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Superhero Fatigue or Box Office Blues? · Fanatically Speaking with Kent

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Hey everybody, I know you think of us as just
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sports fans and we talk sports a lot on here.
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There's all kinds of fandom out there and guess
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what? We're fans of movies as well. Big fans
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of movies. So go ahead, grab your popcorn. Grab
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your goobers. Jujubees. Those weird people who
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eat hot dogs at the movies. Do you sneak food
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into the movie theater? I used to. Not now. But
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when we got little kids, you sneak in those Capri
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Suns, fit in my cargo shorts. Oh my god, those
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Capri Suns. I haven't had one in forever. Then
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put some candy, popcorn, and some baggies. Wow.
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Smuggling it in, man. Let's do that, yeah. Teach
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your kids. No. No. Would you ever take fast food
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in? Did you ever take like a burger or a hot
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dog in? Or some fries? No. Yeah, I never took
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that in. My go -to, though, is Icy and a popcorn.
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Icy and a popcorn, that's a good mix. I love
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the movie theater nachos. I don't know why nachos
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taste better in the movie theater. They do. Nachos
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is not a bad one. But, you know, crunchy. I don't
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know. Yeah, crunchy, salty. Yeah. I mean, you
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know, like you said, I don't know if I could
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do nachos. That's loud. That's loud food. Yeah,
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but the fake cheese stuff, I have no idea what
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it's made out of. Boy, is it delicious. Yeah.
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Kick back. We're going to go over and discuss
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some movies for you. Yeah. Sit back. Cuddle up.
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podcast and chill what's up everybody welcome
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to another episode of fanatically speaking I'm
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Kent the co -host and promoter I am the log -off
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legend the hater of social media I am the co
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-host and producer of the show today's episode
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we're gonna you know again taking a different
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direction we're gonna dive into movies specifically
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superhero movies in a broad scheme and then we're
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gonna talk about Marvel a little breakdown of
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Marvel movies and the Box office success. Yeah.
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And that's the thing about Marvel movies. They
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crossed over. I felt like superhero movies were
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really kind of straightforward, like it was just
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for dudes. But the Marvel Cinematic Universe
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and all the recent superhero movies that have
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come out over the last decade have been massive.
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A lot of universal appeal. And so we hope all
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of you enjoyed this pie. We're just going to
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go over that real quick. We're big fans of that
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type of stuff. Yeah, definitely caught on to
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the Marvel stuff. It took me a minute, but once
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I was in, I was in. Yeah. And again, when you
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got kids, they suck you in, and then you're all
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watching. You're keeping up and following it,
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right? Got it. And one of the things I wanted
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to talk about today was just superhero movies,
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are they losing their steam? Right? So that's
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a loaded question, because when you say losing
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their steam, how would you define that? So I'm
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a big like looking at, I follow the box office
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success, especially domestic. I know international
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and worldwide is huge and that's a big number,
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but we in the States. So we always looking like,
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how did you do domestically? And you get used
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to something, right? Most Marvel movies and superhero
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movies, they do big box office. That's why they're
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made. They're judged off of what did you do with
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the box office? And then what's that threshold?
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They're not all gonna be Avengers Endgame. They're
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not all gonna be Black Panther, Avengers Infinity
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War, Deadpool Wolverine. Those are some of the
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top ones. At least Marvel -wise, right? But like
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I said, I feel like they're losing their steam.
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And I go by this year alone, right? And specifically
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Marvel. Like we could talk about Superman. It
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has a decent decent showing domestically in the
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350 million range I don't think it reached what
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it should or could or they thought internationally
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But that that's apparently like a all the way
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around Marvel DC doesn't matter right and Marvel's
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always had the upper hand on DC movies right
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outside of yeah outside of Dark Knight series
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It's always Marvel always always they've been
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owning the box office. I I've never cared about
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box office results. It never really mattered
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to me. I mean, I know what some of the bigger
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movies are just because, you know, like historically,
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if a movie's huge, you know, that news kind of
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finds you. But for me, I'm such a movie snob.
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Like, it's pretty difficult to impress me. with
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a movie. Superhero movies have always kind of
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done it for me, but they've also been incredibly
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well done. They tell great stories, they've got
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great characters, good acting, comedic, they're
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funny. But how it performed for me, because a
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lot of people want to rank the success of a movie
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and kind of correlate how much they liked it
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based on how... Everyone else liked it and I
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think that's where I deviate because there are
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a lot of you know subpar movies that I enjoy
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and I liked it and I care less that it made 250
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million when people thought it could have made
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750 true and I get that on some movies and Not
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that say that the Marvel or superhero movies
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are not good But I'm not and not judging off
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the box office, but I think when you're talking
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superhero You're expecting big box office Because
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a regular movie, you can watch and be like, oh,
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it only did 50, 60 million. But you can say,
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well, that's one of the best movies I've ever
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seen in my life. That's true. And there's also
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movies that do big box office. And I'll give
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you one. And we're not even getting into the
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fun comment yet. One of the worst movies I've
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ever seen is The Lion King, the live version.
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Oh, the remake of The Lion King? The remake Lion
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King, live action. One of the worst movies I've
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ever seen. It's not the same as a cartoon. OK.
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And I can see that. But that's just a real thought
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I had there. I don't want to go off on a thing
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there. But again, back to the box office in Marvel,
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like this year alone, you had Captain America,
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Brave New World, $200 million. And I'll save
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my judgment on it. And then I watched Thunderbolts.
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It only did $190. And then you got Fantastic
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Four. It's at 273, so it didn't even break 300.
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And 300's like that threshold, like, for the
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most part. You know, you got those early Marvel
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movies was a little over 300 sometimes, and then
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they might be in the 200s, especially if they
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were origin movies, the story of, you know, Captain
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America, how he came about. They wanted to start
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in most of those movies with that origin. How
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did they become Captain America, Iron Man, Thor?
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And those get a little bit of... Not boring,
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but they're not established yet, so I get that
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part. And then there's just some Marvel movies
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like Ant -Man, you don't expect a lot, right?
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Doctor Strange, even though Doctor Strange, they
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have been big. But this year alone, that's why
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I say, have they lost their steam? Because the
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three movies that have come out this year, just
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sticking to Marvel at the moment, because I think
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350 would be a success for Superman. I need like
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a sounder for when I go into nerd alert or something
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like that. I'll see if I can throw something
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in there. I'm a movie snob, self -proclaimed.
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I'm very specific about what entertainment I
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spend, I take my time to watch, okay? So for
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me, if I enjoy it, I can't attach the success
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of it to how much I enjoy it. That's something
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totally different. But when you talk about the
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steam, if they've lost their esteem as being
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popular. You have to understand, I think there's
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like a line of demarcation. And I believe that
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line was COVID. Okay, I think if you look at
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the drop -off was post -covid when everyone was
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at home and everyone was streaming movies and
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movies were going direct -to -video because they
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had already made these movies and People weren't
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able to actually go out and watch them in the
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numbers that they wanted them to right so I think
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that's the first part but the second part is
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the the evolution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe
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was So well done that I think it placed the bar
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so high for superhero movies that it's like To
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make a sports comparison. It's like Stephen Curry's
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best year It's like Jordan going to six finals
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and winning six rings that line is so high That
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you feel like anything less than that just isn't
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as good when it could be as good It's just not
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that great. So there were cultural movements
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to where you could tell people, hey, you need
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to watch this movie, this movie, this movie,
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this movie, then go see this Avengers movie,
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right? And I think that kind of helped because
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people felt as if they needed to see everything
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in the theater, great experience, just to make
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sure that they were keeping up with the story.
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It was long form storytelling in the form of
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superhero movies, which is something that I don't
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think they're doing their best at right now.
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No, and I agree with that because end game was
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the end game. Correct. Everything you've been
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watching in the movies, in the theater, was leading
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up to that moment. Yes. They had you hooked leading
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up to that moment. The movie comes out, it is
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amazing, it does great, now what? What's your
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chaser? Yeah, you watch the end credits, you
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can't wait, that cliffhanger, you can't wait
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for the next one. And again, though, Thanos,
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one of the greatest villains ever, My favorite
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villain. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, again, you
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got to that point. Now they're starting over.
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Even though I got these stats here, you know,
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Spider -Man, No Way Home, $804 million. Everybody
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went to see it. 2021, right? Again, though, coming
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out of COVID. Right out of COVID. You want to
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get back out. But also, I think, if not the best
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Marvel movie, top two Marvel movie is Spider
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-Man, No Way Home. No spoilers and actually we
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need to say that at the beginning no spoilers.
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No, we will not spoil this for you Yeah, if you
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haven't seen, you know, no way home. I don't
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know what to tell you but Do I need to edit that
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out about no way home I mean again if they haven't
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watched it. I'm being four years old. I'm big
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on spoilers, man I'm big on spoilers. I'm late
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to a lot. So we cut that out. I don't know we
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can it doesn't I might cut that all right good
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and and and they fell into that by the way there
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was no way when they made the toby maguire spider
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-man and then andrew garfield they didn't they
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had no idea that in the future they could have
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a movie With three spider -men in no and and
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all the villains. Yeah everything tied together
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It was in and again and a lot of a lot of cast
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the multiverse It was yeah, I mean they fell
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into it right Deadpool Wolverine also did big
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recently in 24, but again, you're bringing together
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two of the biggest you know comic book superhero
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characters ever Yeah, and they were pretty and
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that was and they had cameos and all that but
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they did that and I you know But but nowadays,
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I'm sorry, but I said nowadays though Like you
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were saying earlier and we talked about the you
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know, you had to go to the movies to build up
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now. It's Disney Plus you got the TV shows you
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got and and it's a lot my next point It's a lot.
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Yeah, and I don't I didn't want to take that
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from you So go for it. Yeah, so so with the and
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that's the other thing, you know with the with
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the streaming and I'll and I'll throw this in
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because one of the things that kind of turned
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me off was the the Black Widow Origin movie where
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it was supposed to be released in theaters, and
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then they pulled it from theaters and released
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it on Disney Plus I don't have Disney Plus right
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and Really movie it was a good movie. There were
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some issues with it with because it was supposed
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to be released into theaters, but But what it
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is is they've got and then they've got all the
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different types of series That are taking place
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on Disney Plus, and I understand what's happening
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They're trying to you know spread things out
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if you can have people subscribe Watch the you
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know movies or shows because before you mentioned
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the the Captain America Brave New World What
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preceded that was Falcon and the Winter Soldier?
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Yeah that series so in order to Understand what
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was going to take place in the new Captain America
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movie you had to subscribe to Disney Plus to
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understand you know so there's a lot of to watch
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the The series to understand what was going to
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happen in the movie so it It seems as if there's
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too much going on. It's much harder to follow
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now than it's ever been, right? But I don't know
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where the focus is for superhero movies. So for
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me, I just try to enjoy what I can. I enjoyed
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the latest Superman movie for what it was. I
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don't feel as if that movie was made for me.
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I feel like it was... I feel like it was intentionally
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a little corny because it had to be, and it worked.
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It was as universal as it, and either you like
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it or love it. I enjoyed it enough, but I also
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understood what they were trying to do. It was
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a vulnerable Superman movie. No spoilers. But
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it was still well done. And I felt like it told
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a great story. So I'm happy with them as a one
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-off. I don't need these Marvel movies to have
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connections in order for me to enjoy them. OK.
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And maybe that's where I'm different. Yeah, but
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they're going to. No, and I understand that.
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But I could watch, and I have not watched the
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Fantastic Four one yet. OK. Again, lose their
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steam. Maybe it's fatigue. Just because I'm looking
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at numbers lately. And again, I think it will.
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Marvel has always kind of went up and down depending
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on the movie. And and again, they've got three
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more on the docket right in the next few years
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and and that is, you know spider -man brand new
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day Avengers doomsday and Avengers secret wars.
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I Have a really funny feeling those three are
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gonna be huge Because we are leading up again
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to something right you want to see dr. Doom you
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want to Now you got it, it's Robert Downey Jr.
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and you're trying to say how is this gonna connect?
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Does it connect? You have people's attention,
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especially superhero comic fans. And Spider -Man
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movies normally do well anyways. So I think all
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three are going to get them back on the upper
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level of the box office and everything. So I
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got a piping hot magma take when it comes to...
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The Doomsday movie. OK. I believe it was a criminal
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oversight for Marvel to announce that Robert
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Downey Jr. was in that movie. I want you to imagine
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how viral it would have been for him to just
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be secretly cast in the movie as lower level
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as maybe some replay. Then you make him the bad
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guy and then it comes out and it's like, holy
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shit Robert Downey Jr The resurgence to reveal
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he's the have that having that as a reveal and
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spoiling it this early to get the buzz going
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Doesn't do as much for me as if you would have
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is if you would have said dude You need to go
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watch this movie and I'm not gonna tell you why
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it I They need to be better at those types of
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things and I think that was kind of a desperate
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play for them to kind of throw that out there
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because they didn't need it and They could have
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promoted that movie as best as they could without
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him and then And then have that reveal be so
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big and carry that momentum into a better than
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average box office performance. Just to kind
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of take us back to money. It makes sense. They
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like to reveal their cast though. They like to
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do that special now grand snippets here and there
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of the back of the director chair, the casting
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chair. So let me ask you this because I did not
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know this. You revealed a spoiler for the Spider
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-Man movie. Well, the four -year -old one? You
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still revealed it, right? Yes. Listen, I'm late
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to a lie, so I understand it. Well, I am, too.
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This is what I mean. So my question for you is,
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before you watched that movie, did you know about
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that particular spoiler? Ooh. I'm trying to remember
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now. Exactly. That's four years ago, so. And
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here's the thing. But I feel as if if you did,
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it would have lessened the surprise for you,
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right? Yeah, I honestly don't remember. OK. I
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was going to watch it either way. No, and I understand
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that. But what I'm saying is for me, knowing
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you and the way you watch movies, I feel like
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if you didn't know, you would have felt better
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about it. It would have been that kind of surprise.
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It would have been. It would have been a nice,
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pleasant experience for you. It would have been.
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As opposed to knowing going in. So it's the same
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thing with Robert Downey Jr. and Doomsday. Just
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for me personally. Okay. I got you. Okay. Next,
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sticking with movies, sticking with superhero.
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We want to talk about best, worst superhero movies.
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Like, what's yours, what's mine? There's a lot
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of them. Or maybe there's just a few that we
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can think of that say, hey, that's the best superhero
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movie I've seen. Well, that's the worst. So I
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like to qualify these types of questions. So
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we're speaking about superheroes as a whole.
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So we're talking about a character. Most of them
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from comic books. Yes, some of them, you know,
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probably from TV Some of them probably just created
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as a superhero. Okay, so all of them qualify
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here Yeah, so you can go with with with best
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and worst Go let's go with your best. Let's go
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with your best and then I'll throw one at you
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So I mean I mentioned this earlier. I mean it's
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and I want to put this again It's easy to say
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Avengers. Okay, because there's what? everybody
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Yeah. Right? Yeah. Ensemble cast. And this is
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a tough one. I say best and favorite. OK. You
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know what I mean? Like, I mentioned Spider -Man,
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No Way Home is, if not the best, it's up there
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of Marvel movies. That's fair. So I don't know
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if I can, you know, like, Dark Knight is a really
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good, you know, again, classic, if one of the
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best superhero movies. Trilogy. Trilogy. But
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just the Dark Knight, you know, with, again,
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Heath Ledger as the Joker, I mean, spoiler. Again,
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if you haven't watched it, I don't know what
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you're doing. Heath Ledger, you're good. Yeah,
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I think I'm good on that one, okay. But yeah,
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and I'm a huge Batman fan, so that's what took
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me a minute to go to Marvel, I think, because
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sometimes it's hard to get me off of what I like.
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And I don't want to give them a chance. And then
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I gave it a chance, and then I was like, oh my
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god, it's the best thing ever. And the same with
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I'm a big Guardians of the Galaxy, which I would
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put that trilogy up with the Dark Knight trilogy.
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OK. You know what I mean? OK. And Spider -Man
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again. I don't think you can go wrong with Spider
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-Man movies. I don't think you can go wrong with
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Guardians of the Galaxy. Best one ever is a tough
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one. I'm probably going to stick with Spider
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-Man No Way Home. OK, and that's a nice, solid,
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nice, solid pick. And I don't think even it was
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so great, I don't think anyone would accuse you
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of recency bias, OK? Yeah, it'll hold firm for
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many years. And I think that's strong. For my
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best, I'm going to go with the template. Am gonna
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go with the historical pick and I'm gonna go
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with one that even this day this time still holds
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up as One of the greatest superhero movie performances
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ever the original Christopher Reeve Superman
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It is a classic through and through it it kind
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of laid the groundwork for what superhero movies
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had the ability to become it I mean, I don't
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know if you could name any movie that Christopher
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Reeve was in before or after, right? Just on
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top of your head? You're right. But it was so
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impactful. And we could talk, you know, the whole
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kneel before Zod and all that. Like, it was such
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a huge movie back then. It held its own for years.
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So much so... So even with all the other renditions
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of superhero movies, they were chasing the success
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of that original. And for me, it holds firm.
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They've tried to remaster it and make it look
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more New Age. Still looks old to me, but I love
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that. Personally, I like it. And different type
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of... different type of superhero movies are
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being made now, where there's a lot more charisma
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and jokey and trendy music and nostalgic and
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all that. So that one was just kind of, no, no,
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no. We can make a really good superhero movie
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and that's what we're gonna do. So let's go ahead
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and shift to what you got for your worst. What
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would you say one of the worst superhero movies
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are? Because I'm gonna upset you. Oh, wow. Oh,
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I'm coming for you, go. Oh, wow. Yeah. I bet
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I know where you're going. I don't think you
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do. I think I do. I don't think you do. So just
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to say this, not to go back into box office.
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The Marvels did the worst box office as a Marvel
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movie. OK. It didn't eclipse 100 million. OK.
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Hold on. I'm sorry. You're saying the movie The
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Marvels. The movie The Marvels, 2023, did not
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eclipse. It did 84 and 1 half million domestically.
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I watched it not as bad. You know, as that, you
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know. The worst one is The Eternals. Okay. Again,
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not a terrible movie. Could have been better.
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And then, of course, I'm, again, it's not, like
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you said, recent, is it me being recently biased?
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I don't know. I mean, I could go back and maybe
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find a superhero movie that was really bad. But
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that one, just stick, stick him in Marvel. Okay,
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yeah, all right mine is full disclosure you are
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a huge fan of this actor You are you are a do
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it. I'm doing it. You're a huge fan of this And
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what I loved about about my pick for what I'm
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picking is the worst superhero movie is that
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most people didn't even realize that this person
23:37
was an actual superhero they didn't realize that
23:40
this person was a character and The reason why
23:44
I'm making this pick is because I feel like how
23:48
they created this movie changed what the character
23:52
was, and it upset me because I was familiar with
23:55
the character before, and I thought that it gave
23:57
them an opportunity to do something edgy and
23:59
different, and I do think that it would have
24:02
helped this particular actor. I'll go ahead and
24:04
stop stalling. It's Hancock, okay? Now, you guys
24:10
are learning right now. Kent might be the largest
24:13
Will Smith fan ever that I've ever seen. Anywhere
24:18
on the planet, this guy loves Will Smith. So
24:21
much so that when we recorded our very first
24:24
podcast, he sat directly across from me wearing
24:28
a shirt of Will Smith smacking Chris Rock in
24:31
the face. That's a real thing. That's a real
24:33
shirt. Dope -ass t -shirt, by the way. I never
24:36
told you that. Great t -shirt. But the character
24:39
of Hancock... Was a very dark Evil edgy type
24:45
superhero, but still a superhero He had his flaws
24:48
which some of them they showed in the movie But
24:51
they never really got into the the details and
24:54
specifics of how edgy and dark he is Some of
24:57
the things in the subject matter surrounding
24:58
how dark he is, I don't even feel comfortable
25:00
saying on this podcast. So feel free to take
25:04
a look into Hancock as a character and see how
25:06
dark and edgy he was. And I feel like putting
25:09
that in a movie, rating it R, would have done
25:11
so much for Will Smith. It would have showed,
25:14
we know he's got acting range, man. Like we get
25:16
it, the dude played Muhammad Ali. We know that
25:19
it could have been done. And seeing some of the
25:21
darker comedies, darker superhero movies that
25:25
have come about, I was very upset that they watered
25:31
down that character and prevented him from letting
25:35
Will Smith be the true representation of what
25:39
that dark superhero actually is. And I'll end
25:42
on this and then I'll let you go. To this day,
25:45
we talked about Thanos being my favorite villain,
25:49
fantastic villain. Hancock was, he's so close
25:55
to the bad guy, but he's still technically a
25:58
superhero. And I think that there was a lot of
26:00
things that they could have done cinematically
26:02
that would have accentuated that. And that's
26:04
why I've deemed it my worst one. Okay. And again,
26:07
I don't think it's a bad movie, but I think I
26:09
know where you're coming from, that you wanted
26:11
it to be more original. and do go all out. But
26:16
I think - Respect what the character is. Don't
26:19
water it down. Give us what we're here for. And
26:21
I'm sure now the makers of that movie realize
26:25
how well Deadpool did, and they're probably like,
26:28
you know, we could have done that. We should
26:30
have not, you know, on the side of caution, we
26:33
should have went all out, gave it its full -
26:36
And on the flip side, and I will say this as
26:39
a counter to Deadpool, they - They're they're
26:44
very they're very there. There's very sneaky
26:46
when it came to Deadpool and here's why they
26:50
With Deadpool they made him silly funny wacky
26:57
Hancock's not those things now Deadpool as a
26:59
character is right. Okay, you're saying they
27:01
made oh, yeah That movie that the Deadpool movies
27:05
are comedies. They are funny and Deservedly so
27:09
that the character lends to that but Hancock
27:12
is not bad, sir He is, it is raw, uncut, unfiltered,
27:18
troubled superhero. Kind of like what, and I
27:21
haven't watched it, but I've seen it, the superhero
27:23
series, The Boys. I don't know if you've seen
27:26
that. I've heard of it, yeah. So imagine that
27:30
times 10. Super, super dark. That's what Hancock
27:34
is feel free to look it up yourself. I promise
27:36
you you won't be disappointed when you see just
27:38
kind of the The swing and what they did with
27:41
Hancock totally different totally different from
27:43
what I expected. Okay All right, everyone as
27:52
you know We like to end our podcast with something
27:54
fun, something silly, something random. So what
27:57
we're going to do is we're actually just going
27:59
to mix this up, keep it movie themed. And we're
28:01
going to go with something that is a recent movie
28:06
disappointment or a surprise. Just kind of something
28:09
that might have caught you off guard with a movie
28:11
that you've seen. Kent, do you have anything
28:14
off the top of your head? Yes. What do you got?
28:18
So. We like to, you know, we talked about superhero,
28:21
but we like to do other movies. You know, my
28:23
son likes scary movies, you know, a little bit
28:27
of suspense. So we sat down not too long ago.
28:31
I don't remember when it was, but the more recent
28:33
memory we, you know, and we got, we watched Trap.
28:37
Never saw it. Okay. Josh Hartnett. Okay. So again,
28:41
I don't want to get into spoilers, but the premise
28:44
- Spoiler alert. Yeah. Spoiler alert. You know,
28:47
the premise he - There is a killer on the loose
28:52
He takes his daughter to this concert her favorite
28:55
singer, right? The the I'm just gonna go through
29:01
a few things that happen in this movie one. I'm
29:04
not gonna give it away, but one thing is He randomly
29:08
leaves his daughter throughout the concert to
29:12
go check different areas of this arena Where
29:16
the police are going? Then he disguises himself
29:19
as, you know, a staff member. Then he talks to
29:22
the T -shirt guy. He's got all these things.
29:25
He's going around, right? Meanwhile, you know,
29:28
the concert's going on. Then he goes to, you
29:30
know, then he goes and then there's like a door.
29:33
They're like watching the concert and he there's
29:35
like a door to the floor that goes underneath
29:37
the arena. And he literally says to his daughter,
29:42
Hey, would you think it'd be cool to see the
29:47
underneath the arena, the backstage area. Why
29:50
don't we go down this door in the middle of a
29:53
concert? You know what I mean? It was just so
29:57
stupid that no normal person would do. And I
30:00
get that in the movie what he's trying to do,
30:03
right? He's scrambling, okay? Another part which
30:08
was very funny and I still joke and we do quote
30:13
this and I do reenact it a little bit. There's
30:16
another friend of them at the, a girl that's
30:20
a friend of his daughter's and the mom is with
30:22
that daughter, right? And they're somewhere else
30:24
sitting. And the little girl does something,
30:28
right? And the mom says, calls her daughter,
30:32
you little beast. And then immediately starts
30:35
gyrating to the music. So I don't know if it
30:42
was meant to be funny. But that whole that whole
30:46
scene was so funny and it makes that movie so
30:49
stupid Okay, the entire the entire movie premise
30:53
I don't again not to go into every single detail
30:55
But those are the moments right like could you
30:57
know those are the little moments the acting
30:59
okay? But it's that like are you serious that
31:03
this was a movie made That's my disappointment
31:05
and now and I think we'll both probably agree
31:08
on the surprise, but I'm gonna let you go Hold
31:11
on so I'm doing Am I do I have to do both cuz
31:14
I don't have a surprise. Well, no, I have a surprise
31:16
I have a surprise disappointment. So no, so I
31:19
I don't have a disappointment Okay, I had a surprise
31:21
for a movie that I did. Okay. I didn't have high
31:24
expectations for okay, and When I watch movies,
31:29
I I try to watch movies going in blind. I don't
31:32
want to see any trailers Yeah, I don't want to
31:34
read any reviews on it. I just I I hear a title
31:37
of a movie Maybe I see the cast. I get a glimpse
31:40
of something. And I'm like, you know what? I'm
31:42
going to give it a shot. I'll watch it. So a
31:45
movie that I watched was a movie that was actually,
31:48
I can't remember if it was shot or directed,
31:51
by one Zoe Kravitz, the daughter of music artist
31:55
Lenny Kravitz. And she did a movie called Blink
32:00
Twice. OK? And I had no expectations for this
32:04
movie. It is very dark. It is very mean. It's
32:08
an evil movie. And it wasn't pegged as like this
32:11
horror movie. But it surprised me how well it
32:16
was shot, how well it was written, how well the
32:20
acting was done. And it's got a pretty good cast
32:23
associated with it. It's got Channing Tatum is
32:27
in it. It's a fantastic cinematic display of
32:33
artistry. It was well done. But it surprised
32:37
me in how well it was done, because I had no
32:40
expectations for it. And then after the fact,
32:43
I kind of saw that it was kind of crapped on
32:44
a lot. A lot of people didn't like it. But it
32:47
was a really, really good movie. It surprised
32:49
the hell out of me. And maybe because my bar
32:52
was so low. But the people who were saying that
32:55
it was a bad movie, I don't know what movie they
32:56
watched. It was incredible. And it's very hard
33:00
to talk about it. without giving away any of
33:03
the spoilers. But what I will say is it's not
33:05
for children. And it is not for those that have
33:08
a weak stomach or are offended by things that
33:14
are of a sensitive nature. I'll just say it like
33:16
that. But it was incredibly well done. And even
33:19
though it was really edgy, they did the best
33:22
that they could covering that type of subject
33:25
matter. Really good stuff great watch, but no
33:28
you definitely want to put the kids to bed. You
33:30
don't want them watching that nobody twice I
33:33
did see the trailer saw them theater, but I have
33:35
not watched it yet. I think it's streaming now
33:38
Yeah, I thought caught it on streaming very very
33:41
very surprised man. It was it was a good It was
33:43
a good watch, okay? I thought we would agree
33:45
my surprise because you got me on this I don't
33:48
know that I would have went to watch it. I wasn't
33:50
sure I know My son wanted to watch it, so we
33:53
did go see centers Really? And it's a surprise
33:57
only, not so much a surprise, because when I
34:00
went to see it, I already knew it was a success.
34:02
Got it. But from the time it opened going back
34:05
to that box office, you look and say, are people
34:07
going to watch it? Yeah. Which doesn't make it
34:09
good or bad, right? But then when it exploded.
34:13
Like it just kept earning and kept earning and
34:16
kept climbing and if you just said that movie
34:18
is gonna earn damn near 300 million dollars you
34:21
would have never thought it and it is one of
34:23
the movies in recent history that You probably
34:27
would have been like a maybe around a hundred
34:30
million Okay, maybe 150 I can see that. And it
34:35
probably overdid itself by 100 million at least.
34:39
It did. And I will say, I saw Centers, and I
34:42
think I did. I texted you and said, you need
34:44
to go see it. It was another movie. Well done.
34:48
Took a lot of risks. Took a lot of chances. And
34:51
that was another movie I knew nothing about.
34:54
Didn't either I had no idea what they move I
34:57
knew who was in it I knew obviously the main
34:59
actor Michael B Jordan was in it some of the
35:02
the cast I knew but I didn't know what it was
35:04
about and you know me I don't like period pieces.
35:07
I don't like movies that are set in different
35:09
other in different times This one captivated
35:12
me early got me wrapped into it Sinners was it
35:15
was a good surprise. I kind of had a feeling
35:18
it was gonna be good But no, but that's a good
35:21
one. And you're right. It went gangbusters, man.
35:24
It took off. The way it took off was great. And
35:26
obviously, social media had their fun with it,
35:28
I'm sure. But that's what they do. But it ultimately
35:31
helped. Even if people didn't like it, they still
35:34
went and saw it to the tune, like you said, of
35:36
a quarter billion dollars. And whatever you thought
35:38
it was about, it might have been a little bit.
35:40
But then it was... Yeah, you had no idea. No,
35:42
you didn't. Damn good surprise. That's a good
35:43
one, man. I'm mad I didn't think about it. That's
35:46
a good one. Yeah, so there we go, guys. That's
35:56
our first fanatically speaking movie pod. We're
35:59
going to throw this one in for you. We're going
36:01
to try to do more of these. I've got some really
36:03
good ideas for some different movie podcasts
36:06
that we can continue to do. We're fans of movies
36:08
like most people are. So we'll do what we can
36:11
to try to pump these out. We'll have our fan
36:14
page up on the Facebook page. Go to our page.
36:17
make your recommendations for what you want us
36:20
to talk about on the show. So we'll take the
36:23
the best answers on the page, we'll put those
36:25
on a poll, and then we'll put it right back out
36:28
for everybody to vote on. The topics that win
36:31
we'll actually cover on the show. We'll make
36:33
sure to shout you out and you know tag you in
36:34
the post to let you know that you're post one.
36:36
And maybe we'll have a prize or something we
36:38
can throw something your way for being the winner.
36:40
But that's definitely something that we're working
36:42
on too. In the meantime, I am the Log Off Legend,
36:46
hater of social media, co -host and producer
36:49
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36:52
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36:54
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37:27
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37:29
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