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Speaker 1: This is the good report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight a pact show why a new poll shows up
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Speaker 2: a disaster for the coalition as one nation runs right,
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Speaker 2: the Nationals push for a law saying what wouldn't have
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Speaker 2: needed saying before we went mad, that actually women are
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Speaker 2: women and men are not. Also tonight, Donald Trump packs
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Speaker 2: off from a peace plan.
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Speaker 1: With Iran and how the media got conned.
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Speaker 2: Gaza protesters are arrested in Israel, go from walking onto
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Speaker 2: a plane out of the country to using stretchers at
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Speaker 2: the other end to claim Israel tortured them. But first,
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Speaker 2: and despite a lot of what you heard in the
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Speaker 2: past hour, something sinister is going on with a war
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Speaker 2: crimes trial of our most decorated soldier, ben Robert Smith,
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Speaker 2: one of the Victoria Cross for heroism in Afghanistan. But
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Speaker 2: it's not what you may think. It's not what many
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Speaker 2: will want to think or me to say. What sinister
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Speaker 2: amus that I fear will make a fair trial impossible.
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Speaker 2: They'll also tend to intimidate fellow soldiers giving evidence against
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Speaker 2: Robert Smith. I'm talking about the full on spear campaign
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Speaker 2: against Liberal front bencher Andrew Hasty, who as an SAS
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Speaker 2: captain served in Afghanistan with Robert Smith and gave evidence
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Speaker 2: against them when Robert Smith sued journals for defaming him
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Speaker 2: as a war criminal and lost. Now for that, Hasty
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Speaker 2: has being savaged on social media and email campaigns as
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Speaker 2: a rat, a traitor, a coward. Robert Smith's mother last
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Speaker 2: email Liberal MPs warning them not to trust them. Now
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Speaker 2: the mother I forgive. I mean, I'd also do anything
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Speaker 2: to protect my children. But this weekend came the last
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Speaker 2: straw for me. A long article by journalist Aaron Patrick
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Speaker 2: in the West Australian Painting Andrew Hasty by hints and
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Speaker 2: Snyder size as a whimp, a shirker, a god botherer,
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Speaker 2: a hater, a kook, and an opportunist who betrayed Robert
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Speaker 2: Smith for revenge or to advance his own career.
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Speaker 1: It is shameless.
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Speaker 2: It is also totally skewed, deceitful through a mission, and
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Speaker 2: it makes Hasty seem a lot of things is absolutely not.
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Speaker 2: But you know the way these things is also extremely damaging.
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Speaker 2: In fact, this smear campaign seems very likely now to
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Speaker 2: cost Andrew Hasty his seat of the next election. To
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Speaker 2: the background, I should point out two things. First, one,
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Speaker 2: it has to be pointed out that The West Australian
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Speaker 2: has long been under the control or influence a billionaire
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Speaker 2: Care Stokes, who is also a key backer and funder
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Speaker 2: of Ben Robert Smith, and that paper has long been
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Speaker 2: hostile to Hasty. The second thing to point out from
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Speaker 2: the start, Ben Robert Smith insists is innocent of the
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Speaker 2: five war crimes which is now being charged. And now
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Speaker 2: that he is charged, I will not speculate on his
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Speaker 2: guilt or innocence, as so many of his defenders now
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Speaker 2: do with Hasty as their scapegoat. This article in the
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Speaker 2: West Australian said the funding things about Hasty that it
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Speaker 2: seemed intimidated by Robert Smith from the time that Hasty
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Speaker 2: as an officer was going through a brutally tough course
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Speaker 2: to join the SAS, where Robert Smith was one of
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Speaker 2: the many instructors. The article hinted that Hasty resented Robert
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Speaker 2: Smith for allegedly not recommending him for joining the regiment,
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Speaker 2: when Robert Smith was in fact not in a position
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Speaker 2: to make that call. The article suggested that Hasty's concerns
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Speaker 2: that elements of the SAS had become a killing machine
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Speaker 2: that killed indiscretion eminently well. The article suggested it was
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Speaker 2: because he was a committed Christian, an unusually committed one actually,
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Speaker 2: according to the unnamed soldiers he quoted, that had even
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Speaker 2: talked of cosmic justice her hope. He got in another
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Speaker 2: dig by saying that Hasty had got jumpy after surviving
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Speaker 2: one Taliban attack, had misseditting a target during SAS training,
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Speaker 2: had never fired a shot in anger even when he
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Speaker 2: did become an SAS officer, and had ducked when a
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Speaker 2: machine gun over his head was.
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Speaker 1: Fired, and on and on. You get the picture.
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Speaker 2: This was a hit job quoting entirely unnamed sources other
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Speaker 2: than a Robert Smith barrister. Now here's what this hit
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Speaker 2: job did not mention. Hasty was, in fact not a
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Speaker 2: key witness against Robert Smith when that war hero suit
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Speaker 2: for defamation in civil court. That was for a judge
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Speaker 2: to rule on the balance of probabilities that he had
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Speaker 2: committed war crimes on three occasions. Now Hasty was actually
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Speaker 2: praise by that judge as an honest witness. Nor was
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Speaker 2: Hasty some bad or cowardly officer. Because also not mentioned
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Speaker 2: is something that Hasty refuses to confirm or to allow
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Speaker 2: me to use, as ask me not to documents that
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Speaker 2: I've seen the Army Officer performance appraisal reports from twenty ten,
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Speaker 2: the year Hasty did that essays selection and pasted, and
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Speaker 2: they range up to twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and they
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Speaker 2: comprehensively disprove any claims or hints or suggestions or winks
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Speaker 2: that he was somehow a poor officer. In fact, he
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Speaker 2: was rated outstanding by the SAS squadron and commanding officers
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Speaker 2: assessing him outstanding. Nor did this article in the West
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Speaker 2: Australian in the Weekend. On the weekend note what three
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Speaker 2: Federal Court appeal judges did this year when they dismissed
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Speaker 2: Robert Smith's appeal in the defamation case he'd lost.
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Speaker 1: See Robert Smith had made key.
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Speaker 2: Claims in that initial court case that he then had
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Speaker 2: to drop an appeal because this story was plainly untenable,
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Speaker 2: as the appeal court judges pointed out. For instance, he
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Speaker 2: had claimed to have killed one of the two armed
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Speaker 2: Afghan men he saw fleeing outside a compound that his
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Speaker 2: unit was searching, with a soldier next to him, killing
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Speaker 2: the other.
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Speaker 1: Fleeing armed people fleeing squirt as they're called.
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Speaker 2: But on appeal, Robert Smith had to concede that the
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Speaker 2: men were found inside the compound. I can't give more details,
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Speaker 2: but what I can say is the soldier who killed
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Speaker 2: one of them refused to give evidence that might incriminate himself.
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Speaker 2: Soldiers gave evidence that Robert Smith ordered that soldier to
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Speaker 2: shoot one of the men, and one soldier also gave
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Speaker 2: evidence claiming he later saw Robert Smith machine gun the
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Speaker 2: other man, who had a wooden leg or a false leg,
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Speaker 2: shot him in the back. Now, to repeat, Robert Smith
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Speaker 2: denies these claims. Some other witnesses defended him, backed him up,
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Speaker 2: and the criminal case he now faces demands a much.
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Speaker 1: Higher burden of proof than the one he lost.
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Speaker 2: Say, I can't go through everything in that Court of
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Speaker 2: Appeal judgment that goes to Robert smith credibility, because really
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Speaker 2: all that is before the court. If you're interested, you
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Speaker 2: can go read it yourself on the internet. But about
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Speaker 2: this implication that it's Andrew Hasty who did in Robert Smith. No,
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Speaker 2: In fact, the Court of appealed judgment mentions Hasty just
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Speaker 2: six times more than two hundred and fifty pages at
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Speaker 2: once to repeat praise for his honesty. But he did
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Speaker 2: mention at great length of the Essays soldiers. Other soldiers
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Speaker 2: who'd given evidence against Robert Smith in that killing of
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Speaker 2: mentioned of the man with the prosthetic leg and an
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Speaker 2: older man. These soldiers included, well, they comprise the private
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Speaker 2: serving directly under Robert Smith, and six other Essays soldiers
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Speaker 2: who were at that compound, including a sergeant and a corporal.
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Speaker 2: And so I ask, are these soldiers or traitors and
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Speaker 2: cowards too unusually committed Christians? What must these men now feel?
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Speaker 2: Seeing Hasty punished for saying that he'd heard reports of
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Speaker 2: what Robert Smith had done, try to check and later
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Speaker 2: discuss them years later with the head of the regiment,
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Speaker 2: who'd heard them too, and said he was also concerned.
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Speaker 2: See these soldiers, they knew the danger of speaking out.
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Speaker 2: One witness if only his person forty one, was asked
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Speaker 2: why he had not spoken out earlier and told the
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Speaker 2: federal court.
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Speaker 1: Well, he'd heard it.
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Speaker 2: You know, there was an unwritten rule that he said,
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Speaker 2: I would have been seen as someone who wasn't willing
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Speaker 2: to conduct the task of an Essays trooper, and effectively
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Speaker 2: the career had worked sort of so hard for could
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Speaker 2: possibly be over just like that. Well, now he is
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Speaker 2: seeing how Hasty's career is. Political career could also be
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Speaker 2: over just like that for speaking out about alleged war
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Speaker 2: crimes done in our name. And some soldiers may be wondering, well,
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Speaker 2: who's next? Which soldier hasn't now been warned they should
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Speaker 2: keep their mouths shut or else. All of that makes
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Speaker 2: the publication of this story is spearing Hasty a disgrace? No,
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Speaker 2: I no, there won't be. That won't be a popular take,
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Speaker 2: but the truth has the matter. And now, today, of
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Speaker 2: all days, a bombshell involving Paul Breton, who was the
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Speaker 2: new South Wales Supreme Court judge and a major general
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Speaker 2: in the Army Reserve, wrote an explosive report on alleged
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Speaker 2: war crimes in Afghanistan first made that a huge issue.
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Speaker 2: Britain today resigned as head of the Albanizia Governor's new
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Speaker 2: National Anti Corruption Commission after just three years in the job,
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Speaker 2: and that's without having held a single public hearing into
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Speaker 2: corruption in that time. As I said, why is resigning?
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Speaker 2: We believe it's for personal reasons. But for some reason
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Speaker 2: the government was angry about a perceived conflict of interest
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Speaker 2: with his new job because it was refusing to set
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Speaker 2: down from the Army Reserve and was continuing to consult
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Speaker 2: with the Afghanistan War Crimes inquiry. And there's now a
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Speaker 2: separate inquiry into Bretain's supposed conflict of interest. Do you
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Speaker 2: wining me it's a political panel, Michael Kroger, former Victorian
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Speaker 2: Liberal President Steef Conrod formulabor centered in cabinet Minister Michael,
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Speaker 2: What is going on with this National Anti Corruption Commission
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Speaker 2: when the only person so far lost his job because
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Speaker 2: of it is the man in charge.
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Speaker 1: It's the chief.
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Speaker 3: Well, we don't know, we don't know why he resigned.
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Speaker 3: We can draw conclusions, Andrew, but look at it this way.
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Speaker 3: Why was the next setup? Why was the next setup?
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Speaker 3: It was set up, not wholly, but very largely because
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Speaker 3: the Teal campaign in twenty twenty two warned Australia of
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Speaker 3: rampant corruption at a federal level. Every Teal has got
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Speaker 3: elected in twenty two and this whole movement of the
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Speaker 3: Teals ran on two issues, the global warming emergency that
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Speaker 3: was engulfing the world and rampant corruption in Canberra and
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Speaker 3: that's why these people got elected. Three years later, we
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Speaker 3: found no corruption whatsoever. The boss has gone and we
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Speaker 3: can thank the Teals for scaring the leaving daylights out
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Speaker 3: of every investor in this country of a foreign investment
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Speaker 3: in particular, who were led to believe that there was
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Speaker 3: massive corruption at federal levels in this country. And this
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Speaker 3: is not a good place to do business. So I
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Speaker 3: don't know why he's resigned, but what I do know
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Speaker 3: is the damage done by the Teals to the national
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Speaker 3: standing of this country and the integrity of politics at
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Speaker 3: a federal level. It's been very damaging to our national interest.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Steve Conroy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I'd agree with everything Michael said. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I've campaigned against these commissions for years. I opposed him
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Speaker 4: when I was in Parliament. There is just no evidence
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Speaker 4: to support the claims that the Teals are making, or
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Speaker 4: the Greens were making, to Michael's very point. And look,
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Speaker 4: I'm sure at some point in the future they might
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Speaker 4: find a federal MP who is guilty of whatever definition
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Speaker 4: of corruption is used at the time. But having lived
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Speaker 4: it for twenty years, been around it for thirty years,
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Speaker 4: the capacity for federal politicians, ministers whoever, to engage in
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Speaker 4: the sort of conduct you see at a state level
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Speaker 4: around planning or at a council level around planning and
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Speaker 4: a variety of other contracting issues. I mean, I had
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Speaker 4: forty four billion dollars for the National Broadband Network and
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Speaker 4: the only process that I was ever involved in was
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Speaker 4: ticking off the outcome of a tender that the NBN
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Speaker 4: board management had made, simply because I was in charge
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Speaker 4: of the appropriation of the money. So to suggest that
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Speaker 4: I could have or any of my colleagues could actually
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Speaker 4: engage in that sort of corrupt behavior is just fanciful.
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Speaker 4: And I grew with everything Michael just said.
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Speaker 1: Yet the Albanizy government set it up. It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: In fact, the Malaysian multi multi billionaire tycoon once told
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Speaker 2: me he had connections here. He said, if you want
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Speaker 2: a corruption you go to the state level. The FEDS
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Speaker 2: don't have in the position to do anything any favors
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Speaker 2: for you to make your money. But to the overinggacy
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Speaker 2: governments battle with its budget. Michael, you know it's in
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Speaker 2: huge trouble, don't you When, especially when you've got this
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Speaker 2: attack on the capital gains tax discount. It's got not
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Speaker 2: only a young entrepreneur putting up eighteen billboards, the Greek
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Speaker 2: politicians at the Canberra Airport today or denouncing the changes
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Speaker 2: at tax on ambition. You've also got Labor Senator Ellie
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Speaker 2: Whittaker meanwhile using toys to try to explain the changes
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Speaker 2: to voters issues.
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Speaker 5: This is giraffe, and giraffe owns the house that he
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Speaker 5: lives in.
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Speaker 6: He also owns a second house that he rents out
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Speaker 6: to Zephyr.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's someone not waving, but drowning and trying to
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Speaker 2: explain it.
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Speaker 3: Very sophisticated analysis that in that piece of social media,
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Speaker 3: coming again from a senator who has never never worked
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Speaker 3: in the private sector, and you've been a union official
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Speaker 3: or labor party official, et cetera. Look, they are in
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Speaker 3: trouble at a federal level. I mean if you lie
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Speaker 3: so blatantly to the electorate. I mean, if you think
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Speaker 3: of the political crimes that governments commit running the country
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Speaker 3: in the ground, taking us to war, and necessarily running
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Speaker 3: the budget into massive deficits, et cetera, et cetera, blatant
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Speaker 3: lies would have to be at the top of the list,
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Speaker 3: wouldn't they. And given the election could be in a
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Speaker 3: year and a half time, I don't know how Lbuneasy
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Speaker 3: thinks he's not going to get re elected because you know,
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Speaker 3: people think he's a man you can trust. They're going
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Speaker 3: to You're going to get re elected in those recent
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Speaker 3: polls because he got so many seats at the last
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Speaker 3: Actually he can't lose.
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Speaker 1: Enough to lose.
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Speaker 3: But boy, I would have thought he's in serious trouble.
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Speaker 3: He and he's taking charmers down with him. The credibility
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Speaker 3: those two is at rock bottom. Andrew, the elector will
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Speaker 3: ever trust them again. What are they going to say
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Speaker 3: at the next election that anyone's going to take any
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Speaker 3: notice of it and say, oh good, Albow's going to
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Speaker 3: do this, that and the other.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 3: I think he's in serious trouble. And the policies are
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Speaker 3: data as we know. They don't understand the policy, that's all.
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Speaker 3: They're drowning in that. But I think the bigger political
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Speaker 3: problem is the lie was so egregious they'll never recover. Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Stephen, I think you've pointed this out too. However,
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Speaker 2: much trouble the government's in the coalition is in worse.
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Speaker 2: I mean, let me ask you about that stunning seat
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Speaker 2: by seat analysis on the weekend by the Regiburg Group
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Speaker 2: and accent research of what our parliament would look like
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Speaker 2: had an election been held today, one nation winning more
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Speaker 2: than fifty more seats, the Liberals losing most of its own,
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Speaker 2: down to just left with just a dozen or so,
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Speaker 2: and they're the ones in blue. And the National Party
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Speaker 2: wiped out not one lower House seat, and Labor also
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Speaker 2: down as well, clinging onto power by a single seat.
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Speaker 1: How accurate does that analysis seem to you?
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Speaker 4: Well, look, if you look at the farre results and
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Speaker 4: you don't sort of hope that it's just a one off,
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Speaker 4: which is where the Liberals and particularly the Nationals are
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Speaker 4: at the moment. When the Nationals got ten percent of
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Speaker 4: the vote, the Lib's got thirteen, it's twenty three percent
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Speaker 4: of the vote between them. If you look at that,
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Speaker 4: you do the talk to the six thousand people, do
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Speaker 4: the regression analysis that is used. And just in case
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Speaker 4: people want to be critical of red Bridge, this is
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Speaker 4: exactly the same technique that you Gov, who Sky News
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Speaker 4: use as their polster, exactly the same techniques. And you
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Speaker 4: Gov had a pretty good last election as did Redbridge.
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Speaker 4: So if you want to talk about, oh no, it
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Speaker 4: must be wrong with the methodology, you're in the Hope cap.
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Speaker 4: You're hoping they're wrong. But Hope is not a political strategy.
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Speaker 4: Both parties have dangers there. You can see Labor lost
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Speaker 4: a chunk. Labor lost to chunk of seats. So Labor
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Speaker 4: cannot just sit back and go as it's fantastic, look
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Speaker 4: at they're in a mess. Labor can't afford to take
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Speaker 4: that attitude. But there really is an existential crisis or
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Speaker 4: an extinction event for the National Party and an existential
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Speaker 4: crisis for the Liberal Party. We've seen the Teels trying
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Speaker 4: to draw in a few what we call moderate left liberals.
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Speaker 4: We've got the One Nation trying to draw a few
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Speaker 4: of the right wing liberals. I mean, there is a
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Speaker 4: real fundamental crisis facing the Liberal Party right now. An
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Speaker 4: Angus Taylor, to his credit, I've got to say I
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Speaker 4: didn't think he could perform as well, you know, shake
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Speaker 4: off the dull and boring.
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Speaker 8: Look.
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Speaker 4: I think he's doing better than I anticipated in terms
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Speaker 4: of his performances. But the problem is when the punters
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Speaker 4: aren't listening to you, it really doesn't.
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Speaker 1: Make a difference.
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Speaker 4: I mean it's like, if I got to take this
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Speaker 4: opportunity like the Victorian State Labor Party conference, who wants
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Speaker 4: to appine on foreign policy, particularly in the middle is
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Speaker 4: no one gives a stuff what the Victorian Labor Party
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Speaker 4: thinks on foreign policy will be saying never been irrelevant,
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Speaker 4: but more important than And I just make this point
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Speaker 4: the broad left.
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Speaker 1: I've got to get to money.
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Speaker 4: Victorian think think that the Jewish community deep down is
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Speaker 4: what they really think. Deep down they think they deserve it.
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Speaker 4: That's how anti submitted the broad Left has become. They
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Speaker 4: actually think, oh, Jewish community, they really deserve it. For
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Speaker 4: the sins of net and those rat bags in his cabinet,
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Speaker 4: it's just outrageous, outrageous. Sorry to take up the time,
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Speaker 4: but I really wanted to say.
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Speaker 2: No that, no, no, no, no, no, that was a
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Speaker 2: point worth making. Will said indeed, Michael, these polls, I
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Speaker 2: don't think people thinking, oh, something will turn up. It's
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Speaker 2: only going to the elections in two years time. Don't
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Speaker 2: worry so much. They're having a lend of themselves.
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Speaker 3: Oh completely, you know, you just need to look at
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Speaker 3: the Faro result and then you're in the real world.
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Speaker 3: And certainly got fifty percent in twenty twenty two. Now
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Speaker 3: we're on twelve if you don't take notice of that
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Speaker 3: year in cloud Cookerland. Look, Taylor has started very well.
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Speaker 3: He's hit on the number one issue, which is bracket creep.
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Speaker 3: It'll take months for that deceieve into the lectures. What
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Speaker 3: that means people are then going to start realizing this
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Speaker 3: guy is serious about tax policy. I think the economy
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Speaker 3: in Australia, by the way, has fallen off the cliff
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Speaker 3: since the federal budget. I think it's falling off the
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Speaker 3: cliff in many areas. And I think I think you
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Speaker 3: need to see GDP figures worse in the next few months.
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Speaker 3: What does all this mean. It means basically, in the end,
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Speaker 3: they'll return to the party who's number one brand equity
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Speaker 3: is economics and that's the Liberal Party. Is it going
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Speaker 3: to be a huge uptick? It needs to be because
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Speaker 3: we're a long way behind one nation and a long
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Speaker 3: way behind labor.
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Speaker 2: Don't forget to add a couple of interest rate rise
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Speaker 2: is expected before the end of the year.
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Speaker 1: So maybe you're right, maybe you're not. We'll see it
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Speaker 1: won't be one soon.
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Speaker 3: There won't be one soon.
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Speaker 2: No, there won't no no, no, but before December, before Christmas.
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Speaker 2: Michael Krogus, Stephen Connor, thank you very much to you both.
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Speaker 2: After the break, Donald Trump thinks twice about his piece
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Speaker 2: deal with Iran. Plus how the latest anti Israel protesters
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Speaker 2: have conned the world. No, I've shown you many times
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Speaker 2: how often anti Israel protests make claims that are so
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Speaker 2: false or just crazy that of course I don't trust
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Speaker 2: anything they now say. But this latest protest to flotilla
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Speaker 2: about fifty ships trying to break the Israel blockade and
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Speaker 2: supposedly bring food to the supposedly starving people of Gaza,
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Speaker 2: This this takes the cake we had today. Some of
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Speaker 2: the Australian activists that Israel arrested arrived back to Sydney
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Speaker 2: Airport with Green Steputy leader mary In Faruki making all
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Speaker 2: kinds of wild claims again about this week in Israel.
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Speaker 9: Israel has been able to sob brazenly assault and torture
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Speaker 9: these Australian humanitarians because Israel has been given full cover.
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Speaker 2: Israel brazenly tortured these protests as infected denies any such thing.
22:26
Speaker 2: And I'm also highly dubious when I actually see watch this.
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Speaker 2: How many other activists from this very same protest flotilla
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Speaker 2: strolled happily onto planes taking them home, But when they
22:40
Speaker 2: landed half faire Istanbul airport, many suddenly needed stretches and wheelchairs,
22:45
Speaker 2: as if the Israelis had been beating them black and blue,
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Speaker 2: including this German woman in a neck brace who tearily
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Speaker 2: claimed to have been bashed, had bitten by a guard dog.
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Speaker 2: Yet when she finally rot back in Germany in the
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Speaker 2: last leg, seemed to have undergone the most miraculous recovery.
23:05
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the airline food and the circus doesn't end there.
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Speaker 2: The far left Prime Minister of Spain had condemned Israel,
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Speaker 2: as he likes to do, for supposedly this time assaulting
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Speaker 2: the protests Fortilla, which also included Spanish civilians.
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Speaker 8: Spain will always protect its citizens.
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Speaker 10: The second is that we will always defend international law.
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Speaker 2: Oh really, you see some of those Spanish anti Israel
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Speaker 2: protests Is promised to always protect. When they arrived back
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Speaker 2: in Spain at Bilbao Airport on Saturday, they were bashed
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Speaker 2: senseless by the local police there for being a damn
23:49
Speaker 2: nuisance and not obeying orders. Joined me is Australia's top
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Speaker 2: foreign affairs writer Greg Sheridan of The Australian. Greg, I
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Speaker 2: tell you what not in favor of police violence at all.
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Speaker 1: But no, I did not go there.
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Speaker 2: Gregor, Why is so much of the media going along
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Speaker 2: with what's clearly a con job to smear Israel.
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Speaker 7: Well, Andrew, it's great to be with you, and I
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Speaker 7: completely share your skepticism about these stories. I'd note in
24:17
Speaker 7: passing that Itamar Ben Gever, israel security minister, there's got
24:23
Speaker 7: to be one of the most irresponsible and biggest idiots
24:26
Speaker 7: on the planet Earth. Okay, that ludicrous performative mock humiliation
24:34
Speaker 7: he did of the flotilla protesters, where as far as
24:38
Speaker 7: we could see on film, he did them actually no
24:41
Speaker 7: physical harm. But he went through this pantomime in order
24:45
Speaker 7: to buff up his credentials amongst the tiny minority on
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Speaker 7: the ultranationalist fringe of Israeli politics that has given reality
24:55
Speaker 7: TV footage to every anti Semite in the world. And
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Speaker 7: I think Nettaya who should have instantly sacked him from
25:03
Speaker 7: his government. Now, nonetheless, you're absolutely right. Almost every claim
25:09
Speaker 7: that is ever made about Israel turns out to be wrong,
25:13
Speaker 7: turns out to be untrue. And these jokers on the flotilla,
25:18
Speaker 7: you know, my colleague Julie Sego in The Australian said
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Speaker 7: they're not a bunch of beautiful humanitarians as a movement.
25:26
Speaker 7: There are kind of quasi Marxist, quasi Islamists, sort of
25:30
Speaker 7: Schi Guavara meets Hassan Nasralla group. They achieved nothing good,
25:36
Speaker 7: They only besmirch Israel and they contribute to anti Semitism.
25:41
Speaker 7: And of course the media in the West, which predominantly
25:45
Speaker 7: is extremely anti Israel, just loves all this stuff that
25:49
Speaker 7: it's just ready made fake pictures to fit into the
25:53
Speaker 7: pre existing narrative.
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Speaker 1: So true.
25:56
Speaker 2: I said last week that he looked to me like
25:59
Speaker 2: someone who in bullied as a kid, and that it's
26:01
Speaker 2: got some political power, carries on like a complete pork chop,
26:06
Speaker 2: doing Israel no favors whatsoever. But as you also point out,
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Speaker 2: there's no footage of him actually physically abusing anyone who
26:11
Speaker 2: was just yelling and shouting insults and seeing the national
26:14
Speaker 2: anthem and waving a flag, which is stupid but not violent.
26:18
Speaker 1: On this hatred though on.
26:19
Speaker 2: The left of the left for Israel I mean Steve
26:22
Speaker 2: Conroy said it brilliantly earlier on tonight. The Victorian Labor Party,
26:27
Speaker 2: at its annual conference yesterday voted against the motion to
26:32
Speaker 2: condemn Iran's human rights abuses. When it's right now executing
26:37
Speaker 2: young protesters executing them. But it instead voted to denounce
26:42
Speaker 2: Israel for a supposed to apartheid in Palestine. Plus it
26:46
Speaker 2: called for the release of a prominent Palestinian terrorist.
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Speaker 1: What does that tell you.
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Speaker 7: Well, Andrew, I have a piece going into this at
26:55
Speaker 7: some length in Tomorrow's Australian and I must say I
26:58
Speaker 7: would like to pay it public whib to Stephen Conroy.
27:01
Speaker 7: Those were courageous and true remarks. But what this shows
27:05
Speaker 7: us is that the internal culture of the ALP organization
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Speaker 7: is sick and sad and profoundly morally confused in a
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Speaker 7: most convoluted and ideological fashion. Even the worst things alleged
27:22
Speaker 7: against Israel are as nothing compared with the autogenocidal instincts
27:30
Speaker 7: of the Iranian regime, which murders its own citizens in
27:35
Speaker 7: huge numbers, murders the innocent citizens of other countries in
27:40
Speaker 7: very substantial numbers, instructs and leads the most vicious, sadistic,
27:44
Speaker 7: sexualized terrorism on the face of the planet. And the
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Speaker 7: Victorian ALP is such a grotesque institution that it will
27:54
Speaker 7: condemn Israel out of hand, regardless of the evidence or
27:59
Speaker 7: the context, and will not condemn Iran. Now that is
28:03
Speaker 7: just sickening, sad, and that's the culture of the ALP.
28:10
Speaker 7: That's you know, it's infinitely worse than the Parliamentary Party obviously,
28:14
Speaker 7: but nonetheless that's one reason we've got such a bloody
28:16
Speaker 7: awful government.
28:19
Speaker 2: Is it's a bunch of sick puppies, it really is. Honestly,
28:24
Speaker 2: there needs to be a cleansing of the of labor
28:27
Speaker 2: from the body politics of Victoria the next selection or
28:30
Speaker 2: else we should just put these, you know, the shutters
28:34
Speaker 2: up on the state.
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Speaker 1: It's a lost cause. Greg.
28:37
Speaker 2: For days, Donald Trump was saying a piece deal with
28:40
Speaker 2: Iran was just about ready to side.
28:42
Speaker 1: It was imminent. I just hang on a second. Nearly there,
28:45
Speaker 1: nearly there. Today not so much.
28:47
Speaker 2: In fact, Trump posted a crude warning of a bomb
28:50
Speaker 2: about to drop an Iran, and he said if I'm
28:52
Speaker 2: making a deal with Iran, if I make a deal
28:55
Speaker 2: with Iran, it will be a good.
28:56
Speaker 1: And proper one.
28:57
Speaker 2: Sounds to me like he's not getting Iran to agree
29:01
Speaker 2: to both of his bottom line demands, open the straits
29:03
Speaker 2: of amors, none of this, you know, exacting tolls on ships,
29:08
Speaker 2: and he ran mas serrender the uranium its rich, the
29:10
Speaker 2: weapons grade.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd write about this too tomorrow, Andrew, And honestly,
29:15
Speaker 7: I'm not that optimistic, to.
29:16
Speaker 1: Be honest, you're a busy boy. Yeah. Well, it's all
29:19
Speaker 1: in one piece. It's an integrated peace.
29:23
Speaker 7: It's look, I want America and Israel to win this conflict.
29:27
Speaker 7: The world is an infinitely better place if America and
29:30
Speaker 7: Israel defeat Iran decisively.
29:33
Speaker 1: But I'm not very confident. For this reason.
29:35
Speaker 7: I think Trump will eulimately fudge the nuclear stuff.
29:38
Speaker 1: The Iranians will make.
29:39
Speaker 7: Some promise or other and will go into sixty day negotiations.
29:43
Speaker 7: It'll be like the guars of Peace, deeel. But the
29:45
Speaker 7: one thing he can't let them do is continue to
29:49
Speaker 7: control the Strait of Hormuz and impose a toll. Now,
29:54
Speaker 7: if he leaves while they're still doing that, then he
29:58
Speaker 7: has lost the war.
29:59
Speaker 1: It's not a draw. He's lost. Iran has won.
30:01
Speaker 7: They've got more strategic influence than they had before the war.
30:06
Speaker 7: Now Trump is showing friend a random to start up this.
30:12
Speaker 7: Well then and that leaves us screeg.
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Speaker 2: That leaves a screak with only Israel, which no one
30:19
Speaker 2: seems of asked. Israel will you stand by and let
30:22
Speaker 2: this happen without sending fighters over, and that may be
30:26
Speaker 2: the next phase. Greg Sheridan, I urge people to read
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Speaker 2: your piece in the paper tomorrow. Thank you so much
30:32
Speaker 2: for your time. After the break.
30:35
Speaker 1: Labor promised to make Parliament a kind of place for women.
30:38
Speaker 1: Remember that.
30:39
Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to believe what one Labor
30:41
Speaker 2: senator said to a woman in Parliament today. Labor loves
30:50
Speaker 2: boasting that it's the party for women, not like those
30:54
Speaker 2: liberal misogynists. Do you remember how Anthony ive an Easy
30:58
Speaker 2: vow to change the culture of Parliament to make it
31:01
Speaker 2: more women friendly.
31:03
Speaker 5: We need to change the way that politics operates in
31:05
Speaker 5: this country.
31:06
Speaker 1: We need to be more inclusive. Well well, well, have
31:11
Speaker 1: a look at Labor today.
31:14
Speaker 2: Look at the threats and abuse from Labor Senator glenn's
31:17
Speaker 2: sterl aimed at a woman. National Senator Bridget McKenzie.
31:22
Speaker 8: The trucking industry is approving of this government's approach to
31:26
Speaker 8: fuel exercise, the trucky tax or taxes on small business.
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Speaker 1: Let's both have that debate. Any forum, any.
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Speaker 6: Forum will happily that.
31:36
Speaker 8: Let's go to the National Press.
31:37
Speaker 6: Cut you up, You'll cut me up.
31:41
Speaker 4: Metaphorically, yes, I will carve you up as well as
31:45
Speaker 4: should say.
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Speaker 1: Can I come and sit down there, minister?
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Speaker 10: Can we spop and I can educate the ignoramus on
31:50
Speaker 10: the other side of what's going on?
31:54
Speaker 5: You might want to call peop.
31:56
Speaker 8: Also, you've got any dirt for estimates and they all
31:59
Speaker 8: laugh about on podcast.
32:01
Speaker 1: Actually do your homework, senator. You might get enlightened.
32:05
Speaker 8: Talk to all the as so Ignorama's going to carve
32:08
Speaker 8: me up, going to cut me out?
32:09
Speaker 3: Anything else?
32:11
Speaker 2: What a charmer joining me is the panel Scone News
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Speaker 2: contributed Louise robertson Fabulous Scone News hosts Anika to Georgia, Danika,
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Speaker 2: I mean cut you up, carve you up, ignoramus. All
32:25
Speaker 2: said to a woman by a Labor senator in public.
32:30
Speaker 2: This is acceptable in politics as the give and takem
32:32
Speaker 2: of being too much of a precious pedal.
32:34
Speaker 8: No, of course, you're definitely not being a precious pedal.
32:37
Speaker 8: Let me tell you that he should be absolutely disciplined
32:39
Speaker 8: for comments like that, because can you imagine if the
32:42
Speaker 8: shoe was on the other foot, Imagine if it was
32:44
Speaker 8: a coalition politician who set it to a Labor MP.
32:48
Speaker 8: In fact, it writes itself. It would be press conference
32:50
Speaker 8: after press conference. Oh, the coalition has a misogyny problem.
32:53
Speaker 8: You'd have the mean girls Katie Gallaher and Penny Wong
32:56
Speaker 8: out there screaming misogyny, and the ABC would say another
33:00
Speaker 8: example of the Liberal Party's women's problem. I mean, it
33:03
Speaker 8: just rights itself, doesn't it. What a disgusting attack today
33:07
Speaker 8: by Glenn Stel And I noticed as well Andrew he's
33:10
Speaker 8: actually put his social media on private so he can't
33:13
Speaker 8: quite take the heat, but he's very happy to dish
33:16
Speaker 8: out at the same time. But the hypocrisy is absolutely incredible,
33:20
Speaker 8: isn't it. This is from the Labor Party, who are
33:22
Speaker 8: the so called champions of women that beat misogyny, have
33:26
Speaker 8: the largest number of women in their cabinet, and yet
33:29
Speaker 8: I haven't heard from the Prime Minister on this. In fact,
33:32
Speaker 8: I haven't heard from any Labor MP coming out and
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Speaker 8: condemning their colleague today. So the hypocrisy is on display.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Luise, I mean, we just need to
33:42
Speaker 2: give the premise a little bit of time. We to
33:45
Speaker 2: say something. I mean any second now, I'm sure.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, Well I won't hold my breath. But look, Janik's right,
33:52
Speaker 11: he has to. He has to come out and slam
33:55
Speaker 11: the senator for saying this, or else it looks like
33:57
Speaker 11: he condemns it after all this effort he's put into
33:59
Speaker 11: being the party which advocates for the respect of women.
34:03
Speaker 11: And I think it's also interesting that it was only
34:05
Speaker 11: days after, of course, he flatly ruled out any future
34:08
Speaker 11: chance of a royal commission into violence against women and
34:11
Speaker 11: said things like, oh, that costs money, and people are
34:14
Speaker 11: always calling for royal commissions into things, which is absolutely rubbish.
34:18
Speaker 11: So I just wonder whether this really shows what Labour
34:21
Speaker 11: thinks of women. If this senator felt embolded enough to
34:25
Speaker 11: not say what he said to Bridget but also double down,
34:28
Speaker 11: like in some sort of warped way he tried to
34:30
Speaker 11: clarify what he was saying, I'll carve you up. What
34:33
Speaker 11: he should have said then is I'm sorry I misspoke.
34:37
Speaker 11: Then I really didn't mean to make that comment to you,
34:39
Speaker 11: Please forgive me.
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Speaker 1: But he didn't.
34:41
Speaker 11: He doubled down. And I wonder what he's actually saying
34:44
Speaker 11: in haucers, or what the rest of them are saying
34:45
Speaker 11: in caucus if they feel they can say these sort
34:47
Speaker 11: of things to Bridget's.
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Speaker 2: Face in public recorded in front of the TV cameras extraordinary. Meanwhile,
34:57
Speaker 2: at least, at least you know we're all in. We
35:01
Speaker 2: all know that Bridget's a woman. I guess he knows.
35:04
Speaker 1: This is good.
35:05
Speaker 2: This seems to be fertile ground for the Nationals move today.
35:10
Speaker 2: They've decided to put a bill to Parliament calling for
35:14
Speaker 2: the law to be changed back to saying a woman
35:17
Speaker 2: is a.
35:18
Speaker 1: Woman and a man obviously is not.
35:20
Speaker 2: And this is of course Danika after Sal Grover. You
35:24
Speaker 2: know that brave woman who was running a website just
35:27
Speaker 2: for women. She was forced to pay compensation for banning
35:31
Speaker 2: a man identifying as a woman, Hasten.
35:36
Speaker 10: We don't want to take rights away from anyone, but
35:38
Speaker 10: it is now clear that the changes that were made
35:41
Speaker 10: to the Sex Discrimination Actor almost fifteen years ago now
35:45
Speaker 10: have taken right away from people like Sal, from the
35:48
Speaker 10: women of Australia, and that needs to be fixed.
35:52
Speaker 5: Women like myself have been yelling into the ABYSS for
35:56
Speaker 5: years in this country, saying that our rights have been
35:59
Speaker 5: completely destroyed. For far too long, we were told that
36:02
Speaker 5: it was just a culture war. We were called transferbs,
36:06
Speaker 5: we were called bigots, were called turfs, right wing. Anything
36:09
Speaker 5: to try and silence us and get us to go away.
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Speaker 1: No, it's just right, Denika.
36:14
Speaker 2: Most politicians didn't want to come near this issue. Now
36:18
Speaker 2: the Nationals and Liberals both do, which I suspect this
36:22
Speaker 2: is attribute to Pauline Hanson. But do you think the
36:26
Speaker 2: ambanies to government of the Greens will actually allow a
36:28
Speaker 2: debate or will they jump all over it.
36:31
Speaker 8: No, they will not allow a debate. I mean last
36:33
Speaker 8: year Matt Cadavan and Alex Antik tried to introduce a
36:36
Speaker 8: bill into the Senate to restore biological definitions in the
36:40
Speaker 8: Sex Discrimination Act, and Labour used its numbers in the
36:43
Speaker 8: Senate to even stop the bill from being read out.
36:46
Speaker 8: The Minister for Women, Katie Gallahaer at the time said
36:48
Speaker 8: that it would be wrong of the government to cause harm.
36:51
Speaker 8: So no, I don't think so. And let's bear this
36:54
Speaker 8: in mind. This is not a left versus right issue.
36:57
Speaker 8: There are many people on the left equally concerned about
37:00
Speaker 8: the erasure of women. Why because it impacts every single
37:03
Speaker 8: one of us mums, sisters, daughters, female friends. And you
37:09
Speaker 8: dare to challenge it like sal Grover did, and you
37:12
Speaker 8: may just end up getting hauled in front of a court.
37:15
Speaker 1: It was never a.
37:15
Speaker 8: Political issue, but politicians on the left, like the Labor
37:18
Speaker 8: Party as well as Anna Cody, the Sex Discrimination Commissioner,
37:22
Speaker 8: have made it politicized. I mean Anna Cody, remember she
37:25
Speaker 8: said that she doesn't understand the term biological man. But
37:29
Speaker 8: it's a warped trans train that is on this runaway ideology.
37:34
Speaker 8: I really hope that it does get up. And congratulations
37:37
Speaker 8: to the Coalition for finally taking a stand on this.
37:40
Speaker 8: I mean, I do agree. I think it's taken Pauline
37:42
Speaker 8: Hanson to get to this point. But I'm not so
37:45
Speaker 8: sure that the left really care about the protection of women.
37:50
Speaker 1: There's a public care, do you think, Louise.
37:53
Speaker 11: I do, because I think Audrey. Australians know what a
37:56
Speaker 11: woman is and they're proud to advocate for biological women.
38:00
Speaker 11: And although somehow in this day and age, that's become
38:03
Speaker 11: a toxic thing to do, to actually advocate on the
38:06
Speaker 11: rights of women. But you speak to an every day
38:09
Speaker 11: Australian out there and they want spaces to be safe
38:11
Speaker 11: for women. They're not you know, they're not advocating for
38:14
Speaker 11: women's spaces to be invaded by people who are not
38:16
Speaker 11: biological women. In fact, they want the opposite, and particularly
38:19
Speaker 11: if you speak to people have young daughters like myself.
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Speaker 11: We're very concerned about this. We're wondering what's actually coming
38:25
Speaker 11: down the line that you know, young women are made
38:27
Speaker 11: to feel ostracized in this country. It's very unsafe and
38:31
Speaker 11: a very unnerving debate, but it's one we have to
38:34
Speaker 11: have so the ideology doesn't actually overrull common sense.
38:40
Speaker 1: And nearly out of time. But I've got to ask
38:42
Speaker 1: you this.
38:42
Speaker 2: The comedian Andy Lee funny guy is getting married. But
38:47
Speaker 2: I wonder why when the main point of a wedding
38:50
Speaker 2: I thought was to promise to stick together forever. I mean,
38:54
Speaker 2: I just think that's what the whole wedding institution's about,
38:57
Speaker 2: you know, a glue. But Lisa's he won't be saying,
39:01
Speaker 2: you know, till death do us part. I won't be
39:03
Speaker 2: saying the forever word, he says. It's less romantic to
39:07
Speaker 2: say it doesn't have to be forever, but it can
39:09
Speaker 2: be for as long as we're happy. But that's what
39:12
Speaker 2: I think. Well is free to do as he wishes.
39:15
Speaker 2: It's a big world, you know, we all got to
39:17
Speaker 2: make our choices. But what is the point, then, Niaka,
39:20
Speaker 2: of them getting married? If they go into it thinking, well,
39:22
Speaker 2: we can leave as soon.
39:23
Speaker 1: As we like.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I'm all for that sentiment to be happy.
39:26
Speaker 8: But I hope that when you get married, that you
39:29
Speaker 8: do it once in your life and you are there
39:31
Speaker 8: forever in sickness and in health.
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Speaker 7: Isn't that?
39:33
Speaker 8: Isn't that the vow that you take. I actually read
39:36
Speaker 8: that article as Andrew. He said, I don't want her
39:39
Speaker 8: sticking around with me just because she said something on
39:42
Speaker 8: one day in twenty twenty six. Well, he's already giving
39:44
Speaker 8: her and out, he's giving her an escape for it already.
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Speaker 11: Come on, Andy, Absolutely, we're out of time, Louise, but quickly.
39:54
Speaker 1: Your take on that.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think it also says a lot about modern
39:57
Speaker 11: relationships where people are just terrified by obligation and commitment
40:01
Speaker 11: and sort of have to sort of crowe are these
40:04
Speaker 11: strange comments into their narrative before they get married. And
40:07
Speaker 11: I would not be feeling comfortable if I was with
40:09
Speaker 11: Beyonce in this situation. You feel a bit disposable.
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Speaker 1: I think.
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Speaker 2: I think any commitment ceremony is now beyond Andy after that.
40:18
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Louise Robinson Adka Di Georgia. Thank
40:23
Speaker 2: you very much. After the break ex Bossy La Masque
40:27
Speaker 2: helps select a socialist tip to become Britain's next Prime
40:31
Speaker 2: minister as.
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Speaker 1: Early as next month. What on Earth's got into him? Well,
40:39
Speaker 1: here Britain goes again.
40:41
Speaker 2: It's the same refusal by some to name the problem.
40:46
Speaker 2: Here's the left wing Sky News UK, not to be
40:48
Speaker 2: confused with our Sky News.
40:50
Speaker 6: Last Friday, seven men allegedly part of a grooming gang
40:55
Speaker 6: in Norfolk have been charged with rape and child abuse
40:59
Speaker 6: sex offenses.
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Speaker 11: That's according to the Crown Prosecution Service.
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Speaker 1: Seven men were the Presbyterians. Were they born British with
41:08
Speaker 1: a Welsh Maybe? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Join me from London is Talk TV presenter Samara Gill, Samara,
41:15
Speaker 2: great to see you. What is the missing fact the
41:18
Speaker 2: scone News UK failed to report, but which I could
41:21
Speaker 2: have guessed from the names of the alleged defenders that
41:25
Speaker 2: the Crown Prosecution Service did release.
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Speaker 6: It's a really good point, Andrew. Yes, they were asylum
41:33
Speaker 6: seekers that were arrested. I mean, look, this is classic UK.
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Speaker 9: Pardon.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely no assylums.
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Speaker 2: You show me, I know the next thing we're telling
41:51
Speaker 2: me they were Afgahan asylum seekers. Oh please please, Samara
41:57
Speaker 2: but how come that is not part of the years
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Speaker 2: story there. I don't get it.
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Speaker 6: Oh, it's just an insignificant little detail, isn't it. Look
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Speaker 6: I found this story really interesting because it actually gets
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Speaker 6: to the root cause of the grooming gang's issue here,
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Speaker 6: you know, the fear of appearing offensive, which has repeatedly
42:17
Speaker 6: overridden the duty to protect vulnerable girls in this country.
42:21
Speaker 6: So again and again this keeps happening, and the media
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Speaker 6: is perpetuating this narrative. You know, in Britain didn't just
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Speaker 6: failed the victims here, it gas lit the public about
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Speaker 6: what was happened happening with the whole grooming gang scandal.
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Speaker 6: So I think it's really important that you're putting it
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Speaker 6: here because people want transparency from the media. If the
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Speaker 6: facts are the facts, they really should be reported. It
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Speaker 6: really reminds me of the Southport stabbing where a British
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Speaker 6: born national, Axel Ruder Cabana, he killed three girls at
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Speaker 6: a Taylor Swift themed dance concert and there were mass,
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Speaker 6: violent protests and Keir Starmer went and he called half
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Speaker 6: the country racist and far right. And that's because the
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Speaker 6: government actually withheld the true information about Axel Ruta Kabana
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Speaker 6: you know the fact that his parents came from the
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Speaker 6: Rwandan genocide and people were left to make up their
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Speaker 6: own minds, and there's the issue there. So we really
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Speaker 6: need to be transparent and tell the public what is
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Speaker 6: fully going on because people are very media literate these days.
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Speaker 6: Andrew as you know, people want to know what is
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Speaker 6: going on and you start to get issues with community
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Speaker 6: cohesion when you do just try and skim over the
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Speaker 6: fact that seven Afghan national asylum seekers were arrested over
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Speaker 6: grooming gangs.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but then again people might say you should put
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Speaker 2: up the borders. You know has closed the gates, and
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Speaker 2: of course, you know, the political class.
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Speaker 1: Think that might be a little too rude.
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Speaker 2: So much rather have gangs praying on British children than
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Speaker 2: or whatever or girls, then actually do something to stop it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, for heaven's sake, Samara, has Britain learned nothing. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: you've got American billionaire and I think he probably noow
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Speaker 2: is just about a trillionaire. You might have to correct
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Speaker 2: me there. Elon Musk, owner of X he could help
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Speaker 2: Britain get a new socialist prime minister. I don't get
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Speaker 2: what he's doing here. Andy Burner, mayor of Manchester is
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Speaker 2: trying to get elected to Parliament in a by election
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Speaker 2: in Makerfield next month to replace Keir Starmer. The polls
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Speaker 2: show Burnham looked like it looks like he could just
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Speaker 2: squeak past Niger Faraja's Reform Party. It's a first past
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Speaker 2: the post system because Reform has lost seven percent of
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Speaker 2: the vote to the even more right wing Restore Party,
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Speaker 2: which Musk is curiously helping backing with post stuff to
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Speaker 2: post supporting Restort as leader.
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Speaker 1: Rupert Low. Doesn't Musk understand that.
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Speaker 2: It's simply helping a socialist to lead Britain.
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Speaker 6: I don't think he does understand, Andrew, and I think
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Speaker 6: that's where the danger is. You know, Elon Musk accidentally
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Speaker 6: installing a left wing labor prime minister was certainly not
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Speaker 6: on my bingo card for twenty twenty six this year.
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Speaker 6: But it seems like he's really trying to, you know,
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Speaker 6: for context, because a lot of people won't even know
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Speaker 6: who Rupert is. People don't know who Rupert Low is
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Speaker 6: in Britain, let alone Australia. But he used to be
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Speaker 6: in Nigel Farag's party and then they had this really
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Speaker 6: big falling out and Rupert then started his own party
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Speaker 6: basically out of vengeance, and it seems that vengeance is
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Speaker 6: what he's getting. You know, Musk was originally backing Reform,
45:41
Speaker 6: him Farage and Trump met in Mara Lago. There were
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Speaker 6: numbers about funding being thrown around, and then suddenly that
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Speaker 6: all changed, and interestingly slightly because of the grooming gangs issue,
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Speaker 6: where I think Elon felt that Rupert Low was much
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Speaker 6: stronger on grooming gangs than Farage, which is just a
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Speaker 6: strange thing that you can really only ascertain over Twitter.
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Speaker 6: But you're right about this splitting of the vote. You know,
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Speaker 6: it might feel revolutionary for Musk to put all his
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Speaker 6: sort of might behind Restore, but he doesn't get first
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Speaker 6: past the post. He's actually splitting the vote and allowing
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Speaker 6: Labor to win. It's absolutely reckless behavior, and I don't
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Speaker 6: think he's even looked into some of Restora's policies, which
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Speaker 6: are quite ugly in my opinion, you know, things like
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Speaker 6: calling for remigration, some very anti Semitic comments as well,
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Speaker 6: and elements being flung about by members quite freely. You know,
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Speaker 6: Reform it seems to want populist pragmatism, but Restore only
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Speaker 6: seems interested in ideological warfare, and I think that's the issue.
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Speaker 6: The right is now fighting two battles in this country,
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Speaker 6: one against labor and then another against itself, and this
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Speaker 6: can only end badly. This could only end in a
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Speaker 6: left wing PM, much more left wing than Kirstarma, which
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Speaker 6: is Andy Burnham.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. You're very active in social media.
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Speaker 2: Can you just make a post or two to alert
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Speaker 2: Ela Musk Musk to the idiocy of this. Tell him
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Speaker 2: he's got a world historical event that he can influence
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Speaker 2: another one. Samara Gil thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 2: We'll watch your social media posts with interest. Make a difference, Samara,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much. Meanwhile, by the way, talking about Britain,
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Speaker 2: Russia just jammed the GPS signals of an ARIAF jet
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Speaker 2: that was flying home from Estonia with Britain's defense secreer
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Speaker 2: on board. It blocked the signals for the whole three
47:35
Speaker 2: hour flight. That seems extremely aggressive. But to home, just
47:41
Speaker 2: before I go AFL great Neil Danaher. He's died after
47:46
Speaker 2: a battle with motor neur disease. He was sixty five
47:50
Speaker 2: years old.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Danaher played for Essendon career that was crippled by injury,
47:56
Speaker 2: and he coached Melbourne pretty successfully got them to a
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Speaker 2: Grand final. But I tell you what the Grand Final
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Speaker 2: that he won I think was against motorneurone. You know,
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Speaker 2: he was diagnosed with this disease in twenty thirteen. He
48:10
Speaker 2: fought it for an astonishing thirteen years, and he did
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Speaker 2: it with grace, He did it with humor, and he
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Speaker 2: did it always thinking of others. He fought to raise
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Speaker 2: money for charity, even though he was essentially dying himself,
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Speaker 2: a charity that's now raised one hundred and fifteen million
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Speaker 2: dollars into medical research to find a cure that he
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Speaker 2: himself would never know. Kneel Danaher. What a great man.
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Speaker 2: Up next, Charry Marxon. Good night,