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- Jacob Bunce: Alright, welcome back to fade or follow. We got a crazy ass episode. we're going to do a little recap of of Sunday, noon games, three PM, night games. We're gonna talk a little Monday night football. our leans going into tomorrow night. Grant and I, if you follow our Twitter, had a fucking great weekend. some bad beats, unfortunately, but overall like crushed it. So Fade or Follow: Yeah, absolutely. Jacob Bunce: Grant, why don't we go ahead and start with with some of the recaps for for those that unfortunately don't follow us on Twitter. Fade or Follow: Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, so we went two and two on our side bets, two and on our anytime touchdown scores, and one and on our parlay. So absolutely amazing s absolutely incredible Sunday overall 'cause we had Kra Tyler Cra Tucker Kraft's touchdown score at plus two sixty five. So absolutely massive hit. Yeah. Jacob Bunce: After he dropped the easy one too. Fade or Follow: And and then he yeah, they had to challenge it to get the touchdown back 'cause they called it incomplete at first. So absolutely Jacob Bunce: Mm-hmm. Fade or Follow: massive swing there. Jacob Bunce: Poca. Fade or Follow: crazy Puka coming back from the hip injury, that was the most obvious bet that should have hit and it did. So he he was a little quiet to start, but he's he's Puka Nakua. He's gonna get his he's gonna get his and cra dude crazy game that was a crazy game between the Rams and the Eagles as well. Like e Eagles blowing that game, like Jacob Bunce: Insane. Fade or Follow: f forced him into a r basically forced him into a re rebuild. They traded Lane Johnson retired two a couple of days ago. their sa they just traded their center away to the Baltimore. Like Eagles are in and tank tank Bigsby Saquon both out for an extended period of time. Like Eagles are in shambles right now so Jacob Bunce: Yeah, R. I. P. my my dynasty on that. Well actually a sub talk dynasty 'cause you're gonna just probably be more sad than I am. Fade or Follow: I'm worse than yeah, exactly. I'm like I I'm I'm worried, I'm like the Miami Dolphins in Dynasty, bro. Like that's I that's been like Yeah. nine yeah, that w outright winner there. Yeah. Nine minus three that yeah, it was literally Jacob Bunce: Yeah, we don't mean sensitive subject. So we had Pats plus seven, that was great. I mean, you know, i that was just like your perfect buy low spot. Yep, easy peasy Niners, that was kind of a sweat till the end and they kinda pulled away. Fade or Follow: th it was like three to three for like the fit majority of that for majority of that game and then the Niners Jacob Bunce: Forever. Yeah. It i it was such a boring game. And then it got to Fade or Follow: Yeah. It was literally might have been the b more the then the then they kind of scored a touchdown and then they started pulling away a little bit and it wasn't that sweaty at the end. But yeah, that was that might have Jacob Bunce: Agreed. Fade or Follow: been the most boring that might have been the most boring game I've seen in a long time. Yeah. And then we had the moneyline par. Vikings. And Yeah, the Jacob Bunce: It was so boring. And then the parlay was Chiefs, Ravens, Vikings. that was that was nice. And then for those so so obviously Grant and I like we have bets that aren't public. You know, we kinda have our normal, like these are our big plays, and then we'll put, you know, half units or whatever we're feeling like on some other plays. So I snuck belt another three leg parlay that I was very, very confident was gonna hit. I had Rams plus three and a half, which they one outright. Bills plus three and a half, which they lost by three, so that was a a sweat. And then I had Texans plus three and a half and they lost by four. So that was Fade or Follow: Yeah and the way that way the way that four the way they lost by four was brutal. They literally took the lead Jacob Bunce: Mm. Fade or Follow: with like a minute left and the Cowboys went down and scored a touchdown to w beat by four. So yeah, crazy. Like that the brutal Yeah. C D C D no, that was crazy. C D was c C Jacob Bunce: Yeah, C D was just out of his mind. No one was guarding him. They were playing zone and it was horrible. I don't I don't or or maybe they're playing man and they just I don't know, but it was very frustrating to watch 'cause Fade or Follow: D I've never I've never seen it a receiver eat like C D. Like outside of like Megatron. Jacob Bunce: Well I texted Grant and I like, Bro, we're we're literally gonna fucking lose 'cause the Rams are gonna lose, like by a bunch, and then they came back miraculously, and then the Bills barely covered, Fade or Follow: Yeah. Jacob Bunce: and I'm like, my god and then kicked in the dick. So Fade or Follow: The th yeah, they they they gave you so so much hope and then they just tore it like then they pulled off the football. the Jacob Bunce: Yeah, then they ripped my guts out. And then a a a sneak bet just for the people I've gotta you know, maybe I'll do better at posting these live, but these like you would have to see my tweet within three minutes to be able to bet this, but I was Fade or Follow: Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah, this bet's crazy. But go, yeah, please. Jacob Bunce: It's so dumb. I have one of these every year. Last year I did this with Marvin Harrison Jr. And it was the live fourth touchdown score for the Bills game. And I so r so ridiculous. Fade or Follow: So stupid. So stupid. Jacob Bunce: And I bet fifty bucks and I picked Josh Allen and he and he got it and I won three hundred dollars. So that was a nice little recuperation. but again, so overall like great day. We had some bad beats, but it's funny like Fade or Follow: Yeah, overall. Jacob Bunce: Grant is my bookie and then I'm his in a sense now. Like we have our own books and we live in states that's legal, so it's just funny that we have balances with one another. And Grant was at like zero dollars and now he's just like Warren Buffett in my sports book right now. So we're having a nice we're having a nice little time. And then Sunday night football, Panthers plus four and Fade or Follow: Yeah. Panthers plus four and a half. Jacob Bunce: a half, so that was that was nice. And then why don't you walk us through Monday night? Fade or Follow: Yeah, so we had Falcons so we ha Falcon we had obviously the Jacob Bunce: Money line, right? Fade or Follow: Falcons Falcons say yeah, Falcons money line straight up. Little little it was like minus one five when we took it. Honestly we could have gotten a plus sign in front of it if we had taken it earlier in the day, but late money came in on Atlanta. and then we had as but that was then we had Pitts yards, which was like twenty nine and a half, which is crazy for a third overall pick that his line is that low. Shouldn't have been that hard. And then we had Olave anytime touchdown. Falcons money line s easy peasy, Bijan Robinson, Brian Robinson combine combined for five touchdowns. Saints can't stop a cold, so easy easy winner there. Pitts yards that in the first quarter Jacob Bunce: I have a sweat until the last bits of the game. Fade or Follow: Kind of a sweat. Yeah. Yeah, no. And like and that's the thing that's crazy is like he there in the first quarter he played one snap in the first in the like there was like a sign there were like people saying like w there are two tight ends that have s played more snaps than Kyle Pitts in the first quarter of this game. Like what's going on with Kyle Pitts? And then he has and that Jacob Bunce: I forgot about that. You're right. I was like, We're cooked. Fade or Follow: And I like I well, I guess that's fucked up. And then I was just kinda like, all right, well that sucks. And then he gets a couple of c he he k yeah. He cut e Jacob Bunce: And then Olave has the best game ever with no touchdown. Fade or Follow: yeah, exactly. He cut and then but Pitts gets nineteen yards going into half and then he has nothing the entire second half and I'm like, Alright, we're fucked again and then And then he breaks off a 30 yarder and cashes the entire prop on one play halfway through the fourth quarter. I'm like, what were you sweating for? I'm like, that was so dumb. But but honestly though, Pitts three catches and he's not even like the number one tight end right now. And like Panix isn't even really looking at him right now. So really gotta stay away f that was a good spot for him, but I don't think we become Kyle Pitts investors by any stretch. Yeah. Jacob Bunce: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. That was sorry, I was looking at my T V raise just went up four two. Should've bet the house on Grant. Fade or Follow: Sheesh Yeah, no you're saying. I I I have no I I have no idea about that series, so I wasn't that s I wasn't that confident. and and then we Jacob Bunce: No, it's okay. I'm joking. Me too. Fade or Follow: had Yeah, yeah. And then we have a lot then we had Olave any time touchdown. He had eight catches for a hundred and eleven yards, but couldn't find the end zone. So kinda had the read right, like right read, wrong result is how I describe that one. So overall, two and one night. Jacob Bunce: You know what's funny? I remember looking at his we were looking at his receptions line and it was at eight. Seven was like minus one sixty four and eight was like plus one hundred thirty five or something like that. Fade or Follow: Yeah. Yeah. And we're yeah. And and his yard. Damn. Fuck. Yeah, we could have yeah, been that would have been he he honestly the Jacob Bunce: But that's like who wants to bet an eight reception bet? That's insane. Fade or Follow: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no, exactly. Like that's not like yeah, exactly. It's just so many and it's like honestly he didn't even get it until like the literally the last play of the fourth quarter when he was in. So can I tell so can I tell Jacob Bunce: Yeah, dude. Fade or Follow: you a s can I tell you a story? Real quick about we talk I know Jacob Bunce: Lay it on me. Fade or Follow: we weren't gonna we we weren't gonna talk about fantasy, but real quick in our twelve man league I was playing Pisano, I was down by sixty points going into Sunday night football. so I need I had t San Laporta Tyler Shug and Chris Olave left to go. And I'm like, alright, I just need 20 points out of each guy. I'm like, all right, I can we can get there. And Jacob Bunce: It's manageable. Fade or Follow: it's manageable. So it's like I need a good game out of all of these guys. So Sam Laporta, he gets that fourth quarter touchdown that doesn't really mean anything, but he gets it into his 20. I'm like, or he gets into like 22 ish. I'm like, all right, we're all right, we're alive. We have we have like a like a 40% chance on the little graph thingy. And then and then Tyler Shug comes out hot. Chris Olave comes out hot. He has the 44 yard bomb on the first drive. Like, okay, we're we're like we have so much life here. And then Tyler Shuck kind of scuffles around for the last little bit of the game, kind of just gets a he gets once he gets a couple of big bombs, gets some yardage, gets some whatever, get Olave's obviously having a good game. So but I'm like, but it comes down like it's literally ninety-nine percent to one percent. So I'm like, it's thank it thinks I lost. Last like minute and a half left of the game, Tyler Shug drives drives down the field. I need like nine points in one drive. He hits two bombs it hits two. Two s like ten yard passes to Olave, and then he throws a garbage time touchdown to d Devon Vale, and I win by two. So I Jacob Bunce: Sana was sick. Fade or Follow: was like, my god. I was texting him. I was like, Sano, I'm on your tail. And I'm like, and then I was like, I'm not on your tail. And then it was like, I'm on your tail again. So no, that was a so I didn't even like honestly, like Yeah, yeah, Jacob Bunce: You're like, I'm in, do you feel it? Fade or Follow: no, it I'm like I'm like at the death, you know, but it was like dude, I haven't won a game like that in years. usually get like caught up in those. I I don't I usually lose those. I don't normally win Jacob Bunce: Yeah. Fade or Follow: those. So and dude honestly it's really hard for me to Yeah, yeah. Yeah. yeah out of out of a waddle. It was waddle. It was waddle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's like we're at the gym Yeah, so Jacob Bunce: That was like me and your brother week one. Like he was winning the whole time and he needed like three points and I can't remember who he had, but it was like a star receiver. Yeah, waddle. And then he got like two point six points and I was like, my gosh. But he got me good last year, so that was I know if you're listening, that was payback from last year, so you know. Yeah, we're one and one on that on that. Fade or Follow: Yeah, I guess you're just r he he do he does listen. He he does listen. He Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Alright, no, but that was a great fantasy. So that that was an enter very entertaining Sunday night Monday night football game overall and honestly the a lot of the in the I thought Yes, yeah, they're both of them had like seventy plus points. Yeah. Yeah. Jacob Bunce: That was great. I mean both of both of were good. I mean, like the Panthers game was good, Panthers I mean both reads were great. Like for those that have been really following our our prime time games, we have two losses in primetime on sides. We have two since the beginning of the game and that includes the first Fade or Follow: In particular, yeah. Since since like yeah, we've been crushing. Yeah. Jacob Bunce: Wednesday night game too of the season. So yeah, it's been it's been great. Fade or Follow: We've been crushing. Yep. Fall especially on prime time. Yeah. Sunday afternoons were we're okay, but prime time. Yeah. Thursday. Yeah. Ten and two now. Yeah, it's gotta be. It's gotta be eleven might be eleven and two. Yeah, because you were eight and two Jacob Bunce: no, that's what said, yeah, prime time, like s exclusively. Like prime time, like we are I think ten what is it, ten and two now or ele or eleven and two, whatever it is. Yeah, eleven and two. Fade or Follow: last week when when he did this, and then now it's now we won we went we won Thursday night, we won Sunday night, we won Monday night. So absolute like heater on prime time. I don't know if it's the squares are just grubbing right now, but we are w eating. So that was yeah, we're doing good. So tomorrow s tomorrow night. So moving in Jacob Bunce: Yeah, so for tonight or tonight. my gosh, I wish it was tonight. Tomorrow night. Yeah, so Bucks, Cowboys, lines eight and a half. we have a couple plays and funny enough, Grant and I were aligned on both of them, so feel pretty good about it. You know, obviously the Cowboys had that win last week against Houston. Drive, game wouldn't drive. Cowboys are who they are. I don't think their defense is amazing. Bucks secondary is kinda banged up. Eight and a half points is a lot. And if the over under is forty seven and a half too, like that just tells me it's probably gonna be a closer game. you know, without getting too deep into it, I think both of our guts were originally just plus eight and a half bucks. they're and four. Honestly, like this might be wild. Fade or Follow: And they've they've they've only l they've only lost the their games by an average of five points. So like they're and four, but they've kept it close ish. Close ish. They're not good. Jacob Bunce: I don't think they're going to win, but if they won I wouldn't be like, my God, you know, which is weird to say. Fade or Follow: No. Yeah no it would be the it would yeah, it'd be a very cowboys loss because it would be very much like a remember that's like it's like the mhm. Yeah, Jacob Bunce: Especially right after this Houston dub, like it's it's the perfect thing for the Cowboys. Fade or Follow: absolutely. They come out, yeah, for sure. Yeah, so I I yeah, I I think box plus eight, yeah, I like everything I fully aligned with everything you said. I think it's just too many points. I think Jalen Daniels coming the they have a rookie quarterback still in for Baker. I I've seen he I've seen him play at Kansas. He can play. He he has he can he's an offensive weapon for these guys. He's gonna increase like Baker can scramble, but Jalen Daniels can run and the Cowboys have struggled with mobile quarterbacks throughout over the years and especially this season they're giving up the most Russian quarterbacks. rushing yards two quarterbacks this year. So that's a look. we also love, love, love George Pickens anytime touchdown score. The CD Jacob Bunce: Yeah, I mean like for like how the fuck has he not scored? Like this is a and Fade or Follow: Yeah. Jacob Bunce: if you listen to our college shows too, wait, who the fuck were we just talking about this with? Why am I Was it college or was the NFL? There's another guy that hasn't scored and we just got him. Fade or Follow: it was c wasn't it was craft. No no, Puka's been injured, so I think it was c it was craft. Yeah. Yeah. Jacob Bunce: Was it Puka? it was craft. No it was craft. It was craft. It was totally yeah. It's the same thing. It's like how the fuck has this guy not seen the end zone yet? So i Fade or Follow: Yeah, the end zone. Yeah, absolutely. And and he's been getting receptions. He's been involved in the offense. He just hasn't scored. And he isn't he's a n he's a red zone threat. He can go up and get it. Like and like so I think he's just due. Like he also is a big play threat, so he can do either way and I think he's just due for one. I think Javante Williams has been getting all the goal line work and he still might get his, but I think Jacob Bunce: Sure. Fade or Follow: I think I think I think Pickens is just so so do and he's in a contract year too, so he is Just due for it, and I think him not having a touchdown at this point is an anomaly. Jacob Bunce: criminal. Well and and you know, we were talking about this before we started recording. It's like C D Lamb had one of the craziest games last week against Houston and went absolutely nuts, like looked like Megatron out there and and was catching everything, was a was a beast. Fade or Follow: Seventeen s yeah. Seventeen catches. Yeah. Jacob Bunce: So, you know, it's it's only a matter of time and now everyone's gonna like, C D touchdown, C D this, C D that, C D over yard, C D over reception. And like it's gonna be a a corner route The pick ins from the eight yard line. I'm calling it now. Single coverage, one on one. Yep. Fade or Follow: Yeah. Single coverage. One on leave they're gonna leave they're gonna roll the safety to seed. Yeah, down the yeah, over the middle, just streaking down the middle of the field. I'm calling it now. and then our s other soft lean, we may not get to the table with it just because every prime time game has gone over for like the past like four or five games. So our soft lean is the over forty seven and a half, but it's like that just feels too easy, and usually when it's too easy it sometimes is. But this Jacob Bunce: Yeah. It'll be a game time decision. Fade or Follow: yeah, if we s we might sprinkle on that. And then our first touchdown score that we give out every week, we are so so beyond unbelievably due. And to be fair, you only have to hit one. And it pays for like a month's worth of these. So it's ten dollars. It's all ten dollars a week. It's Jacob Bunce: This is probably the worst first touchdown streak we've been on. I mean like even last year we'd hit him every like two, three weeks. And it's been it's been cold. And then I hit that Josh Allen one and that piss it's like I'm I was happy about it. But it's like why can't I maybe it maybe my secret, Grant, Fade or Follow: Yeah, I know for sure. We four yeah, yeah. We have we have not Yeah, it's been cold. Yeah. Yeah, but you didn't do it. 'Cause we do this in Jacob Bunce: is the fourth touchdown score. Fade or Follow: Yeah, no honest. Seriously. Just Yeah, we No, we gotta start betting second no. Jacob Bunce: Maybe I gotta start doing the fourth touchdown score. Fade or Follow: We we we no we we no we you know we start doing we bet start betting last touchdown scores instead of first touchdown scores. Jacob Bunce: Well, we have we have had a couple of our first touchdown guys score second, which has been annoying. Yeah. Fade or Follow: It's B the la no for sure. Yeah, for sure. And Kelsey it does happen with Kelsey a few weeks ago. I remember it very vividly. It was very upsetting. because I was 'cause Jacob Bunce: Yeah. So give us yeah, give us Bucky, like I don't know why. Just one of those things Fade or Follow: First touchdown. Jacob Bunce: like you don't don't overlook it. He doesn't have a touchdown either. So maybe this is just a game that the boys who haven't scored get a get a get a nice little tutty. And Fade or Follow: Yeah. Well yeah, everyone's due. Jacob Bunce: if if Tampa's gonna be in this game I could see them coming out, they're gonna have to get a nice first drive or second drive after a defensive stop and give the boy give the boy Irving a Fade or Follow: Yeah. Absolutely. They're gonna come out des Jacob Bunce: the ball. Fade or Follow: They're gonna be desperate for sure. Like that's the thing is like they're like yeah, and like people were Jacob Bunce: Dude, they're owing four. Who I would have like bet you a a thousand dollars I wouldn't have they wouldn't have been owing four. Fade or Follow: Yeah, no. The Texans too. The Texans, Chargers and Bucks all be Yeah, Texans, Chargers and Bucks all being Jacob Bunce: Same. Yeah. Crazy. Fade or Follow: Yeah, like you could like you could have offered me anything to say one of those team would have a win in the first month of the season, I would have taken your like I would have taken anything on that. And Jacob Bunce: Same. Fade or Follow: the fact that none of them ha yeah, it's like that's just the that's just why the NFL is so good. And the fucking Raiders are three and one. So what the fu you know what I mean? Like like what are we d like what's going on? So it the NF Jacob Bunce: So are the Browns. Fade or Follow: Yeah, and the brown my god, I that that like I'm like I'm like happy for the city of Cleveland, but like Deshaun Watson, like not like I think he's eaten enough shit at this point, to be totally honest. He has been eating nothing but dump trucks of shit for the past three years. So and he is but the thing is he's still like got t a quarter Billy, so he's not hasn't eaten that much shit. So it's kind of like I don't know, I just I don't want him I don't want to see him succeed. I am a Deshaun Watson hater, but it's because he's just Jacob Bunce: Yeah, he's looking Fade or Follow: asshole but he looks good. Jacob Bunce: good. Their defense looks great too. Fade or Follow: Yeah, th no and their r young core is looking good. Shout out Judkins hitting for us. and it was Judkins but the other one yeah, but that Jacob Bunce: That was it. It was Judkins. It was Judkins. craft was another guy, but what I was thinking was Judkins. Fade or Follow: yeah, so it is yeah, no it was very yeah, no, that was literally what we discussed. It was like why how is Judkins not scored yet and you nailed it. Yeah, absolutely. Jacob Bunce: Yep. They even had a rushing touchdown and it was like this has to happen. Fade or Follow: Yeah, exactly. So do. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, no, so I the on the this is why the NFL's the best. You never know what's gonna happen and that's honestly like it's makes betting on it so fun and so hard at the same time. So just you just never know what the Jacob Bunce: Yeah. Fade or Follow: fuck's gonna happen. So but yeah, so recap Bucks plus eight and a half, pickings any time touchdown, Bucky Irving, first touchdown score, soft lean on the over, and also if you want to do a bunch of receiving and rushing problems. I think this will game will have at least have a lot of yards if it doesn't have a lot of points. So that Jacob Bunce: Yeah, that's fair. Fade or Follow: that's where we're at and and we're on a and we're we are on a really we're on a we're in a good we're in a good spot right now, so let's keep it rolling. and we'll be back for we're playing with Jacob Bunce: Playing with house money. Playing with house money. Fade or Follow: how yeah at this point we're playing with yeah, exactly. We're we're yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say we're Jacob Bunce: So just gotta continue, gotta continue the trend. Fade or Follow: Just k exactly. Just keep doing what we're doing. We're not gonna say yeah. We're not gonna overthink it. We're just gonna keep rolling with what we know and go with that. And then we will be back for our college episode probably on Saturday morning and then we'll be doing our NFL episode on Sunday morning. Anything else? Anything anything you wanna run through? Jacob Bunce: Yep. All right. Well, everyone, no, I I think that's no, I think it's a good recap. We'll talk we'll do a college recap later this week too, 'cause obviously we have some things to talk about that I don't Fade or Follow: Yes. Yep, absolutely. Hundred percent. Jacob Bunce: wanna get into now. But yeah, thanks for tuning in. Obviously like the like the video, subscribe to the page, follow us on social media, please, please, please. obviously this is something we do for fun, Fade or Follow: Yeah, exactly. Yes. We we're putting out content. Jacob Bunce: but appreciate all the support. Fade or Follow: Yep, absolutely. Have a great night everyone