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Okay, So Maybe They're Actually Stuck · Made of Stars

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  Speaker 3: my good friend doctor Sean Cruising from Columbus State Universities
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  Speaker 4: Hey Sean, good morning West. Good to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to the first thing, because we have been
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  Speaker 3: talking for weeks now, well the last two weeks we
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  Speaker 3: weren't so much talking about it, but prior to that,
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  Speaker 3: we had been talking about the Starliner craft and the
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  Speaker 3: fact that folks in the media had been saying that
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  Speaker 3: they were stuck. They were stuck on the International Space Station,
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  Speaker 3: and in our defense, saying that they were stuck a
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  Speaker 3: month ago was premature. Right back then, they weren't necessarily stuck.
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  Speaker 3: They were doing tests on the craft. They were trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure out what the issues were with the helium leaks,
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  Speaker 3: and they knew that when this thing returned back to
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  Speaker 3: Earth and ended up in the ocean, you can't.
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  Speaker 5: Test it anymore. It's gone.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. So this was an opportunity to do that. However,
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  Speaker 3: time has past and they're still up there, and it
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  Speaker 3: appears now we're starting to get to a place where
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  Speaker 3: the word stuck seems more appropriate.
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  Speaker 4: The last thing I would like to be considered by
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  Speaker 4: our listening audience is a SpaceX fanboy. So over the
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  Speaker 4: last oh six weeks, maybe that we've been doing podcasts,
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  Speaker 4: and again, as you mentioned, we had a couple of
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  Speaker 4: special features live from the Kennedy Space Center there with
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  Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, which is awesome. Go back
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  Speaker 4: and listen to those podcast friends, They're really great. But
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  Speaker 4: prior to that, I'd been saying, listen, I'm not I'm
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  Speaker 4: not trying to shoot down Boeing. And it's not that
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  Speaker 4: I'm a Boeing lover either. I'm not a SpaceX fanboy
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  Speaker 4: that hates Boeing. Boeing is doing the right thing. They
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  Speaker 4: are making sure that they are putting astronauts safety along
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  Speaker 4: with their partners at NASA as their top priority. They
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  Speaker 4: can't run all the physical tests on this vehicle because
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  Speaker 4: of the way it re enters and the areas they
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  Speaker 4: were having problems are with a component that does not
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  Speaker 4: re enter the atmosphere, So of course they have to
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  Speaker 4: be sure. And they've already described basically the mechanics the
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  Speaker 4: engineering of how they could bring the astronauts back safely,
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  Speaker 4: and why the astronauts weren't really stuck. And yes, I
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  Speaker 4: beat that drum over and over again, and I think
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  Speaker 4: maybe you and I off air said something to the
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  Speaker 4: effect of until NASA says they're stuck, they're not really stuck. Well,
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  Speaker 4: something happened yesterday, So what.
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  Speaker 5: Did NASA say Yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: NASA officials had a press conference and they didn't invite Boeing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if they invited Boeing or not. They
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  Speaker 4: didn't have any Boeing officials at the press conference, which,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, was pointed out vehemently by the Space press.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, why is no one here from Boeing that
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  Speaker 4: we can talk to and ask questions and so so
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  Speaker 4: it's it was a little bit of an awkward, difficult
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  Speaker 4: family conversation yesterday, shall we say, as the NASA officials
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  Speaker 4: were talking in a rather tense press conference about the
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  Speaker 4: fact that there's actually now a debate abouther about whether
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  Speaker 4: or not the Boeing star Liner is capable or is
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  Speaker 4: safe to bring these astronauts back. And yeah, that NASA
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  Speaker 4: is actually now considering seriously some alternatives to bringing Sunny
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  Speaker 4: Williams and Butch Wilmore back safely in that vehicle, or
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  Speaker 4: should they find a different route like a SpaceX Dragon.
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  Speaker 3: Well, by wincident, there's a SpaceX Dragon heading up next month.
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  Speaker 4: They just so happened to have an uber. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's in the neighborhood. It's on the app.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they can see it, tracking it on the app,
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  Speaker 3: watching it start to get ready.
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  Speaker 5: So and let's let's go through that. And it's worth.
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  Speaker 3: Noting you mentioned that Boeing not at the at the
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  Speaker 3: press event, and SpaceX wasn't either, right, Yeah, SpaceX was
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  Speaker 3: also not the president And that's that. I'm sure, like,
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  Speaker 3: if one's not going to be there, it's not because
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  Speaker 3: we've discussed and part of why maybe it comes across
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  Speaker 3: as if we've ever seen like we're fan boying one.
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  Speaker 3: You could say we're just as much fan boying about
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  Speaker 3: the James Webspace telescope, because when you have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of wins, it we're just we're just celebrating the wins
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  Speaker 3: I feel like for us. And this is the way
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  Speaker 3: I'll try to use this. If you've ever watched the
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  Speaker 3: Manning Brothers, the Peyton and Eli cast of Monday Night Football,
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  Speaker 3: they're not exactly on there pulling for defense. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're there are people on there that are cheering for offense.
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  Speaker 5: That's what they do.
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  Speaker 3: They're not getting caught up in which team is what
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  Speaker 3: they're pulling for off Luke and I were doing this
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  Speaker 3: the other day watching the women's soccer. When we were
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  Speaker 3: watching the US versus Australia, US was already in Australia
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  Speaker 3: needed a tie to guarantee that they were get in.
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  Speaker 3: So all we were doing is just pulling for offense.
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  Speaker 3: That's all we were doing. We wanted to see some
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  Speaker 3: goals scored and we were excited about it. And that's
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  Speaker 3: why that's fresh on my brain because you know, we
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  Speaker 3: haven't had a Monday Night football game with Peyton and
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  Speaker 3: Eline a while. But the point is we're celebrating offense
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  Speaker 3: and when James Webb has a win, we say great.
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  Speaker 3: When SpaceX has a win, we say great. We were
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  Speaker 3: celebrating this for Boeing that they finally got there, and
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  Speaker 3: that was you know, it was about time just to
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  Speaker 3: be fair about it, and I'll say that. But now
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  Speaker 3: we're at a point where uh, oh, this is this
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  Speaker 3: is not this is not good. And back to the
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  Speaker 3: reminder that we've had many times, Boeing got a lot
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  Speaker 3: more money for all of this than SpaceX did.
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  Speaker 5: So it's probably fair.
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  Speaker 3: That neither was there at the press conference. If Boeing's
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  Speaker 3: not going to be there, it's probably a good idea
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  Speaker 3: that SpaceX wasn't there either, because you know, who knows.
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  Speaker 5: What they might say.
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  Speaker 4: It's very true. And you know, one of the contingencies
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  Speaker 4: that has been rolled out is that a launch that
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  Speaker 4: was supposed to occur this month, the SpaceX Crew nine mission,
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  Speaker 4: which typically has a crew of four, will be going up.
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  Speaker 4: They could cut that back to two seats. What if
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  Speaker 4: they just left a couple of them home, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just leave two of those people off and it'll be
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  Speaker 4: a couple of empty seats, and Sunny and Butch could
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  Speaker 4: ride back on the empty seats of Crew nine. That's
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  Speaker 4: still one of the possibilities. Another possibility is this, let's
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  Speaker 4: not forget that Crew Dragon. The spaceship itself was made
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  Speaker 4: to have a maximum capacity of seven astronauts, so they
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  Speaker 4: could install they're kind of a reclining seat. I like
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  Speaker 4: to think of them as a yoga mat, So they
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  Speaker 4: could install a couple of yoga mats somewhere in the
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  Speaker 4: Dragon capsule and Sony and Butch get just right back
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  Speaker 4: on these yoga mats, and again I'm joking, but they
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  Speaker 4: really are reclining seats that could be added, right, so,
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  Speaker 4: so they could increase the capacity of the SpaceX Crew
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  Speaker 4: Dragon vehicle to bring them back with a fully loaded
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  Speaker 4: Crew nine. Both of those contingencies would have them coming
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  Speaker 4: back in February of twenty twenty five, which means that
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  Speaker 4: Butcher and Sonior are going to spend a lot more
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  Speaker 4: time aboard the International Space Station than what they had
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  Speaker 4: first intended. And the fact that they're even seriously discussing
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  Speaker 4: these as contingencies without inviting the Boeing people to the
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  Speaker 4: presser means something. It means that, yeah, I've been I've
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  Speaker 4: been giving the space media just a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: flak for like smelling blood in the water, really jumping
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  Speaker 4: on the line of these astronauts are stuck, which makes
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  Speaker 4: great clickbait and gets everybody to follow your story. Turns
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  Speaker 4: out you might be right. I'd have been right all
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  Speaker 4: along space media. So it sounds like it sounds like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, these problems are just they're compounding. They appear
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  Speaker 4: to be a bit more serious, and now NASA is
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  Speaker 4: looking at possible alternatives. Not only are they looking at
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  Speaker 4: those alternatives, they're actually announcing in a press conference that
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  Speaker 4: they're looking at these alternatives, which to me is you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's like the difference between a forty percent chance of
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  Speaker 4: rain and a ninety percent chance of clouds. Right, So,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm trying to figure out whether or not I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna be able to see the sky, I see a
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  Speaker 4: forty percent chance of rain, and I compound that to
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  Speaker 4: a ninety percent chance of clouds. I see a I
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  Speaker 4: see a NASA press conference when they're saying that they're
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  Speaker 4: considering Crew Dragon. I think in the back rooms that
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  Speaker 4: that characterization is probably pretty high. Well, they're probably really
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  Speaker 4: very seriously considering bringing them back on SpaceX.
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  Speaker 3: Now, well, it certainly sounds like with pushing this was
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be an August eighteenth, which is ten days
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  Speaker 3: from now launch of Crew nine back to the twenty
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  Speaker 3: fourth of September. Seems like they're in a place where
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  Speaker 3: they can plan however they're going to do this, But
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  Speaker 3: that seems like things are in the works at the
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  Speaker 3: very least for that.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and with no other reason for that pushback, by
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  Speaker 4: the way than scheduling. Yeah, right, so it's it's specifically
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  Speaker 4: because of the star Liner mission.
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  Speaker 3: So well wait wait, wait, wait wait, but is there
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  Speaker 3: a possible other reason to push it back? Keep in mind,
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  Speaker 3: remember we were looking at a possibility we had an
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  Speaker 3: issue with a SpaceX launch that involved was just satellites,
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  Speaker 3: no people. So is there any scenario And I know
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  Speaker 3: this is just me lobbing out of hypothetical, but is
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  Speaker 3: it possible that that would be the reason for pushing
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  Speaker 3: it back a month?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, lots of things are possible.
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  Speaker 5: I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist now, because
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  Speaker 5: that's what they do.
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  Speaker 4: This is a podcast. We're not show that's true. This
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  Speaker 4: is a podcast we can talk about conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, I mean, I guess that would
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  Speaker 3: be a possibility, but it doesn't seem likely. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this seems like where this is all headed. They are
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  Speaker 3: planning a launch on the twenty fourth of September, and
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  Speaker 3: that would the return date for that mission would be
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  Speaker 3: in February, so they would be stuck effectively until until February.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, if that's what the plan is, that's
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  Speaker 3: what the plan is, and I you know, you start wondering.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's a certain point.
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  Speaker 3: Where you say, oh, you got stuck on the International
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  Speaker 3: Space Station. You got stuck in space doing this thing
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  Speaker 3: that you've trained your whole life to do. Would be
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  Speaker 3: like saying, oh, you mean you got stuck getting to
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  Speaker 3: compete in the Olympics longer or whatever. You know, something
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  Speaker 3: that you've worked for your whole life and then you
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  Speaker 3: get to do it longer. However, they've already gotten bumped
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  Speaker 3: back quite a bit, getting bumped back, you know, into
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  Speaker 3: February through Christmas. I mean, maybe they're looking forward to
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  Speaker 3: spending Christmas on the International Space Station.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. You know that there are always two
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  Speaker 4: sides of this coin. We heard this from Frank Rubio
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  Speaker 4: when he was quote unquote stuck aboard the International Space
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  Speaker 4: Station he was really stuck actually, so so then yes,
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  Speaker 4: he's having a good time. Yes, he's getting to do
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  Speaker 4: more of what he'd trained for and more of the
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  Speaker 4: dream that he had, you know, as a younger person
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  Speaker 4: to go to space. But he's also missing his family, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean you have plans, right, so you make plans
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  Speaker 4: with family and you miss family events, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: Sunita Williams and Butch Wilmore have family and and so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's you know, there's there's real life repercussions to these
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  Speaker 4: kinds of things. And where's that. I'm sure, on one hand,
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  Speaker 4: they accept that risk when they go up. They know
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  Speaker 4: that these kinds of things can happen, they can get
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  Speaker 4: delayed on their return, particularly on a test mission of
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  Speaker 4: a new vehicle. At the same time, I think they
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  Speaker 4: were probably very confidently expecting to come back home.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah by now.
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  Speaker 4: Or by September or soon, right, And now we don't
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  Speaker 4: know that's going to happen. Now, I should say it's
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  Speaker 4: important to say one last thing, which is we also
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  Speaker 4: don't know that's not going to happen. NASA has not
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  Speaker 4: made a decision. They've simply rolled out another idea. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just trying to offer my wisdom of having watched NASA
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  Speaker 4: for a long time and the way they operate. If
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  Speaker 4: they're rolling this idea out to the media, I'm just
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  Speaker 4: feeling like they probably have considered this very, very seriously
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  Speaker 4: in the back room. So they're conditioning everybody to say,
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  Speaker 4: could be a SpaceX return on this Boeing star Liner flight.
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  Speaker 3: At risk of sounding like SpaceX fanboys, let's now talk
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  Speaker 3: about something very cool that SpaceX will be a part of.
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  Speaker 3: And that is I mean, and sadly, it always comes
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  Speaker 3: back to where people are going to criticize and say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's just a billionaire spind in their money, but this
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  Speaker 3: is going to be a historic flight for the Polaris
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  Speaker 3: Dawn mission.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so there is a billionaire. He's already paid his
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  Speaker 4: way to space once. His name's Jared Isigman, and Jared Isigman,
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  Speaker 4: in collaboration with SpaceX, has developed a whole new space program.
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  Speaker 4: It's called the Polaris Program. There are going to be
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  Speaker 4: three flights in total. Jared's flipping the bill on all
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  Speaker 4: of these flights. So let's just be clear, it's not
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  Speaker 4: just one flight, it's three flights. And by the way,
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  Speaker 4: this is after Jared Isaacman flipped the bill for the
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  Speaker 4: Inspiration four flight, which took place back in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 4: being the first ever all commercial crew to go to space.
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  Speaker 4: So this billionaire has just spent an all manner of
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  Speaker 4: money on going back and forth to space. He's going
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  Speaker 4: to be, by the way, he's going to be the
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  Speaker 4: commander of this mission, which is called the Polaris Dawn mission.
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  Speaker 4: He's also going to be the commander of the other
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  Speaker 4: two missions. And he was, of course the commander of
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  Speaker 4: the Inspiration for flight. I guess if you're paying the bill,
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  Speaker 4: you get to be commander. Seems that's the way the
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  Speaker 4: rules were.
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  Speaker 5: It seems fair. It seems fair. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 5: when you own the boat, you wear the captain's hat.
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  Speaker 5: Right there, you go, Jared owns the boat. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: mean for all ways, he at least rented the boat.
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  Speaker 4: Is that fair? Yeah. So some social media communication on
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  Speaker 4: this platform called x apparently came out and said that
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  Speaker 4: the target date is now August twenty sixth. So they
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  Speaker 4: were talking about mid August, and there's some other time
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  Speaker 4: frames thrown around, but they were nonspecific. And now, according
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  Speaker 4: to Jared Isacman on X. August twenty six looks like
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  Speaker 4: the date that they are targeting for the Pals Dawn mission,
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  Speaker 4: which will be the first ever crew to have a
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  Speaker 4: commercial spacewalk. There are actually two of them that are
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  Speaker 4: going to go outside of the vehicle. Now, who's on board, Well,
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  Speaker 4: Jared Isiagman is because he's the commander of the mission.
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  Speaker 4: The pilot, though the person actually flying the spacecraft is
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  Speaker 4: Scott kid Potit. He's a retired US Air Force lieutenant
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  Speaker 4: colonel and he now works for SpaceX. And then also
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  Speaker 4: there's mission specialists Sarah Gillis and Anna Menon, both of
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  Speaker 4: whom are SpaceX engineers, and so this is a a
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  Speaker 4: SpaceX mission, but with commercially funded astronauts and so they
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  Speaker 4: are not NASA astronauts, so that makes them commercial. So
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  Speaker 4: it's a commercial crew. And Sarah Gillis and Jared Isaacman
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  Speaker 4: when they get to their farthest point away from the Earth,
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  Speaker 4: which is about four hundred and thirty five miles by
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  Speaker 4: the way, they're going to open up the nose of
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  Speaker 4: the Dragon capsule and take a spacewalk. And they had
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  Speaker 4: to have new space suits that were specially designed to
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  Speaker 4: be able to do this, there are what they call
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  Speaker 4: EVA suits, which are extra vehicular activity suits that means
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna go outside your spaceship, and there are IVA suits,
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  Speaker 4: which are inter vehicular activity in other words, you're just
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  Speaker 4: hanging out inside the spaceship. Will SpaceX designed these suits
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  Speaker 4: to be both. They're both an IVA suit and an
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  Speaker 4: EVA suit. That means they're not specialized to either of
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  Speaker 4: those environments. They can be used both inside the spaceship
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  Speaker 4: and outside the spaceship. So all four of these commercial
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  Speaker 4: astronauts will suit up in these hybrid IVA EVA suits
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  Speaker 4: and then two of them will actually leave the spacecraft.
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  Speaker 4: Why are they doing that, Well, because the SpaceX Crew
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  Speaker 4: Dragon has no airlock, which means once they open up
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  Speaker 4: the nose of the Crew Dragon, the whole interior of
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  Speaker 4: the vehicle is going to be exposed to the vacuum
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  Speaker 4: of space. So everybody has to be in a spacesuit
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  Speaker 4: for the entire mission, and so that again makes it
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  Speaker 4: another interesting mission. Also that four hundred and thirty five
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  Speaker 4: miles I was just talking about, that's the farthest that
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  Speaker 4: any spacecraft has taken astronauts away from the Earth since
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  Speaker 4: the Apollo era, since we actually left Earth orbit and
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  Speaker 4: went to the Moon. So for all of these reasons,
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  Speaker 4: the Polarist Dawn mission is a very historic mission, and
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  Speaker 4: it's very interesting that it's all commercial and the looks
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  Speaker 4: like they'll be looking to launch from Kennedy Space Center
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  Speaker 4: on a Falcon nine rocket around or about August the
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  Speaker 4: twenty sixth.
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  Speaker 3: So just for a perspective, you said four and thirty
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  Speaker 3: five miles the International Space Station is, how high? And
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  Speaker 3: then how much further is the Moon?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the space station is up around the two
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty mile mark. Hubble Space Telescope out there
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  Speaker 4: around three point fifty or thereabouts. The Moon is two
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  Speaker 4: hundred and thirty nine thousand miles, so just a little farther. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you just you go down to the you know,
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  Speaker 4: the Spectrum store and take a left and just keep
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  Speaker 4: going till you get to the Moon, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: roughly a thousand times farther.
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  Speaker 3: But I should have mentioned Hubble because will they have
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: a moment where they pass in front of it and
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: they can like pose or like how does that work exactly?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: For you know, we'll we'll follow the X platform and
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: just see what kind of selfies they're posting out there. Yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: when they fly by these you know, kind of high
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: orbit spacecraft like Hubble. So this tells you, though, this
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: is farther out than the orbit of Hubble, right, that's
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: you can tell by the numbers. But that but that's
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: also because we've had crews go out to Hubble and
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: service that telescope since the Apollo era, right, So so
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: that means that the altitude of this vehicle is more
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: than all of those Hubble space telescope servicing missions as well.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: So this is a it's really far. Yeah, it's far
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: from the Earth, and we wish them all the best.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: It seems that China has created some complication in orbit.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: China's you know, they I don't know that they're using
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: the Starlink network. I don't know if they're They've got
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: some deal with Elon, but they want to they want
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: their own version of Starlink where they can have their
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: own telecommunications satellite. Mega constellation. A mega constellation means a
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: really big constellation. What does a constellation mean? That's a
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: group of satellites that are all orbiting the Earth working
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: together to carry out the same function. It gets to
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: be mega when there's fourteen thousand of them. Then we
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: started applying that word mega, just not to literally mean
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: million like it does you know in math class, but
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: this time to actually just say it's really big, a
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: really big constellation or grouping of communications satellites. So it's
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: called the Kyan Fon satellite cluster or the G sixty
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: satellite cluster is a kind of the the tail number
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: on it, I guess, but it translates to thousand sales.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: So this is the thousand sale constellation of telecommunication satellites,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: more like fourteen thousand apparently fourteen thousand sales. Anyway, So
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: the mission is from a company called Shanghai Spacecom Satellite
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Technology or SSST, and of course in China, companies are
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: also owned by the government, so anyway, it's a government
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: owned satellite company from Shanghai. So they are working on
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: this cluster of satellites or mega constellation of satellites to
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: provide telecommunication services to the folks over on the other
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: side of the world. There's an observation that was made
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: by a company called Slingshot Aerospace that when the Chinese
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Long March sixth a rocket that launched the first of
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: these eighteen telecommunication satellites up there. Well, it kind of
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: flew apart. So when I got up there, it kind
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: of flew apart, and they didn't have a good plan
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: for getting the debris from that falling apart Chinese Long
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: March six A rocket to fall back through the atmosphere
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: and burn up. Oh no, Instead, what it did is
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: it's entering semi occupied orbits in low Earth orbit around
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: the Earth, which is then a hazard for other spacecraft.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: You see, the Chinese and their Long March six A
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: rocket have had shall we say, space debris deployment issues
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: in the past. This is not the first time that
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: that rocket has kind of polluted or put debris into
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the low Earth orbit environment that they didn't really have
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: a good plan for removing. It's also not the first
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: time that a long March rocket has had other kinds
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: of space debris. We remember some of those Chinese rockets
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: actually falling on villages in Indonesia, right, So the Chinese
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: just aren't quite as careful about the debris their rockets
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: produce and what kind of hazard that might be for
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: other human beings. So therefore, this is just one more
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: case where this mega constellation appears to have created a
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: debris field. Check out this story, by the way, on
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: lots of different outlets, but this particular one came from
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: SpaceNews dot com. Read more about it on SpaceNews dot com.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Check out what can happen on a space station with
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: a debris field by watching the movie Gravity, Poor Sandy
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Bullet Anyway, Percy and meteor shower peaking this weekend.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Great time haking fairness with.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: The movie Gravity. She did make it back because of
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: a Chinese space station.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying if she made it back at all,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: that's part of the speculation. Did she really make it
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: back at all? Or did she die when she saw
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: George Clooney, I don't know, And I'm sorry we're spoiling
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the whole movie, but you just jump on in and
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: figure it out for yourself.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: George Clutey in that movie, I can't remember for a minute.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Of course he was, Yes, of course he was. I'm
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: trying to get rid of the spoiler alerts anyway, So
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: this is thereof for.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Anyway, So percion.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Firstly, it's there's a meteor shower coming. It comes every
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: year at this time. It's known as the tears of
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Saint Lawrence because this is around the celebration of Saint
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Lawrence as a martyr, and so these meteors falling from
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: the sky apparently look like tears falling from heaven for
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: the martyred Saint Lawrence around the day of his recognition.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: So that happens every year around August twelfth. That puts
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: it this weekend, friends, and that's why we're telling you
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: about it on the podcast. Here. You can go out
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: and see this great meter shower, probably typically the best
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: meteor shower of the year in the overnight hours from
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: August eleventh until August twelfth, That means Sunday night into
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Monday morning. I would encourage you to get up pre dawn,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Just get up a little early on Monday morning before
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: the sun rises, and go out and check it out,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: because meteor showers are always best viewed after midnight. And
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: that's because of the orientation that the Earth turns as
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: it's rotating and revolving around the sun. It moves, it
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: turns into the direction that it's moving, and so you
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: can just see more meteors because we're running into more
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: in the direction that's facing you. Just trust me better,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: after midnight. Okay, so that's also that's.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Also Eric Clapton's favorite time to stare at the sky.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: But anyway, I heard that I heard that song once, yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: or ten thousand times anyway, so the uh the other
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: part about that is that there's also shall we say
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: a friendly moon, uh in this part of the moon
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: is in its early part of its phases between now
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: and this weekend, and so you can actually go out
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: pretty much any night and start looking for these person
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: it's because they're already falling. It's just the peak that
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: occurs Sunday night into Monday morning. However, you could they
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: they start in mid July and they last through most
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: of the month of August if you really could see
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: meteors any night. And right now, the moon's not providing
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: a lot of light contamination because it's just gone through
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: its new phase and it's now just a little waxing crescent.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: By the weekend, it's going to be almost fifty percent illuminated,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: which means a first quarter moon, and so you'll see
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: that first quarter moon in the sky, but it sets early,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: leaving that after midnight part of the sky non polluted
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: by the moon at all. So it's a kind of
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: a favorable moon. It looks like good observing conditions in
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: terms of weather. This might be a great year to
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: go out and take the family out. Try to see
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: the percied meter shower.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four Coming up after a quick break. Perseverance
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: finds hints of life on Mars. Question mark. If you
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: put the question mark there, I get to keep my credibility.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: We'll talk about that after this.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: See if you say Perseverance finds hints of ancient Martian
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: life question mark right. It's just it's like or did
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: they did they do that? I mean, I could put
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the word did at the beginning, but it's more fun
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: as a headline. It's got that clickbait feel to it,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't it. And if you clickbaited enough, I've learned if
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you clickbaited enough, if you go astronauts stuck on the
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: space station, they're stuck on the space and then eventually
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: they're stuck on the space station.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: It's like it's like willing it into existence through clicking.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: They break up celebrity couples that way all the time.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Have you noticed that it's always like.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Trouble with Ben and j Lo trouble.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: They look happy, everybody looks fine, and then all of
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: a sudden, it's like they haven't seen each other for
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: a month. They hate each other's guts. Why is she
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: make an alcohol when he's an alcoholic. Well, that's just
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: terrible they do that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's just like that. Well, then
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: let's just say it. Perseverance is found into the ancient
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Martian life. Yeah, question marks, Yes.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: It happened.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Question podcast version of Clickbait. There it is.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: I know what the title of this episode is gonna be.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: So, so look, friends, let's talk like scientists for a moment.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: There's some discoveries that have been made that within the
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: brackets of the possibilities could include evidence for alien life.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: So so there it is. Right. So, so scientists like
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: to say, yeah, we need to do some further testing,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: but one of the possibilities, or one of the possible
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: explanations is ancient alien life. Okay, so what happened. Well,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: there's this rover on Mars, and Mars is a red planet,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: and there's a rover up there. It's called Perseverance, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Perseverance looks at rocks. One of those rocks is named
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: chayaya Va Falls, Chayava cheya Iva Falls.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: You can say that.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Chey Iva Falls after a waterfall in the Grand Canyon
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: of Earth. So they nicknamed this rock chey Iva Falls
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: or chey Iva Falls anyway. So whatever this rock is,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: there's a rock up there, and the scientists had a
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: clever nickname for it, and it contains something on the
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: surface that they're calling leopard spots as another nickname, some
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: kind of spotty material on the surface that made it
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: a very interesting looking rock. Let's not forget that the
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Perseverance rover is in a place where they are pretty
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: darn sure, uh there was an ancient Martian lake in
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: the past, and so they are looking in an area
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: where they're convinced water was found on this particular portion
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: of Mars in the past. And so when they find
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: a rock on it that has these spots, and they
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: begin to analyze those spots and they and they start
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: seeing evidence of organic materials. Now, wait a minute before
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: you get too far, I'm not talking about peace of plants.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about materials that have the chemistry of carbon
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: in them. Right, So I'm not saying they've found pieces
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: of living materials, but living materials here on Earth are
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: made up of carbon compounds. So what they found is
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: carbon compounds. So now you have organic materials in spots
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: on a rock that look like where we find microbial
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: life on Earth in these kind of spots on rocks
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: that used to be in aqueous environments or in other words,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: in areas where water has been found. So you begin
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: to add all of that up, and you're starting to say, hey,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: wait a minute, this is a very interesting scenario we
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: have going here, Ken Farley, Perseverance Rover Project scientists from
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Caltech in Pasadenas in Pasadena said in a press release,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: shay Iva Falls is the most puzzling, complex and potentially
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: important rock yet investigated by Perseverance. On the one hand,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: this is still Ken Farley, by the way quote. On
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: the one hand, we have our first compelling detection of
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: organic material, distinctive colorful spots indicative of chemical reactions that
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: microbial life could use as an energy source, and clear
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: evidence that water necessary for life once passed through the rock.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: This is again Ken Farley of Caltech. Ken goes on
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: to say, on the other hand, see this is what
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: scientists do. They talk with two hands. Yes, So all
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: you clickbait headline writers out there. Ken's using his other hand. Now,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: on the other hand, says Ken, we have been unable
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: to determine exactly how the rock formed and to what
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: extent nearby rocks may have heated chey Iva falls the
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: nickname of the rock, and contributed to these features. So
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: let's be careful, is another way of saying what Ken
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Farley is saying in this statement. We've got to be
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: a little bit careful. But it sure is interesting because
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: it's compelling detection of organic materials combined with colorful spots
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: that if we saw these same spots on Earth, we
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: would conclude that life probably made those spots, and we
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: know that it was an environment that water once existed. Wow,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: that's a triple header right there, right yep. So this
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: would be a good time that if we actually had
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: a human geologist and they could take their rock camer
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: and split this rock open and look for evidences on
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: the inside of the rock, they could tell a little
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: bit more about the rocks past. They could also potentially
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: just pick up a hand lens and examine those spots
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: in a little bit more detail and do some testing
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: that way. Anyway, at some point, human beings are going
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: to have to go to Mars before we really really
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: know these things. This is just my opinion. Okay. By
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: the way, another member of the science team for Mars
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Persevere is actually an astrobiologist from Queensland University of Technology
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: in Australia. We like Australia on this show, especially Queensland,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: especially Queensland, So there you go. So his name is
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: David Flannery and he's a member of the Perseverance science team.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: He says this, This is a quote from David Flannery. Quote.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: These spots are a big surprise on Earth. These types
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: of features in rocks are often associated with the fossilized
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: record of microbes living in the subsurface unquote, so says
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: David Flannery from Queensland, which I understand is the best
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: part of Australia.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: So there you go, hands down, yep.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: So, friends, this is a developing story. It's a very
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: interesting story. I've given you quotes that were featured in
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: an article on astronomy dot com. But this particular story
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: about Perseverance's find is out there in the space media
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: in multiple locations, so you can check out this article.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: But there is a very interesting rock nickname schay Iva
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: falls on Mars. That could be our actual first detection
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: of fossilized microbes on the surface of Mars. All indications
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: are positive at this time, but on the other hand,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: we need more data. So there you have it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Friends, twenty thirty two Olympics will be in Queensland, just
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: you know, in Brisbane primarily, so just fy i, all right,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: they wouldn't have picked it if it wasn't a great place.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: That's after the one in the US. You know what's
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: interesting about that? Ninety six was Atlanta and then four
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: years later was in Australia and Sydney, and then now
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: we're doing that, We're doing La and then Brisbane. That's interesting,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: isn't it. Sorry, I'm just thinking all that through in
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: my head right now. All right, So, Coca Cola Space
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Science Center, you guys, I know, have an astronomy night
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: coming up, and this is a good You just talked
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: about some of the weekend opportunities that are there for
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: this weekend, but let's talk about some of the stuff
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: you guys have going on there at the Co Cola
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Space Science Center.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're beginning our astronomy nights series again here at
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Space Science Center, and that's an opportunity for you to
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: come out and check out the night time sky with
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: your family for yourself. You know, the cool thing is,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: if you really want to inspire your kids to have
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: a love of and passion for science or technology or engineering,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: get them involved at a young age in some kind
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: of fun science. And we have what I would consider
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: two gateway sciences available to us. One of those is dinosaurs.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: There's some great museums around where you can go see
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: some dinosaur fossils, including here in Georgia, but also space.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: That's the other gateway science, and that's exactly why we
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: offer all of the activities and events that we offer
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: here at Space Science Center, including our astronomy Nights. We've
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: been kind of having a sabbatical this summer, we haven't
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: had any of those astronomy nights, but we're starting up
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: again here in August and we will run throughout the
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: school year. So what I would encourage you to do
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: now is just visit our website for more information on
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: these Telescope nights, one of which is going to be
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: this month, and also all of the Telescope knights throughout
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: the year. You can find that information on the Space
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Science Center's website. We are the Coca Cola Space Science
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Center at Columbus State University, so we have lots of
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: c's and s's in our web address. It is cc
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: SSC dot org. Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org. Visit
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: our website find out about all of the upcoming events
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: at Space Science Center, including our Music under the Dome
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: concert series beginning again this fall. Also our Astronomy Night
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: series also just coming down and visiting us see the
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: show schedule in our Atmosphere Theater. By the way, the
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Amosphere Theater newly upgraded as of this year. We have
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: a brand new planetarium system there and so friends, come
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: visit us at the Space Science Center once again. Begin
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: your journey at our website, visit www dot cc s
• 36:51
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• 36:55
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• 36:58
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• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Next to Stronomy Night on the seventeenth and then the
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: twenty fifth, the Columbus Toy Comic Book Show coming up,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: and we'll be talking more about that in the coming weeks.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Also wanted to mention this just as I do. You
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: guys are sponsoring our dragon Con coverage over on the
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: dragon Con Pregame Show podcast, and it will be also
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: aired on two hundred and something radio stations around the
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: state of Georgia with coverage into all of the states nearby,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: into Alabama and the Carolinas and Tennessee and down into Florida.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: So that's I named all of them. Out into the ocean.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: You know, it'll be all that all those people. If
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you're on a boat out in the ocean, you can
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: hear it on those stations, and we're really excited about it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I can't announce all the guests just yet. I've got one,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I've got two that are definites, and then I've got
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: a couple that I'm waiting for the final word on.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: And I like to have done the interview before I
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: announce them, because do record them ahead of time, and
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I hate saying I'm going to have someone on and
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: then they don't work out. So but I appreciate the
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