Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Carlos Mauricio Ramirez on RSL's strong start, RSL vs Houston tonight, World Cup a month away, 49ers offseason + more
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Who we were your tune to The Shan O'Connell Show
- 0:08Speaker 1: for the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of PSPN seven hundred and
- 0:12Speaker 1: ninety two to one a half m to me, Welcome
- 0:19Speaker 1: back to the Shan O'Connell Show. Welcome in for the
- 0:21Speaker 1: first time.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Carlos Mauricio Ramirez. You can find him on Apple TV.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Doing MLS play by play English and Spanish Olympic studio
- 0:32Speaker 1: host over at Telemundo. Forty nine Ers Giants, a's analysts
- 0:39Speaker 1: for NBC Sports Bay Area. If I have my way,
- 0:43Speaker 1: we'll be talking with Carlos quite a bit, especially when
- 0:47Speaker 1: we get into football season.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Carlos, Welcome to the show for the first time. How
- 0:50Speaker 2: are you?
- 0:52Speaker 3: Thank you? Thank you for having me, happy to do it,
- 0:54Speaker 3: and yes, whenever the forty nine ers are back, I
- 0:57Speaker 3: will be happy to join you guys, So my pleasure.
- 1:00Speaker 2: We'll get to the forty nine ers here in just
- 1:02Speaker 2: a second.
- 1:02Speaker 1: But if I'm doing my job the right way, RSL
- 1:06Speaker 1: Houston Dynamo tonight at America First Field World Cup Soccer
- 1:10Speaker 1: coming right around the corner, we got to dive into
- 1:12Speaker 1: some of this a little bit. Let's start with RSL
- 1:15Speaker 1: and a strong start to their MLS season. How much
- 1:19Speaker 1: have you seen of RSL and are you Are you
- 1:20Speaker 1: a believer so far that this is a team that
- 1:23Speaker 1: can actually contend for a Cup this year.
- 1:29Speaker 3: I've called a couple of games, and I think there's
- 1:31Speaker 3: enough there for them with with a move or two,
- 1:36Speaker 3: with an addition or two, to be a really dangerous
- 1:40Speaker 3: team in the Western Conference. And consistency is a big word.
- 1:45Speaker 3: I think this team, which is in my estimation coach
- 1:50Speaker 3: but one of the better coaches in the league in
- 1:52Speaker 3: Pablo Mastriani. It's a new system with three in the back.
- 1:58Speaker 3: The Gozo experiment as a wing bad has convinced some
- 2:02Speaker 3: There's some others who don't like it as much. I
- 2:06Speaker 3: personally like it. If we see the Goso version of
- 2:09Speaker 3: what we saw against Portland a couple of weeks ago.
- 2:11Speaker 3: I was in Salt Lake hauling that game for Apple,
- 2:15Speaker 3: so I love the base. I do think the biggest thing,
- 2:20Speaker 3: or if I were to, you know, if I were
- 2:23Speaker 3: to give real Salt Lake fans a wish, or if
- 2:27Speaker 3: I think Pablo Masrendi was submitted to a lie detector
- 2:30Speaker 3: and you would ask him, what would you like or
- 2:32Speaker 3: what did you need for this team, I would think
- 2:35Speaker 3: you would say a nine, a proper goal scoring nine.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Sergi Salons has done a great job in terms of
- 2:42Speaker 3: hbilitating passes, pivoting, connecting all it. Tun Gi is a
- 2:47Speaker 3: physical specimen in the best of ways. He's a freak.
- 2:50Speaker 3: He's a really athletic player. But they're not bonafide goal scorers,
- 2:55Speaker 3: or at least they haven't been this season. And when
- 2:57Speaker 3: you have the production of Diego Luna and Xavy of
- 3:00Speaker 3: Gozo and the level geep behind a proper nine with
- 3:04Speaker 3: spears in Kaliscan being what they are in the midfield,
- 3:07Speaker 3: that's what I think will now separate Real Salt Lake
- 3:11Speaker 3: from the Vancouvers, the Elliotcu, the Seattles and even the
- 3:14Speaker 3: same those ays of the world. So I do see
- 3:16Speaker 3: there's enough there. If they go out in the in
- 3:19Speaker 3: the winter or the World Cup break and sign a
- 3:22Speaker 3: proper nine, that to me changes everything for Real Salt Lake.
- 3:28Speaker 1: You just mentioned the World Cup break, and it's something
- 3:30Speaker 1: that you know, we've We've been kind of like I've
- 3:33Speaker 1: been laying it out.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I've been preparing where we have adopted.
- 3:37Speaker 1: We are a soccer market here now in Salt Lake City,
- 3:40Speaker 1: a lot of people were bummed, myself included. Although it's
- 3:43Speaker 1: understandable that, you know, not a host city for the
- 3:46Speaker 1: North American World Cup, but a lot of people have
- 3:49Speaker 1: already made their travel plans. I've spent I think too
- 3:52Speaker 1: many segments probably talking about transportation and ticket prices for
- 3:57Speaker 1: the premier sporting event every four years in the world.
- 4:01Speaker 1: But one of the big questions people have is will
- 4:04Speaker 1: Real Salt Lake have any representation on the international ultimate stage.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Will the moon Man be on the.
- 4:12Speaker 1: US men's national team when the deadline comes in three weeks.
- 4:17Speaker 3: I think he will. I think he should. When you
- 4:19Speaker 3: look at that loster and when you dice it up,
- 4:23Speaker 3: there's no player that does what Diego Luna can do
- 4:27Speaker 3: in the sense of tempo management, connection with forwards, being
- 4:33Speaker 3: able to change the rhythm and the pace of a
- 4:36Speaker 3: soccer match. Polistic can do what he can do. No
- 4:39Speaker 3: one else can do as well inside the microcosm of Pusay.
- 4:43Speaker 3: But what Diego Luna brings is he might not be
- 4:47Speaker 3: going back to the physical specimen or the physical freak
- 4:50Speaker 3: that some players are at this stage. He might not
- 4:53Speaker 3: be that. What he is, though, is a He is
- 4:57Speaker 3: the conductor of a midfield up on it. You can accelerate,
- 5:02Speaker 3: you can come from behind, connect the dodge with either
- 5:05Speaker 3: musa or a ballagoon or prolific or whoever you want
- 5:09Speaker 3: to put on the top. And I understand you need
- 5:11Speaker 3: some muscle behind them with mackenzie and that that will happen, Right,
- 5:16Speaker 3: We'll let some mckennie. That'll happen. But I do my
- 5:19Speaker 3: expectation is that Diego Luno, when it's all sat and done,
- 5:22Speaker 3: will be picked between the twenty six players that Portatino
- 5:24Speaker 3: will bring to the World Cup.
- 5:29Speaker 1: I feel like that would be that there would be
- 5:32Speaker 1: enough reason for the casual fans, like the kind of
- 5:36Speaker 1: the people on the bubble, so to speak, to tune
- 5:39Speaker 1: in a little extra, maybe maybe add a little more
- 5:42Speaker 1: intrigue to the low maybe.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Maybe push someone over the hump. I'm like, all right,
- 5:46Speaker 2: I am going.
- 5:46Speaker 1: To travel to San Francisco, Houston or LA to go
- 5:49Speaker 1: watch a US men's national team game.
- 5:51Speaker 2: And look, you've been closer to this than I have.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Uh, do you get a sense And we've seen all
- 5:55Speaker 1: the articles, We've seen some rollback in prices transportation. You know,
- 6:00Speaker 1: there was like the bus ticket was going to cost
- 6:02Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty bucks. People got mad about it,
- 6:04Speaker 1: so they've reduced the cost on that kind of thing.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Is FIFA and the World Cup sort of community? Are
- 6:12Speaker 1: they responding the right way to some of the concerns
- 6:16Speaker 1: on making this thing accessible to fans, not just North
- 6:19Speaker 1: American fans, but the fans that are making the trip
- 6:23Speaker 1: from Europe, from Africa, from South America to try to
- 6:27Speaker 1: enjoy this once in every four years event.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question, and that is the main
- 6:36Speaker 3: concern with prices is how do we afford this? I mean,
- 6:41Speaker 3: how do we how do we get there? I mean
- 6:45Speaker 3: not just the visa and all those issues that are
- 6:48Speaker 3: you know, ingrained with going to the United States and
- 6:51Speaker 3: you're a foreign citizen or if you're just a tourist,
- 6:53Speaker 3: which are a concern. But even when the government gets
- 6:59Speaker 3: involved and you have US lawmakers seeking transparency you know
- 7:04Speaker 3: from from ticketing, that's that's an issue in and of itself.
- 7:07Speaker 3: So we've heard members of Congress responding to the tickets
- 7:11Speaker 3: for the World Cup, So that is an issue. Most
- 7:17Speaker 3: of the games, or at least tickets for most of
- 7:19Speaker 3: the games, and the remember there's sixteen North American cities
- 7:24Speaker 3: that will host the World Cup. Some tickets have gone
- 7:28Speaker 3: over ten thousand dollars. Right, That's that's obsressive, that's excessive.
- 7:37Speaker 3: But I mean even upset if if you have ten
- 7:39Speaker 3: thousand dollars in your back pocket for a sporting event,
- 7:42Speaker 3: good for you. I mean you're doing something I'm not.
- 7:44Speaker 3: But and then FIFA releases sament saying that they're focused
- 7:49Speaker 3: on ensuring fair access to a game for existing but
- 7:53Speaker 3: also prospective fans. Right, and they're saying there's some tickets
- 7:58Speaker 3: are available at sixty dollars. Those were long gone. And
- 8:04Speaker 3: then the other problem that FIFA has to address is
- 8:06Speaker 3: the resale marketing, and that's another conversation to have, but
- 8:12Speaker 3: it is a problem. Some cities have recorded and reported
- 8:15Speaker 3: some issues with with hotels, saying that they would have
- 8:19Speaker 3: expected at this stage. We're twenty nine days away from
- 8:22Speaker 3: the World Cup starting and some cities have yet to
- 8:25Speaker 3: at least record or notify increase in hotel accommodations and
- 8:35Speaker 3: people not recording or not getting their either airbnbs or
- 8:41Speaker 3: hotel rooms at different rate, So they're not seeing an
- 8:44Speaker 3: increment in hotel accommodations and bookings regarding or compared it
- 8:49Speaker 3: to other summers, which is alarming for those markets. I
- 8:53Speaker 3: think it'll go up. I think as days go buy
- 8:56Speaker 3: and people, you know, see what money they have saved
- 8:59Speaker 3: to go to the World Cup, that will increase. Maybe
- 9:01Speaker 3: I'm just being naive, but it has been an issue
- 9:04Speaker 3: for sure.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I think it is going to go up, and I
- 9:08Speaker 1: think that part of the reason they'll get the more
- 9:10Speaker 1: bookings is I think that these airbnb hosts and the hotels,
- 9:15Speaker 1: especially in the stadiums themselves, they're realizing, like, man, we
- 9:19Speaker 1: actually can't gouge the prices as much as we have been.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I'm realistic, Carlos. I understand that we're talking about a
- 9:27Speaker 1: premier sporting event here and there's a cost associated with that.
- 9:31Speaker 2: It should be maybe twice as much, maybe three times
- 9:34Speaker 2: as much as a normal ticket. The five and ten
- 9:37Speaker 2: x thing just doesn't make a lot of sense.
- 9:39Speaker 1: And for FIFA to pretend, oh, we want to address
- 9:43Speaker 1: the resale market, we want to make it accessible while
- 9:45Speaker 1: also taking a fifteen percent cut of every ticket re sold.
- 9:49Speaker 1: That you're talking out of both sides of your mouth there,
- 9:52Speaker 1: you're not actually trying to serve the fan base. And
- 9:54Speaker 1: by the way, They're not alone. There's plenty of sports
- 9:57Speaker 1: organizations that do this. I wonder if we're ever going
- 9:59Speaker 1: to get to the point though, where we truly price
- 10:02Speaker 1: fans out, especially like you just said, the prospective fan,
- 10:06Speaker 1: and people just truly do get sick of it.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the problem is when when you have
- 10:14Speaker 3: people who are willing and able to pay ten thousand
- 10:16Speaker 3: dollars for your I don't know Portugal, Columbia, imagine Miami,
- 10:24Speaker 3: how do you explain it? Well, is there's someone able
- 10:26Speaker 3: and willing to do it, then we'll keep putting it
- 10:29Speaker 3: out there. So it is an issue. It is a
- 10:31Speaker 3: problem again, president A, FIFA President Johanny and Fantino saying
- 10:36Speaker 3: that World Cup tickets price at US market rate is naive.
- 10:42Speaker 3: It did start that way months ago, but those tickets
- 10:46Speaker 3: were sold out within hours of them being on the market.
- 10:51Speaker 3: The tickets for most of the FIFA World Cup group games,
- 10:54Speaker 3: per Infantino, remain or ranging from thirty three hundred and
- 10:59Speaker 3: eighty dollars to five dollars, so anywhere from four hundred
- 11:04Speaker 3: bucks to four thousand bucks. That is what's happening right now.
- 11:09Speaker 3: And they say we have FIFA says they have a
- 11:11Speaker 3: twenty five percent of group state tickets that can be
- 11:15Speaker 3: bought for less than three hundred dollars, which is not
- 11:18Speaker 3: be I mean, that is not an insane price. I
- 11:21Speaker 3: understand that that that to me sounds reasonable for a
- 11:24Speaker 3: World Cup ticket, if it's under three hundred. I would
- 11:30Speaker 3: ask that Infantino would find me those tickets, because I
- 11:34Speaker 3: have yet to see someone at this stage saying yeah,
- 11:37Speaker 3: you know what I found a ticket for I don't know,
- 11:39Speaker 3: Jordan versus Algeria in San Francisco for under three hundred. Sure,
- 11:43Speaker 3: but I just I mean, I haven't seen it at
- 11:45Speaker 3: this point.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Carlos Maurcio Ramirez is our guest here talking about a
- 11:50Speaker 1: World Cup soccer.
- 11:51Speaker 2: On the shot of Connell's show.
- 11:53Speaker 1: One thing, all of my complaining in my handbringing aside,
- 11:57Speaker 1: one thing that we will pay for in the United
- 11:58Speaker 1: States is we'll pay to.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Watch a winner.
- 12:01Speaker 1: And if the US men's national team could make a
- 12:03Speaker 1: run those ticket prices, people will pay whatever it is
- 12:07Speaker 1: to watch elimination rounds.
- 12:09Speaker 2: How realistic is a nice run? I'm not talking about
- 12:16Speaker 2: winning the World.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Cup here, but is there a ceiling in your mind
- 12:19Speaker 1: for this men's national team?
- 12:22Speaker 3: Well, it's Group D, it's USA, Paraguay, Australia, and Turkey.
- 12:29Speaker 3: That Team USA should advance I mean winning the group.
- 12:34Speaker 3: I don't know. I hope so advancing sure. I would
- 12:38Speaker 3: even say it's mandatory for Team USA to advance within
- 12:43Speaker 3: the confines of Group D. Then it's well, do you
- 12:49Speaker 3: have to knock out? Rounds are really hard to predict.
- 12:52Speaker 3: If they win their group, and that's Group D, they
- 12:55Speaker 3: would play July first in San Francisco against the third
- 13:00Speaker 3: team out of either Group B, E, F, I or G.
- 13:05Speaker 3: And now you're just you know, flipping a coin, right.
- 13:09Speaker 3: It could be anyone. I mean not literally anyone, but
- 13:13Speaker 3: let's say Group B if they're for if they're the
- 13:17Speaker 3: number one seed out of Group D. Group B is Canada, Bosnia,
- 13:23Speaker 3: Qatar in Switzerland. So it could be USA, Canada, It
- 13:27Speaker 3: could be USA, Switzerland, it could be USA Bosnia. Anyone
- 13:30Speaker 3: who comes out of that group in the third spot
- 13:33Speaker 3: could be there. Let's go to Group E, which could
- 13:36Speaker 3: also be paired there. Well, it's Germany, curisl Ivory Coast
- 13:40Speaker 3: or Ecuador. Well, Germany or Ecuador I think will bring
- 13:44Speaker 3: that group. So maybe it's Ivory Coast. Well, it could
- 13:47Speaker 3: also be a good Group F. That means it's it's
- 13:51Speaker 3: the third team from Netherlands, Japan, Sweden and Tunisia. Well,
- 13:54Speaker 3: it could be either Japan or Sweden that comes out
- 13:57Speaker 3: of that group on the third spot. Then it could
- 13:59Speaker 3: be Group BY and you're seeing a training here. I'm
- 14:02Speaker 3: just I'm just giving you names. France, Senegal, Iraq or Norway.
- 14:06Speaker 3: Well it's either Iraq or Senegal that's third because France
- 14:09Speaker 3: and Norway are going to fight for group supremacy. And
- 14:13Speaker 3: then the final one and please bear with me, it's
- 14:15Speaker 3: Group J. That's how I say this World Cup will
- 14:17Speaker 3: be and that could be Argentina, Algeria, Austria and Jordan.
- 14:22Speaker 3: So you're seeing here a trend of teams that are
- 14:25Speaker 3: not you know, world beaters or world thumpers who would
- 14:28Speaker 3: face Team USA. If tm USA wins Group D and
- 14:33Speaker 3: if they do that, then I'm not gonna boy you
- 14:35Speaker 3: with the other combinations because they're infinite. They would move
- 14:38Speaker 3: to the round of sixteen. So all all to say,
- 14:41Speaker 3: I think that the flour for Team USA should be
- 14:46Speaker 3: at least a round of thirty two and then I
- 14:49Speaker 3: can see them advancing and beating one of those teams
- 14:52Speaker 3: making it to the round of sixteen, and then all
- 14:55Speaker 3: bets are off, right, because if if that happens, then
- 14:59Speaker 3: they would face the winner of Group G, and that
- 15:03Speaker 3: Group G would be Belgium, Egypt, Iran, or New Zealand,
- 15:06Speaker 3: so it could be tam Usa against Belgium. All thats
- 15:10Speaker 3: are off, so I could see them at least make
- 15:12Speaker 3: it into the round of sixteen, at least.
- 15:15Speaker 1: All Right, Before I let you go, I want to
- 15:17Speaker 1: ask you a little inside baseball question. I do play
- 15:20Speaker 1: by play myself on combat sports, not on soccer, not
- 15:25Speaker 1: yet on football, which is where I'd like to be
- 15:27Speaker 1: at some point. But you do English and Spanish play
- 15:31Speaker 1: by play commentary, and I have a deep admiration for
- 15:35Speaker 1: people who are multi lingual, and especially in a professional setting.
- 15:40Speaker 1: The ability to switch back and forth, to do an
- 15:43Speaker 1: English game on a Monday, a Spanish game on a Friday,
- 15:47Speaker 1: whatever it is, that's a different level. My question for
- 15:51Speaker 1: you is is one more fun than the other? Because
- 15:55Speaker 1: there's a different there's a different sound, there's a different formality,
- 16:00Speaker 1: there's a different formatics to the way English sports are
- 16:03Speaker 1: done and Spanish sports are done, and Portuguese and Japanese. Right,
- 16:08Speaker 1: each language kind of has its own rhythm and its
- 16:11Speaker 1: own pace. Is one more fun than the other when
- 16:14Speaker 1: you're doing English or Spanish commentary?
- 16:17Speaker 3: That's a great question. I'll put it this way. I think,
- 16:25Speaker 3: I don't think. I know. I know that there's a
- 16:29Speaker 3: level of energy and excitement that is not just allowed,
- 16:34Speaker 3: but expected of one when you call any sport in Spanish,
- 16:39Speaker 3: whether it's football and I've been the voice of Sunday
- 16:42Speaker 3: Night Football for tell them Window I did it in
- 16:44Speaker 3: twenty twenty one leading up to the Bengals and ram
- 16:49Speaker 3: Super Bowl, or whether it's what I'm going to do
- 16:51Speaker 3: now here. I'm in Seattle right now, I'm going to
- 16:53Speaker 3: call the Seattle Sounders and Sanders a game tonight for
- 16:56Speaker 3: Apple and Spanish. Whatever the sport, there's not just license,
- 17:00Speaker 3: but an expectation that you should be loud, raucous, boisterous
- 17:08Speaker 3: and demonstrative when you do play by play. Not doing
- 17:13Speaker 3: it is pretty much anti cultural. Well, the opposite happens
- 17:16Speaker 3: in English. I mean, I can't call a game in
- 17:19Speaker 3: English the way I call in Span I would be
- 17:21Speaker 3: I get fired. No one would be able to handle
- 17:28Speaker 3: ninety minutes of soccer the way do it in Spanish.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Because it's it's just different, it's it's culturally different. Fun
- 17:35Speaker 3: is different because what I like about English play by
- 17:38Speaker 3: play is you have these pockets, and you have this
- 17:45Speaker 3: linguistic licenses and tools that English has that Spanish doesn't. Uh,
- 17:53Speaker 3: there's a way you can phrase and construct and use
- 17:56Speaker 3: certain terminology that Spanish doesn't have, especially in sports like
- 18:01Speaker 3: baseball or football. So I would definitely say soccer is
- 18:06Speaker 3: way more fun in Spanish. But I would also say
- 18:09Speaker 3: sports like football are more fun in English. So I
- 18:15Speaker 3: would say it depends on the sport. I would rather
- 18:18Speaker 3: call a game or a soccer game in Spanish. But
- 18:22Speaker 3: I've also been able to blend or bring in or
- 18:24Speaker 3: read some of the Spanish calls or energy on the
- 18:28Speaker 3: English side, and what I've found is that fans really
- 18:32Speaker 3: appreciate it. You really like it when you when you
- 18:35Speaker 3: give that energy without going overboard, without going over too much,
- 18:40Speaker 3: because that's that's not accepted or or even tolerated, because
- 18:44Speaker 3: you know it just it doesn't. So that's the best way.
- 18:48Speaker 3: That's a long winded way of saying that I think
- 18:50Speaker 3: both are fun and I love doing both. And I
- 18:53Speaker 3: appreciate your comment and thank you for that well.
- 18:56Speaker 1: I think it's great that you're able to do both
- 18:58Speaker 1: and I like the over the top nature of Spanish calls,
- 19:02Speaker 1: so I would like that to be integrated more into
- 19:06Speaker 1: the English side of things, and it sounds like you're
- 19:08Speaker 1: doing it. So we're gonna catch some games and we'll
- 19:11Speaker 1: be talking more with Carlos Mauricio Roverrez as the World
- 19:14Speaker 1: Cup approaches, and then into football season when he's working
- 19:17Speaker 1: on the Niners and in baseball pre and postgame with
- 19:21Speaker 1: the Giants in the A's. I can't wait to keep
- 19:25Speaker 1: picking your brain. Carlos, thanks for your time today.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate it. It's a pleasure talking to you guys.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Love Salt Lake City, love the market. I was there,
- 19:35Speaker 3: like I said a couple of weeks ago, for your
- 19:37Speaker 3: RSL game against Portland. It should be a fun game
- 19:41Speaker 3: tonight against Houston, a Houston team that beat loc pretty
- 19:45Speaker 3: badley over the weekend with Ben Elson doing a great
- 19:47Speaker 3: job with those dudes, with Mataos Bogus and company. So
- 19:51Speaker 3: if you're out there in Salt Lake and Sandy, go
- 19:53Speaker 3: to the game. It's a World Cup year. So soccer
- 19:57Speaker 3: mania has taken over a beautiful nation. It support your
- 20:01Speaker 3: local team where the gear. I think that RSL has
- 20:07Speaker 3: perhaps the most intriguing promising US soccer talent right now
- 20:13Speaker 3: in the league with Bolarue from San Jose, and that
- 20:16Speaker 3: is Sep year Goozo, so go and watch him. He's
- 20:19Speaker 3: a Utah native, so go watch him while you can,
- 20:22Speaker 3: because I promise you this kid will not last long
- 20:25Speaker 3: in MLS. He has a bright future ahead of him,
- 20:27Speaker 3: so you should go out and see him play every
- 20:29Speaker 3: time you can
- 20:31Speaker 2: Well, stated Carlos Mauricio Ramirez