
26:46
about and promote the club.
26:47
And I did that with one of our fellow club members and whatnot.
26:49
We had 60 new registrants.
26:52
Oh, sweet.
26:52
That's outstanding.
26:54
So it was like, when did that happen?
26:55
We made it easy for people.
26:56
Here's a QR code, fill out the form, put in your credit card.
26:59
Boom, you're a member, you're done.
27:00
We obviously helped some people do that, that were struggling a little
27:03
bit with, you know, their cell phones or whatever, but I was like 60.
27:06
I was like, holy smokes.
27:08
That's incredible.
27:09
The intent wasn't to really necessarily be a membership drive,
27:12
but that's awesome for the a CO to grow like that, you know, in one day.
27:16
Yeah, that's huge.
27:17
That's a great statistic there to have that happen.
27:20
That says a lot in regards to one, the interest and it's
27:24
gaining momentum, but two.
27:25
I think the venue helped immensely too, as compared to last year.
27:29
Yeah, I should have got in my car and drove there Friday night.
27:31
I told you it was doable.
27:33
Pouring rain Saturday didn't even go.
27:36
Oh man, it was raining.
27:38
It was like, I mean, coming down buckets, I just, I go, I ain't going.
27:40
I was like, I should have got my damn car and drove, it's like son of a bitch.
27:43
We had off and on rain and I got handed to the curators at the Sione Foundation.
27:48
Come hell or high water, they are running those cars outside.
27:51
Cars are coming in, soaked it.
27:53
They left a GT 40, mark two parked outside most of the day just sitting
27:57
out in the rain, like whatever.
27:58
And then at one point the hippie, nine 17 was out there
28:01
with it just sitting out there.
28:02
And then they bring it in when they, you know, when they needed to.
28:04
And there was some prototype Ferrari, two 50 pontoon fender,
28:08
which I've heard estimates anywhere between 20 and $50 million in value.
28:12
And they're like, yeah, they took that thing out like three, four times.
28:15
They're running around 50, 60 mile an hour.
28:17
And it's like.
28:17
You're killing me.
28:19
But it's good to see a museum that, to Tanya's point isn't static.
28:23
Yes.
28:24
Everything else is just model cars in a big box.
28:26
Do, does Simone have, um, land around there where they can expand the outdoor,
28:31
because I know they do it in the parking lot, they do it, but it's not that big.
28:34
So I don't know if there was actually room where they could potentially grow.
28:37
It could be cost prohibitive.
28:39
There's a train that runs directly behind the parking lot.
28:42
Oh, all right.
28:43
Yeah, that won't help.
28:44
Amazon owns the other side.
28:45
So unless they give up their lot, which apparently is huge, then they got nothing.
28:49
And they're sandwiched in between other businesses.
28:52
Yeah, it's back behind basically Philly airport.
28:55
Well, the great thing is, is they're continue on and growing.
28:58
Even after he passed, you see a lot of these things, the person that
29:01
was driving force behind it, pushing it, but the money, everything like
29:03
that, they died and it closes up.
29:05
We'll get, you know, um, what's her names?
29:07
They had all those plans for all the, you know, over Chester
29:10
in England, all that stuff.
29:11
And he dies and.
29:12
Everything.
29:13
Sell it all.
29:13
Yeah.
29:14
So that's good to see.
29:15
To your point about acquisitions, they just acquired another car.
29:18
They added one to the collection, they revealed it Saturday nights, 1952 Nash.
29:23
It was the car that won the first 12 hours of Seabring.
29:26
I tell you what, it's gorgeous.
29:28
It's this pewter gray.
29:30
It looks so sharp.
29:31
It's got the typical Nash race car with the triple headlights shaped like
29:34
a triangle in the front, you know?
29:36
So it kind of makes that shape.
29:37
It's nice.
29:37
Straight six sounded so good.
29:39
I was like, oh man, they just ran that thing out there for
29:42
a while and then bring it in.
29:43
And they actually used that car in the morning to like wake everybody.
29:46
They literally drove it around the inside of the museum to like wake everybody up.
29:50
It's like, what the heck is going on?
29:52
No, that's awesome.
29:53
I'll be there next year and well, you know, and because you
29:56
weren't there, I didn't get a chance to really take any video.
29:58
We were so busy doing other stuff and then finally like, Hey, I want 10
30:02
minutes to watch the race, you know, do this eat, and all that kind of thing.
30:05
I did take the time to film the Hippie nine 17, and so that'll be in the
30:10
show notes for people to check out.
30:11
That car is just.
30:12
So cool.
30:13
And then on top of it all, to have one of its previous owners there to
30:17
talk to people about it, to talk about it, experiences and this and that.
30:20
And then we had him up on stage.
30:21
We had Harley Clarkson, the owner of Mirage, that's all the golf live cars,
30:25
like the GT 40 behind you and all that.
30:27
We had him there to do a live evening with a legend, which is usually,
30:31
you know, our private Zoom sessions that we do with the A CO members.
30:33
So that was really cool.
30:34
It was a packed house for that too.
30:36
It was like, where did all these people come from at seven o'clock at night?
30:39
That was awesome.
30:40
So unfortunately I didn't take as many videos.
30:42
We've got a bunch of photographs and stuff we can share, but very cool experience,
30:46
even if you've never been there before and you don't wanna wait till next
30:50
Le Mans look at their demo schedule, pick something that resonates with you.
30:53
'cause they'll do four or five, half a dozen cars and you get to kind of see how
30:57
the museum works on a basic level, and then just extrapolate that out to four or
31:02
five cars every other hour for 24 hours.
31:05
I mean, it's just.
31:06
Constant motion at the museum.
31:08
Set it up.
31:08
Let's go.
31:09
Got plenty of time this summer.
31:10
Set it up.
31:10
I'll be there.
31:12
I got the map and everything already on my phone.
31:15
I'm down to clown William.
31:17
I'm ready anytime you are.
31:19
Alright.
31:20
Ferrari, three peas at Le Mans.
31:22
How come Ferrari Formula one can't build a car.
31:25
That's worth a damn.
31:26
I'm just gonna lay it out there.
31:37
F1 is getting very, very boring.
31:40
You don't say especially watching Monaco.
31:42
That's just a joke.
31:43
Charles Aire, however you wanna pronounce his name, Charles, whatever, he'll
31:47
never be anything other than angry.
31:50
Yes, angry.
31:50
Angry.
31:51
Little Frenchman.
31:51
I'm sorry, manganese or whatever he pronounce that mangas.
31:55
I think Louis Hamilton's passed his prime new regulations come in next
31:59
year and it's either hit or miss.
32:00
'cause then you're always chasing it.
32:02
But it's whoever can nail it right outta the thing is gonna win.
32:05
I mean, look what Mercedes did.
32:06
And all of a sudden, now it's Red Bull came into it.
32:07
Now all of a sudden it's McClaren.
32:09
McClaren just got it, refined it and nailed down the little things to it.
32:13
But now all of a sudden, next year, it's completely new regulations.
32:15
You know, I always look at both sides and say, well, you know, if you
32:18
look at qualifying that it's either no more than second or second half
32:22
between lap times and everyone's always in 10, 10, this and that.
32:25
But then you watch the race and everything spreads out and just why
32:28
they can't get their shit together.
32:29
And I just can't believe that they would get rid of Asur that quickly.
32:32
Yeah.
32:32
And put it all on him.
32:33
Come on, whoever nicked the idea of bringing Newie and not just,
32:37
oh, here, here's the checkbook, Adrian, how much you want?
32:40
Whatever you need, get it.
32:41
Why they didn't sign him.
32:42
I don't know.
32:43
Someone's ego got in the way.
32:45
They didn't wanna have him there.
32:46
And I don't know if it was au, whoever it was, but that was a huge F up on their
32:51
part for not getting Adrian Newey huge.
32:54
Especially next year, Aston Martin comes out and starts just crushing it.
32:58
Heads will roll because that'll just prove the point.
33:00
I mean, as we all know, Adrian knew he is just, you know, he's the man.
33:03
That's that.
33:03
And they'll have Honda engines, so they'll have the power, how
33:06
they can still call themselves.
33:07
Aston Martin is beyond me.
33:08
I mean, so Tanya, you have this meme here.
33:12
It's not a meme, it's a quote.
33:13
Who's saying this?
33:14
Fred Vaser apparently.
33:16
And who is he referring to himself?
33:17
I don't know who the one thing is.
33:20
Is it the car at this point?
33:21
The motor.
33:21
Why don't you read it for our audience?
33:23
'cause they're not looking at this.
33:24
Fred Vaser is quoted as saying we must ask ourselves the right questions.
33:29
If Ferrari hasn't won for years.
33:31
We've changed the team principle, the drivers, we've changed everything.
33:35
Except one thing is that his resignation like.
33:38
What is that?
33:39
Well, he's the principal that's changed, so they've already done that.
33:42
I don't know.
33:42
Is it higher ups in Ferrari?
33:45
I think he's talking about their mentality, I would think.
33:48
But I mean, obviously there's more than that that needs to change.
33:50
But the problem with Ferrari is they're so bureaucratic in regards to
33:53
how they run everything internally.
33:55
It's.
33:56
Horrendous.
33:57
How is the Le Mans team?
33:58
How are the 4, 9, 9 P guys getting away with it?
34:00
They built a killer car three years in a row.
34:03
You said it already.
34:04
They're not a factory team.
34:06
They're a private tier.
34:07
Mm. And if they poach the guy that's running that now and put him in charge,
34:11
get rid of Aser and put him in, then Okay.
34:13
Then there goes your Le Manss team.
34:14
They're done.
34:15
Yeah.
34:15
If they're trying to say that's the case, then they both suck.
34:18
Yeah.
34:18
Then they're both bad.
34:19
That's why I said Ferrari has to leave Le Mans after this year.
34:23
They need to stop and go out on a high three in a row.
34:26
You know, wait another 52 years to come back and just call it a day.
34:30
I feel like that's cowardly lying.
34:32
They can't do that.
34:33
Ford's coming in next year.
34:34
They've gotta go against Ford.
34:35
They have to.
34:36
We need a new movie.
34:37
Ford V. Ferrari, part two.
34:39
Part two.
34:39
It'll be like hot shots.
34:40
Part part two.
34:41
Yeah, part part two.
34:43
Hot shots.
34:44
Part two.
34:45
That's awesome.
34:46
The second one, as long as it doesn't end up like Highlander Part two.
34:50
Nevermind.
34:50
Like the naked gun.
34:51
Two and a half or whatever it was.
34:53
Oh, there is a new naked gun coming out.
34:54
Let's not go there.
34:55
Yeah, right.
34:56
Oh, sweet.
34:57
Don't search for that on the internet kids.
34:59
So let's talk about Monaco just a little bit longer.
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Although it doesn't need any more airtime than it's already gotten.
35:05
The drivers hate the race.
35:07
The fans hate the race.
35:09
Why are they still racing there?
35:11
Other than that quote?
35:12
It's Monaco.
35:13
And who gives a crap?
35:15
What's that Musical?
35:16
Tradition.
35:17
Tradition.
35:18
Bitler on the roof.
35:19
Yeah, there you go.
35:21
I don't even think it's got anything to do with tradition.
35:23
I think it's money.
35:24
Oh yeah.
35:24
Now moving the date too.
35:26
They're changed all up.
35:27
Not gonna be on Memorial Weekend anymore.
35:29
Yeah, just a cash grab.
35:30
Yeah.
35:30
I mean, that's what it boils down to, you know, using that excuse.
35:33
Oh, it's traditional.
35:34
Oh, there's, yeah, Tanya said Everyone hates it there.
35:36
Drivers hate it.
35:37
Teams hate it.
35:37
The cars are too big, there's no passing, there's nothing.
35:40
And they tried to make it more interesting by forcing additional
35:44
pit stops and it did nothing.
35:46
Yeah, it did absolutely nothing.
35:47
It did not change the order of anything.
35:49
It made worse.
35:49
That should have been a no pit stop race.
35:51
Just get it done.
35:52
And there should have been blue flag black flags for people that were just worse
35:57
than parade lapping and holding people up.
35:59
Like get outta the way.
36:01
I think for Monaco, I think they should.
36:03
Yeah.
36:03
Like Eric said, no pit stops and then remove all FIA regulations.
36:07
Just let 'em go.
36:08
Just the the, the Mad Max race.
36:10
That would be awesome.
36:11
Thunderdome and every 10 laughs.
36:13
They gotta switch cars with their teammate.
36:14
They gotta jump in each other's car.
36:15
That would make it way better be like Formula E. In the old
36:18
days, they gotta switch cars.
36:20
Yeah.
36:20
And they, they should start a reverse grid.
36:22
There we go.
36:23
Ooh.
36:24
And then maybe every 20 laps the drivers get out and fight.
36:29
They get out into a fist fight.
36:32
If they did reverse grid, that might be the only opportunity.
36:34
Lance Scroll will ever win a race.
36:37
Lance scroll.
36:38
Lance school, if they would've reversed Grided, Monaco,
36:42
Antonelli would've been first.
36:44
Ah, that's true.
36:45
Haass could get a win.
36:46
If they reversed grid, it'd be amazing.
36:48
They still wouldn't get a win.
36:49
I'm impressed with Haass this year, I have to say, like they're
36:51
kind of middle of the pack.
36:53
There's no reason to really make fun of him anymore.
36:55
And there's other teams where you're like, all right, Salberg is just
36:58
there waiting for Audi to take over.
37:00
And Aston Martin's pathetic.
37:01
And Williams is sort of, again, fighting in the middle, so
37:04
I can't really say too much.
37:06
But the ones I poke the most fun at is Ferrari, and it's
37:09
heartbreaking every race.
37:11
Is pathetic.
37:12
I don't understand their dog shit.
37:13
Slow.
37:13
That's all I can say.
37:14
I don't unders like DRS wide open drafting somebody and you
37:19
still can't get around them.
37:20
Oh, which race was it?
37:21
Catalonia?
37:21
I don't remember, but I know you didn't believe me for the longest time
37:24
when I said the Ferraris are slow, like there is a problem with them.
37:28
And then you saw it when it was like Hamilton versus LeClaire and
37:31
the DS Open couldn't pass them.
37:33
LeClaire couldn't pass Hamilton with the DRS open.
37:36
What are you talking about?
37:38
Yeah.
37:38
And then you see like whoever the hell else has with their DRS open
37:41
and they're like, shoot by somebody.
37:43
It's like, what is that?
37:44
It's an air break instead of like a speed up.
37:47
It was team orders.
37:48
Yeah, they get on the radio, let him buy Why Made sense.
37:52
You know why?
37:53
Because you end up like Lando in Canada.
37:55
That's why.
37:56
Oh, what a knucklehead.
37:58
What was he thinking?
38:00
That guy is.
38:01
His own worst enemy.
38:02
And he chokes.
38:04
He chokes.
38:05
What a knucklehead.
38:06
Yeah.
38:06
Where do you think you were going?
38:08
Yeah, that was a eye racing move.
38:11
Like he was suddenly gonna have traction and space on an island
38:14
that is the size of Brad's shoe.
38:16
Well he, he must have thought pry was just gonna move over for him.
38:19
'cause Ptri held his line.
38:21
He didn't move to the left, he didn't pinch him off.
38:23
He was in a position and he held that position and then he thought
38:26
he was just gonna fit in half the size of a Formula One car.
38:30
Maybe he thought he was gonna pull that.
38:31
Uh, what that guy did, the NASCAR move where he just.
38:33
Pinned it against the wall and just pinned it and went around.
38:35
He figured you just slammed the wall and go, no, no.
38:37
Like the cars movie where he bounces up and then he flips
38:41
over and lands on the other side.
38:42
Yeah, that would've been great.
38:43
Yeah.
38:43
There we go.
38:44
Fantastic.
38:46
James Bond stuff.
38:47
Ugh.
38:48
Canada was boring.
38:49
Just like Monaco because it's too small.
38:51
It's too tight.
38:52
It's just one car width wide.
38:55
I mean, it's just.
38:55
Ugh.
38:56
That's another one that, it's tradition.
38:58
They run Canada.
38:58
'cause they, they have to have a Grand Prix in Canada, I guess.
39:01
Well I thought they were getting away from that track.
39:03
I thought they were supposed to go, um, where to Mosport.
39:06
I, I thought they were moving away from the island for that reason.
39:09
'cause one going racing, two accessibility.
39:12
'cause it's a nightmare in regards to Yes.
39:14
There's only those two ways or one way to get on and off that island.
39:17
Well, and you gotta get bused on.
39:18
Yeah.
39:18
You can't park there.
39:19
There's no grandstands.
39:21
Well there are grandstands.
39:22
Stop saying that you saw them compared to Dakota.
39:25
There's like no grandstands.
39:27
There's like nothing.
39:28
There might as well be three chairs and 10 people like
39:30
playing, you know, musical chairs.
39:32
Yeah.
39:32
I always thought they were moving it to downtown or something like that.
39:35
They're gonna do action.
39:35
Oh, that'd be even worse.
39:36
We went to Montreal a couple years ago.
39:38
The streets downtown.
39:39
Oh, they're horrendous.
39:40
It might as well be Jeep Wranglers racing, not formula cars.
39:44
Well, not even that, but Montreal is a very grid laid out, plus
39:48
city courses are all terrible.
39:50
Yeah, they're all awful.
39:51
Look at Monaco.
39:52
They should move it to Toronto and drive around the skydome parking lot.
39:56
Oh, that's like what they're trying to do for indie car.
39:58
Right.
39:58
And down in Texas or whatever.
40:00
Down in Dallas.
40:01
Yeah, around the stadium.
40:01
But then that ends up like Miami, right.
40:03
And then you're like, that's horrible.
40:04
Sucks too.
40:06
Now I will say I have a newfound appreciation for Catalonia.
40:09
That was actually a decent race.
40:10
The Spanish Grand Prix was pretty good.
40:12
The outcome was nothing short of to be expected.
40:15
So I was like, all right, whatever.
40:16
But again, Ferrari can't get outta their own way.
40:19
Hey, that's the first race they podium.
40:21
By luck.
40:22
How many cars were, uh.
40:23
Yeah.
40:24
D nfd.
40:24
Yeah.
40:25
Disqualified.
40:25
Exactly three.
40:26
What were there?
40:27
Were there 18 cars?
40:28
Dnf and nothing's gonna change now for Ian season because no one's doing
40:32
anything more with their cars this year.
40:33
It's all going to 2026.
40:35
There might be one or two changes here and they're very minimal, but, so nothing's
40:38
really gonna change in the order.
40:39
Pastor's gonna be world champion.
40:41
The Spanish GP was exciting because we hadn't seen it for a while.
40:45
We got to see Tappin's true colors once again.
40:47
Oh, that was so good.
40:48
Oh man, that was good.
40:50
God.
40:50
I wanted him to get somehow some ways, so he got that last point on his license
40:53
so he could get banned for the next race.
40:55
Get suspended.
40:56
That'd been awesome.
40:57
It's astonishing that at the very least he wasn't DQ from that race.
41:00
Yeah.
41:01
Collusion.
41:04
I mean, he pretty much was on the radio saying, I'll show him.
41:08
And then purposely tried to punt him off the track.
41:10
I have said it before, you can take the racer out of the cart, but you can't
41:16
take the cart racer out of the boy.
41:18
He drives like a cart racer.
41:20
No, that was not a cart racing move at all.
41:23
That was a an aggressive, vindictive move.
41:26
My racing move premeditated because he had all the space in the world not to do that.
41:32
I agree with all of those things and that sends a bad message
41:35
to people that are watching.
41:37
So you think Red Bull will pay him a hundred million
41:39
dollars next season to stay at?
41:40
Only thing that would keep him there cash.
41:42
Rumor is he wants to leave.
41:43
Saw that too.
41:44
But I, I don't know.
41:45
Then there's rumors.
41:46
He is gonna gonna go to Aston or he is gonna go to Mercedes
41:49
or he is gonna go here.
41:50
He is gonna go there.
41:51
Really?
41:52
I don't know is gonna go to Aston.
41:53
'cause Adrian's there.
41:54
That's the only reason.
41:55
Is he gonna be the second driver to Lance who?
41:58
Yeah.
41:59
Who do you get rid of?
42:00
Let's play this game.
42:01
Who do you get rid of?
42:02
Stroll or Alonzo?
42:04
Who does Daddy Warbuck's fire?
42:05
Well, Alonzo's 62 years old, so he needs to retire.
42:09
But he's a better driver than Stroll.
42:11
Well, but Lance can't go do tennis now 'cause of his wrist.
42:13
So he is stuck.
42:14
F1.
42:15
Yeah.
42:15
Oh, poor baby.
42:18
And the, and the worst part is, and I've said this by watching the race Alonzo,
42:22
they like give him a little taste of like being like at the front again
42:25
and the excitement of the old days.
42:27
And then it's like, Fernando get back in line and start toeing Lance around
42:33
because that's what he's paid to do.
42:34
He has Lance on his ass the whole time cutting through traffic
42:38
and just toes lance around.
42:41
That's what he's paid to do.
42:42
I wouldn't want that job.
42:43
And if I was for stopping, I wouldn't want that job either.
42:45
Regardless of Adrian Newey.
42:47
No.
42:48
'cause that's what you're signing up to do is tow that guy around.
42:51
If I was making the money that they're making, I would tow Lance
42:54
Stroll wherever the fuck you wanted to go for his entire life.
42:57
I don't even care.
42:59
You want to toe to McDonald's?
43:01
Let's go.
43:01
Yeah.
43:02
You wanna tow to Starbucks?
43:03
You want me to tow you through the Starbucks?
43:05
Drive through?
43:05
Let's it No, no No's you, you wanna toe to Timmy's Tim Horton's.
43:08
Oh yeah.
43:08
You, you wanna tow to the Horton's?
43:09
Yeah.
43:10
Let's get it right.
43:11
Let's get it right.
43:11
Official sponsor of the F1 movie is KFC.
43:14
You're gonna tow him to get some Kentucky Fried chicken.
43:16
Oh, hell yeah.
43:17
Can tow you the KFC.
43:19
You seen those commercials?
43:20
They're, I thought it was Taco Bell is okay.
43:21
No, it's KFC.
43:22
Well, it's the same company anyway.
43:24
KFC, taco Bell, McDonald's, whatever.
43:25
It's all, it's all Pepsi.
43:27
Yeah.
43:27
Yeah, exactly.
43:28
Well, so speaking of the movie, is anyone here going to pay
43:31
to go see it in the theater?
43:31
They're gonna wait till it comes out on Apple.
43:33
I have small children.
43:34
I will not be paying to go see anything.
43:36
Oh, coming out on Apple.
43:37
Oh, that's right.
43:38
Well, I don't have Apple.
43:39
Well, you it.
43:39
Yeah.
43:39
So four weeks after it's released, it'll come out on Apple.
43:41
It should be.
43:42
Or six weeks.
43:42
I'll get it on Voodoo.
43:43
Yeah.
43:44
I just canceled my Apple tv, so Yeah.
43:46
I won't be watching it for another year.
43:48
I mean, I think I have a gift card to a MC.
43:52
God.
43:54
God.
43:55
Well, you're gonna do an episode about it if, if you go see it, I know you're
43:58
gonna go see it, William, come on.
43:59
Yeah, I'm gonna go see it.
44:00
We got this great new theater that opened up that's got the
44:03
reclining seats and everything.
44:04
That, and tickets are only like $11 dirt cheap instead of like the 20 something.
44:07
Yeah, it's, it's awesome.
44:08
It's Phoenix Theaters new first one in this area, I guess, or something.
44:11
Or they're starting, I don't know.
44:12
But yes, $10 and 79 cents or something like that.
44:15
That's not just Matt and Nate.
44:16
That's like anytime.
44:17
Wow.
44:18
At night you can go.
44:19
It's like me and my wife and daughter went the other night, saw movies.
44:21
All three of us tickets were only 32 bucks for all three of us.
44:24
Do you have to make your own popcorn in the back?
44:26
Well, I mean, I was smuggling my own candy, of course.
44:28
And my diet.
44:29
Mountain Dews.
44:29
Do you gotta stand there and run the reel?
44:32
Yeah.
44:32
Well it's good exercise.
44:35
That's why is one arm's bigger than the other?
44:36
Yeah.
44:37
All you have to do is clean up and vacuum after the movie.
44:40
That's, oh, there you go.
44:41
Put on a vest and just clean up.
44:43
You gotta sell concessions to the next movie, the, the next time slot too.
44:46
Exactly.
44:47
It's all give and take.
44:48
Yeah.
44:50
So Tanya, you mentioned to me the other day that there are proposed wing changes.
44:55
That means that the Ferrari's are gonna be even slower.
44:57
Is that right?
44:58
They're just gonna remove four bolts.
44:59
Yeah, there you go.
45:03
That was a headline that was floating out there, but I think in the end
45:07
it does all have to do with the crackdown on the front wing deflection.
45:11
Ah, okay.
45:12
But I think they ended up changing more of the front wing design as a result of that.
45:17
And so I think it went into effect ahead of Canada.
45:20
So I don't know that it necessarily negatively impacted 'em 'cause
45:23
they were as slow as normal, so.
45:25
They didn't get any slower.
45:26
That's a plus, but that's a slow track too.
45:28
But Clare didn't change anything from my understanding.
45:30
They didn't change nothing.
45:31
Everyone else had to change or they changed it.
45:33
So then that's why they're trying to file protests or something like
45:35
that and said, no, it's within line.
45:37
I mean, I know who the biggest culprit was of that flexi wing, Adrian Newey.
45:41
I'd love to see his, you know, his office and just seeing him go into town
45:44
at the big drafting table, still using the mechanical pencil and everything.
45:48
That'd be unbelievable to see.
45:49
No, it's like that episode of the office where he walks in and he shuts the door
45:54
and he closes the blinds and he sits down and he starts crying at his desk.
45:58
That's what Adrian is doing at Aston right now.
46:00
What I do, what I do, that's what he's doing.
46:15
Well that wraps up our showcase devoted to Le Mans and Formula One with the
46:20
undertone of Ferrari mixed in there.
46:22
If we didn't talk about enough motor sports news, we need
46:25
to go over the pit wall.
46:27
Quickly add one more topic for our motor sports news this month, and this goes
46:31
back to the Monaco GP weekend, Memorial Day Indy 500, Kyle Larson Double Fail.
46:39
This is what I call the Joe Flacco syndrome.
46:42
Do you remember number one elite quarterback in the world?
46:44
Joe Flaco.
46:45
He would like self-proclaimed Kyle Larson.
46:47
Yes, I get that.
46:48
He's a NASCAR champion.
46:49
But the same thing, right?
46:50
Like I'm, I can beat all those Formula one guy, I'm faster than max for stepin,
46:55
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
46:56
All the other bs, you know, armchair quarterbacking that we all do as razors,
47:00
but he crashes at Indy, gets on a plane, flies to Charlotte for the, whatever, the
47:05
Coca-Cola 600 or wherever the heck it was.
47:07
And then crashes there too, you know?
47:09
But you're the best driver on the planet.
47:10
I'd love to see him get in a formula car and show that he's
47:14
better than Max for Stepin.
47:15
Yes, he ain't never gonna do that.
47:17
I'd love to see, for staffing, go do the Indy 500 and beat everybody.
47:23
He'd be so bored, he'd be like, I've never driven longer than 75 laps.
47:27
This is ridiculous.
47:28
Get me out of here.
47:29
That's it for Motors Sports News.
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47:35
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And so we should probably get back to our regularly scheduled granting and raving.
48:20
And so, William, since you're here with us, normally we would jump into
48:23
Volkswagen, added Porsche news, right?
48:25
Because that's sort of our bias.
48:26
I decided to switch things up temporarily and switch over to STIs because they
48:31
are the parent company behind, you know, Fiat and Ferrari and all that fun stuff.
48:35
There was a headline that came out that says, this is from Ferrari,
48:39
and it reads, there is zero demand for the next Ferrari ev.
48:43
And I was like, wait, there was a Ferrari ev.
48:45
What was the first Ferrari ev?
48:47
Well, first it was gonna be the derivative of the new 12 dolche
48:51
salinity or whatever it was.
48:52
They're gonna do that.
48:53
But then they realized there's probably no uptake on it.
48:55
So then they switched it over to the SUV, would've been the PO San way,
48:58
but EV one, then they realize nobody wants to buy a fricking electric
49:02
car, so they're like, forget it.
49:03
They change it so many times to figure out what type of car they wanna put it in.
49:07
And you see, you know, all the little secret prototype cars coming out.
49:11
There's a great guy that's Varix, V-A-R-I-Y-X-X-I.
49:15
I dunno, that just basically camps out every day outside Marine
49:18
and just takes photos of stuff.
49:20
There is so many different variations and everything, 'cause
49:23
obviously you can hear it driving.
49:24
No sound.
49:25
They had multiple ones that they were just trying to go through, but I think
49:28
they were thinking they were gonna be able to slide in where they, it would
49:31
be the uptake would be because of what the car was, you know, A SUV, you know,
49:35
not a sedan or coupe or what have you.
49:37
So they kind of kept transitioning.
49:39
Now they came to realization just as every other manufacturer in this world did.
49:43
Nobody wants stinking electric cars.
49:45
Hybrid is the answer though.
49:47
Yes, it is.
49:47
Well, speaking of electric cars and talking more about Stellantis last month,
49:51
we've talked about yet again, Jeff Bezos.
49:54
Quote unquote, Amazon coming to the table with the slate Ev, you know, the
49:58
affordable pickup truck that you can do all this bolting on and make it look like
50:02
a Bronco or make it look like a maverick.
50:04
You can be a pickup or you can be an SUV, or you can be this, you can
50:07
be that, you know, for the low, low bargain base price of $20,000 and
50:10
you get rolled up windows and air in your tires and all that fun thing.
50:13
Well, the CEO of Ram division of Solanis, you know, Dodge trucks used to be right.
50:18
He came out and said there's absolutely no way that they can
50:22
produce this truck for $20,000.
50:24
That's a on paper vehicle when you actually go to go buy it.
50:28
So here we go.
50:28
Here's the bait and switch Tesla model.
50:30
It's gonna end up being 30, $40,000 like everything else, because
50:33
you're gonna want the options, and the options aren't gonna be cheap.
50:36
They're not gonna give you the Bronco version of the same truck.
50:41
For the same cost as the one without it, it's just, it's not gonna work.
50:44
So he's calling them to carpet on the, you know, the bargain basement truck.
50:47
And not only that, he comes out saying that this undercuts the rest of the
50:51
truck market, which is where I have a problem, because now we have the
50:55
pot calling the kettle black because big trucks are too damn expensive.
50:59
What am I getting for a hundred thousand dollars from your ram?
51:03
So we gotta sort of meet in the middle here on these trucks at some point.
51:07
I like the fact, you know, going back to basics with that, in essence with
51:10
the roll up windows, everything like that, there's no big screen or whatnot.
51:13
Hey, you use your own phone or whatever and just ties all in together.
51:16
Maybe it was when you buy, it's just a rolling chassis, you
51:19
gotta put in your own engine.
51:21
It's like the movie theater.
51:22
You gotta make the popcorn in the back.
51:23
Exactly.
51:24
You know, I find it hilarious that we're talking about an electric vehicle.
51:28
The power plant is driven by just one giant battery and it's
51:32
gonna have roll up windows.
51:36
Those are extra electrons.
51:38
That is just.
51:39
Completely absurd.
51:41
Just throw some Duro cells in there.
51:43
Who cares?
51:43
There we go.
51:44
No, it's like red green show.
51:46
Remember when he had the cordless drill and he made the manual windows
51:49
go up and down with his drill?
51:51
That's how he made power windows.
51:52
The same thing.
51:52
Just put a half inch chuck in there and just, they just power
51:56
it with the Ryobi 18 volt.
51:59
Done.
51:59
Yeah, take a couple of those in there.
52:01
All your peripherals.
52:02
Just throw a couple, a couple hundred of those in there each,
52:04
and just take them out as they die.
52:06
When's that thing supposed to be available?
52:08
Are they even taking deposits?
52:10
Are they taking a hundred dollars deposits yet the third Saturday of never.
52:13
That's when it's coming out.
52:14
Obviously he needs some sort of tax benefit for all his money, so he just
52:18
dump it into that as a nice writeoff.
52:20
What comes out first?
52:21
The slate?
52:22
The scout or the Tesla Roadster.
52:24
Oh, damn.
52:27
Why you gotta do that to me?
52:28
Or the DeLorean?
52:29
It's gotta be the slate.
52:30
He's the most liquid, cash wise.
52:31
Yeah.
52:32
The other ones are all pipe dreams.
52:33
Tesla's going down this crapper.
52:35
You know Mr. Numb nuts.
52:37
And you remember at Monty Python and the people rejoice a Yeah.
52:42
Talk about way to sink your own company.
52:44
Just start doing what that moron did.
52:46
Well, what is it that Elon said when the cyber truck finally rolled out?
52:49
We signed our own death certificate or something like that.
52:52
It's the best vehicle ever.
52:55
Yeah.
52:55
Yeah.
52:55
With the salute.
52:56
Yeah.
52:58
Oh my God.
52:59
All right.
52:59
Well, in Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche land, I. And there's
53:03
been some shuffling of the deck.
53:04
There has been for the last couple of years.
53:06
It all started, in my opinion, when they fired the guy who designed the
53:10
ID buzz and all the new retro cars that they were coming out with.
53:14
It's all just been this round robin of CEOs and design chiefs and this and that.
53:19
And we know Volkswagen just putting out stuff that nobody wants.
53:23
But unfortunately this has become systemic and now this.
53:26
Plague that has infested Volkswagen is finding its way over to Audi and
53:30
they released what their new design language is gonna look like for the next
53:34
generation Audis, which are coming out basically later this year into next year.
53:38
And, oh God, it's ugly.
53:41
This is the ugliest passat I've ever seen.
53:44
And I think you said on Discord.
53:45
Why did they bolt the GTI front end to the Audi?
53:49
It was more like F they did that.
53:51
It's really bad.
53:52
And if this is what the new Audis are gonna look like, you're really
53:55
gonna have a hard time telling them.
53:57
Apart from the Lexi and the new BMWs and everything else that's on the road,
54:01
they just look like anything else.
54:03
And in profile, this particular car looks a lot like the old Passade.
54:07
Oof, no thank you.
54:08
Even the hood, the shape, it's a little bit flatter than the new golf.
54:12
But the new golf, they made it very, almost more beetle like.
54:17
And that's not a good thing actually for these either of these cars.
54:21
I don't know.
54:21
It's disappointing.
54:22
I definitely, and the reason I bring this up is Audi is selling, or has sold by this
54:28
point etal design, so put it all together.
54:31
They're getting rid of one of the most famous Italian design
54:34
houses of the modern era.
54:36
And this is what they've come up with because they weren't happy with maybe
54:40
whatever retail design was coming up with.
54:41
You guys are making the biggest mistake of your lives.
54:44
I guess this is the Bengal period for Audi.
54:46
That's what's coming, but we'll see.
54:47
I could be proven wrong.
54:48
It's been known to happen.
54:50
Yes.
54:50
So whoa, whoa.
54:51
What is this?
54:52
Do I see some Swedish meatballs on the list?
54:54
We have some Volvo news, which we don't normally have ever.
54:58
Now.
54:59
This is less about a new car coming out and more about a new
55:04
technology and I don't know what is this that I feel good about it.
55:10
So Volvo obviously has a long history and a long reputation for safety, right?
55:15
They were the first to invent, I believe, the three point safety
55:18
belt, four cars back in the day.
55:22
Now they've come up with a new innovation to the seatbelt, and it very much worries
55:28
me when the words over the air updates and if my seatbelt ooh, are used in
55:34
the same sentence, Ooh, that's bad.
55:37
That makes me really uncomfortable.
55:39
So we can just start there.
55:41
That's where this is going.
55:42
So apparently they're introducing a new seatbelt design.
55:45
That essentially is completely sensor based to the level that it's going to
55:51
detect your height, your weight, your body shape, how you're sitting in your seat.
55:57
It's going to take that day, aggregate it, do whatever, and it's going to optimize
56:02
the tension, the load of the belt for you.
56:06
What you invented the seatbelt like 60 years ago or more.
56:12
It's worked pretty well.
56:15
I mean, granted, depending on the accident, there's some things you can't
56:19
survive, but for the most part, the three point belt with the design of the seats
56:23
and how they crumple, everything works.
56:24
Safety as a system and as you can learn about in other previous
56:27
podcasts, it all works together.
56:29
This is an overdesigning solving a problem that doesn't exist.
56:35
I have a couple points.
56:36
Oh, one to Tanya's point, it's a cash grab.
56:39
They can't make money on the old seatbelt design, and they can't
56:42
sell cars because they suck.
56:44
So they're looking for a cash grab to try and revolutionize the, the wheel.
56:48
They're trying to remake the wheel.
56:50
Also, looking at the exploded view of the parts and everything.
56:53
This thing has more parts than my tundra motor.
56:58
And at what point are they going to send this information about your seatbelt
57:04
and if you're wearing it properly, to the authorities Uhhuh, where they can
57:07
send you an an over-the-air ticket.
57:09
Yep.
57:09
For not having your seatbelt properly secured or link it to your insurance.
57:15
Yeah.
57:15
And then you, yeah.
57:16
Again, oh, you weren't wearing your seatbelt for 35 milliseconds
57:20
on February 4th, 2028.
57:23
You know, you get a $50 fine and we're gonna drop your insurance,
57:26
and they're opening themselves up to data privacy because now it's
57:29
recording your personal information that's going to be stored somewhere.
57:34
Let's say that's hackable by someone.
57:36
I don't know.
57:37
It's the modern world.
57:38
We're in the internet of things.
57:39
I have a bigger question to ask.
57:41
How much does this seatbelt contraption weigh?
57:43
A lot.
57:44
I'd imagine there's a lot of moving parts on this.
57:47
It looks like a transmission.
57:49
It looks like these are gears.
57:50
Imagine one of those parts fails.
57:53
It is ridiculous.
57:54
One of these little components fails and then what?
57:56
Your seatbelt doesn't work properly and then you die.
57:58
Do you have to take the car in for seatbelt maintenance now?
58:00
Like, is that gonna be part of your dealership plan?
58:03
How much is this gonna cost?
58:04
Is there like an oil change on your seatbelt?
58:06
You gotta keep those parts lubricated.
58:08
We used to make fun of muffler bearings.
58:10
Those are a real thing.
58:11
If you have a baffled exhaust, there's bearings in the exhaust.
58:14
There might be a lot of bearings in this seatbelt assembly.
58:16
They're, they're gonna release it on December 31st, 2025, and
58:20
they're gonna have the first mass recall on January 1st, 2026.
58:24
Geez Louise.
58:25
This is ridiculous.
58:26
Switching gears and talking about domestic cars.
58:29
Some sad news.
58:31
This is specifically with Ford, but hot hatches are officially dead at Ford.
58:37
Wait, they're officially dead now and not like already 10 years ago.
58:41
No, no.
58:41
The final hot hatch was built at Ford.
58:44
That's it.
58:45
Uh, Ford, America or Ford.
58:48
Globally, there are no more hot hatches.
58:51
Period.
58:51
So after 45 years of hot hatches at Ford.
58:55
So Ford is exiting the European market.
58:58
That's what I'm reading between the lines.
59:01
Yes.
59:01
So no more Ka none done.
59:04
No more hatchbacks.
59:05
Okay, cool.
59:06
Bold plan cotton.
59:08
Yeah.
59:08
We'll see how this plays out for you.
59:09
That's a shame because b spect cars like the Fiesta are hot.
59:13
They're in demand.
59:14
People like them.
59:15
They want them.
59:15
And then, you know, slightly bigger the focus.
59:17
Stuff like that.
59:18
But yeah, no, they're done.
59:19
They're out.
59:20
Are they still running Fords in Rally?
59:23
And what does this do to the rally teams?
59:24
Yeah, so they're running the Puma in Rally, which is a hatchback as well.
59:28
It's slightly bigger than even the focus.
59:30
A little lower, a little longer, but still a hatchback, you know, in that design.
59:33
But yeah, the Puma's gone too.
59:34
So I'm curious what Ford's gonna run in WRC if they don't kind of keep
59:39
the puma going along for a little while, but maybe they're gonna
59:42
pull out, they're gonna run a mki.
59:44
Yeah.
59:44
Okay.
59:45
Well, they have their new super duper EV card that they're building to take
59:50
on Volkswagen's Pike's Peak record.
59:52
Good luck chasing the IDR up the mountain.
59:54
That was a hell of a run.
59:55
But Ford is trying on all fronts because the Mustang GTD just set its quote
1:00:01
unquote lightning lap at the Berg ring.
1:00:04
And I said to myself, does this even matter anymore with the change
1:00:07
in the automotive landscape and EVs and all that kinda stuff?
1:00:10
I don't know.
1:00:10
An ev, they can do a lightning lap at the ring.
1:00:13
'cause the ring's so long.
1:00:14
I guess they've done it in ez, but they get like one lap right?
1:00:16
Or two at maximum.
1:00:18
And I guess the take hand would be the only other one, but.
1:00:20
Is it really important anymore that a Mustang can do A fast lap at the ring?
1:00:25
How many spectators did it hit around the track?
1:00:28
What?
1:00:28
A bit a lap time's not Yeah.
1:00:30
How many spectators did it hit at the track?
1:00:32
Oh my God.
1:00:33
Yeah.
1:00:33
So I mean, good for Ford.
1:00:35
They're trying and the Mustang competed at Le Mans another car that didn't really
1:00:39
get a lot of airtime over the weekend.
1:00:41
So actually sort of forgot.
1:00:42
I was like, oh yeah, there's Mustangs running in GTLM or GT three rather.
1:00:45
But anyway, good for Ford.
1:00:47
Get rid of the hot hatchbacks.
1:00:48
Focus on the Mustang if that's where you think your market is and sell trucks.
1:00:52
Boom.
1:00:52
Done.
1:00:53
So switching to Asian domestic news, I'm just gonna read this headline.
1:00:57
Nissan's new budget sedan was just leaked online.
1:01:01
Uh,
1:01:04
a new Altima design.
1:01:05
What?
1:01:06
Right.
1:01:06
They don't make anything else.
1:01:08
Exactly.
1:01:08
So I guess there's a new Altima coming.
1:01:10
What is this rendering?
1:01:11
What is this trash?
1:01:12
This is what Nissan can afford right now.
1:01:14
Okay.
1:01:15
Oh my God's that bad.
1:01:16
It's really bad.
1:01:17
It.
1:01:17
Looks like a Tesla or a Lucid or something.
1:01:20
It's awful.
1:01:21
We all are copying each other so as per use, so it'll look like the new Audi, so
1:01:26
we won't be able to tell the difference.
1:01:27
I read that headline completely different.
1:01:29
I read it as the, it just leaked online, meaning like there needs to be a cleanup
1:01:34
of someone's oil all over the internet.
1:01:39
Toyota's doing some math.
1:01:40
How about this?
1:01:41
9 million EVs are just as polluting as 27 million hybrids.
1:01:46
I'd like to see their lifecycle analysis.
1:01:49
This is the Jeremy Clarkson lifecycle analysis.
1:01:51
Remember that thing you did on top gear where he showed like where the batteries
1:01:54
for a Prius came from and like the strip mining and this and that, and then it gets
1:01:58
transported here, and then it gets put on a ship and by the time it's done Yeah,
1:02:01
it goes around the world three times.
1:02:02
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:02:03
And then when the car is finally destroyed or whatever, where it all
1:02:06
goes, that is a true lifecycle analysis.
1:02:09
It is called cradle to grave.
1:02:11
That means from the very beginning inception of where all the parts come.
1:02:15
Mm-hmm.
1:02:16
All the way to where all the parts go, when the thing is no longer.
1:02:19
Functioning anymore.
1:02:20
A lot of people choose to draw the box that they say their lifecycle
1:02:25
is around a different part of that whole manufacturing chain, and that's
1:02:30
where the math can get kind of funny.
1:02:32
And that's where statistics and numbers and all that kind of stuff, you can
1:02:35
play around and have the data say what you want it to say if you don't know
1:02:39
what the fine print of the data is.
1:02:40
So I don't know what the basis of this is.
1:02:44
I mean, if he's basing it on the fact that those 9 million EVs, they're
1:02:47
getting their materials by colonizing Mars, then yes, obviously the Prius's
1:02:52
are better for the environment.
1:02:55
I mean, it goes back to the argument that some people have made from the onset of
1:02:58
the EVs, that the actual manufacturer of them is the polluting part.
1:03:02
Though there is data that I have seen, it comes down to what your
1:03:09
manufacturing process is, right?
1:03:10
It's, it's not as simple as just saying, oh, I made an EV and it's super polluting
1:03:14
and horrible, and the manufacturing process was worse than, you know, the oil
1:03:18
refining and a gas car and all this stuff.
1:03:20
Because if you had.
1:03:22
Renewable as your energy source for making the car.
1:03:25
Then suddenly that's a whole other can of worms.
1:03:28
But then you could argue, well, if I had renewable for when I made the regular gas
1:03:32
car, that's a whole other can of worms.
1:03:34
But you still got the oil refining part of there, which is a problem.
1:03:37
Right?
1:03:37
So it's a very dynamic situation really, and nobody ever actually
1:03:42
explains or shows where the data comes from and what's behind these claims,
1:03:46
other than they're very sensational.
1:03:48
Yeah, I mean that's very stark to say, nine verse 27.
1:03:51
I'd sort of like my math from earlier.
1:03:53
Any rate, slight public service announcements.
1:03:56
If you are a Mazda owner, there is a recall underway for all Mazda threes and
1:04:02
CX thirties because apparently we'd never learned our lesson about Tata airbags.
1:04:07
So that's really all I need to say about that.
1:04:09
Well, they got 'em at a discount.
1:04:10
Fire sale.
1:04:12
You notice they're in the cheap Mazdas?
1:04:14
Yeah.
1:04:15
Yeah.
1:04:15
Not the CX 90 or or whatever.
1:04:18
Not the more expensive ones.
1:04:19
The cheap ones the budget friendly.
1:04:21
Well, speaking of budget friendly Brad, it's time we go and look under
1:04:25
Lost and found your favorite section of the drive through where we call
1:04:29
up Chuck La Duck and Gray Chevrolet and see what they have on the lot.
1:04:32
And I found something that screams.
1:04:34
Your next purchase knowing you sold your R 32.
1:04:38
Got a little cash in your pocket.
1:04:39
You should pick up this Oldsmobile Bravada pickup truck bra.
1:04:44
Nada.
1:04:47
This thing is terrible.
1:04:50
I love the license plate cut in half.
1:04:56
Can I ask a serious question?
1:04:58
Sure.
1:04:58
Did Daniel do this?
1:04:59
That's what I was thinking too, because this looks like
1:05:01
something Daniel would've done.
1:05:02
Right.
1:05:03
I got old GMC.
1:05:04
Jimmy, I'm won't cut it.
1:05:06
No, this is a bad idea from the word go Next up is gonna be that mercury
1:05:11
wagon he's got up there at the mountain.
1:05:13
He's gonna cut it up into one of these.
1:05:15
This is the question I always seem to be asking myself.
1:05:18
What compels people to do this?
1:05:21
Because you probably could have bought a flatbed pickup that he's trying to
1:05:26
achieve with this at like a government auction for like next to nothing.
1:05:30
And yet how much time, effort, labor built, not bought.
1:05:34
Hold my beard.
1:05:34
Yeah, I guess so.
1:05:36
Wait, we're not gonna talk about the teeth on the front of it.
1:05:38
What is that about?
1:05:39
That's, that makes it look tough.
1:05:41
It's gonna eat you up.
1:05:42
It's gonna cut you in half with those teeth.
1:05:45
It's the truck's bravado.
1:05:46
Ooh.
1:05:47
Oh that's bad.
1:05:50
That joke was cut in half.
1:05:51
And then, wait, hold on.
1:05:52
Okay, wait, wait.
1:05:54
So we do all this work Uhhuh, we chop this MF up.
1:05:57
We put the fangs and the, the vampire teeth on it, Uhhuh, and then we leave it
1:06:02
this nasty Oldsmobile brown color in the catalog that's listed as diarrhea brown.
1:06:08
Okay.
1:06:08
Not only that, you've done all this work to make it a flatbed pickup truck.
1:06:12
Looks like something super industrial.
1:06:14
It can tow as much as those Cushman carts that we talked about on the last episode.
1:06:19
Like what's the payload on this thing?
1:06:20
Like 500 pounds.
1:06:21
It can't tow anything.
1:06:22
You can't do anything with it.
1:06:23
So what's the point?
1:06:24
You can't even put mulch on there.
1:06:26
No, it'll slide off.
1:06:27
It would fly out.
1:06:28
But you can weld an engine crane to the back of it though.
1:06:30
And then it becomes like a little tow truck.
1:06:32
Are you trying to do those golf carts from the last time?
1:06:34
So moving on.
1:06:35
Lost and found.
1:06:36
Well, guess what?
1:06:36
If one of your bucket list cars is a quote unquote Eleanor Mustang
1:06:41
from the New Gone in 60 Seconds.
1:06:43
'cause you know, we always have to differentiate between the original
1:06:46
gone in 60 seconds, the Mach one Mustang that they had in that versus,
1:06:50
you know, the 66 Shelby GT 500 that they used in the Nicholas Cage movie.
1:06:55
If you've always wanted one of those, and you probably know the story about how
1:06:59
there's been lawsuits and lawsuits about making Eleanor replicas and copyrights
1:07:03
and this and that, well guess what?
1:07:05
Court has now.
1:07:07
Overturned all the appeals and replicas of the 66 Shelby GT 500 Eleanor are
1:07:13
legal at least for the time being until the next round of lawsuits.
1:07:17
So if you wanna build one, now's the time to do it.
1:07:19
You are not gonna get in trouble for doing it.
1:07:21
That's exciting.
1:07:22
They're gorgeous.
1:07:23
So stupid.
1:07:24
I know, right?
1:07:25
William knows all about that on the Porsche side of the house,
1:07:27
what you can and can't do.
1:07:28
And call.
1:07:29
And can't call.
1:07:29
Right.
1:07:30
That's why Singer can't use Porsche in their name.
1:07:32
Right.
1:07:32
Singer Design.
1:07:33
Yeah.
1:07:33
If you ever go to the bottom of singer page, look how many times
1:07:35
they state they're not affiliated.
1:07:38
All this stuff.
1:07:39
Porsche don't like that at all.
1:07:41
That's kinda surprising though with this.
1:07:42
It's a very Ferrari thing to do.
1:07:44
Yeah.
1:07:45
Ferrari just doesn't allow you to modify anything.
1:07:47
That's a no-no.
1:07:48
That's verboten.
1:07:49
Speaking of William, did you see that new Baby Blue F 40 that was redone that
1:07:54
was restored and they repainted it?
1:07:55
Yeah, it looks really cool.
1:07:58
Like really good.
1:07:59
Oh yeah.
1:07:59
I dunno if you watch on YouTube, watch the guy from Stance Works.
1:08:02
You ever see that guy?
1:08:03
Yeah.
1:08:03
Yeah.
1:08:03
He's doing that.
1:08:04
Building a tube frame, everything forties.
1:08:06
He's got the, I I, I'm excited to see how that thing turns out.
1:08:09
I think he's gonna do a nice job.
1:08:10
I, I think it's gonna turn out sweet.
1:08:12
You know when you get one up there.
1:08:13
I mean, have some fun with it.
1:08:14
Yeah.
1:08:14
But yeah, the baby blue thing is beautiful.
1:08:16
Those things look great in other colors, that's for sure.
1:08:18
Yeah.
1:08:18
Not just red or black.
1:08:20
Not just red or black, although they look damn good.
1:08:22
Black.
1:08:22
But anyway, this next one, Tanya, this came across my desk.
1:08:27
Before it came across yours.
1:08:28
I was actually hiding this up my sleeve.
1:08:30
And then you posted on a Discord and I was like, no.
1:08:32
She must have a Google filter looking for totally rad things like replacement
1:08:37
headsets for a car from 1985.
1:08:39
And Pioneer has answered your prayers, oh man, I gotta want that so bad.
1:08:44
But it's not sold here.
1:08:46
That's so shortsighted and so stupid.
1:08:48
There are some other, like Blau Punk actually does make something
1:08:53
that you can, I believe buy here.
1:08:54
So might have to think about these kind of things in the future.
1:08:58
So if you've got an older car or you don't really have any options, it's singled in,
1:09:03
it's a tape deck, like what do you do?
1:09:05
And you don't have the dash space to go put something different in and you just
1:09:10
want a more modern looking tape deck that still has a cassette and you need
1:09:14
your cassette adapter and all this stuff.
1:09:15
Like what?
1:09:16
But these Pioneer and also BLO punk, they've actually made calling it the
1:09:21
retro head unit and it legit looks like very clean, not kind of, you know, back
1:09:27
in the day they had all the, the gaudy single in unit and you could take the
1:09:31
face plate off because it was the hotness to, you know, have your radio stolen or
1:09:35
whatever so you could remove the face.
1:09:37
And it had all the bright neon colors and all the buttons and all that stuff.
1:09:41
These are very clean, like almost factory.
1:09:44
Style radios period appropriate, and the cassette is there except it's
1:09:50
a flap and when you open it, it's got USB Ox in Come with Bluetooth.
1:09:55
It's awesome if you wanna keep your car looking period appropriate, but also have
1:09:59
modern radio technology not running around with the wires in the carcass set adapter.
1:10:04
Try and use one of those other air over FM transmitters.
1:10:08
It never really works very well, blah, blah, blah.
1:10:10
$500. I think the pioneer one is something like that, or 500 Euros,
1:10:14
which is pretty expensive, but.
1:10:16
If you got kind of a, I don't wanna say collector car, but a car from back
1:10:20
in the, the eighties or early nineties even, that you really care about it, it
1:10:24
could be worth spending the money on.
1:10:25
And also a lot of those radios from back then tended to basically die.
1:10:30
Yeah.
1:10:31
Especially the cassette adapters.
1:10:32
The cassette portion of them would sometimes break down.
1:10:34
You'd get your cassette stuck or they would just stop really working.
1:10:37
And what and what do you do?
1:10:39
And even the technology of the, the radios themselves,
1:10:41
the receivers aren't very good.
1:10:43
And you'd struggle to get local broadcast channels.
1:10:45
So something like this, more modern in your old car is really pretty cool.
1:10:49
So you're gonna get one once.
1:10:50
You can get one is what?
1:10:51
Once I can get one.
1:10:52
It would look great in the Audi.
1:10:54
Yeah, it would.
1:10:55
And that Blo Punk especially looks factory.
1:10:57
The Pioneer looks a little chintzy, but the Blo punk's nice too.
1:11:00
It's got SD card reader and a bunch of other features that the Pioneer doesn't.
1:11:03
So I approve this message.
1:11:05
This is good.
1:11:05
Good stuff.
1:11:06
Good.
1:11:06
Find, make sure you add it to the Christmas.
1:11:08
Yeah.
1:11:09
Christmas Special Man.
1:11:10
2025 is the year that keeps on giving to our uncool wall.
1:11:15
This one came across my desk literally today.
1:11:18
Wow.
1:11:19
I don't even know what to say about this car.
1:11:21
What did, what did it say?
1:11:22
What is, it was something about the sound this makes or something
1:11:25
and or the sound you hear.
1:11:26
What was that?
1:11:27
That was written with it?
1:11:28
Because the sound I heard was, oh, I said suddenly heard the Inspector Gadget
1:11:32
theme song playing when I see this.
1:11:34
Oh yeah, no, I suddenly heard that.
1:11:35
Sound of somebody w retching.
1:11:37
This is horrendous.
1:11:39
And then I thought about William and I was like, wasn't there a Ferrari?
1:11:43
They called the bread van?
1:11:44
Was it?
1:11:45
It was like a Ferrari two 50 short wheel base or something.
1:11:47
Yes, it was built by Count Volpi or whatever.
1:11:51
'cause he was pissed off 'cause Enzo wouldn't sell him a two 50 GTO.
1:11:54
So he wanted to have something that was basically the same thing.
1:11:56
So had biz design and build it to annoy him.
1:11:59
That's why I made it a station wagon, bread van.
1:12:01
Everyone called it Bread van to piss off Enzo.
1:12:03
And that thing was fast man.
1:12:04
I think it went and competed with him was good, but it basically
1:12:07
was an FU to Enzo is what he did.
1:12:09
'cause he wouldn't sell a GTO.
1:12:11
It sounds like there's a theme there.
1:12:12
A lot of people are doing an FU days.
1:12:15
Yeah.
1:12:16
I mean this car is an FU to everybody.
1:12:19
I understand that the R 33 is not necessarily the GTR that everybody wants,
1:12:24
but to go spend the money to do this.
1:12:28
Hmm.
1:12:28
It looks like a truck cap on it.
1:12:29
It's wild.
1:12:31
Did you guys notice the placement of the sunroof?
1:12:33
Who does that benefit?
1:12:34
Not even above the back seats.
1:12:36
I was like, why is it all the way back there?
1:12:38
Like, what is this?
1:12:40
Maybe this is a really good Photoshop.
1:12:42
Really good Photoshop, but I have a feeling this is California hot rotting.
1:12:47
If you think about it, if they just grafted that on, so that's all new.
1:12:52
Where that sunroof is like from the line of the roof line back would be new.
1:12:57
So anything they didn't change, they didn't wanna cut into
1:13:00
the roof of the car itself.
1:13:01
The original, they just grafted that on.
1:13:03
Maybe that's awful.
1:13:05
And that rear window, the molding too, is like three inches thick.
1:13:08
It looks like a porthole on a ship.
1:13:10
It's awful.
1:13:11
But anyway, we'll leave it up to the audience to decide.
1:13:13
I, I am constantly surprised when I log onto the uncool wall and
1:13:17
see all the votes and see how stuff shifts from month to month.
1:13:20
Like there are cars now that are, people are judging as you know,
1:13:23
these are actually kind of cool.
1:13:24
And I'm like, I would've never picked that for the life of me.
1:13:26
Like these would've been the bottom of the barrel.
1:13:28
Now the classics are always at the top of the list, right?
1:13:31
The Aztec and the HHR and the PT Cruiser and.
1:13:34
All the usual suspects, but this one I had to add it to the list.
1:13:38
If you wanna check out what we're talking about, go to gt motorsports.org,
1:13:41
click on podcast, and then uncool wall, and you can go vote on
1:13:45
over 60 cars on our uncool wall.
1:13:48
All right.
1:13:48
We don't have any Tesla news, but we do have what Brad has, retitled seriously.
1:13:53
What could go wrong?
1:13:55
And Brad, I need you to share this story with the audience because
1:13:59
I heard you got into a fight.
1:14:01
Yeah.
1:14:01
You should see the other, the other mammal.
1:14:03
I heard it was an animal.
1:14:05
You should see the other mammal.
1:14:09
Yes, yes, yes.
1:14:10
So wait, wait, wait.
1:14:11
Is this a dashboard confessional?
1:14:15
My family was walking home from the neighbor's house after
1:14:19
dinner minding our own business, just walking through the yard.
1:14:22
And this Mike Tyson deer came up and was like, gimme your lunch money.
1:14:28
And we were like, nah, fool.
1:14:30
And then it just started attacking my kids and my wife, and she jumped
1:14:35
on top of the kids to protect them.
1:14:37
It tried to trample on her.
1:14:39
So I literally.
1:14:40
Hulked it.
1:14:41
I went over, I picked it up like literally lifted this 150 pound deer
1:14:45
and threw it, and it kept coming back.
1:14:48
So I'm like punching it.
1:14:49
I've got my arms around its neck.
1:14:50
At some point, I mentally decide that I'm going to kill
1:14:54
this deer with my bare hands.
1:14:56
Hulk smash you.
1:14:59
I mean, you're, you're laughing and you, you joke in the moment.
1:15:02
I mean this, it was life or death and it, it was not going to be my death.
1:15:06
I, I let it go, was able to scare it off a little bit to get the family
1:15:10
inside, but it kept coming back.
1:15:12
Wow.
1:15:12
And I was in my neighbor's yard.
1:15:14
I could not find a usable stick as a weapon because he's very
1:15:18
good at grooming his yard.
1:15:20
I eventually found something and my neighbor drove, you know,
1:15:23
the family back to the house.
1:15:25
I walked across the street to make sure that I could have eyes
1:15:27
on the deer, but it tracked me all the way back to my, my door.
1:15:31
Eventually I got it to just run off and ran around the neighbor's house.
1:15:35
Fast forward, it's terrorizing another family down the street now.
1:15:40
Dang.
1:15:40
And I don't know if anybody follows me on Instagram.
1:15:43
I think I've got like two followers.
1:15:44
But I posted a picture of like my baseball bat that I've had for like 20 plus years.
1:15:49
Basically I walk to and from my office, 'cause my office is in my detached garage.
1:15:53
I walked to and from my office with the bat.
1:15:55
Wow.
1:15:56
There's the story.
1:15:57
And it's a female deer, right?
1:15:59
Yes.
1:15:59
It's a doe, a deer.
1:16:01
A female deer.
1:16:03
It's not like those shows on National Geographic when deers
1:16:06
attack, you know, it's usually like some other large predator.
1:16:10
Is it the color of your car that like pissed off this deer?
1:16:14
No.
1:16:16
So the theory 'cause animal control came out and did absolutely nothing.
1:16:20
Thank you so much Chesterfield Animal Control for wasting my tax dollars
1:16:25
on your fuel to come out and tell us, oh yeah, deer attack Uhhuh.
1:16:28
Keep an eye on it.
1:16:30
The theory is that it was protecting a fawn.
1:16:33
Ah, it sensed that my oldest son, who was in front of us all was a threat.
1:16:39
And because, you know, he was, you know, little or whatever, dude went after him.
1:16:43
But then my wife and I jumped in and it was very interesting in that
1:16:48
situation to see our reactions.
1:16:51
'cause as I think back on it.
1:16:53
We both did something completely different, but it just kind of worked.
1:16:57
Like she went in full on, protect the kids mode.
1:17:00
I went in full on, I'm gonna kill this thing, and it just, it worked.
1:17:04
I don't know what would've happened if it was, it had been a male deer.
1:17:06
I don't know what would've happened if it was just me and
1:17:09
the kids, or her and the kids.
1:17:10
I mean, thankfully, we don't have to know, find that out in this situation.
1:17:13
It was very scary for one, if it was just you and the kids, I envisioned you
1:17:18
grabbing them, basically the scruffs of their necks and just running.
1:17:22
Yeah, yeah.
1:17:23
Put one under each arm and your haul ass outta there.
1:17:27
I would like to think that too.
1:17:29
But I also think that I might've still just tried to go after the deer and
1:17:33
I would've yelled for the kids to go back to the house, but I still probably
1:17:38
would've done everything I could to go for the deer or put myself between
1:17:42
the, you know, the deer and the kids.
1:17:43
What's it like to punch a deer?
1:17:45
Um, well.
1:17:46
I've got a broken finger.
1:17:48
Oh no.
1:17:49
Which I did not feel at all.
1:17:51
Like I didn't realize it was broken till afterwards.
1:17:54
Got all that adrenaline, literally trying to wrestle, listening
1:17:57
to the ground to choke it.
1:17:59
I'm gonna choke it out, you know?
1:18:00
No, no Tapout this time, man.
1:18:02
That's your shift in hand too.
1:18:04
No cameras or video of this anywhere.
1:18:06
Neighbors.
1:18:07
Someone absolutely there.
1:18:08
There are eyewitnesses.
1:18:10
No, no cameras or anything.
1:18:11
Nobody got pictures.
1:18:12
It's circulating on America's Funniest Home video.
1:18:14
So he's doing like he's doing this.
1:18:23
It's cat slaps.
1:18:24
Yeah.
1:18:24
And I am not a small man.
1:18:28
I'm larger than probably 90% of the, the world's male population.
1:18:33
So the fact that I was struggling with this, I mean, I can't
1:18:37
imagine if it was, I mean.
1:18:38
It's 150 pound deer, but it's like 150 pounds.
1:18:41
Solid Muscle.
1:18:42
Muscle.
1:18:43
Yeah.
1:18:43
Yeah.
1:18:43
One track mind.
1:18:45
It's like no reasoning, just,
1:18:49
is that the sound it made?
1:18:50
Yeah.
1:18:51
It didn't make any sounds.
1:18:53
Is there frosting around its mouth too?
1:18:55
I mean, what's going on here?
1:18:56
We joke, like since we've moved down here.
1:18:58
We've had roaches, we've had bats, we've had mice, we've had chipmunks,
1:19:04
we've had deer now and we've had snakes.
1:19:06
So nice.
1:19:07
And I live in a suburban neighborhood, like 15 minutes outside of Richmond,
1:19:14
the more you know, no, it is a public service announcement for folks, right?
1:19:17
Because there are more deer now because less people are hunting.
1:19:20
And I am not advocating for anything one way or the other,
1:19:22
but it is a concern for drivers.
1:19:24
Tanya's mentioned it before too, 'cause she doesn't use the oxyo.
1:19:27
LED headlights.
1:19:28
See my shameless plug.
1:19:29
So, you know, spotting deer is the thing that you gotta do because
1:19:33
there's more of them out there than there ever has been before.
1:19:36
Dude, I am hell bent.
1:19:38
I'm gonna take up hunting.
1:19:39
I am gonna make it my personal mission to make all of the
1:19:43
white-tailed deer go extinct.
1:19:45
That's a tall order all in.
1:19:50
Meanwhile.
1:19:51
Back of the ranch.
1:19:52
I saw this one and it wasn't quite Florida man worthy, but I figured
1:19:56
Tanya, you'd appreciate this.
1:19:58
Headline Reads, woman doesn't wanna get taken advantage of at the
1:20:02
mechanic, so she puts on the disguise.
1:20:05
That's gotta be the worst fricking disguise.
1:20:07
You know, I thought that at first and then.
1:20:09
As I look more at her.
1:20:12
But is it,
1:20:15
I mean, the TikTok video is the best though.
1:20:17
Oh, I didn't see the booty.
1:20:19
Shorts are a problem.
1:20:20
Like it kind of throws the disguise off a little bit.
1:20:23
I just saw the still shot.
1:20:25
Oh yeah.
1:20:25
Go to the TikTok video below.
1:20:27
But this is where it all falls apart the things people do for views.
1:20:31
Yeah, that's exactly it.
1:20:32
So from like the neck up, it's all Duke's a hazard, but the problem is
1:20:36
from the neck down, it's Daisy Duke.
1:20:38
So there's like, there's nothing left to the imagination.
1:20:42
It's just like, yeah, you're not fooling anybody.
1:20:44
Right.
1:20:44
You didn't go full Peter Sellers here.
1:20:46
Pink Panther style, full disguise.
1:20:49
You know, like, no, sorry, that was a fail.
1:20:51
Well, maybe she thought there was a counter.
1:20:56
Yeah, so that's why this didn't make it to Florida, man.
1:20:59
This has definitely lowered my expectations, lowered expectations.
1:21:08
And speaking of this next one, this cursed road near North Dakota Oil Field
1:21:15
swallows up any truck that tries it.
1:21:17
And I'm like, okay, cursed.
1:21:19
Road cursed by the stupid people that continue to try to drive on it.
1:21:23
Oh my God, that's the only cursed part of this road.
1:21:26
There's a fucking hole in the road and people drive into it.
1:21:30
It's a. This isn't a road, right?
1:21:34
Oh my God.
1:21:35
It's a landslide.
1:21:38
What?
1:21:39
And then they wonder why their built Ford tough.
1:21:41
Got stuck.
1:21:42
I apologize.
1:21:43
Actually, none of these pictures the picked a Ford.
1:21:46
And who was driving that backhoe?
1:21:48
It's flipped over the backhoe.
1:21:50
Can't even make it on this quote road end quote.
1:21:54
It's terrible, but it's hilarious.
1:21:56
I like this caravan that tried to do it.
1:21:59
Video.
1:22:00
Sh.
1:22:00
That truck's getting swallowed up.
1:22:01
I mean, it's underwater again, how hard could it be?
1:22:04
Right?
1:22:04
And this is why I also have said before, reputable news coming from the drive.
1:22:09
This is the stuff that they're reporting on.
1:22:11
I was like, come on guys.
1:22:12
Like, whatever.
1:22:13
All right.
1:22:14
Well I guess it's time we go down south.
1:22:16
Talk about alligators and beer.
1:22:32
Well, we're going down south, but not the florid.
1:22:35
This time we're going to Houston's I six 10 Loop.
1:22:38
Oh, I know this road.
1:22:39
Oh boy.
1:22:40
This would've been fun to witness.
1:22:42
You really have to watch the video.
1:22:44
Oh, no.
1:22:45
So before you watch the video, this guy's sob breaks down.
1:22:48
Well, that's the problem right there.
1:22:50
This other person shows up and I guess someone they know they couldn't
1:22:53
afford a tow truck, so they show up in their SUV to tow the sob.
1:22:57
Go ahead and start watching the video.
1:22:58
They attach the toe strap to the rear of the sob.
1:23:09
Are you serious?
1:23:10
Can you believe what the hell?
1:23:14
You almost have to ask, was this a stunt?
1:23:16
But I don't think, I think it's just dumb people.
1:23:18
Wow.
1:23:20
Holy shit.
1:23:21
And why don't you immediately stop when you realize how fast were you going?
1:23:26
Way too fast.
1:23:28
I mean, that SOB is whipping around.
1:23:30
So not only are they trying to pull the car from the rear.
1:23:35
Obviously the tow hook is on a corner, so they've got the tow strap caddy corner
1:23:41
and then they're like hauling ass down six 10, which is like a 4 95 but straighter.
1:23:47
Oh my god.
1:23:47
Poor car.
1:23:48
And the dude's in the sob, you can see the guy.
1:23:51
There's a guy in the driver's seat.
1:23:53
No.
1:23:54
Okay.
1:23:55
There's dude in the driver's seat and the SOB is just whipping
1:23:59
fishtailing back and forth behind.
1:24:02
Wow.
1:24:02
And allegedly the lady driving the SUV was like laughing.
1:24:06
This is the principle of when in doubt throttle out because
1:24:09
he obviously kept speeding up.
1:24:11
This is insane.
1:24:12
You can see the person in the car trying to counter steer to Correct.
1:24:16
But it's actually, that's what I'm saying.
1:24:17
It's making it worse.
1:24:20
Oh my God.
1:24:21
Well, here's the thing.
1:24:22
Whatever way the car was going, they'd have to go the opposite way.
1:24:25
So they probably were just all over the place In general,
1:24:30
did these people get a ticket?
1:24:31
I hope so.
1:24:33
I mean, they could have caused horrendous accident.
1:24:35
Oh my god, so, so bad.
1:24:37
I mean, poor car, that car is destroyed.
1:24:39
Whatever the problem was that it broke down is like 10 times worse.
1:24:43
Now, the tow truck would've been a far less expensive issue to deal with
1:24:47
and the repercussions of that, but.
1:24:49
Anyway, couldn't find much in the Florida scene.
1:24:51
Not much going on across the country either, but this was the nugget that
1:24:55
I think makes up for the slow month.
1:24:57
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So I don't want to tell you the name just yet, but stay tuned.
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You will know, and it's slightly different and we're hoping you guys will enjoy it.
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And to thank you to our cohost and executive producer Tanya, and
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a big shout out to William, big Money Ross for joining us tonight.
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Well, again, thank you William, for coming on.
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We appreciate you and we look forward to more of your episodes
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throughout the season too.
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And I'm sure we'll have you back on another drive through.
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We're gonna talk about Le Mans Classic.
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Yeah, well we got Hillsborough, we got a lot.
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We got a lot of things coming up.
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We might just have to do a special episode about Le Mans Classic.
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Yeah, I think so.
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That's gonna be a good one.
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So, 'cause there's a lot of things we gotta discuss about that because it's
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gonna be interesting, that's for sure.
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But I appreciate you guys having me on though.
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This has been awesome as always.
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And all the fans, friends and family who support Grant touring, motor sports
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and the Motoring Podcast network.
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Without you, none of this would be possible.
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I think this is a record.
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This might be the shortest one ever.
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It's still gonna be an hour and a half long.
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Peace.
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Hang on, hang on.
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Sorry.
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Stupid audio.
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Go ahead.
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Well, hello?
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Hello?
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Or shall I say Ben?
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Nu.
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Ben Nu.
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Is he frozen?
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Oh,
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it didn't load.
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That's the problem.
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It doesn't load.
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Oh.
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But we have a guest in the house with us tonight to celebrate.
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Le Mansr, are you on mute?
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Did you mute your mic?
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Yeah, it's his new microphone.
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There's a button on it.
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Sometimes you can accidentally hit it and it goes red.
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Ah, there we go.
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That's how he did his other episode.
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I wonder why that was red underneath there.
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He wonders why stuff gets edited.
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You skipped Florida, man.
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Oh, we missed one.
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Oh oh, look at this.
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Look, we have the toilet.
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The they, the, the pinnacle and the pitiful Williams's talking.
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But I think his mic muted itself again.
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Did it?
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Did it turn red?
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Yeah, I did.
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Yeah, I got it.
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Well, here we are in the drive through line.
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Me and her.
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Cars in front of us, cars in back of us all just waiting to order.
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There's some idiot in a Volvo with his bright on behind me.
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I lean out the window and scream, Hey, what ya trying to do blind me?
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My wife says Maybe we should.
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